I liked Peal a lot at first. She resonated with me because I saw how hard my dad had to fight for custody despite clearly being the best option. She lost me when she started applying a double standard on *adultery*. Girl, no. It's *always* wrong when somebody cheats.
It's just a shame that people who go down the opposite hole of being sexist towards men lose respect nearly as quickly (if at all) as 'Pearl' (I assume that was just a typo) has done. I remember seeing an article in a national news paper about how it was okay for women to cheat on their spouses... Something endorsed by a national news paper! But I bet if it had been arguing along the same lines as Pearl, it would have never been printed and the journalist in question would have been in trouble with their bosses. It's frustrating that there is a double standard on the acceptability of extreme points of view. Unfortunately, when it comes to debating, humans are selfish and proud and find it much easier to meet in the middle than concede that they were wrong and need to adopt the other's position, even if that position is entirely equitable. So some people seem to have decided that to end up in that equitable position, they need to low-ball their starting position, so they can negotiate and end up meeting in the middle. I'm not a big fan of that strategy, I'd much rather argue for the thing I actually believe in, but I understand how some people believe that's nessasary.
Me too, I had to watch my mom completely tear our lives apart for years while my dad fought so hard to stay in our lives. I completely agree with some red pill talking points especially about how the courts automatically favor the mother even if shes objectively the shttier parent but they take it too far and almost encourage men to completely abandon relationships and marriage altogether instead of just oh I don't know, learning to pick better partners? You know, the logical solution? Pearl says the craziest stuff, I'm not a feminist at all but even im shocked at what comes out of her mouth, like all she does is bash and denigrate women to men who already hate them and that's her dating pool. 😂
The adultery thing was really strange to me because her rationale was that it wasn't about her anymore because of children. The same should go for the husband. He's disregarding how his adultery affects his children.
Agreed. Weirdly enough, Tate and Pearl have correctly diagnosed the problem, but their solutions for the cure are pure snake oil. They become absolutely outlandish when you let them keep talking and continue to dig the hole deeper.
The trouble with Pearl is if you actually listen to a long-form interview with her, rather than a little soundbite/tweet, she's nowhere near as smart as she'd like you to think. That Triggernometry interview is a classic example.
@@_IT_F_SohamKotkar It goes with ALL influencers. Why? Because they have to keep coming up with material. Joe Rogan is extremely popular and does a good job interviewing people etc, but he does let on people that are totally out there under the premise of (everyone should be heard). Many people really shouldn't be heard because what they are saying is crazy by every measure. So no influencer is immune to going too far for clicks. There is only so much you can do to remain popular and relevant and still maintain 100% integrity unfortunately
Reminds me of a fast food franchise. Just churning out the product to a particular consumer and when challenged by experts there’s no nutritional value to be found. It’s comparable to sex sells, controversy sells, cheap laughs sells, cheap thrills sells… none of it is enlightening.
I think Pearl and a lot of people today have a mistaken perception of what marriage was like in the past. My mom and dad got married in 1956. My mom was a stay at home mom of 8 kids. So what most people think would be a typical 50s housewife. Even then a woman who had no opinions and just cooked, cleaned and took care of the children would have been unusual. A successful family needs to have both parents actively involved and working together. They may have different areas that they concentrate on but they are a team. My mom’s focus was on the house and children and my dad’s was on working to pay for their life together. Women didn’t suddenly start thinking for themselves and having their own opinions sometime in the 70s and 80s. They have always been smart and capable. To think differently is just not true.
Absolutely!! My grandparents were from The Greatest Generation and my grandmother was married at 17. My grandparents had 11 children and my grandmother was a SAHM who cooked every single meal and handwashed every item of clothing. But make no mistake, she was no wallflower nor some meekly submissive wife without opinions!! My grandparents had a very traditional marriage, but were equal partners in marriage. My grandmother knew how to do and make everything!! I loved them very much and even now, a marriage like theirs would be envied. My grandfather also didn't believe that women should only be housewives and sent his daughters to university if they wanted to go.
Yeah clearly bc she’s everything she says a woman should not be. Has her own business Doesn’t have kids Over 27 No boyfriend Over weight Not put together well 😂 come on!! It’s a joke right ??? I think so
Why do you think she doesn't actually believe it? You make it seem like women are incapable of disagreeing with the general narrative, even when there's facts and data to support their position.
@@jodi2847 She has said dumb things such as "women shouldn't vote"--which would mean Pearl doesn't think herself capable of voting. Doubt she believes it, but it's the sort of thing that gets you clicks and views.
that is what many people who lean left say about people who hold conservative beliefs, as if it is impossible for anybody to actually hold these values and beliefs and thus they must be just grifters or making it up. i reject this. does she say purposefully inflammatory things for attention? yeah, probably. does she not actually believe most of what she says? nah, i doubt it. i think she genuinely believes the things she says, although i think he beliefs evolve quickly and she may not have a full grasp on exactly what she is saying, so as her understanding evolves, so do the exact beliefs she holds. this can give off the appearance that she might not believe the things she says, but i find it more likely she does actually believe it. at least as far as she understands what she is saying.
It blows my mind how she makes excuses for men for certain actions like adultery, but tears down women who do the same thing. I had initially liked the sound bite I'd seen of her on Vice and thought she was a conservative. Now I see she's just a pick me chasing the next viral clip so she can get famous. The way she talks about women all the time, I'd be surprised if she had ANY female friends. Definitely not someone that girls should look up to or emulate.
Men have and are expected to have physical bravery and strength + be willing to risk all to protect women. Women should therefore reciprocate by being an ethical emotional rock for her husband. Having emotional strength like the ability to be loyal and withstand temptation to protect their child and family. THAT'S why it's seen as worse when a woman is unfaithful.. Especially if a man is forced to provide for another mans child.
I think either Pearl was bullied by pretty girls in school or she bullied pretty girls in school. Her desire to antagonize women just seems very deeply ingrained to just be in defense of men. I don't think she cares about men, I think she just uses them as a truncheon to hurt women further. Which is sad.
I get the same sense. She engages in classic female antisocial behavior which is reputation destruction. I think she might be a sociopath as well. It something about the way she seems completely detached when arguing with others, like she doesn't actually care about what she's saying, just enjoying the adrenaline rush (many sociopaths don't feel emotions as intensely as non-sociopaths so tend to seek out extreme behaviors to get the same emotional responses as those of us non-sociopaths).
I always thought she wanted to BE a pretty girl but since she doesnt quite have the aesthetic the next best thing is just telling men what she thinks they wanna hear so they pay attention to her.
I get the feeling she wants attention from men and this is how she plans to get it. I don't like using the word "pick me" because it's used incorrectly nowadays, but she does seem to fit the mold pretty well.
Pearl is a perfect example of why we should have freedom of speech. And unless someone is explicitly doing a crime, we should simply let them talk. Because when you simply let radicals with no brains or morals speak, everyone sees for themselves how crazy their ideas are, or how they're maybe right on some issues but really not thought out all the way. And this is just as effective as someone who's actively trying to debunk these ideas. The reason I stopped listening to so many people is, I listened to them. And I turned them off. But if you ban them, it just makes people see them as a martyr. And then their fans & simps end up getting isolated from any real true critiques and they become like a cult. People say, we need to shut down harmful ideas & videos cause people will follow suit. However, what people need to understand is unless someone is doing a crime, then it is a person's right to think what they want. And you can't control it. Hiding is just their attempt to control. And one part of me thinks that although one part of them don't want normal people from seeing their content so they protect them from dangerous thoughts, but another part of them wants the red-pill and right-wing people be isolated so they will literally become the monsters they wish them to be. It's like having a bogyman on reserve.
Perfectly stated. Do not condone thought crimes. Isolating and banning their opinion, doesn’t change it. You should want to know what people think exactly.
I 100 percent agree -- I think what you describe also comes naturally in basic interpersonal relationships. I've had friends that I initially thought I agreed with on most things, only as we talked more did I start to realize I didn't agree with some of their viewpoints (from complex things to fun stuff like favorite character on a TV show). I could still appreciate them as people, but stick firm to my own belief system/morals, challenge there beliefs, and my own as well via interactions with them. We'd then exchange viewpoints and because we have a foundation of mutual respect, it was easier for both of us to admit we were wrong about something or rethink how we view the world. I think we should always show respect to people who have really bad takes as they expose themselves and more reasonable people with better arguments can see through the BS and point it out, respectfully of course. Villainizing the "martyr" only makes their fans lionize them. I think the issue with grain of truth arguments as well is that people will attach themselves to anyone who stands up for an injustice they feel is being ignored by the elites/mainstream. The problem is not to silence those people, but to find better advocates for that injustice. Just like hating white people and defunding the police isn't the solution to the real world issue of police brutality, neither is making broad generalizations about women and applying double standards when it comes to sex politics the answer to the real world issue of misandry that many men are dealing with. We need better solutions. As a woman with many close male friends, siblings, colleagues, and a good relationship with my father, I find that men and women are much more amiable and get along fine in real life--where the biological differences between out sexes aren't as pronounced and capitalized on as in internet discourse spaces. I also have never been in a relationship, like Pearl, but I don't see the point in turning all that self hatred and doubt outwards and onto other women. Some of us just won't be as desirable in the dating market, that doesn't mean we don't have value and other things to give to the world. A woman who is unmarried can still be loving and nurturing to the people in her life, at her job, and elsewhere. Same with men who aren't able to find a partner. Life never promised us it would be fair -- we take what we can get, and we do out best with it.
I never understood how she made it this far. She just says outlandish things to get reaction now. No one really knows if she actually does any of the things she preaches
I think for a lot of conservative pundits, knowledge, wisdom, and nuance are off the table. Just say outlandish things with a lot of confidence, and you're taken seriously.
Any comment on man-haters that say outlandish things to get reactions and not only get away with it but forming personality cults around their misandry?
I feel like Pearl has some serious issues with her mother. That woman is the living example that Pearl is just wrong about anything. Her mom is an educated and extremly sucessful CEO, is still married to her father and is mother to alot of kids. So her mother really does and has it ALL. Pearl on the other hand has achieved NONE of that so far even though she tries soooo hard to appeal to men. And her mother had no problems fulfilling these more traditional achievements while still being a career woman! She even talks about how she would be okay with her father cheating on her mother. What disrespectful and ungrateful little brat would even say something like this about their mother?! Seems like one big inferiority complex to me.
Pearl trivializes ANY wrongdoing from men, but condemns women for the same actions. Morality is objective, regardless of your gender - something she can’t seem to wrap her head around
fe***ism trivializes ANY wrongdoing from women (and glorifying and celebrating it as "empowering" and "liberating"), but condemns, demonizes and devalues men for the same actions (and just for the sin of existing as males). Pearl is giving it some balance. What the problem?
Any comment on the women's "equality" ideology that has at its core subjective morality where any wrongdoings from WOMEN are hailed as heroic, liberating and empowering but condemns MEN for the same actions as the worst criminals and sinners. Can you wrap your head around that?
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty to criticize about modern feminism, but that doesn’t mean we need to turn completely sexist. I liked her for a few seconds there, and that quickly changed.
Modern feminism is extremely sexist. Somehow you think that critisizing sexism is sexism and can lead to more sexism. So we better stop critisizing sexism or we might become sexist.
@LLlap the point is that if you go far enough away from sexist feminism, you become sexist red pill. Not all people talking in this space are bad, like Alexander Grace, or the Honey Badgers.
Whether you agree with her or not...is it ethical to silence her? Notice the word ethical, as opposed to legal. The criticism that she is simply a "drama merchant" or "sensationalist" are valid in my opinion, but I don't support silencing such voices. There are thousands of such people in the world - almost half the pundits on ESPN constantly make statements that they don't believe, they simply make controversial statements to drive "engagement metrics".
