8:35 and that scream is by far, the second best noise to ever come out of a Loki, right behind that tiny, teeny whimper, as he was laying there in his crater after the "Puny God" incident
Spot on! Never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right. I thought that Hulk smashed whimper was hilarious the firstr time I heard it and it still makes me giggle no matter how many times I've seen The Avengers by now.
You can be a narcissist and still hate yourself, the main points are that you believe yourself to be the most important person in any given situation and that bad things that happen to you are caused by external factors rather than considering they might be because of your own actions.
@@jaysax7381 narcissism noun nar·cis·sism ˈnär-sə-ˌsi-zəm Synonyms of narcissism 1 : egoism, egocentrism … up until my late 30's I lived in a state of utterly monstrous narcissism and self-absorption … -Frank Conroy 2 : narcissistic personality disorder One of the premier diagnoses of our times, narcissism is a reflection not only of an apparent trend in mental illness but also of the strains and distortions in the lives of essentially healthy people. -Robert Karen 3 : love of or sexual desire of one's own body
Season 2 is the best Marvel storytelling in awhile. It's stupendous. the character development is unparalleled. It answers so many questions. Can't wait to watch your react videos to it.
The rare occurrence where season two makes season 1 better. Together they’re some of the best things marvel has done. -I was not in on season 1. It was good but I didn’t love it but put it together and it’s a great story
I swear they're hiding the fact that Alfonso Cuaron secretly directed all of Loki Season 2, lol. It was cinematically stunning and narratively mind-bending, and never lets up momentum. One of the greatest seasons of TV in recent memory
Actually, you got lots of answers: Are Loki & Sylvie siblings or the same person? Same person, confirmed. Who is the "Man behind the curtain" ala Wizard of Oz? "He Who Remains" Who is in charge? "He Who Remains" Does pruning destroy people/things? No, it sends them to the void at the end of time, so they can come back (ala Mobius & Loki), can survive there indefinitely (all the Lokis, Mobius, Throg in a Jar), or potentially be consumed by a living cloud of entropy. Will Loki & Sylvie kiss? Yes Is Ravonna Renslayer in charge? Sort of, her other life is as a principal, and she is high up in the TVA, but she still gets info from Miss Minutes & still gets orders from above. What happened to Hunter B-15? Locked away, but gets free. What happens if Sylvie stabs "He Who Remains"? The Sacred Timeline frays and branches. See, questions answered... however, every answer is replaced with many branching questions... how very appropriate for a series about maintaining a single focus and preventing a branching tree of knowledge & infinite possibilities.
@@BYERE Sorry to hear. I personally don't think it's that bad, but it IS more focused on setting up Daredevil than telling its own thing, which is a problem
If I am not mistaken, loki season two is not dependent on anything that was aired in between. The only reason to wait with it, is because its an awesome ending.
There is the connection to Ant-Man and the Wasp - Quantumania in the form of Kang the Conqueror, and the the post credit scene featuring Loki, Mobius and The Kang variant Victor Timely.
It's quite fun and interesting to see Ashleigh, someone who doesn't really have much experience with time travel or multiverse stories, wrap her head around Loki which is on the slightly more complicated side. Really enjoyed the reaction.
"Is that his outfit from the comic books ?" Yes, or at least from the older ones. It took comic book writers a long time to realize that people sometimes change their clothes; they still haven't figured out about laundry.
To be fair, back in the day it was dot matrix limited coloration on cheap newsprint. Without very noticeable identifiers (Nick Fury’s eyepatch, J Jonah’s mustache) you couldn’t really tell the characters apart without the costumes.
He Who Remains is a variant of a character called Kang the Conqueror. As he explained that there’s many more of himself. This is was the variant that was able to conquer the other versions at least in this time line. This sort of means that what happened in the first part of the MCU was an altered universe which means that what happened was meant to happen according to He Who Remains. It was to keep the other versions of himself from defeating him or some other characters that weren’t present in the MCU such as the Fantastic Four or the X-men. We know in reality that Marvel was not able to use these characters but now they can use them instead of rebooting them it’s more convenient to say that they were not allowed to exist in the altered universe because they could have possibly defeated He Who Remains and restored the universe possibly allowing a different version of Kang to conquer the universe.
And this is how they also explain Captain America going back in time although they said in End Game that was not possible. It's not but they didn't know there was a single timeline. It also explains why Steve didn't prevent any of the things he knew would happen. Everytime he tried he was pruned by the TVA. I really liked Loki for correcting the MCU mistakes and give them an in-world explanation.
Slightly more simply put, He Who Remains wrote and micro-managed the "Sacred" timeline, pruning branches so that no other varient of him ever exists. He won the Multiversal War by default, removing all the other players before they could sit at the table. With him not longer controlling the timeline, all those varients pop into being, starting the Multiversal War all over again.
HI. Ashleigh. I'm. Glad. You like season one of. Loki I know you will love ❤️ season2. And its. Better. You think I know. That it. Can. Be. Can fusing how. Timeliness. Work. But. If. You. Keep. Watching. The. Show. You. Probably understand it. If. Not. Ask. Me. Shawn. Walker
I am glad that you are sticking with release order. I agree that that's the right thing to do in the long run but I would definitely recommend in your own spare time that you re-watch at least this last episode before you watch season 2 when you finally get to it because it picks up right where this one left off
Nathaniel Richards lived in the 31st century. He discovered the long-lost Space-Time Platform invented by the most dangerous man who ever lived, Doctor Doom. With it, Nathaniel Richards traveled through time, and if you've seen ENDGAME and the final episode of LOKI se01, then you realize "traveled through time" = "traveled to other universes" in the Multiverse. As he did, transtemporal variants of himself were created. This is where the Dynasty of Kangs originated. The Kangs are, more or less, wicked variants of Nathaniel Richards (Kang-Prime). It is the Kangs who collapse their dynasty or council, and wage a Multiversal War, killing each other, and wiping out entire timelines/universes. The one that wins it all, the ultimate Kang the Conqueror, becomes "He-Who-Remains." Nathaniel Richards is the 31st-century descendant of REED Richards/Mister Fantastic, leader of the Fantastic Four, and archrival of Doctor Victor Von Doom, the most dangerous man who ever lived and inventor of the Space-Time Platform without which there would be no Kangs. Reed and Doom lived in the 1960s. Went to college together in the late 30s, early 40s. They were two of the most brilliant human beings ever to live. The reason for introducing the Kangs is to introduce us to the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom.
