Tesla And Non-Tesla EV Charging Adapters: Everything You Need To Know
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- We examine a variety of EV charging adapters that allow Tesla vehicles to charge on non-Tesla charging stations and the adapters that will enable non-Tesla EVs to use Tesla Wall Connectors and Destination chargers.
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Lectron Tesla CCS1 adapter: amzn.to/3lFUgiO
Lectron J1172 to Tesla adapter: amzn.to/3HYgVhf
Lectron Tesla to J1772 48-amp compact adapter: amzn.to/3bk2Z4N
Lectron Tesla to J1772 40-amp cable adapter: amzn.to/3OA7FSa
TeslaTap 50 Tesla to J1772: www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...
TeslaTap 80 Tesla to J1772 : www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...
TeslaTap MINI 40 Tesla to J1772: www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...
TeslaTap MINI 60 Tesla to J1772 : www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...
Chapters:
0:00 EV charging adapters intro
0:41 Different connectors for different countries
2:22 The Tesla connector
3:18 The connector at all non-Tesla EV use
3:57 The DC fast charging connectors
5:05 The adapter to charge a Tesla vehicle from a non-tesla charging station
6:35 Adapters for charging non-Tesla EVs from Tesla Wall Connectors and Destination chargers
12:33 The CHAdeMO to Tesla adapter
14:21 CCS1 to Tesla adapters for DC fast charging
15:08 The SETEC (now Lectron) CCS1 to Tesla adapter
17:44 The EVHUB CCS1 to Tesla adapter
19:07 The Tesla-made CCS1 to Tesla adapter
24:20 How to find out if your Tesla can use the CCS1 adapter
26:05 Testing the CCS1 adapter at an Electrify America DC fast charger
32:22 Testing the CHAdeMO to Tesla adapter
35:14 Charging non-Tesla EVs at Tesla Superchargers
38:54 Why the Tesla-made adapter is the best one
40:59 Always put safety first with EV charging
44:57 The wrapup
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Tom, your video's just got better. This, to me, is your best video ever. Well planned out, executed and excellent factual content. I appreciate the lack of bias and the sharing with failures as well as successes. Keep up the excellent videos. Everyone who buys or is contemplating buying a EV needs to pay close attention to this video. It is current and would help anyone understand the complexity of EV charging. 😀
Yup I’m contemplating getting a 2023 Nissan Leaf and the Chademo is what’s keeping away from it when they’re available. This little bit of information about that plug just made my decision much stronger.
@@mostafa685 if you are doing any road-trip charging, I would not recommend the leaf! I am a proud 2019 leaf owner and it is a fantastic tool around the town car, but not a road-tripper. We placed level 2 charging at our parents home and just charge where when we visit for long trips.
I absolutely agree. I think he’s getting pumped up with push ups before the videos or something. Previous videos have so much good info in them but for a new viewer it can be overwhelming. This one gets to the heart of the issue quickly and methodically.
What if Tom moved into battery temperature or phantom drain or any other more obscure charging tangential topic. 🤔❤️
@@mostafa685 I've purchased a leaf as a 2nd car so fast charging will not be in the cards. Just got it to bang around town and for my kids to use. Yep the Chademo is a bummer if fast charging is needed.
No doubt you make a good point. While most of his videos are great, this here has to go down as his most informative post till date!
Tom, I'm not even in North America but I watched till the end because it was super insightful and your storytelling is just unmatched. 👍 Cheers from good ol' France!
Thank you!
Tom,
Great video, we needed to install a single charger in a family vacation home and this video along with the 2023 best of video gave me the insight I needed to make a choice. Love your channel!
This video cleared up the confusion brought on by several websites previously visited. 😃
Awesome video!! 45 minutes flew by with all the valuable information you provided .. learned quite a bit today. Thumbs up !!
Best video about adapters I have ever seen. You should make videos explaining other subjects as well, you make them sound so easy 😊
Great job on the video! I enjoy how practical and thorough your reviews are.