I cannot praise you enough for how you address the issues with both sides to these movements. It truly is a breath of fresh air that I can watch your videos and just feel like the person I am watching and listening to has no ulterior motive, no hate in her heart, no corruption, and is just willing to step forward and simply call out when either side is becoming radical and losing the plot, much like it has been happening with Pearl for a while now. Thank you for your content and shared views as always!
Honestly, Pearl made some good points in the beginning of her internet career. She was fair, reasonable, and I have to say that she actually conducted herself quite well on the feminist debate some time ago, the one that also had Sydney Watson on it, making some arguments that were right on the money. Now Pearl has just spiraled into a hole she can't dig herself out of, and it's bizarre to watch. She really had something in the beginning, but eventually flushed all of her credibility straight down the toilet.
I know which debate you were talking about, but even then she seemed to have really basic arguments (at best) against horrendous arguments from the left wing nuts on that panel (I still remember that devilish laugh from one of the women). Sydney was by far the best person on the panel.
Yes, but all those points were literally stolen from Jordan Peterson and others. She would literally repeat the exact points they had made. Then she started voicing her own opinions that she thought all her followers wanted to hear, she became a grifter.
Looking back, I don't think she was much different then. She spent most of panel saying outlandish things to get a reaction out of the others. She seemed smart and mature by comparison only because most of the lefties were easily triggered and refused to engage intellectually.
I really agree with you Baggage Claim. I resonate with your nuanced look, not leaning on either red pill or girl boss side. These are a caricatures but why our society devours so much attention to them.
So?! The truth from someone who's never been married is FAR better than the lies and BS from those who are or have been. She reads the Bible and actually goes by what IT says, as opposed to listening to all the lies and direct contradictions from the Jezebel worshipping cucks in the pulpits. We are at an absolute apocalyptic point in modern relationships, and all the emasculated "Christians" are fiddling while Rome burns, because they would rather delude themselves and stay safe in their comfort zone while it all blows up, than DARE to speak the truth and face the wrath of Jezebel and her horde of "christian" women in the pews. Pearl and Rachel actually have the stones to take that spirit on and speak the truth to all these "christian" harpies that make up the VAST majority of women in the church. A spirit so powerful and intimidating that it made THE most powerful prophet of the Old Testament, run for his life and pray for death, right after one of his greatest victories. Congrats, you're on the wrong side of that battle!
if you take advice about marriage from people who have experience of marriage thew will tell the same thing pearl say or worse coz 60% of them end up in divorce.
@@DannyKnightblade45 i think its correct to say she DOESNT POST about her relationships. So none of us know. But your initial point, if you were to ask married people if you should marry, the only advice you are going to get is that you should never marry.
@@berealistic2703 If you touched some grass and lived without internet for a lifetime you'd get that everything you and Pearl say never made sense to begin with and that these stats Pearl "researched" were doomed to be contradicting from the start
What gets me is she's young, not married, and doesn't live what she preaches, as far as I can tell. If she was married for 30 years and raised 3 kids and then started talkong about this she would be much more credible in her hot takes. The concern is that as much damage feminism caused, the over correcting will do the same kind of damage. She needed to prove that her message works in her own life.
Agreed. “Too far north is south”. She had come full circle and is preaching the same things feminist do. She is very young and inexperienced in life also. She talks about “how she interviewed 1,000 men…” but I wonder if she got the whole story. 🤔. Or did she just take their word for it and assume they were being completely honest. I really can’t take anything she says seriously. I see terrible women and women out there….it is a shame when people hose types find the good ones in our world.
Being married for 30 years also reduces credibility, because then it's just someone stuck in their ways, trying to get you to repeat some motions they went through but out of context. They have a huge chance of not even knowing the dating landscape, as much as a single person has a huge chance of not knowing what marriagable behavior is.
@@jjhh320 Don't take what said too literally. What I mean is, she needs to prove that her advice and views work. Will the children she raises grow up to hate her, for example. Will her marriage end in a nasty divorce? We won't know until she gets married and has kids. Also, for a woman, she talks a whole lot, which goes against what she says she believes. She needs to be in the kitchen.
and who doenst manipulate info into favor of their argument? welcome to the actual world, where people will read the same book and pick the verses that support their argument and dismiss those that dont.
Pearl Davis has never been married and from what I understand she’s never even been in a long term relationship. It’s so frustrating the way she acts like she knows everything and literally knows nothing about marriage and divorce and the reason someone leaves a marriage. I will even admit that I do agree with some points that she makes on some things. But I think she is totally ridiculously wrong on other things.
lol so her talking to men that got divorce raped doent count? I would say your own experience and emotional answers invalidate your points.. it aint men in all those tik tok and instagram videos.. being average and demaning a millionaire, it is usually women
Well she's gone against the advice of Greta Thunberg by burning fossil fuels, so not being married kinda goes along with the territory. Have you checked the single-mother rates in the black community lately?
So?! The truth from someone who's never been married is FAR better than the lies and BS from those who are or have been. She reads the Bible and actually goes by what IT says, as opposed to listening to all the lies and direct contradictions from the Jezebel worshipping cucks in the pulpits. We are at an absolute apocalyptic point in modern relationships, and all the emasculated "Christians" are fiddling while Rome burns, because they would rather delude themselves and stay safe in their comfort zone while it all blows up, than DARE to speak the truth and face the wrath of Jezebel and her horde of "christian" women in the pews. Pearl and Rachel actually have the stones to take that spirit on and speak the truth to all these "christian" harpies that make up the VAST majority of women in the church. A spirit so powerful and intimidating that it made THE most powerful prophet of the Old Testament, run for his life and pray for death, right after one of his greatest victories. Congrats, you're on the wrong side of that battle!
One important thing to note is that Pearly doesn’t have any experience in almost any of those subjects she talks about like motherhood, being someone’s spouse etc. Let’s see how she feels about only being someone’s maid once she is married and has kids.
@@brunetteXerWhy would anyone want to marry her? She's got a body count of her own too so isn't she ruined? Might aswell hit the convent or get some cats😂 she's a charlatan!
Totaly unfair comment amd evaluation. You dont need experience in marriage to see the gross a use happening in western countrys against innocent men that jist want time with their own offspring. You also dont need experience as a mom to see the ridiculous amd prejudice demands that single moms put on men dating them in western countrys such as "if you date me pay my childs bills" when the kid has notbing to do with the giy or why jes dating the girl.
Pearl, while she inserted good points into her work, was profiting off controversy and kept that controversy going. She was in it for the argument, not the resolution. That's the difference between her and Baggage Claim. BC is a real intellectual. I love this channel. I hope Pearl turns a corner and is transparent about it.
"Can you stop asking me about it?", she says with annoyance. I remember coming across some of her videos a few years ago when she titled them as "the whitest chick reacts" or something along those lines. She seemed okay...for a minute. Then, her stance against any woman who disagreed with her turned me off. She never listened to the opposite side. She's doing the same as the "feminists" she complained about but in the red pill world. No nuance, just attacks against the opponents. She's no different from the Whatever podcast or Fresh & Fit in her opinions.
@@Germania72 Well men nowadays are constantly attached by women and society turns an eye and allow women to say we are more dangerous than bears. I say That. That's what you got when you alienate and dehumanize a whole group
I think her idea on women not having the vote is just plain stupid. She's got to the point now where she puts all men on a pedestal. Forgetting that all people can do bad and good no matter their gender.
Of course, as a woman, that is how you view the world. But if you look at the numbers and apply some simple logic, it's obvious the current insanity, this clown world, the destruction of western culture, the now inevitability that caucasians will soon be a minority in their native lands, was ONLY possible because of female voters. You fucking killed us. By giving women the vote we ended ourselves. The culture and religion that will replace us, however, won't make that same mistake, I can assure you. They understand what happens when you let women run things for a while.
Why? Women got the vote for free, men had to get signed for the draft to vote, and women’s voting choices have wrecked the entire western world within less than a century. Like… sorry, it’s reality. And no, individual cases don’t make the rule.
Pearl is an example of a Broken Clock being right twice a day. She was 100% Right about two things which came up a few times in various interviews. However, the more she talked about other subjects the easier it became to tell that she was off in the head. Then, it came out that she was more or less a grifter who didn't practice what she was preaching at all.
She's a woman, so she knows how women are failing when they fail. She doesn't seem to see the flip side of how men are failing, when they fail. I think she has a pretty good understanding of the social contract that men and women used to have, when things were tougher. After decades of things being not as tough, men and women have sort of forgotten how teaming-up was beneficial to both spouses, and the kinds of behavior that led to more men and women teaming-up. I think she believes that traditional roles are better than the confusion many are experiencing, now. I think that traditional roles exist because they generally worked better than the alternatives, or they wouldn't persist, and (in Jordan Peterson voice) it's foolish to discard them without a clear idea of what to replace them with, with a full understanding of the consequences of the "new way." That doesn't mean that things were ever perfect. We're a flawed species. None of us is perfect. I think that general prosperity and the evolution of women in the workplace is changing the game, and we're still sorting things out. I think that in the end, most people will find more happiness over the span of their lifetimes in more or less traditional roles, at least long enough to raise a litter of pups. I think modern culture is more flexible after that, but the vast majority of couples who successfully raise a family tend to stay together for life, because they want to.
My challenge with traditional Women roles is that our society has changed so much that our interpretation of traditional is based on Victoruan upper middle class woman life style. Nowhere near actual tradition. People always lived in extended family structure. Traditional role of a young woman was to be close to baby when breastfeeding, but that does not mean at home. Or of at home working, not child care. Women worked hard just as men and there were those with delegated home taling care tasks, usually eldery women. My grandma hated stay at home moms and called them mentally ill do nothings. I dont take her attitude, but i understand her perspective. Traditional one.
It’s not that difficult to understand what the “new way” is. It’s a partnership where both the man and the woman are earning an income as well as sharing parenting and domestic chores. It means for both partners to be willing to work through their individual trauma in order to become mature, responsible, emotionally intelligent adults capable of consciously choosing empathy and compassion in their relationships with their spouse and their children. Most young people, especially women, are rejecting the old 1950s stereotypical image of what marriage and family ought to be. For one thing, raising family on a single income is exceedingly difficult now. For another, that 1950s stereotype wasn’t even a reality for most people back then; it was just for the privileged few.
Pearl is someone who was outside looking in, and once she gained "popularity", she became that which she wanted to destroy, in terms of being a mean girl.
She has no credibility. She can't defend her controversial statements when engaged with someone of above average intelligence. Fame over honesty and balance.
So few people on social media are talking about with family court system and how it not only destroys the child that is in the middle but also the fathers out there who go financially bankrupt and emotionally destroyed from being kept from seeing their children, I think a lot of women don't want to hear the truth about that I would rather ignore the damage it does to their children then hear the cold hard truth
I think it's safe to say that the family courts may do damage but every statistic we have shows women perform over ninety percent of childcare so what do you want to happen? You want judges to start awarding child time with men who aren't really equipped to perform that duty preparedly?
The only problem with your argument is that it's nothing but a lie. Family court primary run by men aren't siding with mothers because they want to. If anything they resonate with men more because they are men and fathers. Fathers (generally) are not and have never been victims of family court.
The only problem with your argument is that it's nothing but a lie. Family court primary run by men aren't siding with mothers because they want to. If anything they resonate with men more because they are men and fathers. Fathers (generally) are not and have never been victims of family court.
The main results I have seen from people like Pearl gaining notoriety are 1) disenfranchised young men giving up on ever finding love and starting a family when they have their whole lives ahead of them and 2) women who have consistently been outspoken egalitarians and men’s rights activists being turned on and attacked by the people they advocate for. She is capitalizing off of the worsening divide between the sexes and peddling resentment, nihilism, and perpetual victimhood.
Also, consuming mgtow content on a regular basis as a woman who is traditionally unattractive, unlucky in relationships, has low self-esteem and generally lacks social interactions can really feed to ones self-hatred (especially as they approach the proverbial wall more and more) and can turn even the most based person into a vile mizanthrop. I could watch this progress unfold in myself and thus I can somewhat relate to her in this way.
