It would all depend on just how much storage one has. I am blessed with living in a rural area and have 2 large outbuildings for storage. Evren then however, I am making plans to build another building in the near future. Living in a populated area your storage options could be very limited. Something that I can also personally attest to, is that not everyone has the mechanical ability to fix things.
That is true I have three lawn mowers only one is put out of the elements the other two I use and abuse so they stay out all the time also no room for them but I do cover them for winter at least
@@ericrichardson3332 When we purchased this place, we ran across a junk pile in the woods and there are several mowers in it. The mower decks are completely rusted, but the engines are still good looking. Thanks to this channel I grabbed one of them, a Briggs 3.5hp easy spin starting, and am getting ready to start working on it. I figure that the worst that will happen is I can't get it running and I will be no worse off.
@@covishen that's a good idea and you said there was more so plenty to mess with in your spare time to try to get running, I would alao like to encourage you to keep trying , I've been wanting to find a thrown out mower or even a trimmer to work on but the junk collectors around here grab them so fast I'll have to keep an eye out
that recoil spring looked like it came off the Titanic. & the governor arm seal? These are 8+ difficulty repairs. Knowledge intensive stuff. Still trying to figure out how the deck rusted right under that failed seal...........?
I have an enclosed shed and everything stays in the dry unless I'm outside and get caught in the rain but even then it's on it's way back to the dry. I lived with stuff under tarps for years but when I got the chance for one, it was DONE! I also have a piece of heavy wire for a clutch cable for the Snapper with the Kawasaki motor. Not pretty to look at but works just fine for the bagger. Thanks!
Great repair work on that black max never seen a recoil spring break like that one did. It was very clever on the bail cable also . But looks better with the original cable.
I've seen some pretty thoroughly shot recoil springs over the years, but that one takes the cake. The improvised bail bar cable looks like the tether/safety cable used in garage doors with coil springs. Nice job, meant to last the ages! Almost certainly not the work of the person who decided to discard the mower.
Hello, I would not leave any equipment out in the elements if I had any intention of fixing it. That just makes the job tougher or worse yet, fruitless. You did a fine job and showed some new procedures which I will remember for future use. I have several mowers I maintain without fixing and selling someone else's mower. I reside in a very rural area, so no one leaves yard equipment out for the picking. Although, I do envy your being able to repair and sell lawn equipment. You do a mighty fine job of it and apparently have the patience of a saint. Great job and video!!!
I don't have enough space to store the mowers & edger and snow blowers, but whatever is the off-season equipment is under a tarp with no rips in it, exactly so that my stuff doesn't end up like the inside of this recoil starter and deck. And this is a good repair - especially the tire swap. If there's a paint shade that's reasonably close, I might brush some on over the rusted area, but otherwise, this looks like a desirable one to send to the marketplace. I hope it sells for a decent price.
owning 3 mowers i have seen what happens when you leave mowers outside i am able to fix them because of your videos so after having mowing decks rust out i will always find a way to keep it out of the rain maybe a tarp or putting it in the shed so yes keep it in side or covered.
10 commandments for lawnmowers 1) shall not store outside 2) shall keep oil between add an full marks on dipstick 3) shall not run over rocks or softballs, etc 4) shall not drink ethanol 5) shall not use as a stump grinder 6) shall not run with out air filter 7) shall not be operated while operator is intoxicated 8) shall not be operated while its raining 9) shall continue to mow while battery powered ones die and need 5 hours to recharge 10) repeat 1)
I'd definitely keep it in my shed. When I found time to fix it I don't want to run into extra problems. Something as simple as an oil leak, to me it's silly to just leave it outside. Great video as always.
I don't understand why people just leave them outside. That is what I am dealing with on the Snapper Ninja that I am working on. It was left outdoors without an airbox cover for at least three years, according to the owner. I have dealt with recoil issues, a seized blade adapter and self propel system, and I still have a fuel system issue that I can't figure out. It initially just needed a carb cleaning and airbox. It's a mess.
I ha had two leaking oil seals on governor shaft in the last month on customer mowers. One on a riding mower and one on a zero turn. A hillbilly repair is an o-ring and permatex on the shaft to stop or minimize the oil leak.
Brilliant follow up video - thanks for showing us the fix of the 2 remaining items. Would it be possible to post a video of how to change the brake shoes on a Honda GCV160?
