^ mostly for comfort purposes because (most) basses can't belt above C4 without sounding like they're being strangled (me being in that category bc i can't mix for shit)
I'm a huge Pentatonix fan, I love them all, I'm being honest, Scott is not even the best singer in that group. Doesn't need to be cuz he's a great leader and composer (arrangement creator). He's a very strong and talented singer; however, saying he's one of the most developed in pop is arguable, and why would it even matter in pop. I kind've wish people were able to just enjoy good music and would stop making comparisons (I'm a hypocrite, I know, I've a reason to be one right now though), especially in whatever-works pop music. There's so much more talent and development in other (definitely not all other) genres of music. take Dimash Kudaibergen (who is a baritone btw) for example. Who in pop can compete with that? People don't have to be the best or one of the best to be great. I think it's more than enough to say I really like this artist, or these are my favorite. Trying to qualify that by saying they are better than most every one else is weird. That is just your opinion, leave comparisons for bonified singing experts. Damn, ranting because statements by non-experts trigger me. Singing experts tend to be very gracious to anyone doing their best to sing, and won't usually give their honest opinion until you corner them.
I'm not an expert, I'm only a near expert (because I have undergone training and at least know what you are supposed to do). I'm not qualified enough to say who the best in the pop business is or even the top 20 (if I had to guess, I'd say probably Ariana Grande (don't even like her music)). I do know enough to say that Scott's technique is not perfect, way better than me though, whereas it's a little harder to tell with some of the other members in Pentatonix. I still love Scott though, and will watch pretty much anything with him in it (have y'all seen Lost on You with Mario Jose? (Mario Jose flat out makes me jealous).
Yes, Ariana Grande. I don’t listen to her music-not my thing-but her technique is undeniable. Like said, I know I’m not qualified to say who is best, this is just my opinion from what I’ve heard and seen. She has mastered all of her voice type strats (chest, mixed and head-I’ve no idea how that little body can belt like that), her placement on the notes is impeccable and will sing circles around almost anyone. And she can do all this in the most incredible positions. While dancing, laying on the the floor, in the passenger seat of a car, scrunched up in a cramped space. You can be like me and dislike her art, but don’t tell me she ain’t accomplished.
John is so freaking consistent he really doesn't seem to struggle even at the top of his range. Like the only thing stopping him is his natural physiological limit.
@@memoirsofanimperfectbaritone Hahaha ... You're right!! He's amazing.. Even though John legend emotes really really well... Bubble is my favorite voice out of the lot..
@@enricocaricatuscuroso763 The guy you showed in that video is decent, but he's not an amazing baritone. He is rather woofy and he could project better if he didn't force his voice so much. But he has some good in his technique otherwise he couldn't project on an orchestra at all.
Eventhough he is goofy on Family Guy I love hearing Brian cause that is actual voice and when he sings a Brian I love it too. He is very blessed with that voice.
brandon castillo most of them. None of them sing like baritones anyway. Just because you don’t make your voice small like a girl doesn’t make you a baritone lol. These guys sing smaller than small opera tenors. Seems silly to call them baritones when they aren’t anything
Purple Petals I really can’t hear buble being a natural baritone. Lacks the cord length and vocal tract length. Very standard pop tenory sound imo. It’s just all these really small thin voices have warped perception a bit. If you want to hear a more obvious baritone instrument listen to Brian stokes Mitchell wheels of a dream
Purple Petals That really wasn't an opinion but a fact. Please see for yourself.. kpopvocalanalysis.net/2016/08/04/bts-vocal-analysis-v/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baritones_in_non-classical_music Are you sure you are not confusing v with another idol?
As a baritone, I want to say thank you. Because I always liked tenor-singers like Ed Sheeran, Steven Tyler and Bruno Mars. Finding out, that I'm a baritone was such a stroke. But now I feel much better, I never thought, that John Legend is a baritone.
Hwanhee has one of the brightest baritone voices I've ever heard. It's all the more impressive when you realize his voice sits just below the tenor clef, which easily makes him very versatile as a singer (tenor or baritone). Also, I always appreciated Scott Hoyings voice since I first heard him in his early Pentatonix days. Such talented singers in this video. So wholesome.
@@redvelvetismyreligion9871 He is a baritone though... more like a bruno mars of the baritones. Meaning, most baritones cannot reach the notes as high as hwanhee, much like most tenors might not be comfortable hitting like bruno mars... In my opinion, baritones tend to belt with much needed support at higher notes (G4 and above) than with a tenor. Even a low tenor would be quite comfortable at G4 as far as I understood it...
@@falkfinkthat only applies to average, untrained &/or underdeveloped Tenors. The biggest & lowest of the Tenors can sing a G4 in full voice fairly easily when trained Rt. Most trained Tenors maintain full voice function to the high C at least. That whole head dominant above F4 thing you said, once again, only applies to underdeveloped/untrained Tenors, & even then, there’s plenty of those who can stay chest dominant above F.
John Legend and Michael Buble have inspired my singing so much. I'm trying to do my part as well to give baritone singers like myself a place in pop music! We're very versatile singers!! :)
I've always been frustrated being a baritone. My singing range would be from F2 to A4, up to Bb4 at my very best, comfort is up to G#4. Everyone else I know who sing well easily reach B4 and beyond, so I feel pathetic. Haha. But thanks to videos like this and many inspiring baritones I'm now much more accepting of my vocal classification. We just have to make the most of what we got.
@@playagamelp6594 I'd say it's not really impressive range. I also sometimes struggle at E4 before I knew about technique and all that, and on a bad day.
@@touchitbaeproductions2066 then good for you. Vocal classifications does not limit how high or low you can go, just categorizes you on which range you are most comfortable at. It does not say that baritones can never belt higher than tenors. It does not say sopranos cannot hit lower notes than many lower voice types. Mariah, a soprano, can go lower than some mezzos and altos and tenors and baritones. Bass Tim Foust can go as high as Bb4 which is high for basses and even for some baritones and is considerably an upper belt already for tenors.
Okay imma Baritone so love this but low key (pun intended) I feel like Altos are the most underrated of the Vocal groups. Like when a girl can hit a low note it’s so pretty imo.
Justin Bieber a Baritone? WTF!! I am a Tenor and my voice sounds twice thicker than him. He is a Light-Lyric Tenor with a bad tehnique, the same goes with Shawn Mendes. If someone can sing some lower notes that doesn't mean he is a Baritone. All that matters is where your voice shines, where you feel the most comfortable to sing. True pop Baritones are: Michael Bublé, Frank Sinatra, John Legend, Rick Astley, Seth MacFarlane etc.
honestly i think they were just in the background while the creator explained stuff. like how to show what people now a days think baritones sound like then compare them to actual baritones.
Baritones are so underestimated, it’s so sad and it sucks. They can surprise us at any time and that’s so amazing. They should be recognized more. I hate people that say “y’all can’t sing high notes”, that’s WRONG. Our voice is emotional, moving, it tells a story behind it. Just like y’all appreciate other high voices, appreciate ours too💜
@@brighte2712 plus they can sing high notes! It’s just that a high note for a baritone is a f4, just like for a soprano is a f5… but at f4 a baritone is able to display power and resonance just like a soprano would do with a f5. A well trained baritone can belt, but his belts are lower than other voice types… but you can bet that a f4 belted by a baritone would drown a f4 sang by a woman because a woman’s voice hasn’t normally taken off at that height, while a baritone’s voice is already flying… those high notes deserve to be appreciated even if they are not high by the standards of a higher voice type, just like a woman’s 3d octave notes deserve appreciation even if they aren’t low by the standards of a baritone. Also baritones are able to hit 3d and 2d octave with ease, while for other voice types (except for basses), these notes can be hard to hit or barely audible… a baritone can go down to the bottom of the 2nd octave and that’s just as special as going up to the 5th octave in belting. Low notes are just as beautiful and important as high notes, it’s just that pop doesn’t showcase them much. John Legend or Scott Hoying are more proficient at singing than almost all tenors out there today (with few exceptions such as Adam Lambert etc etc)
@@AnimalsKevinthe chances of u being a baritone is much higher than a tenor because baritone are more common than tenor it a completely male voice where it is balance between the high and the low tbh idk why people don’t like balance I begin to feel very bored by music now a day because everyone sound like Bieber tone all are tenor
@@saysamnang9851actually it’s not. Very big misconception. Tenor is more common. Most male voices are untrained to sing at the extremes of their voices (as is any untrained voice) so they do most of their singing in midrange. Either that, or they’re trained so well as Tenors to sing big, dark & loud & have excellent chest development, that people automatically assume they’re Baritones b/c they sing big, dark & have solid low notes.
