I got an as built class 20 of the new batch of Bachmann models it’s a beauty semi gloss green silver buffers as if it just left the Vulcan foundry it’s glides along and looks great even running with my rail freight 37 😊 Cheers Dave Mark 😊😊
Pleasant and enjoyable video to watch Dave. Thanks for covering this variety of subjects. Those Class 20s look superb but really need a smoke generator fitting. A plume of (diesel) smoke on start-up would be the icing on the cake.
I used to just put down plaster bandage before anything else on the layout needed working on, I paint over the mess anyway. But I did always struggle with plastering when there already was detail in situ- duly noted to cut it into shape beforehand next time. It was also absolutely lovely bumping into you at Aviemore- Here's hoping the next time 60103's driver finds his brake in time!
Yes, cutting into shape does help when trying to work it around other stuff that’s fixed down. Was very nice to chat at Aviemore. I hope you enjoyed your trip. You got the best weather to enjoy the scenery. I don’t think that driver will be back on the footplate of FS again lol.
I drove past there on Friday 29 Sept. on a return day trip from Fort William to Balmoral Castle and have to say the Cairngorms National Park is truly stunning, this was off the back of a 8 day holiday throughout Scotland with my family and we absolutely loved it!...need to go visit Strathspey Railway next time, at least we did the Jacobite.
Great video. I think the accurascale "privitisation" 37 cab figures look better than those you reviewed (i have these an they are quite nice). Its probably because they are wearing orange health and safety vests and they 3d print better than the all blue of the old uniforms. Although those on their web site look a lot more consistently blue than those you received.
Hi, that’s interesting. They are decent figures, when I film it’s under a light, so perhaps this Highlights the speckle finish more. In around 3-5 years the quality of these prints will be even better.
Could be my PC speakers but I think the grey 20 sound is better. Years ago they did a tablet catcher version and I thought I read they were bringing one of the new ones out like that but no sign of that now. Sorry you missed out on Flying Scotsman, at least your trip was not from Amsterdam. I saw FlyingScott had. The locomotive has been cleared fit to run on the main again and will do it's scheduled tours so hopefully you can get to see her before she heads back down to he NRM.
They took her out of service and the inspection on the Monday cleared her. Could the staff at aviemore not have been allowed to do that inspection straight after the shunt and send video and photographic evidence to the NRM to confirm that it was ok!??? I feel it was an over reaction as we now are used to in this risk averse health and safety world.
@@DeanPark Everything is a major incident these days. I know it was a hard shunt but think like you they could of carried out an initial investigation. Also NRM staff go with the locomotive so there was someone there who was surely able to check over her. On holiday years ago I saw an 08 in Inverness collide heavily with the rear of the train I had got off while removing a GUV off the rear. The driver injured his nose hitting the control panel, the van leapt in the air and landed down in a ball of rust which is on a photo I took. They looked at the van and 08 and carried on after the driver had said he was OK. This incident was reported to the RAIB who said they would not need to inspect the locomotive themselves so it was nothing to do with them that she was locked away out of sight on your visit
Some people hate the TH-cam library music, some people like it lol. It’s hard to find music that isn’t awful. I like the music, saves me having to talk all the time, when there is nothing really worth saying!
First of all hope you enjoyed your trip out, some great shots captured, pity you couldn’t get onto Scotsman but hopefully the locomotive is fine and she will be out running again soon, I would still like to catch her during her 100th anniversary. Layout overall is looking great and good to see more progress being done on it, keep up the great work. I need to get a couple, of class 20 into my fleet at some point, more specifically I am looking at getting the new tool railfreignt ones which I do think bachmann have released 2 versions in that livery in their new tool suite of these models now, they are overall great looking models and when I get a couple of them I would be up for running them as a double so would like ones in the same livery. Those accurascale figures are alright in my opinion, I would be up for trying some out and seeing if they can be used in other manufacturers locomotives, an overall great update here Dave, keep up the great work.