Hey bro what's up? This mower gave you some trouble but you eventually got it back in working order. I think changing the tyre and the proper cable made the mower a lot more appealing to the eyes. I believe that it's more of a storage issue.
Hi, one thing that this video is missing is the lithium grease on wheel spindle :) I was expecting it when you changed the tires and it looks like i watch too many videos of yours haha. Kind regards from Croatia, great videos!
Would you recommend buying the Black Max Mower new? It looks like the Black Max at Walmart now have the plastic deck. Do you think this mower would be a reliable brand for a small yard? Thank your for a reply!
I was thinking if you couldn't get the seal an O-ring or two may work or even a rubber garment that's used to keep a hole in sheet metal from cutting into what ever you are putting through the hole if you could find the right size , silicone might work but I'm nut sure for how long with any of the mentioned options above
I had to remove the governor arm on the GCV160 that I am working on, and i have never set a governor before. This is on a Snapper Ninja that has an engine speed selector switch. If I have the engine speed set too low, could it cause the engine to only run well fully choked or on the highest speed setting? The entire fuel system (except the tank) is brand new. I have replaced everything with OEM parts, but it will surge and/or die at anything below the highest speed setting. It starts on the first pull and runs nearly perfect at the highest speed.
Did you buy an OEM carb or an aftermarket one. I do believe the carb is not delivering enough fuel even a the low speed setting. It's up to you if you want to modify the main and pilot jet to help deliver more fuel.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Everything I have replaced is OEM, except for the section of fuel line that runs from the shut off valve to the tank. I've even tried 2 different OEM carbs. I thought the same thing. It ran better with the second carb, but it's running lean for some reason, and I can't figure out why.
Despite its performance I'm not a Honda power fan... strictly a B&S guy, so I 'm not really bothered it was left outside. Now if it was a Quantum, then the dude should've been arrested.
I would put the lawn mower inside the garage until I’m able to get to it. It could be some time until I get to fix it and I don’t need anymore problems with it cause it was outside.
Well if any engine can take a little weathering it's a Honda! If that was any other engine you would have needed to clean the tank, replace the carburetor, etc etc. WOW I've seen 100s of rewinds but that's gotta be the worst!
for me no way i,d put it in a good place until there,s a ready time to go to work on them and yes even Ozmowers would advise it on the same page too but yeah he has his own views on there etc.
It would all depend on just how much storage one has. I am blessed with living in a rural area and have 2 large outbuildings for storage. Evren then however, I am making plans to build another building in the near future. Living in a populated area your storage options could be very limited. Something that I can also personally attest to, is that not everyone has the mechanical ability to fix things.
very nice, I wish I had a large shed.
That is true I have three lawn mowers only one is put out of the elements the other two I use and abuse so they stay out all the time also no room for them but I do cover them for winter at least
@@ericrichardson3332 When we purchased this place, we ran across a junk pile in the woods and there are several mowers in it. The mower decks are completely rusted, but the engines are still good looking. Thanks to this channel I grabbed one of them, a Briggs 3.5hp easy spin starting, and am getting ready to start working on it. I figure that the worst that will happen is I can't get it running and I will be no worse off.
@@covishen that's a good idea and you said there was more so plenty to mess with in your spare time to try to get running, I would alao like to encourage you to keep trying , I've been wanting to find a thrown out mower or even a trimmer to work on but the junk collectors around here grab them so fast I'll have to keep an eye out
I always keep my mowers working or not under cover or inside a shed till i could find the time to fix them
me too, thank you James Hedrick.
I have no garage and only really work in my small 9X11 shed in the winter for snowblowers. Other than that I'm at the mercy of the weather.
I can understand then.
Great repair. I always keep mines in the shed 🙏👍🙏👍
me too, thank you RayFpv.
Great work. Definitely wasn't expecting the recoil spring to look like that.
I know right, it caught me off guard too.
Nice mower. It really amazes me the silly reasons why people throw away good mowers, especially when parts to repair them are cheap.
I know right , thank you Christopher Marshall.
that recoil spring looked like it came off the Titanic. & the governor arm seal?
These are 8+ difficulty repairs. Knowledge intensive stuff.
Still trying to figure out how the deck rusted right under that failed seal...........?
