thank you for the shoutout. thought I would just add, love the format that you've done for this, very nicely varied topics mixed in which makes it super engaging to listen to
Tournament Organizers NEED to get you two on a desk because yall are too embedded in the scene not to get a shout like that! Also, not a bad top5 rappers list KingT, and Quacke, those OG Logic mixtapes hit different! Keep up the good works boys
nice vid. maybe out on screen (or in time stamps) the players you’re talking about. as i’m multi tasking i sometimes forget or miss it and then im minutes without knowing 🤣
Snappi might be worth a shot, otherwise LNZ exists, as does fear. There's IGL options to try to strike the next kyxsan/siuhy if you wanna. Probably includes cutting TaZ as well though.
Nah not even. Every time I've seen an enemy on donk's screen it seems like he's always ready and never caught off guard, and he barely needs to move his mouse to hit 1st bullet hs.
Donk broke multiple records in a rookie year full of a team of chokers and subpar igling. Wins the MVP of the major and the mvp without question. KATO 1.7 2:56:25 saying that proofs you have no brain. If after donks year you say its close between donk and monesy you have no idea about counter strike. i am sorry. And saying that monesy solo carried in big games, is a joke. Rewatch all the big big games, monesy disappears in the biggest of games. Can he drop 30 in the major playoff elim game? we dont know, because he has not done it in 4 majors. Donk has done it twice in a single year at a major. IDK what you are seeing, but monesy has a fall of at the most important games. Also its not about monesy that much, i just have to use him for contrast, but about disrespecting donk. How can you claim its close, after what done has done. OR better what else has a player to do to not be disrespected like this. Donk number one WITHOUT DISCCUSION.
sorry dude but considering literally all your claims here are contradicted by actual statistics when you go looking proves your opinions is based on vibes and not grounded in some sort of evidence "m0NESY disappears in the biggest of games" is categorically untrue when his rating goes up by a literal +10% in arena games and his prestige event average is higher than his total big event average (1.31 vs 1.27) he was also topfrag on his team in 3/5 of their copenhagen playoff maps and was highest rated in a fourth, even if 26 isn't 30 I don't really care, he has much stronger teammates than donk does so naturally there's fewer frags to go around donk also, as I elaborated on in the episode, has the biggest drop off between big event series and elimination series out of anyone on the top 20 list (1.33 to 1.20) and also was comparatively crap against Vitality and G2 (1.07) when m0NESY maintained a 1.25 average rating against Vitality and Spirit, same for ZywOo vs Spirit and G2 add to that map count, the fact G2 played several more playoffs, Spirit skipped 3 quite important events and more or less disappeared in 3-4 others, and sorry dude... but it's close just saying "donk is #1 no question not even close" is handwaving away a bunch of points where m0NESY is outright better than donk so
@@quackecs Monesy in the best team he ever will have, won 2 blasts and a fluke dallas. He didn't carry anything and farming rating and map counts against top 20 teams because g2 cant close out games or goes 3:2 and never skippes stages doesn't impress. Donk and zywoo in the same position farm too, maybe even more, but they never could because they either didnt attend or skipped 3:0 stages, or went straight to semis, Also not only did he not carry he chocked in the most important games of the year, the Major. When i talk about the biggest of games, im not talking about him farming ewc and dallas or blasts. It about the Major. And Super elite events. Besides this years Kato, where they got 2:0 by mouz and last years where he got robbed, he has a pathetic super elite event score. Even with spirit choking cologne, donk is far and above monesy. Monesy could have had 2 Majors and 2 Major mvps(copenhagen is arguable, but if he was a hyper carry like claimed, could have solo won that game, it was 13:11, but he disappeared along side his team, but again he could have solo carried them). If he was a hyper carry big game player like claimed. But he isnt. He is a pre big game carry. Just short of when it really matters, he disappears. Again nice too see him farm blasts but do it at colgone, kato or the majors please. Also Donk drop off is easly explained, rookie, doenst know how to handle jetlag at dallas. One off. And i love how noone talks about Snap Tap anymore. 3 events donk faced snap tap, donk got out dueled on many occasions by freaking floppy and jt and elige. totally not software related skill increases on their part and donk being disadvantaged, because he also has damn near perfect movement. everything the same this, year donk still performs better at those 3 events if snap tap didn't exist. Which would carry over confidence into the rest of the year. Which was shattered because of stomps at cologne, ewc, because i argue snap tap. But thats neither here or there. Donk mind boggling records that he set, i dont want to list them all here, should make up for the missed events. Which equals them. From there on out, the major was the deciding factor. SO to claim that donk and monesy are close AFTER donk won major mvp breaking another record btw, simples major rating record, after breaking Nikos LAN record(harder teams, more maps), is in fact BRAIN ROT. Just imagine a world. because your buddy says its close. So its a toss up. Monesy could win it and it was CLOSE right? Its arguable in his mind that monesy could win player of the year. The wording is what pisses me off. ITS CLOSE, money wins it and it was close, there is no reason to be mad, because it was close. Look back at this year and ask yourself if donk didnt win player of the year but monesy did, after failing the major like he did. i am not saying that your buddy does, because he says its CLOSE, after monesy choked the major and donk won major mvp. What kinda standart does it set. "Farm maps and blasts and top20 bums get high rating, never win a stier event, YOU THE GOAT." Yeah fuck that. monesy could have this kinda year for now and ever and ever for the rest of his career and you tell me he is the goat? Seriously? You would be ok with that? in your world donk loses in the finals because his team chokes and he wont get player of the year lmao.
