Part 13: Wizard of Many Colors

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  • We seek the blessing of the Rainbow Sage, but our big sister stands in our way.
    SA Forums Thread:
    forums.somethingawful.com/sho...
    Progression Table:
    lpix.org/4318776/CQ%20Progres...
    00:00 - Opening Cutscene
    05:08 - Preparations
    11:09 - Battle
    47:31 - Closing Cutscene
    =-=-=-=-=
    THE CHALLENGE
    - I must recruit all 40 characters in the normal playable cast of Conquest. (Capturable enemies and DLC/Amiibo units are not required.)
    - Every character must be trained: at the end of the campaign, the sum of their level before promotion and their displayed level in their final class must be at least 25. For the purposes of this rule, Felicia, Jakob, Gunter, Camilla, and Leo are considered to have been level 0, 0, 5, 10, and 16 before promotion, respectively.
    - No DLC or multiplayer battles are allowed.
    BONUS OBJECTIVES
    - Have every character get married. (Gunter, Shura, Flora, and Izana need only unlock an A-rank support with Corrin.)
    - For each character, acquire an additional class with an A+ support, if possible. (Characters who can't get new classes this way, like Jakob, should unlock A-rank support with Corrin instead.)
    - Kidnap all of the unique capturable bosses.
    OTHER RULES
    - DLC, path bonuses, visitation bonuses, and battle bonuses are banned.
    - No random events in My Castle (Lottery Shop, conversations around the castle, etc.) are allowed. Birthdays are included in this ban. I may use the Private Quarters once, immediately after chapter 6, when it is not random.
    - Einherjar, Logbook, DLC, Amiibo, and Bond units are banned.
    - Facilities like Lilith's Temple and the Prison that refresh over time may only be used once between maps. The exception is that I can use them, upgrade them, and then immediately use them again.
    - I am allowed unlimited food and gems, but not Dragon Vein Points.
    - I can acquire a Chef's Hat. I cannot visit other castles for any other purpose.
    - I may manipulate results from the Mess Hall according to the abilities of my best chef. (So I can't get Exquisite meals until I acquire Jakob, Peri, or Percy.)
    =-=-=-=-=
    I'm playing Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest on Lunatic difficulty with a variety of fan-made mods, including the story rewrite known as the "Good Guy Garon" mod. My modlist is here:
    pastebin.com/unba7ix6
    You can acquire the HD textures I'm using here:
    gamebanana.com/mods/351105
    Guide to installing Fates mods:
    gamebanana.com/tuts/13215
    #FireEmblemFates #Conquest
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ความคิดเห็น • 86

  • @aggressivelymediocre350
    @aggressivelymediocre350 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    You know if you think about temporarily ditching units as soon as they hit an S support it’s actually like you’re giving them paternity/maternity leave

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +117

      I always knew the Nohrians were the good guys

    • @thekiss2083
      @thekiss2083 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Give them 12 hours to spend a decade with their kids

  • @Zoran501
    @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I really wanted to make this episode's title a pun on "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," but I just couldn't make it work

    • @chompyferaligatr3753
      @chompyferaligatr3753 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe 7 Mages for 7 Ninjas?

    • @spacedoyster7686
      @spacedoyster7686 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or maybe "7 Colors for 7 Mages?"

    • @johnwise9811
      @johnwise9811 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks now I have the music from 7 brides for 7 brothers stuck in my head

    • @slushisimcambi2521
      @slushisimcambi2521 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah a man of culture.

    • @jonathanlgill
      @jonathanlgill ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seven Hues for Seven Rooms is the closest I can think of.

  • @maxechilsemptyspace7184
    @maxechilsemptyspace7184 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    50:25. Dang, a love interest and a new best friend is a super sick deal. Maybe the real cure for loneliness was treason all along...

    • @oddpooka2
      @oddpooka2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      betray your nation today

  • @thegloop5018
    @thegloop5018 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    oh my god he made countercurse useful how are half the comments not talking about this this man is cracked

  • @theleftfootedsultan
    @theleftfootedsultan ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “If you tonic up your stats…”

  • @jonathanlgill
    @jonathanlgill ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This is a great map for introducing some of the most dangerous threats in Conquest in controlled, room-size formations. Stairs, lunge chains, Hexing Rod, high-speed Life and Death enemies: all of these will return later in Conquest in more complex and challenging maps.
    The attack stance positioning for each of these rooms is really, really cool to see.