"what is grief, if not love persevering" - Speaking of, Vision also got his own series announced, so I guess we'll finally find how where White Vision went!
I love the scene of Loki and Sylvie on the hilltop. 2 extremely powerful beings who have never had the "feelings" for someone before being incredibly awkward. Its adorable
The last 2 episodes were great this season. Episode 5 with all the easter eggs in the background like the Thanos Helicopter and the Living Tribunal head. Then there was, Nathanial, the could have been turn out for the Marvel plans.
@@LiMe251 What If, Multiverse of Madness, Quantumania, and No Way Home don't totally make sense unless they are after Loki season 2. I can't say why without spoilers though. Only the Loki S2 last TVA scene had to have been after those movies.
@@joeblankenship377 That’s true, however I can’t think of anything in season 2 that would be a spoiler for any other phase 4 movie or show. Unless there’s something I’ve missed.
"Oh my God, I have such a headache!" Exactly how all the rest of us felt, Ash. You're in good company. There is so much more story to tell in season 2. And I'm not on Patreon, so I'll cast my vote here: Please, please, please continue with the MCU! I've enjoyed your reactions to this franchise so much, and I can't wait to see more.
As other people of mentioned you can just watch the newest Ant Man and then watch Loki season 2. The story is pretty self contained. This villain was going to be the big bad for for the next set of phases but he messed up some things in his real life and Marvel dropped him. Loki season 2 is worth "going out of order" for.
What you need to understand Ashleigh, is Sylvia is the equivalent of Loki on her timeline but while each version of a person in different universes based on alternate timelines and such is the same person, they can also be their own unique individual selves. It’s said we are a product of our environment. This is true also of our experiences. Changes of the timeline mean things are subtly or not so subtly different and that means we can end up with different memories and a different personality. I’d argue that makes us different people to our alternate timeline equivalents. So when Loki kisses Sylvie, it’s the same personas him but different (I mean very obviously so, born a woman in her timeline not to mention all the other differences in her life etc). If it’d been a Loki much more similar to him then it would’ve been more weird. Probably best not to think about just like trying to think about the ultimate nature and meaning of the universe ain’t useful to the old noggin.
What I love about the confrontation at the end. Sylvie does the heroic thing - risk it all on free will and the hope of something better - for villainous reasons and revenge. Loki does the villainous thing - try to manage the cosmic tyranny for good - specifically because of his character development and new sense of responsibility.
The Loki Gator taking Pres Lokis hand is a call back Easter egg to the fact that Tom Hiddleston did the voice of “James” Hook in Fairy Pirates movie of Tinkerbelle and the Croc was unable to get Hooks hand at the time. So this was unfinished business since all Hook actors need their hand cut off and fed to the Croc or in this case Gator. With his reaction I can’t help but wonder if Loki thought later, dang I taste good.
One of the central themes of the Loki series is how even though they are the same being on the timeline, the Loki variants turn out very different. The Lamentis-1 episode spent a great deal of time showing how little Loki and Sylvie actually had in common. I don't know what it means when you love someone who is so different from you, but it wouldn't be narcissism.
Yes. We got one episode per week, coming out on Disney+ every... Thursday, I think. So, consider yourself lucky that you're getting to just binge straight through this, while the rest of us got left with a week-long gap to process each cliffhanger. Even for Loki season 2, it was cliffhangers every week, and... count yourself LUCKY that you'll be able to watch THAT one in one go. I'm just sad that it's going to be a good while before you get to Loki season 2. Knowing what happens there, so many of the things you said in this episode gave me a good laugh XD And I don't mean that to be unpleasant. More... hindsight is a real bitch with this. But... you'll find out about that. Also, Jonathan Majors was the actor they set up to play the next big-bad of the MCU. However, with his recent trial and conviction, Marvel has dropped him HARD. So, they're having to figure out what to do with all of this now. Still, I LOVE the character development that we have seen from Loki through this show. Yes, he's the god of mischief... but like his brother told him... he can be so much more than that. Working toward that goal... now, I don't know about you, but that sounds like a pretty darn glorious purpose to me. THOUGH! If you wanted to fast-track a little bit, you could jump straight to Quantumania and then to Season 2... just saying.
Loving this. Thanks Ashleigh! And as it's been pointed out in the comments, season 2 doesn't rely on other Marvel movies or programs. So technically, it can be watched right away. But you do you, ma'am.
Donald Sutherland just passed. Here are some of his best: "Kelly's Heroes" (1970) "The Dirty Dozen" (1967) "Backdraft" (1991) directed by Ron Howard. Music by Hans Zimmer "The Italian Job" (2003 remake) "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" (1992 original movie) "Space Cowboys" (2000) directed by Clint Eastwood "The Eagle Has Landed" (1976) "Hollowpoint" (1996) "Outbreak" (1995) "Start the Revolution Without Me" (1970)
Yes, that's his first outfit from the comic books. And he was the first villain that the Avengers faced, like the movie. (Though it was different Avengers, like the Wasp and Hank Pym)
There was a big buzz around who was in the castle at the end of time. Is it Dr. Doom? Is it Mr. Fantastic? I can’t recall completely, but I think the reveal of it being a Kang variant was a bit disappointing. Fun fact: Remember Loki is a frost giant. So he didn’t need a blanket for him AND Sylvie. All just flirting.
Classic Loki is heavily implied to just be what happened to the Loki we saw “die” in Infinity War. Meaning his big Ride Of The Valkyries scene, recreating Asgard out of light, was the final act in that character arc.
Yes 'Classic Loki' is wearing the outfit he originally wore in the comic books when he brought The Avengers together (by being something that no hero could defeat alone). Classic comic book Loki was also drawn to be ugly but that was obviously too much to ask.
