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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In todays video we succumb to the workshop of games and talk about it in a half video essay/ half "I don't know how to write a coherent script" sort of way. Join the dimwit wellington boot man as he tries to reconcile with the lost time that he could have spent finishing the critically acclaimed CRPG Baldur's Gate 3.
Apparently Darktide penance update is out so next vid is probably gonna about that :) Then rogue trader next, although I havent even started it yet so we'll see. - เกม
You aren’t a real 40K fan until you hate Games Workshop.
I still weep over TTS.
Fuck GW.
@@RagnarraI still cant get over filthy frank
HAHAHAHAHA! SO TRUE! No, listen to this guy, people, he's got the secret figured out!
Well I hate them now after what they did recently
6:55 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!
0:59 me when Erebus says anything.
Started with Darktide. Listened to lore. Now painting my first tech priest figure.
I praise the Omnissiah on team chat everytime I fix something in my IT job.
I plan a tatoo with "the Emperor protects" inscription.
Send help.
When I saw your thumbnail, my mind just said: "Ultra Emotional Damage"
40k was, is and always will be a dark satire. Especially of the 80's in Britain. It's 2000ad as a game (though there is a judge dredd game too..) it's deep, inherently silly, it's grim- most people eat corpse startch made from corpses.. and it's absolutely superb.
I got into 40k during high school, when I played the first DoW game. Now look at me, spent 1000 hours on Darktide already and have a Baneblade that I just painted 3 months ago on my table all the time.
I wanted to play the tabletop game but didn't have money so I got into the 3D printer scene, then I didn't have a space for the 3D printer so I got into the video games, and then from the video games I ended up on Tabletop Simulator playing the tabletop game, and now I'm looking at a handful of infantrymen and a tank knowing full-well that even if I wanted to get more and be able to play, it would cost more than I could afford. Across 4 years, they've gotten 3 coats of paint and will never be completed xD
My buddy recently convinced me to go to a game shop. Next thing I knew, I was walking out with a kill teams starter kit and a chaos space marine raptor squad. Now I’m building some Wulfen while waiting for my space wolves terminator squad to come Monday. I don’t know how to stop.
Now Youv ever heard, the Tragedy of Malal the Vanished God? its not a tale GW will tell you that for sure.
Used to play 40k in the late 80s/early 90s.
Drifted away, life, etc.
In a fit of nostalgia, decided to take a look at that old, funny game I used to play...
🤯🤯🤯
Funnily enough, DRG is what pushed me over the edge to start collecting models, ever since the Leagues of Votann dropped.
Emperor's grace, 40k isn't that grutting dark.... can ye nae see the light? HIS Light? Can you not see the joy?
I hope darktide gets an offline patch would suck for this game to just die like the crew one day
lmao savage
Thank the emperor that I had bricky's content to learn about 40ks lore, because if I didn't, I would've been as lost as an ork with a mid fight crisis.
my first dose of 40k was walking past a shop when I was 8 or 9.
that was roughly 20 years ago and hearing people just getting into it makes me truly feel like one of the gang, "one of the lads" you might say, despite not fitting into the typical category.
I have now become the hermit sitting on the hill, watching you all walk the warrior's path, poking as you fall for the oldest tricks in the book.
there will never be enough.
you want the grey.
you must have the grey.
"Unwavering Portrayal of Grimdark" , sigh.😮💨
Darktide is the game that got me to pull the trigger on finally buying models. And now it has its own board game coming out. We've come full circle.
I think the greatest thing about Darktide is that it took some of the most small-time 40k units and made them look and feel awesome and powerful, the guard veteran, sanctioned psyker and priest are low-stat cannon fodder units, and while ogryns have a decent stat line, their models are dated and derpy, and other 40k media always portray them as full potato meat mountains, but the way theyre all represented in Darktide makes them out to be absolute badasses.
My introduction when I started being curious about the franchis was the "Children of the Omnissiah Extended" video on TH-cam. I now too possess a box of overpriced plastic catching dust on a shelf.
I think my first introduction was army men stop motions by „The General Moe“ when I was like 10. in many vids he talked about warhammer 40k. Fast forward to a few days ago, after seeing some meme vids a few months ago, I thought: hey, dawn of war winter assault looks pretty cool. A few days of committing orc genocide in skirmish mode later, my Xmas wish is gonna be the newest cadian shocktroopers patrol pack.
