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Sorry dude but only in Bollywood movies. Facts are since last summer the Chinese PLA have being walking into Indian territory for fun and taken over land in Ladakh, Galwan and Arunachal Pradesh. Rajnath Singh has already admitted in parliament how China has taken over 38,000, sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While many western news channels report China have also taken control off Galwan and built 100 new homes In Arunachal Pradesh. We can deny as much as we want but these are the facts. China has been aggressive while India has being defensive and at times desperate to resume dialogue as only option to solve the matter with China. Modi media can work hard day and night to cover up and fool the nation, but truth is Modi is too afraid to utter the word China let alone counter them on the battlefield.
Surinder Nagi Bhai, mujhe India se koi problem nahi hai. I just don’t believe in modi/BJP controlled Indian media.Ye dono logo ko chutiya bana rha hai. Modi sarkar aur uska chumcha Bipin Rawat ne apni zameen ka tukda Chinese aage besh diya hai! Disengagement means, China can have what it has taken but please don’t advance and take more land - jo Rajiv Gandhi sahib bhi Bol raha hai. Pori Western media/press bhi report kar raha hai kaise China ne Ladakh, Galwan aur Arunachal Pradesh me India ki zameen pe kabza kiya hai. Bhai, jab Modi sarkar ek din hatam hogi, pir pata chalega kya damage hogeya hai.
Rakesh Samyal Says a Indian who’s country receives world most international Foreign aid and is home to worlds most famous and richest beggar Bharat Jain.
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Defence modernization hopefully is in action and not for show...we had ministers who had a clear cut plan of having no tenders ever...and certain parties want 100's of basic aircraft rather than having powerful fully loaded aircrafts....anyways army was scavenging for snow uniforms....what ever Division/Theater was formed did it work in this time of need? so many questions in terms of strategy is to be answered. I think a good nation would never say we were surprised my enemy walked into my territory, rather they should say we have foiled an attempted land grab. Till then relentless focus is required. Also focus should be on bhutan nepal and bangladesh.
Fifty years ago, China's 90,000 square kilometers of inherent territory was once the place where Tibetans in China lived, and the territory was actually controlled by India. Where else does India need to cede Chinese territory? Does India want Tibet? India should read history. China hopes that the surrounding environment will be stable. India invaded and occupied 90,000 square kilometers of territory in southern Tibet of China. India invaded and occupied Sikkim. India separates Pakistan from Bangladesh. It also hopes that India can restrain itself. I think India India is very cute. I hope that the two peoples can live in peace in the future. All political parties in India will fight without affecting peace.
@@lnabo5422 More than fifty years ago China massacred millions of Tibetans and took Tibet which was an independent Kingdom. China today occupies area greater than Switzerland in Akshai Chin and also childishly claim Arunachal pradesh. China also occupies illegally parts of Kashmir given by Pakistan as a token of gift. Today China also occupies Hindu sacred place of Mount Kailash in Tibetan which had the history of Tibetans and Hindu living together. But I don't want war let the China give Akshai China and Kashmir to India to which it legally belongs and 3 billion people can live in peace❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@shekhar6267 India has been occupied by Britain for hundreds of years. British troops invaded and occupied Chinese territory. What is the relationship between Tibetans and Indians? Because this mountain is so long, Tibetans are not Indians at all, and their appearance can be distinguished, let alone the massacre of the Chinese. Is there evidence? The British massacred millions of India, this is the evidence. You said that is where Tibetans live. This has nothing to do with your India. The history of Tibet is Chinese territory. For one hundred years, India has been a British colony. It has nothing to do with Tibet. The British occupation of Tibet has nothing to do with India. India wants to inherit the British invasion, but forgets that India also suffered from the British invasion. For decades, southern Tibet has been a plain controlled by Indian aggression. Kashmir cannot survive in the mountains. The history of Kashmir is not Indian territory at all. The territory of India is strange, the territory is full of greedy shapes.
@@shekhar6267 One hundred years ago, when Britain invaded India, it invaded southern Tibet of China. If India recognizes that southern Tibet is Indian territory, how could India, which was invaded by Britain a hundred years ago, invade China's southern Tibet? Remember, the British who slaughtered India, not China, which was invaded by Britain. We are all victims. Britain and the United States are a team, but today India is kissing Britain and the United States, forgetting history, and people who forget history. shameful. Please re-read the history and don’t be brainwashed by your politicians.
I expected that after kargil, we should always b prepared. But mumbai attacks then pathankot and now chinese intrusion sadly proves that we haven't learned anything from our mistakes
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Very Authintic talk,with no hyper atittuted.Nitin ji excellent coverage alwys..I'm a local remember meeting col.dinny at pangong lake on duty few years back.while talking ,He said he was in the same class in college with the son of my internationally famous friends Shaji karuna,we were in Ftii 1974.....Col.Dinny ,I remember that you want to make films,now you are retired.let us make film....Julay and jai hind.
Excellent ground reality of the area between our 2 countries. China is the aggressor and India being defender done the best possible Kudos to Armed Forces and Political leaders of NDA.
Completely respect and appreciate the views of the two discussants. I salute Col (R) Dinny’s service to the nation. My only concern is that by giving up occupied heights of the Kailash Range, India might have given up its only bargaining chip vis a vis Depsang, which is the real threat. The hopes that disengagement will occur over time at other points in due course, are based on blind faith.
