Jenny Wiley Captured by Cherokee and Shawnee Indians in Eastern Kentucky in 1787 (Ep. 1 of 3)

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  • @zerozero9085
    @zerozero9085 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Jenny Wiley is my many times great G'ma. Thank you for covering her story. Her grave is way up in the woods, alone and quiet. Spooky

    • @mairiconnell6282
      @mairiconnell6282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It seems that you have any relations on here. 🤣I am related to William Wallace! Mary Queen of Scots! Not. Have you touched out to all of your other relations on here. Mrs Wiley must have been quite a woman to have so many grandchildren five times removed.

  • @elizabethbogle3533
    @elizabethbogle3533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Jenny Wiley was my 5th great grandmother. Im glad to see a story about her.

    • @melissawilson8877
      @melissawilson8877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She is my 6 th grandmother!

    • @nancytestani1470
      @nancytestani1470 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow..

    • @lindsey974
      @lindsey974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine too!

    • @SabrinaA-fj3bl
      @SabrinaA-fj3bl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s my 8th generation grandmother. What a woman!

    • @GlenSmith-rc7pz
      @GlenSmith-rc7pz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😮😢😅❤

  • @ropeburnsrussell
    @ropeburnsrussell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I am from New England , parts of my family go back to colonial times.
    It is fascinating to discover the history of the southern colonies, which parallels our conflicts with the native peoples.
    I look forward to the remainder of this series and support the mission of this channel.
    This warfare was brutal and genocidal on both sides.
    But it happened and shouldn't be swept under the rug.

    • @jannarkiewicz633
      @jannarkiewicz633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My grandparents owned the 1686 House in Kingston, New Hampshire. Quite a piece of history.

    • @corneliuswowbagger
      @corneliuswowbagger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My ancestors ended up in the upper Ohio Valley and eventually their descendants except me went to Western Ohio, Texas, and California. I live in one of the the higher parts of the Alleghenies near the West Virginia-Maryland border. The border wars were brutal, but the natives were incorporated into the culture and ultimately blood lines. I have met many in passing, who are a significant percentage native! I have done several genetic tests including both x and y dna and was surprised I am not. Jenny Wiley interests me as I have done done a lot of geologic work in the New River including the last geologic maps of the gorge.

    • @skdjirrrdjdm3926
      @skdjirrrdjdm3926 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@wowbagger3505 growing up we were always told we had Cherokee ancestry too, alas 23&me showed no trace. However, I discovered we're related to several prominent slave traders and high ranking kkk members, yikes! I was better off living with the romantic fantasy of Cherokee ancestry LOL

    • @ladybird-orginal
      @ladybird-orginal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@skdjirrrdjdm3926. Don't give up on Cherokee being apart if your DNA You'll have to go thru The Cherokee Nation in TAHLEQUAH, OK

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@skdjirrrdjdm3926we heard the same thing, but my dna test showed zero native dna.

  • @2gpowell
    @2gpowell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Love, your presentations. History that needs to be taught not re-written !

  • @AndNowIWrite
    @AndNowIWrite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Jenny is on my family tree. My great grandmother Victoria Meade Stepp, a Native American descendant, always talked about this story whenever I would stay with her.

    • @magicray5088
      @magicray5088 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      my grandmother would tell bedtime stories about Jenny and she was a Full blooded indian from the Kanawha area to the western southern part of West Virginia , Kentucky border area as well ... She was raised by white parents and never knew her own indian parents ... but her stories would scare me and my cousins / her grandchildren pretty good... we would not go off in the woods after hearing about these stories ... brutal were these stores ... dead babies , cries of children in the night .... river crossing / one side or river your safe and the other not so much....

    • @AndNowIWrite
      @AndNowIWrite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @magicray5088 My great-grandmother would tell us how, when her grandmother's people (Native Americans) would come to visit, they'd get rowdy, and she'd end up feeding them hominy Lol. I wish I'd asked her more questions as a child. There's horror stories on both sides, the story handed down in my family is that my g.g.g. grandmother's family (native American) was killed by white men and at age 12 one of the men took her and kept her.

