Figured I'd post this here since a lot of people seem to be confused and alienated by the sentiments and tone in this video. Trust me when I say that we are well aware of what we say and how we act in everything we record. We usually use jokes and sarcasm as a tool to make controversial topics more entertaining, and we play devil's advocate to encourage more open-minded thinking. Don't take our humor or approach too seriously. These are just videos, not hate speech. Keep that in mind and just enjoy the video!
Seems like this video was aimed at people who had never been apart of a competitive CCG scene before, might want to clarify that. Do you plan on doing an actual "returning players" guide for those of us with experience in CCGs?
Exactly this. I'm a "returning duelist" but I left the competitive scene in the 5Ds era. It took all of 3 minutes to review the new ban list, and about an hour to catch up on what XYZ and Pendulum cards are and how they work. It really sounds like they're picking on people who were 12 when they played the game last....and during the original 4th series booster era....like, they would be 25 - 30 now. I think they'll be able to read and comprehend the current rulesets (or one would hope). No one gets their understanding of the card game from the anime anymore, except little kids.
I can relate to a lot of these, especially the MST thing. I got back into yugioh right after the XYZ Monsters came out. When they came out with the Pendulums I stopped again cause I was like "Nah, they're doing too much right now" I was thinking about getting back into it after they release more Link Monsters, because Link Monsters kinda butchered the Pendulums
i bet your grandpas best card was supposed to be a blue eyes but then it turned out to be a Exodia set and thats how you got revenge on kaiba who ripped your grandpas blue eyes.
Lol I had friends like that back in school. This was back in Ecuador and we didn't really speak much English so sometimes we just kinda went by what the card LOOKED like. "Bear trap? well that clearly must kill a monster."
Tyesupersam94 lol! My old friend Owen was worse, he made up the rules and uses a 63 card main deck! He probably thinks pot of greed lets you draw 6 cards from your deck, then special summon a monster to your side of the field! XD
The only thing that's going to fuck up returning players are synchros, XYZs and Pendulums "I sac these 2 monsters to special summon a monster that has nothing to do with my decks theme and has some bullshit effect that's going to wipe your field effortlessly"
I guess I was lucky then because I quit mid-way through Synchros. XYZs were easy to figure out but Pendulums did take me a bit Comically, I'm currently working on a D/D/D deck, but not using the Pendulums the way the game is demanding me to play them.
Last I played, XYZ summoning was starting. I picked up on the new stuff fairly quickly. I know, I know. Special snowflake comment but it's unfortunate so many people are like this that it became a stereotype.
The game is too strict for casual trading now. The old prints are pretty much junk now and get more worthless with age. Now that everything is archetype based people are even more picky and nothing outside them or the very rare cards for that archetype are worth anything.
***** Exactly, Konami should just remove the entire "Trading Card Game" from the title. It should just be Yu-Gi-Oh!, because hardly anyone trades anymore. Instead, it's more like, "Oh hey Jimmy can I get some Blackwing cards?" "Sure Billy you can get some of my Blackwing cards. They're 5 cents each" Billy Hands Jimmy $2, and Jimmy hands Billy 30 useless cards that 5 years old. "Pleasure Doing business with you Jimmy"
..and then realize that what you enjoy will never ever be viable competitively. Seriously, like 90% of players will never even enter regionals. Don't have a stroke upon learning that your deck will not achieve worl champion status. You can still play it most of the time. I really like to! Just don't expect achieving titles. Enjoynment is only a factor when you play with your friends or local card shop guys. When you go competitive, you just play the meta. If you want it or not. Your rogue deck won't suddenly counter the guy that shuts you down in 2 turns or even less.
For me, i got back into the game with Legacy Of The Duelist on xbox one. it literally teaches you everything about every new mechanic in the game, includes a ban list to let you know that's a thing, and does it in a painless manner.
Team APS I know it maybe seems odd but can you make a video YGO VS MTG even if u were a YGO player,and tell us why u prefer YGO, and if u tried MTG before or not !? cuz I Love YGO but people keep saying MTG is better,and I need to know the truth.
this list basically boils down to "the game is no longer fun, you cant play with a deck you like unless its from the meta list." because "pro players" ruin everything.
It wasn't any different in competitive yugioh back in the day. Even in "old school" yugioh you would have a hard time playing competitively if you weren't playing something meta. Doesn't change the fact that you can still play whatever you want casually with friends.
The difference is that Don Zaloog and Sakuretsu were replaced by Effect Veiler and the 57 new Mirrors. (Or whatever the big shots call meta these days)
Playing casually gets annoying though when your friends don't want to play in a consistent format. I hate having to at least try to play loose tournament style for practice and the nostalgia scrubs don't want to even try to follow the most flexible of the new rules. People who fell out from the old days that just want to play school yard style and cheat when it doubt. Those people.
this is kind of putting down some old returning players. A lot of this would affect 'scrub' players. Not having sleeves on your cards for example. And not following the rules. it makes it sound like all people who played back in the day didn't care for their cards much and didn't know how to play and knew after 5ds or they quit because of that. Other than that, it is hard to get back. As someone who stopped playing before 5ds, the mechanics and speed are both daunting and scary. It is the reason I still haven't come back. Buying cards, I can get around because I can use duel simulators but the problem is I don't know 90 percent of the the new cards. I am still interested in the game and want to keep up with it but as a spectator not unlike a sports fan following the game.
+Blank xx000 not all new players hate old players yes were in a new Era of the game its called change. While I enjoy team APS opinions some times they can be wrong . Rouge decks can compete with the meta . Older players have to learn to move on
I respect what you have to say . I actually have giskies they fun to play with. People have to respect the older players because they apart of the reason we still have the game . I hope I don't get roasted for saying this idk I'm I'm consider a old or new player I played during the original era but got serious about the game during the 5ds Era ( favorite season Yusei # 1 . When I was junior 2 years ago my friend showed and proved that older cards can make a difference . I was shocked he got out Relinquished ( I was screwed I had no way to beat it )
I'm glad you brought up the point of card "worth." I have quite a few cards that may be worthless to someone else but I have memories attached to them and in the end, that's what matters to me.
That speed thing totally puts me off from returning. I think I'll just keep collecting. My LOB 1st edition set was ridiculously hard to compile but I finally did it after having sold my house, wife and half of my children. Now it's time for MRD.
As much as it strings me these are all true but that doesn't take away the feeling that yugioh has ruined its self and reading the disheartened comments doesn't help
This is going to be hard to accept for a lot of school-yard elitists I know. The ones that like to double draw and call time outs when they get caught. etc. The ones that like to read the card effects right before they activate something in response, or people that like to MST on MST. Oh boy...
Well nowadays its really based on your idea of fun. Yugioh has become extremely competitive and if you wanna stand a solid chance in a competitive match you have to play the top tier $600 deck that's dominating everything else. If that's what you find fun then go for it, but if you want something thats not as intimidating and strategic but calm Yugioh may not be for you.
Dude screw those guys. Im an old school casual player and im proud of it i refuse to play with pendulums or any other new mechanic. Everyone i know switched to magic the gathering because the game of yugioh became just no fun anymore and for the people who still play yugioh, they all use old school cards/combo decks. Just total bullshit.
Good. Most will just complain and bitch about it anyway. If they return and give it a chance, good for them. But most complain about it way in advance. I stuck with it through out it all, i've seen change, i complain when it's necessary. Some of these old heads don't.
Played super scrubby in the beginning, stopped around the beginning of the GX era. Met some guys in college who reintroduced me back into the game around when synchros were new-ish and Lightsworn were the big thing. I got my first taste of competitive Yugioh, and tried to cobble together a workable deck from the old trash cards I had. Stopped after about a month because those friends lost interest. Later on, right after XYZs were made, I actually got into competitive yoogs, made a competitive deck and dedicated myself to getting good. Topped some locals here and there. After graduating, I quit again because the only people I plays with were still in school. (Pendulums had just come out). Just a month ago I got sucked back into the game again. I've had multiple instances of being reintroduced to "new" Yugioh, and every single time is a "wtf" experience.
The rules I made up for the Egyptian God cards when I was a kid: Slifer gets ATK and DEF points equal to the number of cards currently in your hand while you are summoning him x1000 and when he is summoned, he can attack as many times as you want for that turn when he is summoned. This was supposed to be the reason why "the heavens twist and the the thunder roars" when he came out. Ra gains ATK and DEF points equal to the number of dragons or dragon-type monsters you have on your side of the field x1000 because "he was the ruler of dragons" (because he was a dragon that looked super cool, so why not?). Also, he could target any or all spells or traps your opponent had on their side of the field and destroy them as well as completely negating any and all of their effects, because he was imbued with immense magical power which was why "spirits sang of him" and he "ruled over all that is mystic." Obelisk gets ATK and DEF points equal to the number of monsters in your hand that you sacrificed to the graveyard x1000 added to his 4000 ATK and DEF points. You could just "regular" summon (normal summon) him, but you would just get his regular 4000 ATK and DEF. You had to be willing to "make sacrifices" to "honor him" if you wanted him to grant you access to this effect and use his full might after calling upon him. While he was on the field, your life points would be immune to damage from monster attacks or effect monster effects and you could only take damage if your opponent activated a spell or trap card that inflicted life point damage. (Because of how strong and buff he looked on the card, he was the "ultimate defender" and therefore could block any and all attacks from enemy monsters of any type or strength level.) Also, I played where the gods were completely immune to any and all card effects, whether they were effect monster effects, spell effects, or trap effects, not just while they were being summoned, but during the entire time they were out on the field. Also, they were immune to being destroyed by battle, even if another monster gained higher ATK points than them; they just wouldn't be able to destroy that monster either and a battle between them would be stalemate (neither monster would die). (My logic at the time = they're gods, so they should be immortal and therefore un-killable). And I also had this rule where if someone managed to summon all three gods and have them out on their side of the field at the same time, they automatically win, like having the five pieces of Exodia, because they were so mighty that "their combined presence was completely overwhelming" (like exiting a dark movie theater and then stepping out into a bright noonday sun).