The inference the captain shares is very happy experience that India's strength has been proved over the mighty dragon. Congratulations to both the Kawana and the leaders. Jai Bharat.🙏🙏🙏
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Mr Rajiv Ghandi is fantastic. He is the only man who has the courage to speak up against Modi and overall truth in India. Thanks to coward Modi who is scared to utter the word “China” the Chinese have taken control in Ladakh, Galwan, Kailash heights, Pangong and have also taken over and built 100 new homes in Arunachal Pradesh. However let’s give Modi a break after all a poorly equipped India military don’t have the technology nor capacity to match China so besides surrender does not have much options or else China will advance and take over Saichen and who knows Srinagar.
If it takes 4:05 minutes with so much umming and arring to bring in the guest, it gets a bit boring. Col. Dinny has an amazing and pleasant personality, very well done sir.
Ranbir ji, we need not worry about "The Print". Audience always take the channel and that journalist Seka Gupta. He is not at all fair and biased journalist. He is suitable to be male dancer because of his hands moment
Col Santosh Babu MVC and his brave soldiers have done us very proud. Dushman ko Yeh Batado ki Dushmani hai Kya 'Tell the Enemy the True Price of Enmity ' Also our gratitude to Establishment 22 - SFF . - Tashi Delek --Jai Bharat Jai Tibet
India did well to deter China. Alike, thanks to Chinese leadership - for taking India seriously. Kudos China for this mature approach of realizing that India is not a pushover. No stupid actions happened eventually .. from either sides. Indian Army & PLA- both deserve a bow. Thanks to both sides for averting a military actions in ecologically vulnerable high Himalayan region.
Thank you for this wonderful and deeply insightful discussion. This face-off has certainly added to the Indian Army's tactical experience in Ladakh region and most importantly dismissed the Chinese bogey forever. While I don't see China attempting this a third time, it definitely won't help to give them the slack.
Greatest Gain for India : Military preparation went hyperbolic with lightening speed. Be it DRDO, HAL & other private players developed capabilities of defence upgradation & mfg towards self reliance. 35 missiles in 30 days - Unbelievable.
i feel the whole episode shows that Chinese are worried about Indian infrastructures development along the LAC and change of status of ladakh as union territory.
I agree with Col Dinny that we should build infrastructure along the LAC forward areas..Infrastructure and occupation is the best way to reinforce our claims on disputed areas on the LAC
Even though its just the start but India's gain contributes towards more confidence to India in all the services and Industries including the common person to be cautious to Chinese propaganda and Psychological warfare/ Lawfare.
In my opinion, one more very significant and solid gain is the confidence of Defense leadership on the political leadership has been reinforced. Whatever we know from the past, this aspect was a little shaky earlier
Infrastructure and support needs to be improved across the entire length of the Northern areas. This should include improvements to roads, rail, bridges, airports, heliports, hospitals, bases, outposts, trails, and staging areas. Not just near the LAC but across the entire Northern states.
Excellent discussion Nitin and thanks Col Dinny! About loss of territory by India and 1959 Chinese claim line- the point is- if we treat our 1954 official map of India as sacrosanct, then Chinese have occupied entire Aksai Chin and a large part of Ladakh after 1962 and a some more till 2014. After 2014, there is no "loss" (actually ingression). So have we "lost" that territory which we claimed as ours or are we talking of loss of territory compared to what we are having it under our effective control? Patrolling rights ( within our own official map territory!!) is not a big deal. So our people need clarity on this irrespective of any narrative or political biases. Amit Shah and Rajnath have categorically stated that we want to take back our territory as per our 1954 map. So the position now is- we are ready and capable of holding and pushing Chinese but we have a lot of work to do to get back territory as per our 1954 map. As a further twist, it is another matter whether British India ( and Independent India) indeed have historical clams over Aksai Chin etc. And hence, we need a package solution originally talked about by Deng to settle Ladakh along with Arunachal Pradesh borders and agree on a Modi-Xi line instead of McMohan line! But we ought to thank Xi for this misadventure as - 1. Indian Armed forces have been finally given free hand by GOI to deal with China (and Pakistan). 2. Defense atmanirbharita will be a serious business now and within next 5 to 10 years, we should have a huge domestic defense industry. 3. We are rightly hyphenated now with our Enemy No 1 and Pak is relegated to its level of importance 4. Chinese enjoying huge trade surplus will be a thing of past soon. With this, we have buried the ghosts of 1962 finally. I was hardly 5 years old when 1962 happened but I still have memories of sadness of so many of our soldiers dying and our total defeat at the hands of the Chinese. Our generation will thank Modi for this, as we blamed rightly Nehru for our defeat then. Of course, our Army in 1962 was as good as it is today! Jai Hind!!
@@hanfucolorful9656 British rules India for over 200 years and had a treaty with Tibet. China gobbled up Tibet by force. Did China have right to gobble up Tibet? India have borders with Tibet only and China.
@@surendrabarsode8959 Can China sign a treaty with Punjabi and draw a line somewhere in India near Pakistan? You still longing for your old Master? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty#/media/File:Qing_china.jpg
@@hanfucolorful9656 Do not forget that India had diplomatic relation with Tibet till about 1950s. BTW, why should China sign border agreement with Punjab for Pakistan! We are not longing for our old masters but we have inherited rights of the masters once they left. I am sure you know that China was once ruled by Tibet, if they have taught you the factual history in your schools!!
It is a movement of relief,but we should not loose our gaurd.We should put extra electronic survilance including,eye on sky sattelite monitoring.We should build up extra infra in border area.
A bit too late for that now. China are donkey years ahead of India when it comes down to both development of infrastructure including technology installation in Ladakh etc. The reason why China has been walking into and securing Indian held territory since last summer for fun. Pakistan has also provided crucial human intelligence to China about the region. While Rajnath Singh has already admitted in parliament that China has taken over 38,000 sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While well known western news channels also report China has taken control of Galwan Valley including land in Arunachal Pradesh where it has even built 100 new homes. Like I said a bit too late for hat now, even Indian government and armed forces acknowledge it. What is the disengagement? Lol is just a face saver. India is telling China we don’t want to fight, keep what you have taken but please don’t advance and take more..
