Who else is glad Honda still makes a simple, bare bones model like this TRX420FM1? ...And what would you guys like to see Honda change next on this platform? Thank you again for all of the support by watching these videos, hitting the "like" button and sharing etc so I can continue making these videos! I really appreciate it guys...
I mean…. To my knowledge Honda is the only major ATV manufacturer still making manual foot shift atvs. I know automatics are far more reliable now than they were say 20 years ago….. but a manual foot shift atv will literally last a lifetime for someone who simply uses it for utilitarian purposes. My dad is still running a manual 98 big bear. Pristine condition . Runs like a top.
I mean…. To my knowledge Honda is the only major ATV manufacturer still making manual foot shift atvs. I know automatics are far more reliable now than they were say 20 years ago….. but a manual foot shift atv will literally last a lifetime for someone who simply uses it for utilitarian purposes. My dad is still running a manual 98 big bear. Pristine condition . Runs like a top.
Yes, and in my opinion, worthless without it. If you get one, definitely get one that’s 4x4. If you don’t need it, don’t use it, but when you do, it will be there 😎
If Honda made a new adult sport quad, I’d come into the dealer and buy that and a new rancher or foreman. Really tempted to but Yamaha all around since they are the only ones who are smart enough to still make sport quads. Even if it’s only the 400x which I want for trails, that works for a lot of people. Come on Honda! Please don’t make the loyal buyers switch.
I hear ya man, there's still a market for them! It's not what it used to be, thanks to so many moving over to SxS units but there's still people out there buying sport quads. Heck, even if they just copy and pasted what they had without doing any new R&D and throw fuel-injection at them, they would sell. Again, I know it wouldn't be big numbers but make a small run of them and let people continue to buy Honda sport quads and get or keep them on a Honda, instead of going another route. I'm going to be in the market to pick up a used TRX450R / TRX400X within the next 6 months or so and deep down, I keep hoping they'll give me a reason to hold off and hop on something new, even though my wallet wouldn't like that as much as the used alternative lol!
Nice, congrats on the new toy! Yeah... it's a shame she doesn't come with a 12v as standard like the rest of them but that's there way of making the price difference between it and the Foreman make sense. Thankfully it's a super cheap upgrade though, even with OEM parts.
While the IRS is more comfortable offroad i like having the solid rear axle. Switching it to 2WD gives it a nice sporty ride with minimal roll. Kind of like having the best of both.
I got it 2014 that puppy runs like a tank. I don't know where they get there carry and Tow weights from but I regularly carry a man on the front a man on the back and a man on the seat and have no problem at all I also pull logs out of the Bush and I've often told trailers that were an excess £1500 up hills. This 420 of mine has never failed to perform
Woahh i watched the entire video to take notes on how you feature a 4 wheeler in a video. Now i want get an ATV even though i have no use for one. Really like the way you present all these bikes and atvs man. 👍👍
I was going to settle for the FM6N because that's all there was but found a Rubicon 520 and am glad I didnt settle for this one even though its an excellent machine I'm happy with the IRS I had plenty 2001 style trx250's over the years so the upgrade is nice
Oh yeah, IRS will 100% spoil you! They both have their pros and cons depending on what you'll be using it for but there's no denying that your back will "thank you" after a long day of trail riding with an IRS setup when compared to a SRA model.
@@HondaProKevin That's for sure I use it for a little yard work and snow plowing but mostly pleasure riding , I'm not really into the deep mud but enjoy having the ability to get though it when it comes up on a trail , And I'm not looking for speed as much as I am reliability so getting a Honda was a no brainer , I got the foot shift in red but added the deluxe package dont think I have seen another one yet like it online or in person with that combo
I’d like to see a better storage option under the front rack. Make it to where the front rack can swing up to one side while being held down by a rubber strap or a nut and bolt combo. Otherwise a pretty sweet machine
I like your thinking on the front rack being able to pivot like that! It'd definitely help with opening up ideas for storage there but then on the downside, they'd have to find a way to rearrange everything that's under there now. Honda needs to get creative though and figure out some more storage options as the Rancher hasn't had anything but the spot in the rear for decades and then they added that tiny spot up front which is a step in the right direction but still... It still baffles me as to why they haven't thrown the Foreman / Rubicon side pocket storage on the fender over to the Rancher but if I was a betting man, I'd say it's to have another reason for people to upgrade over to those models.
