5 Most Annoying Yu-Gi-Oh Terms People Say!
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People that call you a noob when you have 10 years of experience or because you don't play lazy meta decks (Yes, it's personal.)
I hear ya. I've been playing for a long time, too. People just like to throw words around. It's annoying.
***** Very. Enjoyed the video by the way, very relatable, good job.
Hylian Warrior ...cringe
So how is a meta deck lazy ? Lol
You can be a noob with 10 years of experience noobs are more used to say you’re bad rather than it’s original meaning newbie as in new player but I’m not condoning badmouthing people for losing or not playing meta or vice versa. :)
I made a very Skillful deck. It's got Skill Drain, Skill Prisoner, and Breakthrough Skill. There's so much Skill in there!
OOHHHHH XD
Ah I see what you did there >.>
+Boltizar49 Holy crap, nice joke but that is what I would call an effect rapist deck
I bet Its very skillful
+Boltizar49 Skill archtype
"Troll deck", whenever you're playing something that isn't in the current meta, and not commonly seen, people call it a troll deck.
+Sanger Zonvolt I like Ojamas.
+BoomBug *Love
yeah I see what you mean unless u play exodia
+Sanger Zonvolt I got accused of running a troll deck at my towns local game store back in September back for playing Noble Knights in a tourney.
One of my best friends started laughing his ass off because this one guy I was facing got pissed off when I merlin'd during the battle phase to swing for game, one guy came over and was like "can he do that?" and this guy actually yelled: "I DON'T KNOW NOBODY RUNS THIS GARBAGE" and I'm just sitting there like "oh.... but... I like Noble Knights..."
I ended up disqualified from that match for an illegal move even though I'm 93% positive that I was able to do that, I just didn't wanna make a fuss since the dude looked ready to smash me over the head with the table so I just went with it.
Jack Ream That's just sad. I really do use a sorta trolly deck. Ojama.
Paul, you're broken. I'm glad you're limited to 1.
+Tom Thorsett I'll be back to 3 someday!
lol xD
Starts at 2:15
AbigBlackcat Some people care what he has to say.
I commented that because he literally says "Let's get started."
But I always wear my helmet when I play my degenerative, broken, unhealthy Bujins skillfully.
The ultimate nightmare (not yubel).
You cant imagine how little sense that statement makes.
*****
And I seem to need to clarify something too.
1.)
That comment was obviously a joke and youd get that if you would have seen the video.
Youre making yourself look really damn stupid, taking an obvious joke for real XD
I never played bujin nor do I plan to.
2.)
Everyone and their mother oooobviously play HEROs and thats why GY oriented Decks like Nekroz, Shaddolls and BA oooobviously arnt even played.
Oh no, wait.
Youre wrong and I was being sarcastic.
Got that?
*****
Currently Shaddolls.
Why?
Smashed one with Shaddolls today.
Cant get over an established field and a Veiler.
They cant get over a field of Nekroz of Unicore and Clausolas.
Kozmo are just like "lol k die".
BA just kill either the Mask Change target or go -1 once to kill Law.
Satella play backrow out the ass.
From my perspective, HEROs are only good if they open perfectly with Law and the correct backrow.
Otherwise they get destroyed.
*****
Everything spams R4 except BA.
I can Veiler the Goblindbergh, Shadow Mist, Norden whatever so that they never get into the game.
Gung and happy birthday, you drew your one limited Raigeki because HEROs dont play Dark Hole.
HEROs objectively suck based on their competitive record.
If you think you have some magical formula to play HEROs, go ahead and win an invite then nats and then worlds.
Wont happen.
Have fun with your HEROs scrubbing out against anyone that knows how to play against such a linear Deck.
Back in my day, we didn't call them "Helmet Decks" we called them "Training wheels decks"
EternalBlueSyaoran THATS LITERALLY WHAT THEY ARE
E-hero's :P
I personally hate the term "tier 0" when applied to just any deck that happens to be topping a lot. Honestly I feel "tier 0" only somewhat deserves application to formats when you pretty much had to play a certain deck (ie: Tele-DAD or Prime Dragon Ruler) or you wouldn't be able to win, because everything else far outpaced it.
hi deviant
I typically find that people will find any good deck that is relatively underground "tier 0".