Pearl may say that i am simping for Baggage Claim, but it is refreshing to hear intelligent analysis from a woman on a regular basis. Baggage Claim has consistent content worth reflecting upon.
I’ve seen how devastating divorce and lack of child custody can do to a man. Both my uncles each married women who made up lies, atagonized them, dragged them to court for no good reason and turned their children away from. I remember my mom had to tell her brother to give up the fight for now because it’ll drive him crazy and that his daughter will eventually learn the truth and seek out a relationship with him. And that did happen. The other uncle, his ex wife turned his son and daughter away from him feeding them lies and making him out to he no more than financial assistance. He had to step back for his sanity and unfortunately never got the parent child relationship he wanted.
This definitely happens and you also have my situation. My father disappeared after my mother divorced him for rampant drug use and adultery. He never asked for custody and I only saw him 3 times in 20 years until he died from an overdose last year. There are bad people in both genders, income levels, countries, etc.
If you have two uncles in this same situation, is it not possible they have personalities which made them horrible to be married to? Why are you so certain these women both lied?
@@CS-mf5un because everyone in the family and neighborhood agrees they are awful women. They didn’t pick good women. One of them opened a joint american express account in theirs and my grandmas (her mother in law) name while she was dying of brain cancer. That same woman, youngest son my cousin eventually grew up and had 2 kids of his own, he had to hide the 2nd pregnancy from his wicked mother because she was awful to the baby’s mother. The other one eventually had a child with another man and when that man and my little cousin got into an argument, the mother threatened to call police on my cousin and lie claiming she hit her little brother. My little cousin can’t stand her mom because she told her lies about my uncle and brainwashed her until she was 18yrs old.
Brittany Venti's videos criticizing Pearl for her lack of selfceare, Pearl looks like she is in her 30s from a lack of moisturzing, sunscreen and constantly being in the sun, and her dressing for her lack of flattering dress taught me a lot .
I think with that video venti ends up exposing herself in the process since she at one point was criticized for what Pearl is doing now when she was younger. I kinda feel like she’s leaned left all of sudden since the red pill blew up like Lauren southern abd while ur right in criticizing her for her aesthetics Britany venti literally has had some work done along with the fact she’s completely ran through by different guys throughout her life
@@PhilosopherKing161 TRUE Venti is harsh and gives mean girl energy had to take her content with a grain of salt idk about the whole ran through and work done
The problem with Red Pill podcasts and Feminism is the same thing. They choose to take an entire sex to blame for all their problems, So like it is argued in the video Pearl has a point about certain men’s rights issues, but she’s so busy blaming women for everything, that she becomes a clown. Just like feminism does have some good points about violence against women for instance, but they’re easy to dismiss when they fall down the rabbit hole of claiming women have less rights because of men. However when asked to state what right women don’t have because of men they can’t think of anything. Why? Because blaming an entire group for your problems is the weakest straw man argument you can possibly make. The solution to most of these issues lies somewhere in the middle.
@tg0611 I mostly agree with you, but the problem is men and women aren't equal. Yeah, feminists and incels/extreme redpillers are two sides of the same coin, but due to biology and pregnancy, women have typically held most of the power in dating and relationships for as long as modern dating has been around in the past 100-150 years or so. And because of their roles as family providers and breadwinners, men have typically held most of the power in economics and business for as long as the concept of the middle-class has been round in the past 150 years or so. So depending on the subject, one sex is more to blame than the other, like female entitlement and hookup culture being why everyone is single nowadays, and men being providers to families being why society is built around "masculine traits" in order to succeed and why girl-bosses are so mannish, aggressive, and unlikeable as women. I agree both men and women should work together in order to better society, but I'm also kind of a misanthrope that thinks _most_ people suck in general, and that evading accountability isn't just a female trait; they're just able to get away with it more often.
@@cazyjohn2005 This is precisely the trap so many people fall into. You, and OP, are now doing *exactly* the same shit you complain they are - making it out as if 'the sides' are a problem to which only you are the solution. There is *no* innate intellectual value in saying this - in fact it takes even less reflection than being a wingnut. If I claim that vaccines cause AIDS and you claim they dont, theres no debate to be had here, but Ill bet you anything a million bigbrains will start whining about 'lack of nuance'. If I claim women should be worth 3/5s of men and you claim they should be 2/5s, the solution is nowhere near the middle. We're both imbeciles, but not even close to the imbecile that claims the 'nuanced position'
Women did initially have less rights than men. They were the ones who locked them out of finances, political power and education by using existing institutions
@@MarvinPowell1 Not everyone is single, only about a third of the population, and it's certainly not because of "female entitlement." I like how you tried to play both sides, but your comment just blames and insults women for all problems. Such a great way example that it's not women dodging accountability. 😂
The one thing that she always says is how women are better and more attractive in their 20s and teens (the latter is very problematic) and men want younger women and how they have a better shot in the dating market but yet she’s getting up there in age and is not in a relationship herself. In fact most of these red pillers are usually not in a relationship themselves despite giving relationship advice.
She's never had a relationship, is not fit, is Daddy's little girl but has the audacity to criticize women who have whole marriages and stuck with it, have weight struggles and have no support from parents. She's out of touch and has not yet, lived life and made the experiences that gives her the right, to speak on women's lives with such audacity, bitterness and confidence.
She has ZERO issues with women who stick it out in a marriage. That's her big push, for women NOT to bail on marriages. She's far more fit than you are. She's actually a semi pro athlete. But for the women who "struggle" with their weight. That's the problem, they DON'T struggle with it, they just let it go to hell. It's real simple: eat clean, eat disciplined and get some exercise. There are MILLIONS of fit wives with kids, so the idea that it can't be done is BS. YOU are the perfect example of the self-centered lazy women, that just doesn't want to put in the effort to give the man what HE wants. If your man decided one day that work was a REAL fkng drag and he HATED it, and just wanted to stay home and let YOU provide for the family, do you think YOU or ANYONE else would give him an OUNCE of sympathy? Hell, no, because that's what women want and EXPECT from a man. Well a man wants an attractive wife, that stays fit and provides peace and affection in the home. That's what HE wants and needs, but they don't DARE expect that anymore. You are EXACTLY everything she's been talkinga bout, that no men, especially pastors, have the stones to bring up. No wonder you're trigger AF by her.
She did have a relationship and played pro or semi pro sports. Youre kinda just proving her right by just saying whatever you think instead of what is true. And im not even a fan of hers. But im less of a fan of dumb old women who have the critical thinking abilities of taylor swift fans
@@naturalLin Good for you. But best not seek a 21 year old out for simply her age. You won't be looking for a mature partner. You'll be seeking an idea. The growth I've had between 21 and 26 tells me that even though we never stop learning, at that age I was a baby adult, just beginning to figure myself out. It's easy to think you'll create your wife from a young woman, but we're still individuals. Once she begins to find who she is, you may not be what she really needed and vice versa.
I mean, honestly, I just assume everything Google does now is evil, in a "tie a maiden to the tracks" kinda way. They strike me as the sort who drives off the road and onto your lawn so that they can break your mailbox.
Voting isn't a right, it's a privilege that should be earned by women OR men all the same. we are largely in this whole mess because we got that twisted. 🤷♂ to put it simply: your opinion about how we should run the government or who should be in charge of it has NO VALUE WHATSOEVER if you rely on government handouts.
My main issue with the whole voting concept, is how it was tied into full franchisement as a citizen. The anti suffragettes didnt want it because they didn't want the obligation aspect of it. Instead the right to vote was separated from franchisement.
Just like many other high ranking chairmen of the red pill fraternity, Pearl was someone I gravitated towards in the beginning. But it didn't take long before she started getting a lil extreme with it and that's where I checked out. I'm all for holding delusional women accountable. Straight up hating women, however, is where I draw the line.
We need Pearl. It's through her that we can begin to see what female-bashing is like, yet... male-bashing has been going on for decades. Pearl has uncovered a lot about the injustices affecting men. That's a good thing. Women must begin taking accountability for their actions. I am happy Pearl is around.
Yet even Pearl doesn't take accountability for her own actions. Watch her podcast appearance on H3. He exposed her better than anyone else to where she quit at the end and logged off.
Blame parents for allowing boys to worship Tate and people like Perl. And nowadays I see more people especially young women who dislike Kardashians, It doesn't mean they now have good influence but Kardashians are outdated and except few of their fans most people watch them just for laughs.
@@Ilovemusic793 If you believe such bs then GO OUTSIDE AND PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise, you deserve to be laughed at by those who don't live by internet
I’ve seen Pearl a few times. Somethings she says are legit, others (like taking away the vote from women) make no sense. I think what happened to Pearl is what happens to a lot of women - and something Pearl criticizes women for sometimes - she became infatuated with the attention she was getting from men. She obviously isn’t the most attractive woman, she looks ok but I doubt she had men falling over themselves trying to get her attention throughout her life. Then all of the sudden she is getting ALOT of attention from ALOT of men. It’s intoxicating for any human. It seems to be very intoxicating for women. The reason I never got to deep into her, I watched a video where she was really making fun of some dude, calling him a simp and whatnot. They were at a bar or club and it was an adult man who was with his mom and conversing with his mom before talking to ladies and being very polite and whatnot. I have a kid on the spectrum so I could tell right away this guy has some level of autism. Obviously that behavior isn’t neurotypical and that’s obvious to any reasonable person. Yet somehow that didn’t click in Pearls brain, or worse it did and she just used it as an opportunity to publicly humiliate someone who is different and not capable of behaving the way she thinks is appropriate. It infuriated me tbh. So that was it for me. I’m not about humiliating people for clout regardless of any disability, let alone someone who is trying to meet women but has a lot of challenges. In that matter moment Pearl, in my mind, became the very thing she claims to be against.
One important thing about her is, that there are 1.000 leftwing, feminist, etc. Pearls in media, at universities, etc. who can say equaly ridiculous things without much resistance. It is important to tell them, that they are the same thing like Pearl and Tate. Also, she and others where important to start the conversation, because it is realy not that long ago, that mens topics were completely ignored everywhere and people who brought them up, were canceled. When bad actors like Tate and Pearl won influence and power the other side and the middle could not longer be ignorant of many topics.
The only thing I ever saw her say about the Jews was wondering why you can't talk about them without getting demonetized or censored. If she said really bad things I would love to know.
@Nithinithinith you mean the sentiment that one should be able to criticize jews and blacks the in the same way that whites are criticized, yes it's increasingly common.
TH-cam "cancelling" Pearl worked. It's now hip to be Anti-Pearl and all the "I-Never-Liked-Her-Anyway" people are coming out of the woodwork. Notice how MsBaggageClaim quickly identifies herself as an "I-Never-Liked-Her-Anyway."
People realised Pearl was a grifter, that’s the problem 😄 She doesn’t believe anything she says. That’s why when challenged on her opinions, she often had no rebuttal. I mean cmon, if she was really about that “Red Pill” then…Where’s her husband? Does she vote? Shouldn’t she be acting more demure & feminine? Shouldn’t she be at home with the kids at her age? Is she a virgin? Then the racism didn’t help
I never paid too much attention to her, but I generally viewed her amicably at first. Then it all went downhill when she trashed on the Church's respect of our Blessed Mother.
Pearl doesn’t want to take a more balanced take on women because it gives her more views. She also loves being taken to task by women because again it gives her more views.
i look better at 33 than at 25...i don't have signs of aging on my face or body, i just look more refined now. also, i had acne and was borderline obese at 25 and now i'm thin with clear skin.
She is a victim of her own echo chamber. She used to be very logical and smart, but as she started to be more and more extreme, her fans applauded everything she said. So she went from logical to crazy.
