No. They are too hung up on bloating things with projects to stay relevant. This is the most I've watched about Marvel in a few years. It does nothing to inspire me to watch more either. If they switched to stand alone and dropped the MCU I might care. But I'm done watching shit shows to understand mediocre movies.
If they do secret wars properly absolutely they also need to do World War™ Hulk So many classics still to be done if they’re done well I’m afraid that they’re getting too hung up on STARZ playing roles instead of giving new people an opportunity about the characters not the actors
Disney is stuck with Pirates Of The Caribbean being unfilmable unless Johnny Depp says yes, and now they are doing the same thing to Marvel. They haven't learned a thing.
They really need to let there be a phase 7 that serves as an interlude before their reset (and I hope they take a couple of years off when they do the reset). Another phase will allow for them to tell the proper story that they’re trying to tell with Secret Wars. It would allow for an Xmen film and more. If timing is the main issue, I’d do Doomsday as a story about Doom’s background, plans, motivations, machinations, and how he plans to go about it. Ending with obtaining all but one thing. That thing will then be acquired in Secret Wars, after he takes some sort of Beyonder like character’s power (honestly Beyonder power is probably the last thing he will need anyway). From there he creates Battleworld. Then phase 7 would all take place there or be prequels of sorts that show how certain characters got there. And end it with at least 2 more avengers films. Bringing back at least most of the Fox actors wouldn’t be a bad idea with different minds behind it. So as to let them be in this saga before they get replaced by the reset.
My marvel timeline: 11/27/24 update -The infinity saga is arranged by looper. The following sagas have been added and arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -I added the defenders, fox-verse, agent Carter and misc content to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter saga] 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans saga] •[%-Ghostrider] •[%-Ghostrider: Spirit of Vengeance] •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-8(WIP)] •[%-Helstrom] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[%-Runaways] 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S:1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Venom 3 ($) 57. Ms. Marvel 58. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 59. X-men 97 60. What if S:3 (€) •[%-Fox X-men saga] •[%-The new mutants] •[%-Legion S:1-3] 61. Deadpool 62. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 63. Wolverine and Deadpool 64. Agatha all along 65. The eternals 66. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 67. Thunderbolts(€) -Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…the gifted. -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. Unreleased content as of 11/26/24: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again 7.Ironheart 8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 9.Marvel zombies 10.Kraven 11.eyes of wakanda 12.Xmen97 S:2 13.What if… S:3 14.Wonder man 15.Spider-man Noir 16.Dr. Strange 3 17.Spider-man 4 18.The Midnight sons 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). I am also predicting “What if…” S:3 will take place after X-men ‘97 due to the appearance of the watcher. If this is not the case, I will move it to its correct space in the timeline. @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. Leigion and the new mutants, accompany the fox X-men saga. They have nothing to do with the Deadpool movies or mentioned anywhere alse on the MCU timeline. The ghost rider movies also contribute to the origin of Reyes’ Ghostrider in AOS S:4. Runaways was added because of the Dr. Strange references and mentions the Loa from cloak and dagger. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
Thank you for this! Look at all that shit bloat interconnected with the rest of it. This here is the exact reason I'm done with the MCU. Things were fine when you just had to watch the movies and were done with it. But all this side crap that they absolutely reference in the newer movies. Nope, not happening, I ain't watching the Marvel's because I gotta watch the miss Marvel show. I'm not watching any movies that reference the shows anymore. If I don't have the context I am not bothering with the entire project.
RDJ as Doom is just......no. If he is a Stark Variant = Horrible If he is Victor Von Doom = Atrocious Jackman returning after "Logan" was...something. But RDJ? Abominable.
