i honestly think the benefits of the tests in the beginning came from the testers not regularly drinking normal water, because all the benefits sounded like they just started drinking more water 😭
I've read a lot of the studies about this. In many of them, there's a control group, where people drink normal water. The researchers compare the results of the people who drink the normal water with the group that drinks the hydrogen water.
It makes sense, as a non-water drinker when I push it over 3 lt /day I see a difference so... it might just engage the user with more water consumption as the main benefit. On the rest, 1 hour before training for example, it is a good idea to drink a sodium bicarbonate solution with water (starting from a deficient solution for those who haven't tried it and work up according to what makes each person comfortable) as a more alkaline solution which neutralises acids in the muscles. So I don't see how a more acidic solution in the body can be a benefit when exercising (which for me is the ultimate factor in making conclusions about health)
Chemical engineer here. Hydrogen is non-polar, H2O is polar so they do not mix. It might stay in there for a little bit, but probably not for too long (like CO2 in sparkling water). Too lazy to do research on it... but what if it's not the hydrogen that had the positive effects, but the people they tested it on drinking water more regularly that had positive effects. Also, H3O does not exist, it's H3O+ and will always be present in water (look up auto-ionisation) and the lower PH of the tablet is due to the acids, so your device is not broken or wrong. For reference, Coke has a pH below 3, not the best for your teeth but also way more acidic + high in sugars so 5 is probably fine. I think it's bullshit and if it's not, then the effects are probably going to be small. Looking at it from the other side, I don't see why it would do any harm, apart from bacteria an/or mold building up on the membranes when not in use. Hope this can potentially help.
Chemist here, I can say that 'like dissolves like' is a useful guideline but not universally accurate. For instance, we often use polar solvents like acetone and ethanol to dissolve non-polar organic molecules effectively. Additionally, water contains various dissolved gases, and for reactions highly sensitive to oxygen, the water must be 'sparged,' replacing these gases with nitrogen. Also, the commonly referenced H3O+ ion doesn't actually exist as such. Spectroscopic evidence supports the Stoyanov hexahydrate form, where H+ is surrounded by six water molecules.
You should have gotten a before and after blood test with lymphocytes to neutrophils ratio or your c reactive protein to see if it potentially reduced inflammation as it claims
Hey i gave an idea for a video try weightlifting for a week I wana try myself. Lol I’ve been bodybuilding but I want try something new your videos are entertaining plus I like humbleness
A former well tester here. I purchased the cheap one from amazon and have had good results. As stated the ecogo+ runs for 5 minutes, the others run for three. So thats why the increase over the others. I ran my cheap one for two, three minute cycles back to back and achieved 2000 PPB or 2 PPM. Thank you for the video I would not have thought to do this without your data! Saved me 250 bucks!
Hey man, I never usually comment but as someone who is slowly going blind at a young age, and trying to find a cure through scientific experimentation, I’ve gotta say that I’m impressed by your scientific curiosity. Your determination to find out if the claims for hydrogen water are true are pretty admirable too.
Hi, For eye health research and start adding things like, TUDCA, citicoline, alpha GPC, lutein, zexanthine(lutein and this one often is in the same extract, marigold extract), beta carotene, astaxanthin. Also read up on using Taurine, getting a good a vitamin source, I use organic chicken liver. You probably will need d vitamin and its Co factors in optimal amounts. Read up on it. I drink organic carrot juice to get a good source of beta carotene. Synthetic beta carotene is not safe. Another classic that works for eye health is all types of dark berries you can find, like bilberry, aronia, maqui, black, acai, blackcurrant. I am sure you already know about all kinds of eye exercises we can do to improve our eyesight so I will not detail anything here, that whole topic is massive. And hard to describe in a quick comment. When you have researched this. You will find out that all these nutrient are all key to massively better eye health and slower progression and in many cases even reversal of the weakness we had in the first place. And when you have researched this and realize I know what I am talking about as far as eye health and nutrition goes. You should know that this video topic hydrogen water, also works to improve health. But you have to use RO or distilled water in the bottle. I wish you well on your journey and that the keys I am giving you, will lead you to a better outcome than what it seem to be right now for you.
@@shaid2130 Sure man good luck. And let me know how it goes. Remember to not buy the cheapest stuff, buy from known big brands until you know the effect for sure. And then you can try to find cheaper options. Because for some of this there is fakes out there. For example alpha gpc and TUDCA I have encountered fakes on amazon for example. So stick to well known brands with lots of reviews or at least from trusted stores, if you want to try something until you have some experience.
I tried an hho system on my 1990 Pontiac years ago to get better gas mileage, they called it the "charged water system" because the electrolysis was done outside the vehicle and you just "bubble" the water into another jar of water leaving a little space at the top then that goes into the car with a small diameter tube going into the air intake. I was shocked it actually worked and I got 8 mpg better gas mileage! It lasted about 2 days before the cars computer started adjusting fuel output thinking the car was running lean because of the different O2 sensor readings so I had to keep resetting the computer and eventually added a resistor to control it.
Try drinking a bunch of it right before you are going to run for long and hard. It is the strongest noticeable effect for me that is undeniable. Sometimes I don't have time to do it and run as usual anyway. And man, it is way worse, the fatigue builds up so much worse. Drinking a bunch of this makes the run way smoother. And to anyone smart....yes if I don't have time I still drink regular water. For me the difference is not that I drink more. Or at all or something. I have used this for years. It is not anything magic. It gives a bit better health, over the years it compounds. I am not only doing this I am doing everything you can. I am stacking health and potential to my best knowledge and ability. And this is one of the good ones to add to any stack if you want a bit of extra potential. I can workout harder and recover faster. My health has certainly improved since I started and I will drink this until the grave for sure. How do I know it even works when I am doing a bunch of other stuff. Because a few times I had a broken bottle and had to get a new one. And for me it is really noticeable on my general energy levels and how hard I can push my body. And I push it really hard, everyday and I have been on this journey for decades. I have to juggle a lot of things to be able to sustain this level. And this is one of health boosters I like to use. I have done a LOT of research about it. And I see no health issues from doing it. As long as you use a good quality bottle, most are garbage, and you use pure RO or distilled water. And you make sure you clean out the bottle properly regularly. This is done by taking it apart and cleaning any part besides membranes with regular washing up liquid in the sink. And then putting it together again. And then you put a bit of citric acid in it shake it and let it dissolve. Run a cycle and then discard the water. Run a cycle with fresh water. Then you run a cycle with sodium bicarbonate in it. Discard that. And run a few water cycles. And then it is clean and as good as you can get it again. It can get real funky if you don't clean it properly. Don't skimp on that. Also it gets weaker if you don't clean it regularly. So it is both a hygiene and effect thing. Also when the battery is running low, it is making weaker water. So it might be a good idea to not let it run down completely and that also saves a bit on the battery cycles just like in your phone. You can see on the bubbles intensity when it start to get weaker. And also the puff noise when you open the bottle. Try it out don't expect to much and enjoy a bit of extra potential for not a big investment of money, time or energy. For me it is worth it. I am always looking to optimize every possible part of my nutrition and every possible part of me. And this is a small part of my optimization of the water I consume. There is levels to this and using this is one of them, you can chose to add for your health and potential.
@@daviddavies2467 Nothing. I am just a please user. I offer my experience for free and I have zero finacial gain from doing so. Do you have anything useful to add to our quest to optimize our health David? Or is being a sceptic with no experience the best you can offer?
I have suffered from fatigue illness for more than 7 years and I consume a hundred types of vitamins and minerals but I still don't feel any reduction in fatigue, especially after working hours. But since I consumed hydrogen water from the very first time, I never experienced any of it ever again. I guess that hydrogen content probably helps me to absorb all my vitamins very well. Its been 6 months now and I still drink it as my normal water.
@@justas5183 Already did many times. And I have very much confirmed it works for what I use it for. So now you do the same. Instead of just being a skeptic discounting our experiences. Try it out for yourself. And come back here and tell us you feel no benefit and we are all full of s. Or you found another level of health like we did.
II did this deep dive and here is the most valuable points!: Only buy the premium brand bottle, the cheaper bottles actually make chlorine also which is terrible! This guy didn’t use the 2nd button press which mine is 5 min or 10min and I always use the 10 min timer! The other key part is you must chug the bottle soon as it’s ready and opened or the hydro is gone and it’s a waste! My bottle I have to drink a min of 6 bottles per day or there is no benefit and optimally you need to drink 11 of them per day to see any change which is crazy and not worth it! Just drink a 9.5+ true PH water that comes from a machine on the spot like Whole Foods has. It’s $3 per gallon but it’s a true rating and the best to drink. Hope this helps! I spent 4.5 months testing all of these!!!
