Why Would Someone Give Away This Honda Powered Blackmax Mower
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Thanks for watching. I found this mower in my neighborhood down the street, and I cannot figure out why they would give it away. The reason is that is still has plenty of life left in it.
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Believe it or not, some people have absolutely no mechanical aptitude or tools. Fixed income and a couple things wrong with it meant they’d either have to pay someone to repair or purchase a new replacement. With some shops charging over $100/hour and no guarantee they’d get it right they probably chose the lesser of two weevils.
I think you might be right.
That happens a lot. $100 shop fee plus parts can be used towards a new unit.
Something I’ve been using for several years on control cables is motorcycle cable lubricant kits. They include a tool that clamps on the cable end and a spray can of a dry film lubricant that won’t attract dirt but leaves a slick film of lube. These kits work on most control cables keep up the good work, you have very informative content.
thank you Roger Justice, do you have a brand name for that lube kit?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yes it's a tusk brand sold by rocky mountain atv. It comes in a kit with the clamp on tool as well as spray lubricant.
Some people have no stills at all in repairing things and rather buy new. That’s good for me when I find them. 🙏👍🙏👍
thank you RayFpv.
I'm facing that situation now. I bought a used JD lawn tractor last year, and this year it has cost me several hundred to keep going. The only reason I am keeping it is that I live in the snow belt and need the snow blower attachment. Come spring there is a very good chance this will end up in the trash pile. To answer your question however, aftermarket parts don't have the best reputation, and OEM honda is very expensive. Most mowers these days are used 3-6 years and discarded.
Sorry to hear that about your JD and thank you for your time.
Just a thought.... Maybe go talk to the previous owner, ask them if they already bought a new mower. If not, tell them what you did with their old one and ask if they would like to have it back, and perhaps ask for a small fee for your time and effort.
sorry Stan, they moved away already.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE well there is the answer to why they gave the mower away.
Very surprised to see that on the curb but it looks like just needed a few parts to get her right there. So far looks like a good find
I know right, to be honest, I was going to mention the reason in the next video on it, but they ended up retiring and moving away, that's the reason it was put on the curb.
If you have to have a professional repair such a mower, the costs escalate quickly, especially if you need them to pick it up and return it. That may be why they discarded it.
I think you're on to something.
You and I are clearly fix it yourself kind of guys. The owner may have had no clue as to what was wrong with it. All he could envision was some repair shop racking up $$ with an unknown ending. Also, he may be of the age where hiring a lawn service is a more attractive option.
you make a good point. they must not have know how easy a fix it actually was. thank you Bruce Coleman.
Curb Treasure for sure! Great find.
Yes! Thank you!
Lots of variables Depends for me on what it is and what I need. Most of what I've bought are wheels and cables for those types of mowers.
you are correct, these have plenty of parts available for them.
depends on the condition of the mower. If its a bit like that mower in the video i would put rust converter in the low spot and buy the needed parts. (Assuming it doesnt exceed its current value)
thank you emerybryant.
15yrs ago I moved into my home and was in need of a mower. I was walking my dogs when I spotted a mower on the curb. The gentleman was cleaning his garage and said his dog chewed up the pull string, spark plug cable and bag. I asked if I could have it and took it home. I mended the spark plug cable and replaced the pull string and it started up on the 1st try. I've used it ever since.
wow, very Nice investment in time, thank you DuketheMyth
Hey Eric my Honda lawnmower also has the choke lever. When I got my Honda lawnmower from my uncle I never knew that they made lawnmowers now with chocolate bars that you have to move before you start The mower.
this was a "terrible" design in my opinion as far as the automatic Choke lever . That's the reason you don't see them any more.
Oh I could see how it’s a terrible design because it’s one extra step that we would have to do to start our mower. Instead of pulling the string and the mower starts.
Looks okay has a good engine that works, doesn’t look like it’s greasy ...
Rust, mainly surface will need cleaning, u dercoating and paint
Be waiting for more information.
you are correct. however in the second part of this video, we'll see a very nasty surprise and it's probably the main reason it was given up
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yes I’m waiting for Part 2
Nothing wrong with that mower. You got it started without having to take off the carb, yet... If I had to put in more than $50 on a mower, I was going to sell I'd have to think twice about it but then the other part of me would probably do it anyway for the experience. Could all these company's put maybe put 2 holes in the decks or a little bigger. Good video, looking forward to the next one.
I know right, 2 holes would work for me.
The rust on the spring will effect the spring if it is really deep in to the metal of the spring
yes you are correct.