Heck yeah, congrats on the new Foreman! I don't know if I'd say "2022" but the new Pioneer announcement is right around the corner, the date is still the same that I've mentioned in past videos as we haven't had any other delays this time around... yet lol!
Bought a 23’ model FM1. Love it so far. Seems peppier than my 08 rancher. That has 24,000 miles on it tho. I use them and don’t necessarily take care of them. Just good reliable machines on the farm. I own a BRP 570. I can’t say that for that machine. I can tell you all the repairs that the 570 requires 🙄
Improve power steering, more ground clearance, better suspension, electrical accessory addition for plug and play, independent rear for all models with manual foot shift for us that hate the electric shift. Looks like everything needs an up date just as you have stated.
I haven’t been too impressed with my 2022 Rancher as far as quality control. I had two missing clips, a missing grommet for the plastic and a bolt was cross threaded in the front when I was taking it apart to install the winch.
Ahh, hate to hear that man! I feel your pain on the cross threaded bolt, ran into one on my 2022 Grom and was ready to throw the bike across the garage lol. There's nothing more aggravating than running into stuff like that on a brand new machine. If you don't mind me asking, which grommet and clips were you missing? If I was a betting man, I'd wager the missing grommet was for the little black plastic cover on the front where you get to the coolant reservoir.
@@HondaProKevin ha, you know what that makes two grommets. I actually forgot about that one. When my son was looking it over he said dad this lid won’t stay closed and sure enough, the grommet was missing. But the grommet I remember was when I was taking the plastic off for running the wires for the winch and one of the rubber grommets on the right side simply wasn’t there. I was like wow this side came loose much easier, and that’s why. But yes for the price you pay for these one would expect all of the parts would be there.
Oh yeah, they definitely add some weight and alter how the machine handles when compared to stock so people really need to take that into account when throwing stuff like this on their ATVs. The upside though, these won't beat you to death like some of the wild mud tires when you're on smooth terrain lol! Appreciate you checking out the video and throwing up a comment too Mike ;)
I can not believe those wheels! Amazing! Tire technology for 4 wheelers must have seriously come a long way to be as big as the ones on the bike featured as well as light enough to look like awesome full size off road truck tires....but on a 420 ATV. This looks like a simple but nice all around bike for just about anybody. Middle of the road. That said I would like to see locking differential. I just don't trust the limited slip front difs after having a 350 Big Bear. As well the seat looks a little small or short I should say. I've never had any issue with a solid rear axle either when it comes to off road stuff. The lockable or attachable storage features are a great plus. Nice review! Thank you!
You're spot on bud, they've definitely come a long ways! It's wild to look back at how much things have changed in this industry over the decades. I'm right there with you, personally, I prefer to have a true locking diff option as I'm going to really push where it can go but most people that ride these things won't do anything hardcore enough to need more than a limited slip setup. I wish the Rancher had a locker but then that takes away the reason for people to upgrade and spend more money with Honda on the Foreman or Rubicon so I can understand why they haven't thrown one on these - yet. Spot on with the seat too, the FA5 / FA6 seat should be standard on all Ranchers but with the Rubicon's padding because it's something special when compared to the others. Never thought I'd be at a point in my life where seats make a big difference lol but they do! Thank you! These take a lot of time to put together so I really appreciate the kind words...