@@quackecs tldr, my goat is not a map count farmer vs tier 2, carried to 2 times blast winner and one fluke dallas winner, snap tap abusing team, awp baiter stat padder, highlight flick cvck. But an entry , Kato winner, major mvp and major winner, lan rating record breaker, major mvp rating breaker, kill record breaker, KPR record breaking, ADR record breaking chad Donk has the exact same year for the rest of his career, hes the goat. Monesy has the exact same year for the rest of his career hes a fraud.
thank you for the shoutout. thought I would just add, love the format that you've done for this, very nicely varied topics mixed in which makes it super engaging to listen to
Cheers, best of luck in the coming year!
Thanks a lot! Looking forward to seeing your 2025 ❤
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It's so funny how you can just see the depression in KingTs expression with every new placement from Quacke lol.
I can control certain things but my face is rarely one of them
KingT's defense speech for Torzsi has single-handedly extended my sub. 🤩
Always ready to back up my prospects when they get snubbed
Thank you KingT & Quacke. You guys did a great job for 2024, GL with 2025. One of my fav cs podcasts
Thanks for listening!
Thanks for all the content this year guys, looking forward to see what unfolds in 2024, especially after this crazy rostermania.
no doubt 2025 will be one of the most important years in CS history, no matter if it goes well or poorly
"I have a song that reminds me of your dad..." the silence 😂
I may tolerate the Snax slander or the NaVi fluke, but I shall not stand any slight on device being the physical manifestation of gigachad. 😂
Tournament Organizers NEED to get you two on a desk because yall are too embedded in the scene not to get a shout like that! Also, not a bad top5 rappers list KingT, and Quacke, those OG Logic mixtapes hit different! Keep up the good works boys
nice vid. maybe out on screen (or in time stamps) the players you’re talking about. as i’m multi tasking i sometimes forget or miss it and then im minutes without knowing 🤣
Haha, that's a level of production we can't really sustain every week for this show
did you catch me changing the battery in my headset during the mustache question
I thought all Swedes had snus dispensing headsets... very smooth!
Biggest What if of 2024: s1mple came back to awping for NaVi full time instead of signing a loan with Falcons.
Spirit won becasue of Donk. Navi won becasue of teamplay. NAVI team of the year.
Quite one-dimensional since the conclusion is NAVI won mostly crap events aside from Copenhagen
Assuming G2 sign HeavyGod. Would you sign an IGL or a huNter- replacement ? (considering they probably don't want to give up their valve ranking)
Snappi might be worth a shot, otherwise LNZ exists, as does fear. There's IGL options to try to strike the next kyxsan/siuhy if you wanna. Probably includes cutting TaZ as well though.
Purely mechanically speaking, from a beauty of gameplay standpoint (100% aesthetically) , TwistZz and Xantares both have prettier gameplay than donk.
Honestly not an invalid opinion, I give it to donk tho
Maybe, but that just means the best micro isn't as pretty, cuz donk has by far the best micro
Nah not even. Every time I've seen an enemy on donk's screen it seems like he's always ready and never caught off guard, and he barely needs to move his mouse to hit 1st bullet hs.
I actually vibe with this take. donk is more optimal, but beauty isn't optimised
In that case it's NiKo then. Cleanest, smoothest, sexiest kills.
Quackes rap opinions might be worse than his CS opinions 😂
I agree
Donk broke multiple records in a rookie year full of a team of chokers and subpar igling.
Wins the MVP of the major and the mvp without question. KATO 1.7
2:56:25 saying that proofs you have no brain.
If after donks year you say its close between donk and monesy you have no idea about counter strike. i am sorry. And saying that monesy solo carried in big games, is a joke. Rewatch all the big big games, monesy disappears in the biggest of games. Can he drop 30 in the major playoff elim game?
we dont know, because he has not done it in 4 majors. Donk has done it twice in a single year at a major.
IDK what you are seeing, but monesy has a fall of at the most important games.
Also its not about monesy that much, i just have to use him for contrast, but about disrespecting donk.