When people are sad about them being baritones it gives me a serious cringe... Dude... Chris Cornell, Brent Smith, Frank Sinatra and a lot more... Come on. It takes a serious vocal training but it's doable...
Just a dude passing by Nah Justin is definitely a light lyric tenor, his voice is not weighty or dark the same way baritones are. His voice color is light, bright, has some natural capabilities of benign agile (except that his runs are almost always messy or off key). The same thing goes to Shawn. Both of them are technically underdeveloped tenors
@@thehainote1082 vocal range classification is not about how light your voice is, it's about how high it goes. Bieber's voice is light, but not high enough to be a tenor.
Mike, TheAnimated okay, so is his voice low enough to be a baritone? Absolutely not. Mariah Carey’s range is F2-Bb7. Does that mean she’s a baritone AND a tenor AND a contralto AND a mezzo soprano AND a soprano? Absolutely not. Vocal range does not determine a person’s voice type, tessitura and passagio do. His comfortable range is completely at the tenor range. His vocal range is not high, simply because his technique is underdeveloped and his range is not large. Same thing goes to Shawn Mendes. They are just tenors with undeveloped vocal technique and narrow range.
@@MiketheNerdRanger Wrong. Yes range plays a role but more importantly timbre and tessitura play a role. Shawn Mendes has zero weightt to his voice above G3. Same for Bieber. As the above comment says, Mariah Carey who arguably in her prime had one of the best vocal techniques in mainstream music, has a vocal range of Eb2-B7 (studio/live). She was a coloratura soprano (more of an alto now due to nodules) despite being able to vocally support down to D3 and hit F2s easily. Fuck, I can sing F7s, doesn't make me a soprano. I can sing E2s, doesn't make me a bass or baritone. My voice sounds quite bright so I am classed as a tenor. At the end of the day, vocal classification is majority of the time unhelpful and pointless. Voices are so random and ranges come in so many different sizes. It would be ridiculous to just classify a voice by what notes they can hit. Speak to any vocal coach, any classical trained vocalist and they will say the same.
Thank you Mr.Skinny for this very clearly presented video! As a voice coach for over 25 years, I've been explaining and coaching Baritones, about mixing their registers, and why this is sooo important. For all singers actually. Your video is excellent intro into the science, training and art of real singing, which I am so passionate about. When students take the time to really train their voices, and not expect overnight results, they realize what they can do, it's so wonderful. Your video makes vocal principles (mix, head/chest, dark and light sounds, etc, fach) from vocal function and Bel Canto fundamentals, very clear....
If you’re a vocal coach for over 25 yrs, you should know some of his/her info is off. Such as classifying Scott Hoying & John Park as baritones when they’re Lyric Tenors for 1.
I’d like to thank you for making this video I’m a young singer in choir and I was looking for a song to do for a solo project all the songs I found were to high for me but with your video I found new people and songs to sing and inspire me so thank you so much
As a Verdi/Dramatic Baritone, I absolutely adore my voice. It's Dark, Rich, Thick, Heavy and I get belt for days. As my voice doesn't harbor much agility at all, the music most appropriate for it is Traditional Pop/Jazz/Classical Music. My supported range spans G2 - Bb4.
This video was much needed. Thank you for this. I’ve always struggled with my voice type. I was forced to sing bass in high school because of not enough guys and that gave me the opportunity to extend my range. I ended up switching to tenor my senior year and I’ve realized I’m a baritenor. Baritones are under appreciated and this video showcases why they should be appreciated more! You gave great examples of many singers. Ex: Michael Bublé is truly magnificent. His voice is like butter. 😍 Scott’s runs though. Ugh. So good! & the true tea is Xtina’s baritone qualities, lmao but honestly her falsetto/head voice speaks for itself as to how she’s a soprano. One thing I’ve noticed with baritones is that their falsettos are usually more powerful than tenors! Anyways, this video made me proud to be a baritone and I know I’m in good company! :)
Baritenor is the best voice type for a male actually. You get the lows, the warm and some of the weight of a baritone but your voice is still capable of going up to a tenor C5 from what I've seen. To me baritenor is sort of like the male equivalent of a mezzo-soprano
I personally have always liked being a baritone (specifically saying, dark and warm one). So much versatility comes with this voice type. My range is about from E2 to F2 but can reach very breathy A4 (not falsetto tho). I’m currently developing effortless tone within those two octaves and hope that one day I will be able to show off those vocals like Bubble or Park or even Legend himself^^ Have a nice day fellow baritones♥️
Thank you so so much for this video!!! I am myself a baritone (range at my best goes to B1-G#4 & my falsetto are consistently up to E5 but I can go higher on a good day) and I feel like some baritones are pushing too high to sound like tenors to "fit" in the music industry. I think that some natural baritones should respect their limits and their tessitura because they might break their vocal cords If they are always pushing too high, without a good technique. Personnaly, I know my support range/comfort range is F2-Eb4 and I’m making efforts to support up to F4/F#4 because I know I’m capable to and I know I can go higher, like Bb4 or something. I know my strength is my lower register, which is extremely developped and I can go as low as I want, so, I’m always putting some low notes on my covers. However, some male singers are so pushed by the industry that they forgot their comfort zone and they always pushing too high, it is sad actually. :/
Our ranges are quite similar then. I wonder if you have any advices on how to build and expand your connected/supported range because I find my voice to be plagued with multiple problems even in the lower 4th octave. My lower range is quite solid but I know that I must try to develop all parts of my voice if I want to be taken seriously as a singer. :P
Walter Velvet Gregson Hi! :) Sorry for the delay to answering you! What really helped me to improve my voice (which is still not perfect at all), is to find your voice. Find your tone, find what is your range and don’t try to push it too hard when you can’t yet. I watched a lot of videos to learn how to improve my head voice and how to mixing properly and they really helped me. 2 years ago, I couldn’t even barely hit a F4 without screaming it because of how "chesty" I was and now, my voice has matured and I can hit it pretty effortlessly. Not supported yet tho hahaha! But to use a connected head voice, practicing a lot to get to know your voice and try to look where your voice is straining and when it’s not will definitely help you to improve your voice! :) Before, my supported range was like A2-B3/C4 and now it’s like F2-Eb4 and I supported some E4 at good moments! When I had this tiny supported range, It’s because I had the tendancy to lower my larynx when I was going down and, as soon as I was belting a bit more higher, I raised my larynx and the sound came from my throat and not from my diaphragm.
God, I'm so glad that Alejandro Manzano wa sincluded in this, because he is an absolute beast. His delivery can be too cheesy at times, but boy does he have a great voice. Also, since he's been uploading videos for over a decade, you can really see the improvement. From lightly straining on a D4 in "Wherever you will go" to his recent cover of "Never Enough", where he belts G#4s like they're NOTHING.
i can sing in the 7th octave and im stilll a baritone....i cant get passed A4 and i dont know how to use mix for the upper register....but ive a developed head voice and falsetto that enables me to hit higher motes....similar to charlie puth
The understimating is obvious: weak voice and inexpressive. It is more easy to see in gospel/4 harmony part quartets.... You can't hear baritone voice. Only lead, Bass and tenor.
