Why I Chose Prime Over Mathews- PSE- Elite- Bows
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- We went to a couple of stores and luckily we found a great bow to swap mine out with. We were at The Archery Den. These guys are awesome. If you live close to Middle TN, give them a call.
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Love you bubba keep em coming 🤌
Great info man really love the video
Thank you Roman. Love you too man.
@@doninion_outdoors Thank you man.
Your enthusiasm for archery is contagious, keep spreading the love for the sport!
Thank you!
This video made me feel good. I walked into my local archery shop with no knowledge of compound bows. Walked out with the prime rvx 34. I love it. I have nothing to compare it to. But you did. Thanks.
Did you get it at the Archery Den? Or somewhere else? And thanks for the comment. I still have to go pay the last 700 dollars to pick it up. I can't wait. Which color did you get? I got the duo fuze kings camo.
@@SouthernDrawTN
I got it at Coyote Creek archery here in NH. They only had one color at the time. It was gray. I do love that camo your getting. When I went back 2 weeks later they had a cool flat OD green. Wish they had that when I was there.
@@josephrickard7973 Yea, they only had black, and the fuse color I got. Now i'm looking at "kingscamo" gear trying to match it all up lol. It NEVER ENDS!!!! haha.
Coyote Creek...great shop! Josh is the man.
If I ever got to NH, i'll stop by :P@@NMGagne
You can’t beat the way Prime bows hold on target, in my opinion. Awesome video my man
Thanks bro, i'm honestly grateful I found Prime. Was having a rough time until then after getting rid of my original bear bow. But found a new home.
Awesome video! Glad you found the one for you!
Me too!
I've never considered Prime bows before, but now I'm intrigued.
Yea they are nice now. Thank you!
Your dedication to archery is inspiring, keep up the great work.
Thank you.
Your video convinced me to subscribe, looking forward to more content!
Thank you, seriously.
I appreciate your honesty in discussing both the strengths and weaknesses of each bow.
Thank you for the feedback.
Your reviews are always thorough and unbiased, keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Great video man those prime bows are super nice
Thank you Bro.
Prime Bows are Awesome!
I can hear Michael and Willie at the Den!!
Your passion for archery really shines through in your videos.
Hey Thank you!
we've been shooting prime bows for years - and he was right - it's a sleeper bow for sure
I really liked the guy that helped me out down there.
Thanks for putting this together
Well thank you for watching and commenting, seriously.
Well done man. I literally went through the same process. The bow choose me!!
facts!! Thanks man.
I currently have an SS34 and I love it.
I like Diamond bows which are made by Bowtech, just never shot one.
Awesome video, Danielson 😊
Thank you moma.
Prime bows seem to be gaining popularity, I might have to give them a try.
They are definately gaining traction from my understanding. thank you!
If you want feel, and steady aim, they are awesome, if your sold on absolute speed they run a bit slower.
@@the_sharp_carpenter Yup, it's always a trade off. They aren't noticibly slower or anything. They are still scootin.
@@SouthernDrawTN oh yeah, some people just get hung up on a few fps at the Chrono
I just don't see how you can ignore feel completely over speed. But that's just me. @@the_sharp_carpenter
That Elite bow incident was unexpected, thanks for sharing your experience.
Yea, it could of blown up on me. Thanks!
@@SouthernDrawTNI went to sportsmans warehouse near me and had one blow up luckily I wasn't hurt but the techs back it out to far for the last guy who shot it and idk what happened but only had a bruise on my left forearm.. that's when I started just going to legit archery shops lol
@@Garydasnaill Yeah, most bows have 10 pounds adjustment, and that tends to be over 10 turns of the limb bolts. Elite has 4 turns which usually isn't even 10 pounds.
The pocket design does kinda prevent overly unwinding the limb bolts though.
@@Rikcey Yeah it was a elite envision and after I looked at the limb screw and it was backed way out because bottom limb was attached the top limb bolt ripped the threads because it was barely holding on it wasn't the bow fault But isn't the first time box store's I've had 4 bows blow up and heard many people mostly because the tech do not know what they are doing. Reason I just go to archery shops after that last one for buying bows so I know they are set correctly but I do all my work at home now since I learned a couple years ago and got a bow press and started building my own arrows etc saves money
@@Garydasnaill Good thing you work on your own equipment now, no one cares about it like you do.
