Aiming for Maximum Oversteer (and failing but at least it looks like a Supra) | Automation / BeamNG
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- Today, in Automation and BeamNG, we build and test a car designed exclusively for the purpose of oversteering. Did I achieve my goal? Well, yes and no...
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*still tries to drift with traction control on*
same thought xD
Traction control fuuuu
I though the last video where he possibly *built a budget car, will race tyres*
What is he..... slap train??
Please consider considering turning off traction control while drifting Consider, or at least take it into consideration
When stability control actually affects stability of the universe.
Did you know?
Before ESC world was 120FPS? Now it's only 30!
Pretty much
@@ConsiderGaming Esc controls your traction control too.. thats why you where having 'weird acceleration' it was just the traction stopping the car from accelerating to prevent wheelspin
@@ConsiderGaming I think I need to find a online drift build for the rx7 as I'm struggling to control the drift
Edit: In gt6
For Maximum Oversteer
1. Turn ESC Off
2. Use Mid Rear Engine Car
3. Destroy Weight Distribution
4. use skinny af tires
"Mid rear engine"
Wut?
@@GewelReal Rear-mid engine is the more specific designation for a "traditional" mid engine car (i.e. when you think mid engine cars, you think rear-mid engine). Cars with the engine in front of the cockpit can also still be mid engined, and those are front-mid engine. Think S2000.
I´m almost sure that Rear-Rear would oversteer more. But that would be undriveable without a lot of downforce.
@@Tunerguy21 Mid engine cars are the most stable of them all, if you want to oversteer put the engine on the front
So it's basically a depressive Japanese businessman car.
You have the money to buy it, not the time to drive it and both you and it want to die.
You probably had a bad time with the first Accolade cause you had TC on, that's the reason you can't drift since the TC On since its supposed to help the car not slide, turn that off and it should be terrifying to drive :) Edit: Saw that you turned TC Off later, Not sure why it lags the game tho, anyways great video!
TC stands for Traction Control. And do you really think that he doesn't know what traction control does?
@@ollysza2833 He probably doesn't / he forgot to disable it. All the issues he complained about were caused by the TC.
@@ollysza2833 Yeah, i know that it stands for Traction Control and i know that i didn't formulate it right. But why he couldn't drift wasn't just TC since as you say, The TC will try to eliminate wheelspin and that was one of the reason he couldn't slide well but the ESC is also holding the car back from drifting since its supposed to keep the driver from losing control. I am sure you already know all this and i am sure he know what TC stands for but i just wanted to point out why i thought it behaved like it did. Nothing more :)
How does he come up with the car names like those names are very creative
Accolade was a computer game maker in the early nineties, mainly for dos games I believe. Could be a coincidence, tho
He is a mad lad what did ya expect?
Remember the Test Drive series?
You mean Best Drive. TDU is still the best racing franchise change my mind
@@ConsiderGaming ok but how u come up with all the names?
oH YeAh LeTS gO drIFtIng
>leaves esc on
rvdicvlsuicide he lags allot
@@MehLewH makes literally no sense
Doesn't guzzle 10 liters a meter, not a real supra
inb4 the next engine is a tiny V12 that max revs out at 5k
Sounds like 50hp of pure agony and gasoline gurgling
Or "diesel" (aka maybe Audi Q7 V12 TDI)
@@GewelReal no diesels in this game
69 Likes should i ruin it ?
foxy126 PL that’s why he put “diesel” in quotations
I would like to see two more cars:
-A street legal drag car ispired by the Demon (with semi slicks, a v8, mayby install a supercharger mod)
-A supercar inspired by a Ferrari (v8 naturaly aspired, rear wheel drive)
Yeah, clasically styled muscle car tuned into a drag machine that literally cannot turn.
CrazyChemistPL the no turning comes simply from the creator not the car
-There are no superchargers
-High revving engines are bugged
So no
Ignacio Romero what about mods
@@denisg2719 There aren't any engine mods. You can add a supercharger by modifying the car files, but it's difficult
consider incorporated: "OK! so hows our new car going?"
designer: well it moves.
consider ceo: "GOOD ENOUGH!"
All these people talking about traction control, clearly all you need is *eurobeat*
Yes.
De. Ja. Vu.
"WHY DOESN'T IT DRIFT?" he says using traction control
the only reason why the acceleration "stutters" is because you have ESC on which tries to stabilize the car when it detects wheelspin / instsability and lets off the throttle
if you look at the ESC every time you "lose power" you notice its blinking
Makes sense. Tbh forgot I even added ESC when I got to testing it lol. Unfortunately though turning it off just created more issues
How to oversteer:
1: a lot of power
2: less weight possible
3: bike tires rear, massive tires front
4: max camber front
5: rear engine
6: more weight in the rear
7: hard long life or off road tires
Consider, what you have done is that you have made an economical track day car.
