What Does THE SHINING's Final Image Actually Mean?
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- "I'm sorry to differ with you, sir, but you are the caretaker. You have always been the caretaker."
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Remember the line..."sir you have always been here"
Its confirmation of that.
Strick nine maybe that was just part of the hotel’s manipulation of Jack, start playing mind games with him so he starts believing it
I think in that way too. Now Jack Is part of the hotel.
Or ill sell my soul for a drink n loyd appears
He's there for the continental breakfast lol
@@AlpineStudiosInc lol key and peele. Hilarious skit.
I always just thought that it meant that he’s trapped there, forever a part of the hotel
yeah but why 1921?
Because that day in 1921 was the Hotels energy High point. Therefore all the spirits are goading him to join them in their eternal party. Boredom is not nearly an incentive as a fun never ending party. I've seen this hotel, and if your in Estes Park when winter hits, you aren't leaving for 6 months.
The date is irrelevant. He is just another victim of the hotel. Trapped with the rest of them.
Me too
I agree
I have a theory that the hotel adds new faces of its victims in the form of a group photo from long time ago. Like a trophy.
Makes you wonder how many people in that photo before Jack were a victim. Spooky stuff!
Ahhh I like that theory
I think so too, jack dying as a murderer in the overlook hotel became one of its ghosts
So do you think the new victims take Jack's place in the photo? Like Jack just becomes one of the guests after the new "caretaker" has sold their soul to the hotel? Or not...
@@justinhayes2194 something like that
Can we all agree that Shelly Duvall gave an astounding performance!
Kubrick put her through hell. Her mental health is a serious concern. She is not well. Sad really.
Sasso really sad 😔
They royally fucked her up. In fact some of the things they did is borderline abuse
@bred toaster yeah. And at the expense of her well being and sanity. Have you seen the way she looks and talks now?
one of the worst performances I have ever seen. She even got nominated for the Razzie Awards 1981 for that very performance.
He sold his soul at the bar and from that moment he became possessed by the same evil who took those before. The picture shows that his soul is now trapped inside the hotel.
Best explaination of the movie, by far, good job, ty!
'What shall it be, Mr Torrance?"
"well.....Loyd...give me the dog that bit me"
ok....Bourbon on the rocks"
( see how the bartender, loyd already knew, what he wanted to drink-give away)
and why 1921 year??
@@carlostejada1479 idk it’s a mind fu**
@@BasedNj
it's 100 years from now 2021///1921
I think it symbolized how he became part of the hotel for eternity, like all the other victims, murderers, ghosts.
This was always my take. Jack wasnt part of the hotel until the events of the film, but time as the good Doctor says is wibbly wobbly.
Thats what i got out of it. I think this video is incorrect.
Exactly how i always thought about it. He died there doing horrible things and now he is trapped there too.
That’s what I thought to.
Yes. And to be honest I felt it was fairly obvious. Whenever I hear other theories I get confused as if I’m not thinking more abstractly.
I thought the ending was pretty clear. Even the ghosts tell you. Mr.Torrance has always been there. He always comes back. Clearly he was attached to the hotel and every generation of a different life he gets guided back there and the slaughter is repeated.
agreed
Indeed. That was one hell of a long intro just to get the point where the answer is tossed on our lap by the very director.
IF kUBRICK WANTED TO DO A MOVIE ON THE BAD RELATIONSHIPS inside the human family , failed father against brilliant son, then the presence of torrance at the last image means that this family problem comes from the beginning of times and will follow ever. it happenend too in the Moon Watcher family.
Makes sense to me
How can a Ghost raise a family then??
Doctor Sleep confirms that Jack's soul is trapped in the hotel.
Sorry, I don't really know much about these movies/books, is that a sort of sequel?
@@doriis009 yes
@@doriis009 all the books is connected read the dark tower
I love pens
Yeah, definitely read it. But whatever you do, don’t watch the horrible film adaptation 😂
@@onnixcarmichele3911 I watched it, it wasn't terrible. Just really bad. Also imo people should watch anything that would catch their interest. As a kid I used to watch really bad horror movies, that's how I learned to appreciate the actually good ones.
Truly a masterpiece. The genius of Kubrick is he left it to the viewer to interpret. There is no wrong answer.
The problem started when he talked about the ending, he explained that it was about reincarnation.
That's actually called "laziness". A director has an ending in mind and tries to put it on the screen. Many try to be subtle, with the result that the message doesn't come through. Then they realize that they did a bad job of expressing the ending so they say "it's open to interpretation" because it keeps the viewer from pointing out that their ending doesn't follow from the circumstances of the movie.
Having an ending that's ambiguous is fine, if the alternatives follow from the facts of the movie. None of these theories do, so putting the 1921 photo in is really something that should be under "goofs" on its imdb page.
This version is different from the original book
Stephen King actually hated the movie. Stanley basically gave him the finger and went on his way.
@@cleveque agree👍
The hotel is a depository of souls and the last picture shows the trophys that it has accumulated.
That's what I've always thought. He's now one of them.