Episode 5 was an Easter Egg fest. Polybius, the mythical videogame. The Thanos copter that he used to have in the comics, “Throg,” and of course, they’ve been drinking Josta soda all season. I miss that stuff from the 90s. And lots more Easter Eggs too.
For us real time watchers of Loki, yes, it was week to week, though I think in season 2 we got two episodes on release day. Also, we had to wait two and a half years between seasons, don't worry, you'll make it. We did!!! LoL! Love your reactions as always!
From the First Thor movie to the end of season 2 of loki makes Loki's character act arguable the best or at least in the top three Character arcs in the MCU
At the time of the original airing of Loki Season 1, the cast for Antman: Quantumania had already been announced at least one year prior, and it included Jonathan Majors as "Kang The Conqueror", a great actor who everyone said was going to do great things in the MCU (all before his falling out of grace recently with his legal woes). Jonathan Majors showing up FIRST in the last episode of Loki Season 1 was a HUGE thing for fans, because it was expected he would make his MCU debut in the upcoming Antman movie. Majors still got to appear in Antman: Quantumania (as Kang) and got to film Loki Season 2 (incredible series) before finally getting dropped by Disney/Marvel, leaving the upcoming "Avengers 5: Kang Dynasty" film in limbo (do they recast Kang with another actor, do they scrap that villain and go for someone else, etc.)
All episodes were released on a weekly basis. It was the perfect choice. It gave us time to contemplate and absorb the information. (Edit) You can watch all seasons back to back. Remember this takes place outside of the MCU timeline so it is not dependent on or connected to anything else.
26:01 If you play the finale of WandaVision simultaneously with this finale, He Who Remains’ expression changes just as Wanda changes into the Scarlet Witch. So it’s implied that Wanda unleashed the chaos that stops him from seeing this future, which allows Sylvie to kill him, which opens up the Multiverse. (Which is why you shouldn’t watch “What If?” until you watch this.)
Yes, Classic Loki is wearing a version of Loki's classic comicbook costume. He's essentially wearing a version of First Appearance Loki's costume, but with the addition of a cape, and without the ponytail coming out of the top of his helmet.
Just mentioning WE had to wait almost 2 years from Season 1 until 2, so feel the frustration. Season 1 did answer most of the questions, just opened up a new set of them. The big thing of this is now the Multi verse just became a reality, which begins affecting all our remaining characters.
Richard E Grant plays "Classic Loki", whose entire look comes straight out of the 1960s Marvel comics 🤣 also you missed "Frog Thor" in a jar underground 🤣
i personally like to look at the Multiverse as a a forest. Each Universe a single Tree within a large endless forest. Each tree having their own branches, alternate timelines. Summed up: Forest - *Multiverse* Tree - *Universe* Branches - *Timelines* The MCU we've been following since Iron Man (2008) is one of these trees. it has branches that we see highlighted in Endgame and Loki. Alternate histories that give birth to branched timelines or people simply interfering with past events like the Avengers in Endgame. Another tree in this massive forest (multiverse ) would be the Fox X-Men films. They exist within their own tree with alternate timelines as well. Both MCU and Fox films connected by being in the same forest but divided by separate trees. If a tree's branches are left unchecked they could overlap and clash with neighbouring tree's causing mayhem and who knows what. The Sacred Timeline was simply the term designated to the collection of realities that were isolated after the Multiversal War with the MCU being the mainline Timeline of which everything else branched off from. Keeping them "save" from his variants who existed outside of the Sacred Timeline with the final events of Loki opening up the Multiverse once again. Pretty much by having an isolated timeline He Who Remains could make sure his variants never rise to power.
All of time is options, frequently just yes/no... starting with does the big bang happen... you are close, the multiverse is a single organism forest... all the trees began from a single point, and while above ground the trees seem seperate, they all in fact stem from deep below the surface having a single point of origin, the trees further out from the origin point, the "younger" trees are the ones that took longer to say "Yes" to the big bang, ergo they didn't start to sprout as soon as others... now, while on the surface, the trees can have similarities (names are the same, similar life events) at the core they are different (Medieval Theme Avengers & X-Men vs Nazi Rule vs Zombie vs Animal vs Dinosaur vs Apes vs Cartoonish vs DC vs Amalgam vs Prime)
@@TxSonofLiberty Both of you are so close and are almost right however you've missed what the sacred timeline is made up of. Everyone does! At the begin of the episode, you see the two timelines that make it up. the MCU and ours!! you hear comments from both as it zooms out and then in. Including music and Greta's speech from our universe and Vision's line about love from the MCU.
Classic Loki is indeed wearing the garb of Marvel Comics Loki as designed by artist Jack "The King" Kirby. 😅 It's funny you mention a frog...in the comics Loki changed Thor into Throg the Frog of Thunder. Courtesy of writer/artist Walt Simonson. The Mighty Thor vol. 1 #365 March 1986 😂 The statue at the end wasn't He Who Remains. It is a much more powerful variant. One who conquered his own timeline and now seeks to conquer all timelines. 😮
I did a Dad Bod Loki the Halloween after this first series, complete with Loki Crocks. It was so easy to do and makes such a fun costume when you can do so pretty much anything as a Loki Variant.
You can start Loki 2 when you like, in the timeline this happens outside of time before/during Doctor Strange and Ant-man so watching Loki 2 won't really give you any spoilers At least nothing you will understand till it happens in the movie.
Some Lokis are versions of Loki, but some Lokis are so different that they're basically completely different characters. Like Old Loki is essentially the same Loki, but the only difference is that he survived Thanos and got old. Sylvie was born different and lived a totally different life. She's essentially a totally different character. She just shares some common background up until like the age of 10.
You absolutely CAN start Season Two! The TVA and anyone related to it all kinda exist outside of time. Or, at like every time at once, or at no specific time at all. It's complicated.
RIP for Donald Sutherland I was going to watch Kelly's Heroes the weekend of the 4th. I'm going to throw it in tonight. No negative waves, we're all about the Positive Waves Oddball.
In July, let's get some French movies (Amelie, La Femme Nikita, Love Me If You Dare (Jeux D'Enfants), City of Lost Children ...) for Bastille Day 7/14 & the Paris Olympics 7/26-8/11.