I don’t know much about Pearl, only recently heard of her channel when it was being targeted. But she reminds me of those youtubers who lack balance in their views. They hone in and target a specific audience and keep the same act going. Just like the left just like the right. It’s all about money and fame. Because lets keep it real, as enlightening balance reporting is, it doesn’t pay very much.
No one targeted her channel. She got demonized because she’s a creepy weirdo that tried to pander to her audience by asking underage girls inappropriate questions. One of the parents caught wind of it and made a formal complaint which blew up in her face.
To be honest, I thought at first she had some good points, but also so many bad ones… I even tried to have a conversation with her in dms but she never replied so I guess she is not interested if camera isn’t on. Marriageable - no tattoos , not overweight? Please…
Thousands of FEMINISTS speaking about men just like Pearl speak about women and non of them are canceled or demonetized. But a single person speak the same things about women and sides with men gets shut down. Why is that ?
When I first saw Pearl, I thought she was pretty cool. That lasted for 5 seconds. Cause I continued to watch her and started to hate her. Now honestly I just feel sorry for her. I don't agree with so many of her opinions. And honestly I don't think she does. I said she's just doing it for attention and one person said "you don't know that". And I said "well I do, cause if she didn't she wouldn't be on TH-cam. No one who doesn't want attention isn't on TH-cam". Pearl doesn't see a lot of her hypocrisy and the fact that the number one type of woman she critiques so hard is the type of woman she wants to be. Pearl also seems to get into trouble and then doesn't know how to deal with it. Which is understandable but if she doesn't, she probably shouldn't be in this sphere.
When I first came across Pearl on youtube I enjoyed her content and she made a lot of sense to me. Then gradually she seemed to get more and more radicalized saying things like women shouldn't vote. It does almost seem like she hates women. I understand her logic but I don't agree with it. It started to feel like she was saying these outrageous things just for the views and then that's where she lost me as a fan.
@purplelove3666 At first she seemed to just bring awareness to men's issues like suicide rates, violence towards men, and things of that nature. Now she just seems to rag on women. Maybe she did this from the start and it just took time for me to digest her content.
Some of the standards Pearl sets are her own. That’s fine, but don’t dress them up as if they’re fact. So for example, she classified a woman with no tattoos as marriageable. My wife has tattoos as is such an amazing, loving person. We have a strong marriage. Then there some women divorcing their husbands and trying to take custody and ruin his life and career in unfair situations… oh… but she didn’t have tattoos. You see what I’m saying? Judge people by their character not appearance.
Pearl's schtick is all women should be stay at home moms, raise the kids, and bake bread all day for their husbands. So my questions is....why isn't she doing any of this?
As always, you're so good at gently explaining the importance of nuance and pushing for it. It's why I started following you after the first time I saw you on Open Bar... With people like Pearl, she does so much engagement hate farming, I don't even know what she actually believes. She just comes off as a very hateful person and it's really sad.
@@alexman378 a swindler, a manipulator, a fraud. And in the modern sense you can say she's all of those things and is just preying on an audience to make herself look better and pander to an audience. Did you not know that?
@@alexman378 by textbook definition but she's clearly a manipulator, a con artist who swindled fame and notoriety from a specific demographic i.e. the red pill disillusioned audience. She's a person who can't possibly be authentic in her views and games the system to get attention. And who knows, she must be profiting monetarily from being this way. She clearly just wants controversy. She's a grifter.
our take? She is a totally sensible woman who got blindsided by how quickly she went viral, and then started to play to the crowd, instead of staying true to herself. Can't imagine what being in that position could/would be like. #NoJudgement
This is so well done! Your take is exactly what Pearl was for about 5 seconds before she let fame and clicks get to her head. Thank you for your balanced and informative approach.
I mean, actually it's kind of fascinating, feminism is absolutely predicated on the idea that men and women are different, but then turns around and only VERBALLY denies it…
Pearl was one of people that at first I thought were refreshingly smart just to turn out to be insane and completely biased. Instead of actually pressing to do something about the issues with "modern feminism" (that really exist because it's basically sexism), she started making even worse division and basically glorified incels and misogynists. I had high hopes and got very disappointed with her.
We live in a data analytics world that people can see real time what sells. And it doesn’t even matter what they themselves personally feel in their heart. She sees what gets her more views money and just target that. Ever notice how balanced channels like this one Baggage Claim never bust 1million, it’s because they aren’t selling junkfood. They are selling a well balanced information diet and unfortunately… 🤷🏽♀️ things that don’t trigger a person isn’t entertaining for many. Me I prefer balanced reporting, it’s enlightening.
@@WiseAilbhean True. Controversial and hateful people that polarise everything get more traction because they get a lot of reactions from both sides - those who love the extreme side and those who get outraged so much that they comment on it (and since a longer while it's well-known that owners of places like TH-cam don't care if people click downvote - as long as it gets reactions). It's very sad.
She wasn't balanced, she was a counterbalance. People are acting like Pearl was talking in a vacuum. She was responding to the insanity of our anti male, female entitlement society. It's very hard to respond to extremism without being extreme yourself. Certainly not if you're trying to show the absurdity of the topic at hand.
4:30 The reason Pearl picked "women off the street" with little or no prior knowledge of these subjects was to show what an average woman thinks and is like. It wasn't to avoid counter points, it was to show that most women have never even considered these points at all because they simply don't have to.
Court cases are used as a fallacy to demonise all women just as domestic violence is used the same way to demonise all men. It would be stupid of me to say "I'll never ever let a man be in a relationship with me, because he has a high chance of hurting me", wouldn't it? It's equally stupid to say "I'll never marry any woman because they have a high chance of divorcing me and on the top of that taking the kids and all my wealth". Not saying that the court system is fair. Not saying that domestic violence doesn't exist. I'm only saying that people should first and foremost get to know the people they are dating and committing to one another responsibly based on _that_ instead of relying either misandrist or misogynist takes from dumb people with way too much internet fame. Yes I did call Pearl dumb. And I can call her ugly too if you want
Robin Williams once said "Don't get married, just find a woman you hate and buy her a house". I don't blame men for not tying the knot, and I'm a woman!!
I'm a woman but don't see the appeal of marriage for women... If you fancy dying before your time then sure. Also the idea that my men lose everything in divorce is absolutely not true, there are some that do of course but majority don't. You people need to look actual stats and not base your ideas off internet people.
There was once a redhead girl who used to be on the Whatever podcast(if you know, you know) who made it known that she was promiscuous and had an Onlyfans. Now, she found God, dropped that type of lifestyle, is promoting a more healthy lifestyle. PearlyThings is still trying to slander her for her past that she's clearly trying to grow from. It was at that point where it became clear that PearlyThings isn't trying to defend men's rights and hypocrisies, but is some pick me girl trying to insult women to get in the good graces of the red pill community.
Thank you for your discussion of selection bias. Your ending thesis that short term controversy-seeking-behavior will result in a short term public career is a genuinely interesting hypothesis.
I liked Peal a lot at first. She resonated with me because I saw how hard my dad had to fight for custody despite clearly being the best option. She lost me when she started applying a double standard on *adultery*. Girl, no. It's *always* wrong when somebody cheats.
Her dad is a cheater, which is why she says men cheating is expected and she approves it. She’s so mean about her mom.
Same here and it also happened to me with Candace Owens🥴
It's just a shame that people who go down the opposite hole of being sexist towards men lose respect nearly as quickly (if at all) as 'Pearl' (I assume that was just a typo) has done.
I remember seeing an article in a national news paper about how it was okay for women to cheat on their spouses... Something endorsed by a national news paper! But I bet if it had been arguing along the same lines as Pearl, it would have never been printed and the journalist in question would have been in trouble with their bosses. It's frustrating that there is a double standard on the acceptability of extreme points of view.
Unfortunately, when it comes to debating, humans are selfish and proud and find it much easier to meet in the middle than concede that they were wrong and need to adopt the other's position, even if that position is entirely equitable. So some people seem to have decided that to end up in that equitable position, they need to low-ball their starting position, so they can negotiate and end up meeting in the middle.
I'm not a big fan of that strategy, I'd much rather argue for the thing I actually believe in, but I understand how some people believe that's nessasary.
Me too, I had to watch my mom completely tear our lives apart for years while my dad fought so hard to stay in our lives. I completely agree with some red pill talking points especially about how the courts automatically favor the mother even if shes objectively the shttier parent but they take it too far and almost encourage men to completely abandon relationships and marriage altogether instead of just oh I don't know, learning to pick better partners? You know, the logical solution? Pearl says the craziest stuff, I'm not a feminist at all but even im shocked at what comes out of her mouth, like all she does is bash and denigrate women to men who already hate them and that's her dating pool. 😂
The adultery thing was really strange to me because her rationale was that it wasn't about her anymore because of children.
The same should go for the husband.
He's disregarding how his adultery affects his children.
Like Tate, she says a few correct things then gets lost along the way in crazy town.
Valid comparison
Wow I cannot believe you compared the 2
🤭🫠🤡
They are very similar. That was my first thought to. @@missbelle_elle
Agreed. Weirdly enough, Tate and Pearl have correctly diagnosed the problem, but their solutions for the cure are pure snake oil. They become absolutely outlandish when you let them keep talking and continue to dig the hole deeper.
Agree
The trouble with Pearl is if you actually listen to a long-form interview with her, rather than a little soundbite/tweet, she's nowhere near as smart as she'd like you to think. That Triggernometry interview is a classic example.
I agree. She has some excellent factual information, but she does go too far
@@travisjazzbo3490 honestly this issue goes with almost all red pill influencers.
@@_IT_F_SohamKotkar It goes with ALL influencers. Why? Because they have to keep coming up with material. Joe Rogan is extremely popular and does a good job interviewing people etc, but he does let on people that are totally out there under the premise of (everyone should be heard). Many people really shouldn't be heard because what they are saying is crazy by every measure.
So no influencer is immune to going too far for clicks. There is only so much you can do to remain popular and relevant and still maintain 100% integrity unfortunately
Same in pints with Aquinas. Against someone who actually knows how to debate (a Catholic apologist), her performance was embarrassing.
Reminds me of a fast food franchise. Just churning out the product to a particular consumer and when challenged by experts there’s no nutritional value to be found.
It’s comparable to sex sells, controversy sells, cheap laughs sells, cheap thrills sells… none of it is enlightening.
There's a great parody account of her on twitter.
One tweet said women don't actually feel pain in child birth, they just yell for attention lol
That actually IS something she would say.
Hahahah, that is genius 😂
😂😂
Child birth is for narsasistic women.
women???? u mean birthing person
I think Pearl and a lot of people today have a mistaken perception of what marriage was like in the past. My mom and dad got married in 1956. My mom was a stay at home mom of 8 kids. So what most people think would be a typical 50s housewife. Even then a woman who had no opinions and just cooked, cleaned and took care of the children would have been unusual. A successful family needs to have both parents actively involved and working together. They may have different areas that they concentrate on but they are a team. My mom’s focus was on the house and children and my dad’s was on working to pay for their life together. Women didn’t suddenly start thinking for themselves and having their own opinions sometime in the 70s and 80s. They have always been smart and capable. To think differently is just not true.
So true. You literally need to watch one episode of I Love Lucy to know that.
THANK YOU.
Absolutely. It's so strange that people don't recognize that. People in the past had brains too, how is that not obvious?
Yes but then they can't constantly victimise themselves and claim oppression... so ssshhhhhh :D
Absolutely!! My grandparents were from The Greatest Generation and my grandmother was married at 17. My grandparents had 11 children and my grandmother was a SAHM who cooked every single meal and handwashed every item of clothing. But make no mistake, she was no wallflower nor some meekly submissive wife without opinions!! My grandparents had a very traditional marriage, but were equal partners in marriage. My grandmother knew how to do and make everything!! I loved them very much and even now, a marriage like theirs would be envied. My grandfather also didn't believe that women should only be housewives and sent his daughters to university if they wanted to go.
