Definitely gonna grab one of these used next year when the next generation of Titleist Drivers drop. Too many good reviews and literal quotes of “the greatest driver ever made”
I've been using TSR3 for 2 years now. My SS is around 106, my miss strike is toe and I have the weight Slightly toe. I miss more fairways than I should when I'm not my best, usually hooks with occasional huge block right. Probably need to consider TRS2 for some more spin and forgiveness. Thanks.
The TSR3 would be the best option to potentially get your longest drives but unless you are a very good driver of the ball with good consistent strike and also head dynamics then the TSR2s increased forgiveness and spin profile would most likely be a better 'on average' option 👍🏻
Jay- which drivers do you think are worth testing for average during speed of 90mph between Titleist, Taylor made and callaway? I hadn’t considered totelist but your reviews suggest otherwise
😊 One man's rubbish is another man's treasure 😊 I like the clean looks, although I'm sure an avid Cobra or Taylormade fan would definitely see the design and colours used as boring 😊 Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
@AskGolfNut My bad miss is a high toe, low spin, pull hook which is either OB or close to it. My heel side miss is a push fade. It is usually in the rough and playable, but almost never OB. Would the TSR3 with the weight in the toe help protect me from that wicked hook OB by minimizing the draw gear effect?
Without seeing and understanding your swing personally, I'd have to give an educated guess..... Yes normally the movement of the weight towards the toe side of the club allows for less head rotation and also decreased gear effect from toe based strikes.... Again this is a generalisation so would want to know your detailed delivery data / characteristics before making a more definitive answer 👍
Went for my driver fitting this morning, tested existing Mizuno STX, Stealth 2, Ping G430 Max, Paradym and TSR 3, TSR 3 wound up working best for me, best distance and dispersion.
The TSR3 out of all of the rest is the lowest spinning design so should potentially go longer. The fact that it was also the straightest shows just how good the club is, or at least how well it was custom fitted to you, so great news on the new big stick in the bag 👍🏻
That’s interesting. I went for a fitting today and tried the same 4 drivers as you. I was a little longer with the Ping but gave up a little distance for accuracy. With the Titleist I was hitting the middle of the fairway with almost every drive. So I went with the TSR 3 and can’t wait to try it on the course!
@AskGolfNut In regards to moving the weight in the TSR3 to behind the strike area, would a driver with a moveable weight like the Ping G430 have the same effect by moving the weight to behind the typical strike area?
If would but different weighted drivers react differently around the CG axis of the shaft so it would be very worthy of a test. Basically there is normally 2 schools of thought regarding weight movements. 1. Changes release patterns (dace rotation) 2. Moves effective CG towards to the strike point to reduce gear effect tilt axis. (this option has the result though of not favourable efficiency numbers). Titleist choose to run the 2nd school of thought, where ping run more of the 1st 👍
Hi Erik, being totally honest due to the lack of sales of this unique club and therefore potential appetite for views, I didn't really look into sourcing the TSR4. I will though if I get sufficient requests for it. The tests I do take a long time to collect the data at quite the deficit to my ageing body 😊 so being totally honest, I'd want to be fairly sure it'd be worth my while before doing it 👍👍
Great reviews. Currently play the TSR2 at 45", +4g heavier weight and its just stupid easy to hit. You can see the impact marks on the face and ive used all of it, and it just goes!!
Hi hbyrdut, you can but the spin model is very very sensitive to human use. As in at that, baseline spin profile any miss hits that encourage any vertical gearing can drastically effect distance also the lower the spin profile the greater the potential for tilt axis curvature. 👍
Am tempted to get the TSR2....Currently have the PXG GEN 5 and the SIM 2 MAX.....omg I love new golf things I am soooo addicted...lol....cheers from Canada
@@AskGolfNut Can you tell me if the Mizuno driver you tested is on par with the TSR lineup? I have a chance to buy the Mizuno ST Z 220 for a good price but scared to pass on the tsr .
The new ST230 series is every bit as good as anything else, as is everything else as good as those. The main difference between all the premium brands is basically the quality of the fitting as getting the correct head and shaft combination will be the determining factor. The STZ220 is an older model so won't quite have the distance profile that the new one has but should be every bit as forgiving though 👍
Thanks Jay. I hit the TSR3 but not sure it's forgiving enough for me. I like the look of the TSR2 but it spins too much. In your opinion with the same shaft, how would this compare to the ST-Z 230 speed and accuracy wise? I have the original ST-Z and love it but looking for an upgrade. No option for me to hit them side by side, or in my preferred shaft.