  • @andersolson44
    @andersolson44 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Gotta love how not even lunatic difficulty can fix Rinkah's strength problems

    • @jerry3115
      @jerry3115 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, but her personal skill can

  • @maxechilsemptyspace7184
    @maxechilsemptyspace7184 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Something small that I really appreciate is seeing Zoran choosing not to heal characters even though he could. Example is 19:40. Often times I can get shortsighted in games like these and view healing as an action with no cost. And if you're not doing anything else with a healer character, it's really easy to see the benefits of healing such as higher hp, increase to staff rank, increase to support, increase to exp, etc. while ignoring the cost. And sometimes these perceived benefits aren't truly benefits at all. If you don't need the extra hp, raising it isn't a benefit. If you aren't going to raise the staff rank of the character any higher, it doesn't matter how much you increase it because you didn't make use of the increase. If you don't gain enough support points to constitute an increase in support rank, there was no point in raising support points (also if you don't make use of the support). And if you promote before you level up again, the increase to exp doesn't have value either. Do I mean to say that these benefits are always useless? No. But we must look more critically at our strategic situations.
    But there is a cost to healing, especially in this challenge. Staves use up a lot of cash for one, so keeping around existing staves can be very valuable. In this challenge, money will likely be a little bit of a concern. Resources will need to be spread over a much larger cast than normal, so saving money by limiting staff use can help a lot. Even a heal staff costs 500 gold each, not to mention other staves (also we're nearing the point where lots of people start buying mend staves instead). Further, there are some subtle costs of healing. Increasing support rank can be an issue in some cases, especially in a challenge like this where support levels are planned from map to map. It's really easy to accidentally increase support beyond your intention by healing too many times (and thus edging other units out of support positions). Also, sometimes leveling up can be a cost as well (very subtle, but an example of a time where that may be important is promotion, where leveling up one more time before promotion can cause your internal level to be 1 higher than if you promoted earlier... it could very well be that the stats you've gained from the level are not worth the future speed of leveling up [also the Elise case in chapter 7, where you may want to reclass Elise to wyvern and gain str +2 with a single battle]).
    tldr; sometimes stuff seems obvious, but when you think more carefully about a given system, you may realize some hidden pros and cons, and playing this game at a higher level may require us to carefully consider our options, even the ones that seem obvious.

  • @irismarin8613
    @irismarin8613 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was already aware that Zoran could do almost anything, but I thought finding a use for Gamble (44:45) was beyond even him

  • @evanherynk5863
    @evanherynk5863 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I believe the map theme for the Rainbow Sage maps is "Knowledge." Hmm...fitting.
    Also, three points of speed for Beruka! Dang, that's pretty great.

  • @Scepti
    @Scepti ปีที่แล้ว +64

    It says a lot about society that Camilla’s Squad moved noticeably faster than Corrin’s with half the units would also actively holding back Camilla
    CQ unit balance sure is

    • @theleftfootedsultan
      @theleftfootedsultan ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It’s crazy to me that a game without a truly terrible unit can somehow still be unbalanced.

    • @mvjbass9561
      @mvjbass9561 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He was taking it a little slower on the left side to avoid the lunge chain, but still, yes.

    • @quinnlee-miller9792
      @quinnlee-miller9792 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nyx is right there homie

  • @miahmagick
    @miahmagick ปีที่แล้ว +30

    My favorite thing about this run is, no matter who you like in Conquest's roster, you're gonna get an opportunity to see them do cool things. Nyx has been killing it! Looking forward to a map that gives Selena a greater chance to shine. :)

  • @generalsour1221
    @generalsour1221 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    18:36 a shame that the GGG mod didn't change this abomination of a line. i don't know if the mod actually changed any of the in-combat dialogue, but regardless, i don't really think getting injured instead of killed by an enemy soldier would be sufficient to grant you an immediate epiphany that the country you've spent most of your life hating is actually justified