Appreciate this video, I'm currently looking at this exact bow, but I'm thinking about a Bowtech SS 32 as well. Hard decision.
Yea, Well I know the Prime is amazing for draw cycle if that's something you have high on your list. Thank you.
I shot bear for years finally went to Lancaster archery to get my first flsgship and shot all the new bows and prime was nice was my second choice but then I shot the Hoyt and I was in love and was my favorite! drawing to me felt 10lbs lighter I usually shoot 55lbs but I got the Hoyt alpha x from what I found since 2019 Hoyt had improved and built butter snooth cams and I shoot 62lbs right now with ease and it is smoking fast I'm shooting a 550 grain arrow 200grain tip included for high foc blew right threw a deers shoulder and out the other side it didn't care and I can hold all day! Glad you found something you like enjoy it man!
I would like to try hoyt but not sure if we have any Hoyt dealers around middle Tn. Hopefully not for a few years though. I want to grow with this one first and shoot leagues and stuff. Thanks man and im glad you found the Alpha x.
You can't go wrong with Hoyt. And honestly man, most people can't go wrong with PSE. It just seems like you don't see many videos of people not liking the bows they got which is why I wanted to share this with others. Who knows, maybe it will keep someone out of a 800 dollars bind in a year or so :P And that is screaming fast. these new cams are nuts.
I've been a loyal Mathews user for years, but this Prime bow might change my mind.
That elite noise was the limb pockets. They were adjusted without loosening the locks. No big deal but they will pop like that and its not a nice sound lol.
Wish I would of known that then. Probably would of actually gave it a fair shot. I loved the price point of that bow and that TAN color it has on it. That did freak me out, but you may be right, and thanks for the sub BTW.
This is what I was gonna say. Was probably the shop he was at. I have a 33" lift, rx8, rx7 ultra, and a new elite kairos, and it's definitely a contender for my favorite bow to shoot. Back wall is rock solid, and stupid dead after the shot.
Y'all are prob right, I'm a noob and was scared to try it again lol. I don't want to die if I don't have to lol. @@WolfinWolvesClothing713
I came to say the same thing.
You guys may be right. If that's the case, I wish I would of shot it. Just was too nervous at the time. Too late now anyways. Picked up the RVX today @@dirtjunkie2749
That lift is so much nicer, I've shot all the prime bows for the past few years and I just don't think they feel that much different.
:) Welp, to each their own I guess. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@SouthernDrawTN yea, I think you sold yourself short not shooting the 33. I love mine.
Your video convinced me to give Prime bows a second look.
Thank you, they are great shooting bows no doubt.
Prime makes a very nice bow, had a Prime Black 5 a few years ago and it was very accurate.
I may get to go get mine tomorrow if I get paid. Can't wait man.
I’m still shooting my Prime Black 5 and I’m still loving it! The way it holds for me along with the speeds I get with a 30.5 inch draw, I don’t see a need to change bows yet. Great shooting bows for sure
I've been eyeing that Prime bow for a while now, might have to pull the trigger after seeing this.
Let me know if you do, thankyou.
Grip on the prime is unreal.
That's a fact. I need to stop squeezin it so hard lol. @@tylerdzugan9596
I know exactly where that is. Been there a couple of times, subbed
Yea they rock. Tyty
I may go get that same bow this weekend
It's a good one.
Your video helped me narrow down my choices for a new bow, thanks!
Thats Awesome! Thank you!
Shot elite ethos at archery shop and hated it. Shot a prime revx 34 and loved it. Also shot pse fortis and loved it. Trying to decide
Yea, the Prime bows shoot sooo good imo. Because of the balance and the less aggressive cams, it just feels amazing to me. When its time for a new bow, it will take something amazing to pull me away from Prime. I also like their factory grip. Good luck man, hope you find your number 1.