Water with higher (or lower levels) of Ph are instantly neutralized in your system, it does nothing. Human body has a Ph of 7.35-7.45…variations outside of that range, even just slightly have series consequences.
where is it getting the chorine from also it would react almost instantly with the hydronium ions in the water making hydrogen chloride and making the water more basic (which is observed to be fair) ive heard the vast majority of the membranes are from dupont which produces many products with chlorine so traces might also be found in these products
This video was very helpful in helping understand what all the hype is about. I’m glad you’re going to continue investigating, testing and documenting your findings because IMHO one week is definitely not long enough to determine if the water infusion is beneficial or not. I, for one, would be more curious to see if you notice any difference over a 90-day period. I just subbed, so I’ll be looking for an update. Thanks for your time, energy and efforts to give us a genuinely honest review.
Since you probably still have the testing equipment, how bout testing one or more of the cheap systems after 3 consecutive runs to see if the cheap one can produce as much hydrogen as the expensive one just by running it more
He just proved the expensive one has the exact same as the cheapest. Did you not watch till the end. The expensive only tested higher because its hydrogenising if thats a word. But yeah its only doing half the amount of water so its gonna read a higher parts per million. Id go for the cheap one. At least its made of glass and uses less electric also. All the expensive one is, is a fancier design.
The one he used was obviously a genetically modified apple. They're modified specifically so they do not brown. 😂Organic apples should brown rapidly. That alone makes the test he did moot, unfortunately. He needs to do it again with an organic apple. I'd be curious about the actual results if it was done right. Though I would think that just being submerged in any water immediately would slow browning considerably. 😅
@@talysharawlins94 ye man i was suprised with that apple not going yellow, i have garden with apples and i have never seen that shit, in 10-15mins it goes yellow, depends how sweet it is or acidic
can’t wait for you to try the ATG knees over toes protocol for a month. you’ll be dunking! i bet he’d do a collaboration with you. He has changed the future of sports medicine
Excellent video! Thorough. I just wish you would have tested the other bottles half full to see if it rendered higher readings etc. as you mentioned. Perhaps you could do a follow-up video! Thank You for all the effort you put into making this video.
The Alex Tarnava interview with Dr. Gundry they say hydrogen water has a hormetic effect and you should only consume 1-3 servings per day. And Alex says to chug it quickly. I don't know if any of that is true.
GenX as well and I swear by hydrogen water! I still drink out the hose and filter my tap water through coffee grounds, but adding this on the side has been a life changer for autoimmune disease! Also, I don't know your mom. 😅
I have the echo Go bottle and I can guarantee it works for me at least. After Covid I lost about 70-80% of my smell now after using it for 3 days my smell returned fully. Another interesting thing that happened when I first started drinking the water was my body kept craving more of the water so I ended up drinking around 3x the amount of water than I normally drink in a day. I wish in the tests he clicked the button twice to do a 10min cycle because it gives out way more ppm than just a simple one click.
That apple was insane!! I haven't made an apple pie for about 4 years, but when I did, i had to hurry to get the apples sliced up because they started to turn brown so fast! Even when first slicing them into a bowl of water with lemon juice added to slow the browning effect. ♡
Some one mentioned odorless farts! Well I can agree on this one thing 😊I think we need some more time to continue using it till we get with final outputs. Until then, I will keep using it and update my journey again soon (June 6, 2024).
12:55 Love the web-design on that page, couldn't even be bothered to align the text inside the green box, also random margins. And a big "THANK!" when you buy. That's how you know it's legit.
A problem I already see with his experiment is that many of those bottles that don’t produce hydrogen correctly, produce chlorine which is bad for you! I recommend the LevelUP brand I bought the stainless steel one and it does not produce chlorine and smells/tastes fine. I also bought the purify one that swirls like a tornado. It does remove chlorine too, but it it does not seal the water so I fear the hydrogen leaks out too quickly for it to be of as much use… so I recommend the levelup one more. It still costs around $100. Most cheaper ones produce chlorine though so be careful.
I've noticed some bottles show, say a 4 min PPM level and 8 min level, like they run the cycle twice to get more H. The PH level was interesting as that's seems to be a claim. Awesome video.
Only 4 minutes in and first thing I noticed, is you have to use distilled water, otherwise you'll also produce chlorine gas, due to dissolved chloride ions.
@@lamebubblesflysohigh no it has to be distilled. leaving tap water on the side isn't going to magically remove sodium chloride and other contaminants from the water. I wasn't talking about chlorine gas which is sometimes used to decontaminate water but its very rare practice now. It's the chloride ions, a chlorine atom bound to some light metal like sodium, calcium, magnesium. this is why distilled water is also sometime referred to as deionised water
so the bottles take the hydrogen out of water...and then put it back in? Wouldn't that mean you just end up where you started, with the same amount of hydrogen?
Yes but it’s in the form of HOH instead of H2O keeping the same amount of hydrogen but in its pure form with leftover oxygen as well, still watching the video so idk if benefits are real
@@winstonsearchill3457 The bottles claim to infuse water with more hydrogen. If the bottles were truly infusing the water with more hydrogen, it would have to add extra hydrogen to it from somewhere. The bottles are just removing hydrogen and then adding it back in and you still end up with H2O or HOH (they're identical). Adding extra hydrogen would make H2O +H2 which is what hydrogen water is supposed to be.
So there is a lot of misunderstanding with the function. The H2O breaks down to molecular hydrogen which goes back and the oxygen which is filtered out. The H2 bubbles are then in a sense trapped within the water. So while the amount of hydrogen in a sense is not really increased, because it is now in a molecular gas form, it can be differently utilized.
I use it and ive noticed a change, its not like a super charge. You also need to drink enough of it. Your diet matters as well. Regardless like it or hate it some folks are seeing results
You should go down the rabbit whole of electrolysis and silver ions cause this is so closely related. Before antibiotics people used Silver solution to heal everything, if the metal on the bottom is using silver plated metal for electrolysis. You might be getting health benefits from the silver in the water and not from the HHO.
@@dontgetrocked Cite examples? If guys like Rogan and Dana White who are into fitness (especially Rogan) and can afford anything are behind Brekka, I'll follow.
@@Samsonight33 there's a bunch of one is Renaissance periodizations video. Dana White isn't the fitness now but he wasn't always he's just a regular guy.
There is a study with blood tests. If you google it, I didn't save the link, sorry. From that study, it concluded no changes in people under 40, but over 40 they found differences.
Dude I thought I was crazy but like every plastic bottle, anything made plastic-ish that rubber smell is everywhere nowadays. Idk if the plastic has gotten cheaper or thinner, weaker over the years but something is definitely different, the off-gassing just does not go away. This is from memory foam mattresses, to water bottles (some directly tell you if they're recycled or thin to reduce plastic which they smell the worst, they're just easier to be sun damaged I guess). I've gone through so many mattresses because the memory foam ones are the best and traditional spring ones just dent overtime. but foam stinks and never goes away :( my lungs and throat feel coated when I wake up and the smell makes it hard for me to sleep. sorry for the long rant but man if there's one mattress that I finally set on is the Birch Mattress. This thing has not failed me after 2 years of owning it. I used a thin topper for a bit but got rid of that and realized I didnt need it anymore, because the topper smelled jusssst a bit and this is just decent quality I finally invested in something somewhat pricey. But now my heads clear, no weird coating feeling. all I smell is fresh clean air and it's spring lol doesn't even feel like one. seriously guys invest in high quality things that are essential to you EVERYDAY!
You're young and will have less inflammation in your body so you probably dont notice the benefits as much as older people who have more oxidative damage built up over time in our bodies. I read a study that said hydrogen water decreased oxidative stress related cognitive decline in stressed out mice, but it didnt increase cognitive ability at all in healthy mice. The health benefits are in the decrease of oxidative stress. Hydrogen water is a potent antioxidant. But you're young, and look super healthy already. You probably wont notice the difference as much as a person who has loads of inflammation and oxidation damage. Thanks for the video it was worth watching.
It has a pressure release valve, so yes it could get a bit higher but when it goes to high the valve release excess pressure to not damage the membranes. There is some versions of the bottles that has different programs like a 2 min program or a 5 min program with different presses on the button. I don't know if the one he has have that. So yes he could run it several times and it would go a bit higher but not double. So it is better to just drink it and do another because the amount is so small anyway.
I can confirm it works for arthritis victims. My mum has arthritis throughout her body. She tried this, she didn't think it was working until she stopped. Pain and lack of mobility started to come back, so she got back on it, taking it once a day. She has been using it for about two years now. At the start she could only stand for 2-3 minutes and was in alot of pain. Today she can stand long enough to cook her own meals with manageable levels of pain. Her fingers have also started to straighten out closer to normal. I used it myself for back pain and have now stopped using it after being on it constantly once a day for two years. I can say I no longer have the back issues I had once had that doctors claimed were perminant and were only going to worsen. All I can say is its a slow process but it works. Oh! Also gave it to my ex-girlfriend who had a lazy eye...She no longer has a lazy eye. Admittedly I was also extremely sceptical but it works. Not for everything but it will for some. I sure as heck don't feel any difference energy, mentally, or fitness wise.
fun fact: add salt to the bottle and turn on the cycle, to make sodium hypochlorite ("bleach"). or if you modify it so it can be on for longer. you can make sodium chlorate. a very strong oxidizer.