  • @calregretsthis
    @calregretsthis ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It's crazy just how intricately you've planned and routed out this run. Stuff like purposely not getting Corrins stone rank up until just after this Kaze kill is extremely cool to see

    • @maagic2031
      @maagic2031 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Zoran's optimization feels like the result of a test tube baby solely raised on dondon vids and indian math tutorials

    • @asmontosborne3111
      @asmontosborne3111 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@maagic2031 I skipped "'s optimization" and that made this comment a lot better

  • @cartooncritic7045
    @cartooncritic7045 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shout-outs to the music for the Sevenfold Sanctuary that only plays during one map in each path. It's probably the most criminally underrated piece of music in Fates, or at least I don't see nearly as many people talk about it compared to the more popular songs in this game.

  • @alexread6767
    @alexread6767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ... I'm rewatching these videos and it just occurred to me. Kaze's room uses a chain of units with Lunge and Debuffs so it's hard to safely approach without being overwhelmed - which is ALSO what Saizo's room uses in Ryoma's chapter. The two brothers use the same strategy.

  • @wishonpleiades6288
    @wishonpleiades6288 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    yoooo Silas got a point of magic

  • @TopRamenNewdal
    @TopRamenNewdal ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Gearing up for my first lunatic run of conquest after playing on hard mode a bunch, these videos give me the motivation I need.😎

  • @indigoli9220
    @indigoli9220 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Imo this is the first map conquest lunatic decides to really screw you with enemy equipped skills. Love to see the excellent play around them in this run!

  • @Lucas17031
    @Lucas17031 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    47:23
    Happy honeymoon to him i guess? Or staying home to raise Percy, idk

  • @aperson6505
    @aperson6505 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always find 1 luck levels absolutely hilarious

  • @maxechilsemptyspace7184
    @maxechilsemptyspace7184 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A nice note of the change of the GGG script is the implication that Garon sent Corrin to Hoshido with the Ganglari with the purpose of getting Corrin the Yato. Also, though it's not a change to the script, I forgot how the Rainbow Sage chooses to die to avoid the dragon madness that plagues old dragons of the FE series (and also is relevant to a different dragon in this game).

  • @brunaolinto560
    @brunaolinto560 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Therapist: Nostank Nyx is not real, she cannot harm you
    Nostank Nyx:
    In all seriousness, I’m really excited for next map. Chapter 12 is one I always struggled to get all the side objectives (chests, Flame Shuriken, Ryoma kill), to the point where I just forget killing Ryoma and go straight in for the escape path. Since all your videos of this run up until that point involve getting the side objectives, I can only imagine you’ll do all of them, and I can’t wait to see it being pulled out!
    With Arthur (and soon Mozu) hitting the bench, will we get back to Odin Dark gaming? Laslow is coming around, they do have a friendship and Strong Riposte is *chef’s kiss* 👀
    Who will Kaze marry? I’m guessing it’s Beruka, since that 1 Turn for 1K video had that insane Midori with Trample/Life and Death/Spendthrift.

    • @GIR177
      @GIR177 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ch12 Ryoma isn't that hard to deal with because he only has 22 speed. Camilla starts with 19 and gets 4 more with C support with Selena for 23. You'll only need 4 extra points from other sources to double him (tonic + meal, Laslow's Fancy Footwork, and/or Azura's Inspiring Song), then give Camilla the Dual Club and you have lobster bisque. You just have to take Vantage and his crit rate into account.

    • @jonathanlgill
      @jonathanlgill ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apply Heartseeker to Ryoma (might need to break one of the pots at his side first). If possible, get Poisonstrike+defuffs onto Ryoma with an attack from Kaze. Camilla with Dual Club; sing.

  • @richroberts7512
    @richroberts7512 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brutal that they have the ability to change the script but they still keep the ever-clunky "It can't be helped' line in. I can accept that I, a terminally online idiot, am too-aware of that turn of phrase.