I returned to the game about 2-3 years ago because my baby sister discovered my harpie lady deck and she wanted to learn how to play the card game. Yugioh helped us bond. She now runs a harpie deck of her own as well as Ghostricks and Vampires.
Here's a hard truth for modern players, the game is now SHIT. Back in the day, you had to think on your feet, you didn't have like 3 or 4 decks that everybody used so you never knew what you were getting into so you didn't always have a response and had to work around it. The game was also fun, not just the duels, the building part. You didn't have everyone using the same decks, you had creativity and people using cards just because they liked them. The game may have been slower but that was great, what's the point in spending hundreds on cards when you only use them for like 2 minutes per duel? I had duels that lasted like half an hour minimum and It was fun as every turn was different, control of the duel shifted. I respect that things change and move forward but this game went from being fun, creative and mentally stimulating to boring 2 minute duels using scripted moves that are used over and over with like 3 decks that everyone has. If you enjoy the game now, fantastic! But I just can't anymore.
Shockwave Entertainment So what you're saying is that the meta didn't exist? Fuck off. People will always use the best cards and strategies available to them at the time if they want to win. People today still play decks that they find fun that aren't overly strong.
Meta was always a thing. Even in goat format. It was beatdown. Beatdown control, chaos control. There was always a meta. Not sure what you are talking about.
Your opinion is quite validated, in fact I’m on your side on a few points. Although this video was more aimed towards the competitive scene. Like I play Magi the Gathering right. I have my $1800 artifact modern deck for competitive and I have my $20-$25 burn deck for messing around and having fun with the game. Like you can still play yugioh anyways you like man. And unfortunately most games including video games only look at the competitive side of the game and they forget about what made the game fun in the first place, as you mentioned. Basically what I’m saying is every games has two sides to it. The competitive side and the let’s have fun and try and win but we’re gona do it my way side (casual) I kind of hate the word casual idk why. But ya just my thoughts.
Me in 2014 playing Yu-Gi-Oh 60 card worthless deck random cards I liked No archetype! Big boss monster was an Arcana Force Card. Now, 40-45 card deck Archetype, example Masked HERO's Cards actually fit within the deck! I think I've improved 😀
Hardest truth for me is learning the effects of all the new cards. I miss the days where I could see the picture and know instantly what it did. Slowly but surely I'll get there again.
@@Mcormic idk why, but somehow, for some reason I very much resonate with this comment. Did I really play that much Yu-Gi-Oh in my younger dayz? Idk. I miss some of the cards I used to own but it is what it is. That's kinda the thrill of the ride too, is building up a stock again.
Fuck archetypes! Yugioh used to be so much more fun when combo decks where around. The game has evolved in a way that feels like another game all together. It doesn't feel like Yugioh anymore. Specially since pendulums. Even synchros and XYZ weren't that bad. I remember having a great combo deck right before synchros came around. But when they came out they actually make my deck even stronger. It was a good mechanic. Then i quit the game cause archetypes became so fucking broken it was basically all you had to play if you wanted to win. And that's just boring as fuck
I quit in 2006 because Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning was broken and literally made me lose games when I was winning. I came back now because Magician Girl archetype was released xD
Tbh as an old player I like this new stuff when I got back into it, LOVE Archtypes. Mainly 'cause now my deck has a real "theme" outside being fairies/dragons/zombies etc etc etc.
I know right? When I played and collected there was no way you could play a themed deck. It had to be some kind of control deck. Jinzo/ Cyberdragon were the biggest monsters, etc
I have always been a returning player (I started back when I was a kid, then left, came back, left, came back, then left, and now I came back again) and I have been playing quite a bit to the ps2 and GBA YuGiOh games, and I can´t help but feel that even there were super broken cards back then, the game was more fun, and in some way, more balanced back then. Because I feel that the "I reveal my face down card" that was going on with the older generations was kind of cooler than whats going on today. And i can say that because I have been playing a basic Fire deck and a Zombie deck, both of them with some changes, and it´s super fun when I battle decks of the same era (even if they have the broken cards that are now banished or limited) but when I try to fight a more modern deck I get destroyed, and that, you "new" players like it or not, is having an unbalanced game. The fun of a trading game with dozens of thousands of cards is to be able to take cards from here and there and create a deck that has a very good synergy and is able to do its thing consistently. But as it is right now it seems that the game just leaves behind the old stuff not because it´s not cool, but because Konami bans the old cards that were good just to make people buy more new cards that can kind of replace the old ones. I dunno, at least that´s my point of view. I don´t mind tho, since I can play the old games with the old banlist and the good cards. I just don´t see the fun in being competitive to the point of playing just things that win. Cheers!
Artec619 Lots of cards are on the list for sales and other dumb shit But the majority are there to avoid a coin toss format as Who can otk each other first would depend on a dice roll
Dark Duel Stories in the Game Boy Color would limit the options to lower power cards if the cards put in the deck were too powerful. The game would be more balanced if it were like that for the TCG
All well and good, but there's one big elephant in the room, regarding this list. And that is that you can rectify almost every point on this list, and still be no better at the game. And it all boils down to this. You need to build a better deck? How? What is defined as better? You've just been overwhelmed by thousands upon thousands of cards that you've never even heard of, and you're expected to rummage around in that heap blindly and find the cards that will make you that better deck? Because that what it feels like for a returning player. That overwhelming variety of cards is the most intimidating thing about, and it's knowledge of those cards that defines the good players from the bad. Among the yugioh community I've seen hierachies formed around that very aspect, as well as money. And as a returning player you're stuck at the bottom of that heap, with nobody to help you make your way up. What really should be said to the players is this. If you want to return to the game, find somebody who's willing to show you the synergies, the archetypes, the playstyles, the particular good cards, and their more situational varients. Test them out and give a feel for their play, without the pressure to buy the cards, at least until they truly know which cards are worth buying. Perhaps then one can start to build a 'better' deck.
That you can look up "Meta Yu-Gi-Oh Archetype" and easily find deck lists to make meta decks. At that point you just buy and read your fucking cards. It's true that there are ALOT of cards, but figuring out which ones are useful/viable is a simple google search away.
10 years ago when I started, I had an amazing Blue-Eyes deck that beat everyone. I got back into it, watched this video, and helped me up that ante so now I have a turn 1 Blue-Eyes Twin Burst Dragon. Thanks guys!
I got back into Yu-Gi-Oh in September. Luckily I had played some of the DS games and I understood how card rulings and such work. It was quite the climb, but I'm almost not a scrub anymore. All I really need is a physical deck to play and I'll be set. What I would suggest to anybody getting back into the game is to not be afraid of net-decking. Sure you should definitely make your own decks, but it helps a LOT if you learn how modern competitive decks work before you try to make your own
The way I see it, netdecking is more a way to learn trends and patterns in decks. You can take a few decks and see some similar or identical cards (Mostly techs and staples) that help make your decks more competitive. However, the best way to make a deck is from first-hand plays and such. Find out your own weaknesses and cover them. However, netdecking whichever deck wins doesn't make you learn, to be honest. For example, that new stall deck; I cannot play DN ranked anymore because all I face are boring stall, exodia or Kozmos (I have not actually seen any of the other "meta" decks yet (This is coming from someone who had over 700 rating at one point). Nobody likes the guy who netdecks the winning deck, just like nobody likes the guy who steals someone elses art. TL:DR; Netdecking is fine for new players to learn the basic structure of a deck, but not acceptable if you're just copying whatever deck just won because you think you'll win automatically. It's like those people who netdecked PePe not terribly long ago despite the fact they had no idea how pendulums worked Plus, the guy who won with X deck is considerably better than whoever netdecked them, you don't become pro by netdecking.
No monster reborn, no pot of greed, no harpies feather duster, no sangan, no graceful charity, no premature burial but worst of all....no change of heart? literal corner stones of the first ever starter decks when i was a kid back in 01-03...just a shame. Plus everybody having basically the same decks now or a limited pool of decks takes away the fun of building your ragtag deck and pitting it against others. That's what made yugioh fun when i was kid, the spectrum of possible combinations you faced when you played against others
Now you can play up to 3 Sangan!Let's be real here all of the cards that you mentioned besides Sangan are broken.And yeah playing against meta decks can be boring but It's not always meta decks.They are some non-meta or anti-meta decks that are fun.
First of all Team APS I respect your opinions there are some people who in high school play with the banned list . From my freshman to senior year I got friends back into the game , And I have them watch your videos because of the passion that you have for the game
+Team APS something you should note from your decks that you hate playing against. there's chain burn that can and will top if someone builds it right. because my chain burn still shits on every meta deck out there rn. unless there's 1 that can burn me for over 10k life points without attacking me?
Sergio Sanchez It's a monster with a black frame and stored in the extra deck And depending on its "rank" (the little stars it has) It needs two monsters with the same level an example would be the XYZ monster ,Number 39: Utopia It's a rank 4 so it needs 2 level 4 monsters Simple right?
*XYZ-Dragon Cannon* "X-Head Cannon" + "Y-Dragon Head" + "Z-Metal Tank" Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by banishing the above cards you control. (You do not use "Polymerization".) Cannot be Special Summoned from the GY. You can discard 1 card, then target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy that target.