The Best explanation and tips regarding the ev adapters in general
Boy, you just about covered it all Tom ! Excellent video.
That was extremely informative, especially the fact that the Tesla-made CCS 1 adapter locks itself unless charging stops
Thanks Tom. I appreciate all of your videos. The EVSE and related content is my favourite. I’ve become a charging nerd and proud of it. 🤓
Funny when my electrician was installing my Hardwired ChargePoint EVSE in 2017 for my Bolt EV, he installed a GFCI breaker and the unit keep tripping. At that point I informed him that the ChargePoint had GFCI built-in. We then switched to a non-GFCI breaker and it has been great for over 5 years. This is the 1st video that I have seen to address this situation. Great video, very thorough . Good job Tom !
I think mine must’ve too because it’s being shared with my dryer. I don’t run the dryer when I’m charging and the breaker never tripped before just using the dryer before the charging station was installed. It makes you wonder if “electricians” know what they are doing.
I'm buying a Model Y soon, and this video was absolutely perfect at providing useful information prospective buyers like me need to know! Bravo!
Awesome video! Everything you need to know about EV charging. Recommend all new EV owners to view this video. Thank you for the video.
Woah Tom! I’m your biggest fan but that was crazy… I’m pretty sure the new Nissan is pronounced like the musical term aria. ARE ee uh.
Thank you for doing this video. I knew you hadn’t done one yet so I was looking for adapters for a friend really hoping you would do a video. I guess I was behind the times last week since I was traveling. My apologies for not being the first to watch and like the video.
Really-excellent topic, summary, and video in general!
Thanks for the great info was wanting an adaptor you had all the answers!
Thank you for such a thorough video.
Great video full of useful information. Thanks Tom!
Thanks Mate
i think i found u reporting on e for electric utube channel . i really like your presenting style ,no nonsense, factual and experiental baased, and seemingly very interestedand passionate about the topic and most of all thorough and well thought out to get the information accross , as wel as getting ALL of the steps and concerns a veiwer m ight have high lighted and outlined ( with so many others t to the end and have more questions now cause the explanation and demo either mis speak or gloss over or dont show aspects of the topic that are less than usefull not see) , defnitely not the case with you . your persnable style and clar passion for what you do is a pleasure to watch..
Interestingly i find myself clicking on and wathing your videios even though i have no real practical use for alot of it at present , i am in australia, and we are so very far behind on EV adoption and market penetration and use that t will in practical sence, as well as legi slative and code implementation allowances it will be some time before they are a viable thing more than just a small number of those early adopters such as in your country back in 2012/15.
think for me and my peers in suburbia to consider/ have and use EVs as ny sort of let alone sole mode of transport will become viable only in the medium term. ( some of this is probalby because of the massive size of th country, ( basically the same land mass as the continetal US) but ith 13X less or 7 perecnt of your population rolling out expensive large scale infrastrucure is always slower and very targeted to support new things and that almost lowest overall population density of anywherre on this bubble, massive travel distances are commonplace normal and not even noticed as we go about daily life - untill say travelling overseas ( wher many whole countriies in europe are smaller to traverse than our states , counties and even some cities or local suburbs even . such that by nature EV adoption wil lower pace than more densely populated/ high infracstructure places .
none the less you present usefull info easy to understand and seemingly a nice guy, thankyou .
i dont know what your time constraints or intersts are or how hard is to make utube content but u should consider branching into other areas either related or unrelated as im sure would be well received . cheers
( sorry for mispellin or lost characters - dodgy keybord )
I watched several of your videos before seeing this one. If you read this and want feedback, this is the video that convinced me to hit SUBSCRIBE. Lots of good info AND the titles for different segments so I could skip stuff about charging a Tesla are awesome. Keep up the great product you put out!
Thank you!
Great informational video. Thanks!
