Okay so I messed something up. The Dark Age of Technology is evidently the golden age of technology, from 15 to 25k. They call it that because they're scared of technology now. 25-29k, when everything was ACTALLY bad, is called the Age of Strife. Thank you comments for being polite about that.
As a Warhammer fan (for science) you are contractually obligated to watch/read: - If the Emperor had a TTS device (all of it) [funny] - Squad Broken [wholesome] - To break a soldier of the Machine God [also wholesome] - the smut The cost of titans can be measured in cars BTW The Emperor "Big-E" "Emps" "Sassy toilet sitter" is more like 12-13 ft tall, not 8
My favorite thing about 40k lore is how much you can get out of it. One day you can be philosophically musing on the nature of evil, and the next day you can read about two Egyptian robot zombies with a 65 million year old grudge against each other using reality bending god technology to beat each other with their old man sticks.
The Infinite and The Divine is straight-up one of the best WH40k books I've read. It really puts the struggles of the Imperium in a different light as you see the millennia pass by from the eyes of a being that has lived for millions of years. For Trayzyn, the hold the Imperium has over a particular planet for a few millennia means nothing. To him, they come and go in the blink of an eye and they are barely worth the effort of exterminating as they will inevitably be gone in a few millennia more anyway.
Fun fact: it is cheaper to buy a brand new resin 3D printer, several bottles of resin, and a custom made 3D model of a warlord titan, than it is to buy a warlord titan from GW.
I love the over the top whackyness that extends to the players. On the tabletop with certain rule sets people have done things like called up other game shops across town to call in artillery strikes from other players because those artillery units had unlimited range making it perfectly legal and viable.
@@Drekromancer Or that time that was apparently a landmark strategy counter when some player infamous for keeping his whole army in reserve and deploying all his units at once positioned to counter what his opponent set up lost a match without being able to put anything on the board at all,because they couldn't be placed too close to enemy units so a guy covered all of those spaces on the board with scouts. So now there's a picture floating around with this stereotypical looking nerd poring over a rulebook with a referee in front of a board with little men around all the edges,and this other guy just beaming smugness.
UK and US shops once had an inter-continental ICBM war because the Deathstrike Nuclear Missile carrier used to have infinite range. So they both set up batteries on multiple tables and had a nuclear war over the phone.
A joke a buddy of mine made is that 40k may have saved my life. I got into it 2 years ago, and since then my life and choices have changed quite abit. Now I hang out with my 40k group atleast 1x a week (there's 12 of us) and spent all my money and time.enjoying my hobby. Before 40k I had no hobbies and just spent my time and money drinking and doing drugs and eating like shit. The plastic Crack consumed my income instead
So you're not eating like shit anymore? Do you have a family? Do you work out? Do you have a good job or your own company? Hobbies are good. In measure. Otherwise it become a waste of life.
That's great man. I suspect 40k has done that for quite a few people, I've heard some stories. I wouldn't personally say that it saved my life, but it certainly changed it and my outlook on certain aspects of life. 40k really is an amazing hobby and universe
"I do recommend getting into Warhammer, however that looks for you" That last part is so important for people to understand. I know painters who have never even played a game with their models. I know lore experts who are plastic-crack free. I know people who know Vermintide 2 in and out, but nothing of 40k. I think that's what makes it THE hobby
honestly, yeah. you can learn the lore through total war: warhammer and only the the digital games, you can know jackshit about the lore, fantasy or 40k, and only know vermintide knowing its some form of dark fantasy universe. thats how i got into the community, and will stay that way because i could never afford the models with how badly they consume paychecks, let alone my lack of painting skills.
@@Liberty_or_Ded yeah i guess i couldve phrased it better. i meant people knowing of one aspect of the franchise but nothing of the other side and still being Warhammer fans
My old roommate was obsessed with this hobby, there must have been a box a week of 40k that showed up on our porch. Thanks for going through the trouble of summarizing this behemoth.
20:00 the lore is *supposed to be funny.* exhibit A: warp travel is renowned in-universe to be extremely fuckery. we're talking "a day passed in the warp, but in realspace it's last week"-levels of fuckery. in one story an ork warboss took advantage of this when his space hulk somehow traveled a week back in time; he tracked down his past-self and killed him(self) just so he could have a spare of his favourite gun.
Calling 40k a wombat hole is more accurate than you think. Wombats dig their tunnels in such a way that they've been known to literally twerk predators to death against the tunnel ceiling.
@1simo93521 it's kinda funny how it was a most obvious reference to popular sci fi only to put up the walls to protect its obvious ripoff of every media
Warhammer was my first real introduction to classism as a kid. I thought all of us nerds were all in it together with our D&D books and imaginations of fantasy worlds. Turns out if you had rich parents you didn’t have to imagine it. You could own it in miniature. I always found it fascinating.
Any nerd Fandom I've encountered has an incredible variety in how much money you can put into it and still enjoy the game. I play dnd at 2 tables. At my main table, the DM has a grid map with dry erase markers on his dining room table. I cameo at another table where the DM has several thousand dollars in minis, magnetic set pieces, a fog machine designed to not harm minis, smart lights installed in his house that he can change for story lighting effects like lightning or campfires, and a table designed for playing dnd. The thing is, I have about the same amount of fun at both tables. The cinematic experience at the one table is certainly a delight, but ultimately I'm there for the game experience and that doesn't change much between good tables.
Man sounds like you an ideaolgy that makes you a victim for no reason. Warhammer is aimed at adults, not children. It's not "classism" that some kids have richer families. Thats just the dice roll of life. That's what Warhammer is all about. Strategy, rules and randomness.
As someone who became a warhammer fan when my uncle gave me his old gaming rig in 2006, I just want you to know, the lore can be serious or even creepy sometimes, but for every "The Watcher in The Rain", there is a "The Infinite and The Divine". Just keep your head on your shoulders. Also, I approve this video. Very much captures the general vibe of warhammer 40K. Unfortunately, you forgot the blood sports and the super cocaine the eldar were also doing when they made buildings out of flesh and started having orgies with them, but I'll give you a pass. We people of the craftworlds didn't want anything to do with that anyway.
That's honestly an amazing way of putting it *fires up the tanks and awakens the dreadnoughts, * Unfortunately the blueberry boys want to have a word with you eldar, and the relationship your kind has with our father!
To summarize Orks Orks + Color Red = I am Speed Orks + Knife = Angry Australian Orks + Fear of some guy = guy is invincible Orks + Orks = Bar Fights In Britain Orks - Knife = s a d Orks + Scrap Metal = huge mech with hundreds of Orks needed to use Orks + Huge mech = Death Orks + Space Marine = Dead Orks Orks + Custodian = Mass Orks genocide Orks + Ork with Funny Hat = Portal
Orkz iz beta dan spise marines. Dey iz just sum umie mega armor nobz, and orkz iz beta dan umiez. I'z krumpd a lot of dem spase marines. Dey knowz noffin ov sneakiness.
I played my first 2000 point warhammer game 3 years after starting lol. All my previous video game time now goes into miniature painting/ warhammer, and for me, it feels much more rewarding. 10/10
My step-dad got me into the 40k board game early on. It was so cool having a turn-based game with figures you decorate yourself. I wish it was more popular
4:40 Dark age of Technology is actually Humanities golden age. So strong and advanced, it would make star trek look like cavemen/children playing with a gun. They had AI like crazy. 40k call it the "dark ages" because they hate AI and the "over reliance on AI" and subsequent SkyNet scale of AI revolt launched humanity into "the age of strife". Which is the "dark age" you are referring to. You might be confusing and merging the two. edit: spelling
There's actually another reason why it might be called the dark age; there are little to no surviving records. IRL we call a dark age a dark age when there just isnt much surviving documentation from that period :. we are in the dark about what happened :. its a dark age. For 40k, almost all the knowledge and history from that period was destroyed in the AI rebellion and ensuing age of strife, so it would make sense why its a dark age for the imperium.
Actually its called the dark ages because they know next to nothing about it. Other than random archeotech and bits they have no way of replecating the tech
They call it a dark age not just because of AI, but because of how horrifying the technology was. Which is saying something for 40k. Also there's literally very little known about it, the more literal definition of a dark age.
"Do you want to experience the bliss of sharing your life with another, or do you want to play with toy soldiers?" Toy soldiers and it's not even close
As a BIT of a veteran I wanna say: Warhammer is expensive AT FIRST. It has a HUGE buy in cost, but remember, unlike card games, you will use these miniatures for YEARS. You only need to buy them ONCE. People still use miniatures they bought and painted in the 90s, and they look GREAT! Remember it's an investment and a collection. And once you have your full army (~ 2.5 to 3k points) your spending amount DROPS through the floor. I spend maybe 20 bucks a month TOTAL on Warhammer and I have 4 full armies. Sorry bit of a ramble, but just remember, your buying in huge, yes. But the cost doesn't stay high for long, just remember to budget properly.