I have an enclosed shed and everything stays in the dry unless I'm outside and get caught in the rain but even then it's on it's way back to the dry. I lived with stuff under tarps for years but when I got the chance for one, it was DONE! I also have a piece of heavy wire for a clutch cable for the Snapper with the Kawasaki motor. Not pretty to look at but works just fine for the bagger. Thanks!
This is one of your best videos. I have this series engine on two different OPE and this may be of use if my governors should spring a leak.
thank you George Mazich, I appreciate that .
Clear coat for the rust if you want to it does help just let the buyer know that you did it
I'll have to try that.
Great repair work on that black max never seen a recoil spring break like that one did. It was very clever on the bail cable also . But looks better with the original cable.
I know right, I really thought about leaving it that way.
Good day . Boy interesting video, especially showing old video on governor shaft. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I've seen some pretty thoroughly shot recoil springs over the years, but that one takes the cake. The improvised bail bar cable looks like the tether/safety cable used in garage doors with coil springs. Nice job, meant to last the ages! Almost certainly not the work of the person who decided to discard the mower.
thank you rbarr775
Hello, I would not leave any equipment out in the elements if I had any intention of fixing it. That just makes the job tougher or worse yet, fruitless. You did a fine job and showed some new procedures which I will remember for future use. I have several mowers I maintain without fixing and selling someone else's mower. I reside in a very rural area, so no one leaves yard equipment out for the picking. Although, I do envy your being able to repair and sell lawn equipment. You do a mighty fine job of it and apparently have the patience of a saint. Great job and video!!!
thank you Mr G. I appreciate it.
I don't have enough space to store the mowers & edger and snow blowers, but whatever is the off-season equipment is under a tarp with no rips in it, exactly so that my stuff doesn't end up like the inside of this recoil starter and deck. And this is a good repair - especially the tire swap. If there's a paint shade that's reasonably close, I might brush some on over the rusted area, but otherwise, this looks like a desirable one to send to the marketplace. I hope it sells for a decent price.
I completely understand
owning 3 mowers i have seen what happens when you leave mowers outside i am able to fix them because of your videos so after having mowing decks rust out i will always find a way to keep it out of the rain maybe a tarp or putting it in the shed so yes keep it in side or covered.
nice work and yes I would alway suggest a tarp to keep water off of it.
10 commandments for lawnmowers
1) shall not store outside
2) shall keep oil between add an full marks on dipstick
3) shall not run over rocks or softballs, etc
4) shall not drink ethanol
5) shall not use as a stump grinder
6) shall not run with out air filter
7) shall not be operated while operator is intoxicated
8) shall not be operated while its raining
9) shall continue to mow while battery powered ones die and need 5 hours to recharge
10) repeat 1)
thank you D Fields
I'd definitely keep it in my shed. When I found time to fix it I don't want to run into extra problems. Something as simple as an oil leak, to me it's silly to just leave it outside. Great video as always.
I think, that's the best Idea, thank you Gary Allen.
I don't understand why people just leave them outside. That is what I am dealing with on the Snapper Ninja that I am working on. It was left outdoors without an airbox cover for at least three years, according to the owner. I have dealt with recoil issues, a seized blade adapter and self propel system, and I still have a fuel system issue that I can't figure out. It initially just needed a carb cleaning and airbox. It's a mess.
I've asked and it seems like it's done out of laziness, and the fact that it still runs after they do it, allows them to keep it outside
It's logic don't let the problems pile up store it away from the elements
you got that right.
I just to be in the military.....
I ha had two leaking oil seals on governor shaft in the last month on customer mowers. One on a riding mower and one on a zero turn. A hillbilly repair is an o-ring and permatex on the shaft to stop or minimize the oil leak.
that works for me.
Wow sir your very talented at your craft
thank you I appreciate your time
Brilliant follow up video - thanks for showing us the fix of the 2 remaining items. Would it be possible to post a video of how to change the brake shoes on a Honda GCV160?
You know I've never had to replace one. I would think they only what to replace it, would be to replace the whole brake assembly not just the shoe.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE keep in in mind to check them in your next Honda video (if possible).
Hey bro what's up? This mower gave you some trouble but you eventually got it back in working order. I think changing the tyre and the proper cable made the mower a lot more appealing to the eyes. I believe that it's more of a storage issue.
yes I did, and it was quite the learning experience
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE we are never too old to learn bro👍
Not a bad find.
you are correct. thank you little eagle.