I missed my target and hit and even smaller one lol
It looks like the front of a supra and the back of a s2000
nick keszthelyi it’s like the bastard child of a Supra front corvette rear and Ferrari middle
Kinda sounds like a 350z
And sounds like a 350z
Idea 4 season 3. Make a cominturismo 4x4 based off the Lada Niva. Make it an inline 3 with min 50hp and try to get the most torque out of it
Fiat Panda 4x4
@Poorly Reported tbf, Chevy did rebadge the Niva for a little while :P
I got a car with 100 horsepower and 70something mpg. It's light, so i'm sure it would be quickish. If the rear wheels didn't break on spawn.
Make them wider and put 15' or 16' wheels
@@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav it was a modded body, the 90s Future one.
Consider we he finishes the accolade:
Did I make a good slidey boi
Accolade: Well yes but actually no
Omgayd it a poopra
Z4*
Rafee
No, a Poopra.
Like Sliphantom’s Poopra.
@@thejay8963 oh okay
@@thejay8963 ah yes that thing
Mrbean Mini but with V6 600hp
I once put a turbo V12 in a Mini and boy did that have turbo lag , it's like fine, fine fine (gets to 5k rpm) BRRUUUUUUMMM and it crashes into a wall
VTEC in mini
deodorant
Front - Supra
Back - Corvette
Result - New Tokyo Drift King
Yes.
At least it's better than all of my Automation cars.
And I know I commented before I saw the final car, but I already know because I suck.
3 things.
1:This video was oddly hilarious.
2:Can’t wait to see the AE86!
3:When are you going to upload your livestreams to here? (maybe you already did and I can’t see it)
Keep up the great work dude!
Had similar problems with a "Rally" car I was trying to make, acceleration was slow and stuttering. Turned out that the spacing was way too low and the esc was messing it up
Turn esc off ye dummy
Well, 17:30
*proceeds to remove the esc key from the keyboard*
Watch the video ye dummy
He lags allot when he does it
Not gonna like because its at 420
Kawaii-Chan, from the creators of Ember-San.
Edit: *Have you ever regretted posting something?*
Fantastic Vid Consider! I only found your channel Friday and I've already binged watched all of the Autolympics. I don't know if you take suggestions but if you do, I've got two:
1.) A V8 Shooting Brake
2.) An uninspiring V12 Italian Grand Tourer (Basically a Ferrari California but with a bigger engine and more bland)
Keep it up.
I think the "knocking at 0% yet the game says otherwise" is because the engine has a little bit of knocking, just not enough to make it to 1% and the game just rounds it down for the player
Make the Accolade GT Turbo, Understeer, Understeer and MORE Understeer (FWD) Nice Video♥️
One advice: before porting a car to beamng unselect any type of traction control or esc, otherwise it might not only bug your car, but your game too. Also, if you're creating ultimate machines unselect abs also, otherwise abs will apply 0 pressure to the brakes, forcing you to use only engine brake and handbrake. XD
Hopefully, these bugs will be fixed in the future ( like the turbo glitch), but until then we kinda have to work around these features.
What does it bug about the game? Is it that the normal beam Ng cars don't have working wastegates because that's a problem I have
Automation handles brakes very poorly. The only real IRl Reason to run oversized brakes is one better cooling, and 2 better wear/ life....you can get stupid high brake force from even a simple one piston setup.
But automation just cranks the diel to 11 and in order to get decent cooling performance brakes your brake force will be so much higher then tire grip they will lock up with 2% pedal. IRl you would tune brake force to down to match the grip of your tires at the speeds you plan to run at
@@lostgps3005 From what I know turbos have been fixed now, but the bug has been replaced with stability control one (basically it cut too much and too often power and lots of it. And when it comes to braking the game, for eg: I have two cars that have esc, if I try to drive with esc off it crashes, but not all the cars). XD
@@tidusklein3387 Yes, they are two diffrent games and so the appearence of the compability issues. PS: I wouldn't say automation handles brakes poorly, but at least different than beamng.
Consider: A TH-camr that actually spends time to make a good video.
Thanks fam :D
@@ConsiderGaming i have an idea, hear me out: A 2010s, RWD, Mid-Engined sports coupe that has an insanely short wheelbase but with like 250 horsepower.
This series is the only thing I look forward to on TH-cam
that lap time he does is actually an original track on gran turismo
ESC was also the reason it wasn't accelerating smoothly. You were punching the gas coming out of corners which caused some wheel spin, then ESC stepped in to stop the wheel spin by applying some breaks which caused your revs to drop.
Now that Consider made the Mayan based off the Aztek, he needs to make another car called the “Incan”
Legit that has been planned since season 1 lol. Had to push it to season 3, tho
Consider ooooohhhh
Make a car from like 1920-1930 with from 60-120 hp. Bicycle type wheels and everything. Would be a really interesting build.