Darktide was my start into the 40k universe and now I’m hooked, but just on the games thankfully lol. Maaaan that fuckin MUSIC tho. Jesper Kyd went SUPER hard.
Special shout out to Mechanicus composer Guillaume David as well. So so good.
Years ago, I was out with my girlfriend on my birthday, went to a game store, and bought my first model, a Tyranid hive tyrant. I told the shop owner that I wasn't really planning on getting any more, and that it would be my only model just so I could own one. He told me that that was what everyone says.
Two and a half years later, I have a 2000 point necron army, half built and being slowly painted, a small tyranid army, a small space marine army, and half of my Leviathan Box that I preordered is still sitting on the sprues. Help me, I'm in too deep
As an old Star Wars or Star Trek fan once said "You have to love the franchise though you are not in love with it, but there comes a time when you have to say goodbye"
Darktide got me to read Eisenhorn, and Eisenhorn made me a fan. My impression of the franchise had been that it was so grimdark and absurd as to be ridiculous. Seeing the more grounded, everyday side of the universe really let me wrap my head around it as a setting I could be invested in.
there is a certain sadness in watching people joining a thing as it dies. as much as 40k fans enjoy their GW-induced angst, their corporate executives may just have over-stepped their customer disdain. not to worry, the executives in question will be fine as their personal wealth is in no way tied to corporate profitability; but the company itself is rapidly going the way of disney, and notable video game makers. GW is already at the stage where executives and their shills are pushing away their hordes of zombie-like supporters telling them to leave the game...
Bg3 will always be there for you. Give in to Rogue. Play an officer and say HI to Sister Argenta for me.
Played Fire Warrior at babysitters as a youth. Got Warhammer Dark Crusade for PC cus cool packaging, listened to Warhammer Lore for fun, started watching builds, ended up getting first mini set last September.
Me :I am something of a warhammer fan myself
Games workshop : I got a great idea female custodian am I right guys
Also me: I am gonna put some dirt in your eyes
Games workshop : 😢 forgive me please have mercy
Also me : gonna cry you want forgiveness listen to the true fans
me a 40k fan having this be the first video of yours i have watched.
gooood, we will watch your career with great intrest.
Good to know I’m not the only person in their 20’s just getting into 40k
Realising I’m no longer a fan and have a shitload of plastic crack to resell.
rip. i never played. why are you no longer a fan? is it the new "changes"?
@@theancientsamof course its the new changes. Most stupid thing ever. Destrying the hole thing. Especislly when you realised and hear the rumors that it is Amazon that forced this into the contract with GW
@@theancientsamMany reasons. Constant price creep priced me out of the hobby despite having an army that’s 90% second hand stripped down and restored. Codexes designed specifically to power creep and spat on the concept of balance. The changes be damned - I’m an Ork player. They’re sexless space mushrooms in the setting.
I only recently started getting into 40k after they revealed the gameplay for space Marine 2 a few months ago. I was watching one of my favorite TH-camrs react to it and thought it looked really cool. So o decided to look up a lore video so i could understand what was actually happening in the story when i got to play the game. I thought to myself "i love mgs and that has a super complex story, so this shouldn't be that hard to comprehend". Two hours later i was still trying to understand why the god damn super toads wouldn't just give the poor space Egyptians some god damn sunscreen, but from then on i knew i was hooked. Still haven't bought any minis yet because im scared my dumbass self would fuck up the painting but yeah im officially in stage one of the Warhammer 40k fan infection.
I'd *heard* about it for a while, but what got me into it was TTS, followed up by the Ciaphus Cain series.
>Even though you haven't Baldur's Gate 3 yet
No need for personal attacks sir
“Cries in heavy flamer.”
The democracy chaos space marine had me sweating
The "look familiar" HD2 reference gave me a good chuckle
For me it started with lore videos. I got into it properly after The Bricky Videos
0:27
Where did you get that SFM of that Khorne Chaos marine with the Helldivers 2 opening dialogue from? Thats amazing
as a 40K fan with only digital games i consider this an absolute win
I realized I was a fan/addict when I thought to myself: "I physically don't have the space to store another model!" and proceeded to buy 3 more Combat Patrol boxes.
Oof
🔥
Poor Warhammer.
