Winchester 45 review Big Dan's Airguns
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we take a look at a budget springer from Winchester, the model 45! But is it any good? Well let's take a look and find out!
A massive thank you to Marc from Norfolk Airguns for the targets.
Dan !! Please up the content output. your channel is brilliant and you have the some of the most honest reviews and shooting camera angle. More reviews please. Take care mate
Spot on
Hi Shakes! Thanks ever so much for the kind comment it really means a lot. I'll see what I can do.
How nice it is to see honest reviews of not only top end fashionable guns but more budget style guns too where someone isnt afraid to point out faults or negative issues as well as singing praises. Long may it continue.
I think it shoots good for a budget gun. It looks good but I don't like plastic either. Good review Dan.
Still playing catch up , that's a nice pretty rifle with an iconic name ,personally I think I'll stick with the Remington Express & My old Webley's . Thanks Dan catch You next time . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
Dan, I do love your reviews. You seem to go into much greater depth than most reviewers. I've long ago decided that there are 2 things I don't want in my rifles and scopes. The first is batteries, the second, PLASTIC! Keep up the great reviews!
Hi Dan.
I bought the 55 (.22) version of this gun in 2019. Worst gun I've ever owned.
I bought it in the belief that it was made by the famous Winchester Company....its not!!!
It is made by Gamo!
The investment company that owns Gamo etc also own a company called Winchester Ammunition which allows them to use the Winchester name but it has no relation to the real gun company.
My gun was less than 10 ft/lbs, even after I'd taken it to the Welsh Willy guy for tuning (no fault of his).
The accuracy was always poor.
After a few months I sold it.
I paid almost £250 for it and to be honest I've had better guns for under £100.
Good review though. 👍👍
Hi Jeremy!
Yep it's even advertised on Gamo's own catalogue. To be fair this one shoots well and has plenty of power as you can see. Yours may have been a Friday night job possibly or I've just got really lucky with a good one.
To be fair... I agree that something like an XS19 would put up a helluva fight against the model 45.
Thanks Jeremy!
Thats why it looks its got the old BSA butt pad and sights
Been looking at the 45rs recently, basically the same but with the factory silencer, jury is still out, your are correct with the gamo link, the Winchester range is featured is there current catalogue. Thanks for taking the time to share the video. 👍👍👍
You're welcome Peter.
To be fair they do shoot well but the plastic does put me off I won't lie. The length of pull and grip is also awkward. Definitely shoulder one first if you can Peter.
I like the way it looks, hate the plastic breach. I didn’t have any thoughts about the welded breach on my BSA Meteor Super until you said something about welded breaches. I was already in love with it and now see no issues with it. The safety’s are basically the same which I like . Another great review. Thanks
You're welcome Ray. It's a shame as it's genuinely a straight shooter but that plastic ruins it. Hopefully if we make enough of a stink we can stop them from making them this way.
Thanks Dan for another down to earth honest review, think thats why so many like and respect you i no i do for 1 , always honest mate, Cheers 👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Casper it means a lot. Honesty is the best policy mate.. even if it upsets people at times. I've even had angry Emails haha.
@@bigdansairguns83 Well your not going to please every one no matter how much ya try, just keep doing what you do mate, and sod the lets a less informed, thats not what i really want to say but best leave it there lol Cheers
Why use a plastic breach block, no thanks, I’m in total agreement with you on that one Dan 😎
It's totally unnecessary Lee in my opinion.
Thank you for this review, you answered the most important question I had. I was interested in the 55rs version of this rifle, it seemed great value and the reviews were good, but I couldn’t quite see what the breech was made from. It looked like plastic, of all things…and now you’ve confirmed it. Looks like I may be coughing up for a HW 95 after all.
Yep sadly for whatever reason it's plastic, to be fair you don't need to spend Weihrauch money to get a great springer. Take a look at the Cometa range, every bit as accurate if not moreso than a HW and usually a fair chunk cheaper. Take a look at my 100 yard challenge video and see what a standard Fusion can do. 😉
@@bigdansairguns83 Will do, thanks for the advice👍
Always great to seea new video alert from you .