Cindy Jones for me that is what I take it’s claimed him and that’s the trophy cabinet and it has him forever
the gist of what I always thought
Gooble Gobble Gooble Gobble One of Us
In the book, you realize the hotel is trying to claim Danny the whole time. The movie was altered so that this focus was of anyone who died therein.
That’s how I always felt about it , plus he made movies so different in scenes and actions that unless he was alive to tell us thought process we will never know , but will debate it
It means that the hotel has claimed another soul. The photo(s) are/is its trophy room. Those are all the souls that it has claimed and they now are stuck in the hotel, forever bound to the cursed place.
Best theory yet. And probably the correct one.
VoiceOfTheEmperor that’s what I always thought
But the hotel was build ready in 1909. How many people are there in the picture? It doesn't really make sense that so many people died in the hotel without it is mentioned.
VoiceOfTheEmperor but the black guy, isn't in the picture.. it's a good theory thought.
This is the one theory I've (read) heard that really makes the most sense. That actually makes the movie even better for me. Thanks.
For me, this is the greatest horror movie ever.
Yeah I love this movie
I totally agree
Based
Most people agree.
I hate gore & zombies
I liked it at first but after reading the book the film is awful in comparison they changed it too much and very few of the changes were good
In the movie, jack says. I’d give my God damned soul for a drink. I think the. Picture is an illustration of jack selling his soul to the hotel and it’s evil and now he’s trapped forever.
Kubrick is a fu**ing genius, he left it so that the viewer has to interpret it their own way. So basically, we will really never find a logical answer.
That's what I think. It's at this point that Jack is completely taken over, and then all the people in the ballroom appear, and also Mr. Grady, who Jack seems to know.
Shit! I would have never noticed that
I mean come on Jack says he'd give his damned soul for a drink. Then a bartender in "red jacket" appears with more liquor than any former alcoholic could stand. And tells him "Mister Torrance" his credit is always good. Temptation is a dangerous thing 😡
marco tanne why not?
This was completely covered in the book. The hotel was alive but lived outside space/time continuum. If you exist in it's realm at one time, you exist in it at all times. When Jack died, the hotel accepted Jack into it's realm. Even though he was accepted in 1977 in time as we know it, he now exists in it in 1921 as well.
Does that mean all in that photo died at one time in the hotel? 😮
I thought the shining was '80 not '77
@@shojaejlali1290 movie may be '80. Book was 1977.
@@KayInMaine I believe so, yes.
Gotcha. Makes sense. @@Gunner192
i always thought the buttler was the devil and the end movie image was him in hell and that was a photo of previous people who made deals with the devil
Good theory, good one.
Sounds even darker and more epic :)
That’s what I thought too!!
He even said He would give his soul for a drink and he had a drink
He’s doing the as above so below pose in the picture. Same pose as the satanic baphomet
I feel that the photo at the end suggests Jack’s spirit is now tied to the hotel.
I also would like to add that the bathroom scene with Delbert Grady is so chilling. He goes from the obliging bathroom attendant to sinister killer so quickly when he speaks of “correcting” his wife and daughters.
My buddy said it best. Eventually, everyone joins the party
A hole isa hole
@@suburban7326 Prison in a nutshell:
The book helped me understand the movie. To me, one of the greatest movies of all time, especially because of the performance of Jack Nicholson. Classic.
So what does it actually mean?
@@saurabhbisht2668 it means: read the book
The book helped you to understand the movie? The movie was a piece of crap because Kubrick refused to let King write the screenplay opting instead for his own ridiculous ideas. The movie doesn’t reflect the book in any way, shape or form. Jack Nicholson is so over the top from frame 1 his performance becomes no more than a caricature resembling the Joker.
Shelley Duvall was fantastic as well.
Yes classic book on its own and a classic movie on its own. They made a tv movie screen written by King himself w Steven Weber as jack and Rebecca demornay. And Dean Stockwell as the lead ghost well it just wasn't the same Steven used a croquet mallet and he doesn't watch the boilers and the hotel explodes in the end
The book hints towards the hotel itself being alive. So it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suggest that the hotel added him to that picture on the wall once Jack died while doing the hotels bidding.
Hmmmm, that’s a good theory right there.
It doesn't hint, it specifically states it. The hotel is alive but exists in a realm outside of time as we know it. Once you exist in the hotels realm at any time, you exist in it at all time. The hotel as a living entity was conjured into existence during great party the night of July 4th, 1921. When the hotel looks into our world & time as we know it, it does so through a window of July 4th 1921.
It would be unreasonable because hotels aren’t living things, you idiot.
@@Gunner192 Agree. Also a very Stephen King vehicle - the thing is possessed, and multi-dimensional. Like It, the Tommyknockers, Needful Things, etc.
But the film is NOT the novel. For Kubrick, it was merely a jumping off point.
The photo probably represents all the people who died in the hotel, and he is the newest guest.
Maybe. But why the year 1921?
Bruce Payne probably the year the hotel opened.
@@crippledcrusader1321 that was 1909.
Chandrachud Das eh, I just think it’s a neat idea. Adds to the whole mystery of the hotel.