As if the Sisters of Silence/Battle, the female Assassins, the Imperial Guard female soldiers and the Eldar/Tau female warriors aren't enough.
We fans must respond to this intolerable corruption like this: Waaagh!
There are so many amazing strong female characters in Warhammer that everyone likes because they are beautiful and well written.
This other stuff is just giving the dog the bone and then everything else follows.
Hadn't even heard of Warhammer 40k until i saw Syama Pedersen's Astartes and ive binge watched 40k lore since then.
Leaving the fandom, actually. Thanks GW. You're right. I won't be missed. Neither will you, GW. But your creation...you've destroyed.
Dawn of war got me hooked. I love 40k for the same reason, it is a sprawling fascinating setting that isn’t as grimdark as portrayed.
Boy did you pick a bad time to drop in.
Not really new edition a bunch of new models and tons of creators and events probably picked the best time
@@Wingsoficarus9868 With the addition that everyone loves: Female Custodians. I saw so many comments over the internet of people who definitely want to stay and buy the new content.
The emotional rollercoaster it’s all part of the fun, like someone else said here, you’re not a true fan of 40K until you hate GW
If I had 2c everytime "fans" boycotted GW ...well I'd have enough money to buy the new custodes boxed set. Actually I can't because it already sold out after a few hours
@@jcus006 No its not, why lie?
I’ve heard of warhammer and bought the dark tide game on xbox, but never got into the lore or story bc idk where to start and there’s just so much to learn.
Vermintide 1 is what got me I played when It came out like oooo gory shooty game and I played it and haven't been able to find it for a few years after till I played darktide and realized....
IM ADDICTED
As one guy once out it
“Hulk Hogan is fighting the devil in a church. Hulk Hogan is wearing a Volkswagen, and the church is the size of Ohio and is in space.”
I realized i am a 40k fan when i (for soem reasom) craved to start buying and reading the horus heresy, i mena the moment i got my paycheck i had to buy the first 5 books.
6:20 its cool to see I'm not the only one doing this. I grew up wanting to do nothing but pvp, playin unreal tournament, cod and Destiny etc. and all that fun stuff. But i dunno, one day that stuff didn't feel the same way it did and now i want nothing but good stories and characters and challanges like Mass effect, SoulsLikes and niches like KCD. Don't get me wrong tho i still do all that it just isn't my main thing anymore. Love the video!
Some fresh blood has bound themself with Warhammer’s Plastic Crack, Praise the Dark Gods!
Realizing 40k sucks so you stick with 30k instead
Yeah, pretty much.
Apparently the slow descent into madness was made worse by the incursion of Eldritch Horror’s from another realm of existence. But that might have been reconned after all it happened a century or two after the Heresy ended.
1:13 I think the candles will smell like:
T’au: lavender or yellow flowers like daffodils
Tyranids: dogshit litterally.
Space marines: like if an old folks home discovered scented candles and those things you plug in the wall
Slannesh: either GW have found a common somber childhood memory and put it in the candle, otherwise it will probably just smell like burning as a troll or lavender because of its colour.
The gaurd: either fresh meat or gunpowder
Word of advice: Watch Arbitor Ian’s video about clickbait in the Fanbase. This community is almost as infuriating as the company they hate and he explains why.
i got introduced to it when i was 18, through a new friend. and my and my buddies being lovers of sci-fi. loved 40k and the outrageous crazy crap that is 40k. and already being "humanity first" sci-fi nerds, we loved the imperium and immediately accepted the emperor. next thing I know, on the daily, we're making jokes or "for the emperor" jokes or references. Tbh, was never into the models though. Just isn't my thing, especially with the price tag and seeing how games workshop is XD
let me make something clear Dan abnett has single-handedly held 40K together for the past 25 years and there's nothing that you can say to change that that man is 40k that man and Toby Longworth on Audible is 98% of the reason why I still follow Warhammer 40K I no longer purchase their official models because it's stupid and I have a resin 3D printer I no longer deal with 98% of Games Workshop bulshit however I will chil out all my hard-earned balloons every time they drop New Media I'm talking I will instantly purchase it without a question everything I mean even the books that some people would consider to be bad are phenomenal Double Eagle phenomenal Titanic is phenomenal first and only phenomenal endless war phenomenal Horus Rising phenomenal need I go on he only drops bangers
Warhammer tyranids… Helldivers tyranids
Also, is a real wrong time to join with GW nuking it's self with woke bull.