When using the process of electrolysis it's common to use either an LED light or laser so that you can see if there are any foreign particles floating around the idea is that they would be reflected I used the exact same process when I harvest hydrogen for fuel And when I make colloidal silver
I have a couple apples i bought from aldi a solid 3-4 months ago in my fridge and they still look completely perfect and brand new. Idk what kind of chemicals and shit they are using now days but definitely doesn't feel normal.
@@tongbokes5820 usually apples can last in a cold room during the winter. Usually by the end of winter, they can be a bit wrinkly so they would use in pies or applesauce. So, storing in a temperature controlled refrigerator would be longer. However, once it bruises, it should go fast. You remember the old saying ‘one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch’. If an apple is cut, and not dipped in lemon water, and stays fresh looking without browning, well, I would definitely not be eating that!
You might be too young to experience the benefits of extra H2. I was EXTREMELY skeptical, even made fun of a friend who adamantly professed the benefits... The notable effects are my joints feel great (and yes, I already drank over 8 glasses of H2O per day, there's no way I was dehydrated), and my workout capacity went up approximately %10. Nothing else has changed in my diet or supplement regimen. This may be due to placebo, but honestly who cares. It allows me to workout harder and feel better doing so. I'll gladly pay $$ for that...
Agreed. I have the same experience. Nothing magic, just a bit of a health boost and extra potential that I gladly take and I will use it forever. I can work out harder, faster and recovery and I have less pains at weak spots. Seemingly less inflammation overall. But overall for something that is so easy to do it is a good investment to level up I think. But the by far strongest effect i have found is when I run. If I drink a bunch of it just before I run a long hard run. Or not using it. The difference is very very noticeable on how much less fatigue I feel. It goes so much smoother and faster when I drink a bunch of it right before. And faster recovery after also, of course if I drink it when I get back. It is just a good overall tonic when you push yourself hard. And I think the closer you are to your limit the more you get out of it. Meaning kind of your point. He might be to young and healthy to really feel the difference. But I think if he is a runner and he test running on it he will feel the difference for sure.
My brother bought me one as a Christmas/birthday present (happens a lot with my January birthday). He & his wife had been using it for awhile. Our family have SO many health conditions that my sister literally ended up as a case study at the Mayo Clinic. I'm almost 57 and have been on disability for decades. He said his primary improvements were help with his spider veins (which I am hoping for) and fewer headaches. I know, for me, circulation has been a BIG issue. In fact, in my mother's family, arterial sclerosis is so prominent, it killed my uncle at age 49, and if she hadn't had 5 stents, she wouldn't have lived to be 93. My brother bought the cheapest one and I am only on bottle #2. One thing I have found AMAZING so far is I have what is called an "under developed diaphragm", which may not sound like much, but hiccups are torture and burping can sometimes be impossible. I have been comfortably burping since I drank it... Which feels like a miracle for me. But, for some reason, I also feel very tired, which I was hoping for the opposite 😒 My best guess... I also have asthma and allergies and, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but it seems like my breathing could be easier, so my cleaning plans may be postponed until tomorrow 😴 I also don't want to get too optimistic, but y pain issues might be better, but I haven't tried getting up off of the couch yet 😝
What if you take the same exact amount of water for each test, and run it for the exact same amount of time (5 min per container) then test? Additionally, I'd be curious to see the apple/pear test with the EchoGo
Yeah, because of hydrogen's very low vapor pressure, it does not stay infused in water very long. If one wants a better chance at testing its antioxidant activity with an apple, then one might try testing with glass jar and metal lid. Even then hydrogen is so small it will escape over time.
Thats the thing with all these "new"/organic age health foods, its just a "idea" that they are trying to get rich off of, without any actual science backing it.. Its called "pseudo" science, junk, fake. They are our todays snakes oils, buzzwords sold differently with new word fancy packaging for "RICH" people/hollywood, etc, til they find their rube to con, and it hits off.
Our family has experienced many benefits. We feel better energy throughout our day without a midday lull. I was having visible swelling in my finger bones before drinking hydrogen water and that has completely resolved. My husband has always needed lotion in winter for dry skin and now is not needing that. He also has had reflux regularly and hasn't mentioned that anymore. Very worthwhile for such an easy change. We use the Piurify pitcher as we have a large family (us and seven children) for the ease, options (low or high hydrogen, magnetic and self cleaning) amount of tested hydrogen (yes, we checked and compared as well) and sheer amount of water made. Thanks for your research.
I have a generator because in the long run, the expense is lower than continuously purchasing tablets, but the tablets definitely increase the concentration by about 4-5x. The tablets are excellent. Just drink it quickly if you're looking into it and really wanting the benefits.
@@richardrhcp What kind of generator do you use? I have been used and the bottles from years now. To great effect. Please give me some tips on getting an generator instead.
thank you. i am now concerned about these bottles, my machine uses double distilled water to produce the h2 gass and o2 gass from the pure water. i am concerned about this bottles which are claiming they split the h2 and o from the filter. i use a medical grade machine because of health related issue 2 years now..
When comparing the period for each hydrogen bottle, you show that echo+ has twice as long in water treatment. What happens if you extend the other to 6 minutes will there be more hydrogen?
The best form of water to drink and something I am going to suggest an experiment on next is just drinking distilled/reverse osmosis water. It's the purest form of water to drink and you remove all added nonsense to it. You have complete control over your water supply. You can get your own minerals through other means, such as magnesium lotion, potassium through bananas or potassium chloride, etc... Driking distilled water changed the trajectory of my life. I had stage three kidney disease at one point and switched to distilled water and the cysts on my kidneys went away and I haven't had any kidney issues since the firm switch over. Somehow, this is a controversial take nowadays to drink water that is PURE, but it has done nothing but help me.
yeah some peopel try to say it removes vitimins and minerals from our body i love distilled water sometimes i use my ozone machien and ozone the water same os hydrogen have no idea if it helps
I purchased a hydrogen water bottle off of Amazon for around $45.00 four days ago. You have to run it 3xs (3 mins each) to get the 3000ppm. it does seem to be infusing the water with little micro bubbles and they remain in there when you shake the water around. I don’t know if I really feel any change from drinking the water? As someone who suffers from anxiety, I do feel more calm and my nerves seem to be a bit better…but that could be from more water consumption. I do know for sure that when I use standard tap water in the bottle it does taste lot smoother and crisp very much like a bottled water, and the smell of the water is overall different as well! It is doing something positive in that regard, but are we really having any positive effects from consuming the water? It’s yet to be seen but regardless, it’s making my water at least taste better.
These devices claim to "break" some of 66% ( by number ) hydrogen bound in water into gaseous hydrogen which is in very small amounts and will not stay long in water...
If you are gonna do this for some months you prob would be better finding another way to do it that can produce more at a time, maybe using one of the others that holds more volume if it fits? Idk. Also was really expecting for you to test the hydrogen by setting it on fire hahah. great video!
Fruit doesn’t go brown any more because it’s all modified. I remember in the old days, apples would start going brown in a couple of minutes. So you need genuinely organic apples….if you can find any. The fruit test are invalid. Test with the right fruit and may get a useful result from the machines.
Would you be willing to do a test? My mom picked up one of those "cheapest" models, and I wonder whether charging the water multiple times in a row will reach comparable numbers to the EchoGo+.
H3o. But unfortunately it doesn't completely infuse in the water. I thought with as much research as you did you would know by now that the moment the water is exposed to the air, that exposure causes another chemical reaction. It causes the extra hydrogen molecule to evaporate into the air. Causing the H3o molecule to turn back into H2o. The molecule is not stable. So yes. It's a gimmick. Unfortunately. In theory the science makes sense. If the molecule were to remain stable throughout the digestion process. However, at best, according to some "experts" you have only seconds to guzzle down the water before that extra hydrogen molecule escapes back into the atmosphere. There is another way to achieve this however. But it's not through digestion. If you want tried and true results, get yourself something called ozone therapy. It works! Within minutes you actually feel different. All the benefits. However, you can't really be posting it too much because it's one of this countries' little secrets. The FDA and pharmaceutical industry will be all over you if you step on their toes. It's already happened to doctors. They start talking about it, soon there after their practice is shut down.
You think his tester was inaccurate when it showed levels of hydrogen in the water? I am not claiming that the ppm reading is accurate, but obviously the bottles did something…
try the deuterium depleted water then sonically treat that water in a water proofed speaker fed with various ac frequencies to alter the waters crystalline structure
That's interesting because when I ran a pH test (several times) it was exactly the same after running the generator for a few minutes which made sense to me because the internet says hydrogen gas is a neutral gas that does not affect the pH of water
All this is is a bunch of dehydrated hydro homies finally getting their daily intake of water & feeling more clarity from it. There can be a benefit from purifying your water & removing excess heavy metals + other random goodies found. But we also need metal to function. So, its a toss up.