Put an I6 with 9k RPM
3:33 "Let's play with this a second longer and see if any more comes out."
You do you, Consider.
Looks like a cross between a Supra, a Tesla, and a Crossfire. Amazing.
7:27 “Well what I’ve made here is a Supra” Attaches R34 headlights
"its still kinda disappointing, i don't know".... Congrats you perfectly replicated the experience of owning a supra.
I love this opening music, it fits so well with a car commercial
Hope your eyes are doing well;)
In regards of creating the oversteering beast:
Solid axle is your friend as well as 400+hp accompanied with short gears.
No camber on the rear as well as thinner the tire the better. If you want to be little technical, graphs of yaw rate/steering angle are your friends(low and high speed). To make the car oversteer as hell, make everything possible so that the yellow curve is shooting up to the sky at the end of the graph xD
Also, only assisst you "need" is abs, everything else is useless in this case. To help the cause even more, give the breaking bias all the way to the rear.
If everything is done correctly, good luck getting to speed and not spinning xD
Loading Automation cars into Beam NG has been a thorn in my side as well. At times it completely and utterly breaks the import, sometimes it crashes completely and at other times it loads fine except for the sounds. Haven't had engine fuckups _yet,_ but I'm expecting those soon too.
I've never had that problem, but I haven't used mods, so that may be why.
"Its having problems revving"
Yea id have troubles too if i had some electronic assistants preventing me from doing my thing.
Usually for oversteer I'd usually put huge wide wheels, while making both the rear and front as wide as possible. I don't know if this'll work, but hey that's what I try to avoid doing for oversteer.
God i love your content! Keep the good stuff coming! Maybe you could some sort of Hummer/Humvee with an enormous diesel v8. If you want something with a bit more personnality, something like a super-lifted 24" wheels riced pickup could be funny. You could make it very top heavy and unstable by giving it a short wheelbass
there are no diesels in the game
@@SteveOnlin rip
@@raphprev7312 and 24" don't exsist also
Hi bro! I have an idea for your next video!
So, do a French Compact car with a lot of tecnology and a lot of electrical problems Something like a Peugeot 206 Or a Renault Clio... And make it sooooo underpowered 75 hp to 90...
So a French berry?
Le Berry
I still wonder why you didn't model your oversteer monster after the MR2. You know the deadliest oversteering car ever
My friend thought it would be a good Idea to make a Mr2 project drift car. He is an experienced drifter so am I. Anyway He crashed it.
You should have a "special" car series where you try to build a car for a certain category, drift, drag, rally, off-road, etc
I think we've all made that -one- cursed car in Automation that BeamNG does not like for whatever bizarre reason. They are best to be forgotten
I tried making my own deluxobox and the suspension just broke and the tires just flipped around, I don't know what I did wrong
Never have I ever clicked on a consider video so fast I my life. Never have I ever opened it through notifications either
You better have made an actual oversteer monster
Edit: Wow, first time your cars got more than 100 horsepower without going back to tweak anything, great job, have a cookie 🍪
1. Turn Traction Control OFF.
Except for this... I think it's your first car done well... Engine wise at least.
Pushrod suspension is for full time race cars or high level HyperCars that are track focused.
Semi suspension is out dated technology, not even mentioning leaf or coil 😂 best to go for double or multi wishbone.
Rest of it was done well :3
I'll take it lol
Next vehicle: 1970s offroad pickup truck
I still love your intros.
Plus the car looks sexy...
Build a Japanese Kei car that follows with the 660cc regulations that were put in during the late 90's
Make something like a Rolls Royce with a luxury interior.
Dood
Car looks good
But BeamNG ESC is wack and you should shut it off for all cars.
Just an FYI
Ya know what I was thinking, the world needs a Cominturismo truck. Not just any ordinary truck though, a pickup truck. And why? Why not?
Lol yeah this has been coming up a bunch lately. It'll happen sometime
The car I’d most want to see in the future would be like a massive old American car, like a 70s Lincoln or Caddy, but with a huge V8 that makes a ton of power.
Some great design decisions. I'll be taking some inspiration for my own -crapboxes- cars in Automation / Beam.
Also, apologies for missing your latest Sunday stream. 6AM didn't work for me.
Also also, the new Automation / Beam update adds exhaust smoke emitters (at least to stock exhausts) *and* I managed to overheat the engine, so that's a thing now. Yay (?)
Waiting for my cellar life documentary in the sims
That woupd be funny, lol. (Consider feed us pls we need food)
It looks like a mix between a Marcos Mantis, Toyota Supra, and Vauxhall VX220 with the handling of a semi truck with 5000 hp. It looks nice.
