BROKEN RUDDER: How Do We Get Home?!?!?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
  • This video follows the Farrier-designed F-82R trimaran Unleaded through Swiftsure 2023 when we lost our rudder and sailed 30 miles to safety with an improvised emergency rudder before a gale arrived.
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  • @csquaredvisionsfpv8964
    @csquaredvisionsfpv8964 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a brilliant idea! I'm drilling my paddle as a backup for everglades and blackbeard challenge asap!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We’re so thankful it worked as well as it did - glad it’s a helpful idea for you!

  • @steventhorn941
    @steventhorn941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job! I have only been sailing for a few years, 6.6k NM. I have far more hours arm chairing. I have often wondered why I haven't seen or heard of using a canoe paddle/oar for emergency steering. It seems obvious and simple enough to adapt or even pre figure as you did. As/from from my rafting and paddling experience. experience. You sailing is exciting... be well.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! I think whether the paddle will work or not partly depends on the inherent directional stability of the hulls given the relatively small blade size. The F-82R is quite directionally stable but it might not work with say a larger monohull. Either way the key is to prepare ahead of time!

  • @JheregJAB
    @JheregJAB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering its a good idea to have a couple paddles in a small Tri with an outboard anyway, this seems like a pretty smart modification to make. Always good to have options when things go wrong!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the paddle makes a great multi-purpose tool!!!

  • @Redmanuka
    @Redmanuka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool sailing footage...

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks - glad you liked it! Definitely a memorable day!

  • @frodosadventures8757
    @frodosadventures8757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A trimaran broke its rudder off Mooloolaba, Queensland Australia recently and had to be towed in by the marine rescue. They should have watched this video!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it’s so much better to be self-sufficient if possible!!!

  • @davidisaac4222
    @davidisaac4222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice MacGyver move and great sailing!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - that was a great show!!!

    • @davidisaac4222
      @davidisaac4222 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SailingTipsCa if you guys ever need an extra hand on the tri- let me know! I sail on Ultraman but prepping for R2AK next year and my only cat experience is with my foiling A-class and beach cats.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidisaac4222 Sure things! A-class and beach cats are a great way to learn to sail multis - you can develop an excellent feel for things when they get spicy! Drop me a line at the email address in the about section of the channel so I’ll have your contact info.

  • @captguitarj
    @captguitarj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a couple of canoe paddles just sitting in my garage, they'll now be part of the voyage. Had you not had a back up paddle it would seem the outboard engine with idle power (plus a little more for rougher conditions) could act as a rudder?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We’ve tried the outboard for emergency steering in the past and 1) if there’s any sea state more than 1-2 feet / 0.5m it frequently comes out of the water and 2) even when it’s in the water in such conditions there isn’t sufficient lateral resistance for accurate steering. In other words, the outboard is really only useful in relatively calm seas.

  • @crowfriends9421
    @crowfriends9421 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We ran over a submerged log . 46’ custom monohull . We removed the door to the head . Drilled holes in the door and laced /lashed it to our spinnaker pole. Looking much like a giant canoe paddle. Lashed to the push pit at a long dragging angle . We made it home. Under power not sail. 🍻 Cheers to making it home

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s some great ingenuity! It’s important to use the resources you have on hand and keep going - glad you made it home!!!

  • @BryanGlover-py1ng
    @BryanGlover-py1ng ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First one 2 comment sailors need to be ingenuitive and resourceful

  • @glenn5ft19
    @glenn5ft19 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s amazing that the rudder broke but the canoe paddle hung in there for the rest of the race. Was the rudder a wood or foam core? Do you know why it failed. Im interested in the design for your new rudder.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This particular rudder had a balsa core machined by CCI./ Phil’s Foils and finished by the original owner/builder. It failed because the head delaminated, possibly due to moisture damage in the core, possibly because the original owner/builder didn’t follow the lamination schedule. This allowed the carbon skins on either side of the rudder to shear up and down in opposite directions in the cassette, eventually breaking them. We really liked the performance and shape so We’re working with CCI / Phil’s Foils to get a new one with the same shape, but an updated core.
      The blade on the canoe paddle is much smaller, so much less steering purchase, which is what contributed to it lasting. It wasn’t nearly as good for steering though, and was much more of an “go in this approximate direction” device, while the waves still pushed us around quite a bit. With the full (before it broke) rudder the steering was very precise, like a slot car!