You're completely correct. Some metals are absolutely essential for life. Iron and magnesium are super important. And we would probably die without them in our bloodstream
Some are made with BPA free plastic according to some companies and most higher end bottles use plastic instead of glass because it allows the psi to be at a greater level allowing it to produce more hydrogen without breaking the bottle with its pressure. I guess some even show proof of them being free from PFAS (forever lasting chemicals), metals, and BPA. Doing so much research on this right now. Finally concluded on buying an H2 Nano from hydrogen4health even though they use a DuPont membrane which DuPont has been known for using PFAS. They did provide me with a pdf that shows their water not having any PFAS and have an H2 Analytics certification. Not sure if the DuPont membrane itself has no PFAS though. Oh well I’m tired of doing research, just gonna buy it already.
@@perez104 Are you saying that the dupont versions of the membranes can contain PFAS? Or are we talking about that dupont us making PFAS and they are evil and we should not buy dupont if we can find alternatives? I ask because I have been using these things from years. With very good effects. I like it I will use it forever for sure. It is a good health boost. But I have never heard about this PFAS issue before. But it was a few years since I bought my last bottle and all the hoopla about PFAS in the water and food sources got in the news after that. So if you could please clarify for me what you mean, thanks.
@@cajampa That’s what I’m not certain on. Hydrogen4health showed a pdf of tests done on their bottle that detect PFAS but I’m not sure if the tests were done on the water or on the membrane. Regarding DuPont, I’m not sure if their products still contain PFAS. All I know is in the past they were sued for having PFAS in most of their products.
@@perez104 Hmm, if they used RO or distilled it could still contain PFAS if their water source contains it. Because nether of those way of making 0 TDS water removes 100% of PFAS. But it is still much better than not doing it though. But you said most of their products, are you actually for sure talking about these membranes? Or are we talking general dupont products. I mean they made Teflon. They made the whole type of chemicals they invented it as far as understand. But they are a massive Chem company. They make countless other products that had nothing to do with PFAS. So just to be sure. Are you talking about the membranes in the past being directly connected to law suites about that the membranes containing PFAS? Or are we talking about dupont being sued for all the PFAS they put out all over. That is not directly connected to these membrane. Anyway. Even if there was a trace amount. It is a stable molecule. And if we drink hydrogen water that is based on RO or distilled water. We get a lot less than if we drank tap or regular bottle water. So at least there is that. I have been using it for years add my health have been going better and better. So I not really worried. But it is a bit concerning at least.
I don't think it's a concern really. I believe many just don't want to support Dupont anymore however they have lots of products that don't contain PFAs. I suspect this is one of them.
Chester heads up after three uses the tip of the electrolysis machine builds up a layer where it stops working and you lose all benefit you should look at the one Gary brecka uses they thought about that before they built it much love love your enthusiasm
Hydrogen infused water supposed to give you a load of antioxidant (the hydrogen itself), therefore it should reduce the oxidation stress to some degree. If it really works, it would be noticable in the very long run - like years or decades - your body would just age slower. There was a lot of hype on this in Japan few years ago. SPA salons even offered a bath in hydrogen infused water. Supposedly it helps to keep a skin look younger for longer. It is hard to tell if there is a scientific base of evidence to support that claims. I was looking for that and didn't find anything meaningful beside marketing materials.
What is it emulating from nature that we are not getting that we need? If it isn't something natural then we probably don't need it. What is the difference between this and structured water?
Interesting, my wife mentioned my farts don’t smell anymore…she claimed it was from a probiotic that she always tells me to take….however, I never take them. Could the echo+ be responsible for my lack of stench? I have a guys weekend coming up, I gotta make sure not to drink from the echo then.
I used to watch Lucas’ videos like 5 years ago because they were funny. Rediscovered them like 3 months ago and always excited for an upload because he’s giving me information to be a better person. Love the videos dude!
Cliff Notes: the cheap bottles make chlorine so never buy one. Buy the premium known brands and one with a 10min timer and chug it soon as it’s ready or it meant nothing!
Would love to see a review of the Lumiq Ultra generator with the best specs I've seen. 11.5 oz, BPA Tritan, up to 8,000 PPB. Seems to be top line if it does what it says.
I bought Evolv H2GO and Echo Go+ those 2 are the only models that are certified by IHSA Standards Evolv H2GO creates 5PPM and Echo Go+ 4.5 PPM of hydrogen Great video! 💯
It happens that after drinking 5 days of hydrogenated water, my sore skin condition on my forearm tat never cure for years become healed. And after 1 month, triglyceride dropped from 534 to 436 unit level.
It's a little late to say this. But I just saw this, and an immediate concern that I wanted to emphasize to you is that if your using it, you absolutely must not have salt in the container during the electrolysis process, it WILL produce bleach if you do. probably a small amount for the short period of time, but still not something I would play around with. 2H2O -》2H2 + O2 + 2NaCl(salt) -》2H2 + 2NaClO (or more commonly known as bleach).
This is the video i was looking for, thanks to you i dont have to go down the same rabbit hole 😅 since you have the hydrogen meter, another test that would interest me is, to see how fast the hydrogen dissipates from the water. Simply hold in the meter for some time and watch the number, then you cam calculate the speed of dissipation, so you know ho long it actually stays infused with hydrogen 😊
Bro's Amazon driver is probably tired of all his experiments
grubhub drivers are annoyed that i order at 7 am
@@Efoxativeliterally not a soul that asked you for this info bud
@@zzSvinn literally not a soul was supposed to read that bud
@@Efoxative stupid response and awfull cover up, you commented that for attention
You seriously need severe professional mental help
i honestly think the benefits of the tests in the beginning came from the testers not regularly drinking normal water, because all the benefits sounded like they just started drinking more water 😭
@sirius2338 this is exactly my first thought too ! :)
I've read a lot of the studies about this. In many of them, there's a control group, where people drink normal water. The researchers compare the results of the people who drink the normal water with the group that drinks the hydrogen water.
@@christophercampbell628 what were the results?
It makes sense, as a non-water drinker when I push it over 3 lt /day I see a difference so... it might just engage the user with more water consumption as the main benefit. On the rest, 1 hour before training for example, it is a good idea to drink a sodium bicarbonate solution with water (starting from a deficient solution for those who haven't tried it and work up according to what makes each person comfortable) as a more alkaline solution which neutralises acids in the muscles. So I don't see how a more acidic solution in the body can be a benefit when exercising (which for me is the ultimate factor in making conclusions about health)
Very good point
Usually your experiments are less rigorous but good, now this is a great series of experiments with proper controls and testing. Well done.
Chemical engineer here. Hydrogen is non-polar, H2O is polar so they do not mix. It might stay in there for a little bit, but probably not for too long (like CO2 in sparkling water). Too lazy to do research on it... but what if it's not the hydrogen that had the positive effects, but the people they tested it on drinking water more regularly that had positive effects. Also, H3O does not exist, it's H3O+ and will always be present in water (look up auto-ionisation) and the lower PH of the tablet is due to the acids, so your device is not broken or wrong. For reference, Coke has a pH below 3, not the best for your teeth but also way more acidic + high in sugars so 5 is probably fine. I think it's bullshit and if it's not, then the effects are probably going to be small. Looking at it from the other side, I don't see why it would do any harm, apart from bacteria an/or mold building up on the membranes when not in use. Hope this can potentially help.
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Chemist here, I can say that 'like dissolves like' is a useful guideline but not universally accurate. For instance, we often use polar solvents like acetone and ethanol to dissolve non-polar organic molecules effectively. Additionally, water contains various dissolved gases, and for reactions highly sensitive to oxygen, the water must be 'sparged,' replacing these gases with nitrogen. Also, the commonly referenced H3O+ ion doesn't actually exist as such. Spectroscopic evidence supports the Stoyanov hexahydrate form, where H+ is surrounded by six water molecules.
That’s just what I was thinking
love how it takes one chemical engineer to tear down an entire product.
If that's true then it's legit
You should have gotten a before and after blood test with lymphocytes to neutrophils ratio or your c reactive protein to see if it potentially reduced inflammation as it claims
All you need now is a mass spectrometer, a nuclear resonance spectrometer and a ray gun and you are set...
You forgot the particle accelerator
don't forget the flux capacitor....
is this a half life reference i see?
Hey i gave an idea for a video try weightlifting for a week I wana try myself. Lol I’ve been bodybuilding but I want try something new your videos are entertaining plus I like humbleness
@@daniel_77. That should be part of every kitchen... :)
A former well tester here. I purchased the cheap one from amazon and have had good results. As stated the ecogo+ runs for 5 minutes, the others run for three. So thats why the increase over the others. I ran my cheap one for two, three minute cycles back to back and achieved 2000 PPB or 2 PPM. Thank you for the video I would not have thought to do this without your data! Saved me 250 bucks!
Great idea!👍
Any help on which one u bought would be appreciated.
Hey man, I never usually comment but as someone who is slowly going blind at a young age, and trying to find a cure through scientific experimentation, I’ve gotta say that I’m impressed by your scientific curiosity. Your determination to find out if the claims for hydrogen water are true are pretty admirable too.
