Ecoflow River 2 vs. Bluetti EB3A - Solar generator best portable battery station comparison

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  • Best portable solar battery station review comparison of ecoflow vs. bluetti river 2 mini and eb3a review and comparison of solar power station
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  • @WAZZLE2
    @WAZZLE2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The best review of anything I've seen on TH-cam. No silly music or going on about what they are having for tea and all that rubbish that normally applies to these reviews. Tells you exactly just what you need to know. Excellent!

  • @garyolson3315
    @garyolson3315 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I own both, and other Ecoflow solar generators. The Bluetti delivers more wattage, and mine is a variable fan, maybe due to a firmware update. The Ecoflow seems to be made like a tank. The Ecoflow sits under my car seat, which is great. You can't go wrong with either. Both top notch! Thanks for the video!

  • @djrickstartv
    @djrickstartv ปีที่แล้ว +30

    ecoFlow 5 years warranty, Bluetti 2 years warranty

    • @whydontyouaskme
      @whydontyouaskme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bluetti ignored me until the warranty ran out this is common with bluetti

  • @DaphneLowe
    @DaphneLowe ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review! This is the most comprehensive comparison on YT.

  • @kelvinballer23
    @kelvinballer23 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow appreciate the review! Exactly what I was looking for! I’m in the market and decided to pick up either one of these. They seem to currently be one of the best out on the market. I’m starting to lean more towards the River mini 2 but man can’t really seem to go wrong between either one! Thanks again for the thorough comparisons!

  • @Samebet455
    @Samebet455 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Efficient and effective review with no fluff, just all good stuff. Thank you!

  • @sofloflow
    @sofloflow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funny seeing you do a review on these. I dont actually use it for my RCs, but rather for running a fridge in my truck.

  • @geographyinaction7814
    @geographyinaction7814 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The Bluetti customer service, or lack thereof, is a good reason to go with Ecoflow. I find home charging, efficiency and speed to be a bit redundant, if you're going camping or anywhere you need a 'portable power station', you will charge it the day or night before and either unit will be ready. The real test is speed, and efficiency when you're in the sticks, depending on your 12v car system or solar.
    Having the edge when you're at home with all of the power you need is secondary to the off-grid performance, after all, they are portable for a reason. Again, both are great units, but Bluetti if you have a problem, good luck contacting them!

    • @veevmusic3579
      @veevmusic3579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I keep seeing this in my research for power stations about bluetti. I can't tell if it's paid FUD or real

  • @suryaprakashams
    @suryaprakashams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the way you put across the test and end use

  • @jesusherna
    @jesusherna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very helpful review!!! I wish all reviews were like this one!!!

  • @DoritosResidue
    @DoritosResidue ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I have both of these also. Did a couple dc fridge test on both. Very similar results with the eb3a edging out the ecoflow but not by much. Most likely because if the slightly higher capacity. These 2 are the best entry level solar generators in my opinion.

    • @otszzz79
      @otszzz79 ปีที่แล้ว

      My concern is. I lack of knowledge and skills to fix it if something is wrong. No service centers here in the area, only some repairshops who always scam people or even destroy more trying to repair it. But I do need something for the brownouts. Hope the lifespan is bit same as a quality 4stroke gasoline gen

    • @fritzstauffacher6931
      @fritzstauffacher6931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@otszzz79Not much to them. So far no issues with eba3 over a year fairly heavy use.

    • @otszzz79
      @otszzz79 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fritzstauffacher6931 too bad they ran out of stock here in Philippines for a while. Got me the lighter one ac50s. Works pretty well for my purposes

    • @audreet2141
      @audreet2141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How long did they run for? Ambient temp? 6-12hrs?

    • @DoritosResidue
      @DoritosResidue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@audreet2141 70 ambient. Ecoflows about 22 hours and the bluetti about 23 hours. Temp set at 34

  • @jperez007
    @jperez007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Exactly what I was looking for. Maybe you should've included in your review other categories like: battery life (cycles), warranty, 0%-50%/80% charge time.