@@mlongpre100So you give him the reigns. This is the problem with the Ali project, just have these people pick people they do get along with who know how to work with them, their way and tell them where the story has to end to fit into the mcu
If Marvel keeps recasting characters that have died or left the series you cannot care or cheer for them because you know the directors will change it later 😢
You know guys I would love to see a bill and come back a villain that was sealed away by Shang chi’s parents and comes back to see the son and the daughter and says wow look at this the gang so back except two people my condolences and then the kids says you’re lucky they’re not here to kick your ass but then the balance says fools your parents never defeated me. They just sealed me away and you two are not your parents so killing you will be easy. But then the TVA come bring their parents back from the past to help them defeat, their villain, father, mother, son, and daughter, but then, after that, they defeat him, they erased their minds to protect the timeline.
After how Majors was treated, i will never pay to watch another mcu project. Unless they apologize to him and fire Thanos Hawkeye actors who actually did what Majors was accused of
Everyone in this comments section seriously gotta move on from The Avengers, Guardians, & Iron Man They had a good run but they were NEVER a key part of Marvel before The MCU Now that Marvel got the X-Men & Fantastic Four are back at Marvel we can get The REAL MCU and The X-Men and Fantastic Four aren’t unfamiliar faces. They’re Marvel’s Flagship Teams and carried the brand for decades alongside Spider-Man. Their absence is the reason why Marvel even settled on the Avengers & Guardians to begin with. They have them back now. They don’t have to reinvent B & C-listers or even Z-listers anymore. They have the means to keep this train going for another decade and we saw they can cook with the X-men in X-men 97 & Deadpool & Wolverine. Let’s get The Multiverse Saga over with and bring on The Mutant Saga🔥 “Mutants are The Future” ~ Magneto
RDJ as Dr. DOOM is weak, uninspired casting. White washing his character. And an insult to all D Doom fans!!!! Also Dr. Doom is 1 of the top 3 smartest man in Marvel Comics. Iron Man isn't even in the top 10!!!!!
@@miltonbailey4968 Downey won't be the *REAL* Doom , at least if they intend to keep 'THE 4' & the MCU going. There will be a *REAL* Doom in our universe. He'll have a gripe with Wakanda, want all the metals & Fury will have a file on him for sure
Do you think the MCU can return to the heights of the "Infinity Saga"?
No. It was a great ride while it lasted
Idk w/o Stan
No. They are too hung up on bloating things with projects to stay relevant.
This is the most I've watched about Marvel in a few years. It does nothing to inspire me to watch more either. If they switched to stand alone and dropped the MCU I might care. But I'm done watching shit shows to understand mediocre movies.
@@420Yako Lol what involvement do you think Stan had in these films until his death?
If they do secret wars properly absolutely they also need to do World War™ Hulk
So many classics still to be done if they’re done well
I’m afraid that they’re getting too hung up on STARZ playing roles instead of giving new people an opportunity about the characters not the actors
giving RDJ a gazillion dollars is an act of desperation .
Disney is stuck with Pirates Of The Caribbean being unfilmable unless Johnny Depp says yes, and now they are doing the same thing to Marvel. They haven't learned a thing.
@@mlongpre100 it's just 80 million
Were on phase 6???? Last 2 phases were pretty forgettable
Not yet. Phase 5 ends with Ironheart I think.
They really need to let there be a phase 7 that serves as an interlude before their reset (and I hope they take a couple of years off when they do the reset).
Another phase will allow for them to tell the proper story that they’re trying to tell with Secret Wars. It would allow for an Xmen film and more.
If timing is the main issue, I’d do Doomsday as a story about Doom’s background, plans, motivations, machinations, and how he plans to go about it. Ending with obtaining all but one thing.
That thing will then be acquired in Secret Wars, after he takes some sort of Beyonder like character’s power (honestly Beyonder power is probably the last thing he will need anyway). From there he creates Battleworld.
Then phase 7 would all take place there or be prequels of sorts that show how certain characters got there. And end it with at least 2 more avengers films.
Bringing back at least most of the Fox actors wouldn’t be a bad idea with different minds behind it. So as to let them be in this saga before they get replaced by the reset.
I find it funny that wong’s and Stephen strange/Doctor Strange’s actor first names are Benedict
Yep 😂
My marvel timeline: 11/27/24 update
-The infinity saga is arranged by looper. The following sagas have been added and arranged by me.