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Hi, For eye health research and start adding things like, TUDCA, citicoline, alpha GPC, lutein, zexanthine(lutein and this one often is in the same extract, marigold extract), beta carotene, astaxanthin. Also read up on using Taurine, getting a good a vitamin source, I use organic chicken liver. You probably will need d vitamin and its Co factors in optimal amounts. Read up on it.
I drink organic carrot juice to get a good source of beta carotene. Synthetic beta carotene is not safe.
Another classic that works for eye health is all types of dark berries you can find, like bilberry, aronia, maqui, black, acai, blackcurrant.
I am sure you already know about all kinds of eye exercises we can do to improve our eyesight so I will not detail anything here, that whole topic is massive. And hard to describe in a quick comment.
When you have researched this.
You will find out that all these nutrient are all key to massively better eye health and slower progression and in many cases even reversal of the weakness we had in the first place.
And when you have researched this and realize I know what I am talking about as far as eye health and nutrition goes. You should know that this video topic hydrogen water, also works to improve health. But you have to use RO or distilled water in the bottle.
I wish you well on your journey and that the keys I am giving you, will lead you to a better outcome than what it seem to be right now for you.
@@cajampa Appreciate it man! Means a lot, I’ll start searching sone of the stuff you mentioned. Wish me luck
@@shaid2130 Sure man good luck. And let me know how it goes.
Remember to not buy the cheapest stuff, buy from known big brands until you know the effect for sure.
And then you can try to find cheaper options. Because for some of this there is fakes out there. For example alpha gpc and TUDCA I have encountered fakes on amazon for example.
So stick to well known brands with lots of reviews or at least from trusted stores, if you want to try something until you have some experience.
Look into castor oil for your eyes. Dr. Barbara O'Neil is a good source of info. Good luck.
I tried an hho system on my 1990 Pontiac years ago to get better gas mileage, they called it the "charged water system" because the electrolysis was done outside the vehicle and you just "bubble" the water into another jar of water leaving a little space at the top then that goes into the car with a small diameter tube going into the air intake. I was shocked it actually worked and I got 8 mpg better gas mileage! It lasted about 2 days before the cars computer started adjusting fuel output thinking the car was running lean because of the different O2 sensor readings so I had to keep resetting the computer and eventually added a resistor to control it.
Thank
Distilled water is the fountain of youth, Andrew Norton Webber
My husband did this like 10ish years ago on our little Honda civic. It's very neat!
Try drinking a bunch of it right before you are going to run for long and hard.
It is the strongest noticeable effect for me that is undeniable. Sometimes I don't have time to do it and run as usual anyway. And man, it is way worse, the fatigue builds up so much worse. Drinking a bunch of this makes the run way smoother.
And to anyone smart....yes if I don't have time I still drink regular water.
For me the difference is not that I drink more. Or at all or something.
I have used this for years.
It is not anything magic.
It gives a bit better health, over the years it compounds.
I am not only doing this I am doing everything you can. I am stacking health and potential to my best knowledge and ability.
And this is one of the good ones to add to any stack if you want a bit of extra potential.
I can workout harder and recover faster. My health has certainly improved since I started and I will drink this until the grave for sure.
How do I know it even works when I am doing a bunch of other stuff.
Because a few times I had a broken bottle and had to get a new one. And for me it is really noticeable on my general energy levels and how hard I can push my body. And I push it really hard, everyday and I have been on this journey for decades.
I have to juggle a lot of things to be able to sustain this level. And this is one of health boosters I like to use.
I have done a LOT of research about it. And I see no health issues from doing it. As long as you use a good quality bottle, most are garbage, and you use pure RO or distilled water.
And you make sure you clean out the bottle properly regularly. This is done by taking it apart and cleaning any part besides membranes with regular washing up liquid in the sink.
And then putting it together again.
And then you put a bit of citric acid in it shake it and let it dissolve. Run a cycle and then discard the water. Run a cycle with fresh water.
Then you run a cycle with sodium bicarbonate in it. Discard that.
And run a few water cycles. And then it is clean and as good as you can get it again. It can get real funky if you don't clean it properly. Don't skimp on that.
Also it gets weaker if you don't clean it regularly. So it is both a hygiene and effect thing. Also when the battery is running low, it is making weaker water. So it might be a good idea to not let it run down completely and that also saves a bit on the battery cycles just like in your phone. You can see on the bubbles intensity when it start to get weaker. And also the puff noise when you open the bottle.
Try it out don't expect to much and enjoy a bit of extra potential for not a big investment of money, time or energy. For me it is worth it.
I am always looking to optimize every possible part of my nutrition and every possible part of me.
And this is a small part of my optimization of the water I consume.
There is levels to this and using this is one of them, you can chose to add for your health and potential.
How much are you selling them for?
@@daviddavies2467 Nothing. I am just a please user.
I offer my experience for free and I have zero finacial gain from doing so.
Do you have anything useful to add to our quest to optimize our health David? Or is being a sceptic with no experience the best you can offer?
@@daviddavies2467 If you want to try they can be bought all over the Web. I am not selling anything.
@@daviddavies2467 I am not selling anything. But I gave a bottle to my parents.
Thanks
This fella deserves WAAAAAY more likes, simply for all the work he did on the video. Well done, informative and funny at the same time.
I have suffered from fatigue illness for more than 7 years and I consume a hundred types of vitamins and minerals but I still don't feel any reduction in fatigue, especially after working hours. But since I consumed hydrogen water from the very first time, I never experienced any of it ever again. I guess that hydrogen content probably helps me to absorb all my vitamins very well. Its been 6 months now and I still drink it as my normal water.
You could be insulin resistant, not vitamin deficient
Me too. I feel WAY better on it.
I have been drinking it for years.
@@cajampa do an experiment: replace hydrogen water with ordinary water and you will see, that you feel better because you drink more water
go carnivore
@@justas5183 Already did many times. And I have very much confirmed it works for what I use it for. So now you do the same.
Instead of just being a skeptic discounting our experiences.
Try it out for yourself.
And come back here and tell us you feel no benefit and we are all full of s. Or you found another level of health like we did.
II did this deep dive and here is the most valuable points!:
Only buy the premium brand bottle, the cheaper bottles actually make chlorine also which is terrible!
This guy didn’t use the 2nd button press which mine is 5 min or 10min and I always use the 10 min timer!
The other key part is you must chug the bottle soon as it’s ready and opened or the hydro is gone and it’s a waste!
My bottle I have to drink a min of 6 bottles per day or there is no benefit and optimally you need to drink 11 of them per day to see any change which is crazy and not worth it!
Just drink a 9.5+ true PH water that comes from a machine on the spot like Whole Foods has. It’s $3 per gallon but it’s a true rating and the best to drink.
Hope this helps! I spent 4.5 months testing all of these!!!
Water with higher (or lower levels) of Ph are instantly neutralized in your system, it does nothing. Human body has a Ph of 7.35-7.45…variations outside of that range, even just slightly have series consequences.
But he tested the water with the strips and no signs of chlorine showed up?
where is it getting the chorine from also it would react almost instantly with the hydronium ions in the water making hydrogen chloride and making the water more basic (which is observed to be fair)
ive heard the vast majority of the membranes are from dupont which produces many products with chlorine so traces might also be found in these products
This video was very helpful in helping understand what all the hype is about. I’m glad you’re going to continue investigating, testing and documenting your findings because IMHO one week is definitely not long enough to determine if the water infusion is beneficial or not. I, for one, would be more curious to see if you notice any difference over a 90-day period. I just subbed, so I’ll be looking for an update. Thanks for your time, energy and efforts to give us a genuinely honest review.
Since you probably still have the testing equipment, how bout testing one or more of the cheap systems after 3 consecutive runs to see if the cheap one can produce as much hydrogen as the expensive one just by running it more
The same company in China made them both so.. probably.
He just proved the expensive one has the exact same as the cheapest. Did you not watch till the end. The expensive only tested higher because its hydrogenising if thats a word. But yeah its only doing half the amount of water so its gonna read a higher parts per million. Id go for the cheap one. At least its made of glass and uses less electric also. All the expensive one is, is a fancier design.
An apple off a tree in someone’s backyard begins to turn brown before many people can finish it. Those apples are not the same.
You are right
Those are Genetically Modified
Science experiment foods
The one he used was obviously a genetically modified apple. They're modified specifically so they do not brown. 😂Organic apples should brown rapidly. That alone makes the test he did moot, unfortunately. He needs to do it again with an organic apple. I'd be curious about the actual results if it was done right. Though I would think that just being submerged in any water immediately would slow browning considerably. 😅
@@talysharawlins94 ye man i was suprised with that apple not going yellow, i have garden with apples and i have never seen that shit, in 10-15mins it goes yellow, depends how sweet it is or acidic
Organic apples in Canada don't turn brown either. I don't trust them
How did i not think of that apples and other commons foods in the store are modified food
can’t wait for you to try the ATG knees over toes protocol for a month. you’ll be dunking! i bet he’d do a collaboration with you. He has changed the future of sports medicine
Knees over toes guy is based 🔥
Excellent video! Thorough. I just wish you would have tested the other bottles half full to see if it rendered higher readings etc. as you mentioned. Perhaps you could do a follow-up video! Thank You for all the effort you put into making this video.