Nice reaction Ashleigh, the best part: Your comments at the end. Can't wait for your next Marvel reactions, woooo! Please continue watching all the James Bond films in order.
Ashleigh it's ok of you. you can fix that need for Loki season 2 right away. We had season 1 come out Jun-Jul 2021 then due to Covid messing things up. We had to wait until Oct-Nov 2023 to get the rest of that story... for now.
Since Disney owns Marvel, there's a blink and you miss it Toy Story Easter egg in this first episode. One of the background cars in the void is a pizza delivery car from Pizza Planet.
Hey Ashleigh! Love your content! Keep it up. Honestly, whenever I'm having a bad day, your content puts me in a good mood every time, so thank you for that. It's always a great feeling whenever I find a fellow movie buff, that appreciate not only the entertainment value, but the joy it brings with every showing. Again, thanks for always being there
You have questions, we have... more things to cause more questions. :) We got 1 episode per week. BUT, my hubby and I waited until they were all out and binged them.. so the waiting was agony! That was hilarious... So this is where this ep-- DAMN IT!!! Why can't you start season 2? Let's gooooooo
Funny that you bring up Doctor Who - the older Loki variant, Richard E Grant has played a version of the Doctor. Also brilliant in Withnail and I, alongside Paul McGann, who played another version of the Doctor. As he would put it - wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff.
When these shows come out, they usually do a two-episode "event", then release the rest an episode every week. So each season/series unfolds over two-three months if it's not binged.
Fun fact - If you sync up the final episodes of Wandavision and Loki season 1 the moment Wanda becomes Scarlett Witch is the moment He who remains says "We just crossed the threshold". Indicating that the creation of Scarlett Witch injected pure Choas into the timeline and started us down the path to the multiverse saga!
Hey, we were ALSO very impatient about Season 2, we had to wait like 3 fucking years for it. Half of COVID happened after season1 and before season 2! 😂😂🤣🤣 Glad you're so excited to continue. 😎
I would almost feel bad for you, except when the first season ended for us we had even longer to wait till season 2. But glad you are motivated to stay in it. What If Season 1 is good and there is a tie in with something that will be happening in one of the movies so it is worth a watch for sure. There is a lot to power through, but hang with it. You are doing great!
You could definitely jump right into season 2. Sure a lot of marvel came out in between but the series is self contained. Plus it MIGHT be important to be caught up on Loki before you see Deadpool & Wolverine. Also you have to see "Logan" before "Deadpool 2". In a perfect world you would watch them back to back.
When Ash said she got a headache thinking about timeline, I got a sudden urge to wanna tell her to watch Dark lol Season 2 is an amazing season. Im glad I enjoy every MCU phase 4 & 5 so it's not a terrible wait
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Vintage Loki is the MVP.
Richard E. Grant is a great actor, and he played OG Loki so well.
Agree wholeheartedly!
@@jculver1674 GLORIOUS PURPOSE!
Classic Loki is Best Loki.
BEST CASTING EVER!!!
"I can't watch it yet!!"
And now you know how the rest of us who watched it all as it came out felt...
For two frickin' years and three months!
Along with watching all the theory videos and comic references and rabbit holes...
@@ETwin999 ooooh yeah! That was more than half the fun of it!
8:35 and that scream is by far, the second best noise to ever come out of a Loki, right behind that tiny, teeny whimper, as he was laying there in his crater after the "Puny God" incident
Spot on! Never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right. I thought that Hulk smashed whimper was hilarious the firstr time I heard it and it still makes me giggle no matter how many times I've seen The Avengers by now.
That scream cracks me up every time. 😂
I will also add: “Ta-daaa!”
"You can't be in love with yourself, I'm pretty sure."
Yes you can, it's called narcissism.
You can be a narcissist and still hate yourself, the main points are that you believe yourself to be the most important person in any given situation and that bad things that happen to you are caused by external factors rather than considering they might be because of your own actions.
That’s kind of an oversimplification,narcissism as a behavior isn’t just “being in love with yourself”.
@@jaysax7381 narcissism
noun
nar·cis·sism ˈnär-sə-ˌsi-zəm
Synonyms of narcissism
1
: egoism, egocentrism
… up until my late 30's I lived in a state of utterly monstrous narcissism and self-absorption …
-Frank Conroy
2
: narcissistic personality disorder
One of the premier diagnoses of our times, narcissism is a reflection not only of an apparent trend in mental illness but also of the strains and distortions in the lives of essentially healthy people.
-Robert Karen
3
: love of or sexual desire of one's own body
Season 2 is the best Marvel storytelling in awhile. It's stupendous. the character development is unparalleled. It answers so many questions. Can't wait to watch your react videos to it.
Loki Season 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy 3 are the only things the MCU has produced lately that give me any hope for future phases.
@@jculver1674 X-Men '97
The rare occurrence where season two makes season 1 better. Together they’re some of the best things marvel has done.
-I was not in on season 1. It was good but I didn’t love it but put it together and it’s a great story
I swear they're hiding the fact that Alfonso Cuaron secretly directed all of Loki Season 2, lol. It was cinematically stunning and narratively mind-bending, and never lets up momentum. One of the greatest seasons of TV in recent memory
Werewolf By Night was pretty spectacular.
Actually, you got lots of answers:
Are Loki & Sylvie siblings or the same person? Same person, confirmed.
Who is the "Man behind the curtain" ala Wizard of Oz? "He Who Remains"
Who is in charge? "He Who Remains"
Does pruning destroy people/things? No, it sends them to the void at the end of time, so they can come back (ala Mobius & Loki), can survive there indefinitely (all the Lokis, Mobius, Throg in a Jar), or potentially be consumed by a living cloud of entropy.
Will Loki & Sylvie kiss? Yes
Is Ravonna Renslayer in charge? Sort of, her other life is as a principal, and she is high up in the TVA, but she still gets info from Miss Minutes & still gets orders from above.
What happened to Hunter B-15? Locked away, but gets free.
What happens if Sylvie stabs "He Who Remains"? The Sacred Timeline frays and branches.