I know I am late to the party, but I too agree with a lot of the comments about the tone of this video. I read your disclaimer about the jokes and not taking things seriously but the video still felt condescending and honestly made me feel like I didn't belong. I am 22 and it has been at least 10 years since I played and/or collected and I just started getting back into the game. I am doing my best to relearn and enjoy this game again, but when you shit on my paper mat or my lack of supplies because I just started up again, makes you sound snobby, entitled, and pretentious. For a kid watching this, or anyone watching this, coming back into the game, this video could easily bully someone into not coming back. Being 22, I already feel super insecure about playing this game again around my peers, so watching a video portraying the community beating me down as well doesn't stand up to my standards for your videos. I watch and love your videos, mostly because they help me, teach me. make me laugh, enjoy the game, and make me feel welcomed into the community of YUGIOH and TCG. This video sadly does the complete opposite for me. I am probably being way oversensitive, but perception is reality, and I believe a lot of other viewers feel the same. Thank you for your time, and remember I am not hating, just an opinion, because I really do love your videos.
I recently got back to the game and it was bc of you guys of the team APS that I did. I wanted to play again but I wasn't sure so I searched for some videos on the new rulings and stuff an I found your channel. Your content and the way you enjoy the game made me want to play again. Thank you, guys
I’ve been collecting on and off for about 20 years, I was a kid in 2002, but I loved this game and have thousands of cards from the original all the way through Synchro. I started to lose interest when synchros came in, and fell back to OG decks, playing high atk 4* because it’s more fun for me. I’m just getting back into collecting again, and I have no idea what’s going on with XYZ and the newer decks. I play link evolution online with my 2004 ish setup and my opponents turns last 10 mins, summoning xyz and detaching for effects. Is there a video you have that simply breaks down how those work? I feel like I have absolutely no shot against them. It feels like it’s just a lot of memorization, and chaining setups instead of basic strategy and it’s really throwing me through a loop. Any help or recommendations on a basic xyz deck / or if you have any videos covering this at all, I would appreciate it a lot. I still spend a lot of money ordering cards, but mostly 1st edition holo original cards, alternate arts, promotional/cc4 but I would love to break into the new generation of dueling. Just don’t know how to start
I understand how all the old fusion decks /ritual decks, and most synchros work with summoning, but stuff after that seems really hard I guess is what I’m saying
well, i'm 2 years late to answer, but, the appel of the modern game is that is pretty fun to make the combos and pull out 5 extra deck monsters in a single turn, or in case you have a control deck, negate this massive extra summoning. every deck falls into the 3 categories of agro, midrange or control, but each archtype is unique and has their own mechanics and it's just fun seeing your deck doing the function it's supposed to. now i need to say old yugioh just felt way better, it was a lot simpler and much more friendly to new players. but hey, yugioh is the power creep game, and is suppose to grow stronger and more complex with every new set. if you prefer simpler games, try magic the gathering, it hasnt changed much since it's original release since it relies on mana and the few new mechanics are easy to get.
I got my first yu gi oh structure deck a few years ago and my little brother wanted to split it. So I gave him the light cards and I got the dark cards. One day he came up to me and showed me a ruined lightpulsar and blue eyes white dragon that he left in the washing machine.....ffs
+Mad Mothz Or mirror force. And that card is in my main deck but now i just put my main deck in my memories box. Now i just play yugioh games and starting to collect yugoh cards again that's it. And me and my friends just play the old rules of yugioh cause we still have all our old decks.
I'm a returning player to Yu-Gi-Oh after like 8 years (I'm currently 18), and from being a childhood fan. I played when I was in elementary school, and I've been trying to get back into it, and explore/research all the new changes, so I can work myself up into the tournament styled ranks. I love your guy's videos, their funny AND helpful, and I just really appreciate all of the content you put into your guy's videos! Thank You 🙌
Something EVERY new and returning player needs to know: Those of us who have been in the game from the beginning and are STILL playing are gonna whip your ass with combo decks, archetype decks, ban lists, no ban lists... or whatever format. PERIOD!
For a guy thats coming back into the game after 12 years since his last duel I found this real and straight to the point! Honestly I'm very happy link summoning is going on because I feel like it's easier to process then syncro summoning which I have no idea how to do 😂 or even XYZ summoning. You weren't kidding when you said this game is expensive, I'm building a golden castle of Stromberg deck that is different then what's out but is gonna cost me around $650 and that includes a ln extra deck. And since my last cards weren't worth much, the cards I bought now are heavy hitters in the game and value. Thank you for this video and would love to see more videos educating us dinosaurs (I'm only 27 tho) on new arcatypes or anything that would be useful to help lookout for including dangerous decks.
I feel like the way the game is going now. it's off putting to younger audiences you have to have an archetype that can cost 100 dollars for a deck than they have to buy all the accessories like a playmat and deck box and sleeves. Than a game ends in 1 turn maybe two and you need to be familiar with every cards rulings. there is so much to learn and the younger audiences can't get in the game because of this.
I love how the first thing out of their mouths are talking shit to the old school players and assuming we didn't know anything we was doing... boys please, 2 mins into this video and not even gonna watch anymore.
Cross Dement Playing with friends doesn't really matter though lol they're assuming the old players didn't know how to read basic rules. the first 2 mins of the video was literally talking shit about us. I myself and many other people I knew back then actually knew the rules and topped several tournaments. I myself even went to tournaments on behalf of TrollnToad here in Kentucky. So you'd be surprised. but the same can be said for players these days. There are players out there that are new players and don't know half the shit they're doing when it comes to the game. Trying to be helpful to returning players is one thing, talking shit and acting like they're all a bunch of idiots is another.
DjShadows Gaming well we are sorry the guys didn't focus on YOUR personal situation and instead focused on what the majority is like. Honestly I'm with them on this.
Cross Dement Lol I focused on the simple fact that the opening two mins was nothing but shit talking so... don't be sorry my opinion stands as simply that my opinion and even if you agree with them or not you know I'm right in saying that all they did was shit talk for two mins straight but, but its whatever lol
It's not that they're arrogant, it's just so common hearing these things that it gets old. People ask their friends that play to get back in the game, expect to win with 10 year old cards, then get really mad and stubborn when they see the game has progressed. I understand if someone just wants nostalgia, but these are people assuming theyll be competitive. it just gets old, and i just got into the game last year after playing when the game first came out.
You would get your Chaos empeorer dragon with an oldschool deck at best at your 3rd turn. You would be lucky if you had survived till then with your old monster and spll/traps
Need to say it, monster reborn isn't banned anymore it's limited, and in my pen magicians, had to take out the ftk though, I foresee it banned in april
I'm coming back after 2 years the community seems worse and all the new cards are overwhelmingly insert many words. But I remember coming back before xyz and pendulum it seemed easier but now I'm not sure where to begin
Not all returning players are scrubs. I'd think this video is geared towards giving up to date players a laugh than to actually help the older players. The first few minutes would of had someone actually looking for help to click off. When I was a returning player (left during the latter half of GX, returned during the beginning of Zexal), I played my own variant of a Des Frog OTK. The first thing I did was correct an actual scrub on timing and OTK'd his Rank4 Utopia Deck.
This video was probably something I needed back in my freshman year high school when I was first getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh. I was lucky enough that after I graduated one of my old friends managed to get me fully back in the game and explained everything I needed to know and also showed me the ban list. There's probably a lot I need to learn, mostly in terms of deck building, but I'm glad there's more people out there willing to tell new and returning players about the changes over the years.
This really helped me really get back into the scene and you guys broke it down for me nicely as opposed to just rushing into my locals without learning about the game
y'all do know we had boxes, sleeves, dice, a ban list, we spent money, we had archetypes and even some playmats back in the day right? I took 10 years or more off, built a variation of a deck I ran in 04 and still topped against everything. y'all have a lot to learn about us vets
So I'm one of the many returning players who got linked to this recently. As a kid I did go to locals and so I'm happy that some of the things I learned there carried over (sleeves, paying for cards, stuff like MST), but even still. This stuff is overwhelming. Thanks for putting the video together. This definitely puts things in perspective and makes me think about whether or not I really want to get back into the game after all. Not because of the new stuff to learn, but other things. I dunno. It's stuff to think about. Thanks again.
Literally everything you guys said was and somewhat still is exactly me with yugioh today and in the past. It's kinda hilarious actually how hard it is to accept all these new changes. I have a life example that resonates for everything you mentioned. That one MST comment was the highlight. Great apt analysis guys. Thanks so much, I can't wait to show friends who are just starting out
YGO has gotten too easy tbh. Every card now-a-days has a crutch and I don't want to hear, well all you need to do is side this, NO! I don't want to hear that bullshit! Kozmo's can't be targeted, when the majority of cards in the game have target effects, and every time you get rid of one they have an effect to drawback on. Majespecters can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects and you get a search every time you summon one. Burning Abyss when they are sent to the graveyard, you get to use "so and so's" effect, with no limit on the amount of times you can use the effect. It's just more and more BS added every set and plz, don't even get me started on the banlist. If they aren't going to start hitting cards when they need to be hit, what is the point of even having one?
"Elitist" I think this is helpful. If someone couldnt handle these simple truths then they probably wont bother learning how the cards work and wont get far if they come back to the game.
Hey, what deck would you recommend I should try to build after just getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh! After having only played the game a few times about 8 years ago? I'd also like to make a deck basen on the Red-Eyes Cards, just because Red-Eyes was always my favorite card as a kid. What do you recommend I should try?
A little late, but Blue-Eyes and Dark Magician are good to get back into, they aren't too complicated, and don't rely too much on the Extra Deck. I would recommend your red-eyes after making one of those.
Thanks for the video. I'm definitely a returning player, so much has changed since I played in middle school. Some friends and I plan to get back into the game casually, there's not many players around my local area though. You did earn a new subscriber.