The guy with his hand on Jack's shoulder in the photo is Woodrow Wilson apparently
I’m here on July 4, 2021 … the 100th Anniversary
I don't think he was reincarnated. I think that he was someone who had murderous tendencies to begin with, and the hotel could sense his weaknesses and use them to slowly drive him insane. Then the evil murderous spirit that existed there took over and possessed him. The photo symbolised the fact that he had become one of them and was absorbed into it, to join the ranks as yet another evil spirit that would continue to influence those living to murder and make the hotel stronger.
Sharon DeMedeiros thank you for explaining the ending without all the needless complex BS.
Sharon DeMedeiros Yeah he was always crazy
Don't forget, he had already hit Danny in the past, in a drunken rage. His violent tendencies were already within him. The hotel used them...
Taekwon. Kubrick is guessing. He did not write the book and Stephen King never explained it.
I was replying to your comment about reincarnation. No where in the book did it mention reincarnation nor did Stephen King ever explain the meaning. He wanted people to interpret it their own way and reincarnation was Kubrick's interpretation.
This movie freaked me out when I was a child I hated Jack until I was old enough to understand his brilliant work on screen.
Brilliant? Barely... watch again maybe... maybe you'll appreciate the actors of today.
@@no-vo9bm yes brilliant he is one of my favorite actors . U have a problem with that
@@nippy3126 I have a problem with the shining and its cast:)
@@no-vo9bm then you lack taste, sweetheart
@@JohnDoe-dj3lw the only thing I lack compared to you is the will to persuade myself I like trash
I feel so lucky being one of the people who watched it in the teathers back in 1980. I was just 9 years old and it was one of the best things i've experienced and 39 years later I still can't feel the same emotion i felt with that movie
I watched it at a retro movie theater in college (including A Clockwork Orange, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Full Metal Jacket, etc.) Theater studies in films by masters, especially Stanley Kubrick films ... Owned it by buying it on DVD!
It seemed like it was on TV every week in the 1980s.
Awwe
I always just thought the house broke him down, used him, and then entrapped him forever.
*Hotel, not house :)
Right you are.
And, ditto! Always nice to see someone else who "gets" the simple ending of this movie! :)
No, that was his marriage.
That’s what I thought he just became part of the hotel as a trapped soul that’s why he was in the photo.
Jack is Jack. When he enters the hotel however he is instantly possessed by the ghost. We then see him as the murderous caretaker back in the 20's the whole movie. You never know what Jack actually looks like. In the beginning of the movie, it's only the car we see going down the road. We first see him already in the hotel and Jack has now been possessed by the ghost. We never actually get to see what Jack really looks like. We are watching the man in the picture use Jack's body throughout the movie. Unbeknownst to us until we see him in that 1920's picture in the end.
Samuel Burdette I like this
This makes the most sense to me.
Your "Jack was possessed from the moment he set foot in the hotel" theory could make sense, if Jack didn't act like a relatively normal person initially and take quite a long time to actually become crazy. The whole point of the scene where Jack is screaming in agony and says "I must be losing my mind" is to highlight that Jack is still himself, and fighting to keep it that way.
TH3GPS excellent point. However, just because we see Jack as the spirit doesn't mean it had control yet. It had only made the connection. And as you stated, Jack was only relatively normal. We first see him with his family in the car after he had entered the hotel. He was most definitely a bit odd with Danny and Wendy in that scene. Especially the, "See? He saw it on the television", line. Of course he tried to fight it, but it was inevitable that he would be overtaken. The whole point of showing us the picture in the end was to inform us we were watching the spirit inside Jack the entire movie.
Well that could be just how he acts. I mean we're talking about a guy who dislocated his son's arm in a drunken state not too long ago. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that he was just an odd guy to begin with.
I’ve always interpreted that final shot as signifying Jack’s spirit becoming one with the Overlook, and fulfilling his destiny of being the permanent caretaker. In Kubrick’s version, I believe it was the director’s original intention to suggest Jack’s fate had been predestined, an assumption further verified by the scene in in the hospital that was later deleted in the final cut of the film. I suppose Kubrick choose the eerie, ominous slow-zoom at the film’s conclusion because this is a horror film, not a detective film. Leaving the ending open for interpretation makes the film that much more efficient at what it’s attempting to accomplish; that being to scare the hell out of people in a way they’ve never been scared before.
^This right here^!
I do think it was Kubricks intention to leave it up for interpretation what it actually means and that there isn't one correct answer to this question
youtubesucks well and now I just realised we were talking about the final shot only and not the whole story haha sorry got carried away a bit
Always thought the final shot meant that he was reincarnated from the original caretaker..."you've ALWAYS been the caretaker...I know...because I've ALWAYS been here"...
birdsfan57 that's what I thought.
When you commit murder in the hotel or are a victim of murder in it you are fated to become a a permanent part of the hotel's history. As the twins say, "Come play with us... forever and ever and ever."
I think the ending just means, once Jack’s dead, like Mr. Grady, he’s now a part of the hotel. He’s now a part of the party that’s been going on since 1921.
Pappy Tron yes, but typos are funny.
Perfect conclusion. I like it. Makes good sense.