That was super interesting and very informative, thanks Tom!
Excellent tutorial I learned a lot thank you
great job ! very informative and well explained.
Nicely done. Packed with useful info.
Another great video Tom. I’m waiting on delivery of my BMW iX and find all your videos very informative for first time EV’ers. Keep up the good work.
Great video Tom. I work in the industry and worked for ABB up until last August where I ran a test lab with L2 and DC Fast chargers in Richmond VA. I was under a NDA at the time but earlier last year, Tesla sent me one of the CCS1 adaptors along with a loaner ModelX to test with ABB chargers. It worked great after Tesla enabled the sw on the X to be compatible with the adaptor.
I suspect Tesla will make an adapter with special FW. They want to make money. This is one way. Also they wont open up there network till uncle sam pays them money because IMO in this race currently this is a big selling point to draw ppl to their cars vs competitors. Also I am guessing this adapter will need to step down the voltage to a lower voltage.
Are you saying that CCS on a tesla is software enabled and not reliant on special hardware. I have an early 2020 M3 Sr+ and would love to hear you say it is software based. If it is hardware then I hope that I can get the hardware upgrade through a car retrofit or better a special adapter. Any intel on this would be great before I just give in and find a CHAdeMO adapter.
@@stevegaj1262 Its hardware based.
My March 2020 Model X is CCS enabled. Just bought the Tesla to CCS adapter - paid 700$ on Ebay. Excited to try it out. Thanks for your help.
One of the best video evet. Very informative. Thank you very much indeed.
You make a great video good job and thank you sir
These adapters without locks are extremely dangerous when 240/400v at 100+ amps is flowing. Disconnection would produce a large, loud spark and create carbon on the pins. Imagine the electrical hazard if disconnection occurred while raining! Always stop charging your EV before unplugging. As a safety feature, most J1772 handles stop charging when the button is pressed.
I love my Tesla CCS1 adapter, I get 188kW on my local EA station which beats the V2 Superchargers in my area given both the higher speed and not needing to share stalls. I’ll be using it with EA on my big trip up to Omaha this weekend.
It was a bit of a challenge to get working since I had to retrofit the charging ECU which is a scary process and took lots of service center calling to get the part.
If you already have CCS support enabled though, getting the physical Tesla CCS1 adapter through Harumio was super easy for me.
Can you help or give details on how you got one? What is Harumio?
Best review ever seen
I was able to do the DIY process to upgrade the ECU in my 2018 model 3 to use the CCS adapter. And it does work! Very informative video.
Pb and jealous man my 2020 model 3 didn't come with it
What DIY process? I also have a 2018.
Excellent review. I rented a Tesla and couldn't figure out why the non Tesla station plug wouldn't fit the port. Now I know I need a f***ing adapter! lol
Thank you for the hands on explanation on attempting to charge non Tesla vehicles to Tesla superchargers!
HOT DIGGITY DOG! This is THE video I was looking for. THANK YOU!
Huh… I thought Teslas in Japan used CHAdeMO for DC charging. But no, looking it up, I’m wrong. They include a CHAdeMO adaptor instead. Learn something new every day. Great video as always, Tom!
again Tom, you are a hit when it comes to EV charging, love the info on the Tesla CCS1 adaptor info!
45 minutes though! But damn good info nonetheless, thank you for this.
Excellent video! Thank you.
Great quality video as always! Very very informative, I look forward to Tesla opening up their network, whether it's with new stations or an adapter.
Kudos on the video , well done🎉
inclusively complete
Great job!
Great VIDEO
Thank you. I've been so confused with all these connectors (I'm not from the US, so we get cars from many different markets).
Tom, thanks for very informative videos! Also for "moderating" live Alex shows!
This has been eye opening. It also tells me I should just buy my Tesla compatible adapter from Tesla.
Tom,
Great overview of an issue many of us need explained. Love State of Charge. Love Inside EVs.