    • @magicray5088
      @magicray5088 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your stores sound alot like my grandmother and they kept people or kids for years in that area ... if you were out and about you were not safe, well mainly in some areas, as my grandmother would tell it... she was taken at a young age but she said she was glad to be taken in by white people Thier last name was the Markums ( I am not sure about the spelling ) she was the best Grandmother and the most loving woman ever. My German grandfather married her as his second wife and he was more than 14 years older than her , she never remarried when he died ( 1979) .... she lived to 96 years old and died in a nursing (2011) home... @@AndNowIWrite

    • @joshmaxwell7968
      @joshmaxwell7968 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My grandma was a Stepp...many of em up here in central Ohio... she told me about Moses, great story.

  • @appalachianamerican7171
    @appalachianamerican7171 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Thanks from Prestonsburg, KY.
    Home of Jenny Wiley state park.

    • @mariewheeler5626
      @mariewheeler5626 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Beautiful park. Years ago, I visited the park, and it was part of a honeymoon package back in 1980. I'm a Southwest Native American. While visiting the park, I found the history of the area intriguing.

  • @birddog7492
    @birddog7492 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Matthias Harman was my eighth great Grandad. Thank you for these great stories.

    • @joeatwell2644
      @joeatwell2644 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am related to Harmans from Abbs valley,Tazewell County VA

    • @birddog7492
      @birddog7492 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@joeatwell2644 It's good to hear from kin folk. I live in WV, my father was from White wood Buckhanan Co., Va. My second G grandmother was Elizabeath Suson Harman. She was married to Alexander Vance.

    • @elizabethbogle3533
      @elizabethbogle3533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@birddog7492my ancestry on my maternal grandmother's side is from West Virginia. Wayne County. I have traced them back to Hezekiah Sellards.

  • @nancyadams9228
    @nancyadams9228 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thanks for this! I live in the Big Sandy Valley. I taught the descendants of these people and told her story. The diaries and reminiscences of 18th Century settlers provide a valuable resource for us in reconstructing the narratives of the past.

  • @jimd8008
    @jimd8008 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Thank you for another amazing episode

  • @walterwhiteboy4257
    @walterwhiteboy4257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    These tales are definitely great to hear considering they really aren’t covered by modern history channels etc as you say.

  • @markpalmer6760
    @markpalmer6760 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Always enjoy your unworthy history

  • @dw6090
    @dw6090 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    True history is always welcome, thanks

  • @sassyfrass4295
    @sassyfrass4295 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    really enjoyed this episode. nice images, too. looking forward to the other episodes.

  • @tobyplumlee7602
    @tobyplumlee7602 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you Sir for your fine videos! As an amateur historian of many years and a 9th generation American on both sides of pioneering families I find these videos fascinating! Please never stop producing them ❤️.

  • @deadhorse1391
    @deadhorse1391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thanks for another fascinating video!
    Is amazing to think about how things were here not that long ago

  • @Davidf8L
    @Davidf8L 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you from East Tennessee ❤

  • @hyacinthlady
    @hyacinthlady 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thank you! Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @APHill-ip8qt
    @APHill-ip8qt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    God bless you. Great content !

  • @cowboykelly6590
    @cowboykelly6590 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Unworthy History is Worthy . 🤠🖖♨️

  • @Sandbarfight
    @Sandbarfight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Another great episode Thank you for the top quality work enjoy the rest of your week.

  • @jeffreygibson1629
    @jeffreygibson1629 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Good job. I'm just starting to learn about frontier history. Interesting story, can't wait to see the next episode

  • @eunicestone6532
    @eunicestone6532 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Im from this area. Read this book when i was nine. Ive been looking for this! Thank you!!

  • @BWIL2515
    @BWIL2515 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Always look forward to your videos

  • @dogparty-tt8qw
    @dogparty-tt8qw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Left comment yesterday, don’t know why it didn’t post.
    Just joined you on Patreon, keep up the great work!

  • @MichaelTheophilus906
    @MichaelTheophilus906 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Daniel Boone was captured twice by the Indians, and managed to escape both times.