I've heard people call D/D and Performapal "tier 0", and while both decks are very good, "tier 0" implies nothing else but itself can beat it, which is complete bull
+DynamoDuskull no tier 0 is 80-90% of tops
jorge jimenez I've heard _many_ different definitions on the term, so it varies on who you talk to, I guess.
The "official" tier list is based on results. Therefore there is always a tier 0 deck. That deck is the deck that has more results than all other decks. It's only by comparison. It's like, burning abyss this format. Unquestionably the best deck. So it's this formats tier 0.
when people say dank hole dank destroyer dank magician it's the most aggravating thing
Masked hero dank law
Dank holeeee
Huskies HD I had a friend who said "I summon my prostitution" whenever he played a dark magician girl
I hate when people say all you do is troll with your deck whenever someone is losing.
When someone calls you out for "surrendering". Seriously, that is an option FOR ALL PLAYERS who just get stuck.
ShadowRaichu nope you’re just pussying out
Nah I’m fine with surrendering you still get the win and it’s more satisfying to build a board that makes the opponent quit the match it’s not pussying out it’s being a good loser if you look through it. Right?
@@maybe752most of the time surrendering is not "being a good looser", you're just likely frustrated (especially if you do it regularly, where it's likely you're not being a happy guy surrendering) and your opponent recognizes that so you just spread negative energy and remove the fun of the finish. It's just interrupting the happening game, going away and letting the win to your opponent with it .
Cancer or Cancerous is the term thats annoying me the most recently..
+Jett Connor It's a term that is synonymous with tier 0 in my eyes, only to be used on the most meta-defining and over-powered decks. In more simple terms it is when a top tier deck's biggest competition was itself and not the other decks of that format. In this sense i could call a deck "cancer" because it multiplies throughout that format like a cancer.
To konami's credit these are the exception rather than the rule and I can't remember a format since E.dragons where there hasn't been at least 3 decks competing for the top seed.
+JEL625 umm i know what it means..im just saying its said soo often, its annoying to hear and see it..
Jett Connor lmao blue eyes is cancer
Jett Connor 100% agree. I hate the word cancer being missused. It is a horrid disease that kills loads of people and not an insult that can just be thrown around.
+Mash I lost family to cancer. It's also just a word so who the fuck cares? No one should.
you just described 99% of the yugioh community lmao
Holy shit this guy's eyes feel like they are piercing my soul
+Triangkle They are.
well good thing i have no soul
i think hes just high lol
Doctor Sambor lol
The Eye of Truth
Title topic starts at the 2 minute mark. You're welcome.
TheLastChary god bless you
The Skipperino Kripperino we need
Hey Paul, what's your thoughts on a dress code for big yugioh events like ycs?
Sounds like a nice idea for a video!
+Team APS yeah thought it would make a interesting discussion video, making big events more professional with a smart dress code?
+De4dite dude its just yugioh its not a job interview.
they rly need a dress code force ppl to idk . in the words of trell "wash ya ass"
Is chrystron a "helmet" deck? I think it requires a bit of skill but it is very easy to pull out monsters. It's my favorite archetype and I have a really good deck with it
Question. what do you guys think about the new red eyes support? and could you do a deck profile on it?
These are terms that will never change, they may turn into different words as time goes on but the meaning at it's core is always the same: "I'm the only good player in this game, even if I'm currently 0-23 on this deck thats only because everyone else sucks and plays 'easy' decks" or to sum up in 5 words: Justification to hide being bad
Are "Spellbook of Judgement" and "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" (pre-errata, JPN, so far) still broken?
Yes
judgement gives you MULTIPLE searches.. who cares about the special summon part
I have never been called scrub but the term to me is just insulting in a way that saying nothing can be innovating without being called scrub for using it and just telling people they suck and wont be good, ever. I think it is used just as a way to alienate and doesnt help make the community look any better.