Hey HG, i have a quick fuel question. Before summer starts again next year i plan on filling up a 5 gallon gas can and using it all throughout the season. Because it it will be used over a couple months i want to put storage stabilizer in it, however i can only get ethanol gas so i also want to put an ethanol stabilizer in it. Will this mixture of the two stabilizers cause any harm to the fuel or the lawn mower? Thanks
That’s something you don’t have to worry about. As a matter of fact I run both stabilizer and a gas treatment through my fuel and the equipment works great on it. Just make sure not to put in too much.
if from the same brand I doubt it will have any adverse affects.
All you have to add to the gas is 2 ounces of Stabil fuel stabilizer and your good to go!
i have the ssme mower my neighbor put out on the curb took it home put gas in znd it started best mower i ever had
very nice! thank you Patrick Cordery.
Some folks just have to buy new no matter what. Maybe a friend or family member bought them a new mower.
ah, that's a very good possibility
I know some folks have the mentality, if one or two things break, only a matter of time until something big breaks on it and that is when they decide to drop it.
I can understand that.
Winded up selling that lawnboy mower I got up and running. My father in law just found me 2 Husqvarna mowers on the curb. 1 looks commercial grade.
very nice, do you have a model number for the commercial one?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGEthe front label was missing. On the stamp it reads 954077101A
Interesting as that mower is exactly the same as mine only with the Craftsman logo. Mine is finally exhibiting an issue that I will have to deal with this year yet, has the sound of the mower bogging down in taller grass; sounds almost like a food processor processing dough. The self propelled works fine but it almost seems like the belt is the issue? I will have to remove the cover and check it being a 2013 model. Maybe this rings a bell with the sound feature. Wasn't sure if I was going to make it through the back yard today with the noise but being I was replacing my deck complete I did not have time to deal with it today. 600 square foot deck and about 3/4 through replacement of the topping, the rest is sound. Project for the year. 😀
when was the last time the oil was checked and changed?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Royal Purple on schedule, thinking bearing failure?
no, just piston ring wear. Do you sharpen your blade?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE It's not like it is losing power, just makes a noise like the belt for the drive has had it. I will pull the cover in the next couple of days and see what it looks like, I will also sharpen the blade as no I have not done that since I purchased it.. Bad admission I know but I have inspected it and frankly it has always looked better then I would expect. I will get back to you on this one and let you know what I find.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Well I found the issue and to say the least not proud of it. About 3 inches of compacted grass under the deck, cleaned it and runs like a top once more.
One thing I’ve noticed about these mowers is that they tend to have transmission and front end problems. I’ve pulled some of these things apart and the plastic gears they use in them end up broken into fragments.
yes, they are not meant to last for me than a couple of years.
If a person isnt familiar with lawn mower repair taking it to a shop is much more than 13 dollars. My mower wouldn't stop I took it to the local shop that charged me 98 dollars.......85 diagnostic plus parts to rebuild the carb. Personally I took it on the chin, went home, mowed my yard and spent 2 hours on TH-cam learning how to do it myself. Since then I cleaned the carb with no parts twice for free and gotten multiple mowers started for others. I now use a Makita electric mower......but I saved myself and some freinds in my opinion close to a thousand bucks with some simple tweaks of a seemingly its broke throw it away mower.
thank you Taylexwow.
Also one has to consider did he have a way to get it to the repair shop how far away was the repair shop and do they work on Hondas have a good day
thank you John Lee Richardson.
That’s just a older style Craftsman circa 2003 rebranded. Same style deck, engine, and all. I’ve noticed in the past few years they’ve been taking push mower designs from the early 2000s and rebranding them under “off brand” names
thanks for the information
$30 worth of parts is a whole lot cheaper then $400+ for a new one. A little TLC goes a long way.
you're absolutely right about that.
I have a couple thoughts and questions. Why do you think the one wheel was completely bald? The others look like they are in good shape. Wheels are not usually inexpensive so I can understand why they would not replace it especially if they didn’t go for a 13.00 recoil. Secondly, the self propel system not returning might be a cause for someone to put a mower on the curb. This happens mostly because people tend to think they are more complicated than they are. Lack of knowledge and patience are sure fire ways that equipment gets kicked to the curb. Literally.
the cable is extremely rusty, and after some time, cable has freed up nicely and the transmission moves very well now. as for the wheel, I'm not sure why, so your guess is as good as mine.
@3:29 Yep, it’s a Honda!
Plot twist, it was still in use from the owner 😂
thank you XenOn.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE no thank you👍
We have a new mower used probably twice. Bought as a gift from my in laws. It won’t start now. No idea why since it was new and we don’t have receipt and in laws threw it away, plus I’m sure it’s way past return policy what could cause a new black max law mower to not start
it's mostly fuel related, either the stuff that's made it to the carb is bad or it's closed up the main jet already. unfortunately I don't have enough information to give a better answer
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say they didn't fix it because, well it's been a good few years, and they probably thought it high time to upgrade.