Indeed the stand off continues. As usual Modi media is reporting absolute bollox. Facts are what Rajiv Ghandi said, Modi has surrendered Kailash Heights and Pangong fingers to Chinese control with out a fight. While last summer Rajnath Singh has already admitted in front of parliament how China has taken over 38,000 sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While most Western news channels are also reporting China has taken over land in Arunachal Pradesh building 100 new homes. In the coming days and months China will now press ahead for Saichen Glazier, while as usual Modi will refrain from using the word “China” fearing the dragon while Modi media will keep reporting utter bullshit.
Uddhav Pradhan BJP government and it’s controlled media and anchors can keep denying, while clowns like yourself can fall for the bullshit and live in contradiction, this suits China perfectly fine as it quietly sweeps major land and control in Ladakh, Galwan, Kailash Heights, Arunachal Pradesh, Sikkim and Pangong. One day when BJP is replaced by lets say Congress party, all the reality and damage caused by Modi will come clear to your eyes.
I will tell you what China has gained: we cannot patrol now, beyond Finger 3, cannot have any structures north or south of Pangong Tso, and lost Spanggur Tso (the smaller lake that you conveniently forget). They say "temporary" but will make it permanent. Don't forget: they wanted a 20 km buffer zone for a long time, they got 10 km now. They made us talk 9 rounds, even though they killed our soldiers brutally using iron clubs, and we never were able to retaliate (even though we did, we have been forced to give back the heights). Also, BIG distraction game is this: they are forcing us to keep talking of these 10-20 km, so we would _never even think_ of going to Haji Langar and cutting them off saying "ok, nice road you built, it's our land, just pay a toll and we will let you use it!".... We must all read Sun Tzu: "When using our forces, we must seem unable; when we are near we must make the enemy believe we are far away!"
@Shivakumar Sundaram - Exactly. And don’t forget, if India now slows or stops moves to formalize The Quad to appease China, China has turned a tactical status quo to a strategic win.
I am concerned that this buffer zone may develop a permanency. The 1.5 km buffer zone in Galwan shows no sign of continuing to stay temporary. Why do I get the feeling that this is a familiar trick from the Chinese playbook of strategic subterfuge? They wanted this buffer zone. They got it. From past precedent the Chinese have gone back on agreements and taken the "buffer zone" If this new buffer zone is allowed to stay longer are we not acceding to the 1959 Claim Line?
Sir instead of asking what India gained please explain by your experience what India lost by this act leaving alone having lost our brave 20 army personal without a fight.
let us focus on primary education of the over half billion mass of lower indians, because as long as voters are foolish they will vote fools to power and then others will make fools of us.
I used to support the Modi government. But India withdrew its troops, and I was completely disappointed in the Modi government. "Modi government is brazenly compromising 'National Security' & India's 'Territorial Integrity'. This is clear from Defence Minister's statement in Rajya Sabha today on the Chinese Incursions in Eastern Ladakh," Congress chief spokesperson and general secretary Randeep Surjewala said in a presss briefing.
These 2-3 stand-offs have certainly delayed our efforts to take back our territories such as POK.....after abrogation of 370 & 35A. So now we can move forward to retrieve our lost territories along POK. Regarding Chinese side we must be more vigilant now on our Arunachal borders because our infrastructure side have many loop holes which must be taken care of.
For China: Modern self made equipments and new military ideologies trained on remote areas by counterparts from India. For India:. Imported arms tested in the stand off. Foreign companies get their lasted datas in the crisis. India can import more advanced weapons including tanks and aircrafts from foreign countries. China meets threats from borders which are 4000 km away from Beijing India meets threats from borders which in 400 km distance from new Delhi
@UC2pfyx7X972cvPvCDJ6br9g 1100 on google maps. have been there and confirm it is accurate. The contentious point here is not the distance, but the fact that it's just been a sheer waste of resources for both countries with no tangible outcome. Maybe a diversion from negative media for virus, or a show of strength within China. It's definitely shit both countries, especially for soldiers that could have lived without. Peace to you brother. Any fight between two nuclear armed states is just a recipe for disaster. Let's hope it never occurs.
Nitinji there is one thing we all got to miss that they are increasing the cost of our engagement raising the cost . China is well placed in economy but we still have long way to go
Every day from now on is an opportunity to strengthen the defense forces with the best tech that is available now, expand the infrastructure and maintain high political interest. We have lost decades in indecision.
Once more, factual, realistic, informative. Excellent summing up of a complex theatre, from a responsible journalist and experienced former commanding officer with years and miles on the very scene of action. Full marks, Nitin Gokhale and Col. Dhimmi
If finger 4 to 8 is a buffer area, India has factually lost some of its territory, not to the chinese but to the buffer area being made on the indian side of LAC. So HS Panag does have a valid point.
Well if HS Panag says India lost territory between Finger 4 and Finger 8 then he should know because he was Corps Commander when the Chinese walked in and built a mettalled Road upto Foxhole point in 2004 at Finger 4 during Panags watch..Hence if territory was lost it was lost between 1999 to 2009 and Gen Panag is hugely responsible..As Col Dinny here and Abhijhit Iyer Mitra have pointed out Indian army foot patrol couldn't go beyond finger 5 because the chinese would come in and stop the Indian troops..Todays development means the Chinese have agreed not to come in west of Sirijap and cross Indias perception of the LAC..That's a big positive..And India retains its claim upto finger 8
What’s actually happened is that Chinese PLA helped accelerate Indian Army’s demands for equipment, infrastructure improvements and money purses opened by Modiji government. Emergencies like these only bolstered the security of the Nation and increased understanding of maps and appreciation of terrain that our soldiers are protecting
Thank you for clarifying the 1959 claim line thing. But what still bugs me is their Salami Slicing. Everything they do appears to be an incremental forward movement.