TNobody 0214 I'll be honest, I do use the word 'scrub' quite a bit. I do try and limit it to close friends though. xD
ginro dino it's okay. I just don't like it and when people use it against me I will just show then up with a "scrub" play that wilvost them the game
"Top 5 saltiest ygo phrases."
Hey aps quick question? Do you have to play an archetype to succeed? I really dont want to just do what everyone else because whats the point in doing that?
getting back into yugioh and found my old binder how do i know whats worth money if its common such as instant fusion shot up in price and i found mine near mint
Babino look it up
everycard?
Revisiting this video, I think I'd like to point out that there's quite a bit of fun in constructing a deck around a degenerate strategy such as trying to draw through your deck. It's like building a little machine that's designed to have the highest chance of getting a high number of draws, increasing your chances of pulling of x. I know it's not fun to play against but they are really interesting to build.
Do you have a video on Duel links??
ok ik this is a random question but what do you think of starseraph evil swarms?
Evilswarm is already an inconsistent deck. Star seraphs (even though very strong cards in the game) make decks more inconsistent. It would probably cap off at a regional level . If you find a way to make it consistent, and play it at a higher level than then, then I would give you a thumbs up and a pat on the back :)
PugShotGames ok thanks i was thinking about it Starseraph with evilswarms sounds on paper great with mandragora thunderbird and kerykeion to give the additional normal summon. Thanks for the replying :)
Hey Paul, I was just wondering, and maybe you've answered it in another video's comment, but what camera do you use to shoot your videos?
+DiverseStyle Canon 70D with an array of lenses and some other gear.
The term "Broken" really pisses me off. Unless you played in the Yata Lock format and went against that or Magical Scientist (or Cyber Stein) FTK/OTK. You don't know what the term means. For a card to be "broken" it must break the entire game and always creates an (Sorry hate to say this) unhealthy game state. Where in the Yata Lock a person would have Sangan/Witch of the Black Forest on field they a person plays Chaos Emperor Dragon Envoy of the End getting rid of everything triggering either Sangan or Witch of the Black Forest searching for Yata Garasu then attacking forcing the opponent to not be able to draw either forcing them to pass their turn. That is an unhealthy game state and isn't good for the game. And considering it wasn't that hard to create that kind of gamestate with a proper deck and able to do it consistently that is when a card or a deck will break the game.
hey Team APS do You guys still play the legacy of the duelist I would like to duel with you guys some time
is a batteryman deck a helmet deck? cause that's my only deck right now lol
Kevin Dominguez dude you shouldn't care if it's a helmet deck, if you like the deck then play whatever you want!
I'm the least hardcore yugioh player, but I feel if it's not cheating it's simply effective. Until the creators or officials balance it out then it's just something to accept, not just in yugioh but in life.
I agree.
What I hate about the term "helmet deck" is that it's rude going off of its original meaning. They're basically saying a mentally challenged person could play it, and that's awful.
It's not only rude to criticize the decks people like so harshly, but the term "helmet" is just really in poor taste.
Hey team aps I'm a budget player and I was thinking of getting a herald of perfection deck, do you think I should invest into this deck please reply
+gamerz33k I don't know. Preparation of Rites being currently limited really hampers the deck's ability to operate consistently.
+Team APS I guess you're right that really hampered the deck,hey quick question maybe you can recommend me one deck I could use
+gamerz33k Igknightz
I know I'm months late about this, but I use the term degenerate only to describe things that are being promoted that used to be considered necessary to limit. Like Konami reached back and is trying to take things they deemed bad and make them seem nessecary to win. For example, if Dragon Rulers were so bannable for being able to make overextension plays every turn, why make a mechanic that does just that and keep the Dragon Ruler model banned?
When I finish Tellarknight, I'll be biking a lot more to my LGS, just so that when I make a play, I can flip my helmet like people flip fedoras in MLG videos.
what's the twitch channel ?