Yes...But
Yeah it’s cool and shit but why the chef is not in the picture? I mean... He also died in the hotel 🤔..
Rafael Nuñez but he wasn't possessed
I believe jack is possessed by the original caretaker of the hotel and the cycle will continue on as long as the hotel stands
I think in the book instead of freezing to death, Jack gets killed when the boiler explodes and destroys the hotel
@@ismu34 yep and also in the book Jack truly and deeply loves his wife and son unlike in the movie to the point where unlike in the movie he's able to resist the hotel till the very end even at one point fighting back against the hotel and telling Danny to run before he loses complete control again in one last attempt to save his son from the monster the hotel was turning him into
That was also my initial theory. It's like a passed down thing. Grady's soul possessed him but Grady was controlling him and doing everything possible for Jack to agree to do it
@@jrcspiderman2003 did danny die?
when was the last time that something like that happened in the movie?? the year before??
I saw it a while ago
*My Mom took us kids to see this we were 11 so it was fine she didn’t realize that there was a naked lady in the movie.....that was the real scary part* .:.
My brothers and I were between 8-12 we were staying at a hotel next to a Drive in and although we couldn't hear too well that scene scared the f outta me lol
My girlfriend cried when she saw her
There’s always a naked woman in a Stanley Kubrick movie.
you must be us american.
Wow, A naked lady, how scandalous!
Does anybody have the suspicion that jacks character might also have the shining? Alcohol was a way the spirits dull out those who shine. The drink drinks you. Doctor sleep leaves alot of clues to whats going on.
Yes, Jack has it. He's not aware of it. That's why he drinks. To turn off his sensitivity to the world. Danny does the same thing when he gets older.
Brilliant. That makes a lot of sense to me tbh
Wendy also has a trace of it, which is why she is able to see spirits when the hotel has grown strong towards the end. Danny is so powerful because he inherited his power from both parents.
That would explain why Danny and Abbra both have it. In the books they confirm that he actually is her uncle. Her mom is his half sister by Jack, so they both could have inherited the shine from him
So was Lloyd Jack’s father?
When he enters the bar to find it completely empty, he does say that he'd sell his soul for a drink. At that point, he sees Lloyd the bartender. And after that, talks about how Lloyd was always the best bartender. I think at the point he offered his soul, he became one with the evil of the hotel. The picture at the end suggests to me that once you've been taken, you belong to the hotel forever. There's no guarantee that the picture is static either. It could be that he was inserted into the picture after his demise, but that indeed everyone in that picture was a damned soul taken by the hotel.
Apparently photographs can capture souls or soul fragments or something.
There have been some that have thought so. Although I was thinking of the picture as essentially being a "trophy case" of sorts.
It could very well be. I have thought the same thing while watching this scene. Also, there are real life ghost stories of people warping through time in haunted buildings. Maybe there is some kind of vortal or time portal to the 1920's there.
UnpimpYourAuto Absolutely.
When the bartender refuses money for payment and the drink is consumed the transaction is complete.
I think the director was diabolical as hell. He layered his films with so many contradicts that they will be debated forever cementing his fame.
No replies. I wonder why?
It’s smart
Stanley Kubrick is a genius...
Stanley Kubrick was the Tommy Weisau of the previous generation then?
David Lynch is infamous for doing that.
Many directors do it. Scorsese did it with Shutter Island as well.
The hotel catches men when they feel like they are failures, turns that frustration into anger and hatred, makes them kill their loved ones or kill themselves trying to kill their loved one, then has their soul forever. When it claims someone, it puts them in a picture.
Will G I like this theory of urs
The number of year 1921 is not the year.
It's a number of how many souls were there.
Good idea
Duvall was fantastic in pulling all her emotions to the surface.
I think the photo is a symbolic way to show that Jack has become one of the spirits haunting the Overlook, where it is always 1921.
I always interpreted it as signaling that Jack now was a part of the hotel.
That anytime someone is claimed by the house, they're added to the photographs.
This would assume that he wasn't on the photograph when they first moved in there.
But now after death he's a part of the hotel and will be one of the ghosts there.
I've always felt that there was more to that picture at the end than just Jack Torrance being front and center. There's something very odd about that picture.
Agreed, I posted a comment earlier about what I noticed about that picture...it is unsettling for a number of reasons
@@AmandaHugandKiss411 what other reasons
This
@@fionn8265 his smile...
@Cyrus Mountolugo I wanna know... when I saw that picture I was about to turn the movie off
How King could not like this film is baffling. A true masterpiece.
@Nate Peace. Nice profile pic HAL
The book was way better
Film is great, but the book is so much better.
The film made a lot of changes and I think Kubrick may have insulted King's original novel. Not sure but I think I heard that.
Read the book
Jack is now part of the hotel, it's a repository of souls. The novel implies the ghosts were not nice people in life and only stay in the hotel because they know something far worse waits for them in the afterlife. Fun fact that is a real 1920s photo with Jack edited into it.
Not so sure, if it was it was highly modified for the movie. A number of the people are doubled or even tripled intentionally it seems.