"scrub school, scrub friends, scrub decks" Congrats on exhibiting the exact behavior that made me quit this game competitively. Punk antics like this made loosing AND winning not fun. If I won, I was a scrub for using expensive "meta" cards. If I lost I was a "scrub" for using a deck that wasn't filled with expensive cards. Nice to know this game's player base hasn't grown up one bit. >_
1. mac tbh pendulums arent that hard to deal with. Sure they can be a pain but there are many many cards that counter them that are used in most decks today such as solemn strike and twin twister
i started playing legacy of the duelist on xbox and i've learned all the basics besides pendulum, but how do i keep up to speed because i watch so many videos but i have no idea what they're talking about lol
Dare To Zlatan google YGOPro and download it from their discord, it's the best way to play the game with up to date rulings...on the pic version at least :p , I just started getting back into it myself and I relearned everything through that :) .....well a lot not everything yet sadly lol
Dare To Zlatan well its all part of having card knowledge! What you can do is actually keep up with the meta and actually trying new cards/decks so you know how they run for yourself! Also watch yugitubers who have daily card news so you can know ahead of new potential meta decks! I recommend Azyneyeswhitedragon aka Slaydra. He does daily news the first second a new card is leaked!
I've been playing since 2002 and all I'm gonna say is fuck pendulums. It's a cancer to the series. People thought things like Shockmaster were OP? Nope!
NightcoreCentral ehhhh pendulums are actually not that hard to deal with. There are many many cards that people use in most decks that lock down pendulums such as solemn strike and twin twister. Also banishing is a huge huge weakness of pendulums!
I was attacked when you said “water deck” haha. I haven’t played any yugioh since GX so I’m very behind. I knew the game changed with Synchros, Tuners, ext but I never adapted or took interest in it. Recently went to a card store with my friend since we’ve been getting into old yugioh again and got some new cards from my other friend. We walked in and immediately felt outcasted and noticed how far behind we are. Don’t think I’ll pick up yugioh after that day.
Your reference has been Grade school. That is sufficiently wrong. That was like 20 years ago for me. You just mainly reference decks that were made in like 2000. That's not a realistic look at the game. Opposed to that, take a look at the last 10 years. Cards did not change how they work. The whole GAME changed how it works. Multiple mechanic changes have been introduced in that "short" lifetime of the game. They changed the game itself. And many didn't like it. This isn't just a "old man yells at clouds" situation like you want to make it out to be. The game changed. There is no more strategic plays in this game. You can't react to a play anymore. You get your combo, you win. Your opponent shuts you down, he wins. It's much more akin to gambling at the higher levels of play. Which is what Konami wants to propagate.
it's not just old old returning players, even veterans of the game in 2007-2012 will have a very hard time adjusting to the stupid game mechanics like xyz exceeds where every archtype has 3 or more special exceed summon cards unique to the deck that you have to understand. Plus every archtype has it's own spells and effect monsters to read up on or else you won't fully understand what is happening. Draw 5 on turn 1 now not 6... Enjoy watching your opponent play solitaire with their hand and extra deck. I quit because it's no longer the game I love. It's horrible like magic the gathering now.
"Enjoy watching your opponent play solitaire with their hand and extra deck. " I dunno why but I fucking love that. It is like Solitaire now that I think about it, with spam summoning with pendulums and effect monsters to bring out almost a full field of stacked up XYZ and Synchro cards.
XYZ format was the easiest to get into for me honestly, they were the least archetype specific cards that were flexible to summon. Synchros just ruined everything.
I went through 4 boxes of Cross Souls for Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit. I refuse to paid $80 for one card. I'll say this though, I do miss playing the "Yata Lock" deck growing up #freeYata #freeStratos
I truly loved this video I’m getting back into yu-gi-oh I loved the game as a kid and I truly appreciate the honesty brought to me, and a lot of other players, by you guys about the game and how it has advanced. Now if you excuse me I have to take a look at my decks now and re-do them lol.
I came to this video because I quit playing like five years ago and you guys just act like anyone who quit was just a scrub so I learned zero helpful tips so thanks for nothing!
thetowelbringer This isn't meant to be a video on tips , this is a video to tell you all the shit you'll have to understand before you start playing again
Well it clearly changes alot whith the timespan and the Knowledge you left. Within 5 years i guess only linksummon is new? But many of the Points still stands, the pricetags for your Cards are probably lower, your deck is very likely overshadowed by newer strategies.... So i think this post is an Little too salty. Ist yust an Little depressing you might even translate it to "do not start playing again and start with an slower progressing tcg" but what they tell you here is not wrong.
Ahegao A Dark Magician Tin goes for around $200. for a bunch of old cards that aren't supposed to be worth anything, they're sure worth something. Alot of people are seeking the older packs and tins. Stupid people paying high amounts of money for cards that aren't worth anything, right? 😂
jceyx _ There's quite a difference between what you're saying and what the video is saying. People will pay a lot of money for unopened tins or packs or boxes because they're unopened, not because of whatever cards are in the set. Collectors will never, ever open that Dark Magician tin because that would ruin its collector's value. That said, the video wasn't 100% clear on its statement either. People won't pay much for your old cards that aren't in print anymore, UNLESS they have been protected and kept in mint condition or as close to mint condition as possible. The problem is that most people probably kept their cards from that era in a shoebox or a low-end binder, degrading their quality and making them worth little to nothing for collectors.
If you’re so “aware” of the tone you’re taking why even upload the video? The title made it seem like you were encouraging people and we’re gonna give helpful insight...
NEW SUMMONING lmao i left yugioh wayyyy back in the day when synchros came out just got back into the game with a shaddoll dino deck, love the videos keep it up
I use some new cards, but mostly old cards still. No link summons, jo snycro, only 1 fusion for the Stein deck and 1 xyz for my warrior deck. I also have chain burn, noble knight, and spellcaster. Mostly 3 of everything besides some 2s and obviously some limited cards. So your saying mirror force, cylinder, and more run of the mill traps and spells arent worth using now?
Paul Hensley now adays yea I don't doubt it, but when I played he was a staple and Everyone ran Jinzo, this was before archetypes and all these new mechanics back when u just played a deck of good cards
so... when you say "your ________ deck won't work now", you mean the deck I grab off my shelf nd had in middle school (Junior High)? I'm sorta looking into getting back into dueling (mostly because I'm watching the OG series and I'm feeling nostalgic and I'm looking around the internet for Spellcaster/Dark Magician centred decks to use/build off of. Would buying a bunch of cards for a decent deck I found on a message board (at least to start off) be a bad way to ease my way back in?
Figured I'd post this here since a lot of people seem to be confused and alienated by the sentiments and tone in this video. Trust me when I say that we are well aware of what we say and how we act in everything we record. We usually use jokes and sarcasm as a tool to make controversial topics more entertaining, and we play devil's advocate to encourage more open-minded thinking. Don't take our humor or approach too seriously. These are just videos, not hate speech. Keep that in mind and just enjoy the video!
Team APS Is pot of greed banned? I have a ton of that card. Edit: I'll use it anyways.
Seems like this video was aimed at people who had never been apart of a competitive CCG scene before, might want to clarify that. Do you plan on doing an actual "returning players" guide for those of us with experience in CCGs?
Exactly this. I'm a "returning duelist" but I left the competitive scene in the 5Ds era. It took all of 3 minutes to review the new ban list, and about an hour to catch up on what XYZ and Pendulum cards are and how they work.
It really sounds like they're picking on people who were 12 when they played the game last....and during the original 4th series booster era....like, they would be 25 - 30 now. I think they'll be able to read and comprehend the current rulesets (or one would hope). No one gets their understanding of the card game from the anime anymore, except little kids.
I can relate to a lot of these, especially the MST thing. I got back into yugioh right after the XYZ Monsters came out. When they came out with the Pendulums I stopped again cause I was like "Nah, they're doing too much right now" I was thinking about getting back into it after they release more Link Monsters, because Link Monsters kinda butchered the Pendulums
Mackseat Gaming I still don't know wtf pendulum cards do. I'll stick with my elemental heroes for now!
But.........my Grandpas deck has no pathetic cards...😢😢😭
i bet your grandpas best card was supposed to be a blue eyes but then it turned out to be a Exodia set and thats how you got revenge on kaiba who ripped your grandpas blue eyes.
The good days where you didn't need tributes.
Amiibo Dan maybe kuriboh
Invitation2Hades TRLH theres always been tributes roflmao did u ever play?
Zealous oNe not in the first season of the anime
As long as I have the heart of the cards...I WILL NEVER LOSE.
Is that like the eastern name for RNGesus?
Mateo I once said that ,you know what happened I lost cause the card I drew was a tribute monster xD
Ethan Yang Did you think about the exact card you needed hard enough while ancient egyptian music played in the background?
FTK counters heart of the cards. You literally can't draw a card. xD
:3 you heart of the cards into maxx c & ghost ogre in the first 5 draws
when I was a kid nobody knew about tributes or deck limits lol I had one kid say that remove trap can kill my monster because it was a bear trap lol
Same
Lol I had friends like that back in school. This was back in Ecuador and we didn't really speak much English so sometimes we just kinda went by what the card LOOKED like. "Bear trap? well that clearly must kill a monster."
Tyesupersam94 lol! My old friend Owen was worse, he made up the rules and uses a 63 card main deck! He probably thinks pot of greed lets you draw 6 cards from your deck, then special summon a monster to your side of the field! XD
Tyesupersam94
to be fair, that was the kind if ligic featured in the show.
there used to be no deck lmit so 63 would of been fine untill more recently like 4-5 years ago
and this is why the returning players mostly play duel links now
Ivan Milas Best update to game ... remove 15 years of content ...
Am i right ?
Lol!
RedVelvet Rave I much prefer it to all this pendulum, xyz and synchro crap
Exactly
@@abs3nt560 Wouldn't be surprised if all that would be added soon though
I only play duel links now
The only thing that's going to fuck up returning players are synchros, XYZs and Pendulums
"I sac these 2 monsters to special summon a monster that has nothing to do with my decks theme and has some bullshit effect that's going to wipe your field effortlessly"
That's it... they should make way more Xyz, that have something to do with decks...