Wow thats a tricky one Tony. Its all guesswork I'm afraid and my answer also won't help that much. I've had experience with both sides of the coin where people have found either or better than each other depending on the fitting and swing in question. They are both really really solid options. The 2 and Z are very close to each other, the Z in the Hulk Shaft will give you the best possible spin numbers without going crazy on the shaft. The Z is a very stable head. You wouldn't be wrong to go with either....
@@AskGolfNut I get it Jay. Currently have a Venus TR Red in the TSR, think a Blue might be better to help reduce launch and spin. Just hard to find anywhere that has the options to try. Going by what you said in your ST-Z 230 video, if it's as fast as anything out there (i.e. the TSR3) but is more stable and forgiving (like the TSR2) then the Mizuno should be a good bet?
Well, those results are how this driver (with that shaft) works for you, and your swing. If you got fitted for it, you'd probably get a higher spinning shaft. For me there's no low spin issues with the TSR3. If anything I'd try and find a lower spinning shaft for it.
As always a review is only what one person finds at the time of filming to give an opinion. That opinion isn't always right just what they've seen themselves. 👍
@@AskGolfNut I know it can get repetitive talking about driver fitting, but there are people who don't understand a review is an opinion. Opening up a bit your setup and how it fits your swing, would produce a better review imo.
I was very curious about this one. Thanks for doing all three TSR's on the same day and releasing them in short succession - makes comparing easier and more valid. 👍 I actually got fit for TSR3 (9 degrees) last week on a Titleist demo day with a Titleist expert fitter and a very experienced all-round fitter - a very nice experience. My baseline old Callaway Epic Sub Zero was spinning in the 1800/1900's, so low spin mishits went VERY far left, which is what I see on course. The TSR3 with Tensei AV Blue 65S straightened comparable misses out significantly, and gave a better flight and dispersion on normal shots. Spin in the 2200's and nice flight. Then they discussed among themselves, and suggested I tried the Graphite Design Tour AD UB6 S (premium option). WOW! 😍Suddenly I had a complete connection with the head, shaft all through the swing from the first go. It was a transformative feeling. It simply felt like nothing I have ever tried - in a very good way🥰. The balls I hit almost touched each other on the Trackman screen. Not longer than the Tensei, but much tighter, and MUCH more fun to hit! 🤩 I would have been quite content with the Tensei, but I am not sure I can go back, now that I have tasted the forbidden fruit of the Graphite Design. 🤓 So the plan is now to go to a neutral fitter (there are very few of those here in Denmark) to validate the result with the TSR3, and based on your reviews on TSR2 & TSR3, I will insist on also trying TSR2, as I am NOT a perfect ball striker(!), so I need to investigate if the TSR2 is the better overall choice for me. I intend to compare to the Mizuno 230 ST-Z and maybe the Paradym, And first and foremost, I will have a very high focus on the shafts for each of them, as I apparently am quite shaft sensitive. 🧐
Always good to get a really good informative fitting experience as unfortunately they are seldom common nowadays. People can learn so so much, not just what they need, but more importantly why. Seems going the Graphite Design will be an upcharge shaft at the cost of not sure what, but if its going to be a long term purchase then justification is a touch easier. Let me know how you get on with the rest of the fittings, be really interesting to find out how everything compares 👍 Thanks very much for the Super Thanks, its very much appreciated 👍 👍
Been looking at this driver for my next club but after watching the video with the Mizzuno ST230 Max I’m on the fence. If given those clubs to choose from which would you go with?
The two drivers are very much different in their profiles and who they are targeted towards, the TSR3 will be for players needing a lower spin profile (not as aggressive as the TSR4) and the MAX is more forgiveness first but with a more favourable spin profile but not as low as TSR3. 👍
Love the content Jay. Lots of players on the tours I play use the TSR 3 series and I must say generally all hit it mid traj. with fast ball speeds. It’s a nice sounding driver and does perform in the right hands. But I’ll put my Mizuno STZ 230 up against it any day.
Hi Trey, the difference I've found with the 230 over TSR3 is that the miss hit spin profile doesn't quite drop as low. Good for me as I don't quite have enough speed to see the miss hit profile of the TSR3 be beneficial. Where as the 230 miss hits are slightly higher spinning so I don't have the problem with the ball maybe falling out of the air like the risk with TSR3 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thank you. The gearing differences are something I have noticed as well when playing with competitors who use the TSRs. Seems like when off center hits occur, the TSR3 doesn’t have the same level of “correction” the 230 does. Center hits do go well and are fast, but off center hits, not much help there. Collectively, in my opinion, the Mizuno 230 STZ is more consistent overall. Thanks for the amazing content Jay. I know it’s slot of hard work. It’s appreciated.