This is exactly it -- it is probably less expensive than Magic the Gathering, but the costs are loaded differently. Given that (here in the UK), it costs around £200 to get a 1000-1500 point army if you don't buy from GW and instead buy from LGSs or second-hand, that's a big investment up front. But consider that you could easily spend £15 per card on average for a good Modern deck in MTG, or even £200 on a single playset for Standard (looking at you, Sheoldred), it's not that steep *compared to other nerd hobbies*. And like you say, I can still use the models from edition to edition (some of my Raider models are late-90s, and still game legal, still very useful units) -- whereas I'd be hard-pressed to find cards surviving Magic's power creep. Compared to "proper" board games as well, and £200 probably buys me 4-5 "big box" games. And will I actually play all of those regularly? Or will I play them once, spend most of game night trying to explain the rules to my wife and friends, and then people go "ah, that was fun as a one-off, but let's play Settlers again next week"?
me pointing to warhammer fantasy players crying in the corner me pointing at warhammer 40k players crying in the corner when first borns are phased out
Yeah I agree. Feels like the people that say the hobby is expensive actually don't see the hobby aspect as an enjoyable thing and instead see it as a chore that needs done in order to play the game. Also who is dropping a grand on WH? If they are doing that then they obviously have the income to afford it. Did no one else start by splitting a launch box, painting it up over multiple months then playing on the kitchen table? It's crazy the amount of takes you hear from people who say the hobby is too expensive but then have an extensive pile of shame. That's not a problem with the hobby, that's you having a spending addiction.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat It's, at it's core, a webcomic. But to call it merely a webcomic is doing it a disservice. It blends Choose your own adventure style story telling (At least early on, that function disappeared after the plot ran away from it), webcomic stylization, flash animation, and an absolutely banger soundtrack to tell a convoluted tale with multi-layered and multiversal plots. It is a doorstopper of a story that took 7 years to complete that early on had extremely fast turnover. I can't remember offhand how long it is exactly but if you wanted to binge it, it'd take several weeks if not months at a reasonable speed of reading and understanding. It also has a frankly ludicrous number of twists, set ups, chekovs guns, tropes and what have you's that make it a brain bender of a story, that can fill several hour long essay videos about the story and characters. Very fun an interesting read but like Warhammer, it's a rabbit hole to fall into and with the suction of a black hole to keep you there. Tread carefully.
It's always to refreshing to see someone's initial steps into Warhammer. My intro to it was Dawn of War, and I remember at that time that I was blown away by how fun and "chill" the orks were, what with my expectations about orcs being influenced by Warcraft and LotR. It took me about 4 years before finding out it was part of a sprawling universe. I pretty much read only Warhammer fiction now and I look forward to finishing the goddamn Horus Heresy books.
Honestly, you did a really good job of grasping the lore, the game, AND MOST IMPRESSIVELY the community that this hobby all revolves around in such a short time, it's genuinely impressive lol, I hope you continue to enjoy the hobby, enjoy your warp dust
I just got into Warhammer literally a week ago and man this is the most relatable video I’ve seen all year from the fact it remained hidden from me for 25 years to financial cost to the fact I’ve spent 12 hours today building this stupid huge Guard Army that are my treasures and I’ll hurt anyone who hurts them. Subscribed.
Man been playing since 2002, the lore is bad and the game is bad. Enjoy your time. You eventually realise GW is the worst and there are better tabletop games.
That last point you made was really important, and one of the things I miss most about not being able to play wargames anymore now that I'm not in college. Pickup games with strangers, checking out their paint jobs, *making up lore* about why your armies are fighting, that was so much fun. I used to go to tournaments pretty much every month, driving 300+ miles to play for 8 hours straight because no matter how much work and time it was, they were undeniably great times that I think of fondly to this day. I had to get out of the hobby because I just did not have the time, but I did keep a small collection of my favorites and ones that were painted for me by better artists than me as birthday/christmas gifts. Every now and then someone will point to them on my shelf and I'll get to tell them about the games I played, and it's a great reminder of good times.
The philosophy and themes of 40K lore can’t be expressed enough, it will make you laugh, cry, contemplate and cry more. It’s so deep and had so many avenues and trees I’d thought and interpretations; it’s amazing
@@saccorhytus It's a setting where everyone passes the time until they get eaten by bugs by having meaningless squabbles while harassing sleeping soulless Egyptian robots.
@@helloyes2288 ...And also literally divine and immortal beings who take a keen interest in humanity? I mean, meaning is fundamentally a concept of value to sentient beings, but humanity is not the only sentients. Or even the smartest or most powerfull. Even if humanity has no purpose in it's own view (except it practically always does, imperial cult, fight for survival etc etc. ) it sure has meaning and use in the eyes of others. Apotheosis is an actual real thing in this universe. Nihilism is not the same as tragedy.
I watched/heard this video while painting a friend's army (T'au Empire) and all i can say is this: This hobby is almost a life commitment and nobody is good at first. Lucky maybe but not good. However after a while you will become more adept to the lore, more skilled with the brush and more strategic with your army. And is soo satisfactory to win a game with a full painted army after an intense battle where the balance of power shifted from one player to another in a single round.. the emperor protects. Death to the false emperor. For the greater good. The ancestors are watching. Waaagh!!! Roleplay your army and have fun.
There are a few options for those who wants to play a videogame with them: * Dawn of War Soulstorm + Blood Angels mod OR Unification mod * Warhammer 40000: Battlesector
I got into Warhammer 40k back when i was in the army, it was introduced to me by a good friend that just so happened to have been the weapons squad leader. Hes a big nerd too, used to play a lot back in the 90s-00s and told me stories about how he used to play with his friends using whole rooms as the play space. I was very interested so i got into it for a bit, started collecting imperial guard. That was almost three maybe four years ago, i recently got back into it and dug out my box of old models that i never finished amd bought some of the new ones that came out while i was out of the hobby, I'm glad i did. Its helping me get through some stuff thats happing in my life right now.
I like to say that Warhammer 40K is a bit like Homestuck, in that once you first get into it, you find yourself physically incapable of thinking about anything else for about 12 to 18 months. After that, you find yourself able to pick up other interests again, but there's a part of you that never really lets go.
As a 40k and Homestuck fan, that's disturbingly on-point. By this point I'm a decade too old to be properly engaged with Hamsteak; it feels immature and boring, but there'll always be a part of me that's influenced by it and thinks about it.
@@aregulargamer1 i don't like to acknowledge that much of my creative writing style and even just speech mannerisms were picked up from a SomethingAwful goon who made a webcomic for 10 years and then when it finally took off enough to start paying his bills did too many drugs to properly finish it. I don't like to acknowledge it, but it's the truth.
8:45 It's also the matter of which specific piece of warhammer is discussed. Looking at the books: Dan Abnett has a much more down to earth military narrative with the "Gaunt's Ghosts" series, McNeils Forges of Mars might often showcase he missery and horrort of an avarage human in 40k, "Brutall Kunnin" by mike brooks revels in wild and riddiculous misadventures of Orks, and Robert Rath does quite good Pratchett Impression in "Infinite and Divine". After almost 40 years of development there's about every kind of warhammer novel out there.
great point, a simple knowledge about; am I looking to read about "modern" 40k setting or the 30k Horus Heresy setting time periods also quickly narrows down the list of books
My favorite part about the Emperor is how he apparently existed throughout all of human history and at one point he tames a dragon? Literally nothing is off the table with 40k lore.
Welcome to the best hobby in the world. I've spent nearly 20 years in it, I know an embarrassing amount about it, and I still can't see anything resembling even the start of the bottom of this wombathole.
If you grew up in Britain reading 2000AD and judge dredd the 40k universe doesn't seem so crazy. It's part of our long tradition of extreme ridiculous satire. We don't take it seriously but we do love the insanity of it all.
@@gianlucar3468 It is to a degree but it's not a complete satire like some equally moronic people appear to believe. 40k has satirical elements but over the years it has changed. Rick Priestly himself said "I think a lot of that got missed and overwritten." Many of the core ideas of the lore are satirical but the smaller happenings and characterizations of various people and factions within the universe are not. Besides, satire is inherently subjective. It seeks to point out perceived failings of the subject matter but to some those "flaws" may not be flaws at all. Case in point, Rorschach from Watchmen. Not to mention the fact that arguments of satirical messages are indirectly presented just like any other art, leaving plenty of room for a different interpretation than the artist intended.
Feels like the final boss of crafting too. I got into every hobby except painting. My husband got into warhammer, and guess who's painting all the creatures 😂🎨
Your enjoyment of the "abstract art" you made clearly marks you as a follower of slaanesh, stay put and await the nearest inquisitor to find you and bring you back into the Emperor's light.