@SouthernDrawTN I went with the fortis 33 with e2 cam. I went back and forth drawing each bow 1 shot at a time. Talking to my pro shop asking questions and finally going with pse
I've had similar experiences with bows. I shot a couple Bears (Legion and Status EKO), then tried a Prime Black 1, then a Bowtech SR6. I then went on a used bow buying/selling/trading spree as well as shooting new bows at the shops and tried a VXR, V3X33, Phase 4, Mach 1, Levitate, Rx7 Ultra, VTM, Omnia, Carbon One, Reckoning 35, and SS34. Of all of those the RX7 Ultra, Omnia, and SS34 felt the best to me, but none felt any better than my SR6. It just fits and holds so well, and has plenty of speed at a 60 pound draw.
It's all about finding the bow that fits YOU the best!
Yea i agree with that man. I've not shot as many as you. But I just knew this bow wasn't for me.
I've had my eye on that exact model, thanks for the review!
Thank you!
It's refreshing to see someone giving honest feedback instead of just promoting a particular brand.
Appreciate that.
Prime really surprised me, ended up grabbing a Revex 6 as a target/hunting hybrid after the pro shop guys talked me into trying it (My last 5 bows have been Mathews) the draw cycle was very smooth but what sold me was how well it held
Man me too. i haven't held it longer then 30 seconds. but I did hold it exactly 30 seconds off cam, and that's one of the things that suprised me. I'm guessing because of their grip. Solid bow bro. The thing is, there aren't alot of Prime bow vids either. So i plan to upload more once I get it Friday. Can't Wait!!!
I can't believe that envision broke like that. That's dangerous
Yea I'm still not sure what happened
It didn't break, was most likely the limb pockets popping from the shop adjusting draw weight without loosening the locks. Or they didn't have the draw length mods seated right etc...
Great review Jeff. Love the HHA.
2 things that bother me.
1. No first axis adjustment.
2. Just bought the RYZ not even a year ago and always wish it had 3 indicators. Now here is the X3 and I have to buy an entire new bar just to get that 3rd indicator. Wish they made a part to allow the RYZ to run a 3rd indicator
I'm shooting the BlackGold Whitetail Pro in this video. They look similar from the side. Thank you for watching. Really appreciate it.
Awesome review. HHA no doubt makes amazing sights. 2 things that bother me.
1. No first axis adjustment
2. I bought the HHA RYZ last year. Now they made the X3. Sucks I have to buy a new sight to run the 3 indicators to match my UV scope.
Hey @chadpooeiger9279, I've never tried one. I'm currently runnign the Blackgold Whitetail Pro sight and it's awesome.
If it’s a worse dump than the lift 29 then that’s crazy. I shot a lift 29 at my local pro shop at 70lb 28.5 draw and it had a mean hump right before the back wall. I was shooting it and the Hoyt alpha X together.
Oh bro, it's not even close to the Lift. I found the lift to be alright. The PSE s2 Cams would have about 5xs the dump of a normal speed bow. It's nuts and annoying to draw over and over. But if you get used to that, good luck holding it if you are waiting on your hunting shot. Just wasn't for me. But you def wouldn't like it. Just to be clear, its not the EVO, just the S2 cams on the evo. I head other cams are great, but I wouldn't know. Thank you for your comment.
Bowtech makes a smooth drawing bow
Yea I know man, my local bow shop that sells bowtech, wouldn't of took the trade in though.
I'm in Smyrna...been wanting to get to the den
I live off Joe B Jackson. We are 15 minutes from each other. The people up there are awesome man. The cool thing is they will work with you. So if you have a decent bow, within the past couple years, they are willing to allow you trade in value. A lot of shops wont do that. Nice to see some Middle TN people in here. Thansk for the comment.
You can get smoother cams of pse bows. I think the e2 pr ec2 as well. or sometimg loke that are smoother cams and with the elite, it was the the draw stops hitting the limbs, im assuming. But you would have to put it on the limb stop and not the cables. But who knows. I shoot a bowtech ss34. And i love it!!
I tried to do that man. I wanted to do the EC2 cams for comfort. PSE told my local bow shop that it couldn't be done since i had the s2 cams. At that point I was just done with it and frustrated.
You know man, there were a few things I didn't get to try Bowtech being at the top of the list, along with hoyt and darton (out of curiousity). The issue really was money, the bow shop I went to was the only bow shop locally that would take the EVO as a trade. So I just stuck with them, but honestly man, I've been shooting this prime and it just seems to get better each day. I'm so grateful. It's awful having a bow that doesn't mesh with you when you want to keep getting better.
thanks man.