-All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
-I added the defenders, fox-verse, agent Carter and misc content to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter saga]
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
•[DS@-The Defenders]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
•[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
•[@-Inhumans saga]
•[%-Ghostrider]
•[%-Ghostrider: Spirit of Vengeance]
•[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-8(WIP)]
•[%-Helstrom]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
•[%-Runaways]
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S:1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Venom 3 ($)
57. Ms. Marvel
58. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
59. X-men 97
60. What if S:3 (€)
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
•[%-The new mutants]
•[%-Legion S:1-3]
61. Deadpool
62. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
63. Wolverine and Deadpool
64. Agatha all along
65. The eternals
66. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
67. Thunderbolts(€)
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…the gifted.
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
Unreleased content as of 11/26/24:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again
7.Ironheart
8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
9.Marvel zombies
10.Kraven
11.eyes of wakanda
12.Xmen97 S:2
13.What if… S:3
14.Wonder man
15.Spider-man Noir
16.Dr. Strange 3
17.Spider-man 4
18.The Midnight sons
19.Blade?
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). I am also predicting “What if…” S:3 will take place after X-men ‘97 due to the appearance of the watcher. If this is not the case, I will move it to its correct space in the timeline.
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos.
I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. Leigion and the new mutants, accompany the fox X-men saga. They have nothing to do with the Deadpool movies or mentioned anywhere alse on the MCU timeline. The ghost rider movies also contribute to the origin of Reyes’ Ghostrider in AOS S:4. Runaways was added because of the Dr. Strange references and mentions the Loa from cloak and dagger.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
Well thanks for laying it all out in the comments
Thank you for this! Look at all that shit bloat interconnected with the rest of it.
This here is the exact reason I'm done with the MCU. Things were fine when you just had to watch the movies and were done with it. But all this side crap that they absolutely reference in the newer movies. Nope, not happening, I ain't watching the Marvel's because I gotta watch the miss Marvel show. I'm not watching any movies that reference the shows anymore. If I don't have the context I am not bothering with the entire project.
@ you’re done because you’re too dull to put this all together yourself and probably used to other people doing things for you. Peace out!
@ wahhhhhhh crybaby. Here’s a new list
@ people like you are out to ruin everyone’s good time because you’re miserable. Go home
Many movies. Some could be good. We'll see what happens. Could be good
Expect the Unexpected literally!😂😂
RDJ as Doom is just......no.
If he is a Stark Variant = Horrible
If he is Victor Von Doom = Atrocious
Jackman returning after "Logan" was...something.
But RDJ?
Abominable.
The problem is that now if it doesn't affect at least peter & Deadpool doesn't Clown 🤡 on it, then there's no way in hell it's going to work
We just want to see Wesley snipes in a new blade film. Get on it 😅
yes, a 60 year old who has a reputation of being impossible to work with is just the right way to go
@@mlongpre100So you give him the reigns. This is the problem with the Ali project, just have these people pick people they do get along with who know how to work with them, their way and tell them where the story has to end to fit into the mcu
If Marvel keeps recasting characters that have died or left the series you cannot care or cheer for them because you know the directors will change it later 😢
X Men. Possibly?
It's time to put it to rest for 20 years.
Yea that’s not happening
@gbygby7by7by8nym8 not until it makes no more money.
That’s not happening lmao
The only thing that should be put to rest is The Avengers now that The X-men are coming
@ they shouldn’t put it to rest. They should just focus on the X-men over the avengers
TBF, aren't MOST teams part of The Avengers?!
"Maybe" 😂
So still nothing on moon knight season 2 😢
Just keep Rachel Zegler away from MCU films, or else I'm out.
How much is too much?
Marvel : Yes….
I've lost all faith in anything Disney produces. They've been focusing on political activism and forgot they're suppose to entertain.