Love the look, feel and sound of the 3 and with that weight in the slight toe position I get really great results. That being said the 2 was giving me slightly better results, especially on those slight mis-hits. It just doesn’t sound and feel as good as the 3 🏌🏻♂️
@@AskGolfNutt seems your strike pattern is slightly toe biased, did you consider testing the driver with the weight in one of the toe positions, would love to see the differences, if any. What’s also interesting is the vft face design on the 3 is different than the 1,2 &4. In these models the area is more central on the driver face but in the 3 it’s more towards the toe so one would think toe strikes would have better performance and consistency than centered strikes 🤷🏻♂️
I don't mind seeing the draw flight with the driver so I'd most likely keep the weight where it is. The face tech in the 3 is probably why I got on straight away with it over the 2 that much better. On balance though I'd possibly still go TSR2 due to its slightly higher baseline spin profile 👍
Definitely gonna grab one of these used next year when the next generation of Titleist Drivers drop. Too many good reviews and literal quotes of “the greatest driver ever made”
Just been fitted for the tsr3 with tensei black k1 shaft , what a monster
I've been using TSR3 for 2 years now. My SS is around 106, my miss strike is toe and I have the weight Slightly toe. I miss more fairways than I should when I'm not my best, usually hooks with occasional huge block right. Probably need to consider TRS2 for some more spin and forgiveness. Thanks.
The TSR3 would be the best option to potentially get your longest drives but unless you are a very good driver of the ball with good consistent strike and also head dynamics then the TSR2s increased forgiveness and spin profile would most likely be a better 'on average' option 👍🏻
Jay- which drivers do you think are worth testing for average during speed of 90mph between Titleist, Taylor made and callaway? I hadn’t considered totelist but your reviews suggest otherwise
Another class video Jay, many thanks for the time and effort that goes into bringing us these videos
You're very welcome Paul, thanks very much for the kind feedback 👍
Love my tsr3 ❤
Boring looking? Its gorgeous.
😊 One man's rubbish is another man's treasure 😊 I like the clean looks, although I'm sure an avid Cobra or Taylormade fan would definitely see the design and colours used as boring 😊
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
Jay Are you going to test the T100 against the T100s irons?
@AskGolfNut My bad miss is a high toe, low spin, pull hook which is either OB or close to it. My heel side miss is a push fade. It is usually in the rough and playable, but almost never OB. Would the TSR3 with the weight in the toe help protect me from that wicked hook OB by minimizing the draw gear effect?
Without seeing and understanding your swing personally, I'd have to give an educated guess..... Yes normally the movement of the weight towards the toe side of the club allows for less head rotation and also decreased gear effect from toe based strikes.... Again this is a generalisation so would want to know your detailed delivery data / characteristics before making a more definitive answer 👍
Went for my driver fitting this morning, tested existing Mizuno STX, Stealth 2, Ping G430 Max, Paradym and TSR 3, TSR 3 wound up working best for me, best distance and dispersion.
The TSR3 out of all of the rest is the lowest spinning design so should potentially go longer. The fact that it was also the straightest shows just how good the club is, or at least how well it was custom fitted to you, so great news on the new big stick in the bag 👍🏻
That’s interesting. I went for a fitting today and tried the same 4 drivers as you. I was a little longer with the Ping but gave up a little distance for accuracy. With the Titleist I was hitting the middle of the fairway with almost every drive. So I went with the TSR 3 and can’t wait to try it on the course!
@AskGolfNut In regards to moving the weight in the TSR3 to behind the strike area, would a driver with a moveable weight like the Ping G430 have the same effect by moving the weight to behind the typical strike area?
If would but different weighted drivers react differently around the CG axis of the shaft so it would be very worthy of a test. Basically there is normally 2 schools of thought regarding weight movements.
1. Changes release patterns (dace rotation)
2. Moves effective CG towards to the strike point to reduce gear effect tilt axis. (this option has the result though of not favourable efficiency numbers).
Titleist choose to run the 2nd school of thought, where ping run more of the 1st 👍
Hi Jay, I'm one of those weirdos that play TSi4. Will you be reviewing TSr4?
