why? it's make believe the F35 was smoking this exact Boeing design in testing and the F22 murders the F35. The Boeing designed had way better engines too!
Kind of amusing that the people who are going "Su-75 don't exist and won't exist" are likely the same people singing praises to performance of Darkstar, a movie prop.
Looool see this is an interesting observation. When I made the dark star video not 1 comment was made about how it’s not real lol, but the checkmate a real plane at least in concept mode (more real then the darkstar) makes everyone lose their mind. Great observation.
@@dylandarnell3657 For what it’s worth, China is obviously considered a more genuine challenge than Russia now, and they thought the Darkstar was real enough to maneuver a spy satellite, but also no longer have much interest in new Russian aircraft.
@@dylandarnell3657 but thats not the point lol, its that when I make a video with it no one points out its not real, but in checkmate videos its the most popular comment, There are people who still think the su57 is not real, and it has literally escorted putin's jet in real videos.
A pretty good performance by the Checkmate, considering the guns-only limitation that's pretty much what the F-16 was designed for, and that it was against GS.
5:35 "I can get the overshoot" *Ded* 🤣 Dang, the Russians are really stepping up their anti-hubris munitions, that round was knocking on your canopy before you even finished the sentence 😂 Jokes aside, this was a really impressive fight. Excellent job by both you and your opponent. The F-16 really is a phenomenal aircraft, holding its own against fighters decades more advanced than itself and still bringing substantial capabilities to any theater it is deployed in.
"This thing is supposedly a raptor killer". This is Russia's "answer" to the F-35, and attempting to field a cheaper, more available option than the Su-57. It is in no way comparable to an F-22, and doesn't even have a flying prototype yet.
So we don't know anything about the Su-75, but we DO know that it's a piece of garbage already just because it's Russian. Man USimps never fail to amaze me
Ребят, я как русский ответственно вам заявляю. У нас его: 1 никто так не называет 2 все про него забыли, т.к. это просто идея, а до реализации ещё очень долго. Ну и да, это скорее ответ ф35
@@dvaritek434 yeah f22 is crazy. It’s as dominant as the f16 on 2 circle on the deck but has crazy instantaneous turn for equal dominance in the 1 circle. All while being stealth and primarily designed for bvr
You mean replacing the F-22 with NGAD? They are keeping some of the F-22s and modifying it and also (rumor, only heard from one source) making it nuclear capable. @@Nr15121
@@TankandDimples The F22s got upgraded but will retire soon. They wont be destroyed or anything, just kept in hangars. about the F22 being nuclear capable, i don't think they will make make it nuclear capable because there is no need. They already have some new stealth bombers which can do the job a lot better than the F22
The F-22 will get retired just like the A-10s have... It's funny how people beleive they just retire everything. It's all to make other countries feel like they won't have to worry bout what we have in the air.
The F16 will be a viable platform for many years to come!..it amazes me just how old this design is and yet it can still hold its own in many scenarios with some of the news fighters out there!..
I knew as soon as I heard "I can get the overshoot!" - that was it, it was over. Certain phrases or ideas just seem to be tempting fate. Nice as always to see the Viper has still got it.
One thing I can give a SOLID guess for, is that the Su-75 may not be capable of taking tons of battle damage, but can absolutely dance in the sky. The V-tail config flies totally different from the contemporary tail if the computer allows it to. I've done a ton of at home tunneling for models I've built, and in sub-sonic, V-tails allow for some pretty gnarly moves
smh, dude this isn't even a real jet yet, so how does anybody knows what it can do. Its stolen tech it's identical to the Boeing jet that the F35 was murdering in testing and the Boeing had way better engines that's why the F35 won the contest.
The 16 is my favorite aircraft in the US arsenal. But the 22 really reminds me of a tiger shark, the way the wing tips are swept down. And how it just sneaks up on the opponents.
I appreciate you having the island of Guam 🇬🇺 in your videos. As a native of the island we always have a problem with China, North Korea and Russia threatening to launch their ICBMs at the island due to the high military presence in the region.
The "Raptor killer" huh? Well I'm gonna say that if it is outmatched by a plane that made it's debut in 1979, than I'm pretty confident the Raptor could surgically remove any wing it desires at will. lol Just sayin. Great vid as always.