See, questions answered... however, every answer is replaced with many branching questions... how very appropriate for a series about maintaining a single focus and preventing a branching tree of knowledge & infinite possibilities.
OG Loki went out as a hero!
In our final moments, we show who we truly are and what we are capable of.
Glorious Purpose
Disney+ airs episodes once a week, or sometimes 2 episodes for a premiere. Full season drops are usually more of a Netflix thing
And the only time they season dropped an MCU project was Echo... and it's also the only series they've made that I couldn't finish watching...
@@BYERE Sorry to hear. I personally don't think it's that bad, but it IS more focused on setting up Daredevil than telling its own thing, which is a problem
@@EditDeath And _that's_ why it was a full season drop; to connect it with the Netflix shows.
@@CaptHayfever ...That makes way too much sense
Exactly right, Classic is the Loki who fought the comic Avengers for decades. He was an awesome, scheming, crazy villain
If I am not mistaken, loki season two is not dependent on anything that was aired in between.
The only reason to wait with it, is because its an awesome ending.
Yeah, I guess you could make an argument for watching Quantumania in between but it would be a bad argument.
Loki S2 has one of the best endings EVER!
@@kellymoses8566 Agreed. That reminds me that she should definitely watch season 2 of What If? after season 2 of Loki. That would be the only spoiler.
There is the connection to Ant-Man and the Wasp - Quantumania in the form of Kang the Conqueror, and the the post credit scene featuring Loki, Mobius and The Kang variant Victor Timely.
@@mrvoltar She's going as close to release order as her movie-TV staggering can get, so the sequences of the seasons are not going to be a problem.
It's quite fun and interesting to see Ashleigh, someone who doesn't really have much experience with time travel or multiverse stories, wrap her head around Loki which is on the slightly more complicated side. Really enjoyed the reaction.
Meanwhile other reactors that had 3 plus people. Couldnt combine braincells to figure out something basic as that 😂.
She's smarter than the average reactor. A veteran beyond her years.
I'm waiting to see her wrap her brain around season 2 lol
Thor's hammer.. therei is a Throg, (Frog Thor) trapped there
The birds have heads, they don't have necks!!
I get it
"Is that his outfit from the comic books ?"
Yes, or at least from the older ones. It took comic book writers a long time to realize that people sometimes change their clothes; they still haven't figured out about laundry.
To be fair, back in the day it was dot matrix limited coloration on cheap newsprint. Without very noticeable identifiers (Nick Fury’s eyepatch, J Jonah’s mustache) you couldn’t really tell the characters apart without the costumes.
Peter Parker knew about laundry ... 😂
Now this is how to start a birthday...Chocolate cake, Ashleigh and Loki!
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁 🎊
Absolutely. And Happy Birthday.
Happy birthday! 🎉
Happy birthday!
He Who Remains is a variant of a character called Kang the Conqueror. As he explained that there’s many more of himself. This is was the variant that was able to conquer the other versions at least in this time line. This sort of means that what happened in the first part of the MCU was an altered universe which means that what happened was meant to happen according to He Who Remains. It was to keep the other versions of himself from defeating him or some other characters that weren’t present in the MCU such as the Fantastic Four or the X-men. We know in reality that Marvel was not able to use these characters but now they can use them instead of rebooting them it’s more convenient to say that they were not allowed to exist in the altered universe because they could have possibly defeated He Who Remains and restored the universe possibly allowing a different version of Kang to conquer the universe.
And this is how they also explain Captain America going back in time although they said in End Game that was not possible. It's not but they didn't know there was a single timeline. It also explains why Steve didn't prevent any of the things he knew would happen. Everytime he tried he was pruned by the TVA. I really liked Loki for correcting the MCU mistakes and give them an in-world explanation.
Slightly more simply put, He Who Remains wrote and micro-managed the "Sacred" timeline, pruning branches so that no other varient of him ever exists. He won the Multiversal War by default, removing all the other players before they could sit at the table.
With him not longer controlling the timeline, all those varients pop into being, starting the Multiversal War all over again.
HI. Ashleigh. I'm. Glad. You like season one of. Loki I know you will love ❤️ season2. And its. Better. You think I know. That it. Can. Be. Can fusing how. Timeliness. Work. But. If. You. Keep. Watching. The. Show. You. Probably understand it. If. Not. Ask. Me. Shawn. Walker
I am glad that you are sticking with release order. I agree that that's the right thing to do in the long run but I would definitely recommend in your own spare time that you re-watch at least this last episode before you watch season 2 when you finally get to it because it picks up right where this one left off
Self love at its finest.
Also yeah Season 2 is amazing.
Nathaniel Richards lived in the 31st century. He discovered the long-lost Space-Time Platform invented by the most dangerous man who ever lived, Doctor Doom. With it, Nathaniel Richards traveled through time, and if you've seen ENDGAME and the final episode of LOKI se01, then you realize "traveled through time" = "traveled to other universes" in the Multiverse. As he did, transtemporal variants of himself were created. This is where the Dynasty of Kangs originated. The Kangs are, more or less, wicked variants of Nathaniel Richards (Kang-Prime).
It is the Kangs who collapse their dynasty or council, and wage a Multiversal War, killing each other, and wiping out entire timelines/universes. The one that wins it all, the ultimate Kang the Conqueror, becomes "He-Who-Remains."
Nathaniel Richards is the 31st-century descendant of REED Richards/Mister Fantastic, leader of the Fantastic Four, and archrival of Doctor Victor Von Doom, the most dangerous man who ever lived and inventor of the Space-Time Platform without which there would be no Kangs. Reed and Doom lived in the 1960s. Went to college together in the late 30s, early 40s. They were two of the most brilliant human beings ever to live.
The reason for introducing the Kangs is to introduce us to the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom.
Kang is a descendant of both Reed and Doom.
"what is grief, if not love persevering" - Speaking of, Vision also got his own series announced, so I guess we'll finally find how where White Vision went!
At this point, I don't really care where he went.
I finally realized what "Loki"'s theme song reminds me of...it reminds me of the title music from "Time Bandits".
"Oh my God, I have a headache!" has never more accurately summed up the Marvelverse 😂😂
i've been binging all your content, it's soooooo good gurl. I've been stuck for like two days, good job lol.