I just got into 40K this year and it really is crazy how visible the hobby's presence is once you get into it. I tried to play Warhammer Fantasy Battles 20 years ago; my parents taught me to paint miniatures and I wanted to play the cool Warcraft-like game I saw at the comic store where I went to play Pokemon TCG. It didn't last long and I burnt out on painting, but I always wanted to return one day. I wonder how much of my decision to go for it was random chance and how much was market pressure. I have a Discord friend who kept pushing me to get interested in 40K and I was big into Magic the Gathering when suddenly, out of the blue, 40K crossed over last year with a set of licensed Commander decks. I was finally exposed to the lore and aesthetics first-hand, and I wanted more. Conveniently, I had *just* gotten back into miniature painting to supply my friends' new D&D group with painted minis, as well as painting the new Hero Quest game pieces. It all fit together too well. Anyway, I've been spending most of my free time on assembling and painting Orks for 6 months and only just got 500 points together to play Boarding Actions, which I have thus far played *once.*
What's even more crazy is how all of those games are connected! Without D&D, GW would never have existed. Without GW, Heroquest wouldn't have reached such an influential state, and without Heroquest's success, Warhammer wouldn't have been as popular as it is today!
Without Warhammer there would be no Warcraft. Orcs vs. Humans was planned as Warhammer game. Then GW took the licenze from Blizzard. Blizzard looked at their nearly finished game and thought .. okay rename that shit, redo the story a bit and publish anyways.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 GW didn't take a license away, Blizzard never got one. Apparently only higher-ups wanted it to maximize sales numbers while the developers were in favor of having full control over the IP.
I agree, they're great. He's by far the best 40k lore TH-camr I've come across. And his choice of artworks to accompany his narration are beyond reproach.
@@dreamer2260i dunno, several of his vids I've seen seem to be straight up wiki reading which while not specifically bad didnt seem to bring too much to the table... Weshammer is good, still fairly wikiheavy but his enthusiasm saves him. Those two new kids doing the podcast style are pretty good, again, still wiki heavy, but again their enthusiasm saves them. And then ya got Arch lurking in the corner, dude's fanaticism i think works really well with the setting lol He's one of my favorites frankly...
For those curious about the strategy of the tabletop game: those objectives mentioned in the video are your win condition, you win by completing more of them than your opponent, which is a gross oversimplification but essentially accurate. This shift actually only happened a few years ago, before then, while objectives existed, the actual strategy largely boiled down to "Kill before he kills you", now you can actually win games you should have lost(in terms of unit losses) by cleverly scraping together all the VP you can.
The beginning part about phrases is so apt it got me thinking about the ones I've heard. One of my favorites being "Come alien dogs and and bring the blades that thirst for the blood of heros, I will die standing as my ancestors did." Also half the things Grimaldis said in Helsreach.
I got Dawn of War in a humble bundle and figured "I like strategy games and this star craft rip off seems interesting. I'll install it someday" and promptly forgot about it. 2 years later a friend of mine introduced me to Warhammer 40k because he knew I liked chatting about sci-fi universes with good lore. I was shocked to find out that "random sci-fi strategy game" that I'd never installed was based on it. I now have spent way too much money on games and miniatures, way too much time painting miniatures, and way too much brain room with exhaustive lore.
GW has done such a shit job marketing 40k lol. The funniest part is that the "star craft rip off" is a significant part of the inspiration for starcraft.
I discovered 40K in a versus discussion on the BBS Star Destroyer Dot Net forums, over 15 years ago. "How many Star Wars military units would have to die before Emperor Palpatine could take the Golden Throne from Holy Terra in the Warhammer 40K universe"? That was the topic being discussed. Turns out, BILLIONS. Billions would have to die. As an avid Star Wars fan and nerd, I was intrigued. A capable and powerful military like that of the Galactic Empire would lose that many? To this "Imperium of Man" I had never heard about? I decided to look into this 40K thing, and I NEVER turned back. I would also like to thank forum user Imperial Overlord for his wonderful fanfic, IN MEMORIA (40K), which was my first in-depth introduction to that fascinating universe, aside from wiki articles.
StarCraft was originally supposed to be a 40k Game. Things fell through early on though. There was a bit of a Legal Battle, and the end result was Dawn of War and Blizzard agreeing not to Sue Games Workshop for Dawn of War as long as Games Workshop didn't sue over StarCraft.
@@justinlast2lastharder749it was war craft, not star craft, they both are pretty similar, but that's because they both take inspiration from starship troopers (in the book, all human soldiers used a sort of power armor, not just shitty kevlar armor)
As a person who has been apart of this hobby for 10 years and counting, I think you hit the nail on the coffin for summerizing and talking about this hobbies!
I just came back to warhammer yesterday after a 10+ year break and spent $250 on the new Leviathan starter box, then got home and realized I could get a 3d printer and filaments for around that price and print them at home. My girlfriend had a blast making the models with me and even wanted to run a couple small games. Overall fun hobby but very time consuming and expensive.
@@joebot86That's fair. I've had my brother make my DnD figures out of resin since you get finer details. But filament printers are cheaper, cleaner and easier.
I have been into reading lore for years, my friend finally got me to paint an old start collecting blood angels box I’ve had for over 5 years. 8 months later i just keep painting and painting, haven’t played a game yet. For anyone new, just give it a shot. The painting part really is a great hobby- a chance to shut off my brain and just paint- and it’s so tangible. You watch this army grow, you see your skills grow. It’s great. Hopefully one day my blood angels will see battle. For the emperor and sanguinius. Great video too by the way man.
There also is a warhammer shop in Manhattan beach in LA. The nice thing about going to official shops is that you can ask for building and painting tutorial and they’ll provide the materials and walk you through. On the game side it takes a lot of space (except the skirmish ones) and some smaller hobby shops may not let you have games. In the official you can call ahead and get a table or on a slow day just show up and they have terrain and matts there. Just have to be lucky that the manger at the shop is chill about the rules since GW is annoying when it comes to what you can use or talk about in the stores. The smaller Warhammer shops tend to be way more chill about non-official GW materials and tools being used.
I will say this, has having started in the hobby almost 2 years ago it was one of my best decisions. It is expensive and the rules can be hard to follow sometimes. But the community, and building your guys is the best feeling in the world. Every time I finish a mini I feel proud of it even if it isn’t my best job.
For those of you who are iffy on the price, let me mention "Kill Team" Its a offical warhammer 40k format were you play with a single squad. Thats right only one. Thats around $50 across the board for most if not all of the factions. Plus the "bespoke" kill teams (Ones GW makes for kill team) Its less models you need to paint to play and less money you need to give to GW. (not counting paints and books) It fun and much shorter time per game than a full 2000+ points game. As a seasoned 40K player since 6th edition take my word that is waaaaaay easier than lugging a full army around every where and massivly cheaper.
The darkest settings attract the nicest people. I can say I have, on multiple occasions, tried and failed to find angry or rude or just generally unpleasnt people in person to play 40k with just experience what its like over the course of the past 2 years. I have yet to a single one.
One of the funniest explanations of the lore I've seen, and I've been around 40k for a few. In fact my 1st battle was in 1988 so I've seen it all evolve over the years. I really like the reference to sweaty gatekeepers at the end and have had the unfortunate experience of meeting a few in my time. But I've also been in it for 30 years. That's just gonna happen.
I'm new, picked up a leviathan box spent the last 2 weeks or so making the models. I've bought paints and materials but I haven't even started basing/painting yet because I've been so distracted with customizing every model and reading lore. Surprisingly I'm only 200 bucks in right now, which is alot, but not as much as I expected. I think by the time my models are table top ready I'll be 400-600 in. Whilst its definitely not cheap by any standard, honestly I think I can get a few months worth of fun before I even consider actually playing the game. The 10th edition codices haven't even released yet so I'm gunna be waiting until then at least. Setting the actual game aside interacting with the community alone is amazing, going online talking in forums, finding niche communities who love successor chapters that no one has ever heard. And just walking into hobby shops and talking for hours to the people there makes the cost all worth it for me.
"... And I thought it was a French thing" The food I had been eating is now plastered on the walls, like the heads of Fantasy peeps and the mention of Bretonnia or whatever there
As a veteran I'm very glad you had an excellent first experience playing in this community, I don't play much anymore but it feels like the douchebags and edgelords have the loudest voices sometimes, but they are a loud minority and most staff members and players you'll meet in the real world are lovely people and I hope more newcomers have the same experience as you.
Remember the days of Imp guard mortars and pinning checks? Those were the dark ages for me, I am almost afraid to play cause Id rather have fun, not a recast of late 9ths flamer steamroller
OH my gosh I love this video. I just recently started getting into 40k and the amount of depth to everything is just simply astounding... I feel like you quite literally verbalized how I feel right now.
I first saw the Warhammer books and models at my local hobby shop in the mid 80's. I was fasinated, but didn't have the money. About 10 years ago, it popped up on my radar again. Now I had the money, but I don't have the time. So... I listen to the audiobooks during my commute. #ForTheEmporor !