Hi, one thing that this video is missing is the lithium grease on wheel spindle :) I was expecting it when you changed the tires and it looks like i watch too many videos of yours haha. Kind regards from Croatia, great videos!
Thank you Filip, yes I didn't do it on camera this time.
After you took off the retaining clip from gov. shaft, was that GOOO (Dirt) the remnants the the original seal??
there's no original seal, it was just dirt and oil.
A Honda powered black max mower .I wonder if they are the same as the one,s sold at Walmart
They have sold them at Sam's Club...
yes same.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE okay thanks for the info on this matter young man 😎👍
If stored outside at least cover it with a tarp.
absolutely
Would you recommend buying the Black Max Mower new? It looks like the Black Max at Walmart now have the plastic deck. Do you think this mower would be a reliable brand for a small yard? Thank your for a reply!
as long as it has a good engine on it, sure.
I was thinking if you couldn't get the seal an O-ring or two may work or even a rubber garment that's used to keep a hole in sheet metal from cutting into what ever you are putting through the hole if you could find the right size , silicone might work but I'm nut sure for how long with any of the mentioned options above
I think you're right but I might have to give a try just to see, how well it works.
Store it in the shed, IF I had one which I don't.
thank you Vernon Bruce.
I had to remove the governor arm on the GCV160 that I am working on, and i have never set a governor before. This is on a Snapper Ninja that has an engine speed selector switch. If I have the engine speed set too low, could it cause the engine to only run well fully choked or on the highest speed setting? The entire fuel system (except the tank) is brand new. I have replaced everything with OEM parts, but it will surge and/or die at anything below the highest speed setting. It starts on the first pull and runs nearly perfect at the highest speed.
Did you buy an OEM carb or an aftermarket one. I do believe the carb is not delivering enough fuel even a the low speed setting. It's up to you if you want to modify the main and pilot jet to help deliver more fuel.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Everything I have replaced is OEM, except for the section of fuel line that runs from the shut off valve to the tank. I've even tried 2 different OEM carbs. I thought the same thing. It ran better with the second carb, but it's running lean for some reason, and I can't figure out why.
Despite its performance I'm not a Honda power fan... strictly a B&S guy, so I 'm not really bothered it was left outside. Now if it was a Quantum, then the dude should've been arrested.
The quantum engines are great. I have 3 of them
@@jamesl9686 I never cared for the Honda engines either. Replacing the timing belt can be a pain
lol.. I see your point.
nothing wrong with a good quantum.
Would 40-1 just a little drop be ok to put in my 4 stroke
A small engine shop near me charges near $100 per hour
sound about right
Hello i have the same mower i pic mine up from a nearby neighbor im looking to get the side discharge reflector
Im hopping u can help me fine the part or num for it
532403073 deflector
I would put the lawn mower inside the garage until I’m able to get to it. It could be some time until I get to fix it and I don’t need anymore problems with it cause it was outside.
me too, thank you William Snow.
what was the part number for the cable you replaced thanks
there's a link to the cable and the part number in the description
Would 40-1 just a drop before ok to put in my 4 stroke?
it's fine, that's what I use when testing engines anyway.
Ideally I would still keep it in the shop.
you got that right.
I have a few excellent hibda recoil assemblys I would gladly donate
not necessary but I appreciate the thought.
What is the part number for the seal?
it's in the description as governor seal.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE ok
Well if any engine can take a little weathering it's a Honda! If that was any other engine you would have needed to clean the tank, replace the carburetor, etc etc. WOW I've seen 100s of rewinds but that's gotta be the worst!
thank you Don Mayberry.
what is the website you use to find free mowers
I use Craigs and FB Marketplace.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE ok thanks love your videos
I never leave my mowers outside, whether they work or not!
thank you Mike Jones.
another cheap fix worth the time it took.
thank you Kevin Powell.
for me no way i,d put it in a good place until there,s a ready time to go to work on them and yes even Ozmowers would advise it on the same page too but yeah he has his own views on there etc.
thank you Patrick Stapleton, I guess it's different for everyone.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE true that one but for me i think differently on it etc.
Why not just change the wheel.
that's what I ended up doing