I got a weird compliment today at work, a costumer told me I had a really strong baritone voice and asked if I sang, and I told him that I can’t and he said people who say they can’t sing have never tried, I honestly want too try now. Because I love music I just can’t sing 😂
Thank you so much for this appreciation video of baritone singers! In an age where everyone glorifies male singers' belty high notes, baritones' rich, sweet, and adaptable middling voices surely make the listening experience more refreshing for contemporary listeners. My personal faves are Michael Buble, Josh Tillman (Father John Misty), Chris Cornell, John Legend, and of course the man Frank Sinatra. On a side note, I was wondering if you're interested in checking out the rock music scene a little since there are quite a number of vocalists (both male and female) who can seriously SANG. 😁😍
I think the point is that people are expecting some extent of "excitement" or "wildness" in popular music. You know, people feel excited when they hear male/female singers sing notes that are high and extraordinary. I noticed that a lot of the songs sung by female artists have prominent, high notes (regardless of the natural tone or range of the artists). And I think the same goes for male singers too. A lot of people, record companies and critics jump to the conclusion that printing out songs, which hardly include impressive high notes, are not so profitable and appealing to the mass audience. This kinda makes me upset from time to time as I'm mostly identified as a contralto and to think that it will be difficult to adapt to this demanding market. Really, it goes to the point I feel like I need to intentionally alter my voice 😫
Famouse Baritones: Eddie Vedder, Scott Weyland, Coldplay, Axl Rose, Sinatra, Robbie Williams, Vile Vallo, Crish Cornell, Héroes del Silencio, Axl Rose, RHCP, RATM, Ricky Martín
"Coldplay" It's Chris Martin dude lmao. There's also some you didn't mention: Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons Dan Smith from Bastille Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys Lewis Capaldi
*Sorry, but this video lost me from the beginning;* I don't know much about *Charlie but Justin Bieber & Shawn Mendes are definitely not Baritones* 😂 There's a difference between Baritones and Tenors with faulty technique... I love that you showcased some great Baritones though eg. Scott, John Legend, Michael Buble etc. And the *LEGENDARY FRANK SINATRA* ✨
@@arianacareymariahgrande3582 It seems like that's what he's trying to say, but Justin, Charlie & Shawn lack the most important quality that defines *Baritones.*
Thank U for making this video. Baritones definitely deserve more recognition. Btw is it just me or do baritones in pop seem to have better musicianship than tenors? I mean some tenors tend to show off range and overuse high notes (to charm ppl with untrained ears maybe? 😂) while baritones focus more on vocal quality and message delivery, which is much more important in music.
This is SOOO relatable!!! When I sing Jojo's, Ariana's, Kim Petra's song an octave lower, my voice just doesn't fit. Some notes don't sound that powerful or light, as they sound in the original. And another problem is that I don't like the style of pop-baritones. I don't wanna sing a sexy-jazz-declaration-of-love, I want high notes, whistle notes, some difficult elements and technique! If you know baritone-singers (including cover-singers) which sing in that style, please, let me know. I'm so exhausted of searching!
Low notes are the best ones dude. People are so used to hear high notes, but when they hear a very low note ... It is very shocking and even hypnotizing
You don’t have to sing in the same keys as the original…. Just take the key down till the highest note is comfortable….It may only be a few steps down. The intervals are still the same.
I was a tenor 1 year ago(17) and my vocal range was G#2-E5. Somehow, I suddenly became a baritone. Now my vocal range is C2-C#5 and my low notes are most powerful and voluminous. I am genetically lucky because all of my uncles are Bass-Baritone. I hope I can hit The High C note.
My range is C2 - F4(sometimes F#4) - D6 My mix is really chesty i can support F2 - C#4 consistently but i really want to go up there with those easy E4s
learnt a lot! thanks so much! you should do more videos on mens vocals as well! It’s easier to understand compared to the women’s videos since mens range is more relatable!
I’ve never in my life heard a Baritone or tenor song. It’s frustrating for me because that’s my vocal range and even guys sing alto or high alto and I can never reach that high
Can you do a video about Ledisi¿? She is classically trained and her mentor is the Rachelle Ferelle. She has a great mix, agility, headvoice, and good lows. She also has great dynamics and a wide range.
Hi! Do you now if I'm a bass or baritone? I can sing down to D#2/D2. When I sing up, my voice sounds like head voice from about E4. Also, I find it easier to sing below the 4th octave(Middle C is somewhat O.K.-ish). Finally, I'm 13 years old.
@@nomercy1350 I think you may be a baritone, but need some training in the low part, but if you could upload a video singing the notes of your range it may help to.
Used to beat myself up for not being a tenor. As I got older, I learned to value honing the quality, tone and power of my voice. A tip for frustrated baritones who are singing tenor songs: Change the key of the song. You learn to really love your authentic voice once you sing in a comfortable range.
What I've learned from reading the comments: different people have different opinions about what makes a baritone. It's interesting. Thanks for the vid, and also for the interesting comments and discussions!
Lol John park was my neighbor and friend in middle school and high school then he got famous on American Idol and became too cool. It’s crazy cause we used to just play video games volleyball and basketball together all the time in our shitty apartment complex community. Humble beginnings don’t mean shit.
I'm a baritone singer for myself and it always felt like a curse not being able to naturally reach these really high notes (last really good note I can hit witch chest voice is the high G). But today I'm pretty happy with the possibility to sing both bass and tenor songs without sounding strange in one way. If I want to cover higher songs I just tune my guitar down a little bit. :-)
I salute to all baritones that can g#4 in contemporary and even go to scales of tenors. As a baritone I can go to tenor range to but it isnt a power instead it’s a falsetto (head tone) [Update] I’ve learned to now to develop heady mixed voice so I’m fine
Uh, can you help me? I don't know what a baritone is. I downloaded an app called Vocal Pitch Monitor My lowest is an E2 sometimes D2 my highest belt is in between A4 and B4 I don't know what that is. I don't know if higher than that is a mixed or a belt, the strain starts when I attempt to belt a C5 and above. My whisperish voice or head voice idk can reach A5. I dont know if whistles counts lol but i can sustain it for 5 seconds at like G6 or something. Is that good or bad
ShiftyClouds woah sorry for late reply! I use heady mix to hit the highs tho I really wished I could do a balanced mix but as of now God gave me a voice whose capability is in heady mix tho the compromise is power on the middle notes when you do riffs and runs from low to high or versa, well development of strong heady mix in middle range is not an overnight learning. Im so glad you still have that wide range I already lost my whistle last year on dec and my voice changed having darker tone my range now is G2 up to G5 I lost my 6th octave range and as a person who grew from ariana grande, mariah carey female artists, having no 6th octaves kinda frustrated me but now I’ve learned to love my range and utilize it 😁
Fildza Finn agreed. I wish i could retrain my higher range i had a phase of wanting deep voice and hitting the notes hit by Avi Kaplan during 7th to 8th grade prior to that I was a fan of charlie puth ariana and mariah (basically high noters)
*Kim Taehyung has entered the Baritone group chat* . All these amazing baritones.😍😍😍 I love this. Baritone vocals are beautiful and really underappreciated. Thank you for making this 😊
Fandom & Bias Wars be DUMB cuz they all AWESOME I really love his voice as it’s one of my favorite voices overall (woo-hoo proud Tae stan! 🤗💜), but technically he has a lot of work to do: he has a lot of potential in his lower range, but it’s not as developed as it should be-it’s quite underdeveloped and undertrained for a baritone (can only support down to a C3), and he has his set of bad habits as well: his lowered larynx which can make him pitchy at times and tongue tension due to this weird tongue habit that he developed recently. Other than that, he’s the only one in BTS who has a grasp more or less on the basics of singing within his own range (he has a limited and shallow but more or less established support for instance) right, and his middle and upper range is alright in terms of development relatively (I think their vocal coach whoever he/she is focused a lot more on their upper ranges with falsettos than any part of their voices so that’s why their falsettos sound nice compared to other vocalists but they’re technically not impressive). He has so much untapped potential and as a hardcore Tae stan, I really want to get his potential unleashed, but not sure if it’s really going to happen or not, because sometimes the way that Big*hit treats him is unethically questionable or not the best, and that what makes me mad.
@@KittyTsundere I agree with you so much. T Truth be told,I'm a whole dumbass with this musical technicality stuff. Tae is my bias too...and I absolutely love his voice but I always felt like there's so much more to it..like it has not reached its full potential,so I totally get what you mean. Idk if its only me ..but there are just these little moments here and there that you notice just how great his voice is -I can't pinpoint a moment exactly-but like him singing in a run episode or in the bg somewhere...idk if that makes sense?😅 I want Tae to unleash his potential.I want all of them to.. With all that money Bighit is making these days wonder,why they don't hire A GOOD vocal coach to bring out the best in them? I do have another question, i often feel like vocally Tae is kinda similar (he could be,I'd he really tapped into it) like Brendon Urie from Panic! at the disco....like idk I feel like they both have an amazing vocal range,the most notable difference being Brendon knows it and uses it well and Tae has not....and they are both similar as well.. Idk if you know Panic? But If you do , would you agree? Anyways thanks so much for explaining,I really do appreciate it and I learned something😊
Justin Bieber is a tenor , John legend is a baritone Boyce Avenue is a tenor Hwanhee is a baritone Michael Buble is a high baritone or a low tenor Scott Hoying could go either way but he is likely a low tenor. He has depth in his upper register and the only low note was a super pushed down larynx The next John is a real baritone Seth Mcfarlane is an Incredible baritone singer on the lower end of the baritone range.