  • @LuchoMBravo
    @LuchoMBravo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you very much for the very professional, friendly, down to earth, comparison of these two units. It has made it a lot simpler for me to chose which one I want. I like the compactness of the Ecoflow, the USB charging, and now that the price has dropped to $169, it's a no brainer. Also, I own an Ecoflow fridge and a Delta 2 generator, plus two Ecoflow solar panels. Makes it convenient to keep the software the same. I was under the impression that the Bluetti had a greater capacity than the smaller Ecoflow, but after seeing your comparison, the vantage is negligent in my opinion. In addition, currently the Ecoflow is $30 less/cheaper than the Bluetti. Although I had purchased the Bluetti, I am having a change of heart, and will go with the Ecoflow. Thank you once again for your great presentation.

  • @RCReviewChannel
    @RCReviewChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ecoflow River 2 - us.ecoflow.com/products/river-2-portable-power-station?aff=477
    Bluetti EB3a - shrsl.com/3xvcq
    Ecoflow river 2 Max - us.ecoflow.com/collections/river-series/products/river-2-max-portable-power-station?aff=477
    code EFPDRCREVIEW to get an extra 5% off

  • @aleftav12
    @aleftav12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best review of anything I have seen, brother! Love your honesty! No marketing and fair assessment of both! One can choose on what’s most important for them power or weight or power/weight ratio! I’m a lightweight guy so will go lightweight too on this! Will SUBSCRIBE because you’re that good! Blessings!…🙏p.s. mobile power will come in handy in the foreseeable future - so worth having off-grid capabilities, for coming emergencies as Earth’s vine is shaken…for good reason! Shalom Shalom🙏🔥🙌🏾

  • @user-es8kc7lr2q
    @user-es8kc7lr2q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job. Please consider doing a similar review on some of the more powerful units.

  • @doctorartphd6463
    @doctorartphd6463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the best assessment and review I have seen. Thank you for your research and time. .

  • @1GREATDANE
    @1GREATDANE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I opted for 2 Delta EF3 Pro 1300's and a River 2 Pro and Piggy Back all 3 Units for 3,300 watt hours of use, with Pass Thru Charging Option while Camping 2 160 Watt Eco Flow Portable Solar Panels charges them back up while The River 2 Pro Delivers the Goods and allows for Bluetooth Mentoring on The Fly. Bought on Black Friday at Greatly Reduced Prices for less than $1,800.00 That's Less than $0.50 Cents a Watt Hour and Plenty o Power and 5 Year Warranty is assurance in this Newer Technology and All Extension Solar Cables that I needed.

  • @RobertDeloyd
    @RobertDeloyd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They're both great units... I have Bluetti EB70 and also the Ecoflow River 2 and Pro units.

  • @waimeaguyz9074
    @waimeaguyz9074 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very helpful, thank you. I like the ecoflow.

  • @hegefarms4260
    @hegefarms4260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My New Bluetti turned it on this morning 2/17/24 pluged a small Refrigerator in the 110 volt outlet and it flashed SHORT in Red and Died. This was only the 2nd time ive used it

  • @sassygirl5237
    @sassygirl5237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boss ang galing nyo magreview, ang daming nagre-review dito sa youtube na either super technical binubuksan talaga ung loob or super babaw naman ng review papakita lang kung kaya yung mga appliances, pero sa inyo ganyan mismo hinahanap ko na kind of review. Yung review nyo, malalaman talaga kung sino mas efficient sa dalawa. Sana katulad nyo na lang din ang review ng iba.
    Sana maging standard yung way nyo ng pagreview ng ibang vloggers kasi maiintindihan ng maski hindi electrician ang review nyo then hindi din mababaw kasi detalyado, eksakto mga review nyo para malaman ng isang manunuod which is better talaga.

  • @michaeldorich4485
    @michaeldorich4485 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The audio was good. More importantly, you did an excellent, very thorough review.

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I finally understand these devices enough to provide meaningful insight.

  • @Woofvov
    @Woofvov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great review Francis! very thorough, very informative

  • @BroGu
    @BroGu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    很不错的评测,我决定还是入手Ecoflow River 2,现在Amazon才209!

  • @dreamcalculator
    @dreamcalculator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once I heard you talk I knew I was listening to a fellow Pinoy! Much love brother!!!

  • @kts8806
    @kts8806 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound worked for me!!

  • @Blasted_Rooster
    @Blasted_Rooster 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great review! helped me pivk the bluetti :D

  • @BufordPusser582
    @BufordPusser582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much. Great job!