    • @elainegoad9777
      @elainegoad9777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      One of my ancestors named Goad, was captured with Boone by Shawnee/Pawnee and taken to Ohio but escaped with Boone.

  • @lambastepirate
    @lambastepirate 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great story thanks.

  • @sherrymccarty6957
    @sherrymccarty6957 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jane aka Jennie Sellards Wiley is my 5th Great Grandmother. I heard the "tale" of Jennie Wiley from my father, who was from WV, when I was a little girl. I am descended from 2 of Jennie's children, Mary Jane "Jenny" Wiley Williamson and Hezekiah Wiley. My grandparents were 2nd cousins! Thank you for presenting her history!

    • @mairiconnell6282
      @mairiconnell6282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am related to William Wallace! Mary Queen of Scots! Not. Have you touched out to all of your other relations on here. Mrs Wiley must have been quite a woman to have so many grandchildren five times removed.

  • @DarrenMcginn-w7f
    @DarrenMcginn-w7f 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice one Daryl well told

  • @michaelbillhymer8327
    @michaelbillhymer8327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Man, I love this stuff. I just looked for you on Patreon, didn’t find….

    • @unworthyhistory
      @unworthyhistory  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That seems like a really good idea. Just created a Patreon if you want to take a look: patreon.com/UnworthyHistory?Link&

  • @tyus1932
    @tyus1932 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this...I love it.

  • @juliecramer7768
    @juliecramer7768 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you!

  • @rustynaild4247
    @rustynaild4247 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great stuff. 👍

  • @a.urbanchuk513
    @a.urbanchuk513 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's would be today that history has no place. Unless it has been rewritten to suits others. I wS raised in a time where history was a part of who we are and we must accept that. The bad good and ugly. I have all the history books that people are trying to get rid of. History will never die. Or be Forgotten

  • @nelliesfarm8473
    @nelliesfarm8473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    There were many giants discovered buried in Kentucky... It was used as hunting grounds by my Cherokee ancestors only when absolutely necessary; most stayed away ...sometimes Cherokee were found to be buried along with the giants...its unclear why, but the land of Kentucky was generally feared back then. My maternal grandfather was full blooded Cherokee from Kentucky

    • @nelliesfarm8473
      @nelliesfarm8473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Dylan-kx6fc Im not familiar.. I wasn't raised Cherokee... I'm 53 now and trying to learn more about my heritage. My mother was half Cherokee, taught me how to make fry bread and that's all I knew of my heritage as a kid lol. My sons have done much research on the history of Kentucky and they are the ones who discovered the info about tribes fearing Kentucky..

    • @nelliesfarm8473
      @nelliesfarm8473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dylan-kx6fc there's so so much they have hidden from us about our true history... Not sure if you realize that

    • @skdjirrrdjdm3926
      @skdjirrrdjdm3926 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thats pretty cool! I've heard about archeologists finding remains of giants in different parts of the world, didn't know Kentucky was a hot spot for them though.

    • @ladybird-orginal
      @ladybird-orginal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Giants, they have pictures of them. From what I understood. Smithsonian came and got the bones. They took them to Washington DC and they got "lost". Nobody knows what happened to them!!

    • @jackiemack8653
      @jackiemack8653 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ladybird-orginalYes. Abraham Lincoln made a speech about giants after their bones were discovered I believe upstate NY.

  • @manleynelson9419
    @manleynelson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So think about this. A full-grown Indian chiefs son was trying to kill a 9 year old boy and was killed in the process instead. So the Chiefs father retaliated by killing a bunch of small children and taking a woman captive with her baby. The men who got in the Skirmish originally with that Cherokee Chief should have just killed him right then and there. And as far as people thinking the settlers tried to exterminate the Indians completely because that's the narrative in the schools today the schools today, that's absolutely untrue.

  • @brassteeth3355
    @brassteeth3355 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Our ancestors were tough.