Pearl is a kind of person who sounds smart only in YT Shorts.
neh, she is
@@tacituskilgore3246 Nah. She isn't. Saying what weak men want to hear isn't smart.
not even
@@Aweburn82 what is a weak man?
@@Aweburn82 men are stronger than women 😂
She tried to so hard to be 'one of the guys' and still got rejected
Yeah she is totally a "pick me." Right?
gtfo
A troll maybe. Pick me? Nope.
I dont think shes a pick me or one of the guys.
Because she isn't feminine.
@@PolishBehemoth she is the definition of pick me lol
@@ashrayadayal is she really is a pick-me? or she just trolling?
I always thought it was an act with Pearl. She just wanted to be famous, I don't think she actually believed what she was saying.
Yeah clearly bc she’s everything she says a woman should not be.
Has her own business
Doesn’t have kids
Over 27
No boyfriend
Over weight
Not put together well
😂 come on!! It’s a joke right ??? I think so
Why do you think she doesn't actually believe it? You make it seem like women are incapable of disagreeing with the general narrative, even when there's facts and data to support their position.
Exactly, says outrageous things for clicks.
@@jodi2847 She has said dumb things such as "women shouldn't vote"--which would mean Pearl doesn't think herself capable of voting. Doubt she believes it, but it's the sort of thing that gets you clicks and views.
that is what many people who lean left say about people who hold conservative beliefs, as if it is impossible for anybody to actually hold these values and beliefs and thus they must be just grifters or making it up. i reject this. does she say purposefully inflammatory things for attention? yeah, probably. does she not actually believe most of what she says? nah, i doubt it. i think she genuinely believes the things she says, although i think he beliefs evolve quickly and she may not have a full grasp on exactly what she is saying, so as her understanding evolves, so do the exact beliefs she holds. this can give off the appearance that she might not believe the things she says, but i find it more likely she does actually believe it. at least as far as she understands what she is saying.
It blows my mind how she makes excuses for men for certain actions like adultery, but tears down women who do the same thing. I had initially liked the sound bite I'd seen of her on Vice and thought she was a conservative. Now I see she's just a pick me chasing the next viral clip so she can get famous. The way she talks about women all the time, I'd be surprised if she had ANY female friends. Definitely not someone that girls should look up to or emulate.
Men have and are expected to have physical bravery and strength + be willing to risk all to protect women.
Women should therefore reciprocate by being an ethical emotional rock for her husband. Having emotional strength like the ability to be loyal and withstand temptation to protect their child and family. THAT'S why it's seen as worse when a woman is unfaithful.. Especially if a man is forced to provide for another mans child.
I think either Pearl was bullied by pretty girls in school or she bullied pretty girls in school.
Her desire to antagonize women just seems very deeply ingrained to just be in defense of men.
I don't think she cares about men, I think she just uses them as a truncheon to hurt women further.
Which is sad.
I get the same sense. She engages in classic female antisocial behavior which is reputation destruction. I think she might be a sociopath as well. It something about the way she seems completely detached when arguing with others, like she doesn't actually care about what she's saying, just enjoying the adrenaline rush (many sociopaths don't feel emotions as intensely as non-sociopaths so tend to seek out extreme behaviors to get the same emotional responses as those of us non-sociopaths).
I always thought she wanted to BE a pretty girl but since she doesnt quite have the aesthetic the next best thing is just telling men what she thinks they wanna hear so they pay attention to her.
And the men don’t care about her either. Why aren’t those red pill guys not lining up to date her since she’s saying the things they like in a woman?
I dont think she's hurting women.... she's not hurting ME.
I get the feeling she wants attention from men and this is how she plans to get it. I don't like using the word "pick me" because it's used incorrectly nowadays, but she does seem to fit the mold pretty well.
Pearl is a perfect example of why we should have freedom of speech. And unless someone is explicitly doing a crime, we should simply let them talk. Because when you simply let radicals with no brains or morals speak, everyone sees for themselves how crazy their ideas are, or how they're maybe right on some issues but really not thought out all the way. And this is just as effective as someone who's actively trying to debunk these ideas. The reason I stopped listening to so many people is, I listened to them. And I turned them off. But if you ban them, it just makes people see them as a martyr. And then their fans & simps end up getting isolated from any real true critiques and they become like a cult. People say, we need to shut down harmful ideas & videos cause people will follow suit. However, what people need to understand is unless someone is doing a crime, then it is a person's right to think what they want. And you can't control it. Hiding is just their attempt to control. And one part of me thinks that although one part of them don't want normal people from seeing their content so they protect them from dangerous thoughts, but another part of them wants the red-pill and right-wing people be isolated so they will literally become the monsters they wish them to be. It's like having a bogyman on reserve.
Excellent opinion, I agree 100%
Exactly!! I've always said this. Let them talk. They eventually expose their intentions or level of intelligence.
Perfectly stated. Do not condone thought crimes. Isolating and banning their opinion, doesn’t change it. You should want to know what people think exactly.
I 100 percent agree -- I think what you describe also comes naturally in basic interpersonal relationships. I've had friends that I initially thought I agreed with on most things, only as we talked more did I start to realize I didn't agree with some of their viewpoints (from complex things to fun stuff like favorite character on a TV show). I could still appreciate them as people, but stick firm to my own belief system/morals, challenge there beliefs, and my own as well via interactions with them. We'd then exchange viewpoints and because we have a foundation of mutual respect, it was easier for both of us to admit we were wrong about something or rethink how we view the world. I think we should always show respect to people who have really bad takes as they expose themselves and more reasonable people with better arguments can see through the BS and point it out, respectfully of course. Villainizing the "martyr" only makes their fans lionize them.
I think the issue with grain of truth arguments as well is that people will attach themselves to anyone who stands up for an injustice they feel is being ignored by the elites/mainstream. The problem is not to silence those people, but to find better advocates for that injustice. Just like hating white people and defunding the police isn't the solution to the real world issue of police brutality, neither is making broad generalizations about women and applying double standards when it comes to sex politics the answer to the real world issue of misandry that many men are dealing with. We need better solutions. As a woman with many close male friends, siblings, colleagues, and a good relationship with my father, I find that men and women are much more amiable and get along fine in real life--where the biological differences between out sexes aren't as pronounced and capitalized on as in internet discourse spaces. I also have never been in a relationship, like Pearl, but I don't see the point in turning all that self hatred and doubt outwards and onto other women. Some of us just won't be as desirable in the dating market, that doesn't mean we don't have value and other things to give to the world. A woman who is unmarried can still be loving and nurturing to the people in her life, at her job, and elsewhere. Same with men who aren't able to find a partner. Life never promised us it would be fair -- we take what we can get, and we do out best with it.
@@sailorskye787 yup
I never understood how she made it this far. She just says outlandish things to get reaction now. No one really knows if she actually does any of the things she preaches
I think for a lot of conservative pundits, knowledge, wisdom, and nuance are off the table. Just say outlandish things with a lot of confidence, and you're taken seriously.
@@Jennifer-my5dm That is the case for most people in most schools of thought, and is in no way limited to wingnuts
any woman that advocates for men will get tons of media
Any comment on man-haters that say outlandish things to get reactions and not only get away with it but forming personality cults around their misandry?
@@etsequentia6765 why don't you make the comment yourself? always so lazy.
Pearl looked into the abyss and blinked when it looked back.
Owlman?
Excellent observation.
@edgarcarrillovazquez8576 well, technically Batman said that but he was describing Owl Man
But that excuses modern society abusing males that aren't attractive, intelligent and wealthy?
I feel like Pearl has some serious issues with her mother.
That woman is the living example that Pearl is just wrong about anything. Her mom is an educated and extremly sucessful CEO, is still married to her father and is mother to alot of kids. So her mother really does and has it ALL. Pearl on the other hand has achieved NONE of that so far even though she tries soooo hard to appeal to men. And her mother had no problems fulfilling these more traditional achievements while still being a career woman!
She even talks about how she would be okay with her father cheating on her mother. What disrespectful and ungrateful little brat would even say something like this about their mother?! Seems like one big inferiority complex to me.
Pearl trivializes ANY wrongdoing from men, but condemns women for the same actions. Morality is objective, regardless of your gender - something she can’t seem to wrap her head around
fe***ism trivializes ANY wrongdoing from women (and glorifying and celebrating it as "empowering" and "liberating"), but condemns, demonizes and devalues men for the same actions (and just for the sin of existing as males). Pearl is giving it some balance. What the problem?
Sounds right
Any comment on the women's "equality" ideology that has at its core subjective morality where any wrongdoings from WOMEN are hailed as heroic, liberating and empowering but condemns MEN for the same actions as the worst criminals and sinners. Can you wrap your head around that?
oh look a male feminist
“Morality is objective”
Who determines that? You?
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty to criticize about modern feminism, but that doesn’t mean we need to turn completely sexist. I liked her for a few seconds there, and that quickly changed.
Modern feminism is extremely sexist. Somehow you think that critisizing sexism is sexism and can lead to more sexism. So we better stop critisizing sexism or we might become sexist.
@LLlap the point is that if you go far enough away from sexist feminism, you become sexist red pill. Not all people talking in this space are bad, like Alexander Grace, or the Honey Badgers.
Whether you agree with her or not...is it ethical to silence her?
Notice the word ethical, as opposed to legal.
The criticism that she is simply a "drama merchant" or "sensationalist" are valid in my opinion, but I don't support silencing such voices.
There are thousands of such people in the world - almost half the pundits on ESPN constantly make statements that they don't believe, they simply make controversial statements to drive "engagement metrics".
@@MrVvulf If she's not inciting violence, then it is not ethical to silence her. It shouldn't be legal either.
Same.
I cannot praise you enough for how you address the issues with both sides to these movements. It truly is a breath of fresh air that I can watch your videos and just feel like the person I am watching and listening to has no ulterior motive, no hate in her heart, no corruption, and is just willing to step forward and simply call out when either side is becoming radical and losing the plot, much like it has been happening with Pearl for a while now.
Thank you for your content and shared views as always!
You're joking right? Baggage is very biased in this video, with no substance to the arguments being made
Honestly, Pearl made some good points in the beginning of her internet career. She was fair, reasonable, and I have to say that she actually conducted herself quite well on the feminist debate some time ago, the one that also had Sydney Watson on it, making some arguments that were right on the money.
Now Pearl has just spiraled into a hole she can't dig herself out of, and it's bizarre to watch. She really had something in the beginning, but eventually flushed all of her credibility straight down the toilet.
I know which debate you were talking about, but even then she seemed to have really basic arguments (at best) against horrendous arguments from the left wing nuts on that panel (I still remember that devilish laugh from one of the women). Sydney was by far the best person on the panel.
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Agreed. I used to respect Pearl. Not anymore 😢
Yes, but all those points were literally stolen from Jordan Peterson and others.
She would literally repeat the exact points they had made.
Then she started voicing her own opinions that she thought all her followers wanted to hear, she became a grifter.
Looking back, I don't think she was much different then. She spent most of panel saying outlandish things to get a reaction out of the others. She seemed smart and mature by comparison only because most of the lefties were easily triggered and refused to engage intellectually.
I really agree with you Baggage Claim. I resonate with your nuanced look, not leaning on either red pill or girl boss side. These are a caricatures but why our society devours so much attention to them.
Pearl has ZERO experience in speaking about marriage.
So?! The truth from someone who's never been married is FAR better than the lies and BS from those who are or have been.
She reads the Bible and actually goes by what IT says, as opposed to listening to all the lies and direct contradictions from the Jezebel worshipping cucks in the pulpits.
We are at an absolute apocalyptic point in modern relationships, and all the emasculated "Christians" are fiddling while Rome burns, because they would rather delude themselves and stay safe in their comfort zone while it all blows up, than DARE to speak the truth and face the wrath of Jezebel and her horde of "christian" women in the pews.