  • @LIBERTYVIEWS
    @LIBERTYVIEWS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super comparison and testing! I have a champion 4500 dual fuel gen. with propane. I suspect I could use it to charge an Ecoflow River, if needed. Any guess as to how long it might take? Would it be comparable to AC charge time, for example? TIA.

  • @alexanderrikmanis8753
    @alexanderrikmanis8753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good test, thank you! Wish you did cover max DC output as well, I noticed that some (all?) power stations do not output as much as they should, like it was showing me 125W of DC outout on its screen but my tester (like yours) showed me only ~113W. Could be a tester's fault?

  • @lessofeverythingforever
    @lessofeverythingforever หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super neat review, thanks a lot! Shout out from Ukraine, I bet lot’s of us are watching your vid right now 🙂

  • @lippedgerm
    @lippedgerm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prices in Australia are through the roof for any of these products. Sucks being opposite side of the earth some times

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it really is crazy high over there. I guess that's why you have your own brands, just to get the prices reasonable.

  • @AzizanMohamad1
    @AzizanMohamad1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks👍

  • @kibs_6816
    @kibs_6816 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a Delta2 and was looking for a smaller one day trips only and strugling between these two. For two reasons the Bluetti won: double Solar input makes it more versatile. At least here in Germany EcoFlow devices are incredibly expensive!! I could grap the EB3A as a refurbished for €140 and the River2 will not be under €240!!! I like the form factor of the river far better and I do not like stuff I will never use like the wireles charging but the price advantage is too big...

    • @Mrstigger747
      @Mrstigger747 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think ecoflow has paid attention to the weather patterns of Europe and they have VASTLY underestimated the audience of campers in turkey, South Korea and Japan!

  • @angerskarin9222
    @angerskarin9222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Little side note, if you go with bluetti and your thing break you are screwed they have near none existent costumer support, and you cant charge and use it at the same time.

  • @xxxxxx46142
    @xxxxxx46142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which one is making the less noise overall?

  • @RealCopsReelLife
    @RealCopsReelLife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great comparison! I’ll take the Bluetti

  • @AA-ou8kl
    @AA-ou8kl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what's the biggest solar panel you can charge with and how long?

  • @marie-everouleau3577
    @marie-everouleau3577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello.... In your opinion which one is best to power a 12v cooler?
    Thanks

  • @boanergemorales9676
    @boanergemorales9676 ปีที่แล้ว

    i need help how long do you think one of these would power a jlb 110 partybox for 4 hours

  • @axellness
    @axellness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is the ecoflow good for lipo battery charging? i want to take it camping

  • @sassygirl5237
    @sassygirl5237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boss next review nyo naman po if Eco River Pro halimbawa can run a .75HP Aircon.. or maski ibang powerstation basta po sa Aircon

  • @mylife88dior
    @mylife88dior หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You bet. Loved working on it.

  • @user-ms4nu7sc8g
    @user-ms4nu7sc8g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me gustaría haceros una consulta, estoy pensando en pillar una de estas baterías sobre todo me decanto por la bluetti, pero veo en las condiciones técnicas que al menos para el uso la temperatura máxima que debe soportar es de 40ºC. Soy del sur, y lo quiero usar en la furgoneta para viajes, y en verano muchas veces el coche no queda a la sombra y la temperatura del coche puede ser alta...¿Hasta que punto esto puede afectar a la batería? ¿Hay alguna más resistente? He visto que la publicitan para uso en exterior incluso en zonas deserticas etc de modo que pienso que de agún modo esta preparada, no? Gracias por los comentarios!

  • @hyw079
    @hyw079 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you no longer doing MTBR?

  • @swysh2ks
    @swysh2ks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about solar panels comparison on cloudy sky?

  • @Whitepinoy
    @Whitepinoy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you didh't mention about the solar inputs

  • @newexe1818
    @newexe1818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please don't use wrong overhyped naming - this ones are power stations, not solal generators (in case when w/o solar panel)! Thanks!

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bluetti is NOTORIOUS for quality issues and jerking customers around when it comes to honoring their warranty.
    Stay far FAR away from Bluetti.

    • @aday1637
      @aday1637 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Precisely. If I hadn't just purchased the 3 of them within a week of failure I would have been stuck with them. As it turns out the store, where purchased honored their commitment to good product. But not Bluetti.