@@AmandaHugandKiss411 No, it’s real. I don’t remember where I saw it, but his head was edited in and I’ve seen the original.
the photo is supposley from 1921.
not 1920.
is the original from 1920??
@name
3:43 look at the picture (pause)
it says july (or something) 1921
My friend described it so perfectly back in 2008. Everyone joins the party eventually
you said that already, in a past post, slim!!!
Right, we get it.
1:18 "honey, give me a towel please"
The Overlook Hotel is part of a chain that includes the Hotel California. Their motto: "You can check in any time you like, but you can never leave." A list of the other hotel locations can be found in the Twilight Zone. (For more modest accomodations, see also the Bates Motel, showers included)
I think the ending photo is really spooky... if I may be so bold sir.
No problem....geezy ol' boy!!!!!
Jack Torrance offered his soul for a drink. He recognized Lloyd, as he had been there before. He's always been there. Shining is the ability to see residual energy of that which has taken place in the past. We inherit our traits from our parents. Danny's Mother, when in shock and fear, is finally able to see (Shine) many of the damnable events which have transpired over the years at the Overlook hotel. When Jack Torrance finally dies, he once again takes his rightful place (as seen in the picture) among the others... in hell.
I took it to mean the hotel draws people to it and then drives them insane to both kill and die at the hotel. The picture symbolizes the hotel now owning his soul forever, along with the others in the photo.
Makes sense 2 me. He was vulnerable too bcuz he was an alcoholic with inner demons. Entities prey on the weak.
It always seemed to me that it isn’t the hotel that is inherently evil, but that it is a kind of energetic field that magnifies the inner darkness of its visitors. Like a hallucinogenic drug experience, it draws to the surface what is already there. Wendy is the most naive, so she picks up on this last. Jack does not arrive to the hotel innocent, as possible violent/sexual abuse by his hands is referenced. This is why he is most strongly affected in an evil sense. For Danny, the hotel allows the trauma he has suffered to become fully realized. He has compartmentalized and temporarily blocked the memory of his trauma through disassociation (talking to himself, the invention of his imaginary friend Tony).
In short, one could say the the hotel brings to life an esoteric, demonic force, together with its real-life consequences, that the unconscious mind desperately attempts to suppress out of denial.
Jack suppresses his own transgressions. Danny suppresses the abuse he has suffered. Wendy suppresses the guilt she has for staying with an abuser. They are psychically locked in a recurring pattern that must be broken.
I feel for Shelly Duval, they say that this movie is the start of her mental downward spiral. I hope she gets the help she needs.
I can give her what she needs.
Bushrod Rust Johnson shes nearly 70..
+bla bla Uh... don’t want to be mean, but...
Uncreatively Named Channel She was a pretty lady when she was young Mr. Shallow.
+Leona Blackwell Agree to disagree.
When Jack screws up and gets locked in the room by his wife, he makes a deal with a ghost that lets him out. That deal was that he would kill his family like Grady had done. I think that this is the moment when Jack seals the link to the 1920's. The ballroom becoming crowded doesn't surprise Jack because he was transported back there to consult the ghosts. The photo is confirmation that he had been transported back there and I think it is only that he frequented the ballroom to consult with the ghosts and get a drink. I do not think he was part of the hotel or that he was reincarnated. Jack's timeline starts in the modern era and merely visits the past a few times and that photo was taken during one of those times. That's my reading of it anyway...as for why Jack appears as sort of the star in the photo, well that might be because he became very popular with the bartender, and Grady who felt less guilt for having gone on to murder his daughters and wife and himself.
Yassss... I thought this was obvious. I didn't know people were questioning it. The photo confirmed that he actually seen the ghosts and visited the past, it wasn't all in his head.
Jack sold his soul to the devil 'I'd give anything for just one godamned drink' suddenly Lloyd the bartender appears is he the devil?
@@ktrevellion1995 Yes i believe he is. The red jacket soon gives it away.
Grady. So Mr Grady. Grady Grady Grady.... I love it, as my last name is Grady. I also share Steven King's birthday. Hell yeah!!!
Yes the devil made a deal with him. Seems
This movie still freaks me out to this day. It's a masterpiece.
it freaks my daughter out......still....shes 45 years old....go figure
+helen morcom u old old
rosie rosa - And you’re rude, rude.
If you look closely at the picture it has many of the people in the pictured doubled and even tripled.
I think this ties into your theories nicely.
Having watched many different TH-camrs vids on the Shining, I haven't seen anyone mention that the scene where Jack is in the gold room and gets up from the bar just before bumping into the butler, a women in a gold dress passes in front of Jack with what looks like a bloody hand print on her buttocks.
Also I noticed in this seen there is the row of people on the red couches we can see behind Jack as he is talking to the bartender but when he gets up to walk we can better see were the tables are which have white table clothes instead of red which would fit the decor better and that the dining table area is roped off by a red rope. I realize in real life these types are ropes are traditional red however I believe it is intentionally placed there. Besides, the bartender, the butler and the girl I mentioned in the gold gown, all of the people in there have minimal movement and they aren't making much noise, like they are suspended there or they are passively waiting for something .