Yes, because unlike the R77M, the AIM-260 actually exists. Hence Sukhoi's of all varieties still carrying R27ER's and ETs in 2024. I genuinely don't believe they were ever able to mass produce even the R77-1
That's probably closer to the actual plan for it - single-engine multirole fighter with some HOBS air-to-air capability. It's not gonna be able to touch the Raptor.
@@vicroc4 Frankly, assuming it ever materializes, it probably won't touch F-35 either considering what that thing is getting with the up and coming Block 4 package. Better stealth and INFINITELY better systems capabilities than Su-57 or what Russia hopes the Su-75 will be. F-22 has better stealth than F-35, but F-35 is like the damn eye of Sauron. There is nowhere you can hide where it will not eventually find you; almost certainly before you find it.
The fact that a fighter designed in the seventies is hanging with a fighter designed in the 2020's in mind boggling! I understand upgrades but this thing is rocking the same basic aerodynamics that it was born with! Think about that!
I think the Russian government has signed documents that they only purchase twin engine fighters. They may have changed that. Maybe someone knows? Still love the look of that Checkmate. If they have the controls of the aircraft correct, there is no way on this planet that is an F-22 killer. But only one way to find out right. I can hopefully see the future, and you can do an F-22 versus Mig-75 video. Great video champ and much support your way. Legend.
The F-16 Viper, still one of the best at what it was designed to do, and it was entirely designed for dog-fighting. This is why now matter how advanced newer planes get, if they aren't designed specifically for dog-fighting, they likely will not beat it at a dogfight. It's a purpose built coupe verses a sporty family car kind of thing.
@@vicroc4 The Darkstar was a movie prop. Everyone knows it was a movie prop. Nobody ever claimed it was anything other than a movie prop. There are no plans to mass-produce the Darkstar, because [a] it was an experimental testbed for hypersonic scramjet technology and never intended for combat deployment or mass production, and [b] it was, and I cannot stress this enough, A MOVIE PROP.
Did I miss anything? Who called Su-75 a raptor killer? the only thing I can find is C.W Lemoines video on the Su-75. I mean I never heard of it being called "raptor killer" just being curious.
Sukoi calls it a "raptor killer" in their marketing material. But no one believes them. No one, not even the Russian government, ordered any or were willing to invest in its development.
@@GrowlingSidewinder My friend, did they actually said that, or did you hear someone else say that Russians said that ? Because I just tried finding anyone officially calling it "Raptor Killer" and coming up empty. All I can find are references to potential competition with F-35 on export market as a cheaper alternative. Russians themselves have a policy that all combat aircraft have to be 2 engine design (minimum obviously), the SU-75 is a private venture by UAC aimed at export market. I really dont get where you came up with that whole "Raptor killer" idea. It did raise one hell of a shitstorm in comments tho, I guess that was the point ? P.S Love the videos, waiting to see you in SU-75 to hear how it is currently modelled in DCS.
"Oh I can get a overshoot......." exactly the content I subbed for. Keep it up GS, good day to ya. And whens the 'two idiots take on other stuff' series gonna return? I miss the banter b/w the two of you.🤓
They did a decent job modeling that waporware. The Su-75 Femboy at least looks like it will be comparable to an F-18E Block-3 performance wise, assuming it ever enters production...
Watched the SU 75 vs F 22 BVR but would like to the the two in a dogfight scenario. Also would like to see the Eurofighter Typhoon up against the SU 75 in both scenarios as well.
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@@Anarchy_420that would be cool
@@Anarchy_420 You’re welcome
Day 53 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21
Can you tell with your experience in DCS, which fighter can at least hold its own against F22 in a dogfight?
What's the company's name that builds your pc ?
Did he oversh...... And to the face keeping the tradition of famous last words alive
"Yeah, we can make it out of thi....." KILLED IN ACTION 😂😂
So Alex Hollings says the aim 260 is probably deployed on some raptors now. Feels like it’s time for some Aim-260 raptor action.
this is ALEX POWER
And on that note ends another Russian supposed air superiority fighter.