IN the defense of people who use the word "unhealthy," I think that it's actually accurate. I only use it when I played other games and see why doing it differently is a bad thing. Actually, this applies for broken as well. Mainly those two should probably be more "overused" yugioh terms.
as I've said many times; I quit yugioh because the game is in such a state that I can't stand. I like playing games where you don't have to play it a very specific way. This usually means that some strategies will be inherently countered by others. Take, for instance, you have a deck that puts pressure on naturally as the game goes on, and you have an early-game rush deck. The steady pressure deck will have trouble against a rush, inherently. However, early rush decks are susceptible to decks that are really defensive; if their rush doesn't kill, they should become mostly worthless, or slightly less powerful in the later stages of the game than others. This is cyclical balance, and it's why I like Vanguard.
Some decks decline and come into their own naturally as time goes on. New mechanics sometimes make decks lose power, while it provides a much-needed boost to others that may have been less relevant before the new mechanic. Basically, when you play Vanguard, you pick a deck that comes with inherent risks, that you must be aware of if you are to succeed.
+team aps I play a yugi muto gadget deck does that count as degenerate?
when it comes to the skillful term. they way most people describe it,it's what I would call a reactionary or toolbox deck that has lots of different combos for different situations. To me I do think some decks require more skill to master than others. like abc's it's a fairly easy deck to start off with because for the most part the goal is turn one dragon and sit. while a deck like synchrons may not be as easy to start with they have so many different combos. neither one is better or worse just different
when people say "degenerate" in terms of yugioh, they mean a strategy or card that boils the game down to a single purpose. for example, chicken game was considered degenerate because it boiled the game around the card, not the full game and all its strategies. I'd say card of demise is also degenerate because it generates a ton of advantage and racing to your demises is also a degenerate strategy.
Or is it degenerate to you because you cannot afford the card?
I play Spellcasters basically locking my oppenent into not using spells or traps I'm also trying to look for a card that locks all effect monsters well my oppenent at least 😥😥
Destiny Hero - Plasma
Is it okay to call a player a degenerate when they look up a champions kozmo deck and remake it claiming it as their own and then brag about how great they are even though their only other deck is a crummy spellcaster deck?
8BitDynamite what's wrong with a spellcaster deck?
I would say more that the deck is unoriginal more than degenerate.
The only thing i've really heard aside from skillful is broken and those cards are pretty much all banned except ones for the unpopular decks of course. Like for instance, spellbook of judgement can only be used with spellbooks and b/c it's a popular deck it was banned b/c you can get like plus 10 in one turn and the deck recycles. So yeah, it's extremely broken.
1:59 is when the video actually starts.
I don't have a themed deck it's just whatever was good went into it.
So basically like way back then cookie cutter chaos or goat and beast down.
+Freshbreeze That is the best way to duel. Nothing like using Evigishiki and Exodia in the same deck.
i dont like the term OTK, it applies to too much situations and theres so many variables to it that rely on your opponent not responding
or when someone says a deck is gay, what is that even supposed to mean
Literally means that it is a "one turn kill." There is nothing wrong with the term, because it is a defined meaning. 8000 all the way down to zero. (Or higher life if upstart was played)
+Ragnabolt
Wow.... your avatar is from one night werewolf!
PugShotGames but it may not be a one turn if the set up was there before the start of the turn, when its is used right like describing Cyber dragon deck combos that can kill on the first turn, but when it involves things like your opponent having an empty field and nothing to stop you, or you having set up previously i don't like it.
+Ragnabolt maybe, but it doesn't take away from the fact that you can't say it's a bad term. It has a defined meaning, that cannot be disputed. OTK means one turn kill. Meaning if they kill you in one turn, without ever putting damage on previously, that is an OTK. There are no variables to it, or how it happens. It is what it is, and is not a bad term, no matter how you want it.
PugShotGames i explained my reasons why i don't like it
if you summon a strong monster and shuffle all cards your oponent controls back into the deck and can negate a card once per turn but dont kill them on that specific turn, you have put them in a unwinnable situation, doesnt that count as OTK? you technically chekmate your opponent in one turn but the game would carry over for another couple of turns even though they would have 0 possible responses
pretty much every deck can do over 8000 damage in a turn but also every deck has ways of stopping your opponent from achieving that.