Its at this final picture scene that I really notice that the hotel is called the Overlook Hotel. I interpret this picture and writing on it differently each time watch the movie, does it we are supposed to over look the hotel an focus on other subplots, that the hotel itself overlooks over everything and everyone like how the role of the Caretaker would be or something else entirely.
That's the beauty of Kubrick's films the layered meanings and the details he places into his work. It is said that nothing is there by accident but as Kubrick has said in interviews that the meaning is up to the interpretation of the viewer for all his films.
Excellent video, thanks for posting it!
Imagine the hotel never existed and it was just a dream 💀
Many people double or tripled? I've just looked at it no body is doubled or tripled at all 😂
@@Lpool-mx6rl I agree. They are all the same ethnicity, all dressed the same with the same hairstyles & many of the men have the same type of mustache. I can understand how it could be easy to get them confused, but see nothing to determine the same people are double or tripled.
When I was watching the movie with my family, I was the only one to notice the lady with a bloody hand stain. I’m glad to know that I’m not crazy! 😂
@@deusvult7211 😎
"I would sell my soul for a drink."
Name it av got it lol ....
That's not what he said. He said "I'd sell my soul for just a glass of beer"
lloyd, the bartender was a ghost, who bought jacks soul..." your money is no good her, Mr Torrance...not now, anyway"
"Maurie's wigs, dont come off"......jumps into a swimming pool...lol
@@-MrRichBiker1967 Just off with Jimmy to have a talk about my share and buy Belle some danish.
I interpreted the photo to mean Jack's spirit had been absorbed by the hotel, like a fly trapped in amber.
boradis Curse you underdog.
Why would he pose in such manner? The arms looks similar to a mason pose or a Luciferian arm pose. Do you think Kubrick did that on purpose?
You got me at amber
Didí Dylan - Peña I read somewhere that the picture was an actual photograph from the 1920's and they just added Jack's face to another man's body, so the pose was already there
Natalia oh Ok!! Thanks for the info. But somebody in the 20's liked to pose as baphometh, then🤤.
The way Jack is standing in the picture is the, "As above so below" pose. This movie is full of esoteric reference.
Eyetunes
I totally agree!
Also, Jack had a bit of the shining as well, so therefore the Overlook could've worked on him through that, his ability is nowhere near close to Danny's or Halloran's. But Jack already has his demons and a dark side, Danny and Halloran shine bright and with positive power.❤
To me personally I think of it as being more of a message of the story than actually a massive part of the film. I think of it as like purgatory. In that once you are stuck somewhere time then becomes irrelevant. But it’s one of them init it’ll mean a million different things to a million people.
This movie is a brilliant acid trip of a movie! Sometimes you just need to go with the flow and accept its madness!
I watched it on acid and had a bad trip
@@bigtodd6609 well I’d assume u would’ve lmao u couldn’t pay me to watch this on acid
hey, maybe stick to 2001 on acid!
@@jawsports4679 I passed out from fear, haha
Do all the events have anything to do with the hotel being built on an Indian burial ground?
I'm 65 and doing the "Covid-Shuffle" at home here. I mention my age, b/c as a kid in the 1960's, my family would drive from Az. back to our native Nebraska and always make a stop there at Estes Park, Colo and go into the Stanley Hotel for a little stretch-break. The "Stanley" that built the hotel was also the "Stanley" from the "Stanley Steamer" steam automobiles wayyy back when.
I’ll be 65 in 40 years.
To me that photo is the hotel's victims. More like the hotel's trophies on display for guests to look at and the guests not coming to the realization that they could be the ones next to join them in the photo. As for Jack being in the front the photo, it's the hotel's way of saying he was our recent target and we want you to see it front and center until we find another caretaker to take Jack's place in the photo.
Michael Tardi -Nah.
Has anyone noticed that in that picture he is holding his arms in the baphomet pose?
Sam Marchetti oh shit
Oh. You're right.
Sweet mama Jesus he sure is!
Sam Marchetti Dang that makes it hella more creepy and leads to more questions
@@Capt_Killingfield I you pay attention, you will see that pose everywhere
the hotel claimed him and made him part of its macabre history. forever in the past and never the present.
loop closed.
Since Jack is wearing a tuxedo in the picture, I think it shows him as an important hotel guest and not a worker. Or he was the manager of the hotel, not just a caretaker. So, either he becomes a guest by going back in time or he is a reincarnated guest drawn back to the place.
But isn't it a party, so everyone would be wearing tuxedos?
I always thought it was a reincarnation.
To create true suspense you need to let the audience decide. The ending is what you make it, the decision is yours.
I always just assumed that Kubrick enjoyed f***ing with his audiences minds, does there really need to be a deeper meaning than that.
Yes
The hotel was built on an Indian burial grounds by “Jack” back in the 1910’s.
Jack was cursed for his greed & nonchalance of desecrating sacred grounds. Reincarnated every twenty years until his hotel is demolished & remains moved from the grounds.
Grady is an evil spirit that inhabits a guest, possessed, who always nudges Jack to “correct” his family.
The bartender, Lloyd, too had the “Shine” & helped Wendy find Jack in hopes that she would catch him as his mental soundness collapses. The Lloyd, too, fell victim of Jack as Dick Halloran did.
this!