Upgraded Raptors with upgraded missles sounds spicy.
Nothing is proven.
@@Anarchy_420 I'm kind of waiting for someone to release a MiG-41 (vaporware, like the Su-75) with R-37Ms vs. the -15EchoXray.
SU-75 was designed to hunt Imperial Tie fighters.
Can we see the F-22 dogfighting the Su-75 now? To see if this thing really is a “raptor killer”
why? it's make believe the F35 was smoking this exact Boeing design in testing and the F22 murders the F35. The Boeing designed had way better engines too!
If it is a Raptor killer then we should replace Rock Paper Scissors with F-22 F-16 Su-75
You can even create a Death Star on paper.
Seeing as the raptor is an absolute menace in dogfighting you wouldn't want to face in an F16, I doubt the SU-75 has an edge on the raptor.
@@Anarchy_420 Perfect scenario Cant wait
Very nearly experienced sympathetic vertigo watching this with all the _head on a swivel_ POV of a proper dogfight. Well done
"I can get the overshoot" He said confidently. But GS didn't know that it was all Sukhover the moment the Su-75 took his 6
He got Mikoyannihilated and Su-bverted
Kind of amusing that the people who are going "Su-75 don't exist and won't exist" are likely the same people singing praises to performance of Darkstar, a movie prop.
Looool see this is an interesting observation. When I made the dark star video not 1 comment was made about how it’s not real lol, but the checkmate a real plane at least in concept mode (more real then the darkstar) makes everyone lose their mind. Great observation.
To my knowledge, nobody in any government position has ever claimed that the Darkstar is real. Everyone knows it's a movie prop.
@@dylandarnell3657 For what it’s worth, China is obviously considered a more genuine challenge than Russia now, and they thought the Darkstar was real enough to maneuver a spy satellite, but also no longer have much interest in new Russian aircraft.
@@dylandarnell3657 but thats not the point lol, its that when I make a video with it no one points out its not real, but in checkmate videos its the most popular comment, There are people who still think the su57 is not real, and it has literally escorted putin's jet in real videos.
Just how they think they are safe 😂😂😂😂Putin does not engage with the devil USA
A pretty good performance by the Checkmate, considering the guns-only limitation that's pretty much what the F-16 was designed for, and that it was against GS.
Nice to see someone understood that this fight was very much favouring the f-16.
Note to self: never EVER EVER get into a 2 circle with a Viper.
Unless you're in a raptor
Word to live by.
It's funny but in DCS F18 outrates it at it's rate speeds
And never get involved in a land war in asia
unless he has an actual combat load
You can tell GS is about to die when he starts talking faster xD
5:34 really got that overshoot there lol.
The Viper never ceases to amaze me. It's amazing what an old airframe can do with a skilled pilot. Great vid!
5:36 famous last words... again
The F-16 really is just a nasty little monster, I love it.
the moment he said:" i think i can get the overshoot" i knew he would die. he always dies when he gets too cocky hahahaha
love the sound of a splat in the morning
Props to Golf 2-3, I think he has improved a lot since you first fought him. Definitely still a bit behind you but he's making steps.
F-16:if you’re struggling against me, you got no chance against the kid.
"Would you intercept me?"
@@nathaniellazo5912 "I'd INTERCEPT MEE!!"
and yet the Typhoon comes out on top in dogfight wargames against the F-16 and the F-22 XD
The SU-75 Drawing Board
Su-75 Vaporware
always wondered why they dont put missiles facing the back of the plane or to the sides for dogfights
5:35 "I can get the overshoot" *Ded* 🤣 Dang, the Russians are really stepping up their anti-hubris munitions, that round was knocking on your canopy before you even finished the sentence 😂
Jokes aside, this was a really impressive fight. Excellent job by both you and your opponent. The F-16 really is a phenomenal aircraft, holding its own against fighters decades more advanced than itself and still bringing substantial capabilities to any theater it is deployed in.
"This thing is supposedly a raptor killer". This is Russia's "answer" to the F-35, and attempting to field a cheaper, more available option than the Su-57. It is in no way comparable to an F-22, and doesn't even have a flying prototype yet.