I guess I was lucky then because I quit mid-way through Synchros. XYZs were easy to figure out but Pendulums did take me a bit
Comically, I'm currently working on a D/D/D deck, but not using the Pendulums the way the game is demanding me to play them.
MrZurata black rose dragon?
Yep.... It fucks me off to no end!!!
Last I played, XYZ summoning was starting. I picked up on the new stuff fairly quickly. I know, I know. Special snowflake comment but it's unfortunate so many people are like this that it became a stereotype.
I love it's called The Yu-Gi-Oh Trading Card game, yet hardly anyone trades anymore
The game is too strict for casual trading now. The old prints are pretty much junk now and get more worthless with age. Now that everything is archetype based people are even more picky and nothing outside them or the very rare cards for that archetype are worth anything.
***** Exactly, Konami should just remove the entire "Trading Card Game" from the title. It should just be Yu-Gi-Oh!, because hardly anyone trades anymore. Instead, it's more like, "Oh hey Jimmy can I get some Blackwing cards?"
"Sure Billy you can get some of my Blackwing cards. They're 5 cents each"
Billy Hands Jimmy $2, and Jimmy hands Billy 30 useless cards that 5 years old.
"Pleasure Doing business with you Jimmy"
Well it's also known as the official card game...
Avery Games just call it duel monsters than
i still trade but people don't want crap because i'm always trading sucky commons like noisy knat or some dumb crap
long time yugioh player. my advice for everyone. enjoy yugioh. find your deck for you.
I just got into this game, and the more I learn about the game's history, the more I feel like I got beaned. Should I keep going?
gravethebeyond #FireFistForLife
Lord of the Glass Cube what do you mean by “beaned”?
Ancient Gears then!
..and then realize that what you enjoy will never ever be viable competitively.
Seriously, like 90% of players will never even enter regionals. Don't have a stroke upon learning that your deck will not achieve worl champion status.
You can still play it most of the time. I really like to!
Just don't expect achieving titles.
Enjoynment is only a factor when you play with your friends or local card shop guys.
When you go competitive, you just play the meta. If you want it or not. Your rogue deck won't suddenly counter the guy that shuts you down in 2 turns or even less.
How good a card is, is not based on just a it's attack points
+I'm Paul That's a great one we should have mentioned!
+I'm Paul Or not by how many 'stars' it has.
+I'm Paul That's pretty deep m8
Frog the jam hate
+I'm Paul But it's a different story when an archetype excludes certain cards. :P
For me, i got back into the game with Legacy Of The Duelist on xbox one. it literally teaches you everything about every new mechanic in the game, includes a ban list to let you know that's a thing, and does it in a painless manner.
It's really a highly underrated game! We actually did a Let's Play of it, too!
I just learned that you can't draw on first turn and fields no longer destroy other fields.
Team APS I know it maybe seems odd but can you make a video YGO VS MTG even if u were a YGO player,and tell us why u prefer YGO, and if u tried MTG before or not !? cuz I Love YGO but people keep saying MTG is better,and I need to know the truth.
I wish they add the Magician Girl archetype in Legacy of the Duelist. That's literally the only reason I came back to Yu-Gi-Oh! xD
Adonim Rana MTG is boring TBH. Also the cards are bland as hell and look like depressing old PC WRPG shit. Also, literally zero waifus.
this list basically boils down to "the game is no longer fun, you cant play with a deck you like unless its from the meta list." because "pro players" ruin everything.
It wasn't any different in competitive yugioh back in the day. Even in "old school" yugioh you would have a hard time playing competitively if you weren't playing something meta. Doesn't change the fact that you can still play whatever you want casually with friends.
The difference is that Don Zaloog and Sakuretsu were replaced by Effect Veiler and the 57 new Mirrors. (Or whatever the big shots call meta these days)
shunkaha yep
Playing casually gets annoying though when your friends don't want to play in a consistent format. I hate having to at least try to play loose tournament style for practice and the nostalgia scrubs don't want to even try to follow the most flexible of the new rules. People who fell out from the old days that just want to play school yard style and cheat when it doubt. Those people.
but its supposed to be casual, i feel like people have forgotten that this is a card game a childrens card game
this is kind of putting down some old returning players. A lot of this would affect 'scrub' players. Not having sleeves on your cards for example. And not following the rules. it makes it sound like all people who played back in the day didn't care for their cards much and didn't know how to play and knew after 5ds or they quit because of that.
Other than that, it is hard to get back. As someone who stopped playing before 5ds, the mechanics and speed are both daunting and scary. It is the reason I still haven't come back. Buying cards, I can get around because I can use duel simulators but the problem is I don't know 90 percent of the the new cards. I am still interested in the game and want to keep up with it but as a spectator not unlike a sports fan following the game.
+Blank xx000 not all new players hate old players yes were in a new Era of the game its called change. While I enjoy team APS opinions some times they can be wrong . Rouge decks can compete with the meta . Older players have to learn to move on
I agree with you to some extend. If you want to learn about the new mechanics of yugioh go to the wikia or look it up
I respect what you have to say . I actually have giskies they fun to play with. People have to respect the older players because they apart of the reason we still have the game . I hope I don't get roasted for saying this idk I'm I'm consider a old or new player I played during the original era but got serious about the game during the 5ds Era ( favorite season Yusei # 1 . When I was junior 2 years ago my friend showed and proved that older cards can make a difference . I was shocked he got out Relinquished ( I was screwed I had no way to beat it )
But new players feel the older decks can't keep up with the newer ones . The game has gone from slow to fast
+Blank xx000 I think most people can agree yuya is better than yuma. Arc V is getting better
I'm glad you brought up the point of card "worth." I have quite a few cards that may be worthless to someone else but I have memories attached to them and in the end, that's what matters to me.
Guys, guys.
There IS a deck that lets you ignore all the new summoning mechanics... Domain Monarchs...
Screw tht😂😂😂
MarklenIngyer Gishki? Gem-Knight?
MarklenIngyer xD
fucking monarchs..
yosenju kaiju
Two of those dudes look exactly the same, lol. Are they identical twins?
Yes, actually!
Oh cool! :D
Muikkunen 2k17 I was so confused too lmao
They were once one, then they were hit with a de-fussion.
Adorious Gravy 11/10 comment, well done sir.
That speed thing totally puts me off from returning. I think I'll just keep collecting. My LOB 1st edition set was ridiculously hard to compile but I finally did it after having sold my house, wife and half of my children. Now it's time for MRD.
... hold on... you sold your house for a set?
As much as it strings me these are all true but that doesn't take away the feeling that yugioh has ruined its self and reading the disheartened comments doesn't help
+RaF KiNs This video was meant to be slightly sarcastic. Yu-Gi-Oh is still a lot of fun!
***** its cool man , i realy enjoyed the video
This is going to be hard to accept for a lot of school-yard elitists I know. The ones that like to double draw and call time outs when they get caught. etc. The ones that like to read the card effects right before they activate something in response, or people that like to MST on MST. Oh boy...
You guys don't make the game seem very fun...
Well nowadays its really based on your idea of fun. Yugioh has become extremely competitive and if you wanna stand a solid chance in a competitive match you have to play the top tier $600 deck that's dominating everything else. If that's what you find fun then go for it, but if you want something thats not as intimidating and strategic but calm Yugioh may not be for you.
not really any well built deck can win it's that cancerous thinking that kills alot of competitive games
I only play with friends. tournament style duels are annoying and dull.
DrK just play without pendulums and don't fight people with pendulums and you're good
Pendulums were barely ever meta relevant kappa.At least not as much as other summoning mechanics.
Im not sure I can emotionally accept the words "your insect deck is'nt going to beat good players". Heart of the Cards man. :)
I think its heartbreaking that the new cards don't smell quite like the old ones
+kanyewest315 True! I noticed 2 weeks ago when i bought my first pack in like 5 years. It's all chemical now.
+kanyewest315 True. Old cards had that juicy card smell to them, newer ones just smell like chemicals
+Dank Sloth
Wtf do you think new card smell is?!
+kanyewest315 hory shit the sexy asian boi damn sun
+kanyewest315 YES IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
your attitude towards returning players discourages players from returning
ACC7386 Dont worry, the real scrubs r the people still spending real money on paper cards lol.
+Kyon-J Lmaoo 😂😂😂 These dudes need to man the fuck up and stop playing the kid shit !
Yeah because Official World Championship and tournaments like that don't exist right?And you ashaming people for investing money to their hobby?
Dude screw those guys. Im an old school casual player and im proud of it i refuse to play with pendulums or any other new mechanic. Everyone i know switched to magic the gathering because the game of yugioh became just no fun anymore and for the people who still play yugioh, they all use old school cards/combo decks. Just total bullshit.
Good. Most will just complain and bitch about it anyway. If they return and give it a chance, good for them. But most complain about it way in advance. I stuck with it through out it all, i've seen change, i complain when it's necessary. Some of these old heads don't.
Played super scrubby in the beginning, stopped around the beginning of the GX era. Met some guys in college who reintroduced me back into the game around when synchros were new-ish and Lightsworn were the big thing. I got my first taste of competitive Yugioh, and tried to cobble together a workable deck from the old trash cards I had. Stopped after about a month because those friends lost interest.
Later on, right after XYZs were made, I actually got into competitive yoogs, made a competitive deck and dedicated myself to getting good. Topped some locals here and there. After graduating, I quit again because the only people I plays with were still in school. (Pendulums had just come out).
Just a month ago I got sucked back into the game again.
I've had multiple instances of being reintroduced to "new" Yugioh, and every single time is a "wtf" experience.
fields don't replace fields, you don't draw on the very first turn, fucking pendulums..