You should produce a video to counter/dispute the LATEST narrative from the Chinese side on the China and India encounter in Ladakh. Details please no so much on ideological or general narrative talk. This will keep your channel busy for a while, cos you can produce more than 1 video on this subject.
Nitin ji I'm a regular viewer but Dr Swamy s contradictions have no end.. I'm copy pasting from fb. Kindly enlighten us and remove our doubts. 🙏🙏🇮🇳🙏🙏Today media announces that India and China have completed withdrawal of troops from Pangong Lake area. That Is, India has given up what in June we took going across LAC. But what about Depsang where on our side of LAC the PLA came across and built a pucca Cantonment? Silence!
The most resolute & firm decision taken by Modi to shell out 30,000 crores additional beyond budget for resource mobilization for Army & IAF during such horrible pandemics when most developed countries faced tackling Wuhan virus.
Jhukta Hai Cheen - Jhukaney Wala ChahiyeAs Mao wrote .' Power stems from the barrel of a gun 'For maintaining peace with China India should always keep handy some unyielding / troublesome agenda for China .India can always remain in a threatening posture of Chinese interests by creating obstacles in Gilgit - Baltistan , both militarily and diplomatically . Also , India should keep in hand her very valuable Tibet card . Next big Chinese' Panga ' with India would be over His Holiness The Dalai Lama' 's successor .Tashi Delek
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Really enjoy Col Dinny’s inputs always. He is so grounded, neutral and non-rhetorical. Strictly apolitical and crystal-clear in his exposition.
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BIG SALUTE TO COL DINNY, NITIN GOKHALE AND INDIAN ARMY.
Thank you so much for very insightful, detailed description and information along LAC. Thanks to Col Dinny and Mr Nitin as always
Loved the fact that Colonel's family didn't know that he had been serving in Pangong Tso. That is how soldiers are🙏
But India has lost Pangong Tso fingers 3 to 8 without a bullet being fired. Lol that’s not how soldiers are😂
-47degree: who could bear with howling winds. Indian Army ki Jai ho!
Sorry dude but only in Bollywood movies. Facts are since last summer the Chinese PLA have being walking into Indian territory for fun and taken over land in Ladakh, Galwan and Arunachal Pradesh. Rajnath Singh has already admitted in parliament how China has taken over 38,000, sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While many western news channels report China have also taken control off Galwan and built 100 new homes In Arunachal Pradesh. We can deny as much as we want but these are the facts. China has been aggressive while India has being defensive and at times desperate to resume dialogue as only option to solve the matter with China. Modi media can work hard day and night to cover up and fool the nation, but truth is Modi is too afraid to utter the word China let alone counter them on the battlefield.
@@ImranKhan-eo2hq aarae bhai hum log chiniyon se nipat lengae, aap ne to desh toda tha aur aapna tukda besh diya....
Surinder Nagi Bhai, mujhe India se koi problem nahi hai. I just don’t believe in modi/BJP controlled Indian media.Ye dono logo ko chutiya bana rha hai. Modi sarkar aur uska chumcha Bipin Rawat ne apni zameen ka tukda Chinese aage besh diya hai! Disengagement means, China can have what it has taken but please don’t advance and take more land - jo Rajiv Gandhi sahib bhi Bol raha hai. Pori Western media/press bhi report kar raha hai kaise China ne Ladakh, Galwan aur Arunachal Pradesh me India ki zameen pe kabza kiya hai. Bhai, jab Modi sarkar ek din hatam hogi, pir pata chalega kya damage hogeya hai.
Bhikhari gyan bant rahe hain, lol.
Rakesh Samyal Says a Indian who’s country receives world most international Foreign aid and is home to worlds most famous and richest beggar Bharat Jain.
नितीन सर तुमचं कौतुक करावं तेवढं कमीच आहे. फार आतुरतेने तुमच्या simply Nitin कार्यक्रमाची वाट बघत असतो. तुमचं आणि तुमच्या टीमचे खूप खूप आभार आणि पुढच्या यशस्वी कार्य करीता भरपूर शुभेच्छा. जय परशुराम
The biggest gain is focus on defense modernization.
Defence modernization hopefully is in action and not for show...we had ministers who had a clear cut plan of having no tenders ever...and certain parties want 100's of basic aircraft rather than having powerful fully loaded aircrafts....anyways army was scavenging for snow uniforms....what ever Division/Theater was formed did it work in this time of need? so many questions in terms of strategy is to be answered.
I think a good nation would never say we were surprised my enemy walked into my territory, rather they should say we have foiled an attempted land grab. Till then relentless focus is required.
Also focus should be on bhutan nepal and bangladesh.
Fifty years ago, China's 90,000 square kilometers of inherent territory was once the place where Tibetans in China lived, and the territory was actually controlled by India. Where else does India need to cede Chinese territory? Does India want Tibet? India should read history. China hopes that the surrounding environment will be stable. India invaded and occupied 90,000 square kilometers of territory in southern Tibet of China. India invaded and occupied Sikkim. India separates Pakistan from Bangladesh. It also hopes that India can restrain itself. I think India India is very cute. I hope that the two peoples can live in peace in the future. All political parties in India will fight without affecting peace.