You mentioned 100fps. What CPU and video card are you running?
I have a laptop with an external gpu rx580 and an i7 3840qm processor and 60 is tough for me. I think the external gpu is killing some of my performance and the quad core processor is only 2.8ghz with 3.8ghz turbo.
I need to disassemble my external gpu setup so I can build my desktop with a ryzen 7 2700x.
Check my about page for pc specs :)
Accolade don't have ESC OFF mode, it haves "No lagging mode off". It just spinns you FPS down ;D
Pretty much!
to fix oversteer, the distance between each wheel must be minimum, the engine must be on the back (rear) and rear drive, short gearing and loose suspension, also the rear tires must be stulidly wide and front tiny
3:11 That's the engine efficiency, not the fuel economy, just so you know.
Around 24% is normal, above 30 for eco cars (city cars/ hybrids), and around 15% for race cars (not sport cars or supercars, only full on race cars)
You're getting better
PS: The ESC...
I've really been enjoying the series thus far, though if you're still looking for ideas I've just realised this game has a V16 add-on. How about something with just the most power possible (probably good to give it some nerfs to counter this however, but since I'm not great with cars I'm not sure how this could be done. Perhaps just make it a bus. :/)
4:15 WHAT’RE YOU TALKING ABOUT! THE COMINTURISMO HAS THE HORSEPOWER OF 100 POTATOES
When you are tuning a car, look at the grids. It will help you tune it to perfection. It's what I do with all of my cars.
Consider: look a version 2 lots of problems solved
Car: "has esc on"
Consider: what I don't get why It doesn't want to oversteer like crazy?!?!?!
Hey atleast it is kind of a supra
*A thing we don't have in most racing games anymore ;~;*
I would've called it tee yotota poopra
3:14 *that's a better curve than I'm normally capable of I'm actually kind off excited about that* consider~2019
I think I have the perfect idea for a car... how about a vehicle worthy to be featured in a spy film, like how the DB5 is synonymous with 007. Bummer that gadgets can’t be created in Automation, though.
make those pop up texts like half a second longer so we dont have to pause haha love the content
Lmao I keep making them shorter and shorter and you are the first one to really say anything about it XD
The "Happy front" looked so much better
looks like 2019 supra, or maybe that's the supra you were talking about
Kinda. To me it kinda looks like what an in between model year would have looked like
Toyota Supra front bumper / Ferrari FF front half / Tesla X cross Chrysler Crossfire back end. GG
I know you disabled the ESC later on, but when you were talking about a lack of 'low end power', that was the ESC limiting the throttle to prevent oversteer.
The ESC was causing your revving problems. Electronic stability control will try to stop wheelspin and improve traction by affecting/limiting how the engine revs.
Aiming for maximum oversteer
MR2:Welcome to the club buddy
You should look at some viewer car submissions. I could send over some fun stuff lol
I have an idea... A *REALLY* powerful golf cart
with like an inline 4
Edit: It’s a joke btw
Your wheelbase is too short for good drifting
Gewel ✔ also had traction control on
So far i dont think you have done anything with boxer engine. Would be intresting to see a rear engine rear wheel drive boxer that have very good handling and fun to drive but not alot of horses. Design could be anything but looking like a first generation Porsche 911 could be nice. Again just a idea but thought it could be nice to have a car for once with a boxer :)
There will probably be another boxer this season... if not though, at least theres the Nopal XD
Did the accolade 1 have the same problems with the ESC turned off?
Yeah
@@ConsiderGaming Should have gone Naturally aspirated...
Idea: SUV supercar? If you take up this challenge, I want you to try solid axles.
The New Toyota Supra: aiming for a legend (and failing but atleast it looks like a Turtle)
I look forward to every automation video fr 😂
Super-RA
also 7:48 looked really good
should've went with that
I would say you need to test it on West coast. Wait, for season 3 can you do the lap times in the west coast track?? That would be amazing
Make the car we all used to draw in first grade. I don't care how it runs, you just gotta murder the outside with everything available.
I was thinking you would make a car with an angle kit. Also: i have an idea for a future ute: it has an inline 5, but here's the kicker: IT IS FRONT WHEEL DRIVE. That's it. And it has 250hp
Will you continue the idea of manufacturers? Really liking it so far.
Yup! Season 3 will probably see team rivalries and such as well
The reason you were having those issues with revving and low end power is because you had stability control (ESC) on in BeamNG. It does that because it cuts engine power when the wheels start to spin to keep it from sliding. hope this helped. EDIT: oh oof you already knew that...
That's the mix between a Supra and a CrossFire
I click off the tab
come back
and see that the car is called kawaii.
what a mad vlad
Idea: Make a super cheap V12 sports car, like the Jaguar XJS V12. Make sure it is super unreliable.