    • @thekiss2083
      @thekiss2083 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel the same way about Rinkah's death quote, "The way of peace is....Corrin's path..." 🤣 How could you leave that clunker in there

  • @lystia
    @lystia ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i swear your thumbnails just keep getting better

  • @Apollo885
    @Apollo885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *please* let this run make it all the way through. I'd be devastated if you go distracted or bored halfway through, and I KNOW these video's must be a chore and a half to make. There is no FE content even close to this quality besides your own runs through 3 houses. Thanks so much for keeping this series interesting!

  • @ScubaLuigi
    @ScubaLuigi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought this was still port dia, because WHY DID THEY USE THE SAME TOWN FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE CHAPTERS

  • @Magicdfox
    @Magicdfox ปีที่แล้ว +12

    god i love this series, the breakdowns and everything are just enjoyable to watch. Great stuff!

  • @quinnlee-miller9792
    @quinnlee-miller9792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to say that your guides has completely changed how I play Conquest; I actually just beat Conquest Lunatic last night using Merchant Mozu, and despite using the rescue staff strategy, I really felt like I had accomplished a rough task, and a lot of my accomplishment came from how my view of the gameplay changed.
    From Nosferatu tanking, utilizing dual strikes in chains to kill groups of enemies, playing aggressively instead of turtling, reclassing options for people like Elise, not to mention how each of these in turn facilitate other great benefits, your guides are incredibly informative and transformative.
    I’m going to go through again, this time not using Leo, Camilla or Xander, as they were a hefty crutch imo (barring join chapters) and I’d like to use other characters I don’t usually use! Elise is fine, because she needs to train to get to Camilla’s level, and a lot more child units will be getting used.
    Thanks again for the wonderful content! Hoping we get to 5k soon:D

  • @maverick5169
    @maverick5169 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Beruka is growing quite speedy, and she is in a slow class

  • @RSimpkinuk57
    @RSimpkinuk57 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What was the old woman down at the harbor babbling about? If the ascent to the Sanctuary is so deadly, like our highest Himalayan mountains, K2 maybe, even without the Hoshidans waiting at the top, then how come both armies made it up intact?

  • @zacharybrown3010
    @zacharybrown3010 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    keep making this series it's awesome

  • @ahuman6901
    @ahuman6901 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome work as always!

  • @masterkuja9137
    @masterkuja9137 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Zoran, I have a question for you. I noticed there is a lot of 90% displayed hit hates, So.....how many times you reset until the perfect run appears?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don’t recall for sure, but I think on this one it was 6 or 7 times. There's some dicey stuff on the left side in the first few turns, and I remember one time Felicia missed with Freeze, which was a real bummer.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, that was a nice clear for this map. Also, curious to see who will be kaze's promised wife xD

    • @MarceloKatayama
      @MarceloKatayama ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think Beruka, but I don't know

  • @TheLonelyNihilego
    @TheLonelyNihilego ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wish Rinka would join after this chapter especially because she has a cool design and this is the last time you see her in conquest (for some reason)

    • @quinnlee-miller9792
      @quinnlee-miller9792 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's likely convinced Nohr isn't as bad as she thought, and withdrew Fire Tribe support. At the very least , Rinkah saw Corrin making a very real effort to be good and trusted they would win eventually.
      As to why she doesn't join you, I personally think it's because she has innate access to Blacksmith, which can nab you a ton of Hoshidan weapons that can be sold for a mint; marry her off to Kaze, and Midori has something like a 50% chance at max luck to get these free weapons thanks to her personal skill.
      Add in the two maps with infinitely spawning, pathetically easy enemies such as Siegberts paralogue and the Faceless in the Endless Stairway (if they drop stuff), and you could easily aquire ten, if not hundreds of thousands of gold, just for pairing two characters who go insanely well together.
      The only other way to combo this is FCorrin with the Oni Savage talent, and much less likely, capture an Oni Savage (who has garbage growths) or Kumegara and make them a Blacksmith.

  • @marcogomez653
    @marcogomez653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always look forward to new videos!