@@lnabo5422 More than fifty years ago China massacred millions of Tibetans and took Tibet which was an independent Kingdom. China today occupies area greater than Switzerland in Akshai Chin and also childishly claim Arunachal pradesh. China also occupies illegally parts of Kashmir given by Pakistan as a token of gift. Today China also occupies Hindu sacred place of Mount Kailash in Tibetan which had the history of Tibetans and Hindu living together. But I don't want war let the China give Akshai China and Kashmir to India to which it legally belongs and 3 billion people can live in peace❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@shekhar6267 India has been occupied by Britain for hundreds of years. British troops invaded and occupied Chinese territory. What is the relationship between Tibetans and Indians? Because this mountain is so long, Tibetans are not Indians at all, and their appearance can be distinguished, let alone the massacre of the Chinese. Is there evidence? The British massacred millions of India, this is the evidence. You said that is where Tibetans live. This has nothing to do with your India. The history of Tibet is Chinese territory. For one hundred years, India has been a British colony. It has nothing to do with Tibet. The British occupation of Tibet has nothing to do with India. India wants to inherit the British invasion, but forgets that India also suffered from the British invasion. For decades, southern Tibet has been a plain controlled by Indian aggression. Kashmir cannot survive in the mountains. The history of Kashmir is not Indian territory at all. The territory of India is strange, the territory is full of greedy shapes.
@@shekhar6267 One hundred years ago, when Britain invaded India, it invaded southern Tibet of China. If India recognizes that southern Tibet is Indian territory, how could India, which was invaded by Britain a hundred years ago, invade China's southern Tibet? Remember, the British who slaughtered India, not China, which was invaded by Britain. We are all victims. Britain and the United States are a team, but today India is kissing Britain and the United States, forgetting history, and people who forget history. shameful. Please re-read the history and don’t be brainwashed by your politicians.
Excellent program and it's really a joy hearing Col.Dinny
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Great journalism! Kodos to StratNewsGlobal & Nitin Ji covering this topic so well.
Biggest gain is we will not be surprised on northern border anymore.
I expected that after kargil, we should always b prepared. But mumbai attacks then pathankot and now chinese intrusion sadly proves that we haven't learned anything from our mistakes
Sure i agree with you
that is overoptimistic, india being a perpetually surprised country. let us wait a hundred years to verify its truth first.
Great insights. Thanks Col Dinny. It's hard to not acknowledge your in-depth knowledge in this subject and your humility.
It is so nice, to hear from two, Ex Army officers !! This portal is most authentic information. Kudos to you all !!
Actually all Ex Service men/ women should play an important part, in giving good service, for the nation, especially in politics, business, social work.
All the best !!
Very Authintic talk,with no hyper atittuted.Nitin ji excellent coverage alwys..I'm a local remember meeting col.dinny at pangong lake on duty few years back.while talking ,He said he was in the same class in college with the son of my internationally famous friends Shaji karuna,we were in Ftii 1974.....Col.Dinny ,I remember that you want to make films,now you are retired.let us make film....Julay and jai hind.
Excellent ground reality of the area between our 2 countries. China is the aggressor and India being defender done the best possible Kudos to Armed Forces and Political leaders of NDA.
Completely respect and appreciate the views of the two discussants. I salute Col (R) Dinny’s service to the nation. My only concern is that by giving up occupied heights of the Kailash Range, India might have given up its only bargaining chip vis a vis Depsang, which is the real threat. The hopes that disengagement will occur over time at other points in due course, are based on blind faith.
The inference the captain shares is very happy experience that India's strength has been proved over the mighty dragon.
Congratulations to both the Kawana and the leaders.
Jai Bharat.🙏🙏🙏
As this crisis seems to get over soon. Please continue your programme and keep the nation informed. Thanks
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Thank you, Col. Dinny
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Mr Rajiv Ghandi is fantastic. He is the only man who has the courage to speak up against Modi and overall truth in India. Thanks to coward Modi who is scared to utter the word “China” the Chinese have taken control in Ladakh, Galwan, Kailash heights, Pangong and have also taken over and built 100 new homes in Arunachal Pradesh. However let’s give Modi a break after all a poorly equipped India military don’t have the technology nor capacity to match China so besides surrender does not have much options or else China will advance and take over Saichen and who knows Srinagar.
If it takes 4:05 minutes with so much umming and arring to bring in the guest, it gets a bit boring. Col. Dinny has an amazing and pleasant personality, very well done sir.
Thank you Mr. Nitin and Col. Dinny for explaining the things happening at India China border areas. Thank you very much. Jain Hind.
Proud of Indian military. Jai Hind !!!
It is pleasure to know about border issues from
It is pleasure to know about the border issues from Nitinji
Excellent vdo...Nitin please educate " The Print" - Gen Penag and the Anchor
Shekhar Gupta of the Print is the BEST !
That is Chandigarh lobby!! They won't change
@@shubhamsonawane3432 not talking about snehesh and Shekar gupta but the half truth toldby general HS Panag on the print.
Ranbir ji, we need not worry about "The Print". Audience always take the channel and that journalist Seka Gupta. He is not at all fair and biased journalist. He is suitable to be male dancer because of his hands moment
They are propagandists they don't stop dont mind
Col Santosh Babu MVC and his brave soldiers have done us very proud.
Dushman ko Yeh Batado ki Dushmani hai Kya 'Tell the Enemy the True Price of Enmity
' Also our gratitude to Establishment 22 - SFF . -
Tashi Delek --Jai Bharat Jai Tibet
Shri Nitin, Love the way Col Dinny add 'Shri' prefix before every name.🙏🏼
Pl keep bringing col dingy and such more resource persons.Its treat to learn from what you discuss.More power to you Nitin sir.