Am I the only person who‘s 14 and whose first warhammer game was dawn of war winter assault 2 days ago? My first imtroduction was „The General Moe“.
Used to be Star Wars fan, Used to be MTG fan….used to be Warhammer fan. They got our hobby too soon.
What the hell does the "scent of the great devourer" smell like
not anymore. not now. they went woke.
They didn't
Too bad GW went idiotically woke, and ruining the 40K universe
grimdark... its not inclusive enough have some female custodes
Fck, that's so messed up
I first heard about 40k from a friend of my fathers when i was like 10, tldwrite. In college, i heard there was a warhammer store near me, and now i love warhammer. Fuck GW.
I got a infected with 40k when my parents wouldn't buy me the cool blue space tank or the robot skeletons at the mall at the age of 6. It took 12 years but now I'm wasting enough money on plastic men to make up for the lost time :P
There was a screenshot going around where a guy said he read about 10 Warhammer books and decided he knows enough to participate in fan discussions, and tried to chat on a 40K fan forum. "I was promptly told that I don't know shit and that I should shut my heretical piehole"
Unfortunately, the meme culture is honestly how the majority of basic knowledge of the world gets passed around
@@sloshed-rat Yeah if you just repeat the same handfull of jokes that are being made for decades you will often fit right in. Bonus points if you spread false information through them.
That’s 1/3rd of the Horus Heresy series there’s a lot of books
I've only read the emperor's gift. There is nothing else. Only grey knights.
Based
One of us, one of us, one of us
One of us, one of us, one of us
But what if… I wasn’t us?
For the Emperor. FOR THE EMPEROR. FOR THE MOTHER FKENG EMPEROR.
One of us One of us One of us
@@Thisisabucketboi IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE SECRETLY ALPHARIUS?
For me it was:
"Huh these Necron guys look cool, I wonder what their deal is?"
*One hour of lore later*
"...So you're telling me that everything is happening in this setting all because the giant space toads didn't want to invent sunscreen?"
That is legit how I got into Warhammer 2 years ago
What?
Dear God warhammer is too confusing, i will never understand the lore
@@FriendKevin majorkill is great for beginners
@@Hunter-zf7rt got it, thanks
@@FriendKevin no problem,he does a interesting scenes of humour
for me it all started when I watched that god damn Astartes short movie. it infected me afterwards
For me I think it's called god is real and he hated us
For me it was looking for cool templars images on google for a wallpaper and found a futuristic version of holy warriors
And later my rts addiction made me found Dawn of war 1 with all of its expansions included
Shame GW took it down. Then again hating GW is part of being a 40K fan. Heres hoping they go under and the IP gets taken over by fans.
And then the hatred grows when you find out GW coerced the creator to work for them under the shadow of copyright lawsuits, bullied him until he quit, made him sign an NDA on all the stuff he did for them while there, and now he's been forced to abandon any astartes sequels he would have again due threat of copyright
@@epicureanmaster That's not true at all. You're spreading misinformation.
Am i the only new one who got in just to build countless little men that will never see a board but get played with EVERY night
😂😂😂 Welcome to the club 😂
Hey friend,
Yes
Right in front of my box of un opened, unpainted primaris inceptors
*me looks down on my boxes pile of shame* pah
That moment you get into Warhammer 40k, take years to build and paint a full army, only to realise that there's actually a game to play those miniatures
it took me six months to get to 5,500 points fully painted.
@@ThePigeon5734 let me guess, fellow custodes enjoyer
@@ThePigeon5734 It's almost taking me that amount of time to finish my combat patrol
@@alextruecustodian6174 Nope, Templars.
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Reclusiarch Grimaldus, my lord... Rest assured I'm kitbashing your model to look significantly better and repainting it after my last not great attempt.
that's such a great point about the world being so big you get to pick and choose what to interact with. I've never really cared for Space Marines and spent most of my time with Warhammer reading up on Necromunda and playing it and actively ignoring all the large armored, tower-sized tanks and other shenanigans.
Yeah. Necromunda and the underhives are crazy enough. I'm all for all the facets of the fight, but I can't say no to a good underhive enthusiast.