Wow! Impressive video! I live in Brazil, in 2023 BYD is selling Dolphin model, so your video it is interesting to know more if I go to US and use a Tesla car, but Iearned a lot with your demonstration, understanding better what I can find here in Brazil using Type 2 & Type 2 CCS. Thanks for this great content
huge thanks for the video. Needed a Tesla to CCS adapter and this was just the ticket. Went with TeslaTap 80a adapter. Very helpful and informative. Your content is educational, entertaining, and you always seem to be producing content just when I need it. As a new EV owner (2022 Tesla MYP) and with a new Nissan leaf coming any day your content has helped de-mystify EV life. I'll never go back to ICE cars again. Keep it up and thanks! Adapter arrived today and cannot wait to charge my new leaf on my Gen 3 Tesla Wall connector.
Thank you, Tom!
33:20 wow, what a monstrosity haha. I feel like Tesla is the only entity that considered design and the human machine interface when they made their connector.
Great Content Man. Watched it to the end. But the Tesla mirror obstructed our view of the chargers when they were pluged in the port
Im looking into a new max power station plug in. Just wonder if you Could make a home charger ranking. Based on all the chargers you’ve reviewed so far. I enjoy the deep dive into the data on your videos. Thanks!!
Great video. I have two 2021 model Y's. The long range manufactured in june 2021 is CCS enabled. The performance one manufacturered in September 2021 is not CCS enabled. Definitely need to check before you buy an adapter
Just bought Model Y, this is very helpful review! Best regards from Ukraine, Odesa city! And many thanks to the People of the United States for supporting us and not leaving alone with world terrorist, we will never forget this.
Very informative video. I like how you stress safety on using these adapters.
well done, appreciate the information.
Said another way if you own a lighting and its cold and your pulling a load you need to keep the power plant connected to go 50 miles. :)
Great video! Thank you for all the Intel! Am I correct in that with the TeslaTap Mini, I could use that adapter to charge my Porsche Taycan at Tesla charging stations? Secondly, if you don’t mind, would I need to download a Tesla app to pay for the charge? Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks. Always appreciate your content but this one in particular. I tried to buy the Tesla to J1772 adapter from Lextron. Problem is they are sold out. Finally found one at Amazon and immediately after I purchased it they said "Sold Out". Seem to be hard to find these days. Glad I have it because two of the hotels I use regularly only have Tesla destination chargers. Thanks again for helping with my range anxiety!
My 60 Amp Tesla tap finally arrived in the mail. Now just waiting on my ID4 to arrive at the dealership. The Qmerrit home office in Texas is just north of Austin, Texas.
very informative, especially as Aptera is trying to push Tesla charger as standard and may come only with with Tesla plug
I think you are right about the connection not locking, but if you remember in the case of dcfc the locking and charge is controlled on the car side not like AC is controlled by evse
Thank You Tom, a great video(first time to visit). Do you have Video to introduce the Wall AC charger to 110/220V socket (adapter/convertor)?
No yet but coming
This is super helpful. The TeslaTap Mini now comes in 80 and 60. Do you recommend one over the other to use for our Tesla wall charger to charge a Kona EV? Thank you!
Great video! If we have a plug-in hybrid which only have a J-plug(J1772) is there any adapter to recharge over an CCS ??
This was a very informative video that I recommend all new EV owners watch. I know I learned a lot. Thank you for producing. I am subscribing to your channel so I can keep up with the new info. (Kia EV6 owner and Juicebox 48amp hardwired by licensed electrician😜)
Thank you Tom, any news on adaptors for none Tesla EVs
Great video Tom as always. I was wondering when you will review a Flo charger. I have owned an X5 for 6 years and it has been bullet proof through all kinds of Canadian weather conditions. Also their DC fast chargers only available in 50 and 100 Kw but totally reliable 98% uptime. They are also developing their own higher power chargers in house to maintain quality and reliability.