I think you're right.
20 to 30 dollars if overall condition waz decent. Rust can be removed and then painted if desired.
that's the only this ones going to look good.
They probably don't have the know how or tools to replace it. Nothing against them..some people would rather get another mower used then fix theirs
I think you're right G Machine.
I recently started to compare prices to items i bought in the past. According to you, a blackmax new mower would be 400$. That is the price i paid for an electronic that i use for driving virtual cars and virtual mowing... Not a very well planned purchase.
well I'm sure it seem good at the time, thank you Vipex134
take some sandpaper to that rust and just use a can of silver paint to refresh it. it's actually in good shape
thank you Christopher Tyler.
might consider salvaging the engine and place it on another frame.
I think that's definitely a good idea.
Left front drive wheel is completely bald. Those wheels can be expensive. Strange that there was so much asymmetry between the two front wheels.
I know right. still trying to figure that one out, thank you Brandon Snider.
They leak oil there because it needs cup seal Honda does not put on the governor shaft.
it only leaks there over time, typically from running it low on oil. the seal is there to fix the wear.
They needed one with an electric start.
quite possible, I'm getting tired of pulling a rope too.
Looks like it was stored outside, and never cleaned off. Each little thing that was wrong was a band-aid fix, and it just became too overwhelming it seems. Did the yard have a steep incline? Odd wear only on that one wheel. Looks like a lot of time and parts to get it in good running order without looking like a bodge job.
very perceptive of you, the front yard is at about 10 to 15° but their backyard is mostly flat.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Lawnmower CSI 😹
@@TheLawnmowerLady hear is a topic to consider addressing Stella.
Steep or declining yards, would a splash oiling mower engine damage the engine quicker due to lubrication, compared to say a spraying oiling system on the Tecumseh engine.
@@rickthelian2215 That was always the best selling point on those old 2-stroker Lawn-Boy mowers. You could run them nearly upside down. Interesting thoughts on the Tecumseh 🤔
@@TheLawnmowerLady in Australia the 2 Stroke was popular on the Victa Mowers, which. I have a few about for use, though use plenty of fuel compared to 4 strokes, but due to higher torque range they are great to cut wet or longer grass.
Looks like they could only afford to replace one of the front wheels a few years ago.
oh, that would make sense why one is bald. thanks for that Yeah Boi.
I personally wouldn't spend more than $20 to save a mower. My guess is that they were sick of fixing it and somebody gave them a newer one.
I think you're right.
Might be he didn't know how to fix it and repair shops are busy at this time of year and can take a few weeks to get it back again so might have just decided as it older mower just to buy a new one.
you might be right, repair shops could be scheduled out for weeks with people not being to buy a new mower, due to the rising cost of stuff.
So who makes Black Max, are they another AYP brand? It kind of just looks like an average Craftsman or Husqvarna mower from that era, are they anything special?
not sure, maybe someone else can answer that one.
with those spider webs this was probably in a shed that they cleaned out and they probably assumed it didnt work and just threw it out to save time
you might be right.
They might of had another lawnmower in their shed people throw away lawnmowers for dumb reasons a lot of people won’t fix their lawnmower when it break a lot of times people throw them away for other people to enjoy them I have found a lot of lawnmowers that had nothing wrong with them
you are correct some people feel like buying a new mower is the only answer.
$16.00 to $23.00 for parts…. $400.00 for a new mower… hmmm I’ll let them do the math.
I know, the math speaks for itself.
Some people are too lazy to properly maintain the stuff they buy. Bottom line is LAZY ASS SYNDROME
yes the LAS will get you the end.
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thanks!
I hate this choke system.
me too.
I would take wheels off and lube them. If your not willing to do it, no sense in trying to fix it. It shows you really don't want this mower. I would just keep the engine and throw the rest away.
hmm. it's not a terrible mower, to be honest, I'll show in a different video about lubing with and without taking off the wheels
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE $23 for a mower with Honda engine is good deal. You can alternate use with the Honda mower. Or put someone behind it to help you.
And yet a another honda mower lol
yes but only honda engine.
Lol
Who cares why it was thrown out. We just want to see you assess conditions, clean it up and get it working
ah, straight to the point.
I have an idea why he/she gave it away he probably switched to electric
I think you might be right.
I never realized that you would reply
Some (many) don’t realize that $20 could have this going and don’t have the skills or interest to diy this. And shops might take unfair advantage of you, so cut your losses and get a different one. Used mowers can be had for $100. A shop might take you for $100 just to look at it and it was probably $299 or less new at the time.
you are absolutely correct.
Blackmax mowers are junk now. Everything that can be plastic is
thank you Anthony Boitnott.