1400?! Just bought the bottomland Mathews 29.5 at my shop for 1250
Primes are cool man!
What shop is that?
After taxes too? If so, I need to know where you got that from for future reference lol. This is a smaller shop though, hence a little higher prices. But you can't beat their service. They are awesome. And I'm willing to pay a few more dollars for better service. Love this spot.
The background scenery in your video is beautiful, where was it filmed?
that was in Franklin TN, The archery den. Someones killed a ton of animals lol. Thank you!
That elite bow almost blew up!
It does appear that way.
Love your video style
Thank you Hammadhim.
I tried out the prime Ronan and it was a nice bow
Haven't shot one but heard others say they were good.
I'm not a brand loyalist, but I always want my riser to be as close to a target bow as a hunting bow can get. So I shoot a Bowtech ss34 & hopefully an sx80 in the near future.
Yea, never made it to a bowtech. Fell in love with the Prime. Just went and picked it up yesterday lol.
Next time I would also try Bowtech
Lol, my bowtech shop, doesn't accept trade ins, thats the only reason i didn't.
Did the same last year. Sold my mission switch, and wanted a flag ship, shot every bow they had, crazy enough I fell in love with a left over Prime inline 5. The discount I got it for may it about 45% cheaper than the revex and I couldn't find a big enough difference to get the revex over it. Prime has such a great bow!
Yea they make such nasty bows. At least this one I can vouch for. I'm a PRIME boy moving forward. i will shoot other bows to try them still, but man, I just don't feel the stability on anything else like this one. It's a tank.
As an avid bowhunter, I appreciate the thorough review.
Thank you for even watching.
I love Archery Den
Yea they are awesome, thanks for the comment.
Have you ever heard of Timberwolf archery?
I wish you would have gone and shot a Bowtech SS, they are fast and smooth, Prime is just smooth and they lie about their FPS speeds via IBO.
I'm new into archery and shot mathews..hoyt..bear..pse..darton...elite and prime. Inwent with prime ronan for price, draw cycle and how comfortable it felt in hand. Don't know much of anything else.
Bro I didn't even know about the Ronan until I got home and started looking Prime stuff up. I would of at least tried it out. Did you like the Darton bows? I've been curious to try one, just don't have any dealers in my area.
I shot the darton consequence. Draw cycle felt weird to me. Most people i talk to and tell them i run a prime. They like what????
@SouthernDrawTN
You can't go wrong with any Prime Bow
G5 owns Prime and everything they make is good, great pick
Yea, they are a good company.
Except their quivers. Hot trash, don't waste the $
That Elite bow malfunction looked scary, glad you're okay.
Thank you!
I love the camaraderie among fellow archers in the comments section.
It's amazing and unexptected tbh. Thank you.
My Omnia made that noise too, wound up being a combination of the string stop and draw mod being loose. I shot a Revex 4 on accident and it wound up hitching a ride home with me. Sold the Omnia the next day. Cant find a bow thats more enjoyable, comfortable, stable, and the draw is just BUTTER. People sleep on Prime, I know I did. Im not loyal to ANY brand, I shoot what feels the best to me.
Yea that freaked me out man. Thought I was about to get my neck chopped off, lol. Yea I heard those Revex's from last year is what kind of started turning people on to Prime bows in general. The RVX series from this year isn't much different from what I understand. I probably could of just bought a used REVEX bow from last year, but at this point, I just wanted to be done with it all, and start practicing. Heck, 5 months in TN and whitetail season opens. I need practice lol. Ty for your comment.
Prime making great bows as other manufacturers but nothing cant compare with new Mathews Lift and Title.They are just another level for every other brand
I can't disagree, they definately make great bows. Have you shot the rvx?
You made a good decision
Yea I think so too.
I've never heard of that archery shop before, but it looks like a great place.
Yea they are great!! Wouldn't of ever picked Prime if not for them.
Finally! Someone picks something other than Mathews over and over
Lol, thanks man.
You should have shot the lift33. That 29.5 looked tiny and not a good string angle for you.
I’m sure the prime felt way better being a 32” ATA.