Pearl and Rachel actually have the stones to take that spirit on and speak the truth to all these "christian" harpies that make up the VAST majority of women in the church. A spirit so powerful and intimidating that it made THE most powerful prophet of the Old Testament, run for his life and pray for death, right after one of his greatest victories.
Congrats, you're on the wrong side of that battle!
if you take advice about marriage from people who have experience of marriage thew will tell the same thing pearl say or worse coz 60% of them end up in divorce.
@@berealistic2703 Pearl has never even been married in the first place. She knows virtually nothing about serious relationships.
@@DannyKnightblade45 i think its correct to say she DOESNT POST about her relationships. So none of us know. But your initial point, if you were to ask married people if you should marry, the only advice you are going to get is that you should never marry.
@@berealistic2703 If you touched some grass and lived without internet for a lifetime you'd get that everything you and Pearl say never made sense to begin with and that these stats Pearl "researched" were doomed to be contradicting from the start
What gets me is she's young, not married, and doesn't live what she preaches, as far as I can tell. If she was married for 30 years and raised 3 kids and then started talkong about this she would be much more credible in her hot takes. The concern is that as much damage feminism caused, the over correcting will do the same kind of damage. She needed to prove that her message works in her own life.
Stuff off, your parents told you your whole life to have a family 😂 we don’t listen to anyone for this stuff. We’re selfish af ❤
Agreed.
“Too far north is south”. She had come full circle and is preaching the same things feminist do.
She is very young and inexperienced in life also. She talks about “how she interviewed 1,000 men…” but I wonder if she got the whole story. 🤔.
Or did she just take their word for it and assume they were being completely honest.
I really can’t take anything she says seriously.
I see terrible women and women out there….it is a shame when people hose types find the good ones in our world.
@@Macheakolook I found pearls alt account
Being married for 30 years also reduces credibility, because then it's just someone stuck in their ways, trying to get you to repeat some motions they went through but out of context. They have a huge chance of not even knowing the dating landscape, as much as a single person has a huge chance of not knowing what marriagable behavior is.
@@jjhh320 Don't take what said too literally. What I mean is, she needs to prove that her advice and views work. Will the children she raises grow up to hate her, for example. Will her marriage end in a nasty divorce? We won't know until she gets married and has kids. Also, for a woman, she talks a whole lot, which goes against what she says she believes. She needs to be in the kitchen.
Her statistic and fact sources have been called into question multiple times. She really likes manipulating info for her narrative.
Exactly. She may spout a little kernel here and there and then everything else is just flat out ridiculous.
and who doenst manipulate info into favor of their argument? welcome to the actual world, where people will read the same book and pick the verses that support their argument and dismiss those that dont.
Can you prove your argument?
Pearl Davis has never been married and from what I understand she’s never even been in a long term relationship. It’s so frustrating the way she acts like she knows everything and literally knows nothing about marriage and divorce and the reason someone leaves a marriage. I will even admit that I do agree with some points that she makes on some things. But I think she is totally ridiculously wrong on other things.
She's bitter her BF left her for a woman in her 30's.
Yes! Once I found out that she’d never even been in a long term relationship, I immediately thought “why am I listening to her?”
lol so her talking to men that got divorce raped doent count? I would say your own experience and emotional answers invalidate your points.. it aint men in all those tik tok and instagram videos.. being average and demaning a millionaire, it is usually women
Well she's gone against the advice of Greta Thunberg by burning fossil fuels, so not being married kinda goes along with the territory. Have you checked the single-mother rates in the black community lately?
So?! The truth from someone who's never been married is FAR better than the lies and BS from those who are or have been.
She reads the Bible and actually goes by what IT says, as opposed to listening to all the lies and direct contradictions from the Jezebel worshipping cucks in the pulpits.
We are at an absolute apocalyptic point in modern relationships, and all the emasculated "Christians" are fiddling while Rome burns, because they would rather delude themselves and stay safe in their comfort zone while it all blows up, than DARE to speak the truth and face the wrath of Jezebel and her horde of "christian" women in the pews.
Pearl and Rachel actually have the stones to take that spirit on and speak the truth to all these "christian" harpies that make up the VAST majority of women in the church. A spirit so powerful and intimidating that it made THE most powerful prophet of the Old Testament, run for his life and pray for death, right after one of his greatest victories.
Congrats, you're on the wrong side of that battle!
One important thing to note is that Pearly doesn’t have any experience in almost any of those subjects she talks about like motherhood, being someone’s spouse etc. Let’s see how she feels about only being someone’s maid once she is married and has kids.
^^^^bingo!! I've VERY sure she'll sing a different tune if her husband cheats, leaves and then tries to get custody of her kids.
@@brunetteXerWhy would anyone want to marry her? She's got a body count of her own too so isn't she ruined? Might aswell hit the convent or get some cats😂 she's a charlatan!
Totaly unfair comment amd evaluation. You dont need experience in marriage to see the gross a use happening in western countrys against innocent men that jist want time with their own offspring. You also dont need experience as a mom to see the ridiculous amd prejudice demands that single moms put on men dating them in western countrys such as "if you date me pay my childs bills" when the kid has notbing to do with the giy or why jes dating the girl.
Are you reducing mums and wives down to "someone's maid"?
@@n0odles86 no, I am not but Pearl is.
Pearl, while she inserted good points into her work, was profiting off controversy and kept that controversy going. She was in it for the argument, not the resolution. That's the difference between her and Baggage Claim. BC is a real intellectual. I love this channel. I hope Pearl turns a corner and is transparent about it.
What were her good points?
@@purplelove3666 nipples
I always found Pearl to be the defintion of the Pick me Girl. Its a term that gets thrown around a lot but Pearl actually is one.
Leave it to Ms Baggage Claim to take a balanced look at the unbalanced views of Ms Pearl Davis.
Definitely agreed
"Can you stop asking me about it?", she says with annoyance. I remember coming across some of her videos a few years ago when she titled them as "the whitest chick reacts" or something along those lines. She seemed okay...for a minute. Then, her stance against any woman who disagreed with her turned me off. She never listened to the opposite side. She's doing the same as the "feminists" she complained about but in the red pill world. No nuance, just attacks against the opponents. She's no different from the Whatever podcast or Fresh & Fit in her opinions.
I think the word you’re looking for is nuance. Pearl herself is a nuisance.
Yes, it was nuance, but for some reason this autocorrect took me to nuisance.
Whatever is a good channel. You Just can't expect no response to the feminist madness.
@@kant.68 Nah, I'm tired of the extremes from both sides.
@@Germania72
Well men nowadays are constantly attached by women and society turns an eye and allow women to say we are more dangerous than bears. I say That. That's what you got when you alienate and dehumanize a whole group
I think her idea on women not having the vote is just plain stupid.
She's got to the point now where she puts all men on a pedestal. Forgetting that all people can do bad and good no matter their gender.
Of course, as a woman, that is how you view the world. But if you look at the numbers and apply some simple logic, it's obvious the current insanity, this clown world, the destruction of western culture, the now inevitability that caucasians will soon be a minority in their native lands, was ONLY possible because of female voters. You fucking killed us. By giving women the vote we ended ourselves. The culture and religion that will replace us, however, won't make that same mistake, I can assure you. They understand what happens when you let women run things for a while.
Why? Women got the vote for free, men had to get signed for the draft to vote, and women’s voting choices have wrecked the entire western world within less than a century. Like… sorry, it’s reality. And no, individual cases don’t make the rule.
yup it has worked out so well hasnt it? GTFO
Pearl is an example of a Broken Clock being right twice a day.
She was 100% Right about two things which came up a few times in various interviews. However, the more she talked about other subjects the easier it became to tell that she was off in the head.
Then, it came out that she was more or less a grifter who didn't practice what she was preaching at all.
She's a woman, so she knows how women are failing when they fail. She doesn't seem to see the flip side of how men are failing, when they fail.
I think she has a pretty good understanding of the social contract that men and women used to have, when things were tougher. After decades of things being not as tough, men and women have sort of forgotten how teaming-up was beneficial to both spouses, and the kinds of behavior that led to more men and women teaming-up.
I think she believes that traditional roles are better than the confusion many are experiencing, now.
I think that traditional roles exist because they generally worked better than the alternatives, or they wouldn't persist, and (in Jordan Peterson voice) it's foolish to discard them without a clear idea of what to replace them with, with a full understanding of the consequences of the "new way."
That doesn't mean that things were ever perfect. We're a flawed species. None of us is perfect. I think that general prosperity and the evolution of women in the workplace is changing the game, and we're still sorting things out.
I think that in the end, most people will find more happiness over the span of their lifetimes in more or less traditional roles, at least long enough to raise a litter of pups. I think modern culture is more flexible after that, but the vast majority of couples who successfully raise a family tend to stay together for life, because they want to.
I really enjoyed reading this. It’s actually calming to read someone who writes with nuance.
My challenge with traditional Women roles is that our society has changed so much that our interpretation of traditional is based on Victoruan upper middle class woman life style. Nowhere near actual tradition. People always lived in extended family structure. Traditional role of a young woman was to be close to baby when breastfeeding, but that does not mean at home. Or of at home working, not child care. Women worked hard just as men and there were those with delegated home taling care tasks, usually eldery women. My grandma hated stay at home moms and called them mentally ill do nothings. I dont take her attitude, but i understand her perspective. Traditional one.
We also must remember to save our fathers from the underworld
It’s not that difficult to understand what the “new way” is. It’s a partnership where both the man and the woman are earning an income as well as sharing parenting and domestic chores. It means for both partners to be willing to work through their individual trauma in order to become mature, responsible, emotionally intelligent adults capable of consciously choosing empathy and compassion in their relationships with their spouse and their children.
Most young people, especially women, are rejecting the old 1950s stereotypical image of what marriage and family ought to be. For one thing, raising family on a single income is exceedingly difficult now. For another, that 1950s stereotype wasn’t even a reality for most people back then; it was just for the privileged few.
I guess you weren't paying attention the last 70 years, how men are failing has been every female mouth for over half century
Pearl is someone who was outside looking in, and once she gained "popularity", she became that which she wanted to destroy, in terms of being a mean girl.
I supported her then she started saying some weird stuff.
Me too
That 16 year old tweet in hindsight was gonna bit her back so hard
She's been repeating the same stuff for 3 years now.
She has no credibility. She can't defend her controversial statements when engaged with someone of above average intelligence. Fame over honesty and balance.
So few people on social media are talking about with family court system and how it not only destroys the child that is in the middle but also the fathers out there who go financially bankrupt and emotionally destroyed from being kept from seeing their children, I think a lot of women don't want to hear the truth about that I would rather ignore the damage it does to their children then hear the cold hard truth
I think it's safe to say that the family courts may do damage but every statistic we have shows women perform over ninety percent of childcare so what do you want to happen? You want judges to start awarding child time with men who aren't really equipped to perform that duty preparedly?
The only problem with your argument is that it's nothing but a lie. Family court primary run by men aren't siding with mothers because they want to. If anything they resonate with men more because they are men and fathers.
Fathers (generally) are not and have never been victims of family court.
The only problem with your argument is that it's nothing but a lie. Family court primary run by men aren't siding with mothers because they want to. If anything they resonate with men more because they are men and fathers.
Fathers (generally) are not and have never been victims of family court.
The main results I have seen from people like Pearl gaining notoriety are 1) disenfranchised young men giving up on ever finding love and starting a family when they have their whole lives ahead of them and 2) women who have consistently been outspoken egalitarians and men’s rights activists being turned on and attacked by the people they advocate for. She is capitalizing off of the worsening divide between the sexes and peddling resentment, nihilism, and perpetual victimhood.
Yup she’s a black pill. Horribly demoralizing
Also, consuming mgtow content on a regular basis as a woman who is traditionally unattractive, unlucky in relationships, has low self-esteem and generally lacks social interactions can really feed to ones self-hatred (especially as they approach the proverbial wall more and more) and can turn even the most based person into a vile mizanthrop. I could watch this progress unfold in myself and thus I can somewhat relate to her in this way.