Wow really interesting , never saw it that way and makes absolutely.sense
The Shining is my all-time favorite movie as well. You know, the thing that drives me totally crazy every time I watch the ending is, what is written in the tiny note Jack holds in his right hand under his thumb. I know that it is a common method for passing someone important and private information during a handshake, but it has driven me totally crazy wondering what that tiny slip of paper says!!!!
I always saw it as the house absorbing him into the photo, and he'll become another ghost to taunt the next caretaker. And the photo will become more crowed as the Years go by
ANIMALFLYER456 stfu
3C-FD bit rude
3C-FD Yeah, why so angry??
Lauren Greenlee It has been regurgitated dozens of times in this comment section
So what happens when the photo runs out of room?
He was possessed by the spirits that already existed. More importantly, this was a creation of Kubrick. It was not Steven King's idea of how this movie was to be done. Great as it is and I still love it, it is not the Shining from the book. Read it and see. Also read Dr. Sleep.
Dr. Sleep was a fantastic book.
Doctor Sleep was a horrible movie.
@@SkyePhoenix your opinion.
I like the idea of him being consumed by the picture upon dying and merging his spirit with the hotel personally.
The overlook hotel in the movie version can only influence evil people. There is subtle clues throughout the movie that Jack is evil because he is sexually molesting his son. Just a few are, in the beginning while still in Denver Danny has an episode which requires a Psychiatrist to talk to him while his mother is present. It takes place in his bedroom and throughout the conversation Danny who is lying on his bed has both hands over his genitals which is a classic sign of molestation, secondly next to him is a blanket with a teddy bear on it and the image is the exact same as the hotels imagine of the bear costumed man giving another man oral sex shown latter in the movie. At the hotel while waiting for the manager Ullman to explain the duties to jack Jack is passing the time outside his office reading playgirl which is a magazine that has nude men. Danny was not attacked in room 237 by the old lady but in fact was attacked by Jack. Children that age will often tell a far different version of an attack altering the facts including who did it which Danny did to his mother. Another clue to this is the fact when she told Jack the tale of the lady in the hotel he said "are you out of your fucking mind." Any man that did not attack his boy or believe that his wife did would naturally believe that someone else must be in the hotel. Jack in fact did not check 237 and that whole scene was a dream Jack had by his subconscious expressing the horror he put his son thru. The scene when Danny goes to the room to get toys and his Father sitting on the edge of the bed calls him over to give him a hug Jack uses the exact same motions and gestures to call him over that the lady in room 237 used with Jack.
Nah
You got this whole speil from a different video in youtube... Could have just posted a link instead of wasting ur time
@@njhovo_ piss off
um no
I think basicly once the hotel claims you you exist at all moments it exists going back to the big event in1921 so every soul it captures appears in that picture.
His line with Wendy about how "she's DISTRACTING HIM" is one of the best acting displays I've ever seen of a man trying to do what he needs to do to provide for his family and not wanting to yell but furious inside so it comes out in comical ways
INDEED...Wendy not attending to her job as mother & keeping Doc away from Jack & his work is what caused Jack to yank him up & hurt his arm. Then the naive way she carries herself by walking in on Jack while he was typing. I think the viewer is as annoyed by her as they fear for her & Doc. It's less about how nuts Jack is, and more about WHY. It's obvious why Jack can't stand her, so it makes it comical to hear his contemptuous sarcasm directed at her. Few don't enjoy this movie because of that. I doubt people that are exactly like Wendy would appreciate it. Perhaps stranded in a remote hotel in the winter with an alcoholic suffering from writer's block is not Wendy's first & only mistake. But what BETTER way to set the stage for a horror masterpiece?
H E R E ' S
J O H N N Y !
H E R E S
JOHNNY GARGANO
Oh Hi Johnny
It bothers me. The "Here`s Johnny" moment. It has 0 relation to the rest of the movie and it doesnt even appear in the book. Why?
Give me the bat!
Nowadays it would be "Here's Joanne"
At :07 where it's mentioned that "...the cinematography is outstanding..." we see two evergreen trees standing next to one another in the background and with the sky behind them. Maybe a reference to the Grady twins or some other aspect of duality in the film?
Grady told him that Jack's always had been the caretaker...
The concept of the hotel being alive I think is quite true in this theory. Maybe the hotel stored Jack's soul, like it did with all the other people, and the twins, who were obviously the children that were murdered by the previous dude who murdered his family. Like the twins, Jack will forever be a part of the hotel, and the next people to come will probably see Jack, like how Danny saw the twins, and how all three members of the family saw people there that obviously weren't physically there. So yeah, quite literally, the Hotel is the monster.
It’s waaay darker than that, Kubrick left a trail of breadcrumbs and Easter eggs all the way through this and, if you know what you’re looking for, it goes from a quirky early 1980’s horror movie to an entirely more sinister and layered story
Name of the film ?