Comet Pendulums are really easy to beat even pre link you fucking scrub
Performapal Monkeyboard Then why are you still banned?
you forgot to mention that god cards don't have unspoken bs effects
The ones without their effects written aren't tournament legal.You can still play the versions that have their effects written on the card.
The rules I made up for the Egyptian God cards when I was a kid:
Slifer gets ATK and DEF points equal to the number of cards currently in your hand while you are summoning him x1000 and when he is summoned, he can attack as many times as you want for that turn when he is summoned. This was supposed to be the reason why "the heavens twist and the the thunder roars" when he came out.
Ra gains ATK and DEF points equal to the number of dragons or dragon-type monsters you have on your side of the field x1000 because "he was the ruler of dragons" (because he was a dragon that looked super cool, so why not?). Also, he could target any or all spells or traps your opponent had on their side of the field and destroy them as well as completely negating any and all of their effects, because he was imbued with immense magical power which was why "spirits sang of him" and he "ruled over all that is mystic."
Obelisk gets ATK and DEF points equal to the number of monsters in your hand that you sacrificed to the graveyard x1000 added to his 4000 ATK and DEF points. You could just "regular" summon (normal summon) him, but you would just get his regular 4000 ATK and DEF. You had to be willing to "make sacrifices" to "honor him" if you wanted him to grant you access to this effect and use his full might after calling upon him. While he was on the field, your life points would be immune to damage from monster attacks or effect monster effects and you could only take damage if your opponent activated a spell or trap card that inflicted life point damage. (Because of how strong and buff he looked on the card, he was the "ultimate defender" and therefore could block any and all attacks from enemy monsters of any type or strength level.)
Also, I played where the gods were completely immune to any and all card effects, whether they were effect monster effects, spell effects, or trap effects, not just while they were being summoned, but during the entire time they were out on the field. Also, they were immune to being destroyed by battle, even if another monster gained higher ATK points than them; they just wouldn't be able to destroy that monster either and a battle between them would be stalemate (neither monster would die). (My logic at the time = they're gods, so they should be immortal and therefore un-killable). And I also had this rule where if someone managed to summon all three gods and have them out on their side of the field at the same time, they automatically win, like having the five pieces of Exodia, because they were so mighty that "their combined presence was completely overwhelming" (like exiting a dark movie theater and then stepping out into a bright noonday sun).
Walked away from MTG for years, didn't change much.
Walked away from yugioh in elementary school, basically a new game now.
I returned to the game about 2-3 years ago because my baby sister discovered my harpie lady deck and she wanted to learn how to play the card game. Yugioh helped us bond. She now runs a harpie deck of her own as well as Ghostricks and Vampires.
vulture216 that's really nice
Here's a hard truth for modern players, the game is now SHIT. Back in the day, you had to think on your feet, you didn't have like 3 or 4 decks that everybody used so you never knew what you were getting into so you didn't always have a response and had to work around it. The game was also fun, not just the duels, the building part. You didn't have everyone using the same decks, you had creativity and people using cards just because they liked them. The game may have been slower but that was great, what's the point in spending hundreds on cards when you only use them for like 2 minutes per duel? I had duels that lasted like half an hour minimum and It was fun as every turn was different, control of the duel shifted. I respect that things change and move forward but this game went from being fun, creative and mentally stimulating to boring 2 minute duels using scripted moves that are used over and over with like 3 decks that everyone has. If you enjoy the game now, fantastic! But I just can't anymore.
So true
Shockwave Entertainment So what you're saying is that the meta didn't exist? Fuck off. People will always use the best cards and strategies available to them at the time if they want to win. People today still play decks that they find fun that aren't overly strong.
Meta was always a thing. Even in goat format. It was beatdown. Beatdown control, chaos control. There was always a meta. Not sure what you are talking about.
Your opinion is quite validated, in fact I’m on your side on a few points. Although this video was more aimed towards the competitive scene. Like I play Magi the Gathering right. I have my $1800 artifact modern deck for competitive and I have my $20-$25 burn deck for messing around and having fun with the game. Like you can still play yugioh anyways you like man. And unfortunately most games including video games only look at the competitive side of the game and they forget about what made the game fun in the first place, as you mentioned. Basically what I’m saying is every games has two sides to it. The competitive side and the let’s have fun and try and win but we’re gona do it my way side (casual) I kind of hate the word casual idk why. But ya just my thoughts.
Shockwave Entertainment I love you.
Me in 2014 playing Yu-Gi-Oh
60 card worthless deck random cards I liked
No archetype!
Big boss monster was an Arcana Force Card.
Now,
40-45 card deck
Archetype, example Masked HERO's
Cards actually fit within the deck!
I think I've improved 😀
Friday Night Wolf dude imagine what it's like for me when I played it in kindergarden/school im early 00s. This is a huge let down for me
Hardest truth for me is learning the effects of all the new cards. I miss the days where I could see the picture and know instantly what it did.
Slowly but surely I'll get there again.
@@Mcormic idk why, but somehow, for some reason I very much resonate with this comment. Did I really play that much Yu-Gi-Oh in my younger dayz? Idk. I miss some of the cards I used to own but it is what it is. That's kinda the thrill of the ride too, is building up a stock again.
Fuck archetypes! Yugioh used to be so much more fun when combo decks where around. The game has evolved in a way that feels like another game all together. It doesn't feel like Yugioh anymore. Specially since pendulums. Even synchros and XYZ weren't that bad. I remember having a great combo deck right before synchros came around. But when they came out they actually make my deck even stronger. It was a good mechanic. Then i quit the game cause archetypes became so fucking broken it was basically all you had to play if you wanted to win. And that's just boring as fuck
Rusty Bits honestly, I want a tournament league, where pendulum and XYZ cards are banned.... is that a thing?
Rusty Bits ok, I mostly just hate pendulum... and yeah, archetypes can go to hell.
I admit that archetypes really made duels predictable now and 70% of the singles cards worthless.
I quit in 2006 because Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning was broken and literally made me lose games when I was winning. I came back now because Magician Girl archetype was released xD
You can't compare BLS with the broken bullshit we have now haha
Tbh as an old player I like this new stuff when I got back into it, LOVE Archtypes. Mainly 'cause now my deck has a real "theme" outside being fairies/dragons/zombies etc etc etc.
I thought the same. came back and really tried to learn during fire fist/spellbook/dragonruler format and it was really cool
I know right?
When I played and collected there was no way you could play a themed deck. It had to be some kind of control deck.
Jinzo/ Cyberdragon were the biggest monsters, etc
+Grant That was the worst format in terms if certain decks, the ones you listed, being too op. Regardless, if you enjoyed it then thats cool.
By the way ygo usually is only expensive when you want to have rare cards. nobody cares about commons.
I have always been a returning player (I started back when I was a kid, then left, came back, left, came back, then left, and now I came back again) and I have been playing quite a bit to the ps2 and GBA YuGiOh games, and I can´t help but feel that even there were super broken cards back then, the game was more fun, and in some way, more balanced back then. Because I feel that the "I reveal my face down card" that was going on with the older generations was kind of cooler than whats going on today. And i can say that because I have been playing a basic Fire deck and a Zombie deck, both of them with some changes, and it´s super fun when I battle decks of the same era (even if they have the broken cards that are now banished or limited) but when I try to fight a more modern deck I get destroyed, and that, you "new" players like it or not, is having an unbalanced game. The fun of a trading game with dozens of thousands of cards is to be able to take cards from here and there and create a deck that has a very good synergy and is able to do its thing consistently. But as it is right now it seems that the game just leaves behind the old stuff not because it´s not cool, but because Konami bans the old cards that were good just to make people buy more new cards that can kind of replace the old ones. I dunno, at least that´s my point of view. I don´t mind tho, since I can play the old games with the old banlist and the good cards. I just don´t see the fun in being competitive to the point of playing just things that win. Cheers!
Artec619 Lots of cards are on the list for sales and other dumb shit
But the majority are there to avoid a coin toss format as
Who can otk each other first would depend on a dice roll
Dark Duel Stories in the Game Boy Color would limit the options to lower power cards if the cards put in the deck were too powerful. The game would be more balanced if it were like that for the TCG
All well and good, but there's one big elephant in the room, regarding this list. And that is that you can rectify almost every point on this list, and still be no better at the game. And it all boils down to this.
You need to build a better deck? How? What is defined as better? You've just been overwhelmed by thousands upon thousands of cards that you've never even heard of, and you're expected to rummage around in that heap blindly and find the cards that will make you that better deck? Because that what it feels like for a returning player. That overwhelming variety of cards is the most intimidating thing about, and it's knowledge of those cards that defines the good players from the bad.
Among the yugioh community I've seen hierachies formed around that very aspect, as well as money. And as a returning player you're stuck at the bottom of that heap, with nobody to help you make your way up.
What really should be said to the players is this. If you want to return to the game, find somebody who's willing to show you the synergies, the archetypes, the playstyles, the particular good cards, and their more situational varients. Test them out and give a feel for their play, without the pressure to buy the cards, at least until they truly know which cards are worth buying. Perhaps then one can start to build a 'better' deck.
Eh, just saying the game is a bunch of archetypes should suffice.
And exactly what does one get from that?
That you can look up "Meta Yu-Gi-Oh Archetype" and easily find deck lists to make meta decks. At that point you just buy and read your fucking cards. It's true that there are ALOT of cards, but figuring out which ones are useful/viable is a simple google search away.
10 years ago when I started, I had an amazing Blue-Eyes deck that beat everyone. I got back into it, watched this video, and helped me up that ante so now I have a turn 1 Blue-Eyes Twin Burst Dragon. Thanks guys!