@@HondaProKevin Wow! Thank you for your response! Yeah I remember getting ATV magazine in the mail and it was easily the best thing to look forward to as a kid next to the motorcycle and car magazines I managed to save up for. I remember when Polaris came out with their Sportsman 500 and it was groundbreaking but then Arctic Cat had a 500 but wasn't as well received. Then...came the Yamaha Grizzly! We had a friend of the family who was an old bachelor from Ontario bring his bike down to us rednecks in the Maritimes and boy us kids thought it was just the beezneez. Anywho, I haven't kept up with the 4wheeler world since I was 15 or 16. Since dad got a 2018 Foreman I've startled to check in from time to time. I really like the little side by sides from Honda with the little truck dump. As well, I remember the Honda Odyssey from the 80s but I was too young and now theyre essentially making those but with of course one extra seat and in some cases 3 extra. It's clear you put a lot of work into your videos and glad I found your channel! All the best!
It's funny that Honda is putting the cool colors like the blue and tan on models that nobody wants. I'll never have the ES DCT stuff. That's just more that can go wrong and it's not needed at all. They don't even have those colors on the 4x4 EPS foot shift models. The dealership near me has a red basic 4x4 Foreman and they want $9500 for it. This is nuts.
I had a 2017 rancher 420 and it was great little machine the one thing that I hated it didn’t like the cold -24 below zero one day l I towed it to go ice fish and several times there after and she wouldn’t start until the sun would hit it and warmed up the wheeler even had the jets replaced by Honda dealer!!!!!
You sure can, here are two videoing showing this model with a winch: - th-cam.com/video/o82cNFyPyaE/w-d-xo.html - th-cam.com/video/8_LdezwjLx4/w-d-xo.html
@@HondaProKevin I am now riding a 2012 Honda 250 Recon without the 4X4 option. I added an aftermarket winch to it. I only needed the winch once. My son got stuck in a big snow bank and had to drag it out. It fell through the snow into a small ditch that he didn't know was there. I don't think the 4X4 option would have gotten it out of that one. That goodness for the winch. My son is currently purchasing this model. He should have it within the next couple of week. We go camping together a long in the high mountains. Now he won't have to be riding behind me on mine.
way too much stuff has been added = an over complicated machine that was once a better alternative. fuel injected? sounds like a cool idea - we shall see how long that lasts. I can fix a carb but cant fix a computer controlled device. (shucks) its new technology. ;) I got one & do like the footshift - it works would like a recoil starter as well, But its not AT or ES - roll starting this manual Rancher might be possible. :) actually I did like the recoil starter on the 2005 grizzly 660 [surprised it started so easy, but its AT and too complicated with a belt that needs replaced. had a belt on Snow machines which were good, but learned to carry a spare for bush repairs. (beats walking) so bought a new 22 rancher 420 and it seems to be built well.
Loved my 2023 420 until it burned lol wasn’t the bikes, fault it would go threw anything my buddy’s big can-am’s would with less effort she’s a mud hog for sure
Who else is glad Honda still makes a simple, bare bones model like this TRX420FM1? ...And what would you guys like to see Honda change next on this platform?
Thank you again for all of the support by watching these videos, hitting the "like" button and sharing etc so I can continue making these videos! I really appreciate it guys...
I mean…. To my knowledge Honda is the only major ATV manufacturer still making manual foot shift atvs. I know automatics are far more reliable now than they were say 20 years ago….. but a manual foot shift atv will literally last a lifetime for someone who simply uses it for utilitarian purposes. My dad is still running a manual 98 big bear. Pristine condition . Runs like a top.
I mean…. To my knowledge Honda is the only major ATV manufacturer still making manual foot shift atvs. I know automatics are far more reliable now than they were say 20 years ago….. but a manual foot shift atv will literally last a lifetime for someone who simply uses it for utilitarian purposes. My dad is still running a manual 98 big bear. Pristine condition . Runs like a top.
I’m glad. Love it. Wouldn’t change it other than a couple 12v outlets
A little more power and a front differential lock
Nothing that's what we like!
I have a 2017. Got it as a leftover and has almost every option except power steering. Things an absolute tank
I have a 2010 and it's still going great 12 years later love it!
I have 2 Rancher’s, a 14 & a 16. Both with Automatic transmission or thumb shift. Bulletproof!!! Absolutely love them!!!