I think Scott is a light lyric baritone, although he does sing a lot in tenor range. If you want to hear Scott really go low, I recommend Pentatonix's cover of The Sound of Silence, or during Hallelujah, when bass singer (Avi/Matt) is singing the lead, Scott will cover the bass line, for most new Pentatonix fans, it's hard for them to tell the difference between the bass line switch. His low notes are pretty resonance and his comfortable range is quite low for tenor.
The video showed Justin Bieber. Bieber isnt a baritone. If you're gunna talk music,know what you're talking about. The same goes for Shawn Mendes. Theres a difference between being bad and trying to designate their range as singers.
That's why I'm so happy that even I can't sing my favorite songs since it's for tenors i still like being baritone since baritones can sing both high and low notes, I'm still working on my mixed voice
As a baritone I think that the reason why we are underestimated is that we have the most boring ranges. My vocal range is D2-G4-D5, it depends of the day though. Sometimes I can go lower, one time I hit a B1 due to my voice being really husky and tired. The top of my belting range is pretty much F#4 or G5 every day, although as I've never been trained, I tend to get VERY bad around D4 (my larynx flies to the stratosphere and I get too tense to sing comfortably). As for my falsetto and head voice I only have to say that I once was really proud of this part of my voice. Not so long ago I could hit really high notes (I could reach the 6th octave in falsetto pretty comfortably), I had never had a problem using my falsetto and my head voice was pretty too... But as I started to get more into belting and to give more importance to my chest voice my range almost disappeared. It seems like I forgot how I did it, but now every time I get to the 5th octave I start to get tensed (and my larynx again tries to fly away from my neck), really sad because I believe it was the strongest part of my voice, and now I barely use it. Well, this was a long ass text and I'm sure that no one cares, but if any other baritone out there that had the same problems as me wants to give me some advise I would greatly appreciate it.
too bad bass singers in pop isn't a thing :( i'd love to sing the same notes as singers and not an octave lower
Daniel Gomez I feel the pain
so happy im not alone
I definitely understand that! I was just thinking how there’s not really any popular bass singers out there! We need representation too
I feel you.
^ mostly for comfort purposes because (most) basses can't belt above C4 without sounding like they're being strangled (me being in that category bc i can't mix for shit)
Vocally John Legend and Scott Hoying. They probably have one of the most developed voices in pop music today
Pretty much almost all baritones in this video actually
Watch hwanhee from fly to the sky he supported a4
I'm a huge Pentatonix fan, I love them all, I'm being honest, Scott is not even the best singer in that group. Doesn't need to be cuz he's a great leader and composer (arrangement creator). He's a very strong and talented singer; however, saying he's one of the most developed in pop is arguable, and why would it even matter in pop. I kind've wish people were able to just enjoy good music and would stop making comparisons (I'm a hypocrite, I know, I've a reason to be one right now though), especially in whatever-works pop music. There's so much more talent and development in other (definitely not all other) genres of music. take Dimash Kudaibergen (who is a baritone btw) for example. Who in pop can compete with that?
People don't have to be the best or one of the best to be great. I think it's more than enough to say I really like this artist, or these are my favorite. Trying to qualify that by saying they are better than most every one else is weird. That is just your opinion, leave comparisons for bonified singing experts.
Damn, ranting because statements by non-experts trigger me. Singing experts tend to be very gracious to anyone doing their best to sing, and won't usually give their honest opinion until you corner them.
I'm not an expert, I'm only a near expert (because I have undergone training and at least know what you are supposed to do). I'm not qualified enough to say who the best in the pop business is or even the top 20 (if I had to guess, I'd say probably Ariana Grande (don't even like her music)). I do know enough to say that Scott's technique is not perfect, way better than me though, whereas it's a little harder to tell with some of the other members in Pentatonix. I still love Scott though, and will watch pretty much anything with him in it (have y'all seen Lost on You with Mario Jose? (Mario Jose flat out makes me jealous).
Yes, Ariana Grande. I don’t listen to her music-not my thing-but her technique is undeniable. Like said, I know I’m not qualified to say who is best, this is just my opinion from what I’ve heard and seen. She has mastered all of her voice type strats (chest, mixed and head-I’ve no idea how that little body can belt like that), her placement on the notes is impeccable and will sing circles around almost anyone. And she can do all this in the most incredible positions. While dancing, laying on the the floor, in the passenger seat of a car, scrunched up in a cramped space. You can be like me and dislike her art, but don’t tell me she ain’t accomplished.
John is so freaking consistent he really doesn't seem to struggle even at the top of his range. Like the only thing stopping him is his natural physiological limit.
He is really good.. compared to all of them his voice sounds really really heavy. bubble isn't bad as well
Ashley Winston George ‘Bublé isn’t bad aswelll’ c’monnn now...Bublé is amazing
@@memoirsofanimperfectbaritone Hahaha ... You're right!! He's amazing.. Even though John legend emotes really really well... Bubble is my favorite voice out of the lot..
He was miscast I believe. He's a baritone and that role is for tenors.
I wish I could have his technique, I'm a baritone but I Can support only until Eb4 or E4, I have to learn how to mix😭😭😭😭
John Legend sounds like a borderline opera singer. So beautiful.
KimiDesu so why does John legend sing smaller than a small tenor? 10:15 this is an opera baritone mate th-cam.com/video/CHVqhRMVgvg/w-d-xo.html
I know what you mean. Great singers always have an opera voice just underneath the surface.
@@DonVal86 cuz they have vibrato
@@enricocaricatuscuroso763 The guy you showed in that video is decent, but he's not an amazing baritone. He is rather woofy and he could project better if he didn't force his voice so much. But he has some good in his technique otherwise he couldn't project on an orchestra at all.
Seth MacFarlane is an amazing singer. Enough said! Such full resonance and great diction throughout his range.
Eventhough he is goofy on Family Guy I love hearing Brian cause that is actual voice and when he sings a Brian I love it too. He is very blessed with that voice.
Some of these guys are clearly tenors...
brandon castillo most of them. None of them sing like baritones anyway. Just because you don’t make your voice small like a girl doesn’t make you a baritone lol. These guys sing smaller than small opera tenors. Seems silly to call them baritones when they aren’t anything
Purple Petals I really can’t hear buble being a natural baritone. Lacks the cord length and vocal tract length. Very standard pop tenory sound imo. It’s just all these really small thin voices have warped perception a bit. If you want to hear a more obvious baritone instrument listen to Brian stokes Mitchell wheels of a dream
Purple Petals and then you get into opera and hear what a real baritone can sound like 😂 th-cam.com/video/HVWuOeM1HIc/w-d-xo.html
Purple Petals V(BTS) is a baritone.
Purple Petals That really wasn't an opinion but a fact.
Please see for yourself..
kpopvocalanalysis.net/2016/08/04/bts-vocal-analysis-v/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baritones_in_non-classical_music
Are you sure you are not confusing v with another idol?
As a baritone, I want to say thank you. Because I always liked tenor-singers like Ed Sheeran, Steven Tyler and Bruno Mars. Finding out, that I'm a baritone was such a stroke. But now I feel much better, I never thought, that John Legend is a baritone.
Baritenor.
Hwanhee has one of the brightest baritone voices I've ever heard. It's all the more impressive when you realize his voice sits just below the tenor clef, which easily makes him very versatile as a singer (tenor or baritone). Also, I always appreciated Scott Hoyings voice since I first heard him in his early Pentatonix days. Such talented singers in this video. So wholesome.
For me hwanhee is a low tenor not a true baritone
@@redvelvetismyreligion9871 He is a baritone though... more like a bruno mars of the baritones. Meaning, most baritones cannot reach the notes as high as hwanhee, much like most tenors might not be comfortable hitting like bruno mars...
In my opinion, baritones tend to belt with much needed support at higher notes (G4 and above) than with a tenor. Even a low tenor would be quite comfortable at G4 as far as I understood it...
@@falkfinkthat only applies to average, untrained &/or underdeveloped Tenors. The biggest & lowest of the Tenors can sing a G4 in full voice fairly easily when trained Rt.
Most trained Tenors maintain full voice function to the high C at least. That whole head dominant above F4 thing you said, once again, only applies to underdeveloped/untrained Tenors, & even then, there’s plenty of those who can stay chest dominant above F.