The Alex Tarnava interview with Dr. Gundry they say hydrogen water has a hormetic effect and you should only consume 1-3 servings per day. And Alex says to chug it quickly. I don't know if any of that is true.
GenX here. I don't drink water unless it is from a hose. Or if I heat the water and filter it through fresh coffee grounds. ☕️
Your mom's lover here...
You should see what your mom does when she comes over. 😂 oy yey
Hahahahahahaha
@@voice2skull.hahahahahaha
@@voice2skull.she stops at my house first so you get sloppy seconds
GenX as well and I swear by hydrogen water! I still drink out the hose and filter my tap water through coffee grounds, but adding this on the side has been a life changer for autoimmune disease!
Also, I don't know your mom. 😅
I have the echo Go bottle and I can guarantee it works for me at least. After Covid I lost about 70-80% of my smell now after using it for 3 days my smell returned fully. Another interesting thing that happened when I first started drinking the water was my body kept craving more of the water so I ended up drinking around 3x the amount of water than I normally drink in a day.
I wish in the tests he clicked the button twice to do a 10min cycle because it gives out way more ppm than just a simple one click.
That apple was insane!! I haven't made an apple pie for about 4 years, but when I did, i had to hurry to get the apples sliced up because they started to turn brown so fast! Even when first slicing them into a bowl of water with lemon juice added to slow the browning effect. ♡
I think that Apple might have had “Apeel” added to it to prevent aging. It’s added to even organic produce
Some one mentioned odorless farts! Well I can agree on this one thing 😊I think we need some more time to continue using it till we get with final outputs. Until then, I will keep using it and update my journey again soon (June 6, 2024).
12:55 Love the web-design on that page, couldn't even be bothered to align the text inside the green box, also random margins. And a big "THANK!" when you buy.
That's how you know it's legit.
A problem I already see with his experiment is that many of those bottles that don’t produce hydrogen correctly, produce chlorine which is bad for you! I recommend the LevelUP brand I bought the stainless steel one and it does not produce chlorine and smells/tastes fine. I also bought the purify one that swirls like a tornado. It does remove chlorine too, but it it does not seal the water so I fear the hydrogen leaks out too quickly for it to be of as much use… so I recommend the levelup one more. It still costs around $100. Most cheaper ones produce chlorine though so be careful.
I've noticed some bottles show, say a 4 min PPM level and 8 min level, like they run the cycle twice to get more H. The PH level was interesting as that's seems to be a claim. Awesome video.
Only 4 minutes in and first thing I noticed, is you have to use distilled water, otherwise you'll also produce chlorine gas, due to dissolved chloride ions.
Interesting! Thanks
Yummy chlorine gas! i love drinking my water with chlorine gas
This needs to be pinned
or well water.. or tap water that pored day before. It doesn't have to be distilled
@@lamebubblesflysohigh no it has to be distilled. leaving tap water on the side isn't going to magically remove sodium chloride and other contaminants from the water.
I wasn't talking about chlorine gas which is sometimes used to decontaminate water but its very rare practice now.
It's the chloride ions, a chlorine atom bound to some light metal like sodium, calcium, magnesium.
this is why distilled water is also sometime referred to as deionised water
so the bottles take the hydrogen out of water...and then put it back in? Wouldn't that mean you just end up where you started, with the same amount of hydrogen?
Yes but it’s in the form of HOH instead of H2O keeping the same amount of hydrogen but in its pure form with leftover oxygen as well, still watching the video so idk if benefits are real
@@guuumzn5685 HOH and H2O are the same thing, 2 hydrogen, 1 oxygen
@@FoMobileGaming I guess it's supposed to be H2O with H2 gas and O2 gas.
2 H2O -> 2 H2 + O2
@@winstonsearchill3457 The bottles claim to infuse water with more hydrogen. If the bottles were truly infusing the water with more hydrogen, it would have to add extra hydrogen to it from somewhere. The bottles are just removing hydrogen and then adding it back in and you still end up with H2O or HOH (they're identical). Adding extra hydrogen would make H2O +H2 which is what hydrogen water is supposed to be.
So there is a lot of misunderstanding with the function. The H2O breaks down to molecular hydrogen which goes back and the oxygen which is filtered out. The H2 bubbles are then in a sense trapped within the water. So while the amount of hydrogen in a sense is not really increased, because it is now in a molecular gas form, it can be differently utilized.
I use it and ive noticed a change, its not like a super charge. You also need to drink enough of it. Your diet matters as well. Regardless like it or hate it some folks are seeing results
I’m with you.
You should go down the rabbit whole of electrolysis and silver ions cause this is so closely related. Before antibiotics people used Silver solution to heal everything, if the metal on the bottom is using silver plated metal for electrolysis. You might be getting health benefits from the silver in the water and not from the HHO.
colloidal silver
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When I saw Gary Douchewagon drinking hydrogen water, I thought it was a joke and now I still do.
Some dickheads eat pizza, but pizza is still good.
You mean he is s scammer ??
@@buzahraful I've noticed the fitness community doesn't really care for him he's more of a celebrity trainer
@@dontgetrocked Cite examples? If guys like Rogan and Dana White who are into fitness (especially Rogan) and can afford anything are behind Brekka, I'll follow.
@@Samsonight33 there's a bunch of one is Renaissance periodizations video. Dana White isn't the fitness now but he wasn't always he's just a regular guy.
I’d be curious about blood tests? Very in depth review. Love your content
There is a study with blood tests. If you google it, I didn't save the link, sorry. From that study, it concluded no changes in people under 40, but over 40 they found differences.
I have videos of blood tests if you want to see them
@@jacquinightscales5931 I'd love to see them
Dude I thought I was crazy but like every plastic bottle, anything made plastic-ish that rubber smell is everywhere nowadays. Idk if the plastic has gotten cheaper or thinner, weaker over the years but something is definitely different, the off-gassing just does not go away. This is from memory foam mattresses, to water bottles (some directly tell you if they're recycled or thin to reduce plastic which they smell the worst, they're just easier to be sun damaged I guess). I've gone through so many mattresses because the memory foam ones are the best and traditional spring ones just dent overtime. but foam stinks and never goes away :( my lungs and throat feel coated when I wake up and the smell makes it hard for me to sleep. sorry for the long rant but man if there's one mattress that I finally set on is the Birch Mattress. This thing has not failed me after 2 years of owning it. I used a thin topper for a bit but got rid of that and realized I didnt need it anymore, because the topper smelled jusssst a bit and this is just decent quality I finally invested in something somewhat pricey. But now my heads clear, no weird coating feeling. all I smell is fresh clean air and it's spring lol doesn't even feel like one. seriously guys invest in high quality things that are essential to you EVERYDAY!
When the membrane dry out. It does not get damaged. It just takes a bunch of cycles before it gets back to be able to produce the full strength.
You're young and will have less inflammation in your body so you probably dont notice the benefits as much as older people who have more oxidative damage built up over time in our bodies.
I read a study that said hydrogen water decreased oxidative stress related cognitive decline in stressed out mice, but it didnt increase cognitive ability at all in healthy mice.
The health benefits are in the decrease of oxidative stress. Hydrogen water is a potent antioxidant.
But you're young, and look super healthy already. You probably wont notice the difference as much as a person who has loads of inflammation and oxidation damage.
Thanks for the video it was worth watching.
why didnt bro try to prss the button twice if it increased the hydrogen
It has a pressure release valve, so yes it could get a bit higher but when it goes to high the valve release excess pressure to not damage the membranes. There is some versions of the bottles that has different programs like a 2 min program or a 5 min program with different presses on the button. I don't know if the one he has have that. So yes he could run it several times and it would go a bit higher but not double. So it is better to just drink it and do another because the amount is so small anyway.
Try deuterium depleted water next!
Good job man!! Love all the testing!
I can confirm it works for arthritis victims. My mum has arthritis throughout her body. She tried this, she didn't think it was working until she stopped. Pain and lack of mobility started to come back, so she got back on it, taking it once a day. She has been using it for about two years now. At the start she could only stand for 2-3 minutes and was in alot of pain. Today she can stand long enough to cook her own meals with manageable levels of pain. Her fingers have also started to straighten out closer to normal. I used it myself for back pain and have now stopped using it after being on it constantly once a day for two years. I can say I no longer have the back issues I had once had that doctors claimed were perminant and were only going to worsen.
All I can say is its a slow process but it works. Oh! Also gave it to my ex-girlfriend who had a lazy eye...She no longer has a lazy eye. Admittedly I was also extremely sceptical but it works. Not for everything but it will for some. I sure as heck don't feel any difference energy, mentally, or fitness wise.
have you heard of a placebo effect?