6:16 - Nobody tell this bloke that Nurgle deamons actually like devastating neglect since these guys live on entropy.
Give him a good krumpin
Yup he has fallen under the grandfather's spell
Beasts of Nurgle don't. They are like excited puppies that want to play with you. Unfortunately their playing leaves you dead. They are then sad for a moment because their new playmate has gone still and boring. Then spot someone else to play with and excitedly bound bound towards them....... I'm not joking, this is their personality in lore.
I went from "yeah dawn of war is cool, so is the lore" 4 years ago to "this is my custom sisters of battle order, their living saint is resurrected jean d'arc"
Based
Ahem . . . So is there any thing else you want to share about this home brew of yours ( it sounds really interesting)🤨
my favorite custom 40k oc I've seen someone make was an ork warboss based on Oda Nobunaga.
@@zeehero7280 Kuruumpin jikan!
@@elitreat6759 They are all *violently* French. (Meaning; murderously bipolar with ever evolving mood swing triggers.)
Welcome, brother.
*You can never leave*
Unless they like femstodes... Those "people" can leave and never ever return.
"Brother I am pinned here!"
ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY... WAIT WE HAVE A SPARE DREADNOUGHT SARCOPHAGUS WAIT RIGHT HERE
Nice try.
I can.
**proceeds to build MG Gunpla**
@@YukitoOnlinetau
Leaving a beast of nurgle immobile on a shelf for many years is something they are totally fine with...
Do you remember the scene from dawn of war where the space marines are fighting the orcs for some hill? It was glorious.
the intro cutscene. It still holds up
Ah yes, Dawn of War intro: A normal game of king of the hill.
Ah yes DoW music videos, what got me into 40K.
DoW 1 is what got me into 40k in the first place. Then I kinda just started consuming lore at a frightening pace, then books, then watching hundreds of hours of lore videos, then . . .
I haven't gotten into the actual tabletop, partly because I'd have a hard time to find anyone to play with, partly because the whole painting miniatures thing puts me off, partly because of the outrageous cost, and partly because I despise GW and don't want to give them more money than I already have.
Imperial Guard, Necrons, and Eldar were my favorites in DoW. IG because I like the idea of all these regular dudes being up against all this horrific shit, Necrons because they are ridiculously OP in the game in my opinion, and Eldar in multiplayer because I can be annoying as fuck with them.
"Oh, you think you've got me cornered and all you have to do is break through my defences?" *teleports my entire base away with the webway*
I also tended to spam out an entire river of fire prism tanks, so many that I'd have to jump them over obstacles to get them out faster because they clogged the only entrance to my base.
Also, with Necrons: "Oh, you killed my entire army? Well, let me teleport in a new army. Oh, and here's my Necron Lord with the resurrection orb. Now I have double the army. Unit cap, what's that?"
Dawn of War will always be the best ambassator of the Warhammer IP
Chaos corruption always finds a way to seep into the masses
First time I laid eyes on a space marine It was love at first sight, of course I was like 15 and didn't realize there was more to W40K than just Dawn of War, so imagine my enthusiasm when I realized there was a whole world of little plastic men waiting to be painted -I've always wondered just how much heavy lifting W40K video games did for the franchise.
A lot
@@codyvandal2860 I bet you feel really smart for that huh? 😊
As somebody who's interest was peaked purely because of video games, I would say he was giving you an answer. So defensive. @unarmored9973
@@StuckTrippin No I'm pretty dang sure he was just correcting the use of "alot" instead of "a lot" my guy. 😆
@@unarmored9973 read your OP. Unless you edited it out, you never even say that word.
If you ever thought that current 40k is crazy,you have to see first edition 40k
I think the current generation couldn't handle Rogue Trader, not with the actual Female Space Marines, over the top 80's British humour and the space marine poop ritual.
I've seen a little bit and hot dang! Half elf space marines!
@@lupisvolk2420 Trust me, the fists still do the poop thing. I'm selling the videos on the noosphere right now. Only teef accepted, no refunds.
@@lupisvolk2420i literally learned that space marines do shit and do eat demons just to spite them last night
Was that back when all Space Marines where complete arseholes?