John Legend and Michael Buble have inspired my singing so much. I'm trying to do my part as well to give baritone singers like myself a place in pop music! We're very versatile singers!! :)
John Legend, Johnny Cash and Frank Sinatra are what I would use as quintessential examples of baritones in pop
Cash was a bass-baritone.
@@MultiKamil97 maybe when he was older. His low notes in the Wanderer are tough to get to.
Check out Orvill Peck. He's pretty new on the country scene but sounds like Cash, Curtis, and Orbison.
Cash was a bass
Baritones aren’t really overlooked though, they’re the most common vocal type and get the most attention, is poor basses are always ignored 😢
They are the most common in real life but popular music doesn't serve baritones too well. People give basses a ton of attention for their low voices.
Nik Di Lalla nreal tenor si rare. Generally is baritone .
Basses are really rare, so they get less attention because their are less of them. They are really beloved in classical settings.
Pranav Ajay Warrier tenors are a lot more common than people think. A lot of “baritones” are just lower tenors.
the common is tenor, it is everywhere
I've always been frustrated being a baritone. My singing range would be from F2 to A4, up to Bb4 at my very best, comfort is up to G#4.
Everyone else I know who sing well easily reach B4 and beyond, so I feel pathetic. Haha. But thanks to videos like this and many inspiring baritones I'm now much more accepting of my vocal classification. We just have to make the most of what we got.
Bel Canto I’m jealous of your range. Sometimes E4 is pretty hard for me
@@playagamelp6594 I'd say it's not really impressive range. I also sometimes struggle at E4 before I knew about technique and all that, and on a bad day.
How is your lowest F2 when you're a baritone and mine is D2 and I'm a tenor?
No offense, just asking.
@@touchitbaeproductions2066 then good for you. Vocal classifications does not limit how high or low you can go, just categorizes you on which range you are most comfortable at. It does not say that baritones can never belt higher than tenors. It does not say sopranos cannot hit lower notes than many lower voice types.
Mariah, a soprano, can go lower than some mezzos and altos and tenors and baritones.
Bass Tim Foust can go as high as Bb4 which is high for basses and even for some baritones and is considerably an upper belt already for tenors.
As a baritone I'm honestly really happy with my vocal range, I can go from C2 to G5 LoL
Okay imma Baritone so love this but low key (pun intended) I feel like Altos are the most underrated of the Vocal groups. Like when a girl can hit a low note it’s so pretty imo.
Altos aren’t really a thing outside of choir, there’s mezzo-sopranos and contraltos
Us altos (including Adele) thank you - we love it low! ;)
I believe that when anyone hits a low note it's beautiful
as a low voiced female, i thank you
I love a contralto.
(Two words: Karen Carpenter...)
Justin Bieber a Baritone? WTF!! I am a Tenor and my voice sounds twice thicker than him. He is a Light-Lyric Tenor with a bad tehnique, the same goes with Shawn Mendes. If someone can sing some lower notes that doesn't mean he is a Baritone. All that matters is where your voice shines, where you feel the most comfortable to sing. True pop Baritones are: Michael Bublé, Frank Sinatra, John Legend, Rick Astley, Seth MacFarlane etc.
Josh Groban is a pop baritone too but not mainstream
Dan Smith from Bastille
CHRIS MARTIN- COLDPLAY
They're my hope 😂 I have a chest voice : F2-F4 and a falsetto up to C6. 😂
I agree!!!!!
Why did the video start with a bunch of tenors singing at their lower range lol
honestly i think they were just in the background while the creator explained stuff. like how to show what people now a days think baritones sound like then compare them to actual baritones.
True...😂😂
Because they are actually baritones that use autotune to raise their pitch...
Gabriel Martin uhhh no lol why don’t you look into how auto tune works
@@gabrielmartin2483 lol so wrong
Baritones are so underestimated, it’s so sad and it sucks. They can surprise us at any time and that’s so amazing. They should be recognized more. I hate people that say “y’all can’t sing high notes”, that’s WRONG. Our voice is emotional, moving, it tells a story behind it. Just like y’all appreciate other high voices, appreciate ours too💜
I'm a tenor but I agree, you've got amazing voices
@@brighte2712 plus they can sing high notes! It’s just that a high note for a baritone is a f4, just like for a soprano is a f5… but at f4 a baritone is able to display power and resonance just like a soprano would do with a f5. A well trained baritone can belt, but his belts are lower than other voice types… but you can bet that a f4 belted by a baritone would drown a f4 sang by a woman because a woman’s voice hasn’t normally taken off at that height, while a baritone’s voice is already flying… those high notes deserve to be appreciated even if they are not high by the standards of a higher voice type, just like a woman’s 3d octave notes deserve appreciation even if they aren’t low by the standards of a baritone. Also baritones are able to hit 3d and 2d octave with ease, while for other voice types (except for basses), these notes can be hard to hit or barely audible… a baritone can go down to the bottom of the 2nd octave and that’s just as special as going up to the 5th octave in belting. Low notes are just as beautiful and important as high notes, it’s just that pop doesn’t showcase them much. John Legend or Scott Hoying are more proficient at singing than almost all tenors out there today (with few exceptions such as Adam Lambert etc etc)
@@icydelight3693 nice words here,, l would love to know my singing voice, l don't know it yet, but my says it's Baritone
@@AnimalsKevinthe chances of u being a baritone is much higher than a tenor because baritone are more common than tenor it a completely male voice where it is balance between the high and the low tbh idk why people don’t like balance I begin to feel very bored by music now a day because everyone sound like Bieber tone all are tenor
@@saysamnang9851actually it’s not. Very big misconception. Tenor is more common. Most male voices are untrained to sing at the extremes of their voices (as is any untrained voice) so they do most of their singing in midrange. Either that, or they’re trained so well as Tenors to sing big, dark & loud & have excellent chest development, that people automatically assume they’re Baritones b/c they sing big, dark & have solid low notes.
A tenor stopping by to show his appreciation
Same here. We can’t deny the beautiful baritone’s resonance
@@benjaminsotocornejo3653 true
@@benjaminsotocornejo3653 I honestly DIG their full sounding voices
this is a 14 minute video I couldn’t include everyone pls stop asking me where people are!! they’re not here!!
Where is Josh Groban?😁
MrSkinnyJeanz3 great reply!!!
Great video! I gave up singing because i thought baritone was frank Sinatra haha.. Now I know i have work to do
where is salami gomez
When people are sad about them being baritones it gives me a serious cringe... Dude... Chris Cornell, Brent Smith, Frank Sinatra and a lot more... Come on.
It takes a serious vocal training but it's doable...
Scott Hoying!!🔥😍 I also like John Legend, and Michael Buble
I'm a simple human being. I see scott and I click!!!!
Chris Cornell was the ultimate baritone in rock music. He was able to sing really low and really high without losing the color and timbre.
It seems like lyric clasiffications doesn't matter in popular music cause i would classify him as a tenor
Videos about baritones starting with Shawn Mendes and Justin Bieber? Uh hello they are both tenors
I've read that Justin is a light-lyric baritone. Don't know about Shawn, though...
Just a dude passing by Nah Justin is definitely a light lyric tenor, his voice is not weighty or dark the same way baritones are. His voice color is light, bright, has some natural capabilities of benign agile (except that his runs are almost always messy or off key). The same thing goes to Shawn. Both of them are technically underdeveloped tenors
@@thehainote1082 vocal range classification is not about how light your voice is, it's about how high it goes. Bieber's voice is light, but not high enough to be a tenor.
Mike, TheAnimated okay, so is his voice low enough to be a baritone? Absolutely not. Mariah Carey’s range is F2-Bb7. Does that mean she’s a baritone AND a tenor AND a contralto AND a mezzo soprano AND a soprano? Absolutely not. Vocal range does not determine a person’s voice type, tessitura and passagio do. His comfortable range is completely at the tenor range. His vocal range is not high, simply because his technique is underdeveloped and his range is not large. Same thing goes to Shawn Mendes. They are just tenors with undeveloped vocal technique and narrow range.
@@MiketheNerdRanger Wrong. Yes range plays a role but more importantly timbre and tessitura play a role.
Shawn Mendes has zero weightt to his voice above G3. Same for Bieber.
As the above comment says, Mariah Carey who arguably in her prime had one of the best vocal techniques in mainstream music, has a vocal range of Eb2-B7 (studio/live). She was a coloratura soprano (more of an alto now due to nodules) despite being able to vocally support down to D3 and hit F2s easily.