OTK gives the wrong impression as if none of the other turns before mattered and it should only be used when literally you only used turn 1 turn to win the game
Y'all should stream duel links. I'm curious what your opinion on the game is
the only thing i think is broken is current pendulums deck (dracopals). on of my friends plays it so i built some old powerfull decks and dracopals just beat the crap out of decks like empty jar otk/ftk zombie swarn, satellarknights, greydle kaiju, goat control and was even with towers turbo. wasnt able to propperly beat it without full force chaos yata lock. all decks were traditional format. i think that shows that pendulems are busted
I really like pendulums.. I've only played against one of those decks so far.. I know they may be "over" powered as well, but I destroyed it with kosmos and grand horn of heaven.. I keep two or three in my decks and blew up all his combos..
I hate it when I ask what a card does, and they say, "oh it's like armades" etc.. Just let me read the card...
I can definitely think of some much more hurtful or derogatory words that yugioh players use outrageously often. "Unhealthy" or "broken" cards is one thing. Calling players "noobs", or "scrubs", telling newer players to simply "git gud", or claiming that decks are "cancer"? That's not only annoying, it's hurtful.
The video could also be called:
"Top 5 annoying things that skillful, broken, unhealthy, cancerous, helmet players always say when they lose!"
Two years later Norden is banned because of how broken it was in zodiac format
I've heard the first 4 multiple times in recent history about my 'Pendulum Magicians' and didn't. know till now what tjey where saying.... Now im sorta pissed. Also heard the 'skillful' bit from a tsg partner once after i commented on them nuking my set up for virtually no pay out
Whenever I play with my hero deck and I beat one of my friends his excuse every time for losing is "oh your deck is broken that's the only reason you beat me". It's annoying. Not my fault I strategize my deck better then yours
Than*
but your deck is braindead.
+DarkDemon Gaming (DarkDemonGaming) how is my deck brain dead?
nate holt oh yeah lets go shadowmist into darklaw into bubbleman into acid. Ive faced hero decks multiple times. A toddler could play it
+DarkDemon Gaming first off. Whoever you play against that has a hero deck doesn't know how to play. Second I don't play with masked hero. I only play with elementals. And third if a toddler can play it then why aren't you using the deck?
"Nothing's broken."
Haha... Ahahahahah... Hehehehahahahahaheheheh...
AAAAAAAAH, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Oh, APS, you so silly.
+Chase's Channel spellbook of judgment isn't broken at all lol
So many pluses off this one top-deck draw.
the term "noob" it's thrown around so often people don't know the true term for it normally in exchange of "no skill" or "bad player" which also make my pet peeve list when in reality it means new player
Complaining about helmet/linear decks is something that shows you aren't a good Yugioh player. I mean, if you know what the deck is trying to but you can't stop it, what does that say about how good a player you are?
Its not a term but its when people fucking flick around the cards in deck profile and abbreviate every single card.
I feel ya. The word broken is thrown around in a lot of other communities and in the general populace as well. I kinda use it sometimes or agree when someone uses it. I am pretty salty about the balance of the things I get involved with. I can understand. In reality though I should probably get good. However, you might have a different opinion when you look at it from another view. There are workarounds for everything, but when something requires a certain counter that you're not necessarily prepared for or not able to deal with, you can find yourself taking the results with a grain of salt too. When faced with insurmountable odds, I tend to be displeased personally. In Yu-Gi-Oh, I can also understand it being less relevant though.
the only one of these you can see in dp is broken, witch we just use to tell other guys that they should fix the card
The skillful argument can be put to many things like Video games. I would give an example other than speedruns but many people would not like that.
get trell in more of the videos
+Bailey West he would but he mentioned in a previous video that trell lives in a whole different city and has to drive out to Paul's whenever he wants to make a video. it's just unfeasible
+Oden667 oh ok I didn't know that, I understand now
Alec and Alex are Paul's roomates, so you see them alot more often.