Me thinking at first glance that Warhammer lore is too nerdy even for me. Then that first bite of a Warhammer game or seeing the Adric in your feed and thinking "Why not" or seeing a Warhammer audiobook and the cover and synopsis looks kind of cool. Then you're unironically reading the wiki and getting *another* book because you got the first book in a series so want to continue it. By then realizing its too late and It's got you hooked..
I first heard about 40k in my first year of HS. I was watching sovietwomble's vietnam video and heard "MORE DAKKA". I looked it up and immediately dismissed it as "nerd shit", even though at the time I thought Ravadil's Quest was the funniest thing ever. I only really got into 40k 2 years ago and I've gotten enough brainrot to become a demon prince of nurgle.
my first taste of 40k was at comic-con when DOW came out back in 04. i didn't much care about the video games or table top but i got hooked on the books.
Ah, the Kronus campaign. I remember that war like it was yesterday. *Notices calendar* Oh yeah, it WAS yesterday.
same here
we are the same person, rock and stone for the emperor
There actually is a space dwarf faction now, the Leagues of Votann
@@ViashinoWizard ( fixed ) There actually is a space dwarf faction *again*, the Leagues of Votann
Rock and Stone
Did I hear a rock and stone?!
Careful leaving that Beast of Nurgle unattended and unloved. It might become a rotfly.
Born to late to play the best version of 40K (2ND Edition) when it was popular 💀
Born just in time to play great warhammer co-op video games when they're popular 🤩
C'mon..... surely 3rd Ed? True grimdark 👌
Man, I still play 3rd and 4th edition with friends to this day, and use it to get the tabletop interested friends playing, it's fucking great.
My dad has had the hobby since the 80’s, (painting minis and reading the books for both 40k and fantasy) so my fate was sealed the moment i was born. Nowadays most of what i read is his book collection, i paint minis myself and i can now also show him stuff like trailers and gameplay from darktide and total war warhammer 3
"Buy Rogue trader even though you haven't finished BG3 yet" He knows all my secrets....
7:48 same lmao, only warhammer I really enjoy is darktide, space marine 1, and hopefully 2🤞
Try Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2, it stands on its own as a very good tactical space combat game
@-COSMIC- Sm2 is very good
Funnily enough, I escaped the "buying models" bit, as between the lore (back when GW still gave a damn) and the video games, I find myself rather content.
I print models from time to time but I’ve been a major lore guy for decades now.
The mechanicus game is what popped my cherry. The silliness is what finally got me to break out my wallet for the minis.
Literally watching this after painting my first box of plastic crack.
Rogue Trader made me adore the setting and after actually watching a few tutorials and having some super helpful conversations with the dude at my local gamestore I ended up having an awesome first paint experience --- my Raven Guard are looking fresh.
Awesome hobby to pick up; especially as someone who came from D&D I have lots of models to paint and practice on as well!!
Stoked to be getting into the hobby 🖤
Ooof, talk about bad timing
The idiotic thing is "I play a 40K video game so I'm going to buy a model and leave it unassembled in a box on my shelf" is GW's main sales strategy these days.
Ello folks, I realise this vid has dropped with poor timing in regards to a silly controversy that I've recently been made aware of. That said, try not to embarass yourselves in the comments, thats my job ;)
too late! this was not pinned and i have already left like 6 comments that would make a conservative blush
"Realizing you are a Warhammer fan, just in time to realize that you are no longer a Warhammer fan"
As a person who played with green soldiers as a child i see warhammer 40k the next upgrade to my inner child
Welcome to the club, I joined at 13 years old and thousands of dollars later I regret nothing. Also GW sucks and should fire all their game designers for 10th edition.
Try looking at a map of the warhammer universe then wonder what the hell am I doing this for? The implication is that I have neither a sense of direction nor full grasp of how bloody insane the High lords are to think they are capable of controlling this Imperium. The scope of it is enough to justify why they act like toddlers when someone is doing a better job than them. Good luck you are going to need it.
I have this creed thing about purging the heretic.. im terribly sorry. Im sure you understand. BLAM
I'm in this video, and I do not like it. But regardless, it seems I've picked an inopportune time to dabble in the franchise.
Nah, the online fans are just Like This. For the real Warhammer experience go to your local game store (ideally an indie and not an official GW store; GW stores are very bad about hard-selling newbies) and ask for a tutorial game. I guarantee you that the people who actually play the game aren't letting a dumb argument on Twitter hold them back from playing with their toys.