Hi Erik, being totally honest due to the lack of sales of this unique club and therefore potential appetite for views, I didn't really look into sourcing the TSR4. I will though if I get sufficient requests for it. The tests I do take a long time to collect the data at quite the deficit to my ageing body 😊 so being totally honest, I'd want to be fairly sure it'd be worth my while before doing it 👍👍
Great reviews. Currently play the TSR2 at 45", +4g heavier weight and its just stupid easy to hit. You can see the impact marks on the face and ive used all of it, and it just goes!!
Glad you are getting your monies worth from it 😁👍👍
Great review!!
Beautiful driver that a 20 index could play.
Really good clean looking driver that any handicap of golfer could use depending on their individual needs and requirements 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
wonderful review
Can't you get away with low spin if you hit it high enough? Kinda like the when Taylormade launched the SLDR 17 launch and 1700 spin.
Hi hbyrdut, you can but the spin model is very very sensitive to human use. As in at that, baseline spin profile any miss hits that encourage any vertical gearing can drastically effect distance also the lower the spin profile the greater the potential for tilt axis curvature. 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks!
ive been playing this for 5 months now.. love it
Bloomin good stick the 3 👍👍
Am tempted to get the TSR2....Currently have the PXG GEN 5 and the SIM 2 MAX.....omg I love new golf things I am soooo addicted...lol....cheers from Canada
Hi, you don't need another golf club........ Who cares, ignore what, I just said, everyone needs more clubs 🤣🤣
@@AskGolfNut Can you tell me if the Mizuno driver you tested is on par with the TSR lineup? I have a chance to buy the Mizuno ST Z 220 for a good price but scared to pass on the tsr .
The new ST230 series is every bit as good as anything else, as is everything else as good as those. The main difference between all the premium brands is basically the quality of the fitting as getting the correct head and shaft combination will be the determining factor. The STZ220 is an older model so won't quite have the distance profile that the new one has but should be every bit as forgiving though 👍
Thanks Jay. I hit the TSR3 but not sure it's forgiving enough for me. I like the look of the TSR2 but it spins too much. In your opinion with the same shaft, how would this compare to the ST-Z 230 speed and accuracy wise? I have the original ST-Z and love it but looking for an upgrade. No option for me to hit them side by side, or in my preferred shaft.
Wow thats a tricky one Tony. Its all guesswork I'm afraid and my answer also won't help that much. I've had experience with both sides of the coin where people have found either or better than each other depending on the fitting and swing in question. They are both really really solid options. The 2 and Z are very close to each other, the Z in the Hulk Shaft will give you the best possible spin numbers without going crazy on the shaft. The Z is a very stable head. You wouldn't be wrong to go with either....
@@AskGolfNut I get it Jay. Currently have a Venus TR Red in the TSR, think a Blue might be better to help reduce launch and spin. Just hard to find anywhere that has the options to try. Going by what you said in your ST-Z 230 video, if it's as fast as anything out there (i.e. the TSR3) but is more stable and forgiving (like the TSR2) then the Mizuno should be a good bet?
It's a good test, but unfortunately as you said its more of a plunge than a test as you can't demo them. 🤔🤔🤔
Well, those results are how this driver (with that shaft) works for you, and your swing. If you got fitted for it, you'd probably get a higher spinning shaft. For me there's no low spin issues with the TSR3. If anything I'd try and find a lower spinning shaft for it.
As always a review is only what one person finds at the time of filming to give an opinion. That opinion isn't always right just what they've seen themselves. 👍
@@AskGolfNut I know it can get repetitive talking about driver fitting, but there are people who don't understand a review is an opinion. Opening up a bit your setup and how it fits your swing, would produce a better review imo.
or use a spinnier ball
I was very curious about this one. Thanks for doing all three TSR's on the same day and releasing them in short succession - makes comparing easier and more valid. 👍
I actually got fit for TSR3 (9 degrees) last week on a Titleist demo day with a Titleist expert fitter and a very experienced all-round fitter - a very nice experience.
My baseline old Callaway Epic Sub Zero was spinning in the 1800/1900's, so low spin mishits went VERY far left, which is what I see on course.
The TSR3 with Tensei AV Blue 65S straightened comparable misses out significantly, and gave a better flight and dispersion on normal shots. Spin in the 2200's and nice flight. Then they discussed among themselves, and suggested I tried the Graphite Design Tour AD UB6 S (premium option).