The lore is funny. I love the Orks and they are the most ridiculous thing I have every seen and I am deep in many a thing. Also might be worth mentioning, I’ve been in the hobby for just over 20 years as well at this point. I will say that I didn’t care to much about the 40k side of things back when as I was, and still am, a Fantasy man. Not Age of Sigmar, but that which came before which to me had a much more interesting lore, but that’s just my opinion and people are allowed to like AoS more. The reason I mention this is because I grew up reading the Gotrek and Felix novels and they are what really made me fall in love with all the lore. Later I got into the Commissar Cain books and I still love both sets of books to this day. Gotrek and Felix is just a high fantasy good time with good guys, bad guys and a reoccurring after school villain like character. Commissar Cain is an incredibly interesting way of writing as it’s written as an autobiography of a Hero who, by their own admission, was just running for their life, fighting those enemies that got in his way, waiting for the dust to clear and then being praised as a hero because he accidentally killed the big bad while running. Both are excellent romps and both are available in audiobook form, though don’t buy them from GW as they are terribly overpriced. Just go on Audible and get one a month for 75% less then what GW charges with your free token. I love the Lore, I love the setting, I hate the company currently, but I still hope to see more of Dah Boyz join dah WAAAGH if it’s what they want. Just so long as they know how much it may cost ‘em in teef.
Your intro resonated with me so much! I'm 42 and just discovered 40k about 2 months ago... how the ** did I not know about this??? But now I can say I am deeeep into it( maybe a tiny bit too much according to my wife haha)! I have not yet played a real game but I love assembling an painting to death, it's almost therapeutic.
I got lucky when buying models because I had a buddy who knew the cost inside and out. I ended up with about 2500 pts of Black Templars for about $320. Is is a usable army all at once no but its a ton of fun regardless.
When I imagine a Warhammer 40k battle. Hammer smashed face by cannibal corpse and raining blood and Angel of death by slayer are playing in the background 😂 all mixed together in a beautifully brutal chaotic soup 😂😂
I’ve been into 40K for nearly a decade now, and I’m just here for the books and the video games. I may, at some point, get one of the new terminator squads for some decoration for my computer desk, and paint them as Iron Hands, of course, because Iron Hands are OBJECTIVELY the coolest loyalist marines and I will suplex anyone directly into an ICU if I am challenged on this. But other than books, fan content and video games, I’m good. I’d rather not have to sell my only remaining leg to play the tabletop.
As a fan already up to my teeth in the wombat hole (and debt) I always like to see new fans of the hobby explain their perspective on things, and I’m glad you’re enjoying stuff
One minor correction with he scattering of the Primarchs it was later revealed that the Primarch's biological mother had a hand in it as a way to of keeping them away from the Emperor's tyrannical influence. Other than that spot on summary.
@@pffpffovich2398 not even. It adds more details to the creation of the Primarchs and it showcases that more people were aware of how tyrannical the Emperor was. Every new peak into the past shows just how much of the Emperor was nothing more than projection and lies.
I feel she should really have known better than to trust chaos. I get only Big E did any significant research in that area and that perhaps chaos wasn't as active in the past millenia but even so #blameErebus
@@lordgod9958 thats the thing as far as we know she didn't trust chaos. Though she might have been aware of the deal Big E made with chaos and later went back on.
What kept me away for so long was (A, prohibitively expensive) but also (B, too edgy in an off putting way) Like no one ever seemed like they were having fun. Tonally it’s a bit of a disaster, yet Warhammer has been lurking on the periphery of my interests for so long and I think it’s slowly winning me over I guess I appreciate how much irony is there that I never noticed before
Also worth looking into Kill team for just getting into the hobby. Some of the best teams can be made with one roughly ~$60 box. Great for getting your feet wet with the hobby side and a fun game on its own
12:21 It will absolutely not cost a thousand dollars to get an army from scratch. My first army of Necrons is now 4000 points and is still not even close to 1000 dollars, even counting all accessories.
you can equalize the price of the miniatures if you either use a 3d printer or buy from 3rd party stores (i do the ladder one and since i live in Europe its less expensive than in usa, a imperial knight in gw prices costs here 145€ while in usa one costs 175$)
Okay so I messed something up. The Dark Age of Technology is evidently the golden age of technology, from 15 to 25k. They call it that because they're scared of technology now. 25-29k, when everything was ACTALLY bad, is called the Age of Strife. Thank you comments for being polite about that.
As a Warhammer fan (for science) you are contractually obligated to watch/read:
- If the Emperor had a TTS device (all of it) [funny]
- Squad Broken [wholesome]
- To break a soldier of the Machine God [also wholesome]
- the smut
The cost of titans can be measured in cars
BTW The Emperor "Big-E" "Emps" "Sassy toilet sitter" is more like 12-13 ft tall, not 8
not the smut but if ya want more lore adeptus ridiculus and tts is good
@@somerandommorron7069 You will watch ALL OF THE SMUT, for the Prince of Pleasures
20:49 The Emperor Protects, heretic!
Signed: Your local Imperial Guard player
It was a golden age of technology, but it was also absolutely horrifying technology beyond comprehension.
The truest "war" of warhammer is the fans vs Games Workshop
Those bastards are barely human, look at what they did to our boy astartes guy.
Peace was never an option.
The company broke before the fans did
@@ZackeTheBrute What happened to him ?
War never changes
My favorite thing about 40k lore is how much you can get out of it. One day you can be philosophically musing on the nature of evil, and the next day you can read about two Egyptian robot zombies with a 65 million year old grudge against each other using reality bending god technology to beat each other with their old man sticks.
The Infinite and The Divine is straight-up one of the best WH40k books I've read. It really puts the struggles of the Imperium in a different light as you see the millennia pass by from the eyes of a being that has lived for millions of years. For Trayzyn, the hold the Imperium has over a particular planet for a few millennia means nothing. To him, they come and go in the blink of an eye and they are barely worth the effort of exterminating as they will inevitably be gone in a few millennia more anyway.
I feel like blood for the blood god gets associated with technoblade more then warhakmer
@@paunchybeast6945lol no bud
That is exactly what I'm currently doing lol
40k taught me a nonzero number of people would eat babies if their god told them to. also, ogryn go brrr haha
Fun fact: it is cheaper to buy a brand new resin 3D printer, several bottles of resin, and a custom made 3D model of a warlord titan, than it is to buy a warlord titan from GW.
And it’s going to be better quality also.
@@MANTISxBTheSeconding blessed be the servants of the Omnissiah as they are doing the Machine God's work 🙏
"Fulgrim is my favorite"
- Yes inquisidor, this guy right here
Hail the femboy primarch
The Tragedy of Fulgrim.
Inquisitor*
Trazyn appears, steals the Fulgrim fan at his highest and runs back to annoy Orikhan
(Necron enjoyer)
Fulgrim can't hold a candle to Magnus.
I love the over the top whackyness that extends to the players. On the tabletop with certain rule sets people have done things like called up other game shops across town to call in artillery strikes from other players because those artillery units had unlimited range making it perfectly legal and viable.
God I love this game
@@Drekromancer Or that time that was apparently a landmark strategy counter when some player infamous for keeping his whole army in reserve and deploying all his units at once positioned to counter what his opponent set up lost a match without being able to put anything on the board at all,because they couldn't be placed too close to enemy units so a guy covered all of those spaces on the board with scouts.
So now there's a picture floating around with this stereotypical looking nerd poring over a rulebook with a referee in front of a board with little men around all the edges,and this other guy just beaming smugness.
UK and US shops once had an inter-continental ICBM war because the Deathstrike Nuclear Missile carrier used to have infinite range.
So they both set up batteries on multiple tables and had a nuclear war over the phone.
@@aregulargamer1
Oh my Emperor, YESSS. I like that. 😂
@@aregulargamer1do you know who won?
A joke a buddy of mine made is that 40k may have saved my life. I got into it 2 years ago, and since then my life and choices have changed quite abit. Now I hang out with my 40k group atleast 1x a week (there's 12 of us) and spent all my money and time.enjoying my hobby. Before 40k I had no hobbies and just spent my time and money drinking and doing drugs and eating like shit. The plastic Crack consumed my income instead
So you're not eating like shit anymore? Do you have a family? Do you work out? Do you have a good job or your own company? Hobbies are good. In measure. Otherwise it become a waste of life.
Once again nerd addiction has saved another lost soul
All hail to the plastic crack
That's great man. I suspect 40k has done that for quite a few people, I've heard some stories. I wouldn't personally say that it saved my life, but it certainly changed it and my outlook on certain aspects of life. 40k really is an amazing hobby and universe
My pile of shame is a glorious testament to plastic crack.
"I do recommend getting into Warhammer, however that looks for you"
That last part is so important for people to understand. I know painters who have never even played a game with their models. I know lore experts who are plastic-crack free. I know people who know Vermintide 2 in and out, but nothing of 40k. I think that's what makes it THE hobby
honestly, yeah. you can learn the lore through total war: warhammer and only the the digital games, you can know jackshit about the lore, fantasy or 40k, and only know vermintide knowing its some form of dark fantasy universe. thats how i got into the community, and will stay that way because i could never afford the models with how badly they consume paychecks, let alone my lack of painting skills.
Vermintide has nothing to do with 40.
@@Liberty_or_Ded yeah i guess i couldve phrased it better. i meant people knowing of one aspect of the franchise but nothing of the other side and still being Warhammer fans
Lutein09, who is THE 40k lore guy on TH-cam doesn't play tabletop at all, AFAIK.