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    How are you doing sir . Thank you for your wonderful cultural documentary channel. I gathered main information about famous figure you mentioned briefly here it’s Jenny Wiley ( 1760- 1831 ) she was born in British Columbia American. She was pioneer woman
    Who was taken captive by native Americans in 1789 where she witnessed death of her brother , children. She escaped after 11 months of captivity. Jenny willet state resort park in Peterborough Kentucky is named in her honor . She also honored by through bred horse race named in her honor and run each year at keen land race course in Lexington, Kentucky. Event of fillies and mares race is called Jenny Wiley stakes and attract some of best female horses in American horse racing . There are book about Jenny Wiley titled dark hills ; saga of Jenny Wiley . It’s real sad story when was young wife and mother at Virginia when band or Native Americans attacked her , killed her children and dragged her hundreds of Miles, across rugged hills and swollen rivals to wilderness of present day eastern Kentucky. Wiley family dog , which has been with her throughout her captivity,also survived mrs Wiley returned to her husband at walker creek and two relocated to Johnson county , where they had five more children . Thank god for happy end . Thank god in past I love history subject at school and watch Arabic historical television series . Now Iam subscriber to American historical TH-cam channel. We appreciate your great efforts as foreigners subscribers as overseas students want to increase our cultural level improve our English language as well. Merry Christmas happy new year. Best wishes for you your dearest ones .

    • @jillconnelly8206
      @jillconnelly8206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great effort here! I appreciate your effort to research and then turn the information into a comprehensive yet concise small "article." On the other hand, or converse, I'm in the U.S. and I love to study other cultures history in depth.

    • @Khatoon170
      @Khatoon170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you sir . Iam Arabic lady subscriber subscriber to several British and American TH-cam channels since Christmas 2019 . Happy new year.

  • @kickapootrackers7255
    @kickapootrackers7255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Good 👍

  • @58landman
    @58landman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love these stories.
    I wonder though if Ernest T. Bass ever declared for any of Hezekiah's daughters. He was a most skilled rock thrower and he could sang and he could make a garden and dig up a posskum with his bare fingernails. He was strong too and fast....Lord he was fast and nobody could ketch, even if'n they tried!

  • @jannarkiewicz633
    @jannarkiewicz633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I know it is 1910 jargon. The 2023 "noble savage" makes no sense -- Native Americans were pretty dang cruel as were settlers from Europe.

  • @mariewheeler5626
    @mariewheeler5626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was a Vanderbilt University professor who wrote a book, I believe the author's name is Arville Wheeler, he wrote a book called, White Squaw, the book is of Jenny Wiley. I was once married into the Wheeler clan.

  • @rachelperdue5947
    @rachelperdue5947 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the channel. Live in southwest WV. I collect old books such as the ones from which you read. Thanks for sharing!

  • @christigoth
    @christigoth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for telling the stories of what really happened in our history. instead of the baloney that's real PC nowadays.

  • @BillCheshire_Jr
    @BillCheshire_Jr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just goes to show that war is Never a good thing and to be avoided at all costs

  • @melanie1632
    @melanie1632 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    JENNY WILEY IS MY ANCESTOR MY PARENTS ARE BOTH FROM WEST VIRGINIA MY MATERNAL GRANDFATHER WAS A WILEY MY PATERNAL GRANDFATHER WAS A DALTON IM PROUD TO BE BOTH

  • @ZiggyWhiskerz
    @ZiggyWhiskerz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pronounced SASS-UH-FRASS. sassafras. Took me a minute to realize what you meant 😅

  • @ronniemitchell448
    @ronniemitchell448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Quick in mind and body for an Indian"?

  • @moestuegil490
    @moestuegil490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Is she the one they named the state park after

  • @chuckstapleton171
    @chuckstapleton171 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm proud to say. I'm related to her on both sides of my family. This lady had more strangth than wonder women.

  • @dewaltdig
    @dewaltdig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good Stuff

  • @Susan-oe1ht
    @Susan-oe1ht 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my ancestors traveled with Boone
    David Kincaid

  • @dougmorris5625
    @dougmorris5625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Check out Mary Jemison captured as a teenager and lived until age 90 with the indians.