Best reviews on the net, well done and thanks.
Thanks Stigg it means a lot!
Hi Dan great review as always, thanks for testing the pellets, I do appreciate it
You're welcome Marc and many thanks for the targets they're superb. We'll be using these from now on for sure.
Nice looking Rifle for a budget Airgun👍
First thing I did was look for the safety placement on the gun. Not in the trigger guard, not in the rear, of the receiver or behind it. I knew it had to be on the side like a BSA. Very interesting until the plastic breech. Gamo just had to throw their bit in there. Winchester is owned by Daisy and Daisy by Gamo who also owns BSA. So now we see a cross between BSA, Gamo and Winchester. To bad they didn't use a steel breech and safety. Now that Daisy owns Crosman I be interesting to see which way Crosman, Benjamin and Remington spring guns and pumpers go.
Hi Charles BSA and Gamo are now owned by a Private American Equity Group called B.R.S Bruckmann, Rosser, Sherill & Co all the best mate. 👍👍👍
Hi Charles!
It spoils it doesn't it? Gamo if you're reading this no more plastic breeches for the love of god!
@@peterhennessy9899 Spot on, hopefully they can shake things up a bit but I doubt they'll have that much input on the actual manufacturing.
@@bigdansairguns83 Yes Dan hopefully been the operative word. Something tells me that they're in it for the money. 👍👍👍👍
@@bigdansairguns83 It sure does. I have a Gamo Swarm Magnum with the plastic breech. So far it's ok, but just don't seem right to have a synthetic material on on of the most important parts of a break barrel.
Talking about plastic any progress on the Cometa Fusion triggers? this looks a nice gun actually but as you say let down by plastics. I love the long barrel, especially with open sights, glad to see this as some rifles should be labelled pistols, what a shame about the plastic breech, if not for this I'd buy one.
Hi David!
Early next month you'll see some exciting things regarding Cometa.. keep an eye on our website at bigdansairguns.co.uk
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As for the Winchester it's a somewhat spoiled opportunity, a sweet little action as you've mentioned somewhat ruined by the breech.. and the odd dimensions depending on how you're built.
Good to see you back Mate 2 at once but Still good to see you
Thanks Yeti!
One of these sold at a Norfolk auction for £75 plus commission last week. I dropped out at sixty quid it was the stock that interested me. Sights are very sixties BSA updated with fiber optics, so is the trigger guard and safety. So Glad my bid did not win now that plastic breech would have upset me to. A couple of packers and a thicker butt pad might help the pull length.but apart from the stock the gun close up looks cheap and nasty, so I was really surprised it shot so well with the JSB's with it's rather obvious BSA Gamo heritage you have to wonder who is producing this rifle maybe Gamo or Magtec in Brasil, there again it could be almost any company jobbing out to Winchester.
Nice classic looking rifle
Looks like it's action is based on the Gamo Lightning. Oh dear...
To be fair... it shot well. But the plastic was ridiculous.
Brilliant cricket bat 🏏
I wish you'd have measured the dB and fps. Some of us are backyard shooters and have neighbors to consider.
Quite a nice looking and performing gun, but there's no way I would ever buy a gun with a plastic breech. I wonder if the designers would be happy with plastic wheels on their cars, because that's about the same level of confidence it inspires. Surely they must have known we'd hate it? I think this model may be a 'tester', to see how far they can go with the plastic parts in the manufacture and have us accept it. It's the only way I can see this making sense!