WOW! 😍Suddenly I had a complete connection with the head, shaft all through the swing from the first go. It was a transformative feeling. It simply felt like nothing I have ever tried - in a very good way🥰. The balls I hit almost touched each other on the Trackman screen. Not longer than the Tensei, but much tighter, and MUCH more fun to hit! 🤩
I would have been quite content with the Tensei, but I am not sure I can go back, now that I have tasted the forbidden fruit of the Graphite Design. 🤓
So the plan is now to go to a neutral fitter (there are very few of those here in Denmark) to validate the result with the TSR3, and based on your reviews on TSR2 & TSR3, I will insist on also trying TSR2, as I am NOT a perfect ball striker(!), so I need to investigate if the TSR2 is the better overall choice for me. I intend to compare to the Mizuno 230 ST-Z and maybe the Paradym, And first and foremost, I will have a very high focus on the shafts for each of them, as I apparently am quite shaft sensitive. 🧐
Always good to get a really good informative fitting experience as unfortunately they are seldom common nowadays. People can learn so so much, not just what they need, but more importantly why.
Seems going the Graphite Design will be an upcharge shaft at the cost of not sure what, but if its going to be a long term purchase then justification is a touch easier.
Let me know how you get on with the rest of the fittings, be really interesting to find out how everything compares 👍
Thanks very much for the Super Thanks, its very much appreciated 👍 👍
Very thorough review!
Thanks for the kind feedback 👍🏻
Possible for a TSI3 vs TSR3 video?
Hi Rogelio, would you want to see 2 clubs do the same thing? 😁👍
@@AskGolfNut that's what I'm hoping. Keep me from searching eBay 😅
Great review! But I won’t be trading in my TSi3 😜. Could change the shaft (Mitsubishi at the moment), maybe…
Don! Keep it in the bag, no need to change, not large enough difference between them. Just another solid release from Titleist really 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thx Jay! After last week “bomb” 321 yards it is going nowhere 😜
What a rocket drive that was 👍
@@AskGolfNut it was pretty windy, so got a bit of help. And a nice roll out to 23 yards from front of the green
Still bogeyed though yeh? 😁😁😁😉😉
Been looking at this driver for my next club but after watching the video with the Mizzuno ST230 Max I’m on the fence.
If given those clubs to choose from which would you go with?
The two drivers are very much different in their profiles and who they are targeted towards, the TSR3 will be for players needing a lower spin profile (not as aggressive as the TSR4) and the MAX is more forgiveness first but with a more favourable spin profile but not as low as TSR3. 👍
Love the content Jay. Lots of players on the tours I play use the TSR 3 series and I must say generally all hit it mid traj. with fast ball speeds. It’s a nice sounding driver and does perform in the right hands. But I’ll put my Mizuno STZ 230 up against it any day.
Hi Trey, the difference I've found with the 230 over TSR3 is that the miss hit spin profile doesn't quite drop as low. Good for me as I don't quite have enough speed to see the miss hit profile of the TSR3 be beneficial. Where as the 230 miss hits are slightly higher spinning so I don't have the problem with the ball maybe falling out of the air like the risk with TSR3 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thank you. The gearing differences are something I have noticed as well when playing with competitors who use the TSRs. Seems like when off center hits occur, the TSR3 doesn’t have the same level of “correction” the 230 does. Center hits do go well and are fast, but off center hits, not much help there. Collectively, in my opinion, the Mizuno 230 STZ is more consistent overall.
Thanks for the amazing content Jay. I know it’s slot of hard work. It’s appreciated.
Love the look, feel and sound of the 3 and with that weight in the slight toe position I get really great results. That being said the 2 was giving me slightly better results, especially on those slight mis-hits. It just doesn’t sound and feel as good as the 3 🏌🏻♂️
Decisions decisions, which way to go 😊 I think on balance I may go 2 rather than 3 but the 3 feels and looks the best. To my eyes anyway 😊
@@AskGolfNutt seems your strike pattern is slightly toe biased, did you consider testing the driver with the weight in one of the toe positions, would love to see the differences, if any.
What’s also interesting is the vft face design on the 3 is different than the 1,2 &4. In these models the area is more central on the driver face but in the 3 it’s more towards the toe so one would think toe strikes would have better performance and consistency than centered strikes 🤷🏻♂️
How much would a Surefit adapter lie adjustment to drop the high toe at impact change your results?
I don't mind seeing the draw flight with the driver so I'd most likely keep the weight where it is. The face tech in the 3 is probably why I got on straight away with it over the 2 that much better. On balance though I'd possibly still go TSR2 due to its slightly higher baseline spin profile 👍