I've got a '16 with almost 11,000 miles and is just now starting to smoke a little.
Do they have 4x4 and if so is it a necessity?
Yes, and in my opinion, worthless without it. If you get one, definitely get one that’s 4x4. If you don’t need it, don’t use it, but when you do, it will be there 😎
So good, I bought it! It’s a Honda… doesn’t need any changes!
I rode my first on today. I had a blast anf got to check out my land and didnt have to walk. At 60 its time to ride.
If Honda made a new adult sport quad, I’d come into the dealer and buy that and a new rancher or foreman. Really tempted to but Yamaha all around since they are the only ones who are smart enough to still make sport quads. Even if it’s only the 400x which I want for trails, that works for a lot of people. Come on Honda! Please don’t make the loyal buyers switch.
I hear ya man, there's still a market for them! It's not what it used to be, thanks to so many moving over to SxS units but there's still people out there buying sport quads. Heck, even if they just copy and pasted what they had without doing any new R&D and throw fuel-injection at them, they would sell. Again, I know it wouldn't be big numbers but make a small run of them and let people continue to buy Honda sport quads and get or keep them on a Honda, instead of going another route.
I'm going to be in the market to pick up a used TRX450R / TRX400X within the next 6 months or so and deep down, I keep hoping they'll give me a reason to hold off and hop on something new, even though my wallet wouldn't like that as much as the used alternative lol!
I just bought a brand new 22. Love it. Wish it came standard with 12 volt plug. But I'll be adding one
Nice, congrats on the new toy!
Yeah... it's a shame she doesn't come with a 12v as standard like the rest of them but that's there way of making the price difference between it and the Foreman make sense. Thankfully it's a super cheap upgrade though, even with OEM parts.
While the IRS is more comfortable offroad i like having the solid rear axle. Switching it to 2WD gives it a nice sporty ride with minimal roll. Kind of like having the best of both.
I got it 2014 that puppy runs like a tank. I don't know where they get there carry and Tow weights from but I regularly carry a man on the front a man on the back and a man on the seat and have no problem at all I also pull logs out of the Bush and I've often told trailers that were an excess £1500 up hills. This 420 of mine has never failed to perform
I've got the 2024 Honda Rancher 420 4x4 es green
Love my (TRX420FA2) It's a blast to ride!!!
Woahh i watched the entire video to take notes on how you feature a 4 wheeler in a video. Now i want get an ATV even though i have no use for one.
Really like the way you present all these bikes and atvs man. 👍👍
I was going to settle for the FM6N because that's all there was but found a Rubicon 520 and am glad I didnt settle for this one even though its an excellent machine I'm happy with the IRS I had plenty 2001 style trx250's over the years so the upgrade is nice
Oh yeah, IRS will 100% spoil you! They both have their pros and cons depending on what you'll be using it for but there's no denying that your back will "thank you" after a long day of trail riding with an IRS setup when compared to a SRA model.
@@HondaProKevin That's for sure I use it for a little yard work and snow plowing but mostly pleasure riding , I'm not really into the deep mud but enjoy having the ability to get though it when it comes up on a trail , And I'm not looking for speed as much as I am reliability so getting a Honda was a no brainer , I got the foot shift in red but added the deluxe package dont think I have seen another one yet like it online or in person with that combo
I’d like to see a better storage option under the front rack. Make it to where the front rack can swing up to one side while being held down by a rubber strap or a nut and bolt combo. Otherwise a pretty sweet machine
I like your thinking on the front rack being able to pivot like that! It'd definitely help with opening up ideas for storage there but then on the downside, they'd have to find a way to rearrange everything that's under there now. Honda needs to get creative though and figure out some more storage options as the Rancher hasn't had anything but the spot in the rear for decades and then they added that tiny spot up front which is a step in the right direction but still... It still baffles me as to why they haven't thrown the Foreman / Rubicon side pocket storage on the fender over to the Rancher but if I was a betting man, I'd say it's to have another reason for people to upgrade over to those models.