+Bailey West We want Trell! We want Trell!
yeah i feel like you nailed this one on the head. a lot these words fall under the justification aspect for people who want to hate on someone for playing a certain deck, and labeling a deck "helmet" is an excuse to why you lost. also it makes the players lazy when they just say "oh i cant beat it its helmet of course they won" instead of actually thinking to themselves "that deck isnt a good match up for mine, but HOW can i play around it and beat it. I can beat qli's with synchrons because i actually took the time to ask myself, "okay how can I improve my strategy to get over tower or ruin their scales". but a majority or people just want to write it off as a unbeatable deck so they can get over their lose and avoid actually thinking creatively
I agree with what you said about the term broken. My argument is the that special summoning as a whole is broken. I know it's meant to streamline the game because people don't want to spend three hours on one duel, but it's not that accessible to new players or older players who haven't played in a while.
I hated it when people purposely gave the cards names they never had back when I played the game. Like "Deikochi" and with this "Deiko". And they did not stop. Even when you flat out said "Dekoichi" they did not stop. Ohr pronounced "Jar" like "Chair" or "Luster" as "Lester". I mean some of the pronunciations were obviously because they could not speak proper English but in case of names like Dekoichi it simply is a name they did have no idea of.
I hate when people call archetypes 'decks'. This implies that there's only the one 40-60 card combination of cards and anything else is wrong. It also enforces and encourages net decking. A deck is any combination of 40-60 cards. I especially hate when people say "All the deck does" or "The deck runs (insert card(s) here)". Decks don't run. Players run cards in their decks.
+Emmy Zamora
This is true, however when people say that what they mean is " Generally this deck runs".
Lion Day Again, I would argue that decks don't run cards. Players run cards in their decks. But yeah I understand the sentiment that if a player is using a certain archetype, especially in the competitive scene, that they're more likely to play a certain card or a certain way that is easier to predict.
"Well your deck is higher tier, so of course you won" "I had a really bad hand"
Oh degen decks in mtg refer to fast rushdown/burn or like the counter control decks. Essentially anything that is un fun to play against? Also a wonky term
I say "helmet" is a dumb phrase like i was tol i was using a helmet deck while i was playing sylvans so i sent the guy my deck list to use against me and he couldnt figure out how to work the deck and said he kept getting bad hands when he most likely wasnt. and for broken i say only a few cards are close to broken one of which is infinty it has a built in infernity barrier and easy to make in any rank 4 deck but there are ways around it so it isnt fully broken maybe just a bit cracked
I always thought a helmet deck is where you have 1 monster on board and just keep it on board by protecting it. Bujin and Evilswarm were the premier helmet decks back in the day.
Whenever I hear the term "unhealthy," I tend to think of it as a negative for the card. Like to say that a card is "unhealthy" because it'll be a brick in most situations.
Have to agree with "broken". I play with older cards typically due to Yu.Gi.Oh mainly being a past time for me. So in the matches I typically play high caliber cards are going to be things like Egyptian God Cards, Exodia, Quintet Magician, 5 Headed Dragon. Maybe Cyber Dragon/E Hero fusions. (With the proper spell and trap support). Which at one time many of the cards I listed would have been considered to be broken. Like an Exodia Burn Deck with cards like Wall of Illusion, Witch of the Black Forest, Emissary of the Afterlife, etc would have been considered heavily broken against any deck that predates like a Pyramid of Light Deck, or Blue Eyes Shining Dragon themed decks. But if I tried to pit that same Exodia deck against anything modern on a Master Rule 4 playing field I'm gonna get shit on.
What annoys me is "GL HF" say it properly or don't say it, it loses all meaning when it's abbreviated and just seems like people are saying it because they feel like they have to...
love your channel bro! extremely useful and great information! keep on rocking! TeamAPS for the Win!
Appreciate that! :)
The ignorance, lack of knowledge, of people is what is most irritating about continually hearing these terms
"Degenerate" has become such a generic usage that it's completely lost its meaning. I've done a video on the topic.