Also I’ve had zero issues shooting a 33” ata in a treestand or a popup.
Enjoy your Prime tho. I’m sure it’s an awesome bow!
That's actually a really good point lol. I'll maked sure to do that next time i'm up there just because. Thank you.
Lol, you shooting the bow on the floor was something I'd do, subbed
That was embarrassin lol.
Nice video!!
I want a prime but no dealers near me.
Thanks man, I wish they had a better way to buy flagship bows honestly.
That elite bow though
About killed me!!
If you would of bought the pse xf with ec2 cam. You would of loved it. The S2 amd E2 cam are harsh drawing. Hard to hold back. I have a pse evl 32 that has EC cam and it draw like butter and hold great.
That seems to be what most are saying. I did try to replace them with the EC2 cams and PSE said we couldn't for whatever reason.
I went into my local shop dead set on walking out with a Mathews or Hoyt and the tech had me shoot the rvx 34 and I was sold instantly
lol, that's sooo awesome. Yea I'm trying to get more people to check them out. They deserve more eyes. Amazing bows man.
Nice video man, keep it up.
Thank you.
What happened with the XF is you ordered the wrong cams. You got the E2 cam, which is the fastest cam, but the draw cycle is trash. The good cam for that bow is the EC, which is the evolve cam.
I got the S2 cams, which is the fastest cams. But yea either, way, the crappiest draw cycle. I tried getting the EC2 cams put ont heir but when my bow shop called PSE they told him they didn't recomend it, so idk. But before this, I thought I had a bow with a rough draw cycle "bear Resurgence Dual Cam" and boy was I wrong lol.
@SouthernDrawTN isn't S2 the short draw version of the E2? I was under the impression that that's the case. I run a Prime ION and I'm real happy with it. The old primes like mine are Fire and hard to find 2nd hand. The newer bears look good, so do the Elites even tho their heavy compared to my ion.
Bro, that's the whole reason I ordered the damn things. But for whatever reason, S2 are the "speedcams" and roughest to shoot for sure. I've had about 10 people tell me this after I bought the bow. PJ on Lancaster, I thought said exactly what you are saying so idk man. All I know is, they are extremely rough. Yea I can't wait to go pick my Prime up. I will be trying Elite again, that wasn't a fair comparison. I came from a Bear Resurgence, and it was a good bow. Their customer service is kind of bad though. Thanks for your comments. @@arodriguez2707
You have a nice form, how long have you shot?
Are you serious or busting my balls? If you are serious, I appreciate it. If not, I still appreciate the humor :P. About 1.5 years.
I prefer a longer ATA bow. I shot a 41" ATA Mathews Signature for 17 seasons. I could rest my chin on it when sitting in a tree stand. Still miss that a bit. LOL! I have no brand loyalty. I shot all brands when I bought my Prime Impact in 2013. 35" ATA, 6.25" brace height, 340 fps, & 4.5 pounds. Today's longer axle Prime bows have about the same specs. Spec-wise bows have changed very little in over 10 years. I don't see myself buying another bow in my lifetime. Longer ATA just feels more stable, less string angle, & smoother to me. There a reason target bow have longer ATA. I have never seen the need for short bow, unless you want to hunt from a low ground blind. I hope you enjoy your new Prime. Lifetime free cables/string is a nice perk, too.
Yea its crazy because when i shot the 33 inch PSE evo, i never noticed a big difference from my old 30 inch bow. I guess it varies from person to person. I also do in fact hunt ground blinds and thickets in the south.
How tall are you if you dont mind me asking? 41 ATA seems like such a large bow, but i've never shot anything over 33 so take that with a grain of salt. Glad you found the bow for you, but really curious how tall you are vs. the 41 ATA bow lol. Thank you for your comment. God Bless.
What archery shop was that looks like this one in middle tn
Archery den
Everyone always talks about the hump, that's in the draw cycle for a reason man.
I just didn't like it. Thank you for your comment.
Nice video bro
TY.
Let him pick what he wants, I don't get it
they need to fix that one before letting someone else draw it.
Yea they locked it up.
I love my S2 PSE Fortis 33 personally.
Isnt the fortis a smoother version of the evo? I thought i heard that somewhere. Whats your draw length?