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed watching. The 20’s are great models. Bachmann have really sone the real locos justice with this model. If you do go for the accurascale figures, I’d be really grateful if you use the link in the description, if you want of course. 🙏 😊
Hi Dave that speckled finish is usually caused by varnish finish, if you give them another spray with some varnish this usually gets rid of the speckling. David
Hi Dave. You’re absolutely right concerning the 20’s Call it overkill, but I have 15 Bachmann Class 20’s they brought out in the DRS livery. Why ? Because like us all, I waited an eternity for these to be released, and once I got 312 in compass, & 306 with the original decals I was blown away with them. They are superb. My layout is obviously DRS based, and they had 15 of these, and I just had to have all 15, renumbered obviously ! Weathered in various states as they were towards the end, they look great Sound has been added to some, but don’t you find they drive you bonkers after a while 😄 Your latest update is great as usual, iv’e used some plaster cloth in my time, and the Aviemore piece you did was great, I really need to get back up there sooner rather than later ! Incidentally, I purchased a couple of Accurascale DRS Class 37’s after you reviewed them in one of your last updates They are incredible, and I believe Accurascale have taken RTR loco’s to another level, especially taking into account as you said in this update, the staggering cost increase of Bachmann’s equivalent Keep the updates coming, they are superb and I look forward to each one
From the filming it looks like Bachmann have changed the leading lights on the class 20 from yellow as the first new tooled BR blue liveried one was fitted to warm white LED's as per the Bachmann class 24.
I noticed that you got the woodland Scenic T pins I found a package of 200 pins for less than the price of the Woodland Scenic ones to let the people with a budget to get them
I can set up consists on the esu ecos I have. Most controllers will have this function. But it’s helpful if both locos are from the same manufacturer and are the same class of loco. That helps running them together a lot easier as they share the same motors, gear boxes etc.
Looking good. Why not include a couple of clips of trains running through the section you've been working on, after the months work is done, to give us more of an idea of how it will look when done, and how it fits in with the rest of the layout? I need a 2nd bachmann 20, although I'll go for an older tooling headcode disc one in blue, preferably with the engineers marking as per the weathered one here, so it both matches the 20217 I already have in terms of finish, but compliments it with having the other type of end. Very nice to see Bon Accord with the Palvan there, and I love the Ivatt 2s
You’ve certainly got a great layout of Dean Park!! You’ve got some wonderful scenery, including the back scene!! As a steam locomotive fanatic, I would love to see a heritage train go on your layout. Any chance?
Hi, thanks for those kind words. I’ve got a model of Flying Scotsman and Union of South Africa and will add to that in the future. I often have Scotsman or union on a rail tour with some maroon coaches. Every layout needs a bit of steam :-)
Another great update Dave. Shame that you and the Scoonie lads missed out on Scotsman at Aviemore. Re the Accurascale crew I was wondering if you’d tried fitting them into one of the newest Bachmann 37s? I’ve got Radio Highland & Loch Lomond which could really do with crew. These figures might be the answer as sourcing painted crew figures doesn’t seem so easy as it once was.
Hi Andy, If bachmann cab seats are true to scale, as I’d expect they are, they will fit without an issue. I’d recommend adding them to your models even with their slight speckled finish…as you dont see that when they are in the cab. If you do order anything from accurascale, can I kindly ask you click on my link in the description of the video? :-) cheers. Dave
Great video as always, was great to see the updates. As someone who is the owner of a single Class 20 (Railfreight Grey previous tooling) and at some point is going to add a second, is it worth buying the new tooling or going for the previous and probably now slightly cheaper version?? Also the updated speakers make a big difference always thought mine was slightly quiet 👍
The new one is a step up in terms of bogies and the electronics. Why not get the new one, with lights…then you can have that one leading in a double headed train, so the trailing one wouldn’t have lights on it anyway!
@@DeanPark I’ll see how the budget runs on through the year I might treat myself 👌. If you have a spare 26 seconds I’d love you to view my short of Accurascale 37043. Tell me what you think 🤔
I admire you're commitment to adding all of these new locos to the collection Dave - do you have an SLW 24 on order out of interest? Layout is looking great as usual. Chris
Thanks for another great video. I wonder what is the reason for the signal at 36:53 being “off” for a train in the opposite direction. Maybe it is a precious prototype for modellers who dont have operating signals!
Hi, the off signal is for a situation where the guard/dispatcher at the end of the train doesn’t have a sight of the signal at the opposite end of the station. If it’s ‘off’ that means the signal is green. When the train is in the other direction it can be switched off.
@@DeanPark Bit of a mis understanding here Dave. mikeryan959 is asking about the semaphore signal for the opposite direction being clear or 'OFF' as it is known. The reason is when a signalbox is closed or switched out the signals for both directions are released by the locking so trains can run under clear signals in both directions on a single line. It is in effect as if the signals belonging to that box do not exist and the release transferred to the next box that is open.