Pearl may say that i am simping for Baggage Claim, but it is refreshing to hear intelligent analysis from a woman on a regular basis. Baggage Claim has consistent content worth reflecting upon.
She wouldn't be alone in that
"Just Lonely Things" -Aba
Aba & preach my MY PEOPLE
Well I don't condone the name calling, but Pearl said a lot of true things.
Pearl is not a genius but her intuition is right on. Almost everything she says is correct. It is our culture that has is wrong, not Pearl.
I’ve seen how devastating divorce and lack of child custody can do to a man. Both my uncles each married women who made up lies, atagonized them, dragged them to court for no good reason and turned their children away from. I remember my mom had to tell her brother to give up the fight for now because it’ll drive him crazy and that his daughter will eventually learn the truth and seek out a relationship with him. And that did happen. The other uncle, his ex wife turned his son and daughter away from him feeding them lies and making him out to he no more than financial assistance. He had to step back for his sanity and unfortunately never got the parent child relationship he wanted.
Two things can be true at once. Divorce is awful for men AND Pearl is stupid.
This definitely happens and you also have my situation. My father disappeared after my mother divorced him for rampant drug use and adultery. He never asked for custody and I only saw him 3 times in 20 years until he died from an overdose last year. There are bad people in both genders, income levels, countries, etc.
@@NadiaSeesIt
Oh my gosh, I am so sorry for your loss. You have my deepest condolences 🌹.
If you have two uncles in this same situation, is it not possible they have personalities which made them horrible to be married to? Why are you so certain these women both lied?
@@CS-mf5un because everyone in the family and neighborhood agrees they are awful women. They didn’t pick good women.
One of them opened a joint american express account in theirs and my grandmas (her mother in law) name while she was dying of brain cancer.
That same woman, youngest son my cousin eventually grew up and had 2 kids of his own, he had to hide the 2nd pregnancy from his wicked mother because she was awful to the baby’s mother.
The other one eventually had a child with another man and when that man and my little cousin got into an argument, the mother threatened to call police on my cousin and lie claiming she hit her little brother. My little cousin can’t stand her mom because she told her lies about my uncle and brainwashed her until she was 18yrs old.
Pearl is not a good debater, wtf? She cites outdates studies or she blatantly lies.
Sounds to me like shes a fantastic debater. Seen any political debates recently?
If you can keep talking and avoid sweating then you’re a “good debater”
Andrew Wilson said he thinks she is a poor debater. As a married man with a couple kids I am sure Andrew disagrees with certain things Pearl says.
Brittany Venti's videos criticizing Pearl for her lack of selfceare, Pearl looks like she is in her 30s from a lack of moisturzing, sunscreen and constantly being in the sun, and her dressing for her lack of flattering dress taught me a lot .
I think with that video venti ends up exposing herself in the process since she at one point was criticized for what Pearl is doing now when she was younger. I kinda feel like she’s leaned left all of sudden since the red pill blew up like Lauren southern abd while ur right in criticizing her for her aesthetics Britany venti literally has had some work done along with the fact she’s completely ran through by different guys throughout her life
Taught you that you're vapid?
wtf does that have to do with anything 😂😂 god you women are so caddy lmao
@@PhilosopherKing161 TRUE Venti is harsh and gives mean girl energy had to take her content with a grain of salt idk about the whole ran through and work done
@@Macheako because as a media personality she ought tot ake care of her appearence also she shits on other women
Pearl is a classic example of a modern social issue grifter. Great breakdown, as always.
Meanwhile parents are exploiting their underage daughters on instagram and TikTok making a lot of money but she gets demonetized??
exactly
The problem with Red Pill podcasts and Feminism is the same thing. They choose to take an entire sex to blame for all their problems, So like it is argued in the video Pearl has a point about certain men’s rights issues, but she’s so busy blaming women for everything, that she becomes a clown. Just like feminism does have some good points about violence against women for instance, but they’re easy to dismiss when they fall down the rabbit hole of claiming women have less rights because of men. However when asked to state what right women don’t have because of men they can’t think of anything. Why? Because blaming an entire group for your problems is the weakest straw man argument you can possibly make. The solution to most of these issues lies somewhere in the middle.
i agree with you. The answer is all way somewhere in the middle
@tg0611
I mostly agree with you, but the problem is men and women aren't equal. Yeah, feminists and incels/extreme redpillers are two sides of the same coin, but due to biology and pregnancy, women have typically held most of the power in dating and relationships for as long as modern dating has been around in the past 100-150 years or so. And because of their roles as family providers and breadwinners, men have typically held most of the power in economics and business for as long as the concept of the middle-class has been round in the past 150 years or so. So depending on the subject, one sex is more to blame than the other, like female entitlement and hookup culture being why everyone is single nowadays, and men being providers to families being why society is built around "masculine traits" in order to succeed and why girl-bosses are so mannish, aggressive, and unlikeable as women.
I agree both men and women should work together in order to better society, but I'm also kind of a misanthrope that thinks _most_ people suck in general, and that evading accountability isn't just a female trait; they're just able to get away with it more often.
@@cazyjohn2005 This is precisely the trap so many people fall into. You, and OP, are now doing *exactly* the same shit you complain they are - making it out as if 'the sides' are a problem to which only you are the solution. There is *no* innate intellectual value in saying this - in fact it takes even less reflection than being a wingnut.
If I claim that vaccines cause AIDS and you claim they dont, theres no debate to be had here, but Ill bet you anything a million bigbrains will start whining about 'lack of nuance'. If I claim women should be worth 3/5s of men and you claim they should be 2/5s, the solution is nowhere near the middle. We're both imbeciles, but not even close to the imbecile that claims the 'nuanced position'
Women did initially have less rights than men. They were the ones who locked them out of finances, political power and education by using existing institutions
@@MarvinPowell1 Not everyone is single, only about a third of the population, and it's certainly not because of "female entitlement."
I like how you tried to play both sides, but your comment just blames and insults women for all problems.
Such a great way example that it's not women dodging accountability. 😂
The one thing that she always says is how women are better and more attractive in their 20s and teens (the latter is very problematic) and men want younger women and how they have a better shot in the dating market but yet she’s getting up there in age and is not in a relationship herself. In fact most of these red pillers are usually not in a relationship themselves despite giving relationship advice.
Pearl is a chameleon I think. She repeats the lore but doesn't understand it.
I agree, she is and was wrong about a lot of things and just switched to another talking point 🤦🏽♀️
pretty much. shes right, but doesnt know why.
She's never had a relationship, is not fit, is Daddy's little girl but has the audacity to criticize women who have whole marriages and stuck with it, have weight struggles and have no support from parents. She's out of touch and has not yet, lived life and made the experiences that gives her the right, to speak on women's lives with such audacity, bitterness and confidence.
She has ZERO issues with women who stick it out in a marriage. That's her big push, for women NOT to bail on marriages.
She's far more fit than you are. She's actually a semi pro athlete.
But for the women who "struggle" with their weight. That's the problem, they DON'T struggle with it, they just let it go to hell. It's real simple: eat clean, eat disciplined and get some exercise. There are MILLIONS of fit wives with kids, so the idea that it can't be done is BS.
YOU are the perfect example of the self-centered lazy women, that just doesn't want to put in the effort to give the man what HE wants. If your man decided one day that work was a REAL fkng drag and he HATED it, and just wanted to stay home and let YOU provide for the family, do you think YOU or ANYONE else would give him an OUNCE of sympathy? Hell, no, because that's what women want and EXPECT from a man. Well a man wants an attractive wife, that stays fit and provides peace and affection in the home. That's what HE wants and needs, but they don't DARE expect that anymore.
You are EXACTLY everything she's been talkinga bout, that no men, especially pastors, have the stones to bring up.
No wonder you're trigger AF by her.
@@cryptojihadi265it’s all about the money, Pearl is not gonna date you, nor even care you even exist (unless you have a bbc).
How can you know her personal life like this?
She did have a relationship and played pro or semi pro sports. Youre kinda just proving her right by just saying whatever you think instead of what is true. And im not even a fan of hers. But im less of a fan of dumb old women who have the critical thinking abilities of taylor swift fans
@@seven1873 it is out on the internet. She said it herself
Pearl is one of those people who believes that if you take something true to the extreme, it becomes more true.
Yeah, as a 40+ man I'd much better date a mature 30+ woman than a forever teenage one in the 20s
How bout you just date SOME body bro 😂❤
@@Macheako grown ups are talking. And I am not your BRO.
As 34 years old man, I have no issue having. 21 year old women as wife
@@naturalLin Good for you. But best not seek a 21 year old out for simply her age. You won't be looking for a mature partner. You'll be seeking an idea. The growth I've had between 21 and 26 tells me that even though we never stop learning, at that age I was a baby adult, just beginning to figure myself out. It's easy to think you'll create your wife from a young woman, but we're still individuals. Once she begins to find who she is, you may not be what she really needed and vice versa.
@@R0krSam not with that attitude 🤣
I mean, honestly, I just assume everything Google does now is evil, in a "tie a maiden to the tracks" kinda way. They strike me as the sort who drives off the road and onto your lawn so that they can break your mailbox.
Pearl spiraled down into insanity very quickly. When she began to say women shouldn't vote I unsubscribed.
I would like everyone who votes to know a little bit more about their country. Most Americans can’t even pass the citizenship test, yet they vote.
The TRIGGERnometry guys absolutely demolished her because they are smart and she is a grifter.
They came off as bullies. And she came off as an airhead. They would not have been able to bully a Candace Owens type like that.
Voting isn't a right, it's a privilege that should be earned by women OR men all the same. we are largely in this whole mess because we got that twisted. 🤷♂ to put it simply: your opinion about how we should run the government or who should be in charge of it has NO VALUE WHATSOEVER if you rely on government handouts.
My main issue with the whole voting concept, is how it was tied into full franchisement as a citizen. The anti suffragettes didnt want it because they didn't want the obligation aspect of it. Instead the right to vote was separated from franchisement.
@@advancedmonkey7702 to add to that …only the top 5% should vote
So people with disability should have no right for representation? Thats why I hate the right just as much as the left
Just like many other high ranking chairmen of the red pill fraternity, Pearl was someone I gravitated towards in the beginning. But it didn't take long before she started getting a lil extreme with it and that's where I checked out. I'm all for holding delusional women accountable. Straight up hating women, however, is where I draw the line.
Red pill is extreme
We need Pearl. It's through her that we can begin to see what female-bashing is like, yet... male-bashing has been going on for decades. Pearl has uncovered a lot about the injustices affecting men. That's a good thing. Women must begin taking accountability for their actions. I am happy Pearl is around.
Yet even Pearl doesn't take accountability for her own actions. Watch her podcast appearance on H3. He exposed her better than anyone else to where she quit at the end and logged off.
Blame the parents for letting these women idolize the Kardashians when they were girls.
You can't allow children idolize or not idolize someone.
Blame parents for allowing boys to worship Tate and people like Perl. And nowadays I see more people especially young women who dislike Kardashians, It doesn't mean they now have good influence but Kardashians are outdated and except few of their fans most people watch them just for laughs.
@@canesugar911 omg did I strike a nerve? are you the treasurer of the Kim Kardashian fan club?
@@Ilovemusic793 If you believe such bs then GO OUTSIDE AND PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise, you deserve to be laughed at by those who don't live by internet
I’ve seen Pearl a few times. Somethings she says are legit, others (like taking away the vote from women) make no sense. I think what happened to Pearl is what happens to a lot of women - and something Pearl criticizes women for sometimes - she became infatuated with the attention she was getting from men. She obviously isn’t the most attractive woman, she looks ok but I doubt she had men falling over themselves trying to get her attention throughout her life. Then all of the sudden she is getting ALOT of attention from ALOT of men. It’s intoxicating for any human. It seems to be very intoxicating for women.