  • @markthomasson5077
    @markthomasson5077 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great footage…a wild ride.
    You even managed a very respectable speed with just the jib and paddle.
    Will you carry a spare / emergency blade in future

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it was pretty wild! We don’t plan to carry an additional “proper” rudder blade in the future, other than the paddle, which we typically have aboard and is a multi-purpose device e.g. if the engine dies.

  • @Kirmo13
    @Kirmo13 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow what a great story

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - glad you liked it and glad it has a happy ending!!!

  • @OwnerPlt
    @OwnerPlt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard big waves bad for the catamarans.. Be careful buddy!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you need to be very mindful of the sea state to remain right-side-up!

  • @Gonesailn
    @Gonesailn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed you video. Haven't taken my tri out in about a month, but got my fix watching your video. How fast did you go? Amazing you didn't get a strike on your centerboard.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked the video! I was trying to capture a sense of what it was like out there with the natural sound, limited voiceovers etc.
      Our GPS track shows we hit ~12 knots upwind and ~17 knots downwind and there may have been bursts above that.
      The rudder failed because the head delaminated, possibly due to moisture damage in the core, possibly because the original owner/builder didn’t precisely follow the lamination schedule, or a combination of the two. Whatever the underlying cause this allowed the carbon skins on either side of the rudder to shear up and down in opposite directions in the cassette, eventually breaking them. So we didn’t hit something!

  • @hannujarvela9209
    @hannujarvela9209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you have the daggerboard fully down downwind? How was the boat trimmed, heading up or bearing down? sometimes reefing gives you awful balance if you still have the full jib and have to sail it half empty. When it goes totally empty the balance shifts very rapidly to heading up and you have to correct that hard with rudder. Glad you made it!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This boat is very mainsail-driven and has a pretty small jib, about 1/3 the size of the full main, and even double-reefed the head of the main is still above the head of the jib and the jib is still only about 1/2 the size of the main. It performs very well in higher winds, but is a bit underpowered in light air with the small jib.
      We typically sail with the daggerboard fully down as the apparent wind is typically forward of the beam, even when sailing downwind. Andrew (who was steering) said everything seemed pretty well balanced.
      We did try pulling the daggerboard up with the canoe paddle rudder to see if it would help, as the apparent wind was aft of the beam because we were sailing slower, but it became harder to steer so we lowered it again.

  • @robertthomas2942
    @robertthomas2942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No need for a shower if you push a Corsair hard..... Nice job!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL - need to bring soap next time!

  • @adrianbaker9804
    @adrianbaker9804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the plan for the replacement, I've been building a rudder blade or my tri it's a lot of work but fun

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This particular rudder had a balsa core machined by CCI./ Phil’s Foils and finished by the original owner/builder. It failed because the head delaminated, possibly due to moisture damage in the core, possibly because the original owner/builder didn’t follow the lamination schedule. This allowed the carbon skins on either side of the rudder to shear up and down in opposite directions in the cassette, eventually breaking them. We really liked the performance and shape so we’re working with CCI / Phil’s Foils to get a new one with the same shape, but an updated core. We thought of building ourselves but were concerned about the time plus not getting as good of a shape.

    • @adrianbaker9804
      @adrianbaker9804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SailingTipsCa sounds like a good plan thanks for the info very interesting

  • @SailingAndInvesting
    @SailingAndInvesting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I saw only sky near the beginning of the video, I got nervous.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes thankfully the boat was still right-side-up!!!

  • @billhanna8838
    @billhanna8838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could the motor powered up be used ?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good question! The motor is really only useful in relatively flat water, because in any kind of sea state it comes out of the water between waves and revs to the moon, which isn’t good for it!

  • @dalebechaz1566
    @dalebechaz1566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What speed where you achieving when rudder broke

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The speed indicator in water stops working reliably at higher speeds but the GPS was showing about 17 knots!!!

    • @RobertdeVries-trimaran-sailing
      @RobertdeVries-trimaran-sailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice ‘instructional’ video!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobertdeVries-trimaran-sailing Certainly feels like we got ‘schooled’!!!