@@danlaurent5522 yes, but this isn't it.
Which brand did your mum use please ?
My ex was lazy to.
And i must say that these bottles work for sure.
After i throwed a bottle at her she was not lazy anymore.
Worked very fast 🤣😜
@@1-MC it doesnt work lol
fun fact: add salt to the bottle and turn on the cycle, to make sodium hypochlorite ("bleach"). or if you modify it so it can be on for longer. you can make sodium chlorate. a very strong oxidizer.
When using the process of electrolysis it's common to use either an LED light or laser so that you can see if there are any foreign particles floating around the idea is that they would be reflected I used the exact same process when I harvest hydrogen for fuel And when I make colloidal silver
Liked, subscribed, and commiented. You are thorough and leave no stones unturned - great job 👌
Maybe your apples were irradiated. Apples should start browning within minutes. Those are some crazy apples.
I have a couple apples i bought from aldi a solid 3-4 months ago in my fridge and they still look completely perfect and brand new. Idk what kind of chemicals and shit they are using now days but definitely doesn't feel normal.
@@tongbokes5820 usually apples can last in a cold room during the winter. Usually by the end of winter, they can be a bit wrinkly so they would use in pies or applesauce. So, storing in a temperature controlled refrigerator would be longer. However, once it bruises, it should go fast. You remember the old saying ‘one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch’.
If an apple is cut, and not dipped in lemon water, and stays fresh looking without browning, well, I would definitely not be eating that!
Did you read the directions on the boxes?
You might be too young to experience the benefits of extra H2. I was EXTREMELY skeptical, even made fun of a friend who adamantly professed the benefits... The notable effects are my joints feel great (and yes, I already drank over 8 glasses of H2O per day, there's no way I was dehydrated), and my workout capacity went up approximately %10. Nothing else has changed in my diet or supplement regimen. This may be due to placebo, but honestly who cares. It allows me to workout harder and feel better doing so. I'll gladly pay $$ for that...
Which system
Agreed. I have the same experience.
Nothing magic, just a bit of a health boost and extra potential that I gladly take and I will use it forever. I can work out harder, faster and recovery and I have less pains at weak spots. Seemingly less inflammation overall.
But overall for something that is so easy to do it is a good investment to level up I think.
But the by far strongest effect i have found is when I run. If I drink a bunch of it just before I run a long hard run. Or not using it. The difference is very very noticeable on how much less fatigue I feel. It goes so much smoother and faster when I drink a bunch of it right before. And faster recovery after also, of course if I drink it when I get back. It is just a good overall tonic when you push yourself hard. And I think the closer you are to your limit the more you get out of it.
Meaning kind of your point. He might be to young and healthy to really feel the difference.
But I think if he is a runner and he test running on it he will feel the difference for sure.
My brother bought me one as a Christmas/birthday present (happens a lot with my January birthday). He & his wife had been using it for awhile. Our family have SO many health conditions that my sister literally ended up as a case study at the Mayo Clinic. I'm almost 57 and have been on disability for decades. He said his primary improvements were help with his spider veins (which I am hoping for) and fewer headaches. I know, for me, circulation has been a BIG issue. In fact, in my mother's family, arterial sclerosis is so prominent, it killed my uncle at age 49, and if she hadn't had 5 stents, she wouldn't have lived to be 93. My brother bought the cheapest one and I am only on bottle #2. One thing I have found AMAZING so far is I have what is called an "under developed diaphragm", which may not sound like much, but hiccups are torture and burping can sometimes be impossible. I have been comfortably burping since I drank it... Which feels like a miracle for me. But, for some reason, I also feel very tired, which I was hoping for the opposite 😒 My best guess... I also have asthma and allergies and, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but it seems like my breathing could be easier, so my cleaning plans may be postponed until tomorrow 😴 I also don't want to get too optimistic, but y pain issues might be better, but I haven't tried getting up off of the couch yet 😝
You only need one or two bottles per day depending on your weight. And you gulp it down all at once.
What if you take the same exact amount of water for each test, and run it for the exact same amount of time (5 min per container) then test?
Additionally, I'd be curious to see the apple/pear test with the EchoGo
Yeah, because of hydrogen's very low vapor pressure, it does not stay infused in water very long. If one wants a better chance at testing its antioxidant activity with an apple, then one might try testing with glass jar and metal lid. Even then hydrogen is so small it will escape over time.
So...what if you run the larger hydrogen bottles for a double cycle? And, the film left behind is likely magnesium. How much are the tablets, anyway?
Cymbiotika sells some
If you're going to do heavy metal tests I suggest starting with Megadeth, And then lamb of God
Anthrax & Slayer >>>
wtf are those us apples made of if after 3h they;'re not yellow/brownish
Treated with preservatives.
Frfr
BIll Gate's Appeal - It ruins the pectin.
Maybe the EcoGO has double the hydrogen count because it runs almost twice as long? Run the cheaper ones twice before drinking?
You would need to eliminate the placebo effect by not knowing what you are drinking, so you need somebody else to make your water.
Thats the thing with all these "new"/organic age health foods, its just a "idea" that they are trying to get rich off of, without any actual science backing it.. Its called "pseudo" science, junk, fake. They are our todays snakes oils, buzzwords sold differently with new word fancy packaging for "RICH" people/hollywood, etc, til they find their rube to con, and it hits off.
Our family has experienced many benefits. We feel better energy throughout our day without a midday lull. I was having visible swelling in my finger bones before drinking hydrogen water and that has completely resolved. My husband has always needed lotion in winter for dry skin and now is not needing that. He also has had reflux regularly and hasn't mentioned that anymore. Very worthwhile for such an easy change. We use the Piurify pitcher as we have a large family (us and seven children) for the ease, options (low or high hydrogen, magnetic and self cleaning) amount of tested hydrogen (yes, we checked and compared as well) and sheer amount of water made. Thanks for your research.
Good job bro,too meny scam adverts on youtube,so well done,
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That’s funny you posted this. I was ACTUALLY thinking about investing in one of these. Thanks for this 🙏🏼
I have a generator because in the long run, the expense is lower than continuously purchasing tablets, but the tablets definitely increase the concentration by about 4-5x. The tablets are excellent. Just drink it quickly if you're looking into it and really wanting the benefits.
@@richardrhcp What kind of generator do you use? I have been used and the bottles from years now. To great effect. Please give me some tips on getting an generator instead.
You can check if the residue is Magnesium by letting it dry and putting a match to it, i will be flamable if it is Magnesium
Some Hydrogen water bottles come with a tube for inhaling Hydrogen as well. Did you try any?
Die Produktion ist viel zu gering!
Es müssten mindestens 100ml sein, um eine Wirkung zu erreichen.
thank you. i am now concerned about these bottles, my machine uses double distilled water to produce the h2 gass and o2 gass from the pure water. i am concerned about this bottles which are claiming they split the h2 and o from the filter. i use a medical grade machine because of health related issue 2 years now..
this was a really valuable video.
Which machine do you use please?
When comparing the period for each hydrogen bottle, you show that echo+ has twice as long in water treatment. What happens if you extend the other to 6 minutes will there be more hydrogen?
You did a wonderful job at this man! for spending so much to give us this information.
The best form of water to drink and something I am going to suggest an experiment on next is just drinking distilled/reverse osmosis water. It's the purest form of water to drink and you remove all added nonsense to it. You have complete control over your water supply. You can get your own minerals through other means, such as magnesium lotion, potassium through bananas or potassium chloride, etc... Driking distilled water changed the trajectory of my life. I had stage three kidney disease at one point and switched to distilled water and the cysts on my kidneys went away and I haven't had any kidney issues since the firm switch over. Somehow, this is a controversial take nowadays to drink water that is PURE, but it has done nothing but help me.
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yeah some peopel try to say it removes vitimins and minerals from our body i love distilled water sometimes i use my ozone machien and ozone the water same os hydrogen have no idea if it helps
What kidney disease did you had?
I purchased a hydrogen water bottle off of Amazon for around $45.00 four days ago. You have to run it 3xs (3 mins each) to get the 3000ppm. it does seem to be infusing the water with little micro bubbles and they remain in there when you shake the water around. I don’t know if I really feel any change from drinking the water? As someone who suffers from anxiety, I do feel more calm and my nerves seem to be a bit better…but that could be from more water consumption. I do know for sure that when I use standard tap water in the bottle it does taste lot smoother and crisp very much like a bottled water, and the smell of the water is overall different as well!
It is doing something positive in that regard, but are we really having any positive effects from consuming the water? It’s yet to be seen but regardless, it’s making my water at least taste better.
Isn't all water already 66 percent hydrogen?
These devices claim to "break" some of 66% ( by number ) hydrogen bound in water into gaseous hydrogen which is in very small amounts and will not stay long in water...
Wouldn't you need to test each one immediately after pouring. Becauze it starts to lose efficacy ? This was a poor way to test .
