WTF Happened to Lyn in Project M?! Why She Was Cut

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  • @RisingJericho
    @RisingJericho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Lyn is so close to being completed, it'd be a complete waste to NOT finish her

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      at least P+ team should have one more special exception for Lyn like they did for Knux

    • @makogp747
      @makogp747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Matanumi unfortunately, most competitors dont wanna have a new character because of balance or so Ive heard so yeah.
      Plus, her animations are janky and unpolished, even in the pmex remix or cobalt versions. Compared to Knuckles, that is. Unfortunately there are no more animators in the p+dt so no one is working on her

    • @RisingJericho
      @RisingJericho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@makogp747 That doesn't seem to be stopping the Melee community from making Wolf from scratch : /

    • @makogp747
      @makogp747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RisingJericho well, they can make wolf all they want. Lyn needs animators lol

    • @makogp747
      @makogp747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      like, im not going against them just saying they make wolf, this is lyn. they can finish wolf and all. this is lyn, very different
      plus, it isnt whats used in major tournaments, so...

  • @cstick2664
    @cstick2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I know the P+ team is a lot smaller than the PMDT so it’s very unlikely we’ll ever see her. But man I’d love to see her added she looks so fun

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Honestly it would be cool to see Lyn be finished. She does have hope, but I'm just grateful we got Knuckles to begin with.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would be cool, but I'm happy we got knuckles alone. That was pretty cool and I'm satisfied with that.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want Isaac and Sami as well, the whole Project M Newcomer Quartet should not be given up on.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@squallleonhart9387 I plan to probably do videos on those characters aswell.

  • @EnergyBurst2
    @EnergyBurst2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I still remember back when PM's development was ended and later when I heard about how Lyn and Knuckles were in the works beforehand I was very saddened that we'd never get the chance to have them finished in a version of PM and while it's nice to hear they went back and finished Knuckles, it's a bit sad as well to think that Lyn was dropped entirely as a plan to be finished, like I understand the choice for going for Knuckles over her, but I like both characters quite a lot so seeing one left behind does feel kinda bittersweet.

  • @XC11301991
    @XC11301991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lol FE fanbase forgot the character? What? She keeps coming back in some way and is still a fan favorite. In Heroes she got a lot of rekins in the early year of that mobile game and she's getting a figure this year.

  • @squallleonhart9387
    @squallleonhart9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lyn deserved to be playable in an actual Smash game before the Awakening Trio, Corrin and Byleth, she has her fans and is a Protagonist of the first game to get localized.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like Fire Emblem Fates, but even I agree that Lyn is way better than Corrin LMAO

    • @RisingJericho
      @RisingJericho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something something the Japanese demographic is more important for character inclusions than anything else overseas (from what I understand)

    • @Nighttale233
      @Nighttale233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nintendo wants to just shill you with protagonists of newer games unfortunatrly.

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "in my opinion anyway"

    • @markvo250
      @markvo250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah but roy's their boy

  • @yungmuney5903
    @yungmuney5903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1:42 Damn Lyn looks and sounds pretty fucking mature for a 15 year old.

    • @kazekamiha
      @kazekamiha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a bit of a crush on her when FE7 hit the west.

    • @115zombies935
      @115zombies935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤨

    • @BananaSlayer_
      @BananaSlayer_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      emoneySwag

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In some versions of the game, she’s three years older, guessing that gave mature voice going by the older age.

  • @sunlala1362
    @sunlala1362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lyn is a sick character design. I'd imagine she'd play like shiek but with a sword and some kinda clone feint attack. In the og game she gets like no strength but a ton of speed so she should be a fast combo character.

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I seriously love this Sacean Babe, she’s in the same boat as Waluigi, Shadow and Isaac, always being snubbed to Assist Trophy status but hopefully someday that will change. Lyn is indeed very important being the protagonist of the first game to be localized. I main her in PM Remix.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you liked the video, and yeah I plan to cover Isaac and Sami in the future!

    • @KonaKonaKaabisteru
      @KonaKonaKaabisteru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun coincidence to think that all above can be played in PM through mods like PMEx Remix or even Project M Community Edition...

  • @locknessmonster3827
    @locknessmonster3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No! Lyn should be put in P+. She really could use the love and I would love to see the roster of P+ expand further. I would love to see more original characters in these official mods.