I love the scene of Loki and Sylvie on the hilltop. 2 extremely powerful beings who have never had the "feelings" for someone before being incredibly awkward. Its adorable
Omg yes, it gave me all the feels when I watched this season when it originally aired - it's just so adorable!
I love the part when all the Lokis come together and start singing, "The power of one, the power of two, the power of maaAaAaaAAaaanNnnyYyyy."
"She needs to see the big picture"
Pre-cries for season 2...
The last 2 episodes were great this season. Episode 5 with all the easter eggs in the background like the Thanos Helicopter and the Living Tribunal head. Then there was, Nathanial, the could have been turn out for the Marvel plans.
Honestly... if you want to, you can go straight to season 2. There's no spoilers in it aside from a blink and you miss it moment at the very end.
Not even a spoiler... the reference is so vague it's only recognizable in hindsight.
@@WolfPlaysGames2 True. I just wasn't sure what exactly to say.
I feel the experience is best with the wait.
Agree
@@LiMe251 What If, Multiverse of Madness, Quantumania, and No Way Home don't totally make sense unless they are after Loki season 2. I can't say why without spoilers though. Only the Loki S2 last TVA scene had to have been after those movies.
It's your channel. Starting Loki Season 2? Sure you can!
Seconded! I think it’s independent enough from the rest of the MCU that you wouldn’t be spoiling anything by watching Loki Season 2 next.
She's been pretty adamant about wanting to watch the MCU in release order.
@@joeblankenship377 That’s true, however I can’t think of anything in season 2 that would be a spoiler for any other phase 4 movie or show. Unless there’s something I’ve missed.
@@incredulousdisbelief9841it spoils Ant Man 3
@@andrewft31 Does it though? One post credit scene that really wouldn't impact anything?
"Oh my God, I have such a headache!"
Exactly how all the rest of us felt, Ash. You're in good company.
There is so much more story to tell in season 2. And I'm not on Patreon, so I'll cast my vote here: Please, please, please continue with the MCU! I've enjoyed your reactions to this franchise so much, and I can't wait to see more.
As other people of mentioned you can just watch the newest Ant Man and then watch Loki season 2. The story is pretty self contained. This villain was going to be the big bad for for the next set of phases but he messed up some things in his real life and Marvel dropped him. Loki season 2 is worth "going out of order" for.
What you need to understand Ashleigh, is Sylvia is the equivalent of Loki on her timeline but while each version of a person in different universes based on alternate timelines and such is the same person, they can also be their own unique individual selves. It’s said we are a product of our environment. This is true also of our experiences. Changes of the timeline mean things are subtly or not so subtly different and that means we can end up with different memories and a different personality. I’d argue that makes us different people to our alternate timeline equivalents. So when Loki kisses Sylvie, it’s the same personas him but different (I mean very obviously so, born a woman in her timeline not to mention all the other differences in her life etc). If it’d been a Loki much more similar to him then it would’ve been more weird. Probably best not to think about just like trying to think about the ultimate nature and meaning of the universe ain’t useful to the old noggin.
That's the perfect explanation! That's how I've described them for years myself 😁
What I love about the confrontation at the end. Sylvie does the heroic thing - risk it all on free will and the hope of something better - for villainous reasons and revenge. Loki does the villainous thing - try to manage the cosmic tyranny for good - specifically because of his character development and new sense of responsibility.
The Loki Gator taking Pres Lokis hand is a call back Easter egg to the fact that Tom Hiddleston did the voice of “James” Hook in Fairy Pirates movie of Tinkerbelle and the Croc was unable to get Hooks hand at the time. So this was unfinished business since all Hook actors need their hand cut off and fed to the Croc or in this case Gator. With his reaction I can’t help but wonder if Loki thought later, dang I taste good.
This is a great season, but season 2 is even better. Probably the best recent MCU thing.
I hope she continues Loki, What If can wait.
❤ You need to see Loki season 2😹 I say go for it😻
One of the central themes of the Loki series is how even though they are the same being on the timeline, the Loki variants turn out very different. The Lamentis-1 episode spent a great deal of time showing how little Loki and Sylvie actually had in common. I don't know what it means when you love someone who is so different from you, but it wouldn't be narcissism.
DO IT! Start Season 2! :)
The theories about the *BOOM* that happened when they passed the threshold are mind-blowing.
Yes. We got one episode per week, coming out on Disney+ every... Thursday, I think. So, consider yourself lucky that you're getting to just binge straight through this, while the rest of us got left with a week-long gap to process each cliffhanger. Even for Loki season 2, it was cliffhangers every week, and... count yourself LUCKY that you'll be able to watch THAT one in one go. I'm just sad that it's going to be a good while before you get to Loki season 2. Knowing what happens there, so many of the things you said in this episode gave me a good laugh XD And I don't mean that to be unpleasant. More... hindsight is a real bitch with this. But... you'll find out about that.
Also, Jonathan Majors was the actor they set up to play the next big-bad of the MCU. However, with his recent trial and conviction, Marvel has dropped him HARD. So, they're having to figure out what to do with all of this now.
Still, I LOVE the character development that we have seen from Loki through this show. Yes, he's the god of mischief... but like his brother told him... he can be so much more than that. Working toward that goal... now, I don't know about you, but that sounds like a pretty darn glorious purpose to me.
THOUGH! If you wanted to fast-track a little bit, you could jump straight to Quantumania and then to Season 2... just saying.
Glorious purpose!!!!!!
Loving this.
Thanks Ashleigh!
And as it's been pointed out in the comments, season 2 doesn't rely on other Marvel movies or programs. So technically, it can be watched right away.
But you do you, ma'am.
Vintage Loki (by Jack Kirby) was easily my favorite variant. What i wouldnt give to see his version of the mcu. All inspired by JK.