I got back into Yu-Gi-Oh in September. Luckily I had played some of the DS games and I understood how card rulings and such work. It was quite the climb, but I'm almost not a scrub anymore. All I really need is a physical deck to play and I'll be set. What I would suggest to anybody getting back into the game is to not be afraid of net-decking. Sure you should definitely make your own decks, but it helps a LOT if you learn how modern competitive decks work before you try to make your own
The way I see it, netdecking is more a way to learn trends and patterns in decks. You can take a few decks and see some similar or identical cards (Mostly techs and staples) that help make your decks more competitive. However, the best way to make a deck is from first-hand plays and such. Find out your own weaknesses and cover them.
However, netdecking whichever deck wins doesn't make you learn, to be honest. For example, that new stall deck; I cannot play DN ranked anymore because all I face are boring stall, exodia or Kozmos (I have not actually seen any of the other "meta" decks yet (This is coming from someone who had over 700 rating at one point). Nobody likes the guy who netdecks the winning deck, just like nobody likes the guy who steals someone elses art.
TL:DR; Netdecking is fine for new players to learn the basic structure of a deck, but not acceptable if you're just copying whatever deck just won because you think you'll win automatically.
It's like those people who netdecked PePe not terribly long ago despite the fact they had no idea how pendulums worked
Plus, the guy who won with X deck is considerably better than whoever netdecked them, you don't become pro by netdecking.
I tried to get a friend back into yugioh... He plays magic the gathering now...
my friends are like that too
So he has taste.
+flangwang It's to late for them. Now they will never escape.
+T.F. F (The Flying Fedora) I know it's sad...
No you can escape magic I did more because the cost of it prevented me from carrying on but you can escape.
No monster reborn, no pot of greed, no harpies feather duster, no sangan, no graceful charity, no premature burial but worst of all....no change of heart? literal corner stones of the first ever starter decks when i was a kid back in 01-03...just a shame. Plus everybody having basically the same decks now or a limited pool of decks takes away the fun of building your ragtag deck and pitting it against others. That's what made yugioh fun when i was kid, the spectrum of possible combinations you faced when you played against others
Now you can play up to 3 Sangan!Let's be real here all of the cards that you mentioned besides Sangan are broken.And yeah playing against meta decks can be boring but It's not always meta decks.They are some non-meta or anti-meta decks that are fun.
Any TCG costs money, because there's the "Meta" to keep up with, and Standard for Magic and Pokémon.
I'm the old friend trying to get back in yugioh.😭
M-Square Parkour same though I'm still trying to get my head around xyz and pendulum
I love playing elemental heroes. Link summoning isn’t to bad tho
First of all Team APS I respect your opinions there are some people who in high school play with the banned list . From my freshman to senior year I got friends back into the game , And I have them watch your videos because of the passion that you have for the game
+Dewayne Johnson Thanks!
+Team APS something you should note from your decks that you hate playing against. there's chain burn that can and will top if someone builds it right. because my chain burn still shits on every meta deck out there rn. unless there's 1 that can burn me for over 10k life points without attacking me?
i had a very hard time getting back, like wat da fuuu is a xyz monster, and how do i use one?
Sergio Sanchez It's a monster with a black frame and stored in the extra deck
And depending on its "rank" (the little stars it has)
It needs two monsters with the same level
an example would be the XYZ monster ,Number 39: Utopia
It's a rank 4 so it needs 2 level 4 monsters
Simple right?
*XYZ-Dragon Cannon*
"X-Head Cannon" + "Y-Dragon Head" + "Z-Metal Tank"
Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by banishing the above cards you control. (You do not use "Polymerization".) Cannot be Special Summoned from the GY. You can discard 1 card, then target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy that target.
I know I am late to the party, but I too agree with a lot of the comments about the tone of this video. I read your disclaimer about the jokes and not taking things seriously but the video still felt condescending and honestly made me feel like I didn't belong. I am 22 and it has been at least 10 years since I played and/or collected and I just started getting back into the game. I am doing my best to relearn and enjoy this game again, but when you shit on my paper mat or my lack of supplies because I just started up again, makes you sound snobby, entitled, and pretentious. For a kid watching this, or anyone watching this, coming back into the game, this video could easily bully someone into not coming back. Being 22, I already feel super insecure about playing this game again around my peers, so watching a video portraying the community beating me down as well doesn't stand up to my standards for your videos. I watch and love your videos, mostly because they help me, teach me. make me laugh, enjoy the game, and make me feel welcomed into the community of YUGIOH and TCG. This video sadly does the complete opposite for me. I am probably being way oversensitive, but perception is reality, and I believe a lot of other viewers feel the same. Thank you for your time, and remember I am not hating, just an opinion, because I really do love your videos.
I recently got back to the game and it was bc of you guys of the team APS that I did. I wanted to play again but I wasn't sure so I searched for some videos on the new rulings and stuff an I found your channel. Your content and the way you enjoy the game made me want to play again. Thank you, guys
I’ve been collecting on and off for about 20 years, I was a kid in 2002, but I loved this game and have thousands of cards from the original all the way through Synchro. I started to lose interest when synchros came in, and fell back to OG decks, playing high atk 4* because it’s more fun for me. I’m just getting back into collecting again, and I have no idea what’s going on with XYZ and the newer decks. I play link evolution online with my 2004 ish setup and my opponents turns last 10 mins, summoning xyz and detaching for effects. Is there a video you have that simply breaks down how those work? I feel like I have absolutely no shot against them. It feels like it’s just a lot of memorization, and chaining setups instead of basic strategy and it’s really throwing me through a loop. Any help or recommendations on a basic xyz deck / or if you have any videos covering this at all, I would appreciate it a lot. I still spend a lot of money ordering cards, but mostly 1st edition holo original cards, alternate arts, promotional/cc4 but I would love to break into the new generation of dueling. Just don’t know how to start
I understand how all the old fusion decks /ritual decks, and most synchros work with summoning, but stuff after that seems really hard I guess is what I’m saying
I have one question: What exactly makes 'modern' Yu-Gi-Oh appealing?
It sounds awful to me.
well, i'm 2 years late to answer, but, the appel of the modern game is that is pretty fun to make the combos and pull out 5 extra deck monsters in a single turn, or in case you have a control deck, negate this massive extra summoning. every deck falls into the 3 categories of agro, midrange or control, but each archtype is unique and has their own mechanics and it's just fun seeing your deck doing the function it's supposed to. now i need to say old yugioh just felt way better, it was a lot simpler and much more friendly to new players. but hey, yugioh is the power creep game, and is suppose to grow stronger and more complex with every new set. if you prefer simpler games, try magic the gathering, it hasnt changed much since it's original release since it relies on mana and the few new mechanics are easy to get.
additionaly, magic doens't end in 2 turns, so you have quite the time to adjust and responde to the oponent's move.
I got my first yu gi oh structure deck a few years ago and my little brother wanted to split it. So I gave him the light cards and I got the dark cards.
One day he came up to me and showed me a ruined lightpulsar and blue eyes white dragon that he left in the washing machine.....ffs
You always get that one guy who's playing Mystical Elf face down xD
Respect!
2000 DEF mang!
+Mad Mothz Or mirror force. And that card is in my main deck but now i just put my main deck in my memories box. Now i just play yugioh games and starting to collect yugoh cards again that's it. And me and my friends just play the old rules of yugioh cause we still have all our old decks.
+Mad Mothz sorry not sorry i used to have 3 mystical elf in the kiddie days XD
I say the most OP card is Man eater bug. That's so OP.
I'm a returning player to Yu-Gi-Oh after like 8 years (I'm currently 18), and from being a childhood fan. I played when I was in elementary school, and I've been trying to get back into it, and explore/research all the new changes, so I can work myself up into the tournament styled ranks. I love your guy's videos, their funny AND helpful, and I just really appreciate all of the content you put into your guy's videos! Thank You 🙌
Something EVERY new and returning player needs to know:
Those of us who have been in the game from the beginning and are STILL playing are gonna whip your ass with combo decks, archetype decks, ban lists, no ban lists... or whatever format. PERIOD!
At least one thing hasn't changed.... DRAW!! MONSTA CARDO!
Ashberryvillage10 you’re right. That’s the same whether you win, lose or draw, MONSTA CARDO!
YAMETE YUGGGGIIII!
these guys remind me of the teen age mutant ninja turtles XD, all they need is a 4th member
Puddin yumm they have 1 I think with dreads
Lol
Lmao
Played a kid one time and I almost had him until he dropped change of heart...wanted to call a judge but he was only a kid!
should've called the judge
+Jason Bruno he was just a kid and didn't know though! I ended up winning though.
Vman87 oh...then its fine
+Vman87 Doesn't matter, you can't go to an event then bring banned cards.
+Rom Kin it was at a local tournament. It was at super games if you're familiar with that place.
For a guy thats coming back into the game after 12 years since his last duel I found this real and straight to the point! Honestly I'm very happy link summoning is going on because I feel like it's easier to process then syncro summoning which I have no idea how to do 😂 or even XYZ summoning. You weren't kidding when you said this game is expensive, I'm building a golden castle of Stromberg deck that is different then what's out but is gonna cost me around $650 and that includes a ln extra deck. And since my last cards weren't worth much, the cards I bought now are heavy hitters in the game and value. Thank you for this video and would love to see more videos educating us dinosaurs (I'm only 27 tho) on new arcatypes or anything that would be useful to help lookout for including dangerous decks.
I feel like the way the game is going now. it's off putting to younger audiences you have to have an archetype that can cost 100 dollars for a deck than they have to buy all the accessories like a playmat and deck box and sleeves. Than a game ends in 1 turn maybe two and you need to be familiar with every cards rulings. there is so much to learn and the younger audiences can't get in the game because of this.
I love how the first thing out of their mouths are talking shit to the old school players and assuming we didn't know anything we was doing... boys please, 2 mins into this video and not even gonna watch anymore.
well they ARE right. The vast majority of "returning players" are people who played when they were 10 with their friends.