    • @TypicalBlox
      @TypicalBlox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This didn't age well, ecoflow's warranty has gone down the toilet

    • @ldt8904
      @ldt8904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TypicalBloxhow so? Did you have a bad experience?

    • @TypicalBlox
      @TypicalBlox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ldt8904 no just on fourms like reddit people always complaining

    • @japaneseotaku7532
      @japaneseotaku7532 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you elaborate further? I'm getting worried now of getting bluetti or ecoflow based on the replies on your comment

  • @MAKEITSTOP777
    @MAKEITSTOP777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought they updated the Bluetti screen to stay on?

  • @aday1637
    @aday1637 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I ordered several of the EB3A Bluetti's. All failed within one week (3 of them). I replaced them with 3 EcoFlow River2's 289 ah units. All the EcoFlows are working well. Bluetti has to know they have major problems but has chosen to keep selling these. Shame. Shame.

    • @fritzstauffacher6931
      @fritzstauffacher6931 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long ago? Maybe bad firmware at the time? I know when they first got it there was some important updates

    • @chris_santucci
      @chris_santucci 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm on my 2nd EB3A in a few months and still having issues. I suspect Bluetti packed too much capacity in that small case without adequate cooling. And my 2 year old SP200 panel suddenly stopped working. Done with Bluetti.

  • @neilmunro7961
    @neilmunro7961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful, Thank you. (Still can't make my mind up)

  • @dinhscot
    @dinhscot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bluetti EB3A all the way

  • @ChristopherSchiffermiller
    @ChristopherSchiffermiller ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @RC Review and anyone who knows. Does this Eco Flow River 2 have a 12 volt dc cigarette plug in? I see the round area on the front and thought it looked more like a light then a port. I need to know because I want to be able to buy jumper cables with the cigarette light port to plug into the unit and charge my gas van battery up if needed for emergencies. Its on sale right now for $209 and was going to order it. Thanks for any info and advice, Chris

    • @weston3303
      @weston3303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, regulated 12.8v

  • @chevelondfox5685
    @chevelondfox5685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank's nice vid. Keep it up!

  • @Riko-rd6ev
    @Riko-rd6ev ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which of the two stations is louder? I think this is an important question for many. Personally, I find the River 2 to be too loud for quiet work on the PC from an input or output of over 90 watts.

    • @DoritosResidue
      @DoritosResidue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have both if these. The ecoflow seems like it runs the fan more than it should compared to the bluetti. Both are very good products.

    • @Riko-rd6ev
      @Riko-rd6ev ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoritosResidueMany thanks for your response.

    • @DanielSLumsden
      @DanielSLumsden ปีที่แล้ว

      Bluetti is louder

  • @justgelikoi3542
    @justgelikoi3542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So here in NZ, ecoflow hardly ever goes on Sale and at the moment, there’s Bluetti that’s priced at $550 while ecoflow is at $749.

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OMG, under $200 here now. Your island is cursed when it comes to pricing.

    • @justgelikoi3542
      @justgelikoi3542 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IKR? I have to import stuff a few times because even with shipping fee I’m still better off.😅

  • @matthewwhitby5368
    @matthewwhitby5368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Audio is fine for me

  • @wt9653
    @wt9653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You didn't test the UPS feature.
    Ecoflow doesn't have UPS. It has something called EPS. Same as its not UPS.

  • @EverGone03
    @EverGone03 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dang for eco flow AC usage. it takes 315 watts to charge the unit. and can only output a 197watts. for a total efficiency of 62%

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True analysis right there of round trip usage

  • @stevenrobertson7069
    @stevenrobertson7069 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bluetti is a better build system....then ecoflow

  • @wonder_mike
    @wonder_mike 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bluetti has the advantage over ecoflow

  • @ShadeCandle
    @ShadeCandle ปีที่แล้ว

    Could anyone give me an idea how long I'd be able to run a laptop off either of these, doing streaming? I'm hoping to be able to do at least a few hours to a single charge.

    • @viperGg
      @viperGg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mention your charger charger power input for that.

    • @ShadeCandle
      @ShadeCandle ปีที่แล้ว

      It's 45w, not sure if that's the relevant info.

    • @viperGg
      @viperGg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      5 hours, its very easy to calculate,
      watts used by your device divide by wHR of the power source,

    • @ShadeCandle
      @ShadeCandle ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hassam Sajid Thought that was probably the case.thanks for clarifying.