Hi Dave hope you are well i watch all your videos and find them really useful but i do not get the notification on the link any change you an email what you use and were from .I know you show most products in your videos but not all of them in the videos but this would help me out and save me some money lol its mainly the landscaping Thanks Richard
I try when I remember to give details of paint shades, brands, websites and places I’ve bought stuff and used on the videos. I certainly find that a lot of help when I watch a video. I hate it when they will say “paint it grey”….what grey!? Tell me the brand and shade! 😆
In one sence having the Ivatt, ment the loco was working harder than the Scotsman would, so better sound. I visited both Bo Ness & Strathspey Railway's for the first time in late September this year, Strathspey was better for the scenery, but Bo Ness had more for the camera, both very good railways to visit & both were very friendly! for me 20227 had the better sound I use a sound bar plugged into my laptop, main reason either some people don't use mic's or I am going death! (daughter did take me for a hearing test, but she was not pleased when the lady told her I could not pick up on her voice tones 🤣or as she later put it selective hearing)!
Was it easy to double-head the two 20s (with the 2021 railfreight one)? I read somewhere that this years batch used a different decoder to the 2021 batch
Hi Dave. Quick question. I see you have two diamond crossings in your Code 100 layout. Are these Code 100 too? They seem to be very difficult to locate these days. Are they electrofrog or insulfrog? There are now unifrog versions available as well! Would be grateful for your advice. My layout is Code 100. Cheers. Chris
Hi these are code 100. I believe all of the diamond crossings were insulfrog. I wasn’t aware of the uni ones. To be honest these crossing can be a pain! Sone manufacturers wheels seem to bridge the tiny insulated section of these. Hornby coach wheels especially. I had to add clear varnish to the rails at the frogs for additional protection. The uni frog would hopefully address this design.
Hi, it’s woodland scenics product so you’ll get it at most model shops who stock bachmann/woodland scenics stuff. Glad you enjoy what I do with the layout. I love making it and sharing it. Cheers Dave
I don’t hate Charlie. He has made comments directed towards me. These were unjustified and I don’t know why this was done. I don’t seek confrontation. It’s only a hobby for me. I let him do his thing. I don’t comment on him. It’s not a competition for me. Sadly not every one has the same attitude.
If a landscape is man made, Ie embankments and cuttings it is smoother, as it’s been formed. If it’s not, then you’ll have more humps and bumps. Study the type you want before you make. But at the end of it all, it’s all pretend. :-)
Enjoyed your video Dave and liked thanks for sharing DD.
Great 'how to' Dave!!! Awesome loco's those Class 20'ies!! Many thanks for sharing! Cheers Onno.
Way better than Saturday night tv - thanks Dave👍
Some would say that isn’t difficult 😆
Outstanding layout since lockdown Iv found some amazing modellers.
Great video Dave. Particularly enjoyed seeing your plaster cloth work as I am shortly going to be doing some more of that. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Thanks Roy. Glad it’s handy video for you.
Those new class 20s are both gorgeous.
Yeah bachmann have done a cracking job on them!
I got an as built class 20 of the new batch of Bachmann models it’s a beauty semi gloss green silver buffers as if it just left the Vulcan foundry it’s glides along and looks great even running with my rail freight 37 😊
Cheers Dave
Mark 😊😊
Brilliant Dave, always an enjoyable watch
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it
Great job, been a while since I had a layout and I'm impressed by this one.
Cheers. Thanks for watching. Dave
Good planning and first-class workmanship.
Cheers. Thanks for your kind words. Dave
Dave , What I like about you is your so methodical just like myself , You're a superb modeller great stuff
Hi,
I’m of the mindset, that If a jobs worth doing, it’s worth (trying) to do it right :-)
Glad I’m not the only one 😆
Cheers
Dave
Hi David great video 📹 from you Sir and hope to see you at Cathcart show in Glasgow at Pollokshaws
Crackin Video Mate. Catch up with you soon.
Andy.
Cheers Andy.
Pleasant and enjoyable video to watch Dave. Thanks for covering this variety of subjects.
Those Class 20s look superb but really need a smoke generator fitting. A plume of (diesel) smoke on start-up would be the icing on the cake.