I bought the 2022 Foreman 4x4. Good little unit! Plows snow like a dream! Any updates on the 2022 Pioneer 1000-5?
Heck yeah, congrats on the new Foreman!
I don't know if I'd say "2022" but the new Pioneer announcement is right around the corner, the date is still the same that I've mentioned in past videos as we haven't had any other delays this time around... yet lol!
Bought a 23’ model FM1. Love it so far. Seems peppier than my 08 rancher. That has 24,000 miles on it tho. I use them and don’t necessarily take care of them. Just good reliable machines on the farm. I own a BRP 570. I can’t say that for that machine. I can tell you all the repairs that the 570 requires 🙄
Those wheels and tires are wicked.
Improve power steering, more ground clearance, better suspension, electrical accessory addition for plug and play, independent rear for all models with manual foot shift for us that hate the electric shift. Looks like everything needs an up date just as you have stated.
I haven’t been too impressed with my 2022 Rancher as far as quality control. I had two missing clips, a missing grommet for the plastic and a bolt was cross threaded in the front when I was taking it apart to install the winch.
Ahh, hate to hear that man! I feel your pain on the cross threaded bolt, ran into one on my 2022 Grom and was ready to throw the bike across the garage lol. There's nothing more aggravating than running into stuff like that on a brand new machine.
If you don't mind me asking, which grommet and clips were you missing? If I was a betting man, I'd wager the missing grommet was for the little black plastic cover on the front where you get to the coolant reservoir.
@@HondaProKevin ha, you know what that makes two grommets. I actually forgot about that one. When my son was looking it over he said dad this lid won’t stay closed and sure enough, the grommet was missing.
But the grommet I remember was when I was taking the plastic off for running the wires for the winch and one of the rubber grommets on the right side simply wasn’t there. I was like wow this side came loose much easier, and that’s why. But yes for the price you pay for these one would expect all of the parts would be there.
I can't find a new Rubicon 500 DCT with power steering anywhere. Please make a video going over stock and when it looks like it'll improve
The mag wheels looks awesome
the wheels and tires dont look right it changes the speedometer reads and adds weight which makes it slower jmo
Oh yeah, they definitely add some weight and alter how the machine handles when compared to stock so people really need to take that into account when throwing stuff like this on their ATVs. The upside though, these won't beat you to death like some of the wild mud tires when you're on smooth terrain lol!
Appreciate you checking out the video and throwing up a comment too Mike ;)
@@HondaProKevin np great info
keep up the good work
I almost got excited for new wheels and tires darn there not stock
I just bought a 2022 rancher. What offset and everything are these rims ? I Wanna order them !
I can not believe those wheels! Amazing! Tire technology for 4 wheelers must have seriously come a long way to be as big as the ones on the bike featured as well as light enough to look like awesome full size off road truck tires....but on a 420 ATV. This looks like a simple but nice all around bike for just about anybody. Middle of the road. That said I would like to see locking differential. I just don't trust the limited slip front difs after having a 350 Big Bear. As well the seat looks a little small or short I should say. I've never had any issue with a solid rear axle either when it comes to off road stuff. The lockable or attachable storage features are a great plus. Nice review! Thank you!
You're spot on bud, they've definitely come a long ways! It's wild to look back at how much things have changed in this industry over the decades.
I'm right there with you, personally, I prefer to have a true locking diff option as I'm going to really push where it can go but most people that ride these things won't do anything hardcore enough to need more than a limited slip setup. I wish the Rancher had a locker but then that takes away the reason for people to upgrade and spend more money with Honda on the Foreman or Rubicon so I can understand why they haven't thrown one on these - yet. Spot on with the seat too, the FA5 / FA6 seat should be standard on all Ranchers but with the Rubicon's padding because it's something special when compared to the others. Never thought I'd be at a point in my life where seats make a big difference lol but they do!
Thank you! These take a lot of time to put together so I really appreciate the kind words...