  • @surfingraichu7594
    @surfingraichu7594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lyn would be such a cool addition! just the idea of seeing such an amazing mod like P+ be taken even further with the same polish it already has would be insane! Ofc, that’s a lot easier said than done :/

  • @yabusamehoulen7636
    @yabusamehoulen7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some people might need to be prodded into action. Not me.
    -Lyndis

  • @makogp747
    @makogp747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    one reason why lyn will never be finished:
    her animations lack polish. If youre a 3d animator who can animate in blender, and is willing to do lyn, check out the brawl modding discord and maybe the project plus or pmex remix discord! Im sure people would be willing for animators to help polish lyn with the same love they gave knuckles.
    mewtwo and roy too. their models are ripped straight from melee and mewtwo's entrance is literally his side taunt so yeah creatives are a cool thing to have.

    • @1mariofan2.05
      @1mariofan2.05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      roy's model actually wasn't ripped straight from melee

    • @makogp747
      @makogp747 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1mariofan2.05 it is quite similar, no? same with mewtwos lol
      i thought it was because of how similat they are. point still stands, they arent as polished as knux's model and animations

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never say never

  • @Mohammed1000real
    @Mohammed1000real 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's pray that she'll make it to Project +

  • @Mr.madmight266
    @Mr.madmight266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well,at least we have the Project Remix version to compensate. But does that mean Shadow is not on Project+?

  • @talkingbenson5487
    @talkingbenson5487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice video, man. I appreciate you giving PM/P+ a regular dose of love
    also, i did not know that lyn had these slight variants in her attacks. That's really nice.
    The only thing that I hated about lyn was that she would always steathe her sword after
    every attack/move... god damn, did this steathing sound annoy me after a while...

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I believe that steathe sword thing was straight out of Mugen. They could've made it quieter or something tho lol

  • @LHSMeleeClub
    @LHSMeleeClub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still breaks my heart to this day

  • @angrygeri7026
    @angrygeri7026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your vids are so interesting!
    Also I'm just realising Rushdown Revolt's Zhurong took some inspiration from her moveset!

  • @araknair9605
    @araknair9605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lyn needs to be in, maybe in whatever comes out after P+

  • @novanebula8004
    @novanebula8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was hype as hell when the cancelled Project M characters got leaked back in 2016

  • @LHSMeleeClub
    @LHSMeleeClub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they add her eventually

  • @madokalover
    @madokalover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she looks so fun to play ;-; i would've loved to get a lyn like this instead of the new fire emblem characters in smash 4! it's crazy that they made a whole new model for her instead of using the assist trophy model for brawl too, it looks so good!

  • @GameConnoisseur69
    @GameConnoisseur69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She kinda reminds me of Pyra/Mythra if they got smushed into one char instead of being a mode switch char if that makes sense

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean Pneuma? While haven’t played any Xenoblade games, seen enough videos to know who you’re talking about.

  • @vinnylo9418
    @vinnylo9418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't say she's important in her game, but she is very popular within Japan and outside of Japan. Anyways, great analysis. Good work man.

  • @liquidladdy
    @liquidladdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Song at 1:32?

  • @kirby2567
    @kirby2567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another year closer to the grave
    Another year with no lyn shaking the P+ meta just a bit

  • @danb1809
    @danb1809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The MUGEN Lyn looks like its inspired by Johnny from Guilty Gear

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can MUGEN be played on, how many versions of that game is there, and which MUGEN game is Lyn in?

  • @HWHAProb
    @HWHAProb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lyn is my favorite FE character. such a bummer she never made it in

  • @tripmisterman
    @tripmisterman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    o0o0ooo a new down-b. I kinda hated some of her original moves and some iterations of her as it became more and more less canon, it became more -anime sword girl who plays like falcon.
    I like the down-b. I like the idea of making of making everything into a rekka as if you have enough agility in FE you get multiple attacks per interaction.
    I just wish her up-b wasn't just large dolphin slash, mainly because its ass on stages with low blast zones and its a waste of what could be a cool canon attack.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still don't know why she used electricity in some of her attacks in the leaked builds. I wish I could've met the OG Lyn dev and ask him questions about that character. I do like the idea a lot though, and Lyn is really fun from the average standard FE sword character.

  • @RisingJericho
    @RisingJericho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tfw we just missed Top Legs

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smash Fans would have a Hayday with Lyn since she shows the
      *L E G G*

  • @John_James
    @John_James 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark pit arrows are broken

  • @slifertheskyngga
    @slifertheskyngga ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    😔

  • @eisendrag
    @eisendrag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    alright who disliked the video

  • @trixssbm
    @trixssbm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lyra I heard have a Nintendo switch and smash ultimate so I will do a first to three with you my discord is trix#8925