The photo at the end of the shining was the first ever cursed image
There's an idea that I first heard in 'Room 237', a great documentary on The Shining, obsession, and fan theories (nee post-modern literary criticism). The idea is that of haunting, in general. The hotel is haunted, not so much in the conventional sense of ghosts, but that's certainly part of it.
It's haunted by the past, by devilish deeds, by the greed and decadence of its past guests, in short, haunted by ideas or concepts more than spirits. I support the idea that the movie may be attempting to explore the nature of haunting, what it means to be haunted. One of the scenes that best exemplifies this is THE scene that has haunted me since I was a kid; that being the scene towards the end when Wendy is escaping the hotel and sees the man and the individual in the costume engaged in some hedonistic activity, the implication being a perverse sexual rendezvous. Prior to and subsequent to that encounter, you just have general shades of the past, manifested in the form of cobwebs and skeletons. But that one scene exemplifies what haunting means... what are they doing? Why are they there? What keeps them there? The questions are unanswered, and must remain so, to haunt us.
I’ve been trying to figure out this damn ending forever.
Mister Sweetness explain it to me please because the video didn’t help much lol
David Glasco when the hotel claims another soul it's shown in that photo like a trophy
I will offend you but if that’s the case then why the date of 1920?
is that when the hotel first open in the movie?, I haven't seen it in a long time but that would be my guess
Mister Sweetness If thats so the why wasn’t the black guy in the picture?
So for the longest time I've had a poster of this photo on my wall and I noticed a man's face cut off by the edge of the photo and damn it all if it wasn't Kubrick himself. Of course he'd put himself in the photo... But in the photo in the movie, which apparently isn't cropped, if you look to the far middle right where the bald man with the Groucho Marx mustache is, that was who I thought was Kubrick... It's very disappointing to know that it isn't actually him. I thought I was like the only one who spotted that... God damn it. My life means nothing now.
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Z0MBIEBRY36 Watch your language God bless
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lmao !!
That would be awesome if it was.
My theory is that jacks soul is trapped within the hotel, remember when he said “I want to stay her forever and ever”
i thought it meant hes just yet another dead lost soul who died in the hotel and now will forever be there.And everytime someone dies in that hotel they join in on the photo.that was the first new years eve at the hotel
Very good axe swinging technique to be fair...
This film came out when I was like 12 years old and that ending really creeped me out.
SWLinPHX ...I was 10 and my dad took me to see it I walked out traumatized....all I could say was...dad why did I see that..great freaking movie though.
Makes the line: "Orders from the House" truly make since. I support your theory.
REDRUM, REDRUM!
Means Murder backwards.
@@apachetribeswearealive2313 I'm just now realizing this smh. Truth in plain sight lol
Red rum. Delicious.
Hordor hordor hordor?
I believe that Jack is the reincarnation of an evil entity that collects certain souls to satisfy the hotel's hunger.
Anyone else like the ballroom music?
me lol :p
it’s al bowlly! loveliest singer of the 30s
It's ok
Yes. Of course "anyone else" does. You're just looking for attention.
Check out "The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond this World"
This is a great video and you bring up some very good points. For my money I would propose the following: 1) The hotel is a living entity powered by all the souls that are trapped as residual energy. 2) The hotel psychically drew Jack and his family to this place. 3) Jack is a real live person who is empathic (a gift he passed on to his son) and able to connect to the spirits in the hotel. 4) Jack is manipulated by the hotel to kill his family. 5) When Jack dies in the maze, his soul is sucked in and trapped inside the time warp that exists on another plane inside the hotel......another one bites the dust.
I think it’s like in Haunting of Hill House , your soul was always there and always will be here . Like Nelly and the bentneck lady
That moment when it was revealed that the bent-neck lady was actually Nelly herself was like the only part of the series that actually gave me the chills
He gets to party forever, The Shining is about alcoholism.
kurt lindner don't see it....
Falco Burke he gave his soul for a drink.
Who wouldn't?
Max Cheng don't you have a 7-11 a block away there, tho? :)
Essentially yes, as all Steven King novels portray.
The shining has a circular structure. Jack is always going to be the caretaker for eternity
i always thought that the people in the picture were people that died at the hotel some point and are stuck there forever. Jack being the last person to die, he’s the most recent spirit hence why he’s front and centre.
This is easily my favorite movie of all time
Bryant Medina Its in my Top 57
MegaBRD The Movie Nerd that's what's up what's number 1
As far as I'm concerned this is the greatest cinematic masterpiece ever made and the end of true cinema. Never will it be replicated.
Agree! Tragic events are seeped into structures and the energies are all still there, which affect everyone. The energies can be so strong, that yes, they can affect and control people to the point of insanity. The Shining is such an excellent movie (and of course the book), and was done brilliantly and with Jack Nicholson at his best! Shelly Duvall was always underrated as she was amazing as well
The picture says 1921, and the bloke who introduces the hotel to Jack near the beginning of the film is called Stuart Ullman.
S is letter 19 of the alphabet, and U is letter 21.
19 and 21.
1921.
So potentially, Kubrick was telling us that Ullman was also part of the hotel and didn't really exist as a person, and the whole film is in fact a physical characterisation of the process of the hotel reliving it's past in the form of a modern murder.