  • @karenpeeks1396
    @karenpeeks1396 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting 👌 4.15pm

  • @angieacquasanta4213
    @angieacquasanta4213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Through genealogy my family found out that she was my 6th generation grandmother on my grandfather's side

  • @JudiOsborne-r6p
    @JudiOsborne-r6p 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My sister and I are also descendants of Jenny Wiley.

  • @manleynelson9419
    @manleynelson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once again I apologize for correction but for historical accuracy I can't let it pass it is not stress nor straasburg virginia. It is pronouned Strawsburg va

    • @manleynelson9419
      @manleynelson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's amazing I'll just honorable and cowardly these Indians were. People paint them as Noble Savages that are peaceful. When they were attacking women and children on purpose when the men weren't around and they were fleeing before the men returned because they didn't want any resistance. What a bunch of cowards

  • @thehorseman8271
    @thehorseman8271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @jennyandrews1671
    @jennyandrews1671 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow!

  • @manleynelson9419
    @manleynelson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to make a correction here. Hezekiah sellards what's not from the upper Shenandoah valley. The northern Shenandoah Valley is called the lower Shenandoah Valley because the Shenandoah River runs north therefore being lower than the southern part of the Shenandoah Valley. I don't mean to be nitpicky here but you could confuse a lot of people who do know the proper terms

  • @manleynelson9419
    @manleynelson9419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sorry to have to correct you again but there is no one that refers to the Shenandoah Valley and its environs or mountains as the Western Highlands of Virginia

  • @chichiboypumpi
    @chichiboypumpi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    won't be a show let alone a movie today

  • @judithmccrea2601
    @judithmccrea2601 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucky girl!

  • @angieacquasanta4213
    @angieacquasanta4213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His name was Ireland Wiley

  • @suzannakoizumi8605
    @suzannakoizumi8605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I heard her real bio father was indigenous.

  • @coraleeowensmiller7288
    @coraleeowensmiller7288 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Since the first slave owners were Indians

  • @judithmccrea2601
    @judithmccrea2601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucky woman.

  • @TimothyBaldwin-p9j
    @TimothyBaldwin-p9j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopewell Mounds

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The truth is it wasn't the Indians invading the white settlers it was the white settlers invading the land of the Cherokee nation. The Cherokee's had homes and schools and settled property. That's why the white soldiers went in first to establish a fort. My early family was one of the Irish who settled in West Virginia, the fringes of which bordered the Cherokee nation.

  • @MichaelTheophilus906
    @MichaelTheophilus906 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My great great grandmother was supposedly an Indian princess. No one in the family has Indian DNA. Get a DNA test, please.

    • @mariewheeler5626
      @mariewheeler5626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Indians? You mean Native American. We don't have princesses, kings, queens as such. The word is a European concept to assign "royalty " to an individual tribal member. It's a colonizer term!

    • @MichaelTheophilus906
      @MichaelTheophilus906 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariewheeler5626 What do you call them? Please tell me.

    • @ESNDN
      @ESNDN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MichaelTheophilus906 you call them, “the daughter of the Chief”. A woman leader is also called Chief.

    • @lorettadurbin4404
      @lorettadurbin4404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No such thing as a dang indian princess. Tell us, how many king or queen native Indians have you heard of? Oh, none you say. Then how does one get a princess? Why doesn't anyone claim my gpa was a cherokee prince. Im sorry if i come off as rude but im so sick of hearing the princess crap. IF there was a native princess in you family it would only be because a native was actually named Princess not because she was one.