    • @viperGg
      @viperGg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShadeCandle welcome man, i came to know about this from a youtube video too, i was looking to charge my electric bike and was looking for answer like you.

  • @DanielSLumsden
    @DanielSLumsden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many years until the battery completely dies??

    • @spiroszaharakis2648
      @spiroszaharakis2648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3500+ charge cycles to 80% capacity. Many more after that at a lower capacity. In practice, the units themselves will fail before the battery dies.

    • @DanielSLumsden
      @DanielSLumsden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spiroszaharakis2648 thank you 😊

  • @gsp49
    @gsp49 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Bluetti did not last but 8 months.

  • @martyh4777
    @martyh4777 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An interesting spec. difference to consider is the rated capacity in Ah (Amp Hour) between the Bluetti (12 Ah) and the EcoFlow (20 Ah). So, the Wh capacity number is a bit misleading and the Bluetti EB3A (268Wh) has a somewhat lower capacity (per the Ah rating) than the EcoFLow River 2 (256Wh). I think the Ah rating provides a more truthful representation of capacity.
    Also, I tested the EcoFlow DC output from 100% SOC to 0% SOC and got 85% output. So, I guess I can be happy about that.

    • @honumoorea873
      @honumoorea873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah is not representative of a capacity, you also need average voltage. Wh is the perfect unit for energy/capacity.

  • @jampam-jf8mt
    @jampam-jf8mt ปีที่แล้ว

    None of these offer good value for money..Go with a Ctechi 320wh. Customer service is excellent, better build, aluminium case rather than plastic. If you need expandable battery then the Vtoman 600x is one of the best. If you need an app and wireless charging then the Allpowers r600 is a better package than both the eb3a and river 2

    • @viperomen914
      @viperomen914 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ctechi cost the same and I believe only offers 1 year warranty while ecoflow offers 5,and not a huge pro but the ecoflow charges way faster then the ctechi

  • @extremercbashers9975
    @extremercbashers9975 ปีที่แล้ว

    No audio

    • @RCReviewChannel
      @RCReviewChannel  ปีที่แล้ว

      should be ok now. I released it a few minutes too soon.

  • @jerrywhite5251
    @jerrywhite5251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant understand how one of the most, if not the most, important comparisons was ignored. Battery life (max cycles it can be recharged before dropping below 80%). Some of the 10 head to head comparisons were irrelevant.

  • @fckthesystem497
    @fckthesystem497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks i made my choise i will go with river 2 :)

    • @oliberrr
      @oliberrr ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Bluetti seem “winning” a lot of categories.

  • @currentfaves65
    @currentfaves65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started using the Bluetti EB3A. Unfortunately, not a UPS candidate for small computers because it shut itself off. Even with ECO mode OFF, it will shut down the AC output after about 10 hours of less than 50 watts output.

    • @keyoflife24
      @keyoflife24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not a good idea to use them for that purpose.....Although it has pass-through you are taking it through charge cycles thus creating degradation in the battery....shortening the life span.
      It's better to use an ups for that task.

  • @smallscalemotoring
    @smallscalemotoring ปีที่แล้ว

    No sound for me. Anyone else?

  • @rockymtnman1288
    @rockymtnman1288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ecoflow looks like it has a deformity growth out the back for a handle. WEAK design Ecoflow. Blueetti is obviously way better.

    • @geographyinaction7814
      @geographyinaction7814 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Rubbish! The handle ensures you don't push the back of the unit against a wall or other obstruction, the cooling fan is on the back; the old handle prevented you from putting things on top.
      The Ecoflow charges faster, and has far better customer service, Bluetti is almost impossible to contact!

    • @DanielSLumsden
      @DanielSLumsden ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@geographyinaction7814whoever thought of that handle placement deserves a pay rise

  • @fckthesystem497
    @fckthesystem497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i can't understand this discrimination to europeans why we always pay more then americans? :D

    • @fckthesystem497
      @fckthesystem497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@odellian atleast i speak 4 languages and dont have problem with geography ;D

    • @DarkDrkto
      @DarkDrkto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a tax on "refugees" who have been living on state aid for decades.

  • @samthai818
    @samthai818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro, every criteria you claim was "all important ", so cut the craps! What is all-all important in terms of features? Other than that: great review!