"Unhealthy" just had an elitist attitude in concept since it assumes the person knows what is and isn't. Yugioh's never really been a "healthy" card game its always had broken decks
+AuraStorm Can you link the video?
+AuraStorm The only decks I ever hear called "Degenerate" are FTKs.
It's just because it takes the game from whatever state it's in (speed, building towards OTK, etc) to "watch me play solitaire."
Is it warranted in this context? Maybe, maybe not. However, most players just call any change to the state of the meta degenerate. "This meta is too fast, only other new decks even get a chance" seems to be the most common complaint.
In today's game, archetypes are designed with consistency in mind. As a result, cards have a lot of synergy and the combos are very obvious. I don't think that any deck can be called "skillful".
+babysinclairfan yo play X-sabers. it takes some skill to play that deck nowadays, because there are so many different options you can go for when the time comes to go off.
+Billy Blaster X-Sabers is an interesting deck, but every time I end up dueling it they always just open like the best hand possible and then hand loop me with Gottems, Ragi, and 2 Faultrolls. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Amethonys if you are letting yourself get hand looped 'every time' you are doing something wrong
I'll definitely give X-sabers a try! I believe I should revise my old comment. Decks take skill to play otherwise this game would be 100% luck! Skill is a factor without a doubt.
However, I feel that the challenge of deckbuilding has diminished a bit (although it still exists), simply because we have more defined guidelines of what cards go together.
babysinclairfan building your side deck, and knowing which cards to substitute in and out between games is the most skillful part of deck building imo. most people lose because they are not good at building and utilizing side decks properly
When people say 'degenerate', they usually mean that a deck, or play, ect. Is taking yugioh into a bad direction. For example with chicken race ftk, people don't like ftk formats, they're not fun, so they say chicken race is degenerate for yugioh
I always liked qli's, at least until they banned towers. that sucked all the fun out of the deck and I don't play them anymore.
im not an expert but i think in my humble opinion that FTK's , unrestricted loops and tactics that extend the acceptable level of unfair you see at the competitive level are in fact unhealthy and degenerate because more often than not 1 player is actively removing the two player element of a two player game, outside of that i think anything is pretty much okay, some cards are very strong and that needs to be the case of the game stops progressing, stops profiting and we lose out beloved children's card game.
My opinion on the term "broken" For a card to be "broken". It must meet 3 conditions:
1) That monster (if it's a monster) has infinite ATK/DEF. (Only Divine Serpent from the anime meets this requirement)
2) That card is immune to other card effects (especially if it's immune to opponent's card effects) and can activate effects with a built-in effect that prevents other cards from responding to it (even Counter Trap cards)
3) That card has a built-in floodgate effect that prevents your opponent from doing ANYTHING. (Mistake + The Last Warrior from Another Planet + Denko Sekka + Number S0: Hope ZEXAL in 1 card)
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+Volt46 FTKing your opponent does not let them do anything, because they lost. so FTKs are broken, and the cards that let you FTK are broken.
The only deck that can really be considered "broken" would be E Drags/Dragon Rulers back when they came out which is why Konami had to ban all of them.
In my school when my group uses broken it's a compliment😂
Tbh, I quit playing yugioh when xyz summons were introduced, switched to mtg for yearssss. About 3 months ago I picked up master duel and looked into current yugioh meta and it all seems unbalanced to be honest lol. First time I saw a turn one combo win with them filling their board I was stunned lol
I know its cool to watch a combo go off once or twice, but is having only 2 or 3 turn games not a turn off for most people???
degenerate doesn't only mean regressed. It can simply mean something is not normal to the point where it 'not being normal' is unhealthy or it leads to slippery slope. And that terms is actually pretty true for a lot of card games because power creep isn't healthy all the time. It does set degenerative precedent.
EDIT: Unhealthy is the next term. You might hate it but the banlist exists. Someone at Komoney thinks the card(s) is unhealthy for the game so they limit usage if not out right bans it. So....yeah
Can anyone think of a Halloween themed deck that's not Ghostricks and Shaddolls?