@@retributive Very fair
My old roommate was obsessed with this hobby, there must have been a box a week of 40k that showed up on our porch. Thanks for going through the trouble of summarizing this behemoth.
You mean HIVE FLEET BEHEMOTH OF THE TYRANIDS?!?!?!
A BOX A WEEK! LIKE DID HE HAVE ANY MONEY
Sounds like a GOAT
A box a week? So he was also in the 1%?
Did he only eat 2min noodles 😂
20:00 the lore is *supposed to be funny.*
exhibit A: warp travel is renowned in-universe to be extremely fuckery. we're talking "a day passed in the warp, but in realspace it's last week"-levels of fuckery. in one story an ork warboss took advantage of this when his space hulk somehow traveled a week back in time; he tracked down his past-self and killed him(self) just so he could have a spare of his favourite gun.
this is like everything not to do in time travel
@@lukecodz
They’re orks. If they don’t believe something will happen, IT WON’T.
Which book is this.
I love the orks
and it did not cause a Paradox because Orks are to stupid to understand the concept of such and thus the timeline was perfectly fine.
Picking Warp Talons as a first model was a very bold choice
👀
Calling 40k a wombat hole is more accurate than you think. Wombats dig their tunnels in such a way that they've been known to literally twerk predators to death against the tunnel ceiling.
Wombat thug shaker is deadly.
@@nathanielhinz4946 💀
@@nathanielhinz4946The thug shaker cmon do the thug shaker. Shake that wombat thug ass I know you can do it
Slaaneshi wombats?!
@@nathanielhinz4946 the wombats have that turbulence
"Up yours Fulgrim! Have a virus bomb you perverted snake!"
-Rylanor
Shamefully unappreciated comment
Fuck everything in all directions I say!
"That's a nice argument dad,there's just one problem: I have a virus bomb"
What does a space wolf (mococo) know about the emperor's childrens ?
Rylanor! Get out of the tank!
I literally have a virus bomb and you dont.
The lore is far deeper than it has any right to be.
Considering it’s been constantly written and added to for most of my 50+ years of life, it’s not surprising that there is so much of it.
It's comically ridiculous sci-fi.
It's a mash up of judge dredd, flash Gordon, Dune, star wars and medieval Catholicism. But this unholy witches brew works and is compelling.
@@1simo93521 that's less than half the recipe and honestly I consider that a selling point
@1simo93521 it's kinda funny how it was a most obvious reference to popular sci fi only to put up the walls to protect its obvious ripoff of every media
Bro clearly hasn't met Napoleonic miniature gamers
Warhammer was my first real introduction to classism as a kid. I thought all of us nerds were all in it together with our D&D books and imaginations of fantasy worlds. Turns out if you had rich parents you didn’t have to imagine it. You could own it in miniature. I always found it fascinating.
Any nerd Fandom I've encountered has an incredible variety in how much money you can put into it and still enjoy the game. I play dnd at 2 tables. At my main table, the DM has a grid map with dry erase markers on his dining room table. I cameo at another table where the DM has several thousand dollars in minis, magnetic set pieces, a fog machine designed to not harm minis, smart lights installed in his house that he can change for story lighting effects like lightning or campfires, and a table designed for playing dnd.
The thing is, I have about the same amount of fun at both tables. The cinematic experience at the one table is certainly a delight, but ultimately I'm there for the game experience and that doesn't change much between good tables.
Man sounds like you an ideaolgy that makes you a victim for no reason. Warhammer is aimed at adults, not children.
It's not "classism" that some kids have richer families. Thats just the dice roll of life. That's what Warhammer is all about. Strategy, rules and randomness.
@marcusbrutus710 that must be dumbest thing I've read all year. You really thought you cooked with that one, didn't you? 😂
@@Caleb6000he really went “ugh I just really wish those POORS would stop complaining”
@@ateacup2788 there are poors around? yuck.
As someone who became a warhammer fan when my uncle gave me his old gaming rig in 2006, I just want you to know, the lore can be serious or even creepy sometimes, but for every "The Watcher in The Rain", there is a "The Infinite and The Divine". Just keep your head on your shoulders. Also, I approve this video. Very much captures the general vibe of warhammer 40K. Unfortunately, you forgot the blood sports and the super cocaine the eldar were also doing when they made buildings out of flesh and started having orgies with them, but I'll give you a pass. We people of the craftworlds didn't want anything to do with that anyway.
Trazyn has confiscated this comment for posterity.
Yes, brother Eldar. We are far better than those Drukharii, or Asuryanii. Glory to the Outcasts, glory to the Exodites!
That's honestly an amazing way of putting it *fires up the tanks and awakens the dreadnoughts, * Unfortunately the blueberry boys want to have a word with you eldar, and the relationship your kind has with our father!
Eeeeuuuurrrgggghhh
Purge the xenos :/ 😂
I'll see you that and raise you Gaunt's Ghosts and The Last Chancers. But I'll take a look at what you've recommended.
To summarize Orks
Orks + Color Red = I am Speed
Orks + Knife = Angry Australian
Orks + Fear of some guy = guy is invincible
Orks + Orks = Bar Fights In Britain
Orks - Knife = s a d
Orks + Scrap Metal = huge mech with hundreds of Orks needed to use
Orks + Huge mech = Death
Orks + Space Marine = Dead Orks
Orks + Custodian = Mass Orks genocide
Orks + Ork with Funny Hat = Portal
Orks + Color Purple = John Cena
Orks + Sniper Rifle = Inquisitorial Fuckery
@@kingleech16 Oo iz dat? A Umie kommando? I'z still lot sneakier. E kan try fight me, I'z real sneaky like... Shhh...
Orkz iz beta dan spise marines. Dey iz just sum umie mega armor nobz, and orkz iz beta dan umiez.
I'z krumpd a lot of dem spase marines. Dey knowz noffin ov sneakiness.
Ork --- yarrik-- best fighter and also scariest MOTHERCUKER to exist
I played my first 2000 point warhammer game 3 years after starting lol. All my previous video game time now goes into miniature painting/ warhammer, and for me, it feels much more rewarding. 10/10
It’s such a cool hobby!
How do you get yourself to stop playing video games long enough to start the hobby
@@Lazare7782 Selling your pc / console to buy miniatures would *probably* work
You said “and death to the false emperor“ and instinctively i shouted for everyone around me to hear „HERETIC“
I wish I could as well but I watched this in class.
My step-dad got me into the 40k board game early on. It was so cool having a turn-based game with figures you decorate yourself. I wish it was more popular
4:40 Dark age of Technology is actually Humanities golden age. So strong and advanced, it would make star trek look like cavemen/children playing with a gun. They had AI like crazy.
40k call it the "dark ages" because they hate AI and the "over reliance on AI" and subsequent SkyNet scale of AI revolt launched humanity into "the age of strife". Which is the "dark age" you are referring to.
You might be confusing and merging the two.
edit: spelling
There's actually another reason why it might be called the dark age; there are little to no surviving records. IRL we call a dark age a dark age when there just isnt much surviving documentation from that period :. we are in the dark about what happened :. its a dark age. For 40k, almost all the knowledge and history from that period was destroyed in the AI rebellion and ensuing age of strife, so it would make sense why its a dark age for the imperium.
Actually its called the dark ages because they know next to nothing about it. Other than random archeotech and bits they have no way of replecating the tech
That, and they consider it a spiritual dark age.
@@cjrbread5928it’s probably stored on some system deep within Mars on some format inaccessible, lost and forgotten in a horrific nightmare tomb.
They call it a dark age not just because of AI, but because of how horrifying the technology was. Which is saying something for 40k.
Also there's literally very little known about it, the more literal definition of a dark age.
My version of "dipping my toes" into 40k was a three hour long comprehensive timeline video, literally a couple of days ago. I haven't stopped.
I recommend the exploring series or Attenborough lore, then
LUETIN09
link??
@@krsteon luetin
Same
"Do you want to experience the bliss of sharing your life with another, or do you want to play with toy soldiers?"
Toy soldiers and it's not even close
Very few marriages last for 40 years nowadays anyway.
It isn't a hobby its an addiction
As a BIT of a veteran I wanna say:
Warhammer is expensive AT FIRST.
It has a HUGE buy in cost, but remember, unlike card games, you will use these miniatures for YEARS. You only need to buy them ONCE. People still use miniatures they bought and painted in the 90s, and they look GREAT! Remember it's an investment and a collection. And once you have your full army (~ 2.5 to 3k points) your spending amount DROPS through the floor. I spend maybe 20 bucks a month TOTAL on Warhammer and I have 4 full armies.
Sorry bit of a ramble, but just remember, your buying in huge, yes. But the cost doesn't stay high for long, just remember to budget properly.
This is exactly it -- it is probably less expensive than Magic the Gathering, but the costs are loaded differently. Given that (here in the UK), it costs around £200 to get a 1000-1500 point army if you don't buy from GW and instead buy from LGSs or second-hand, that's a big investment up front.