The reason I never got to deep into her, I watched a video where she was really making fun of some dude, calling him a simp and whatnot. They were at a bar or club and it was an adult man who was with his mom and conversing with his mom before talking to ladies and being very polite and whatnot. I have a kid on the spectrum so I could tell right away this guy has some level of autism. Obviously that behavior isn’t neurotypical and that’s obvious to any reasonable person. Yet somehow that didn’t click in Pearls brain, or worse it did and she just used it as an opportunity to publicly humiliate someone who is different and not capable of behaving the way she thinks is appropriate. It infuriated me tbh. So that was it for me. I’m not about humiliating people for clout regardless of any disability, let alone someone who is trying to meet women but has a lot of challenges. In that matter moment Pearl, in my mind, became the very thing she claims to be against.
As someone who had an abusive boyfriend it is not that easy to get a restraining order.
One important thing about her is, that there are 1.000 leftwing, feminist, etc. Pearls in media, at universities, etc. who can say equaly ridiculous things without much resistance. It is important to tell them, that they are the same thing like Pearl and Tate. Also, she and others where important to start the conversation, because it is realy not that long ago, that mens topics were completely ignored everywhere and people who brought them up, were canceled. When bad actors like Tate and Pearl won influence and power the other side and the middle could not longer be ignorant of many topics.
Great point!
Didn't she also say some horrible things about Jews?
The only thing I ever saw her say about the Jews was wondering why you can't talk about them without getting demonetized or censored. If she said really bad things I would love to know.
An increasing number of people are starting to ponder this issue publicly.
Antisemitism is now common.
@@Nithinithinith not true! Isra... Not equal to Jews
@Nithinithinith you mean the sentiment that one should be able to criticize jews and blacks the in the same way that whites are criticized, yes it's increasingly common.
TH-cam "cancelling" Pearl worked. It's now hip to be Anti-Pearl and all the "I-Never-Liked-Her-Anyway" people are coming out of the woodwork. Notice how MsBaggageClaim quickly identifies herself as an "I-Never-Liked-Her-Anyway."
People realised Pearl was a grifter, that’s the problem 😄 She doesn’t believe anything she says. That’s why when challenged on her opinions, she often had no rebuttal. I mean cmon, if she was really about that “Red Pill” then…Where’s her husband? Does she vote? Shouldn’t she be acting more demure & feminine? Shouldn’t she be at home with the kids at her age? Is she a virgin?
Then the racism didn’t help
The problem with Pearl is Pearl
When she was the voice of reason she was ok, when she went full F&F then she started losing normal viewers
I never paid too much attention to her, but I generally viewed her amicably at first. Then it all went downhill when she trashed on the Church's respect of our Blessed Mother.
Pearl doesn’t want to take a more balanced take on women because it gives her more views. She also loves being taken to task by women because again it gives her more views.
i look better at 33 than at 25...i don't have signs of aging on my face or body, i just look more refined now. also, i had acne and was borderline obese at 25 and now i'm thin with clear skin.
She is a victim of her own echo chamber. She used to be very logical and smart, but as she started to be more and more extreme, her fans applauded everything she said. So she went from logical to crazy.
I don’t know much about Pearl, only recently heard of her channel when it was being targeted. But she reminds me of those youtubers who lack balance in their views. They hone in and target a specific audience and keep the same act going. Just like the left just like the right.
It’s all about money and fame. Because lets keep it real, as enlightening balance reporting is, it doesn’t pay very much.
No one targeted her channel. She got demonized because she’s a creepy weirdo that tried to pander to her audience by asking underage girls inappropriate questions. One of the parents caught wind of it and made a formal complaint which blew up in her face.
To be honest, I thought at first she had some good points, but also so many bad ones…
I even tried to have a conversation with her in dms but she never replied so I guess she is not interested if camera isn’t on.
Marriageable - no tattoos , not overweight? Please…
Thousands of FEMINISTS speaking about men just like Pearl speak about women and non of them are canceled or demonetized. But a single person speak the same things about women and sides with men gets shut down. Why is that ?
She is literally addressing how dangerous gynocentric system and culture is! I have no word if you think pearl is a pick me and ‘sexist’.
When I first saw Pearl, I thought she was pretty cool. That lasted for 5 seconds. Cause I continued to watch her and started to hate her. Now honestly I just feel sorry for her. I don't agree with so many of her opinions. And honestly I don't think she does. I said she's just doing it for attention and one person said "you don't know that". And I said "well I do, cause if she didn't she wouldn't be on TH-cam. No one who doesn't want attention isn't on TH-cam". Pearl doesn't see a lot of her hypocrisy and the fact that the number one type of woman she critiques so hard is the type of woman she wants to be. Pearl also seems to get into trouble and then doesn't know how to deal with it. Which is understandable but if she doesn't, she probably shouldn't be in this sphere.
When I first came across Pearl on youtube I enjoyed her content and she made a lot of sense to me. Then gradually she seemed to get more and more radicalized saying things like women shouldn't vote. It does almost seem like she hates women. I understand her logic but I don't agree with it. It started to feel like she was saying these outrageous things just for the views and then that's where she lost me as a fan.
What made sense to you?
@purplelove3666 At first she seemed to just bring awareness to men's issues like suicide rates, violence towards men, and things of that nature. Now she just seems to rag on women. Maybe she did this from the start and it just took time for me to digest her content.
Some of the standards Pearl sets are her own. That’s fine, but don’t dress them up as if they’re fact. So for example, she classified a woman with no tattoos as marriageable. My wife has tattoos as is such an amazing, loving person. We have a strong marriage. Then there some women divorcing their husbands and trying to take custody and ruin his life and career in unfair situations… oh… but she didn’t have tattoos. You see what I’m saying? Judge people by their character not appearance.
I thought, oh wow she was cute when she was younger. Then I looked her up and she's only 27 now! Yeesh!
Pearl's schtick is all women should be stay at home moms, raise the kids, and bake bread all day for their husbands. So my questions is....why isn't she doing any of this?
As always, you're so good at gently explaining the importance of nuance and pushing for it. It's why I started following you after the first time I saw you on Open Bar... With people like Pearl, she does so much engagement hate farming, I don't even know what she actually believes. She just comes off as a very hateful person and it's really sad.
Im sorry cheating is always wrong on both sides this is why I dont like her she making excuses for men
She's a grifter and I'm glad she's getting backlash.
Do you know what the word means?
@@alexman378 a swindler, a manipulator, a fraud. And in the modern sense you can say she's all of those things and is just preying on an audience to make herself look better and pander to an audience. Did you not know that?
@@alexman378 i do. Do you? Lol
@@stephaniemcdowell1010 “Someone who swindles people out of money through fraud”. When did she do that?
@@alexman378 by textbook definition but she's clearly a manipulator, a con artist who swindled fame and notoriety from a specific demographic i.e. the red pill disillusioned audience. She's a person who can't possibly be authentic in her views and games the system to get attention. And who knows, she must be profiting monetarily from being this way. She clearly just wants controversy. She's a grifter.
Pearl is spot on with her advice. Women just don't like the truth.
our take? She is a totally sensible woman who got blindsided by how quickly she went viral, and then started to play to the crowd, instead of staying true to herself. Can't imagine what being in that position could/would be like. #NoJudgement
I appreciate how you continue to be the most understanding,balanced, and productive perspective I've found on stuff like this.
This is so well done! Your take is exactly what Pearl was for about 5 seconds before she let fame and clicks get to her head. Thank you for your balanced and informative approach.
One thing for sure that Pearl is 100% correct on is WOMEN SHOULD NOT VOTE.
I mean, actually it's kind of fascinating, feminism is absolutely predicated on the idea that men and women are different, but then turns around and only VERBALLY denies it…
If you think bullying has a positive social function, you don't know what bullying is.
Found the guy with no lunch money.
@@txdmsk Found the problem.
Pearl was one of people that at first I thought were refreshingly smart just to turn out to be insane and completely biased. Instead of actually pressing to do something about the issues with "modern feminism" (that really exist because it's basically sexism), she started making even worse division and basically glorified incels and misogynists.
I had high hopes and got very disappointed with her.
We live in a data analytics world that people can see real time what sells. And it doesn’t even matter what they themselves personally feel in their heart.
She sees what gets her more views money and just target that.
Ever notice how balanced channels like this one Baggage Claim never bust 1million, it’s because they aren’t selling junkfood. They are selling a well balanced information diet and unfortunately… 🤷🏽♀️ things that don’t trigger a person isn’t entertaining for many. Me I prefer balanced reporting, it’s enlightening.
@@WiseAilbhean True. Controversial and hateful people that polarise everything get more traction because they get a lot of reactions from both sides - those who love the extreme side and those who get outraged so much that they comment on it (and since a longer while it's well-known that owners of places like TH-cam don't care if people click downvote - as long as it gets reactions).
It's very sad.
She wasn't balanced, she was a counterbalance. People are acting like Pearl was talking in a vacuum. She was responding to the insanity of our anti male, female entitlement society. It's very hard to respond to extremism without being extreme yourself. Certainly not if you're trying to show the absurdity of the topic at hand.
She is the biggest pick me ever. The fact she harps on no woman is worth marrying after 30 and she is over 30 an single is hilarious and well deserved
She’s 27, and how do you know she’s not married?
I agree-but she may be under 30. I think her age is all she believes she has going for her hence she keeps bringing up the subject.
@@peachesmcgee4795 Again, how do you know she’s single? Plenty of well known people keep their relationships private so they don’t get attacked.
Almost two million subscribers. She is no where near any kind of ‘end’.
I know people who have a TH-cam career with 20k subscribers.
It's a clickbait title and video and deserves a thumbs down.
I've heard just the first name "Pearl" mentioned by other people, but never knew who she was. Well, now I know something.
This is a surprisingly balanced and fair critique, especially for TH-cam. Well done
4:30 The reason Pearl picked "women off the street" with little or no prior knowledge of these subjects was to show what an average woman thinks and is like. It wasn't to avoid counter points, it was to show that most women have never even considered these points at all because they simply don't have to.
Court cases are used as a fallacy to demonise all women just as domestic violence is used the same way to demonise all men. It would be stupid of me to say "I'll never ever let a man be in a relationship with me, because he has a high chance of hurting me", wouldn't it? It's equally stupid to say "I'll never marry any woman because they have a high chance of divorcing me and on the top of that taking the kids and all my wealth". Not saying that the court system is fair. Not saying that domestic violence doesn't exist. I'm only saying that people should first and foremost get to know the people they are dating and committing to one another responsibly based on _that_ instead of relying either misandrist or misogynist takes from dumb people with way too much internet fame.
Yes I did call Pearl dumb. And I can call her ugly too if you want
Robin Williams once said "Don't get married, just find a woman you hate and buy her a house". I don't blame men for not tying the knot, and I'm a woman!!
I'm a woman but don't see the appeal of marriage for women... If you fancy dying before your time then sure.
Also the idea that my men lose everything in divorce is absolutely not true, there are some that do of course but majority don't. You people need to look actual stats and not base your ideas off internet people.
There was once a redhead girl who used to be on the Whatever podcast(if you know, you know) who made it known that she was promiscuous and had an Onlyfans. Now, she found God, dropped that type of lifestyle, is promoting a more healthy lifestyle.
PearlyThings is still trying to slander her for her past that she's clearly trying to grow from. It was at that point where it became clear that PearlyThings isn't trying to defend men's rights and hypocrisies, but is some pick me girl trying to insult women to get in the good graces of the red pill community.
Thank you for your discussion of selection bias.
Your ending thesis that short term controversy-seeking-behavior will result in a short term public career is a genuinely interesting hypothesis.
Bagage claim is absolutely right about this. she has absolutely explained what i wanted to say about pearl and social media influencers like this.