Now that would be something!
excellent stuff Dave.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Dave
Wonderful video
I used to just put down plaster bandage before anything else on the layout needed working on, I paint over the mess anyway. But I did always struggle with plastering when there already was detail in situ- duly noted to cut it into shape beforehand next time.
It was also absolutely lovely bumping into you at Aviemore- Here's hoping the next time 60103's driver finds his brake in time!
Yes, cutting into shape does help when trying to work it around other stuff that’s fixed down.
Was very nice to chat at Aviemore. I hope you enjoyed your trip. You got the best weather to enjoy the scenery.
I don’t think that driver will be back on the footplate of FS again lol.
Great video again Dave. Loved to wee Aviemore again (was there last year being hauled by the Black 5)
I was hoping for the black 5. But maybe next time.
Another great update from dean park
Cheers Dean :-)
I drove past there on Friday 29 Sept. on a return day trip from Fort William to Balmoral Castle and have to say the Cairngorms National Park is truly stunning, this was off the back of a 8 day holiday throughout Scotland with my family and we absolutely loved it!...need to go visit Strathspey Railway next time, at least we did the Jacobite.
It’s a lovely part of the world. I always enjoy a good run on the strathspey. I’d love to do the Jacobite one day. Cheers.
Great update thanks.👍
Cheers, thanks for watching.
Great video.
I think the accurascale "privitisation" 37 cab figures look better than those you reviewed (i have these an they are quite nice). Its probably because they are wearing orange health and safety vests and they 3d print better than the all blue of the old uniforms. Although those on their web site look a lot more consistently blue than those you received.
Hi, that’s interesting. They are decent figures, when I film it’s under a light, so perhaps this Highlights the speckle finish more.
In around 3-5 years the quality of these prints will be even better.
Could be my PC speakers but I think the grey 20 sound is better. Years ago they did a tablet catcher version and I thought I read they were bringing one of the new ones out like that but no sign of that now. Sorry you missed out on Flying Scotsman, at least your trip was not from Amsterdam. I saw FlyingScott had. The locomotive has been cleared fit to run on the main again and will do it's scheduled tours so hopefully you can get to see her before she heads back down to he NRM.
They took her out of service and the inspection on the Monday cleared her. Could the staff at aviemore not have been allowed to do that inspection straight after the shunt and send video and photographic evidence to the NRM to confirm that it was ok!???
I feel it was an over reaction as we now are used to in this risk averse health and safety world.
@@DeanPark Everything is a major incident these days. I know it was a hard shunt but think like you they could of carried out an initial investigation. Also NRM staff go with the locomotive so there was someone there who was surely able to check over her. On holiday years ago I saw an 08 in Inverness collide heavily with the rear of the train I had got off while removing a GUV off the rear. The driver injured his nose hitting the control panel, the van leapt in the air and landed down in a ball of rust which is on a photo I took. They looked at the van and 08 and carried on after the driver had said he was OK. This incident was reported to the RAIB who said they would not need to inspect the locomotive themselves so it was nothing to do with them that she was locked away out of sight on your visit
Love the music while you were doing the curved bank, missed it from EJ and your previous videos!
Some people hate the TH-cam library music, some people like it lol. It’s hard to find music that isn’t awful.
I like the music, saves me having to talk all the time, when there is nothing really worth saying!
@@DeanPark It's good elevator music for the background.
First of all hope you enjoyed your trip out, some great shots captured, pity you couldn’t get onto Scotsman but hopefully the locomotive is fine and she will be out running again soon, I would still like to catch her during her 100th anniversary.
Layout overall is looking great and good to see more progress being done on it, keep up the great work.
I need to get a couple, of class 20 into my fleet at some point, more specifically I am looking at getting the new tool railfreignt ones which I do think bachmann have released 2 versions in that livery in their new tool suite of these models now, they are overall great looking models and when I get a couple of them I would be up for running them as a double so would like ones in the same livery.
Those accurascale figures are alright in my opinion, I would be up for trying some out and seeing if they can be used in other manufacturers locomotives, an overall great update here Dave, keep up the great work.
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed watching. The 20’s are great models. Bachmann have really sone the real locos justice with this model.
If you do go for the accurascale figures, I’d be really grateful if you use the link in the description, if you want of course. 🙏 😊
Excellent vid as always if I can get my layout even a quarter of yours I'd be happy yours is amazing
Cheers. Just take your time and plan it all out…and above All, enjoy doing it. :-)
Hi Dave that speckled finish is usually caused by varnish finish, if you give them another spray with some varnish this usually gets rid of the speckling.