But consider that you could easily spend £15 per card on average for a good Modern deck in MTG, or even £200 on a single playset for Standard (looking at you, Sheoldred), it's not that steep *compared to other nerd hobbies*. And like you say, I can still use the models from edition to edition (some of my Raider models are late-90s, and still game legal, still very useful units) -- whereas I'd be hard-pressed to find cards surviving Magic's power creep.
Compared to "proper" board games as well, and £200 probably buys me 4-5 "big box" games. And will I actually play all of those regularly? Or will I play them once, spend most of game night trying to explain the rules to my wife and friends, and then people go "ah, that was fun as a one-off, but let's play Settlers again next week"?
me pointing to warhammer fantasy players crying in the corner
me pointing at warhammer 40k players crying in the corner when first borns are phased out
Yeah I agree. Feels like the people that say the hobby is expensive actually don't see the hobby aspect as an enjoyable thing and instead see it as a chore that needs done in order to play the game. Also who is dropping a grand on WH? If they are doing that then they obviously have the income to afford it. Did no one else start by splitting a launch box, painting it up over multiple months then playing on the kitchen table?
It's crazy the amount of takes you hear from people who say the hobby is too expensive but then have an extensive pile of shame. That's not a problem with the hobby, that's you having a spending addiction.
@@tinfoilhat4417 couldn't agree more! I maybe spent a grand on my collection, but that was over the course of 3 years!
@@kelthuzad4634 you know what? You got me there 😉
The Nerdiness skill tree is like a straight bar. You start in the middle. One side has Warhammer and the other has Homestuck.
I have consistently heard about homestuck and yet still haven’t found out what that is
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat It's, at it's core, a webcomic. But to call it merely a webcomic is doing it a disservice. It blends Choose your own adventure style story telling (At least early on, that function disappeared after the plot ran away from it), webcomic stylization, flash animation, and an absolutely banger soundtrack to tell a convoluted tale with multi-layered and multiversal plots. It is a doorstopper of a story that took 7 years to complete that early on had extremely fast turnover. I can't remember offhand how long it is exactly but if you wanted to binge it, it'd take several weeks if not months at a reasonable speed of reading and understanding.
It also has a frankly ludicrous number of twists, set ups, chekovs guns, tropes and what have you's that make it a brain bender of a story, that can fill several hour long essay videos about the story and characters.
Very fun an interesting read but like Warhammer, it's a rabbit hole to fall into and with the suction of a black hole to keep you there. Tread carefully.
There's a Sarah Z video that explains everything from the lore to the basic story and the cultural impact in just over 2 hours lol
I’ve mastered both sides of the skill tree then
@@albinre3637 no way he 100%ed it
It's always to refreshing to see someone's initial steps into Warhammer. My intro to it was Dawn of War, and I remember at that time that I was blown away by how fun and "chill" the orks were, what with my expectations about orcs being influenced by Warcraft and LotR. It took me about 4 years before finding out it was part of a sprawling universe. I pretty much read only Warhammer fiction now and I look forward to finishing the goddamn Horus Heresy books.
Honestly, you did a really good job of grasping the lore, the game, AND MOST IMPRESSIVELY the community that this hobby all revolves around in such a short time, it's genuinely impressive lol, I hope you continue to enjoy the hobby, enjoy your warp dust
Gun guys, car guys, and computer guys when you mention that a starter set is only $1000: *nervous laughter and shifty eyes*
I just got into Warhammer literally a week ago and man this is the most relatable video I’ve seen all year from the fact it remained hidden from me for 25 years to financial cost to the fact I’ve spent 12 hours today building this stupid huge Guard Army that are my treasures and I’ll hurt anyone who hurts them.
Subscribed.
They call them plastic crack for a reason.
Man been playing since 2002, the lore is bad and the game is bad.
Enjoy your time. You eventually realise GW is the worst and there are better tabletop games.
@@n3rdworldproblemz877heretic
@@n3rdworldproblemz877 No GW is bad and that's it, you can enjoy warhammer 40k without being an idiot who buys all overpriced miniatures of GW
@@n3rdworldproblemz877why are u here if u think its bad sit
I can't believe you didn't give the tabletop game a rating of "2 thin coats"
Always remember, the Emperor commands you to thin your paints, citizen.
it literally wont change anything, its just extra work for the same outcome.
Data from this era are fractured and contradictory...
Why would a new player even know about that? Duncan been automated by contrast paints for years now
You shan't thin your yellows
It's not just goofy and over the top, but it is also a platform for great horror stories.
That last point you made was really important, and one of the things I miss most about not being able to play wargames anymore now that I'm not in college. Pickup games with strangers, checking out their paint jobs, *making up lore* about why your armies are fighting, that was so much fun. I used to go to tournaments pretty much every month, driving 300+ miles to play for 8 hours straight because no matter how much work and time it was, they were undeniably great times that I think of fondly to this day.
I had to get out of the hobby because I just did not have the time, but I did keep a small collection of my favorites and ones that were painted for me by better artists than me as birthday/christmas gifts. Every now and then someone will point to them on my shelf and I'll get to tell them about the games I played, and it's a great reminder of good times.
I don’t think people understand how important this fight really is
The philosophy and themes of 40K lore can’t be expressed enough, it will make you laugh, cry, contemplate and cry more. It’s so deep and had so many avenues and trees I’d thought and interpretations; it’s amazing
I disagree and think it can be summed up with “nihilism”
@@helloyes2288 what? do you even know what warhammer is?
@@saccorhytus It's a setting where everyone passes the time until they get eaten by bugs by having meaningless squabbles while harassing sleeping soulless Egyptian robots.
@@helloyes2288
...And also literally divine and immortal beings who take a keen interest in humanity? I mean, meaning is fundamentally a concept of value to sentient beings, but humanity is not the only sentients. Or even the smartest or most powerfull. Even if humanity has no purpose in it's own view (except it practically always does, imperial cult, fight for survival etc etc. ) it sure has meaning and use in the eyes of others. Apotheosis is an actual real thing in this universe.
Nihilism is not the same as tragedy.
I watched/heard this video while painting a friend's army (T'au Empire) and all i can say is this: This hobby is almost a life commitment and nobody is good at first. Lucky maybe but not good. However after a while you will become more adept to the lore, more skilled with the brush and more strategic with your army. And is soo satisfactory to win a game with a full painted army after an intense battle where the balance of power shifted from one player to another in a single round.. the emperor protects. Death to the false emperor. For the greater good. The ancestors are watching. Waaagh!!! Roleplay your army and have fun.
Been into the lore and hobby since i 12. Im 40 now. Been a Blood Angel player since the start. 40k is just awesome.
RIP Hawkboy
I'm more of a Dark Angels person.
our favourite space vampires😄
For Sanguinius!
There are a few options for those who wants to play a videogame with them:
* Dawn of War Soulstorm + Blood Angels mod OR Unification mod
* Warhammer 40000: Battlesector
A 15 minute PowerPoint on “why your talking sword is bad” probably would have saved the galaxy some grief.
I got into Warhammer 40k back when i was in the army, it was introduced to me by a good friend that just so happened to have been the weapons squad leader. Hes a big nerd too, used to play a lot back in the 90s-00s and told me stories about how he used to play with his friends using whole rooms as the play space. I was very interested so i got into it for a bit, started collecting imperial guard. That was almost three maybe four years ago, i recently got back into it and dug out my box of old models that i never finished amd bought some of the new ones that came out while i was out of the hobby, I'm glad i did. Its helping me get through some stuff thats happing in my life right now.
"Hey! Have you guys tried drugs yet?" -My new favorite Fulgrim quote
Angron “Tried it, still angry!”
I like to say that Warhammer 40K is a bit like Homestuck, in that once you first get into it, you find yourself physically incapable of thinking about anything else for about 12 to 18 months. After that, you find yourself able to pick up other interests again, but there's a part of you that never really lets go.
As a 40k and Homestuck fan, that's disturbingly on-point.
By this point I'm a decade too old to be properly engaged with Hamsteak; it feels immature and boring, but there'll always be a part of me that's influenced by it and thinks about it.
@@aregulargamer1 lol "Hamsteak"
@@aregulargamer1 i don't like to acknowledge that much of my creative writing style and even just speech mannerisms were picked up from a SomethingAwful goon who made a webcomic for 10 years and then when it finally took off enough to start paying his bills did too many drugs to properly finish it. I don't like to acknowledge it, but it's the truth.
@@R0S3inC0NCR33T a comment this raw and real doesn't deserve to be languishing in a corner like this
8:45 It's also the matter of which specific piece of warhammer is discussed. Looking at the books: Dan Abnett has a much more down to earth military narrative with the "Gaunt's Ghosts" series, McNeils Forges of Mars might often showcase he missery and horrort of an avarage human in 40k, "Brutall Kunnin" by mike brooks revels in wild and riddiculous misadventures of Orks, and Robert Rath does quite good Pratchett Impression in "Infinite and Divine".
After almost 40 years of development there's about every kind of warhammer novel out there.
And don´t forget the Blackadder goes forth of the universe, the Ciaphas Cain series.
great point, a simple knowledge about; am I looking to read about "modern" 40k setting or the 30k Horus Heresy setting time periods also quickly narrows down the list of books
@@janhornak5739 I think of him more as "Not-nearly-as-reprehensible Flashman".