The cheek piece is ambi as.....it doesn't have one. 😀. I'm not as subtle as you Dan and yes we're rather subtle about the recoil pad being too big. What you meant to say is some Chinese factory worker messed up the stock specs and cut it too short which would explain the recoil pad being too big. Like I said I'm not as subtle as you. Still it looks rather nice but rather small for the average adult male. It wouldn't suit me at all and looks miniscule with you holding it. A stock extender, not pretty but functional, could make all the difference. I had and still have on old SMK AR2079A Target .177 which too had a really silly short pull. I made a 25mm extender out of a block of aluminium and it made a world of difference. So much so I still do the odd HFT comp with doing pretty well much to the chagrin of the 'Ferrari' gun owners. I have never really understood why that upsets so many HFT comp shooters. I was once told it was embarrassing to sponsors. My gun my choice so in that regard .....tough.
The 1/2" unfortunately barrel thread isn't always best employed fitting a silencer. I've had a number of rifle that benefitted the fine tuning to accuracy by fitting a muzzle brake. I found them almost obligatory on CO2 rifles as the weather cooled down.
Hey Biffo!
I smiled reading about your experience with the SMK and the gun snobs keep it up, if they don't like it maybe they could buy one .. it's about time they had a good gun (oof could you imagine their faces if you said that).
It'd be a Spaniard not a Chinese factory worker but it does look odd doesn't it? It's one of those things that are only fractionally out but once you see it you can't un-see it.
I've always been a bit 50:50 on muzzle brakes but I will admit some of the rifles I've shot with them have been very accurate, mainly the Cometa Fusion and the Norica Storm.
Keep fighting the good fight with that AR2079A Biffo. Excellent shooting!
I know you’re a big guy Dan, but that rifle is definitely not full size. I would say it was for juniors. The fact it has a long barrel, just aids leverage for cocking. Something very necessary if a youngster wishes to use it.
Hi Steve.
It's a full size rifle despite the short length of pull. Gamo also advertise it as such. The length depending on the model is 44" to 46". In comparison an SMK XS38 underlever is 45".
In regards to cocking it's smooth but not as light as many junior rifles, the longer forestock is also not designed for junior shooters as can be seen by the checkering being quite far forward. To be fair it'd make a lot more sense if it were advertised as a teenagers rifle etc.
Sounds like a Winchester "Marmite 45" to me, it's definitely an oddball.
Hahaha well said Ben! By all means not a bad gun at all but just some odd design choices.
Gamo built. Never the less, great job!
Thanks mate.
If it shoots straight badge isn't an issue. The plastic is.
It's just a cheap BSA Meteor. Maybe inexpensive is a better description. Meteor has a metal breech and much nicer furniture.
I would like to have a go at the new Super Meteor..
I think it's the perfect little walk about rifle. Not heavy. Not bulky. Gas piston. The same open sights as the Winchester. Really nice wood.
butt pad spacer jobby shaped out of alluminium or plastic ?
totally agree with everything yo said, iv got one,its the most accurate rifle iv ever had its awsome, easyist gun ever to handle so light and sexy too. the gun doesnt fit me but is so awsome i make it fit""like a good women you work it in right. best fun ever super product.cheers. everything about this rifle is not for me" but had a go with a friends gun and iv been in love with it eversince. I CALL IT THE DEMON WINNY,
Hi Dan, great channel but...l have this Winchester it's dreadful wouldn't give it away as it would still disappoint next poor owner.
It looks like a bsa action but probably is and licensed with the winchester name
Spot on Ian. It's made by Gamo.
Interesting rifle this one 🤔
I think that's the perfect word to describe the Winchester. Interesting or odd/quirky.
Dan, let's face it you're a giant , so don't be surprised if the pull length is less than gargantuan, 😇
I would much prefer to see the front of the target, and not just holes appearing at the back.
Hi Spooner!
We put the camera to the rear so you can see the distances are honest.
@bigdansairguns83 I wouldn't expect anything except honest from you, never had any reason to doubt.
Perhaps similar to AAR on air, have an insert screen of target?
Aiwaa 😘💕👍👍
Downside to the gun is breach is made of polymer
The price of these guns they can darn well give me a steel trigger. I don't care for plastic.
Bland like a 70s BSA
Wow, what a nasty gun.