India did well to deter China. Alike, thanks to Chinese leadership - for taking India seriously. Kudos China for this mature approach of realizing that India is not a pushover. No stupid actions happened eventually .. from either sides. Indian Army & PLA- both deserve a bow. Thanks to both sides for averting a military actions in ecologically vulnerable high Himalayan region.
It was not China's intention to take land from India.
Now China may do mischief either in Uttarakhand, Nepal boarder or in North-East.
@Metallus Zorax But the million dollar question is why China actually left if its crying army was so brave and getting all hot food and good stay 😂😂😂😂
Salute Col.Danny.
Very insightful discussion
Thank you gentlemen for the insights🙏
Thank you for this wonderful and deeply insightful discussion. This face-off has certainly added to the Indian Army's tactical experience in Ladakh region and most importantly dismissed the Chinese bogey forever. While I don't see China attempting this a third time, it definitely won't help to give them the slack.
Sir is Indian Army going to vacate occupied Kailash range hights which are in our area?
Great discussion gives a lot of clarity. Can we request a detailed map and discussion on Depsang and Gogra ?
Nitin, thank you very much for this great analysis.
Greatest Gain for India :
Military preparation went hyperbolic with lightening speed. Be it DRDO, HAL & other private players developed capabilities of defence upgradation & mfg towards self reliance. 35 missiles in 30 days - Unbelievable.
Win win not only for the soldiers but also for the loving parents and families.
Thank you for clarity provided. JaiHo.
Salute soldiers & sri Nithin 🙏
i feel the whole episode shows that Chinese are worried about Indian infrastructures development along the LAC and change of status of ladakh as union territory.
@Metallus Zorax tibet will be freed by India from Chinese occupation, you don't worry, India won't stop until that goal is achieved
nice vedio from LADAKH CHINA
Why are you not discussing the Indian withdrawal from the Pansong Tso south side and from high ground positions taken in August. It is uncomfortable?
After this disengagement India should make road to the heights of Kailash mountain ranges for smooth movements of Army.
The Bully has learnt a lesson, that's our biggest gain.
@Metallus Zorax owaisi😂🙏.
Excellent post. We stared at the giant and he has melted away.For now. BTW eternal vigilance and preparedness remains key
Now SE Asian nations too will gain in confidence vis a vis China becoz of India having withstood the Dragon's false claims.
సెల్యూట్ సోల్జర్స్ 🙏
I agree with Col Dinny that we should build infrastructure along the LAC forward areas..Infrastructure and occupation is the best way to reinforce our claims on disputed areas on the LAC
Col Dinni sir explained perfectly
Even though its just the start but India's gain contributes towards more confidence to India in all the services and Industries including the common person to be cautious to Chinese propaganda and Psychological warfare/ Lawfare.
In my opinion, one more very significant and solid gain is the confidence of Defense leadership on the political leadership has been reinforced. Whatever we know from the past, this aspect was a little shaky earlier
As Abhijit I Mitra said: 2 principles established: infrastructure will continue by India and China cannot divert a river ( can build a dam).
Infrastructure and support needs to be improved across the entire length of the Northern areas. This should include improvements to roads, rail, bridges, airports, heliports, hospitals, bases, outposts, trails, and staging areas. Not just near the LAC but across the entire Northern states.
Excellent discussion Nitin and thanks Col Dinny! About loss of territory by India and 1959 Chinese claim line- the point is- if we treat our 1954 official map of India as sacrosanct, then Chinese have occupied entire Aksai Chin and a large part of Ladakh after 1962 and a some more till 2014. After 2014, there is no "loss" (actually ingression). So have we "lost" that territory which we claimed as ours or are we talking of loss of territory compared to what we are having it under our effective control? Patrolling rights ( within our own official map territory!!) is not a big deal. So our people need clarity on this irrespective of any narrative or political biases. Amit Shah and Rajnath have categorically stated that we want to take back our territory as per our 1954 map. So the position now is- we are ready and capable of holding and pushing Chinese but we have a lot of work to do to get back territory as per our 1954 map. As a further twist, it is another matter whether British India ( and Independent India) indeed have historical clams over Aksai Chin etc. And hence, we need a package solution originally talked about by Deng to settle Ladakh along with Arunachal Pradesh borders and agree on a Modi-Xi line instead of McMohan line!
But we ought to thank Xi for this misadventure as - 1. Indian Armed forces have been finally given free hand by GOI to deal with China (and Pakistan). 2. Defense atmanirbharita will be a serious business now and within next 5 to 10 years, we should have a huge domestic defense industry. 3. We are rightly hyphenated now with our Enemy No 1 and Pak is relegated to its level of importance 4. Chinese enjoying huge trade surplus will be a thing of past soon.
With this, we have buried the ghosts of 1962 finally. I was hardly 5 years old when 1962 happened but I still have memories of sadness of so many of our soldiers dying and our total defeat at the hands of the Chinese. Our generation will thank Modi for this, as we blamed rightly Nehru for our defeat then. Of course, our Army in 1962 was as good as it is today! Jai Hind!!
Do you still believe that the British had the right to draw any lines in Asia?
@@hanfucolorful9656 British rules India for over 200 years and had a treaty with Tibet. China gobbled up Tibet by force. Did China have right to gobble up Tibet? India have borders with Tibet only and China.
@@surendrabarsode8959 Can China sign a treaty with Punjabi and draw a line somewhere in India near Pakistan? You still longing for your old Master? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty#/media/File:Qing_china.jpg
@@hanfucolorful9656 Do not forget that India had diplomatic relation with Tibet till about 1950s. BTW, why should China sign border agreement with Punjab for Pakistan! We are not longing for our old masters but we have inherited rights of the masters once they left. I am sure you know that China was once ruled by Tibet, if they have taught you the factual history in your schools!!