Fuck, I can sing F7s, doesn't make me a soprano. I can sing E2s, doesn't make me a bass or baritone. My voice sounds quite bright so I am classed as a tenor.
At the end of the day, vocal classification is majority of the time unhelpful and pointless. Voices are so random and ranges come in so many different sizes. It would be ridiculous to just classify a voice by what notes they can hit. Speak to any vocal coach, any classical trained vocalist and they will say the same.
Baritones and and Bad Techniques is very different like Shawn and JB they're both tenor and their Technique has a lot of holes you can poke through
Thank you Mr.Skinny for this very clearly presented video! As a voice coach for over 25 years, I've been explaining and coaching Baritones, about mixing their registers, and why this is sooo important. For all singers actually. Your video is excellent intro into the science, training and art of real singing, which I am so passionate about. When students take the time to really train their voices, and not expect overnight results, they realize what they can do, it's so wonderful. Your video makes vocal principles (mix, head/chest, dark and light sounds, etc, fach) from vocal function and Bel Canto fundamentals, very clear....
XD
A lot of them are baritone, like Michael bubble
If you’re a vocal coach for over 25 yrs, you should know some of his/her info is off. Such as classifying Scott Hoying & John Park as baritones when they’re Lyric Tenors for 1.
Seth Macfarlane... the most underrated singer on this list by far! I absolutely love Michae Buble, but Macfarlane is definitely the next Sinatra IMO
I also think Seth is better than Buble at the big band stuff, but Bubles voice is really good at pop material, wich makes him a more versatile singer.
Shawn Mendes and Justin Bieber are both tenor with a bad technique.
I think Shawn is a baritone
Minuka Rodrigo actually i think Shawn is a low-tenor
@@hai965 but he is considerably a baritone according to his singing technique. Neither low like John Legend or high like Zain Malik
@Jonathan Paganini do you mean that both can't sing?
both are baritone to me
I’d like to thank you for making this video I’m a young singer in choir and I was looking for a song to do for a solo project all the songs I found were to high for me but with your video I found new people and songs to sing and inspire me so thank you so much
I’m so surprised that people don’t know about McFarlane. He contributed most of the vocals on Family Guy’s musical numbers through the years.
I saw Scott.. And I clicked.. 😊
seungyoon from winner is a pretty good baritone. in fact, he possess a solid technique and support from Bb2-Eb4-Bb4
As a Verdi/Dramatic Baritone, I absolutely adore my voice.
It's Dark, Rich, Thick, Heavy and I get belt for days. As my voice doesn't harbor much agility at all, the music most appropriate for it is Traditional Pop/Jazz/Classical Music.
My supported range spans G2 - Bb4.
Wow! Dats goos my supported range is G#2/A2-F#4
Scott oh holy night is so resonant!
This video was much needed. Thank you for this. I’ve always struggled with my voice type. I was forced to sing bass in high school because of not enough guys and that gave me the opportunity to extend my range. I ended up switching to tenor my senior year and I’ve realized I’m a baritenor.
Baritones are under appreciated and this video showcases why they should be appreciated more! You gave great examples of many singers. Ex: Michael Bublé is truly magnificent. His voice is like butter. 😍 Scott’s runs though. Ugh. So good! & the true tea is Xtina’s baritone qualities, lmao but honestly her falsetto/head voice speaks for itself as to how she’s a soprano.
One thing I’ve noticed with baritones is that their falsettos are usually more powerful than tenors! Anyways, this video made me proud to be a baritone and I know I’m in good company! :)
Michael Buble is most definitely a tenor.
@@KajiVocals every expert I’ve ehard has classified him as baritone. Why do you say different?
Baritenor is the best voice type for a male actually. You get the lows, the warm and some of the weight of a baritone but your voice is still capable of going up to a tenor C5 from what I've seen. To me baritenor is sort of like the male equivalent of a mezzo-soprano
5:50 "he certainly gives tenors a run for their money!" *includes clip of Brian the Tenor trying*
I personally have always liked being a baritone (specifically saying, dark and warm one). So much versatility comes with this voice type. My range is about from E2 to F2 but can reach very breathy A4 (not falsetto tho). I’m currently developing effortless tone within those two octaves and hope that one day I will be able to show off those vocals like Bubble or Park or even Legend himself^^ Have a nice day fellow baritones♥️
Aleks Jabłoński good luck with your goals. You can do it :)
chest from A2 to A#4 , head idk prolly G5 , am i a baritone ?
Thank you so so much for this video!!! I am myself a baritone (range at my best goes to B1-G#4 & my falsetto are consistently up to E5 but I can go higher on a good day) and I feel like some baritones are pushing too high to sound like tenors to "fit" in the music industry. I think that some natural baritones should respect their limits and their tessitura because they might break their vocal cords If they are always pushing too high, without a good technique. Personnaly, I know my support range/comfort range is F2-Eb4 and I’m making efforts to support up to F4/F#4 because I know I’m capable to and I know I can go higher, like Bb4 or something. I know my strength is my lower register, which is extremely developped and I can go as low as I want, so, I’m always putting some low notes on my covers. However, some male singers are so pushed by the industry that they forgot their comfort zone and they always pushing too high, it is sad actually. :/
Our ranges are quite similar then. I wonder if you have any advices on how to build and expand your connected/supported range because I find my voice to be plagued with multiple problems even in the lower 4th octave. My lower range is quite solid but I know that I must try to develop all parts of my voice if I want to be taken seriously as a singer. :P
Same here! I relate
Walter Velvet Gregson Hi! :) Sorry for the delay to answering you! What really helped me to improve my voice (which is still not perfect at all), is to find your voice. Find your tone, find what is your range and don’t try to push it too hard when you can’t yet. I watched a lot of videos to learn how to improve my head voice and how to mixing properly and they really helped me. 2 years ago, I couldn’t even barely hit a F4 without screaming it because of how "chesty" I was and now, my voice has matured and I can hit it pretty effortlessly. Not supported yet tho hahaha! But to use a connected head voice, practicing a lot to get to know your voice and try to look where your voice is straining and when it’s not will definitely help you to improve your voice! :) Before, my supported range was like A2-B3/C4 and now it’s like F2-Eb4 and I supported some E4 at good moments! When I had this tiny supported range, It’s because I had the tendancy to lower my larynx when I was going down and, as soon as I was belting a bit more higher, I raised my larynx and the sound came from my throat and not from my diaphragm.
@@samueltremblaay I am a baritone too. This videos gives us hope.
Lol, honestly, my baritone (bass) ass really needed this video. I always hated my voice, but I actually am finding some pride it now after this video!
If u are a bass, be proud. Often basses can sing C2 or lower but the general range is that the lowest note need to be E2
@@fredneu7645 C2 in chest is absurd
SCOTT HOYING YASSSSSS 💙💙💙
14 minutes...yes, king
It makes me happy to see this video, I'm a baritone and one day I wanna be a singer
God, I'm so glad that Alejandro Manzano wa sincluded in this, because he is an absolute beast. His delivery can be too cheesy at times, but boy does he have a great voice. Also, since he's been uploading videos for over a decade, you can really see the improvement. From lightly straining on a D4 in "Wherever you will go" to his recent cover of "Never Enough", where he belts G#4s like they're NOTHING.
Imagine saying Charlie Puth is a baritone
Yeah lol
His speaking voice is deep but yeah he’s not a baritone
Imagine saying Justin Bieber is a baritone
@Anonymous User exactly my point
i can sing in the 7th octave and im stilll a baritone....i cant get passed A4 and i dont know how to use mix for the upper register....but ive a developed head voice and falsetto that enables me to hit higher motes....similar to charlie puth
who's underestimating any of these singers?
Many people,not many of us frm the comment section,but its to the world.
The understimating is obvious: weak voice and inexpressive. It is more easy to see in gospel/4 harmony part quartets.... You can't hear baritone voice. Only lead, Bass and tenor.
@@vitormrmr cool
At 13:09 I truly thought you were putting Christina Aguilera on this list and I was ready to GOOOO
SuperPianogirl123 i can’t even
@@memoirsofanimperfectbaritone You know that it makes sense though lol
SuperPianogirl123 Is her supported range that low...? That’s awful...