How can you claim its close, after what done has done. OR better what else has a player to do to not be disrespected like this.
Donk number one WITHOUT DISCCUSION.
sorry dude but considering literally all your claims here are contradicted by actual statistics when you go looking proves your opinions is based on vibes and not grounded in some sort of evidence
"m0NESY disappears in the biggest of games" is categorically untrue when his rating goes up by a literal +10% in arena games and his prestige event average is higher than his total big event average (1.31 vs 1.27)
he was also topfrag on his team in 3/5 of their copenhagen playoff maps and was highest rated in a fourth, even if 26 isn't 30 I don't really care, he has much stronger teammates than donk does so naturally there's fewer frags to go around
donk also, as I elaborated on in the episode, has the biggest drop off between big event series and elimination series out of anyone on the top 20 list (1.33 to 1.20) and also was comparatively crap against Vitality and G2 (1.07) when m0NESY maintained a 1.25 average rating against Vitality and Spirit, same for ZywOo vs Spirit and G2
add to that map count, the fact G2 played several more playoffs, Spirit skipped 3 quite important events and more or less disappeared in 3-4 others, and sorry dude... but it's close
just saying "donk is #1 no question not even close" is handwaving away a bunch of points where m0NESY is outright better than donk so
oh also thanks for your service comrade 1000 rubles has been sent to your bank account
@@quackecs Monesy in the best team he ever will have, won 2 blasts and a fluke dallas.
He didn't carry anything and farming rating and map counts against top 20 teams because g2 cant close out games or goes 3:2 and never skippes stages doesn't impress. Donk and zywoo in the same position farm too, maybe even more, but they never could because they either didnt attend or skipped 3:0 stages, or went straight to semis,
Also not only did he not carry he chocked in the most important games of the year, the Major.
When i talk about the biggest of games, im not talking about him farming ewc and dallas or blasts.
It about the Major. And Super elite events.
Besides this years Kato, where they got 2:0 by mouz and last years where he got robbed, he has a pathetic super elite event score. Even with spirit choking cologne, donk is far and above monesy.
Monesy could have had 2 Majors and 2 Major mvps(copenhagen is arguable, but if he was a hyper carry like claimed, could have solo won that game, it was 13:11, but he disappeared along side his team, but again he could have solo carried them).
If he was a hyper carry big game player like claimed. But he isnt. He is a pre big game carry. Just short of when it really matters, he disappears.
Again nice too see him farm blasts but do it at colgone, kato or the majors please.
Also Donk drop off is easly explained, rookie, doenst know how to handle jetlag at dallas. One off.
And i love how noone talks about Snap Tap anymore.
3 events donk faced snap tap, donk got out dueled on many occasions by freaking floppy and jt and elige.
totally not software related skill increases on their part and donk being disadvantaged, because he also has damn near perfect movement.
everything the same this, year donk still performs better at those 3 events if snap tap didn't exist. Which would carry over confidence into the rest of the year. Which was shattered because of stomps at cologne, ewc, because i argue snap tap.
But thats neither here or there.
Donk mind boggling records that he set,
i dont want to list them all here,
should make up for the missed events. Which equals them.
From there on out, the major was the deciding factor.
SO to claim that donk and monesy are close AFTER donk won major mvp breaking another record btw, simples major rating record, after breaking Nikos LAN record(harder teams, more maps), is in fact BRAIN ROT.
Just imagine a world. because your buddy says its close.
So its a toss up. Monesy could win it and it was CLOSE right? Its arguable in his mind that monesy could win player of the year.
The wording is what pisses me off. ITS CLOSE, money wins it and it was close, there is no reason to be mad, because it was close.
Look back at this year and ask yourself if donk didnt win player of the year but monesy did, after failing the major like he did. i am not saying that your buddy does, because he says its CLOSE, after monesy choked the major and donk won major mvp. What kinda standart does it set.
"Farm maps and blasts and top20 bums get high rating, never win a stier event, YOU THE GOAT." Yeah fuck that. monesy could have this kinda year for now and ever and ever for the rest of his career and you tell me he is the goat? Seriously? You would be ok with that?
in your world donk loses in the finals because his team chokes and he wont get player of the year lmao.
@@marrchy2682 i aint readin allat, happy for u tho or sorry that happened
@@quackecs tldr, my goat is not a map count farmer vs tier 2, carried to 2 times blast winner and one fluke dallas winner, snap tap abusing team, awp baiter stat padder, highlight flick cvck.
But an entry , Kato winner, major mvp and major winner, lan rating record breaker, major mvp rating breaker, kill record breaker, KPR record breaking, ADR record breaking chad
Donk has the exact same year for the rest of his career, hes the goat.
Monesy has the exact same year for the rest of his career hes a fraud.
Brother you are crashing out on HLTV.
You good? How much?
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