Very insightful
Excellent interview. Surely the talk can expanded to other areas. Col. Dinny apparently is more knowledgeable about.
It is a movement of relief,but we should not loose our gaurd.We should put extra electronic survilance including,eye on sky sattelite monitoring.We should build up extra infra in border area.
A bit too late for that now. China are donkey years ahead of India when it comes down to both development of infrastructure including technology installation in Ladakh etc. The reason why China has been walking into and securing Indian held territory since last summer for fun. Pakistan has also provided crucial human intelligence to China about the region. While Rajnath Singh has already admitted in parliament that China has taken over 38,000 sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While well known western news channels also report China has taken control of Galwan Valley including land in Arunachal Pradesh where it has even built 100 new homes. Like I said a bit too late for hat now, even Indian government and armed forces acknowledge it. What is the disengagement? Lol is just a face saver. India is telling China we don’t want to fight, keep what you have taken but please don’t advance and take more..
Have we overcome the 1962 mental block and have moved up a few notches in the eyes of the world as someone who can stand up to the Chinese
WOW JUST WOW HIS FAMILY DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS SERVED IN PANGONG TSO SALUTE SIR🙌
As I understand, the standoff at Depsang, Gogra and Demchok still continue
Indeed the stand off continues. As usual Modi media is reporting absolute bollox. Facts are what Rajiv Ghandi said, Modi has surrendered Kailash Heights and Pangong fingers to Chinese control with out a fight. While last summer Rajnath Singh has already admitted in front of parliament how China has taken over 38,000 sq kilometres land in Ladakh. While most Western news channels are also reporting China has taken over land in Arunachal Pradesh building 100 new homes. In the coming days and months China will now press ahead for Saichen Glazier, while as usual Modi will refrain from using the word “China” fearing the dragon while Modi media will keep reporting utter bullshit.
@@ImranKhan-eo2hq Shut up you troll. India has not surrendered anything
Uddhav Pradhan BJP government and it’s controlled media and anchors can keep denying, while clowns like yourself can fall for the bullshit and live in contradiction, this suits China perfectly fine as it quietly sweeps major land and control in Ladakh, Galwan, Kailash Heights, Arunachal Pradesh, Sikkim and Pangong. One day when BJP is replaced by lets say Congress party, all the reality and damage caused by Modi will come clear to your eyes.
@@ImranKhan-eo2hq you are correct that you are epitome of wisdom and Pakistan is the only country in the world with proven virtue.
Surendar AV No no, that tag goes to India and it’s third grade media. Indian media, Arnab Goswami and Rahul Kanal all deserve Nobel prizes.
don't you think pre emptive indian incursions into Tibet and strategic territory capture going forward would be a good idea?
Time is still not mature to take such drastic measures. It has to be done with international support.
Is the Chinese back down an ominous sign for Taiwan. Want to settle one front before opening another
You should protest against your government and ask why India does not dare to fire the first bullet.
The vdo from ladakh had so much of sound disturbance sir.
I will tell you what China has gained: we cannot patrol now, beyond Finger 3, cannot have any structures north or south of Pangong Tso, and lost Spanggur Tso (the smaller lake that you conveniently forget). They say "temporary" but will make it permanent. Don't forget: they wanted a 20 km buffer zone for a long time, they got 10 km now. They made us talk 9 rounds, even though they killed our soldiers brutally using iron clubs, and we never were able to retaliate (even though we did, we have been forced to give back the heights). Also, BIG distraction game is this: they are forcing us to keep talking of these 10-20 km, so we would _never even think_ of going to Haji Langar and cutting them off saying "ok, nice road you built, it's our land, just pay a toll and we will let you use it!".... We must all read Sun Tzu: "When using our forces, we must seem unable; when we are near we must make the enemy believe we are far away!"
@Shivakumar Sundaram - Exactly. And don’t forget, if India now slows or stops moves to formalize The Quad to appease China, China has turned a tactical status quo to a strategic win.
I am concerned that this buffer zone may develop a permanency. The 1.5 km buffer zone in Galwan shows no sign of continuing to stay temporary. Why do I get the feeling that this is a familiar trick from the Chinese playbook of strategic subterfuge? They wanted this buffer zone. They got it. From past precedent the Chinese have gone back on agreements and taken the "buffer zone"
If this new buffer zone is allowed to stay longer are we not acceding to the 1959 Claim Line?
Disengagement credit goes to strong and intelligent leadership of Army Chief General Naravane
What was the contribution of other developments like Myanmar and reentry of China into Sri Lanka?
I think we should come to an agreement that We as Indians in so many ways have agreed to the Chinese 1959 claim line.
Sir instead of asking what India gained please explain by your experience what India lost by this act leaving alone having lost our brave 20 army personal without a fight.
I am not sure if we have many details for Southern bank or not? @Nitin sir, did we lose the advantage as a bargain for other friction points?
Let's avoid chest thumping and celebrating. Focus on long term strategy, these are tactical events.
Exactly. I sure hope Indian leaders don’t back off strategic moves like formalizing the Quad in attempts to appease China
let us focus on primary education of the over half billion mass of lower indians, because as long as voters are foolish they will vote fools to power and then others will make fools of us.
I used to support the Modi government. But India withdrew its troops, and I was completely disappointed in the Modi government. "Modi government is brazenly compromising 'National Security' & India's 'Territorial Integrity'. This is clear from Defence Minister's statement in Rajya Sabha today on the Chinese Incursions in Eastern Ladakh," Congress chief spokesperson and general secretary Randeep Surjewala said in a presss briefing.