@@Empyrean.127 I've heard that she is inconsistent as low as E4 tbh
I’m still mad I didn’t take full advantage of this perfect opportunity
John Legend and Michael Buble are some of the sexiest men on earth
I got a weird compliment today at work, a costumer told me I had a really strong baritone voice and asked if I sang, and I told him that I can’t and he said people who say they can’t sing have never tried, I honestly want too try now. Because I love music I just can’t sing 😂
I was always told in choir that singing is 3% talent and 97% technique
Hahaha do it sis. I just joined a choir never sang before at the age of 35. It's been a blast
Thank you so much for this appreciation video of baritone singers! In an age where everyone glorifies male singers' belty high notes, baritones' rich, sweet, and adaptable middling voices surely make the listening experience more refreshing for contemporary listeners. My personal faves are Michael Buble, Josh Tillman (Father John Misty), Chris Cornell, John Legend, and of course the man Frank Sinatra. On a side note, I was wondering if you're interested in checking out the rock music scene a little since there are quite a number of vocalists (both male and female) who can seriously SANG. 😁😍
I’m actually pretty happy to be a bass
Being a bass rules dude, we are the minority, we are special!
I'm a baritone, I can sing down to d2 an go up to f#4 on chest and mix, in falsetto I can go up to g#5
Same
im a tenor and i can only hit g2 on my good day lmao
E2-B4/E5chest and mix and in falsetto I can go up to C6 what would I be considered?
@@renoparker6933 what's your comfortable range?
Andres Vlieg A3-F#4
I think the point is that people are expecting some extent of "excitement" or "wildness" in popular music. You know, people feel excited when they hear male/female singers sing notes that are high and extraordinary. I noticed that a lot of the songs sung by female artists have prominent, high notes (regardless of the natural tone or range of the artists). And I think the same goes for male singers too. A lot of people, record companies and critics jump to the conclusion that printing out songs, which hardly include impressive high notes, are not so profitable and appealing to the mass audience. This kinda makes me upset from time to time as I'm mostly identified as a contralto and to think that it will be difficult to adapt to this demanding market. Really, it goes to the point I feel like I need to intentionally alter my voice 😫
Famouse Baritones: Eddie Vedder, Scott Weyland, Coldplay, Axl Rose, Sinatra, Robbie Williams, Vile Vallo, Crish Cornell, Héroes del Silencio, Axl Rose, RHCP, RATM, Ricky Martín
"Coldplay"
It's Chris Martin dude lmao.
There's also some you didn't mention:
Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons
Dan Smith from Bastille
Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys
Lewis Capaldi
BTS Taehyung
@@lxss_hyuga atlast someone mentioned.
*Sorry, but this video lost me from the beginning;* I don't know much about *Charlie but Justin Bieber & Shawn Mendes are definitely not Baritones* 😂
There's a difference between Baritones and Tenors with faulty technique...
I love that you showcased some great Baritones though eg. Scott, John Legend, Michael Buble etc.
And the *LEGENDARY FRANK SINATRA* ✨
I believe the beginning was just a intro cuz yeah they are tenors
Honest 2 God Knock Me Out they’re not
@@memoirsofanimperfectbaritone wait so they are baritones?
@@arianacareymariahgrande3582 It seems like that's what he's trying to say, but Justin, Charlie & Shawn lack the most important quality that defines *Baritones.*
They're indeed baritones whether you like it or not. Oh well I didn't expect much from you.
Thank U for making this video. Baritones definitely deserve more recognition.
Btw is it just me or do baritones in pop seem to have better musicianship than tenors? I mean some tenors tend to show off range and overuse high notes (to charm ppl with untrained ears maybe? 😂) while baritones focus more on vocal quality and message delivery, which is much more important in music.
Guys, the video starts at 1:17, anything before is part of the intro. That's why they put examples of tenors.
This is SOOO relatable!!!
When I sing Jojo's, Ariana's, Kim Petra's song an octave lower, my voice just doesn't fit. Some notes don't sound that powerful or light, as they sound in the original.
And another problem is that I don't like the style of pop-baritones. I don't wanna sing a sexy-jazz-declaration-of-love, I want high notes, whistle notes, some difficult elements and technique!
If you know baritone-singers (including cover-singers) which sing in that style, please, let me know. I'm so exhausted of searching!
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Low notes are the best ones dude. People are so used to hear high notes, but when they hear a very low note ... It is very shocking and even hypnotizing
Let me tell you something, higher doesn't mean better
You don’t have to sing in the same keys as the original…. Just take the key down till the highest note is comfortable….It may only be a few steps down. The intervals are still the same.
I was a tenor 1 year ago(17) and my vocal range was G#2-E5. Somehow, I suddenly became a baritone. Now my vocal range is C2-C#5 and my low notes are most powerful and voluminous. I am genetically lucky because all of my uncles are Bass-Baritone. I hope I can hit The High C note.
I'm a 17 year old tenor and this is kinda scary 😂
I love Mister Skinny, but his subtitles are the mean of agility.
I have to pause every time.
Alter Dei I really tried this time!! Read it over twice and everything. I’ll keep working at it though
Lmfaooooo i guess try to x2 slowdown your reading
0:56 I SCREAMED
I never expected that Liam would be here! (Even though I know he's a baritone)
My range is C2 - F4(sometimes F#4) - D6
My mix is really chesty i can support F2 - C#4 consistently but i really want to go up there with those easy E4s
Xtina is a.... baritone?
Only a guy can be a baritone Christina is a mezzo soprano
we been knew
What is the term if female singer have a male range/voice i mean there’s a term we called sopranist right? Sorry for my english .
YES!!! SOMEONE ELSE THOUGHT THIS LMAOOOO
queen of baritones
*Sees Scott in the thumbnail*
Me: *clicks*
*Scott parts come up*
Me being the colossal PTX fan: *dies*
Exactly. Watching such kind of videos only because of Pentatonix members is so typical
@@angelinapopovich8372 What can we say? We know they are good so why not watch something you like
Shawn Mendes, Justin Bieber and Charlie Puth are not baritones. They are light lyric tenors.
Charlie Putin is a barítono ligero
Alfonso 1406 no he is a light lyric tenor
Charlie puth is a baritone with an extremely good falsetto mix that sounds weighty.
The other two yeah tenors.
thank you this video is so insane
this video encourage baritones to break their voice !
learnt a lot! thanks so much! you should do more videos on mens vocals as well! It’s easier to understand compared to the women’s videos since mens range is more relatable!
This made me admire John legend in a whole different way
I’ve never in my life heard a Baritone or tenor song. It’s frustrating for me because that’s my vocal range and even guys sing alto or high alto and I can never reach that high
Thank you for this, sincerely, a baritone :)
Some of these are tenors as well
Yeah, quite a lot of them actually.
Can you do a video about Ledisi¿? She is classically trained and her mentor is the Rachelle Ferelle. She has a great mix, agility, headvoice, and good lows. She also has great dynamics and a wide range.
As a baritone, this helped my ideal of myself and what I should try to sound like instead of trying hit Mitch Grassi’s notes and kill my vocal chords.
I got excited with Michael, John and Seth’s voices!! They’re just so beautiful!!!
When Scott is a baritone but sings higher than mitch in sing off and fills in avi/matt’s parts in some songs
He’s amazing❤️❤️🧡🧡💛💛💚💚💙💙💜💜💗💗💕💟💟🥰🥰😍😍🤩🤩
It's when you watch this video only because of Scott
Im here for Scott Hoying lol, but the video was interesing too
same. I saw Scott and clicked lol
Don’t tell the Tenors but Baritones generally have more interesting voice imo
Title: Baritones in pop
Proceeds to show 3 tenors in row right away
Thank you so much for including seth he is so good and not many people know about his music career.
8:05 the fact that he’s just smile-resonating G4 offends me
Hi! Do you now if I'm a bass or baritone?
I can sing down to D#2/D2. When I sing up, my voice sounds like head voice from about E4. Also, I find it easier to sing below the 4th octave(Middle C is somewhat O.K.-ish). Finally, I'm 13 years old.
@@khalilsistrat2899 for now a baritone, even though you are to young to be considered any of both. Give it some time
@@khalilsistrat2899 baritone with a small range, but you'll get there.
Am I a baritone?
A2 - G4
Plss answer me ASAP
@@nomercy1350 I think you may be a baritone, but need some training in the low part, but if you could upload a video singing the notes of your range it may help to.