To be fair cards like Monkeyboard, Kozmo Dark Destroyer, Monarch pantheism, Chicken Game are all very unhealthy
Wavering eyes is fine I guess. Most cards nowadays are way too protected for example
Dark destroyer, Magnus, and ultimate falcon are all relatively easy to summon and have ultimate protection where as a card like Quasar who used to be the most game breaking card when it touched the board, even then had one way of stopping cards.
The former cards just flat out are very difficult get rid of though Magnus is the only card that deserves his immunities and effects but Ultimate falcon shouldn't have it. Dark destroyer doesn't have it but it floats like hell
Huh, I never really thought about this topic. This was an interesting video.
On the topic of "skillful," I think the more appropriate term would be "tactical." For example, Shaddolls have a lot of tricky effects and combos, but they have restrictions, too. So it comes down to knowing when the best time is to make a certain move. But using a tactical deck doesn't make you any better than someone using a "helmet" deck imo. It's just a matter of what playstyle you prefer.
like ppl saying pot of greed is BROKEN correct me if im wrong but I swear there are cards to destroy or negate pot of greed ijs
Degenerate generally means "this is what is wrong with Yu-Gi-Oh!". Decks that either completely shut down the opponent and make them unable to play the game (Naturia Beast, Cyber Dragon Infinity, Scale Ariadne/Luster Pendulum and Set Ultimate Providence. Pass.) or go +5 or more literally every turn (Exodia, practically any Pendulum deck, Nekroz, Shaddoll). They make the game go backwards because it creates this "how the hell do you beat this nonsense without doing it yourself?" mindset. That's my biggest problem with the game right now - every deck is either PePe, Pendulum Magicians, Exodia, or "I can play the game and you can't", and using the FUN archetypes like Gusto, Ice Barrier, Trap Monster, and even some of the older pseudo-meta like Yosenju and Fire Fist fall into this area now.
Let me put it this way, though. Degenerate = Inzektor/Wind-Up/Chaos Dragon format looks balanced in hindsight.
I feel broken doesn't apply to yugioh cards when it's not part of an archetype! Like snatch steal wasn't really broken because everyone can use it like raigeki
No. Snatch steal is a broken card. It could single handedly win games . There is no possible place for that card to be . There is a reason it only came off the list for a format . Konami released an official statement in. 2008 that all cards on the banlist will be taken off at some point before the game dies ( I'm paraphrasing)
+PugShotGames snatch steal dont win games it steals games
trickster is broken in my opinion, I lose in 1 or two turns unless i have an out in my hand right then and there.
I hate it when they toss the "poor deck" player card. If I don t pay 100 dlrs for a card I don t wanna use and don t actually need that doesn t make me poor, but smart
Degenerate specifically makes me cringe personally because it’s also a buzzword used by like bigots to refer to whatever group of people they hate and hearing it out of nowhere in Yugioh circles always makes me double take
As a returning player I couldn't agree more. Hearing these terms really makes me dislike getting back into the community.
Nickolas Kinder I'm trying to get a new community. I think my local one disappeared into the dark. It's not hard to deal with others though. You can't intimidate someone like me.
i love decks that can search stuff out and as well people do throw the terms out too much
I like using words such as dump, and rota but most are just cringe and rude which I honestly find very frustrating when all I want is just to play a card game and enjoy the experience and even if I lose I learn from mistakes and look up help and advice it’s just a shame that society take things too seriously and think it’s acceptable to below beginners with bullshit terminology and shallow perspectives
I completely agree with "broken" and "skillful". I do not understand the phrase power creep and assume it refers to the ease of FTK being made all to easy. I will say that having only burning abyss in a deck would be one hell of a handy cap to give an opponent. ?Every time I hear praise for them I mentally list the 5+ cards that easily place a non burning abyss creature on their field (Black Garden anyone). when stuff as stupid as creature swap and creature seizure block your plays or hell the extra deck it self trumps your own deck I do not see where they are worth the ink they are printed with.
floodgates are actually very healthy for the game i think there should be more of them....it keeps the meta in check