Donald Sutherland just passed. Here are some of his best:
"Kelly's Heroes" (1970)
"The Dirty Dozen" (1967)
"Backdraft" (1991) directed by Ron Howard. Music by Hans Zimmer
"The Italian Job" (2003 remake)
"Buffy The Vampire Slayer" (1992 original movie)
"Space Cowboys" (2000) directed by Clint Eastwood
"The Eagle Has Landed" (1976)
"Hollowpoint" (1996)
"Outbreak" (1995)
"Start the Revolution Without Me" (1970)
Yes, that's his first outfit from the comic books.
And he was the first villain that the Avengers faced, like the movie.
(Though it was different Avengers, like the Wasp and Hank Pym)
There was a big buzz around who was in the castle at the end of time. Is it Dr. Doom? Is it Mr. Fantastic? I can’t recall completely, but I think the reveal of it being a Kang variant was a bit disappointing.
Fun fact: Remember Loki is a frost giant. So he didn’t need a blanket for him AND Sylvie. All just flirting.
Loki _is_ flesh and blood. And also a god
Btw, look up Loki Wandavision sync. There’s a moment in both finales where they sync up
Classic Loki is heavily implied to just be what happened to the Loki we saw “die” in Infinity War. Meaning his big Ride Of The Valkyries scene, recreating Asgard out of light, was the final act in that character arc.
Yes 'Classic Loki' is wearing the outfit he originally wore in the comic books when he brought The Avengers together (by being something that no hero could defeat alone). Classic comic book Loki was also drawn to be ugly but that was obviously too much to ask.
Episode 5 was an Easter Egg fest. Polybius, the mythical videogame. The Thanos copter that he used to have in the comics, “Throg,” and of course, they’ve been drinking Josta soda all season. I miss that stuff from the 90s. And lots more Easter Eggs too.
For us real time watchers of Loki, yes, it was week to week, though I think in season 2 we got two episodes on release day. Also, we had to wait two and a half years between seasons, don't worry, you'll make it. We did!!! LoL! Love your reactions as always!
From the First Thor movie to the end of season 2 of loki makes Loki's character act arguable the best or at least in the top three Character arcs in the MCU
At the time of the original airing of Loki Season 1, the cast for Antman: Quantumania had already been announced at least one year prior, and it included Jonathan Majors as "Kang The Conqueror", a great actor who everyone said was going to do great things in the MCU (all before his falling out of grace recently with his legal woes). Jonathan Majors showing up FIRST in the last episode of Loki Season 1 was a HUGE thing for fans, because it was expected he would make his MCU debut in the upcoming Antman movie. Majors still got to appear in Antman: Quantumania (as Kang) and got to film Loki Season 2 (incredible series) before finally getting dropped by Disney/Marvel, leaving the upcoming "Avengers 5: Kang Dynasty" film in limbo (do they recast Kang with another actor, do they scrap that villain and go for someone else, etc.)
All episodes were released on a weekly basis. It was the perfect choice. It gave us time to contemplate and absorb the information.
(Edit) You can watch all seasons back to back. Remember this takes place outside of the MCU timeline so it is not dependent on or connected to anything else.
26:01 If you play the finale of WandaVision simultaneously with this finale, He Who Remains’ expression changes just as Wanda changes into the Scarlet Witch. So it’s implied that Wanda unleashed the chaos that stops him from seeing this future, which allows Sylvie to kill him, which opens up the Multiverse. (Which is why you shouldn’t watch “What If?” until you watch this.)
Yes, Classic Loki is wearing a version of Loki's classic comicbook costume.
He's essentially wearing a version of First Appearance Loki's costume, but with the addition of a cape, and without the ponytail coming out of the top of his helmet.
Just mentioning WE had to wait almost 2 years from Season 1 until 2, so feel the frustration. Season 1 did answer most of the questions, just opened up a new set of them. The big thing of this is now the Multi verse just became a reality, which begins affecting all our remaining characters.
Richard E Grant plays "Classic Loki", whose entire look comes straight out of the 1960s Marvel comics 🤣 also you missed "Frog Thor" in a jar underground 🤣
i personally like to look at the Multiverse as a a forest. Each Universe a single Tree within a large endless forest. Each tree having their own branches, alternate timelines.
Summed up:
Forest - *Multiverse*
Tree - *Universe*
Branches - *Timelines*
The MCU we've been following since Iron Man (2008) is one of these trees. it has branches that we see highlighted in Endgame and Loki. Alternate histories that give birth to branched timelines or people simply interfering with past events like the Avengers in Endgame. Another tree in this massive forest (multiverse ) would be the Fox X-Men films. They exist within their own tree with alternate timelines as well. Both MCU and Fox films connected by being in the same forest but divided by separate trees. If a tree's branches are left unchecked they could overlap and clash with neighbouring tree's causing mayhem and who knows what.
The Sacred Timeline was simply the term designated to the collection of realities that were isolated after the Multiversal War with the MCU being the mainline Timeline of which everything else branched off from. Keeping them "save" from his variants who existed outside of the Sacred Timeline with the final events of Loki opening up the Multiverse once again. Pretty much by having an isolated timeline He Who Remains could make sure his variants never rise to power.
All of time is options, frequently just yes/no... starting with does the big bang happen... you are close, the multiverse is a single organism forest... all the trees began from a single point, and while above ground the trees seem seperate, they all in fact stem from deep below the surface having a single point of origin, the trees further out from the origin point, the "younger" trees are the ones that took longer to say "Yes" to the big bang, ergo they didn't start to sprout as soon as others... now, while on the surface, the trees can have similarities (names are the same, similar life events) at the core they are different (Medieval Theme Avengers & X-Men vs Nazi Rule vs Zombie vs Animal vs Dinosaur vs Apes vs Cartoonish vs DC vs Amalgam vs Prime)
@@TxSonofLiberty Both of you are so close and are almost right however you've missed what the sacred timeline is made up of. Everyone does! At the begin of the episode, you see the two timelines that make it up. the MCU and ours!! you hear comments from both as it zooms out and then in. Including music and Greta's speech from our universe and Vision's line about love from the MCU.
I don’t know, the multiverse seems more like a single tree, with each timeline being a branch/root.
"Oh My Gawd! I have such a headache!" 'nuff said.