So we don't know anything about the Su-75, but we DO know that it's a piece of garbage already just because it's Russian. Man USimps never fail to amaze me
in russia, you never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
yeah tend to think these imaginary russian fighters are all way overrated in DCS.
@@paradiddlesixix7530 Hey, a good shitpost deserves it's thumb ups.
Ребят, я как русский ответственно вам заявляю. У нас его:
1 никто так не называет
2 все про него забыли, т.к. это просто идея, а до реализации ещё очень долго.
Ну и да, это скорее ответ ф35
In a guns only dogfight, it amazes me how much the Viper rewards cool and calm piloting.
Always nice to see the Viper do what it does best ... fly around in circles very fast and shoot shiny new jets out of the sky.
YF-23 VS SU-47 dogfight?
The dogfight in another universe
I wheezed when you started explaining the overshoot and got smoked immediately ;D 5:37
That's gotta be in one of those death edits of yours!
You gotta do su-75 vs f-22
none of it matter unless its bvr
@@jamesjross if Russia is claiming that the Checkmate is a Raptor killer then GS needs to do it in every engagement type, BVR and dogfight
If it struggles with viper, f22 will utterly dominate it.
@@dvaritek434 yeah f22 is crazy. It’s as dominant as the f16 on 2 circle on the deck but has crazy instantaneous turn for equal dominance in the 1 circle. All while being stealth and primarily designed for bvr
@@dvaritek434 you forgot the fact it was a guns only fight? Checkmate wouldve smoked the f16 if fox 2's were allowed
Calling that thing a raptor killer is a joke. It was fighting to stay with the falcon.
If Russia even manages to build it it won’t ever get the chance to kill a raptor they’ll probably be making the replacement for the ngad by then
You mean replacing the F-22 with NGAD? They are keeping some of the F-22s and modifying it and also (rumor, only heard from one source) making it nuclear capable. @@Nr15121
F16 looks like Cheverly in indy 500
I have to stay in a curb lane can not go low can not do what a race driver should. But I will drive my own race😂
@@TankandDimples The F22s got upgraded but will retire soon.
They wont be destroyed or anything, just kept in hangars.
about the F22 being nuclear capable, i don't think they will make make it nuclear capable because there is no need.
They already have some new stealth bombers which can do the job a lot better than the F22
The F-22 will get retired just like the A-10s have... It's funny how people beleive they just retire everything. It's all to make other countries feel like they won't have to worry bout what we have in the air.
Great Fight and Piloting from you as usual! Very good!
The only thing that would make this better is to see and hear the other pilot's response to the kill shots.
its amazing how the viper manage to stay current with the new generations fighters ... amazing little plane
“Raptor killer” struggles to kill the viper the one time it did
Yeah, not really looking good for the Su-75
@@vicroc4 it's funny you think these mods are anything close to the real (classified) aircraft.
@@SA80TAGE What's even funnier is that this model is actually the closest the Su-75 has been to flying.
The F16 will be a viable platform for many years to come!..it amazes me just how old this design is and yet it can still hold its own in many scenarios with some of the news fighters out there!..
I knew as soon as I heard "I can get the overshoot!" - that was it, it was over. Certain phrases or ideas just seem to be tempting fate.
Nice as always to see the Viper has still got it.
Closing shot - "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar!"
Too soon!
The "Checkmate" thought it wasn't playing Chess. Not even Checkers. It was really playing tic tac toe.
Patiently waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
A true Raptor killer, in the sense that like every other Raptor killer, it does not exist
The Su model popping all the bays to shoot the gun is hilarious
Great fight of both pilots. Would be interesting seeing you in the Su-75.
These fantasy vatnik planes make me chuckle
Everyone is a Raptor killer... Until they take off.
Only the US seems to be able to have something to counter the F-22 lul
Su-75 should open the door to other completely fictional planes like the F-19.
your videos are not only entertaining and educating. you can use them perfectly for cleaning the monitor as well.
End of round 2 you could have reached out and grabbed Golf's dogtags for trophies lol
The death in the 1st round was beautifully cinematic. Then you shot him in the head and came through in the clutch. 👍 GS has still got it!
Well to be fair, in the real world, you got only one try. But hey, that's why we love DCS.