You know guys I would love to see a bill and come back a villain that was sealed away by Shang chi’s parents and comes back to see the son and the daughter and says wow look at this the gang so back except two people my condolences and then the kids says you’re lucky they’re not here to kick your ass but then the balance says fools your parents never defeated me. They just sealed me away and you two are not your parents so killing you will be easy. But then the TVA come bring their parents back from the past to help them defeat, their villain, father, mother, son, and daughter, but then, after that, they defeat him, they erased their minds to protect the timeline.
Pedro Pascal… again
Marvel studios would probably go bankrupt after hiring RDJ again lol 😂
Nothing great if phase 4 and 5 are anything to go by
I am soooo uninterested. Even less now that they announced RDJ comng back as another character.
Care lmao
Phase 4 = 🤮🤮🤮
Phase 5 = nothing Burger
Phase 6 better knock it out the park.
Loki, Spider-Man NWH, GOTG3 and Deadpool & Wolverine are the only great movies/series in phase 4&5.
After how Majors was treated, i will never pay to watch another mcu project. Unless they apologize to him and fire Thanos Hawkeye actors who actually did what Majors was accused of
???
What to expect? Gayness
So you're going to be first in line?!🤔
Here’s an idea, APOLOGIZE TO JONATHAN MAJORS! Give him his role back and proceed as planned.
Everyone in this comments section seriously gotta move on from The Avengers, Guardians, & Iron Man
They had a good run but they were NEVER a key part of Marvel before The MCU
Now that Marvel got the X-Men & Fantastic Four are back at Marvel we can get The REAL MCU and The X-Men and Fantastic Four aren’t unfamiliar faces. They’re Marvel’s Flagship Teams and carried the brand for decades alongside Spider-Man. Their absence is the reason why Marvel even settled on the Avengers & Guardians to begin with.
They have them back now. They don’t have to reinvent B & C-listers or even Z-listers anymore. They have the means to keep this train going for another decade and we saw they can cook with the X-men in X-men 97 & Deadpool & Wolverine.
Let’s get The Multiverse Saga over with and bring on The Mutant Saga🔥
“Mutants are The Future” ~ Magneto
nah that's too nerdy, just give us believable characters in contained fun movies of phase 1 2
We are the future Charles not them, they no longer matter MAGNETO, X-MEN
@@DoomBlazer Say it louder 👏🗣
I have no faith in this next phase
Really not looking forward to any of the future MCU movies at all, MCU died with Tony Stark!
Who the eff cares!
U do considering ur watching
You! Thats who 😂
What to expect?
Big. Wet. Turd.
The Russo brothers are back so maybe we’ll see some good movies again.
Hopefully nothing
A mess
RDJ as Dr. DOOM is weak, uninspired casting. White washing his character. And an insult to all D Doom fans!!!! Also Dr. Doom is 1 of the top 3 smartest man in Marvel Comics. Iron Man isn't even in the top 10!!!!!
……salty much?
@@Boneyard250probably believes Latveria is a real place, yet ironically can' even find the way out of their own mom's basement 😹
@Boneyard250 Naw. Just a real.Dr Doom fan!! Cuz Iron Man us trash, always has been always will be!!!
@@miltonbailey4968 Downey won't be the *REAL* Doom , at least if they intend to keep 'THE 4' & the MCU going. There will be a *REAL* Doom in our universe. He'll have a gripe with Wakanda, want all the metals & Fury will have a file on him for sure
@ so that’s why he was so well received, and F4 got shit on.
Right. Lol
They are stil doing ironheart? Yet another incoming flop nobody ask for that
What to expect from Phase Six: me not caring anymore.
I don't care
All looks terrible gonna pass
It'll be more of the same mumbo jumbo, theres only so many cheesy marvel films you can make
disappointment nothing but disappointment
Black Widow was a very enjoyable movie, and was better than Shang Chi. Shang Chi felt like paint by numbers movie with a mystical super hero spin
Marvel is dead...
I'm expecting disappointment
The mcu is so lame
A lot more of the same from the last few phases.. 🥱