These 2-3 stand-offs have certainly delayed our efforts to take back our territories such as POK.....after abrogation of 370 & 35A. So now we can move forward to retrieve our lost territories along POK.
Regarding Chinese side we must be more vigilant now on our Arunachal borders because our infrastructure side have many loop holes which must be taken care of.
For China: Modern self made equipments and new military ideologies trained on remote areas by counterparts from India.
For India:. Imported arms tested in the stand off. Foreign companies get their lasted datas in the crisis. India can import more advanced weapons including tanks and aircrafts from foreign countries.
China meets threats from borders which are 4000 km away from Beijing
India meets threats from borders which in 400 km distance from new Delhi
Hmm perhaps educate yourself first before posting. Just use Google maps. Correct information is just a click away.
You Google it, By Google map
Beijing to Pangong lake 3500km
New Delhi to Pangong lake less than 500Km
The nearest borders to new Delhi about 290km
@UC2pfyx7X972cvPvCDJ6br9g 1100 on google maps. have been there and confirm it is accurate. The contentious point here is not the distance, but the fact that it's just been a sheer waste of resources for both countries with no tangible outcome. Maybe a diversion from negative media for virus, or a show of strength within China. It's definitely shit both countries, especially for soldiers that could have lived without. Peace to you brother. Any fight between two nuclear armed states is just a recipe for disaster. Let's hope it never occurs.
China has no interesting in war with India for those shit lands.
Don't cross the LAC ,and don't be puppet of American
@@jackytang3683 you mean don't cross into Tibet. Hmm the formal Tibetan government disagrees with you :)
Nitinji there is one thing we all got to miss that they are increasing the cost of our engagement raising the cost . China is well placed in economy but we still have long way to go
India is number one! always win, never lose, soon you will conquer China, then USA, you will be the number one in the universe!
Every day from now on is an opportunity to strengthen the defense forces with the best tech that is available now, expand the infrastructure and maintain high political interest. We have lost decades in indecision.
Can we please do a detailed session on depsang plains?
Which side of lake actually tourists visit and also any fingers number do we go into ?
Excellent 👍
If Lt. Gen. Panag was in this show, we would have got another viewpoint and title of the video would have been opposite.
@Dharmic Science Don't say that about people who have guarded the nation. People can have different opinions, we should respect that.
Once more, factual, realistic, informative. Excellent summing up of a complex theatre, from a responsible journalist and experienced former commanding officer with years and miles on the very scene of action. Full marks, Nitin Gokhale and Col. Dhimmi
I watch many defence experts videos on daily basis..But not one raise Tibet issue as primary problem...
If finger 4 to 8 is a buffer area, India has factually lost some of its territory, not to the chinese but to the buffer area being made on the indian side of LAC. So HS Panag does have a valid point.
Well if HS Panag says India lost territory between Finger 4 and Finger 8 then he should know because he was Corps Commander when the Chinese walked in and built a mettalled Road upto Foxhole point in 2004 at Finger 4 during Panags watch..Hence if territory was lost it was lost between 1999 to 2009 and Gen Panag is hugely responsible..As Col Dinny here and Abhijhit Iyer Mitra have pointed out Indian army foot patrol couldn't go beyond finger 5 because the chinese would come in and stop the Indian troops..Todays development means the Chinese have agreed not to come in west of Sirijap and cross Indias perception of the LAC..That's a big positive..And India retains its claim upto finger 8
@@jayantochatterjee6413 : Yes the way HS Panag has been talking , he doesn't seem to be reliable. I'm much relieved to hear what you mentioned.
sir i think this was done by china to relieve some pressure
from pak created by india on PoK ..what do you think..?
ASK ABHINANDHAN
What’s actually happened is that Chinese PLA helped accelerate Indian Army’s demands for equipment, infrastructure improvements and money purses opened by Modiji government. Emergencies like these only bolstered the security of the Nation and increased understanding of maps and appreciation of terrain that our soldiers are protecting
Thank you for clarifying the 1959 claim line thing.
But what still bugs me is their Salami Slicing. Everything they do appears to be an incremental forward movement.
You should produce a video to counter/dispute the LATEST narrative from the Chinese side on the China and India encounter in Ladakh. Details please no so much on ideological or general narrative talk. This will keep your channel busy for a while, cos you can produce more than 1 video on this subject.
Nitin ji I'm a regular viewer but Dr Swamy s contradictions have no end..
I'm copy pasting from fb. Kindly enlighten us and remove our doubts. 🙏🙏🇮🇳🙏🙏Today media announces that India and China have completed withdrawal of troops from Pangong Lake area. That Is, India has given up what in June we took going across LAC. But what about Depsang where on our side of LAC the PLA came across and built a pucca Cantonment? Silence!
The most resolute & firm decision taken by Modi to shell out 30,000 crores additional beyond budget for resource mobilization for Army & IAF during such horrible pandemics when most developed countries faced tackling Wuhan virus.
I was looking for the information on southern bank of Pangong Tso.
Why india didn't make road between finger 3 and 4 during this period
Great analysis by both Mr. Nitin Gokhale and Col. Dinny. Thank you so much
Jhukta Hai Cheen - Jhukaney Wala ChahiyeAs Mao wrote .' Power stems from the barrel of a gun 'For maintaining peace with China India should always keep handy some unyielding / troublesome agenda for China .India can always remain in a threatening posture of Chinese interests by creating obstacles in Gilgit - Baltistan , both militarily and diplomatically . Also , India should keep in hand her very valuable Tibet card . Next big Chinese' Panga ' with India would be over His Holiness The Dalai Lama' 's successor .Tashi Delek