Can we talk about Elmo tho
The baritone voice's my favorite male voice in the male vocal range. B-)
Used to beat myself up for not being a tenor. As I got older, I learned to value honing the quality, tone and power of my voice.
A tip for frustrated baritones who are singing tenor songs: Change the key of the song. You learn to really love your authentic voice once you sing in a comfortable range.
What I've learned from reading the comments: different people have different opinions about what makes a baritone. It's interesting. Thanks for the vid, and also for the interesting comments and discussions!
love scott sm
Lol John park was my neighbor and friend in middle school and high school then he got famous on American Idol and became too cool. It’s crazy cause we used to just play video games volleyball and basketball together all the time in our shitty apartment complex community. Humble beginnings don’t mean shit.
These guys all sound like tenors apart from Frank. A baritone by definition has to be deeper sounding than the deepest tenor.
I'm a baritone singer for myself and it always felt like a curse not being able to naturally reach these really high notes (last really good note I can hit witch chest voice is the high G). But today I'm pretty happy with the possibility to sing both bass and tenor songs without sounding strange in one way. If I want to cover higher songs I just tune my guitar down a little bit. :-)
Thanks for all those explanations and pop baritones vocals.Gods continued touch in
your soul and life...Carry on I enjoyed it very much.
I salute to all baritones that can g#4 in contemporary and even go to scales of tenors.
As a baritone I can go to tenor range to but it isnt a power instead it’s a falsetto (head tone)
[Update]
I’ve learned to now to develop heady mixed voice so I’m fine
Uh, can you help me? I don't know what a baritone is. I downloaded an app called Vocal Pitch Monitor
My lowest is an E2 sometimes D2 my highest belt is in between A4 and B4 I don't know what that is. I don't know if higher than that is a mixed or a belt, the strain starts when I attempt to belt a C5 and above. My whisperish voice or head voice idk can reach A5. I dont know if whistles counts lol but i can sustain it for 5 seconds at like G6 or something. Is that good or bad
That’s the same thing with me, I can reach tenor range but in head voice lol
you can always train your voice to have wider range no matter what type of vocal range you have
ShiftyClouds woah sorry for late reply! I use heady mix to hit the highs tho I really wished I could do a balanced mix but as of now God gave me a voice whose capability is in heady mix tho the compromise is power on the middle notes when you do riffs and runs from low to high or versa, well development of strong heady mix in middle range is not an overnight learning. Im so glad you still have that wide range I already lost my whistle last year on dec and my voice changed having darker tone my range now is G2 up to G5 I lost my 6th octave range and as a person who grew from ariana grande, mariah carey female artists, having no 6th octaves kinda frustrated me but now I’ve learned to love my range and utilize it 😁
Fildza Finn agreed. I wish i could retrain my higher range i had a phase of wanting deep voice and hitting the notes hit by Avi Kaplan during 7th to 8th grade prior to that I was a fan of charlie puth ariana and mariah (basically high noters)
what’s the song by Frank Sinatra ?
I am a baritone and my range is G#2-eb4-C5
Sounds like a bass?
Get The Fuck Out not low enough for that
Get The Fuck Out no
Same but its f2 - eb4 - G#5... Its pretty similar tho. I just wish i could support up to G#4 in mixed
i believe you could go higher than C5 with your falsetto/head voice
i adore michael bublé's voice so much
We need vids about HEAD VOICE king!!
This is the male version of mezzo sopranos but smoother.
I COULD CRY
*Kim Taehyung has entered the Baritone group chat* . All these amazing baritones.😍😍😍 I love this. Baritone vocals are beautiful and really underappreciated. Thank you for making this 😊
Fandom & Bias Wars be DUMB cuz they all AWESOME I really love his voice as it’s one of my favorite voices overall (woo-hoo proud Tae stan! 🤗💜), but technically he has a lot of work to do: he has a lot of potential in his lower range, but it’s not as developed as it should be-it’s quite underdeveloped and undertrained for a baritone (can only support down to a C3), and he has his set of bad habits as well: his lowered larynx which can make him pitchy at times and tongue tension due to this weird tongue habit that he developed recently. Other than that, he’s the only one in BTS who has a grasp more or less on the basics of singing within his own range (he has a limited and shallow but more or less established support for instance) right, and his middle and upper range is alright in terms of development relatively (I think their vocal coach whoever he/she is focused a lot more on their upper ranges with falsettos than any part of their voices so that’s why their falsettos sound nice compared to other vocalists but they’re technically not impressive). He has so much untapped potential and as a hardcore Tae stan, I really want to get his potential unleashed, but not sure if it’s really going to happen or not, because sometimes the way that Big*hit treats him is unethically questionable or not the best, and that what makes me mad.
@@KittyTsundere I agree with you so much. T Truth be told,I'm a whole dumbass with this musical technicality stuff. Tae is my bias too...and I absolutely love his voice but I always felt like there's so much more to it..like it has not reached its full potential,so I totally get what you mean. Idk if its only me ..but there are just these little moments here and there that you notice just how great his voice is -I can't pinpoint a moment exactly-but like him singing in a run episode or in the bg somewhere...idk if that makes sense?😅 I want Tae to unleash his potential.I want all of them to.. With all that money Bighit is making these days wonder,why they don't hire A GOOD vocal coach to bring out the best in them? I do have another question, i often feel like vocally Tae is kinda similar (he could be,I'd he really tapped into it) like Brendon Urie from Panic! at the disco....like idk I feel like they both have an amazing vocal range,the most notable difference being Brendon knows it and uses it well and Tae has not....and they are both similar as well.. Idk if you know Panic? But If you do , would you agree? Anyways thanks so much for explaining,I really do appreciate it and I learned something😊
Thank you! Ive been a bass sense 7th grade and Ive been turned down so much do to so many stereotypes thank god someone finally said something!
Taehyung is also baritone
Justin Bieber is a tenor ,
John legend is a baritone
Boyce Avenue is a tenor
Hwanhee is a baritone
Michael Buble is a high baritone or a low tenor
Scott Hoying could go either way but he is likely a low tenor. He has depth in his upper register and the only low note was a super pushed down larynx
The next John is a real baritone
Seth Mcfarlane is an Incredible baritone singer on the lower end of the baritone range.
I think Scott is a light lyric baritone, although he does sing a lot in tenor range. If you want to hear Scott really go low, I recommend Pentatonix's cover of The Sound of Silence, or during Hallelujah, when bass singer (Avi/Matt) is singing the lead, Scott will cover the bass line, for most new Pentatonix fans, it's hard for them to tell the difference between the bass line switch. His low notes are pretty resonance and his comfortable range is quite low for tenor.
"Dont underrate baritones". Proceeds to show singers that arent baritones lmao
They're all baritones. IDK what you're talking about.
@@knightenchanter7908 mind you,they arent. Maybe YOU dont know what you're talkin about.
The video showed Justin Bieber. Bieber isnt a baritone. If you're gunna talk music,know what you're talking about. The same goes for Shawn Mendes. Theres a difference between being bad and trying to designate their range as singers.
@@TheRoyalHour John Legend is definitely a baritone
@@pinedar21 you named one guy. I never stated that none of the singers were baritones. Go ahead and read my reply to the last guy. Should help 🤷🏾♂️
That's why I'm so happy that even I can't sing my favorite songs since it's for tenors i still like being baritone since baritones can sing both high and low notes, I'm still working on my mixed voice
As a baritone I think that the reason why we are underestimated is that we have the most boring ranges. My vocal range is D2-G4-D5, it depends of the day though.
Sometimes I can go lower, one time I hit a B1 due to my voice being really husky and tired. The top of my belting range is pretty much F#4 or G5 every day, although as I've never been trained, I tend to get VERY bad around D4 (my larynx flies to the stratosphere and I get too tense to sing comfortably). As for my falsetto and head voice I only have to say that I once was really proud of this part of my voice. Not so long ago I could hit really high notes (I could reach the 6th octave in falsetto pretty comfortably), I had never had a problem using my falsetto and my head voice was pretty too... But as I started to get more into belting and to give more importance to my chest voice my range almost disappeared. It seems like I forgot how I did it, but now every time I get to the 5th octave I start to get tensed (and my larynx again tries to fly away from my neck), really sad because I believe it was the strongest part of my voice, and now I barely use it. Well, this was a long ass text and I'm sure that no one cares, but if any other baritone out there that had the same problems as me wants to give me some advise I would greatly appreciate it.
Which buzzfeed article that defines “baritone” did you read