David
That’s interesting. Thanks. I’ll maybe give that a go!….I’m ordering more :-) cheers. Dave
Hi Dave.
You’re absolutely right concerning the 20’s
Call it overkill, but I have 15 Bachmann Class 20’s they brought out in the DRS livery. Why ? Because like us all, I waited an eternity for these to be released, and once I got 312 in compass, & 306 with the original decals I was blown away with them. They are superb. My layout is obviously DRS based, and they had 15 of these, and I just had to have all 15, renumbered obviously !
Weathered in various states as they were towards the end, they look great
Sound has been added to some, but don’t you find they drive you bonkers after a while 😄
Your latest update is great as usual, iv’e used some plaster cloth in my time, and the Aviemore piece you did was great, I really need to get back up there sooner rather than later ! Incidentally, I purchased a couple of Accurascale DRS Class 37’s after you reviewed them in one of your last updates
They are incredible, and I believe Accurascale have taken RTR loco’s to another level, especially taking into account as you said in this update, the staggering cost increase of Bachmann’s equivalent
Keep the updates coming, they are superb and I look forward to each one
From the filming it looks like Bachmann have changed the leading lights on the class 20 from yellow as the first new tooled BR blue liveried one was fitted to warm white LED's as per the Bachmann class 24.
Those BM Class 20's look great - have a BR green - DCC with sound thanks to Richard at Roads & Rails
The new green 20 they have just released is a stunner. I am soooo tempted to get one.
I noticed that you got the woodland Scenic T pins I found a package of 200 pins for less than the price of the Woodland Scenic ones to let the people with a budget to get them
Great video. Could you make a video on how you got the 2 class 20 to run correctly in particular in pairs ie both noses together. Thanks
I can set up consists on the esu ecos I have. Most controllers will have this function. But it’s helpful if both locos are from the same manufacturer and are the same class of loco. That helps running them together a lot easier as they share the same motors, gear boxes etc.
Looking good. Why not include a couple of clips of trains running through the section you've been working on, after the months work is done, to give us more of an idea of how it will look when done, and how it fits in with the rest of the layout?
I need a 2nd bachmann 20, although I'll go for an older tooling headcode disc one in blue, preferably with the engineers marking as per the weathered one here, so it both matches the 20217 I already have in terms of finish, but compliments it with having the other type of end.
Very nice to see Bon Accord with the Palvan there, and I love the Ivatt 2s
16:43 - ah, I see you still have some of that particular shade of brown left Mr Watson! ;-)
I have many shades of brown lol
You’ve certainly got a great layout of Dean Park!! You’ve got some wonderful scenery, including the back scene!! As a steam locomotive fanatic, I would love to see a heritage train go on your layout. Any chance?
Hi, thanks for those kind words.
I’ve got a model of Flying Scotsman and Union of South Africa and will add to that in the future.
I often have Scotsman or union on a rail tour with some maroon coaches. Every layout needs a bit of steam :-)
Another great update Dave. Shame that you and the Scoonie lads missed out on Scotsman at Aviemore. Re the Accurascale crew I was wondering if you’d tried fitting them into one of the newest Bachmann 37s? I’ve got Radio Highland & Loch Lomond which could really do with crew. These figures might be the answer as sourcing painted crew figures doesn’t seem so easy as it once was.
Hi Andy,
If bachmann cab seats are true to scale, as I’d expect they are, they will fit without an issue.
I’d recommend adding them to your models even with their slight speckled finish…as you dont see that when they are in the cab.
If you do order anything from accurascale, can I kindly ask you click on my link in the description of the video? :-) cheers. Dave
@@DeanPark Many thanks for that Dave and I’ll be sure to click on your link. All the best, Andy
Great video as always, was great to see the updates.
As someone who is the owner of a single Class 20 (Railfreight Grey previous tooling) and at some point is going to add a second, is it worth buying the new tooling or going for the previous and probably now slightly cheaper version?? Also the updated speakers make a big difference always thought mine was slightly quiet 👍
The new one is a step up in terms of bogies and the electronics.
Why not get the new one, with lights…then you can have that one leading in a double headed train, so the trailing one wouldn’t have lights on it anyway!
@@DeanPark I’ll see how the budget runs on through the year I might treat myself 👌.