I have but a long time ago. I am due to make a video review of one soon. I like them - very solid units. The problem is they are low-power and VERY expensive.
GREAT VIDEO! I wonder when Tesla is going to start selling CCS1 adapters in North America so we are not getting ripped off from resellers
Tom. Great video. I have a etron Audi. And I installed a juice box. But, when I plog it to my car. Start charging perfectly. Then the next 5 minutes stop charging.
I like the idea of the CCS1 Tesla adapter because around me there are a lot of grocery stores with CCS and no one is at them so charging while I shop is nice. I know it costs more than home but my bar is just beating my old Charger Scat Pack in fueling costs.
Thank you for the info. I was wondering if the Tesla to J1772 adaptor will work with a Tesla charging station unit, you’ve cleared that up. Thanks! I know the adaptor would work on the Tesla home and destination charger, but what’s a UMC?
Tom, wonderful video! Are any of the Tesla to J1772 adapters UL or Intertek listed?
Not that I know of.
Great video. Thanks. Interesting though I have a 2021 Model 3 but the CCS is not enabled like your car. I can't get the Tesla CCS adaptor now. Tesla says I need to wait for a conversion kit to be out some time in 2023...
Thanks for all your videos!! Looking forward to check your review for the EVSE from Emporia! It looks to be a great value and it’s now UL certified. 🙏🏻
I have all of them. Very handy i let others borrow them all the time.
Tom, can you do a video on using adapter to connect camping plugs to the 110v chargers
Tom first timer and enjoyed it. I have a Chrysler pacifica hybrid and have been using the charger with a dryer plug I had installed in my garage (50A 22V). I just bought a model Y and want to get an adapter from my wall plug to the tesla plug so that I ca use the charging cable that came with the car and charge at home. Am an RV guy and we used to call those adapters that were two ends connecting different plugs on the ends a dog bone. So I want a dogboe adapter from 50 A female receptacle to a tesla male. I am sure there is terminology I am not using that would help. But can you recommend this type of adapter? thanks Jim
I just bought the Lectron tesla to J1772 charger adapter 7/3/23. Can I use an actual Tesla charging station with the hi capacity ratings ? It’s only rated 48A . My EV is the 2017 VW egolf . One of the older EV’s with little control . Manual doesn’t mention how to control amp’s or what percentage you want to charge to like some newer models . Great video
Can the Lectron small unit the 48amp version be used with 2022 Mustang Mach e select AWD vehicle? Thanks for all your videos. They are great. Thanks
Hi Tom, we are about to take delivery of our Model Y. Thanks to your video, we will most likely go with a hardwired Tesla wall charger.
Question: we planned to replace the Tesla with a Rivian (ordered) in
Love your videos Tom. Have you recorded ambient temp while running charging tests. Just curious if that has any effect on supercharging
Check out the a2z ccs1 to Tesla adapter. Comes with a locking ring as well!
Yeah, a bunch of new adapters have come out since I made this video.
I'd like to see how the Tesla J1772 adapter works, what chargers it works with and how fast the charge rate is, Thanks.
Hi again - we have a Tesla and now a Rivian and one NEMA14 50 outlet. I’d like to use a splitter to keep our two charging cables plugged in. Have you reviewed that option and do you have recommendations? One product that looks good is the Lectron socket splitter. Any opinion on that device?
Thanks
Martin Raphael
Great information Tom, as always. Perhaps you can help me with a somewhat unique charging question. We are renting a Tesla Model Y in mid-August and will be driving to Colorado from Missouri mostly along I-70 where there are plenty of superchargers, but there will likely be other charging opportunities. The AirBNB house we will rent has a garage with a 110 outlet. My question is -could I use the Level 1 charging cord (EVSE) that came standard with my 2020 Chevy Bolt and a Lektron J1772 to tesla adapter (60 Amp/250 V AC) to (trickle) charge our tesla rental to gain 30-40 miles O/N? (Note: I won't even consider doing this if I don't know whether the 110 outlet has sufficient amps to charge an EV or if I don't have permission from the owner of the property). Your thoughts are appreciated!! Thanks!!