@@DanielParker615 I don't think it is smoother, riser is practically the same as the EVO XF. And the specs Identical. They added a new grip, picatinny rails , EZ 220 and I think they added IMS and C.O.R to the back.
that's all that matters, thanks for your comment.
@@Rikceygotcha, what is your draw length?
@@DanielParker615 sorry, 28,5, and, as per WA regulations, 60#. Went with S2 for performance. If we were allowed 70 I bet I'd be shooting the EC2 cams.
What song is that in the background?
Some Random song I liked, its just a royalty free song, nothing fancy.
Prime makes a good bow man.
Agreed.
Yea they do.
Where are you located in Middle Tn
Yup, around that area.
I prefer Missions bows, I've shot them for years
What was wrong with the Lift bow?
Nothing specifically bro, the Prime just felt like me like I said in the video.
Great form. New Sub :)
HAAHA, Thanks mane!!!
You need to make more videos and build your catalog
We plan on it, thank you.
Keep up the good work, not a bad video
Thank you, means more then you know.
How in the hell does a bow with a sticker mess up?
Idk man, I dunno. Thank you for comment.
Its called let off..
PSE Evo 34, hands down.
What's called let off. I had 90 percent let off. Are you saying less would of felt better?
Good video my dude
Thank you
Where are y’all located. And can you work on strother??
4404 Franklin S Ct, Franklin, TN 37064, I don't actually work there, they are just my preferred archery shop. Wont find a better one in my opinion. they can work on anything you need. If it requires parts to adjust weight and DL, they may have to order it but they are mainly Prime, Mathews and PSE, bear dealers. If you live close go talk to them, they'll get you goin. Thanks!
Let the man get his bow
If Prime had the marketing behind them that Mathews and Hoyt do, they would/could take much more market share. For whatever reason, Prime chooses not to spend heavily on marketing. Prime needs a Chris Bee or a John Dudley and they would take huge market share quickly.
Yea bro, that's the truth. I've only been shooting bows for a couple years. Man, i'd never even heard of a PRIME bow. Maybe once or twice, but would of not been in a list of bows i'd want to look at for sure.
I started shooting Prime about 2019. Right away fell in love with the center grip. I was OK with the dual cam stuff, but I knew it was not ideal. When they switched to a "typical" cam with the Inline, it became an incredible platform. The Inline got a bad rap due to litigation, but my son shoots an Inline 3 lights out (usually in the 290s Vegas scoring with no stabilizer). The REVEX/RVX (same shooting experience) is even better with the current cam. @@SouthernDrawTN
Was that sportsman, the first spot
It was yup
Mathews over anything!
I know i know bro. It was close, trust me.
What happened to that Elite bow?
We never figured it out. I just moved on to the next my friend and was glad I didn't get hurt.
Your shooting skills are impressive, do you compete professionally?
Lol, not even close, thank you for the uplifting comment though haha.
Has anyone ever mentioned it looks like you draw full throttle and crash into the back wall violently! Hard to tell from video but that may be something to look at.
You mean, I just draw very aggressively? I never felt like that, until I started shooting that PSE, just feels like it dumps hard, or do you mean on all the bows?
@@SouthernDrawTN Yes. It looks to me like that’s why you about cracked the cams off that Elite. It’s something I myself have to really watch when I go from my 62# longbow to my 60# 85% let-off Mathews V3- I’ll load up back tension out of habit, and about rip the string off the bow! Those who you shot with in-person should be able to see this occur easily. It’s hard to tell on video. But it could also be why you have so much bow arm wobble after full draw. when you come back like that and smash off the back wall, you’ll resonate the bow so badly it’ll take 5-6+ seconds to settle it down again, if you can at all. Hope that helps
@@SouthernDrawTN I believe the Envision has adjustable mods where you loosen and adjust the DL and back wall feel too. I would bet money it was a set screw not tightened or seated in that cam, and when you crashed the wall it seated it real fast! You didn’t break anything I’m guessing.
@@d123avek1 I think you are right man. I also was shooting 72 pounds all last year and backed this down to 62 because i didn't like the way it felt. Probably why i'm drawing so dang hard. I really appreciate the feedback man.
I hope so because it was hung back up on the shelf lol@@d123avek1