My favorite part about the Emperor is how he apparently existed throughout all of human history and at one point he tames a dragon? Literally nothing is off the table with 40k lore.
He imprisoned a large shard of a star God called The Void Dragon on Mars. Mortals wrote St. George and the Dragon. Or something like that.
Welcome to the best hobby in the world. I've spent nearly 20 years in it, I know an embarrassing amount about it, and I still can't see anything resembling even the start of the bottom of this wombathole.
If you grew up in Britain reading 2000AD and judge dredd the 40k universe doesn't seem so crazy. It's part of our long tradition of extreme ridiculous satire.
We don't take it seriously but we do love the insanity of it all.
Based and and ABC Warrior pilled.
please tell Americans it's satire. They are missing the point 100%
@@rutgaurxi7314Blue Trooper is best boy.
@@gianlucar3468 is it, tho?
@@gianlucar3468 It is to a degree but it's not a complete satire like some equally moronic people appear to believe. 40k has satirical elements but over the years it has changed. Rick Priestly himself said "I think a lot of that got missed and overwritten." Many of the core ideas of the lore are satirical but the smaller happenings and characterizations of various people and factions within the universe are not.
Besides, satire is inherently subjective. It seeks to point out perceived failings of the subject matter but to some those "flaws" may not be flaws at all. Case in point, Rorschach from Watchmen. Not to mention the fact that arguments of satirical messages are indirectly presented just like any other art, leaving plenty of room for a different interpretation than the artist intended.
Feels like the final boss of crafting too. I got into every hobby except painting. My husband got into warhammer, and guess who's painting all the creatures 😂🎨
Damn he found a true one
Your enjoyment of the "abstract art" you made clearly marks you as a follower of slaanesh, stay put and await the nearest inquisitor to find you and bring you back into the Emperor's light.
Is that light a muzzle flash ?
@@then00brathalos I will neither confirm nor deny this
I've never been so stoked to have gotten into 3D printing before going down the 40k rabbit hole
"Warhammer is the final boss of nerd stuff"
Warhammer is merely the gateway drug to even nerdier nerd stuff.
Like?
I just got into 40K this year and it really is crazy how visible the hobby's presence is once you get into it. I tried to play Warhammer Fantasy Battles 20 years ago; my parents taught me to paint miniatures and I wanted to play the cool Warcraft-like game I saw at the comic store where I went to play Pokemon TCG. It didn't last long and I burnt out on painting, but I always wanted to return one day.
I wonder how much of my decision to go for it was random chance and how much was market pressure. I have a Discord friend who kept pushing me to get interested in 40K and I was big into Magic the Gathering when suddenly, out of the blue, 40K crossed over last year with a set of licensed Commander decks. I was finally exposed to the lore and aesthetics first-hand, and I wanted more. Conveniently, I had *just* gotten back into miniature painting to supply my friends' new D&D group with painted minis, as well as painting the new Hero Quest game pieces. It all fit together too well.
Anyway, I've been spending most of my free time on assembling and painting Orks for 6 months and only just got 500 points together to play Boarding Actions, which I have thus far played *once.*
What's even more crazy is how all of those games are connected!
Without D&D, GW would never have existed. Without GW, Heroquest wouldn't have reached such an influential state, and without Heroquest's success, Warhammer wouldn't have been as popular as it is today!
Without Warhammer there would be no Warcraft.
Orcs vs. Humans was planned as Warhammer game.
Then GW took the licenze from Blizzard.
Blizzard looked at their nearly finished game and thought .. okay rename that shit, redo the story a bit and publish anyways.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 GW didn't take a license away, Blizzard never got one. Apparently only higher-ups wanted it to maximize sales numbers while the developers were in favor of having full control over the IP.
Callout for Luetin’s 40k lore videos. Spent far too many hours for years of my life watching them and they are fantastic.
I agree, they're great. He's by far the best 40k lore TH-camr I've come across. And his choice of artworks to accompany his narration are beyond reproach.
He is Loremaster Prime for sure. He's what got me into 40k.
@@dreamer2260i dunno, several of his vids I've seen seem to be straight up wiki reading which while not specifically bad didnt seem to bring too much to the table...
Weshammer is good, still fairly wikiheavy but his enthusiasm saves him.
Those two new kids doing the podcast style are pretty good, again, still wiki heavy, but again their enthusiasm saves them.
And then ya got Arch lurking in the corner, dude's fanaticism i think works really well with the setting lol He's one of my favorites frankly...
@@monkeymonk666 yikes
The Amber King is the GOAT in 40k lore in my opinion. It’s hard to go back to anyone else.
For those curious about the strategy of the tabletop game: those objectives mentioned in the video are your win condition, you win by completing more of them than your opponent, which is a gross oversimplification but essentially accurate. This shift actually only happened a few years ago, before then, while objectives existed, the actual strategy largely boiled down to "Kill before he kills you", now you can actually win games you should have lost(in terms of unit losses) by cleverly scraping together all the VP you can.
LIES! VICTORY IS IN THE TOTAL SLAUGHTER OF YOUR ENEMIES!
Unrelated, but I play World Eaters.
Goated pfp
Another has joined us, another channel has fallen into the pit. you will bring more to join us.
The beginning part about phrases is so apt it got me thinking about the ones I've heard. One of my favorites being "Come alien dogs and and bring the blades that thirst for the blood of heros, I will die standing as my ancestors did." Also half the things Grimaldis said in Helsreach.
"Go forth. Have fun out there. and DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR."
*Chef's kiss*
I got Dawn of War in a humble bundle and figured "I like strategy games and this star craft rip off seems interesting. I'll install it someday" and promptly forgot about it. 2 years later a friend of mine introduced me to Warhammer 40k because he knew I liked chatting about sci-fi universes with good lore. I was shocked to find out that "random sci-fi strategy game" that I'd never installed was based on it. I now have spent way too much money on games and miniatures, way too much time painting miniatures, and way too much brain room with exhaustive lore.
GW has done such a shit job marketing 40k lol. The funniest part is that the "star craft rip off" is a significant part of the inspiration for starcraft.
I discovered 40K in a versus discussion on the BBS Star Destroyer Dot Net forums, over 15 years ago. "How many Star Wars military units would have to die before Emperor Palpatine could take the Golden Throne from Holy Terra in the Warhammer 40K universe"?
That was the topic being discussed. Turns out, BILLIONS. Billions would have to die.
As an avid Star Wars fan and nerd, I was intrigued. A capable and powerful military like that of the Galactic Empire would lose that many?
To this "Imperium of Man" I had never heard about?
I decided to look into this 40K thing, and I NEVER turned back. I would also like to thank forum user Imperial Overlord for his wonderful fanfic, IN MEMORIA (40K), which was my first in-depth introduction to that fascinating universe, aside from wiki articles.
StarCraft was originally supposed to be a 40k Game. Things fell through early on though. There was a bit of a Legal Battle, and the end result was Dawn of War and Blizzard agreeing not to Sue Games Workshop for Dawn of War as long as Games Workshop didn't sue over StarCraft.
@@justinlast2lastharder749it was war craft, not star craft, they both are pretty similar, but that's because they both take inspiration from starship troopers (in the book, all human soldiers used a sort of power armor, not just shitty kevlar armor)
Between love and two warhammer armies
No way i’d choose love
Two armies? That’s double of what i need to be happy
Welcome to the fandom brother, although I am quite saddened that you chose to join the losing side. Cadia Stands!
Warhammer: We have the deepest lore
Bionicle: Hold my kanohi
As a person who has been apart of this hobby for 10 years and counting, I think you hit the nail on the coffin for summerizing and talking about this hobbies!
I just came back to warhammer yesterday after a 10+ year break and spent $250 on the new Leviathan starter box, then got home and realized I could get a 3d printer and filaments for around that price and print them at home. My girlfriend had a blast making the models with me and even wanted to run a couple small games. Overall fun hobby but very time consuming and expensive.
The only counter I have is I, personality, hate resin 3d printers with a passion. They are so, so messy.
@@joebot86That's fair. I've had my brother make my DnD figures out of resin since you get finer details. But filament printers are cheaper, cleaner and easier.
I have been into reading lore for years, my friend finally got me to paint an old start collecting blood angels box I’ve had for over 5 years.
8 months later i just keep painting and painting, haven’t played a game yet.
For anyone new, just give it a shot. The painting part really is a great hobby- a chance to shut off my brain and just paint- and it’s so tangible. You watch this army grow, you see your skills grow. It’s great.
Hopefully one day my blood angels will see battle. For the emperor and sanguinius.
Great video too by the way man.
I'm sure when the angel's sons that you have made take to the battle field. He shall bless you with many victories
*taps mic, leans in* “I would of liked, to see the skies of Baal, once more.”
I have never seen such a accurate yet short description of 40k
As an English person who was in to Warhammer in primary school, this was an emotional rollercoaster 😂
There also is a warhammer shop in Manhattan beach in LA. The nice thing about going to official shops is that you can ask for building and painting tutorial and they’ll provide the materials and walk you through.