If you are gonna do this for some months you prob would be better finding another way to do it that can produce more at a time, maybe using one of the others that holds more volume if it fits? Idk. Also was really expecting for you to test the hydrogen by setting it on fire hahah. great video!
Fruit doesn’t go brown any more because it’s all modified. I remember in the old days, apples would start going brown in a couple of minutes. So you need genuinely organic apples….if you can find any. The fruit test are invalid. Test with the right fruit and may get a useful result from the machines.
"Why are you leaking?" 😂😂😂😂
Would you be willing to do a test? My mom picked up one of those "cheapest" models, and I wonder whether charging the water multiple times in a row will reach comparable numbers to the EchoGo+.
If I see somebody promoting a product with a fake Joe Rogan podcast background...I know is a scam
??? Gary was on Joe Rogan. His wasn’t fake or AI generated lol.
Why'd you have so many ads on the video man 😐
H3o. But unfortunately it doesn't completely infuse in the water. I thought with as much research as you did you would know by now that the moment the water is exposed to the air, that exposure causes another chemical reaction. It causes the extra hydrogen molecule to evaporate into the air. Causing the H3o molecule to turn back into H2o. The molecule is not stable. So yes. It's a gimmick. Unfortunately. In theory the science makes sense. If the molecule were to remain stable throughout the digestion process. However, at best, according to some "experts" you have only seconds to guzzle down the water before that extra hydrogen molecule escapes back into the atmosphere. There is another way to achieve this however. But it's not through digestion. If you want tried and true results, get yourself something called ozone therapy. It works! Within minutes you actually feel different. All the benefits. However, you can't really be posting it too much because it's one of this countries' little secrets. The FDA and pharmaceutical industry will be all over you if you step on their toes. It's already happened to doctors. They start talking about it, soon there after their practice is shut down.
@sonsoflightinc, I AGREE 👍👍
You think his tester was inaccurate when it showed levels of hydrogen in the water? I am not claiming that the ppm reading is accurate, but obviously the bottles did something…
try the deuterium depleted water then sonically treat that water in a water proofed speaker fed with various ac frequencies to alter the waters crystalline structure
Hydrogen water must be drunk immediately. Otherwise it breaks down.
I recently bought a cheap knockoff that should have about 300 ppb.
That's interesting because when I ran a pH test (several times) it was exactly the same after running the generator for a few minutes which made sense to me because the internet says hydrogen gas is a neutral gas that does not affect the pH of water
All this is is a bunch of dehydrated hydro homies finally getting their daily intake of water & feeling more clarity from it.
There can be a benefit from purifying your water & removing excess heavy metals + other random goodies found.
But we also need metal to function. So, its a toss up.
Bro, that's actually a good theory!
You're completely correct. Some metals are absolutely essential for life. Iron and magnesium are super important. And we would probably die without them in our bloodstream
i want to know what happens if you just press the button twice in a row? it doubles?
Drinking water from a plastic bottle is a fail regardless of if it is a normal or hydrogenated water ;-)
Some are made with BPA free plastic according to some companies and most higher end bottles use plastic instead of glass because it allows the psi to be at a greater level allowing it to produce more hydrogen without breaking the bottle with its pressure. I guess some even show proof of them being free from PFAS (forever lasting chemicals), metals, and BPA. Doing so much research on this right now. Finally concluded on buying an H2 Nano from hydrogen4health even though they use a DuPont membrane which DuPont has been known for using PFAS. They did provide me with a pdf that shows their water not having any PFAS and have an H2 Analytics certification. Not sure if the DuPont membrane itself has no PFAS though. Oh well I’m tired of doing research, just gonna buy it already.
@@perez104 Are you saying that the dupont versions of the membranes can contain PFAS? Or are we talking about that dupont us making PFAS and they are evil and we should not buy dupont if we can find alternatives?
I ask because I have been using these things from years. With very good effects. I like it I will use it forever for sure. It is a good health boost. But I have never heard about this PFAS issue before. But it was a few years since I bought my last bottle and all the hoopla about PFAS in the water and food sources got in the news after that. So if you could please clarify for me what you mean, thanks.
@@cajampa That’s what I’m not certain on. Hydrogen4health showed a pdf of tests done on their bottle that detect PFAS but I’m not sure if the tests were done on the water or on the membrane. Regarding DuPont, I’m not sure if their products still contain PFAS. All I know is in the past they were sued for having PFAS in most of their products.
@@perez104 Hmm, if they used RO or distilled it could still contain PFAS if their water source contains it. Because nether of those way of making 0 TDS water removes 100% of PFAS. But it is still much better than not doing it though.
But you said most of their products, are you actually for sure talking about these membranes? Or are we talking general dupont products. I mean they made Teflon. They made the whole type of chemicals they invented it as far as understand. But they are a massive Chem company. They make countless other products that had nothing to do with PFAS.
So just to be sure. Are you talking about the membranes in the past being directly connected to law suites about that the membranes containing PFAS? Or are we talking about dupont being sued for all the PFAS they put out all over. That is not directly connected to these membrane.
Anyway. Even if there was a trace amount. It is a stable molecule. And if we drink hydrogen water that is based on RO or distilled water. We get a lot less than if we drank tap or regular bottle water. So at least there is that. I have been using it for years add my health have been going better and better. So I not really worried. But it is a bit concerning at least.
I don't think it's a concern really. I believe many just don't want to support Dupont anymore however they have lots of products that don't contain PFAs. I suspect this is one of them.
Chester heads up after three uses the tip of the electrolysis machine builds up a layer where it stops working and you lose all benefit you should look at the one Gary brecka uses they thought about that before they built it much love love your enthusiasm
The H2 Life H water bottle uses a platinum-coated electrode plate and exchange membrane to prevent leaching of heavy metals.
Are these bottles made of plastic or glass?
Hydrogen infused water supposed to give you a load of antioxidant (the hydrogen itself), therefore it should reduce the oxidation stress to some degree. If it really works, it would be noticable in the very long run - like years or decades - your body would just age slower.
There was a lot of hype on this in Japan few years ago. SPA salons even offered a bath in hydrogen infused water. Supposedly it helps to keep a skin look younger for longer.
It is hard to tell if there is a scientific base of evidence to support that claims. I was looking for that and didn't find anything meaningful beside marketing materials.
What is it emulating from nature that we are not getting that we need? If it isn't something natural then we probably don't need it. What is the difference between this and structured water?
Some of my notes:
Orderless farts
Neutralizes bad breath
Makes my coffee taste better
Interesting, my wife mentioned my farts don’t smell anymore…she claimed it was from a probiotic that she always tells me to take….however, I never take them.
Could the echo+ be responsible for my lack of stench?
I have a guys weekend coming up, I gotta make sure not to drink from the echo then.
What about breathing hydrogen mixed with air with a rebreather, apparently it heals scars
Try colloidal silver water
I used to watch Lucas’ videos like 5 years ago because they were funny. Rediscovered them like 3 months ago and always excited for an upload because he’s giving me information to be a better person. Love the videos dude!
Definitely the size and time made the difference.
And most of these pages that I’ve seen for the products, they only say that you should drink 2 to 3 bottles a day for the maximum Outcome
Cliff Notes: the cheap bottles make chlorine so never buy one.
Buy the premium known brands and one with a 10min timer and chug it soon as it’s ready or it meant nothing!
Would love to see a review of the Lumiq Ultra generator with the best specs I've seen. 11.5 oz, BPA Tritan, up to 8,000 PPB. Seems to be top line if it does what it says.
This is not a hydrogen water meter either :) It’s an ORP tester
ORP tester is where he is measuring pH
I bought Evolv H2GO and Echo Go+ those 2 are the only models that are certified by IHSA Standards
Evolv H2GO creates 5PPM and Echo Go+ 4.5 PPM of hydrogen
Great video! 💯
It happens that after drinking 5 days of hydrogenated water, my sore skin condition on my forearm tat never cure for years become healed. And after 1 month, triglyceride dropped from 534 to 436 unit level.
Which brand did you buy please?
@acontan198. Which bottle do you use?
It's a little late to say this. But I just saw this, and an immediate concern that I wanted to emphasize to you is that if your using it, you absolutely must not have salt in the container during the electrolysis process, it WILL produce bleach if you do. probably a small amount for the short period of time, but still not something I would play around with.
2H2O -》2H2 + O2 + 2NaCl(salt) -》2H2 + 2NaClO (or more commonly known as bleach).
Next one you should do is Shillijit.
I swear that stuff works.
i ate this stuff for awhile plus black water but hell anything could be in it mike admas at natural news said also high high metals in it
I thought the ozone only lasted 2-3 minutes in the water... also helps if the water is cold from what I read.
This is the video i was looking for, thanks to you i dont have to go down the same rabbit hole 😅 since you have the hydrogen meter, another test that would interest me is, to see how fast the hydrogen dissipates from the water. Simply hold in the meter for some time and watch the number, then you cam calculate the speed of dissipation, so you know ho long it actually stays infused with hydrogen 😊