Great information! We have a Tesla Model 3 and a Hyundai Ionic 5. We just bought an adapter to use my Tesla plug to charge our Hyundai. The only problem so far, the Ionic won’t take the charge unless the car is in accessory mode. Once charging starts, I can shut off the car.
Firmware/software.
Thanks for writing this. We have a Tesla Model 3 but are considering a Kia ev6. I would never have thought to put it in accessory mode
Tom, with the NEMA 14/50 receptacle being a 4 prong outlet and the plug on the Taycan Mobile Connect being a 3-prong plug, does the Taycan include an adapter?
I got a great deal for a Tesla to J 1772 adapter. Amazon was selling an 80 amp unit with a lock for $79.
Beats the 40 amp units and those without a key.
I used my Amazon credit to get it to under $75.00.
Great video on all the adaptors....wish there was more UL listed ones. When dealing with level 2 and 3 charging, knowing that its been tested and accepted by a NRTL (testing laboratory) will help the consumer protect both the vehicle and the home electrical system.
Know I'll get lots of blow back from non-Tesla folks, but we owners have financed the Super Charger network with added costs of the vehicle, approx $2000 per purchase. I support the expansion to other EVs, but that expansion needs to limit the impact to existing owners. Lets see what the roll out looks like before too many demands are placed on the SC network. A mix of propriatary Tesla connectors and CCS sounds best to me. Over the years I've purchased 3 Teslas and I do use the SC network quite a bit, having done 6 cross country trips from CA to NY and countless trips from SF to Seattle. In addition to a MY we now also drive a Volvo C40 Recharge and plan to use the SC network with the Volvo....when a good UL listed adaptor comes along....or the one Tesla sells because it will be at least tested on its network. I think Tesla's adaptor will be useful for level 2 and 3 charging wrapped up in just one unit.
Thanks Martin for posting... I'm hesitant to purchase an electric vehicle, and Not sure I'll even fit... At 6'4" and 400ish... I hope that prices will come down. Can't spend $60k for the Tesla 3, which is probably the largest EV and only chance of getting in...
Ug😬
It's too early to do away with gas and price us out of the market until the infrastructure country wide is installed!
I keep looking for an adapter to charge my CCS car from a Supercharger. It sounds like the only DCFC options are for Teslas to charge at non-Tesla stations. It would be great if there were options to go the other direction. It looks like there are level-2 options to charge Tesla with non-Tesla stations and vice versa, but not level 3.
Is there a way to charge a Nissan Leaf using the ChadeMo port from a CCS.
Basically how to DC fast charge if now ChadeMo is available.
G'day Tom, a subscriber and friend from Australia. I just purchased my first EV, a beautiful Tesla model S, 2015 model with only 36,000 kilometers (22,370 miles) on the clock. I have installed 2 x type 3 wall charges, one at my live in home and the other at my holiday home. The car has free super charging for life too. My question is should I consider to adapt the model S for CCS2 charging?
Great and informative video, Tom. Small suggestion though. Wear a contrasting shirt. A black adapter against a black T shirt does not show well.
Great job, Tom! You're the expert. So fast, out of date tho. Would love more coverage of ***non-Tesla DCFC*** in North America. Will CCS adapters be introduced, which operate at 250KW, V2 or V3, Tesla SCs, where one does not find a Magic Dock? This is currently confusing, as many 250KW stations do not have them, and possibly won't get them. What is the ongoing pulse of the NACS roll-out? Will CCS equiped cars get the short stick if Tesla doesn't retro-fit enough "magic docks" and simply serves 2025 onward vehicles (OE supplied NACs female)?
tom,i really like your vidio,we produce most of the adapters,wish we have more connect share infor coco