One thing I can give a SOLID guess for, is that the Su-75 may not be capable of taking tons of battle damage, but can absolutely dance in the sky. The V-tail config flies totally different from the contemporary tail if the computer allows it to. I've done a ton of at home tunneling for models I've built, and in sub-sonic, V-tails allow for some pretty gnarly moves
smh, dude this isn't even a real jet yet, so how does anybody knows what it can do. Its stolen tech it's identical to the Boeing jet that the F35 was murdering in testing and the Boeing had way better engines that's why the F35 won the contest.
It doesn't exist.
Ah. A hole-in-one on the first round. That Golf guy...
Raptor killer my arse. Maybe it could win a 2 circle with a small planet, or maybe a moon. Or a C-5 Galaxy at a pinch..
" can get an overshoot" enemy draws a line down his fuselage, lol
DCS has more functional SU75 than the russian airforce. 😂
@Velikan5.45x39mmconcept* it has yet to have entered proper testing
You've won the Internet for the day. LMAO
The F35 is incapable of shooting down an SU75 squadron. This is because Russia does not poses a squadron of SU75s.
Same with f 22 and everything else so funny 🤣
“I can get the overshoot-“
*the 30mm waiting to object*
I feel like GS talking to us got him distracted in that first dogfight.
The 16 is my favorite aircraft in the US arsenal. But the 22 really reminds me of a tiger shark, the way the wing tips are swept down. And how it just sneaks up on the opponents.
How many times have we heard the term "Raptor killer"? 😆
Ikr. Very true.
Eurofighter vs 75 checkmate would be dope
Lurking around, always avoiding their front and aiming at the blind spot, like a true viper against a bigger pred! Amazing showcase of skill
"i think the overshoot looks-" *gets a group of lead pellets to the head*
My mind goes to the South Park Christmas Critter special: "He's rate-ing me."
I appreciate you having the island of Guam 🇬🇺 in your videos. As a native of the island we always have a problem with China, North Korea and Russia threatening to launch their ICBMs at the island due to the high military presence in the region.
Buen video bro.
Amo los dogfight. Saludos desde Argentina Crack.
prepare for an overused joke but; the 75 in its name stands for the amount of kilometers away you will see it on your radar
I love the flexes at the end when you win lol
Once again, amazing dogfight GS!
На кампьютере! В реальности сша жопа против России и поэтому реальных боев нет !
The "Raptor killer" huh? Well I'm gonna say that if it is outmatched by a plane that made it's debut in 1979, than I'm pretty confident the Raptor could surgically remove any wing it desires at will. lol Just sayin. Great vid as always.
Can you please do more AIM 260 videos?
YES
Yes, because unlike the R77M, the AIM-260 actually exists. Hence Sukhoi's of all varieties still carrying R27ER's and ETs in 2024. I genuinely don't believe they were ever able to mass produce even the R77-1
What are you yapping about, they still use R-27ER/ET in certain interception missions @@Chineseguilt
The Checkmate looks very much like our "Fat Amy"
That's probably closer to the actual plan for it - single-engine multirole fighter with some HOBS air-to-air capability. It's not gonna be able to touch the Raptor.
@@vicroc4 Frankly, assuming it ever materializes, it probably won't touch F-35 either considering what that thing is getting with the up and coming Block 4 package. Better stealth and INFINITELY better systems capabilities than Su-57 or what Russia hopes the Su-75 will be. F-22 has better stealth than F-35, but F-35 is like the damn eye of Sauron. There is nowhere you can hide where it will not eventually find you; almost certainly before you find it.
Thank you very much!! I did do a comment about that and asked if you would use a viper against the checkmate!!!!
not sure how anyone even has any data on the Su-75 yet.
How would the F-16 perform if they were able to change the engine to provide thrust vectoring?
su-75 is just a 3d model at this stage. who knows what its actual testing capabilities will be in the end.
The FIGHTING FALCON is still the referent regarding lightweight dogfight.
The fact that a fighter designed in the seventies is hanging with a fighter designed in the 2020's in mind boggling! I understand upgrades but this thing is rocking the same basic aerodynamics that it was born with! Think about that!