  • @jamesthecringemaster439
    @jamesthecringemaster439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know you show us the unit preps and everyone deployed, but do you think you could also show us the supports you got briefly along with the money you have spent and have left. I can't thank you enough for making this series as I'm playing along the best I can, so I don't want to forget or miss anything (I almost didn't notice the supports gained in the last chapter). Even if I did, I could cut some slack and play bonus maps for stuff, but I try not to.

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out the thread on SA, linked in the description!

    • @jamesthecringemaster439
      @jamesthecringemaster439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Zoran501 this is what I get for not reading the description. I should have known. Oops. Thank you again Zoran!

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one of the most cheesable maps in the game. at least it's fairly challenging though, unlike the other route versions.

  • @double2254
    @double2254 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite clear of this map was the Odin nostank demonstration
    “Hey this is chapter 11, Odin killed all the western enemies on chapter 10 and I pumped him full of drugs. Let’s go.”

  • @drew_gon1617
    @drew_gon1617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d imagine a fix around getting more mag is having Felicia cooking a +mag meal, intentional debuffs, hilarious
    Honestly I am a bit disappointed Hinoka’s backup flyers don’t keep winged shield, but you’re right on the point of fast rally spd and flying healers, good trade off I suppose, but potent potion would be silly~
    Although I do enjoy the samurai, they give some nice environmental storytelling that I enjoy
    Thought speaking of silly, A miracle diviner is funny, with Quixotic + luck taker, a base 15-25% to live
    Everyone else is all right, i do think I’ve captured a counter archer before, but I would be lying if I said I ever use them lol

  • @skeletor959
    @skeletor959 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Zoran is handing out love interests and best friends, I would also join the purple team.

  • @ungulatemanalpha
    @ungulatemanalpha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Out of curiosity, is there another good choice to deal with the lunge chain here apart from having a massive Dual Strike from Effie (or Camilla/Silas, if they're on that side) kill the initial ninja?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's definitely possible to just tank it with Javelin Effie/Silas or Hand Axe Camilla/Beruka/maybe Arthur. If they don’t one-shot, they'll probably need healing items

  • @anathema9124
    @anathema9124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos. I love conquest's restrictions and I wish more fire emblem games were like this. I wish Awakening or Birthright or Revelation had a no grind mode. I know I can just choose to not use them but it's not the same.

  • @gangstersamurott2511
    @gangstersamurott2511 ปีที่แล้ว

    well appearantly I have to pay to view the forum thread now

  • @valemontgomery9401
    @valemontgomery9401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part of me kinda wishes Corrin would actually KILL the Sage, but I guess a script mod can only do so much without devolving into telling and not showing.

    • @thekiss2083
      @thekiss2083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Iago shows up for a Palpatine "dewit" moment

  • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
    @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa ปีที่แล้ว

    That feel when no new Zoran vid yet :(

  • @Tez365
    @Tez365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you capture kaze and get vantage?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alas, no

  • @DavidKyokushin
    @DavidKyokushin ปีที่แล้ว

    This map really makes me wonder why Rinkah isn't playable in Conquest. She basically has the same motivation and feelings as Kaze, but just never comes back

    • @Zerorenren4761
      @Zerorenren4761 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rinkah hates Nohrians, even on BR she still hates Corrin because of his nohrian creation on her Supports(unless you continue it)

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be nice to get an Oni Savage to work with in Conquest, but Fates sticks hard with its equal gender balance sans Corrin, and Rinkah would upset that, and she would be joining right after you got a bunch of axe units in the previous chapter.

  • @melancholymercury
    @melancholymercury ปีที่แล้ว

    So can a unit can have an A+ support with one character and and S support with another?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @melancholymercury
      @melancholymercury ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zoran501 Thanks. I had thought that you could only have one or the other.

  • @sprasle
    @sprasle ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my least favorite chapters in the game for sure, but as always seeing how you handled it was impressive and super entertaining.

  • @xyztrey5153
    @xyztrey5153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire Emblem-ology 101

  • @davidnelson3316
    @davidnelson3316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy sending a nosferatu mage into the archer room in this map. The rest of it is kind of eh

  • @robertyates5919
    @robertyates5919 ปีที่แล้ว

    🄿🅁🄾🄼🄾🅂🄼 😴