On the game side it takes a lot of space (except the skirmish ones) and some smaller hobby shops may not let you have games. In the official you can call ahead and get a table or on a slow day just show up and they have terrain and matts there.
Just have to be lucky that the manger at the shop is chill about the rules since GW is annoying when it comes to what you can use or talk about in the stores. The smaller Warhammer shops tend to be way more chill about non-official GW materials and tools being used.
I will say this, has having started in the hobby almost 2 years ago it was one of my best decisions. It is expensive and the rules can be hard to follow sometimes.
But the community, and building your guys is the best feeling in the world. Every time I finish a mini I feel proud of it even if it isn’t my best job.
For those of you who are iffy on the price, let me mention "Kill Team" Its a offical warhammer 40k format were you play with a single squad. Thats right only one. Thats around $50 across the board for most if not all of the factions. Plus the "bespoke" kill teams (Ones GW makes for kill team) Its less models you need to paint to play and less money you need to give to GW. (not counting paints and books) It fun and much shorter time per game than a full 2000+ points game. As a seasoned 40K player since 6th edition take my word that is waaaaaay easier than lugging a full army around every where and massivly cheaper.
The darkest settings attract the nicest people. I can say I have, on multiple occasions, tried and failed to find angry or rude or just generally unpleasnt people in person to play 40k with just experience what its like over the course of the past 2 years. I have yet to a single one.
One of the funniest explanations of the lore I've seen, and I've been around 40k for a few. In fact my 1st battle was in 1988 so I've seen it all evolve over the years. I really like the reference to sweaty gatekeepers at the end and have had the unfortunate experience of meeting a few in my time. But I've also been in it for 30 years. That's just gonna happen.
Thanks for the video, it was great fun, despite the heresy at the ending.
20:50 Repent! Heretic! :D
The final boss has been slain and you now realize: THE END is the last GAME OVER
1:38 no we’re never wrong and I’ll hear nothing more of the subject from now until eternity, thank you and good day.
I'm new, picked up a leviathan box spent the last 2 weeks or so making the models. I've bought paints and materials but I haven't even started basing/painting yet because I've been so distracted with customizing every model and reading lore. Surprisingly I'm only 200 bucks in right now, which is alot, but not as much as I expected. I think by the time my models are table top ready I'll be 400-600 in.
Whilst its definitely not cheap by any standard, honestly I think I can get a few months worth of fun before I even consider actually playing the game. The 10th edition codices haven't even released yet so I'm gunna be waiting until then at least.
Setting the actual game aside interacting with the community alone is amazing, going online talking in forums, finding niche communities who love successor chapters that no one has ever heard. And just walking into hobby shops and talking for hours to the people there makes the cost all worth it for me.
"... And I thought it was a French thing"
The food I had been eating is now plastered on the walls, like the heads of Fantasy peeps and the mention of Bretonnia or whatever there
"Rule, Bretonnia! Bretonnia rules the plains! Bretonnians never, never, never, will release the reins!"
As a veteran I'm very glad you had an excellent first experience playing in this community, I don't play much anymore but it feels like the douchebags and edgelords have the loudest voices sometimes, but they are a loud minority and most staff members and players you'll meet in the real world are lovely people and I hope more newcomers have the same experience as you.
Remember the days of Imp guard mortars and pinning checks? Those were the dark ages for me, I am almost afraid to play cause Id rather have fun, not a recast of late 9ths flamer steamroller
Thank you for your service
@@AC-hj9tv wrong vet, my man
@@OvercutHood doh
@@AC-hj9tv 😂 The Homer Protects.
OH my gosh I love this video. I just recently started getting into 40k and the amount of depth to everything is just simply astounding... I feel like you quite literally verbalized how I feel right now.
Why? Because I like the models - is the best answer. You get it, well done!
I first saw the Warhammer books and models at my local hobby shop in the mid 80's. I was fasinated, but didn't have the money. About 10 years ago, it popped up on my radar again. Now I had the money, but I don't have the time. So... I listen to the audiobooks during my commute. #ForTheEmporor !
14:19 This is... So beautiful...
The lore is funny. I love the Orks and they are the most ridiculous thing I have every seen and I am deep in many a thing. Also might be worth mentioning, I’ve been in the hobby for just over 20 years as well at this point. I will say that I didn’t care to much about the 40k side of things back when as I was, and still am, a Fantasy man. Not Age of Sigmar, but that which came before which to me had a much more interesting lore, but that’s just my opinion and people are allowed to like AoS more.
The reason I mention this is because I grew up reading the Gotrek and Felix novels and they are what really made me fall in love with all the lore. Later I got into the Commissar Cain books and I still love both sets of books to this day. Gotrek and Felix is just a high fantasy good time with good guys, bad guys and a reoccurring after school villain like character. Commissar Cain is an incredibly interesting way of writing as it’s written as an autobiography of a Hero who, by their own admission, was just running for their life, fighting those enemies that got in his way, waiting for the dust to clear and then being praised as a hero because he accidentally killed the big bad while running. Both are excellent romps and both are available in audiobook form, though don’t buy them from GW as they are terribly overpriced. Just go on Audible and get one a month for 75% less then what GW charges with your free token.
I love the Lore, I love the setting, I hate the company currently, but I still hope to see more of Dah Boyz join dah WAAAGH if it’s what they want. Just so long as they know how much it may cost ‘em in teef.
The last line of the video, Hersey!!!!!! This was great by the way. Hope more people get into Warhammer and Henry Cavill can keep Amazon in line!
9:55 Wombat is the perfect animal to pick for 40k - (W)aste (O)f (M)oney, (B)rains, (A)nd (T)ime
Your intro resonated with me so much! I'm 42 and just discovered 40k about 2 months ago... how the ** did I not know about this??? But now I can say I am deeeep into it( maybe a tiny bit too much according to my wife haha)! I have not yet played a real game but I love assembling an painting to death, it's almost therapeutic.
good ol' war hammer 40k in debt
I got lucky when buying models because I had a buddy who knew the cost inside and out. I ended up with about 2500 pts of Black Templars for about $320. Is is a usable army all at once no but its a ton of fun regardless.
When I imagine a Warhammer 40k battle. Hammer smashed face by cannibal corpse and raining blood and Angel of death by slayer are playing in the background 😂 all mixed together in a beautifully brutal chaotic soup 😂😂
Dear Emperor I love the plastic crack
I’ve been into 40K for nearly a decade now, and I’m just here for the books and the video games. I may, at some point, get one of the new terminator squads for some decoration for my computer desk, and paint them as Iron Hands, of course, because Iron Hands are OBJECTIVELY the coolest loyalist marines and I will suplex anyone directly into an ICU if I am challenged on this. But other than books, fan content and video games, I’m good. I’d rather not have to sell my only remaining leg to play the tabletop.
Raven Guard forever!
As a fan already up to my teeth in the wombat hole (and debt) I always like to see new fans of the hobby explain their perspective on things, and I’m glad you’re enjoying stuff
One minor correction with he scattering of the Primarchs it was later revealed that the Primarch's biological mother had a hand in it as a way to of keeping them away from the Emperor's tyrannical influence. Other than that spot on summary.
Such a stupid piece of new lore tbh.
@@pffpffovich2398 not even. It adds more details to the creation of the Primarchs and it showcases that more people were aware of how tyrannical the Emperor was. Every new peak into the past shows just how much of the Emperor was nothing more than projection and lies.
@@pffpffovich2398 wait for the reason for it though, itll make sense.
I feel she should really have known better than to trust chaos. I get only Big E did any significant research in that area and that perhaps chaos wasn't as active in the past millenia but even so
#blameErebus
@@lordgod9958 thats the thing as far as we know she didn't trust chaos. Though she might have been aware of the deal Big E made with chaos and later went back on.
What kept me away for so long was (A, prohibitively expensive) but also (B, too edgy in an off putting way)
Like no one ever seemed like they were having fun. Tonally it’s a bit of a disaster, yet Warhammer has been lurking on the periphery of my interests for so long and I think it’s slowly winning me over
I guess I appreciate how much irony is there that I never noticed before
As an American who has been into Warhammer since dawn of war in 2001... It's insane that you just now figured out warhammer
Also worth looking into Kill team for just getting into the hobby. Some of the best teams can be made with one roughly ~$60 box. Great for getting your feet wet with the hobby side and a fun game on its own
12:21 It will absolutely not cost a thousand dollars to get an army from scratch. My first army of Necrons is now 4000 points and is still not even close to 1000 dollars, even counting all accessories.
yea it depends on where and what you buy, completely agree
you can equalize the price of the miniatures if you either use a 3d printer or buy from 3rd party stores (i do the ladder one and since i live in Europe its less expensive than in usa, a imperial knight in gw prices costs here 145€ while in usa one costs 175$)
Thank our Dark Lords that you didn't start with Tau or the Ultramarines!
Welcome to the community (you can never leave)
Welcome to the community (you can never leave at any time)
xD