@@HondaProKevin Wow! Thank you for your response! Yeah I remember getting ATV magazine in the mail and it was easily the best thing to look forward to as a kid next to the motorcycle and car magazines I managed to save up for. I remember when Polaris came out with their Sportsman 500 and it was groundbreaking but then Arctic Cat had a 500 but wasn't as well received. Then...came the Yamaha Grizzly! We had a friend of the family who was an old bachelor from Ontario bring his bike down to us rednecks in the Maritimes and boy us kids thought it was just the beezneez. Anywho, I haven't kept up with the 4wheeler world since I was 15 or 16. Since dad got a 2018 Foreman I've startled to check in from time to time. I really like the little side by sides from Honda with the little truck dump. As well, I remember the Honda Odyssey from the 80s but I was too young and now theyre essentially making those but with of course one extra seat and in some cases 3 extra. It's clear you put a lot of work into your videos and glad I found your channel! All the best!
It's funny that Honda is putting the cool colors like the blue and tan on models that nobody wants. I'll never have the ES DCT stuff. That's just more that can go wrong and it's not needed at all. They don't even have those colors on the 4x4 EPS foot shift models. The dealership near me has a red basic 4x4 Foreman and they want $9500 for it. This is nuts.
Nicer wheels and tires option is better, one of the best upgrade they could do . Actually should be a standard instead option
Will Honda or polaris ever build anything to compete with canam in the gncc!?
I had a 2017 rancher 420 and it was great little machine the one thing that I hated it didn’t like the cold -24 below zero one day l I towed it to go ice fish and several times there after and she wouldn’t start until the sun would hit it and warmed up the wheeler even had the jets replaced by Honda dealer!!!!!
What size tires are the aftermarket tires on that red 520 Foreman at the beginning of the video??
Bring back the trikes!
I'm sure we're in the minority here but I'm 100% with ya on bringing back some ATC action!
Thanks 👌 😊 ❤
I want a 6th gear that's it that's all
Do you actually need 4X4 on the rancher? I don’t want to pay the extra money for it.
Can you add a winch to this model?
You sure can, here are two videoing showing this model with a winch:
- th-cam.com/video/o82cNFyPyaE/w-d-xo.html
- th-cam.com/video/8_LdezwjLx4/w-d-xo.html
@@HondaProKevin I am now riding a 2012 Honda 250 Recon without the 4X4 option. I added an aftermarket winch to it. I only needed the winch once. My son got stuck in a big snow bank and had to drag it out. It fell through the snow into a small ditch that he didn't know was there. I don't think the 4X4 option would have gotten it out of that one. That goodness for the winch. My son is currently purchasing this model. He should have it within the next couple of week. We go camping together a long in the high mountains. Now he won't have to be riding behind me on mine.
What’s the offset on those wheels
way too much stuff has been added = an over complicated machine that was once a better alternative.
fuel injected? sounds like a cool idea - we shall see how long that lasts.
I can fix a carb but cant fix a computer controlled device. (shucks) its new technology. ;)
I got one & do like the footshift - it works
would like a recoil starter as well, But its not AT or ES - roll starting this manual Rancher might be possible. :)
actually I did like the recoil starter on the 2005 grizzly 660 [surprised it started so easy, but its AT and too complicated with a belt that needs replaced.
had a belt on Snow machines which were good, but learned to carry a spare for bush repairs. (beats walking)
so bought a new 22 rancher 420 and it seems to be built well.
I love my 22 FA6. If this has larger tires like it looks remember that makes gearing talker = less TQ more speed. Not for me
Thank you .
Is this model available in camouflage?
Check out the video, I talk about what colors it's available in and a LOT more bud ;)
@@HondaProKevin would this be perfect for a Beginner?
12 volt plug and one more gear on transmission
420... huh huh huh, yeah.
Lol! I fought myself on wanting to lean into that to try and make a funny.
IRS for sure
Go back to the 80's and build some shit that doesn't die from dust
Loved my 2023 420 until it burned lol wasn’t the bikes, fault it would go threw anything my buddy’s big can-am’s would with less effort she’s a mud hog for sure
Looks beautiful