I think the Russian government has signed documents that they only purchase twin engine fighters. They may have changed that. Maybe someone knows?
Still love the look of that Checkmate. If they have the controls of the aircraft correct, there is no way on this planet that is an F-22 killer. But only one way to find out right. I can hopefully see the future, and you can do an F-22 versus Mig-75 video.
Great video champ and much support your way.
Legend.
The F-16 Viper, still one of the best at what it was designed to do, and it was entirely designed for dog-fighting. This is why now matter how advanced newer planes get, if they aren't designed specifically for dog-fighting, they likely will not beat it at a dogfight. It's a purpose built coupe verses a sporty family car kind of thing.
This is like the video of theNGAD, fighting a plane’s theoretical specs but the plane doesn’t exist in reality
the f-16 being as old as it is still slapping dlcks in the sky.
The F-16 has long been one of my favorite fighters of all time, both visually and by capability.
@3:00 does the Checkmate have a gun behind a panel? I was curious why it opened up some doors like that.
You should make a video about fighting with UFOs. The same non-existent machine as the SU-75.
Hey, at least there's plans to produce it - unlike the Darkstar.
@@vicroc4 The Darkstar was a movie prop. Everyone knows it was a movie prop. Nobody ever claimed it was anything other than a movie prop.
There are no plans to mass-produce the Darkstar, because [a] it was an experimental testbed for hypersonic scramjet technology and never intended for combat deployment or mass production, and [b] it was, and I cannot stress this enough, A MOVIE PROP.
Did I miss anything? Who called Su-75 a raptor killer? the only thing I can find is C.W Lemoines video on the Su-75. I mean I never heard of it being called "raptor killer" just being curious.
Sukoi calls it a "raptor killer" in their marketing material. But no one believes them. No one, not even the Russian government, ordered any or were willing to invest in its development.
That’s what they called it and said it was when it was first shown to the public a while back
@@GrowlingSidewinder oh ok, thanks for explaining, then I probably missed that part of the video🥴 great dogfights between keep up with the content👍
@@GrowlingSidewinder My friend, did they actually said that, or did you hear someone else say that Russians said that ? Because I just tried finding anyone officially calling it "Raptor Killer" and coming up empty. All I can find are references to potential competition with F-35 on export market as a cheaper alternative. Russians themselves have a policy that all combat aircraft have to be 2 engine design (minimum obviously), the SU-75 is a private venture by UAC aimed at export market. I really dont get where you came up with that whole "Raptor killer" idea. It did raise one hell of a shitstorm in comments tho, I guess that was the point ?
P.S Love the videos, waiting to see you in SU-75 to hear how it is currently modelled in DCS.
last battle: Welp, there goes the neighborhood.
13:46 He thinks he can beat me in a 2-circle... negative Ghostrider...
Amazing flying in the last round🔥🔥
What a machine that Viper!!
Russia: we made a raptor killer
Also Russia: we aren’t building it
"Oh I can get a overshoot......." exactly the content I subbed for. Keep it up GS, good day to ya. And whens the 'two idiots take on other stuff' series gonna return? I miss the banter b/w the two of you.🤓
The su75 has recently been produced as an EARLY PROTOTYPE
Great video, I have always loved the F-16 !!
Checkmate...to the Checkmate! Hahahahaha!!!!! OK, it was funnier in my head.
It is soo stealth, that even the light reflects and we unable to see this Wonderwaffe
Every plane that claims to be a "raptor killer" would only end up being raptor food
F-16 will always be my favorite despite new fighters coming out
The F-16's relevancy all these years later is impressive, same can be said for the F-15 and F-18 ofc but wow!
They did a decent job modeling that waporware. The Su-75 Femboy at least looks like it will be comparable to an F-18E Block-3 performance wise, assuming it ever enters production...
If I'm in that subdivision I'm taking souvenirs
Man I wanna see more A-G BVR and SEAD in the F-16C amazing vid
A ballooon Vs passive aggressive glances
Watched the SU 75 vs F 22 BVR but would like to the the two in a dogfight scenario. Also would like to see the Eurofighter Typhoon up against the SU 75 in both scenarios as well.