    • @jillconnelly8206
      @jillconnelly8206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This was long the truth AS TOLD by both my family and my husband's family, mine was supposed to be Blackfoot and on my husband husband's side, Cherokee. Stories of how the intermarriage or offspring children occurred we all took for gospel truth. However, along comes DNA testing and 0% native am DNA on either side. His mother & sisters black hair would have to come from Irish, and my brothers firm belief he is part self styled 'mestizo' and shield of blackfeet nation on his social media along w efforts to "join the band" have become utterly ridiculous. Funny turn in the story, my father's father was adopted by a (100% "white", predominantly English man and took last name without formal adoption, his mother just took 2 kids by prior marriage, left, and married 2nd husband but not adopted w name change thru court. Biological father was "swarthy" complection and I think his mother was some kind of hungarian/turkish which led to some similar facial features to native am & easily tanned, black hair, etc. I was born with a shock of black hair as was 1 of my daughter's. (Later turned platinum blonde)SO it was easy to believe. My husband's fam lore was grandfather's parents supposed to have been tall daughter of chief cornstalk (cherokee) who cursed with moth man legend up in appalachian/Alleghany areas and his daughter had to take over governing their band and married a white/Irish ex military guy, Boling or Bowles and had alot of children, she and most of her children died from ? Smallpox. Sad story & is legitimate/factual. Just that my husband is not related or have any nat am DNA at all, which if 4-5 generations ago, would show on DNA testing.

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video starts at 1700

  • @lisacaudle1357
    @lisacaudle1357 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating story but storytelling is too fast.

  • @Jbritto
    @Jbritto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    "Savage bands", "mongrel hordes of painted Indians", "barbarians". It is interesting to note the language and selective nature of the history you are reporting. I wonder if you are merely reading severly dated materials, which still perpetuate this stereotypical vocabulary and simplified view of history, or if you are actually writing this way intentionally. I have come across several of your videos and appreciate your interest in local history. However, as an Indigenous person, I do find many of the narratives involving Indigenous history to be incomplete and one-sided.

    • @LionquestFitness
      @LionquestFitness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So raiding homesteads, murdering children, and kidnapping is not savage and barbaric? You forget these narratives were written close to the memories of those who experienced it. By the way, as an "Indigenous" person, do you just identify as one, or actually have a direct bloodline?

    • @Jbritto
      @Jbritto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Given that "barbarian" actually just refers to someone or something considered different from the society of the person writing the history, no, I would not define these acts as such. There are plenty of instances of American militia, military, and civilians murdering, mutilating, and enslaving Indigenous non-combatants, so to define such behavior as "different" really only does a disservice to both sides of history. I only want to call attention to why the vocabulary we use around these events needs to change. By only speaking to the attrocities committed by one group and generally labelling historical actions as "savage", many of these narratives written during and long after these events seem to attempt to justify retaliatory violence by dehumanizing Indigenous peoples.
      And yes, I know my family history and my culture, sir. It's interesting that anytime someone brings up a point about indigeneity or correcting historical misrepresentation, the opposition immediately expects you to produce your tribal ID or CDIB. Only 2 groups of beings are classified by blood quantum: dogs, horses, and Indians. Would you feel the need to ask any other ethnicity in the world that same question?

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Jbritto I agree it is very one sided but I believe so too is the written history. Sadly I don't know of much existence of the history of Kentucky written from the side of the Native Americans that lived it. My family history goes back in Kentucky from before Kentucky was a state and I know at least 2 of my ancestors were also native american but to be honest I know very little beyond their names and who they were married to. They didn't keep any kind of written records themselves and it has been several generations ago so the oral stories are all lost.

    • @mariewheeler5626
      @mariewheeler5626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I feel the same way. As a tribal member of the Navajo Nation, there are books, namely Bill O'Reilly's book of Kit Carson. He wasn't a good character, according to oral narratives. He killed Navajos through starvation, forced encampment (treated like animals), and use of germ warfare. Only 10% of my people survived the horrific attempted annihilation.

    • @LionquestFitness
      @LionquestFitness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jbritto, you said a lot without saying anything. It doesn't matter which side of a conflict savagery occurs; it is still savagery. Mongrel means mixed, and mixed eastern bands were known as Mingos and had no tribal affiliation. As well, referring to Native Americans as "indigenous peoples" is condescending and reeks of social justice platitudes. So yes, I question whether or not you have Native American ancestry or are someone who just identifies with being Native American.@@Jbritto

  • @godschild3640
    @godschild3640 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You mean the Nephilim, the Canaanites, the 28 tribes of the Nephilim Deuteronomy 20:17 Deuteronomy, 23:1 to 5 ,, there was the Nephilim before, and after the flood read your holy Bible