If you have a spare 26 seconds I’d love you to view my short of Accurascale 37043. Tell me what you think 🤔
I admire you're commitment to adding all of these new locos to the collection Dave - do you have an SLW 24 on order out of interest? Layout is looking great as usual. Chris
Hi, I have their Scottish class 25 from SLW on order. I’m looking forward to it. :-)
Thanks for another great video. I wonder what is the reason for the signal at 36:53 being “off” for a train in the opposite direction. Maybe it is a precious prototype for modellers who dont have operating signals!
Hi, the off signal is for a situation where the guard/dispatcher at the end of the train doesn’t have a sight of the signal at the opposite end of the station.
If it’s ‘off’ that means the signal is green.
When the train is in the other direction it can be switched off.
@@DeanPark Bit of a mis understanding here Dave. mikeryan959 is asking about the semaphore signal for the opposite direction being clear or 'OFF' as it is known. The reason is when a signalbox is closed or switched out the signals for both directions are released by the locking so trains can run under clear signals in both directions on a single line. It is in effect as if the signals belonging to that box do not exist and the release transferred to the next box that is open.
Hi Dave hope you are well i watch all your videos and find them really useful but i do not get the notification on the link any change you an email what you use and were from .I know you show most products in your videos but not all of them in the videos but this would help me out and save me some money lol its mainly the landscaping
Thanks Richard
I try when I remember to give details of paint shades, brands, websites and places I’ve bought stuff and used on the videos. I certainly find that a lot of help when I watch a video. I hate it when they will say “paint it grey”….what grey!? Tell me the brand and shade! 😆
In one sence having the Ivatt, ment the loco was working harder than the Scotsman would, so better sound. I visited both Bo Ness & Strathspey Railway's for the first time in late September this year, Strathspey was better for the scenery, but Bo Ness had more for the camera, both very good railways to visit & both were very friendly! for me 20227 had the better sound I use a sound bar plugged into my laptop, main reason either some people don't use mic's or I am going death! (daughter did take me for a hearing test, but she was not pleased when the lady told her I could not pick up on her voice tones 🤣or as she later put it selective hearing)!
Yeah the ivatt was working harder and sound great.
Was it easy to double-head the two 20s (with the 2021 railfreight one)? I read somewhere that this years batch used a different decoder to the 2021 batch
Yeah they ran in sync. That was a 2021 and 2023 release together. :-)
Hi Dave. Quick question. I see you have two diamond crossings in your Code 100 layout. Are these Code 100 too? They seem to be very difficult to locate these days. Are they electrofrog or insulfrog? There are now unifrog versions available as well! Would be grateful for your advice. My layout is Code 100. Cheers. Chris
Hi these are code 100. I believe all of the diamond crossings were insulfrog.
I wasn’t aware of the uni ones.
To be honest these crossing can be a pain! Sone manufacturers wheels seem to bridge the tiny insulated section of these. Hornby coach wheels especially. I had to add clear varnish to the rails at the frogs for additional protection.
The uni frog would hopefully address this design.
As I thought. Thank you for that confirmation. Chris@@DeanPark
Where did you get the Foam Putty? your layout continues to be terrific.
Hi, it’s woodland scenics product so you’ll get it at most model shops who stock bachmann/woodland scenics stuff.
Glad you enjoy what I do with the layout. I love making it and sharing it.
Cheers
Dave
Thanks Dave @@DeanPark
Charlie Bishop uses Hobbycraft poster paint - £1 per bottle.
Aye but they hate each other 😂
I don’t hate Charlie.
He has made comments directed towards me. These were unjustified and I don’t know why this was done. I don’t seek confrontation. It’s only a hobby for me.
I let him do his thing. I don’t comment on him.
It’s not a competition for me. Sadly not every one has the same attitude.
I don’t watch Charlie. But thanks for pointing out a cheap alternative.
Supposing you want your landscape to have lumps and bumps to make it look like a real landscape rather than a pretend one.
Just add some lumps. Easy.
If a landscape is man made, Ie embankments and cuttings it is smoother, as it’s been formed.
If it’s not, then you’ll have more humps and bumps.
Study the type you want before you make.
But at the end of it all, it’s all pretend. :-)
styrafoam ?? isn't that a musical instrument ?? don't mention rolf !!
I hope my landscapes don’t start making music if that’s the case lol