Classic Loki is indeed wearing the garb of Marvel Comics Loki as designed by artist Jack "The King" Kirby. 😅
It's funny you mention a frog...in the comics Loki changed Thor into Throg the Frog of Thunder. Courtesy of writer/artist Walt Simonson. The Mighty Thor vol. 1 #365 March 1986 😂
The statue at the end wasn't He Who Remains. It is a much more powerful variant. One who conquered his own timeline and now seeks to conquer all timelines. 😮
I did a Dad Bod Loki the Halloween after this first series, complete with Loki Crocks. It was so easy to do and makes such a fun costume when you can do so pretty much anything as a Loki Variant.
I love the "...this is where the episode-damnit!!!"
You can start Loki 2 when you like, in the timeline this happens outside of time before/during Doctor Strange and Ant-man so watching Loki 2 won't really give you any spoilers
At least nothing you will understand till it happens in the movie.
Some Lokis are versions of Loki, but some Lokis are so different that they're basically completely different characters.
Like Old Loki is essentially the same Loki, but the only difference is that he survived Thanos and got old.
Sylvie was born different and lived a totally different life. She's essentially a totally different character. She just shares some common background up until like the age of 10.
"He Who Remains" was also known as "Kang the Conqueror" in the latest Ant-Man movie.
You absolutely CAN start Season Two!
The TVA and anyone related to it all kinda exist outside of time. Or, at like every time at once, or at no specific time at all. It's complicated.
Gotta love looking for answers and just getting more questions
I just realized that when Loki is projecting Asgard the music playing is Ride of the Valkyries.
You're correct, Classic Loki's outfit is from the comics.
Yes, feel our pain, we waited what felt like YEARS for season two.... but also, gurl, go watch season 2
@33:15. That, that right there. That, and many moments as fiery and passionate as that, is the reason I subscribed and marathon binged... All of it.
RIP for Donald Sutherland I was going to watch Kelly's Heroes the weekend of the 4th. I'm going to throw it in tonight. No negative waves, we're all about the Positive Waves Oddball.
In July, let's get some French movies (Amelie, La Femme Nikita, Love Me If You Dare (Jeux D'Enfants), City of Lost Children ...) for Bastille Day 7/14 & the Paris Olympics 7/26-8/11.
R.I.P. Donald Sutherland.
"The Dirty Dozen," "Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers" or "The Hunger Games."
@4:59 "Not Thor's Hammer!" Yes, but more importantly right beneath it is The Mighty Throg {Thor turned into a Frog} trying to get to it
19:04 ME TOO!!! Miss Minutes scared the HECK outta ME!! 😂
Yep. We got it one episode a week... It was a LONG process that felt forever... but so worth it.
Nice reaction Ashleigh, the best part: Your comments at the end. Can't wait for your next Marvel reactions, woooo! Please continue watching all the James Bond films in order.
I like a good, epic, heroic end, and Classic Loki really got one.
Ashleigh it's ok of you. you can fix that need for Loki season 2 right away. We had season 1 come out Jun-Jul 2021 then due to Covid messing things up. We had to wait until Oct-Nov 2023 to get the rest of that story... for now.
Since Disney owns Marvel, there's a blink and you miss it Toy Story Easter egg in this first episode. One of the background cars in the void is a pizza delivery car from Pizza Planet.
Hey Ashleigh! Love your content! Keep it up. Honestly, whenever I'm having a bad day, your content puts me in a good mood every time, so thank you for that. It's always a great feeling whenever I find a fellow movie buff, that appreciate not only the entertainment value, but the joy it brings with every showing. Again, thanks for always being there
You have questions, we have... more things to cause more questions. :) We got 1 episode per week. BUT, my hubby and I waited until they were all out and binged them.. so the waiting was agony! That was hilarious... So this is where this ep-- DAMN IT!!! Why can't you start season 2? Let's gooooooo
That ship (DE-173, the USS Eldridge) was (according to the story) involved in the Philadelphia Experiment
Haha, looks like enough responses about the differences between TVA and Time-Lords got her to tell the difference.
😂
“Hogwarts?!”
I died. Lmao 🤣
Funny that you bring up Doctor Who - the older Loki variant, Richard E Grant has played a version of the Doctor. Also brilliant in Withnail and I, alongside Paul McGann, who played another version of the Doctor. As he would put it - wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff.
When these shows come out, they usually do a two-episode "event", then release the rest an episode every week. So each season/series unfolds over two-three months if it's not binged.
Fun fact - If you sync up the final episodes of Wandavision and Loki season 1 the moment Wanda becomes Scarlett Witch is the moment He who remains says "We just crossed the threshold". Indicating that the creation of Scarlett Witch injected pure Choas into the timeline and started us down the path to the multiverse saga!
That was the theory that I was looking for! Thank you.
My favorite part of Classic Loki's sacrifice is he could have conjuresd anything to be a distraction, but he wanted to see his home one last time 😥
Hey, we were ALSO very impatient about Season 2, we had to wait like 3 fucking years for it. Half of COVID happened after season1 and before season 2! 😂😂🤣🤣
Glad you're so excited to continue. 😎
"Pickles are great, until you find yourself in one."
I would almost feel bad for you, except when the first season ended for us we had even longer to wait till season 2. But glad you are motivated to stay in it. What If Season 1 is good and there is a tie in with something that will be happening in one of the movies so it is worth a watch for sure. There is a lot to power through, but hang with it. You are doing great!
This is now the start of the mcu multiverse saga and a new big baddie 😊
You could definitely jump right into season 2. Sure a lot of marvel came out in between but the series is self contained. Plus it MIGHT be important to be caught up on Loki before you see Deadpool & Wolverine. Also you have to see "Logan" before "Deadpool 2". In a perfect world you would watch them back to back.
When Ash said she got a headache thinking about timeline, I got a sudden urge to wanna tell her to watch Dark lol Season 2 is an amazing season. Im glad I enjoy every MCU phase 4 & 5 so it's not a terrible wait
33:19 Now you know how we felt. Having to wait for the next "installment" of the MCU.
"I don't think Loki should be in charge of a timeline.."
Me: Laughs in season 2 😂
@16:47 May be one of the best sounds I've ever heard a reactor make!
Yes, the Thanoscopter really was a thing in the comics!