Cross Dement Playing with friends doesn't really matter though lol they're assuming the old players didn't know how to read basic rules. the first 2 mins of the video was literally talking shit about us. I myself and many other people I knew back then actually knew the rules and topped several tournaments. I myself even went to tournaments on behalf of TrollnToad here in Kentucky. So you'd be surprised. but the same can be said for players these days. There are players out there that are new players and don't know half the shit they're doing when it comes to the game. Trying to be helpful to returning players is one thing, talking shit and acting like they're all a bunch of idiots is another.
DjShadows Gaming well we are sorry the guys didn't focus on YOUR personal situation and instead focused on what the majority is like. Honestly I'm with them on this.
Cross Dement Lol I focused on the simple fact that the opening two mins was nothing but shit talking so... don't be sorry my opinion stands as simply that my opinion and even if you agree with them or not you know I'm right in saying that all they did was shit talk for two mins straight but, but its whatever lol
It's not that they're arrogant, it's just so common hearing these things that it gets old. People ask their friends that play to get back in the game, expect to win with 10 year old cards, then get really mad and stubborn when they see the game has progressed. I understand if someone just wants nostalgia, but these are people assuming theyll be competitive. it just gets old, and i just got into the game last year after playing when the game first came out.
So basically everything is so OP that my illegal deck form back in the day with 2 chaos emperor dragons would be basically balanced?
Actually, chances are your illegal deck still wouldn't be up to par if it doesn't have the new meta nonsense added in too.
Brorelia ye your old deck would get destroyed
You would get your Chaos empeorer dragon with an oldschool deck at best at your 3rd turn. You would be lucky if you had survived till then with your old monster and spll/traps
lol ya ok
I love how you just assume everybody who played yugioh in grade school was just a scrub.
any returning player from the first few years of yugioh: "synchro what? XYZ bullshit! pendulum?! "*FLIPS TABLE*
Need to say it, monster reborn isn't banned anymore it's limited, and in my pen magicians, had to take out the ftk though, I foresee it banned in april
I like the old school yugioh
I'm coming back after 2 years the community seems worse and all the new cards are overwhelmingly insert many words. But I remember coming back before xyz and pendulum it seemed easier but now I'm not sure where to begin
Not all returning players are scrubs. I'd think this video is geared towards giving up to date players a laugh than to actually help the older players. The first few minutes would of had someone actually looking for help to click off.
When I was a returning player (left during the latter half of GX, returned during the beginning of Zexal), I played my own variant of a Des Frog OTK. The first thing I did was correct an actual scrub on timing and OTK'd his Rank4 Utopia Deck.
+Mistah Pokey Honestly, I think we forgot our chill when we recorded this. Sorry guys!
This video was probably something I needed back in my freshman year high school when I was first getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh. I was lucky enough that after I graduated one of my old friends managed to get me fully back in the game and explained everything I needed to know and also showed me the ban list. There's probably a lot I need to learn, mostly in terms of deck building, but I'm glad there's more people out there willing to tell new and returning players about the changes over the years.
This really helped me really get back into the scene and you guys broke it down for me nicely as opposed to just rushing into my locals without learning about the game
y'all do know we had boxes, sleeves, dice, a ban list, we spent money, we had archetypes and even some playmats back in the day right? I took 10 years or more off, built a variation of a deck I ran in 04 and still topped against everything. y'all have a lot to learn about us vets
Wish I could turn back time, to the good 'ol days...
*Looks back longingly back at the Yu-Gi-Oh meta before XYZ, Pendelum and Link*
I remember when you had to actually outthink your opponent’s and stay three moves ahead now it’s just I hope my opening hand can do a OTK
So I'm one of the many returning players who got linked to this recently. As a kid I did go to locals and so I'm happy that some of the things I learned there carried over (sleeves, paying for cards, stuff like MST), but even still. This stuff is overwhelming. Thanks for putting the video together. This definitely puts things in perspective and makes me think about whether or not I really want to get back into the game after all. Not because of the new stuff to learn, but other things. I dunno. It's stuff to think about. Thanks again.
Literally everything you guys said was and somewhat still is exactly me with yugioh today and in the past. It's kinda hilarious actually how hard it is to accept all these new changes. I have a life example that resonates for everything you mentioned. That one MST comment was the highlight. Great apt analysis guys. Thanks so much, I can't wait to show friends who are just starting out
when you pull a Kaiba and summon 3 blue eyes white dragon on first turn 😂
it's all about those Soul charges!!
The Night Stalker isn't that limited to one?
Shotsof762 in the tcg but I don't think it is in the ocg and we were talking about the anime and as Kaiba says "screw the rules I have money"
The Night Stalker Ya pretty much lol.
Is that still viable? Lol that seem pretty strong. Hope still that means something lol
YGO has gotten too easy tbh. Every card now-a-days has a crutch and I don't want to hear, well all you need to do is side this, NO! I don't want to hear that bullshit! Kozmo's can't be targeted, when the majority of cards in the game have target effects, and every time you get rid of one they have an effect to drawback on. Majespecters can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects and you get a search every time you summon one. Burning Abyss when they are sent to the graveyard, you get to use "so and so's" effect, with no limit on the amount of times you can use the effect. It's just more and more BS added every set and plz, don't even get me started on the banlist. If they aren't going to start hitting cards when they need to be hit, what is the point of even having one?
"Yugioh has gotten too easy tbh." In the older days game was a lot simpler and easier.(I still like the current speed of the game.)
very elitest video turning people off yugioh
Yugioh turns people off it's self lol
"Elitist" I think this is helpful. If someone couldnt handle these simple truths then they probably wont bother learning how the cards work and wont get far if they come back to the game.
its not something for returning players. they considering like people who never really played not even in a local tourney or anything.
Hey, what deck would you recommend I should try to build after just getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh! After having only played the game a few times about 8 years ago? I'd also like to make a deck basen on the Red-Eyes Cards, just because Red-Eyes was always my favorite card as a kid. What do you recommend I should try?
A little late, but Blue-Eyes and Dark Magician are good to get back into, they aren't too complicated, and don't rely too much on the Extra Deck. I would recommend your red-eyes after making one of those.
Thanks for the video. I'm definitely a returning player, so much has changed since I played in middle school. Some friends and I plan to get back into the game casually, there's not many players around my local area though. You did earn a new subscriber.
"scrub school, scrub friends, scrub decks" Congrats on exhibiting the exact behavior that made me quit this game competitively. Punk antics like this made loosing AND winning not fun. If I won, I was a scrub for using expensive "meta" cards. If I lost I was a "scrub" for using a deck that wasn't filled with expensive cards. Nice to know this game's player base hasn't grown up one bit. >_
Shut up, nobody cares
I played synchros, and xyzs but those pedulums have fucked it up now
True
1. mac tbh pendulums arent that hard to deal with. Sure they can be a pain but there are many many cards that counter them that are used in most decks today such as solemn strike and twin twister
Evann Cochran arent pendulums considered spell cards too? Secret Village of the Spellcasters then
You just accurately described a bunch of my friends
my friends that play magic hate the change of yugioh from the anime to card game
+Azariath01 We all have those friends, and more than a few of us have been those said.
+LeCoolFace OK
sorry not trying to be didn't realize I had it all incaps
actaully it was a game even before that the comic wasn't going to well intill they "found" an idea for a game that was already in the works
What you think about solemn judgement and barrel behind the door combo? Even solemn judgement alone was one my favorite cards back in 2006
I couldn't find any card rulings on the combo so not sure if it's possible or not
i started playing legacy of the duelist on xbox and i've learned all the basics besides pendulum, but how do i keep up to speed because i watch so many videos but i have no idea what they're talking about lol
Dare To Zlatan google YGOPro and download it from their discord, it's the best way to play the game with up to date rulings...on the pic version at least :p , I just started getting back into it myself and I relearned everything through that :) .....well a lot not everything yet sadly lol
Dare To Zlatan well its all part of having card knowledge! What you can do is actually keep up with the meta and actually trying new cards/decks so you know how they run for yourself! Also watch yugitubers who have daily card news so you can know ahead of new potential meta decks! I recommend Azyneyeswhitedragon aka Slaydra. He does daily news the first second a new card is leaked!
Why would anyone return?
When I returned to yugioh there were pendulums and they are so annoying they are like spell and monster cards
BeAtzz_ thats exactly what they are
I've been playing since 2002 and all I'm gonna say is fuck pendulums. It's a cancer to the series. People thought things like Shockmaster were OP? Nope!
NightcoreCentral ehhhh pendulums are actually not that hard to deal with. There are many many cards that people use in most decks that lock down pendulums such as solemn strike and twin twister. Also banishing is a huge huge weakness of pendulums!
pendulums are a great addition to the game actually, they're pretty easy to counter and they make a lot of previously unplayable decks viable.
I was attacked when you said “water deck” haha. I haven’t played any yugioh since GX so I’m very behind. I knew the game changed with Synchros, Tuners, ext but I never adapted or took interest in it. Recently went to a card store with my friend since we’ve been getting into old yugioh again and got some new cards from my other friend. We walked in and immediately felt outcasted and noticed how far behind we are. Don’t think I’ll pick up yugioh after that day.
Your reference has been Grade school.
That is sufficiently wrong. That was like 20 years ago for me.
You just mainly reference decks that were made in like 2000.
That's not a realistic look at the game.
Opposed to that, take a look at the last 10 years.
Cards did not change how they work.
The whole GAME changed how it works.
Multiple mechanic changes have been introduced in that "short" lifetime of the game.
They changed the game itself. And many didn't like it.
This isn't just a "old man yells at clouds" situation like you want to make it out to be.
The game changed.
There is no more strategic plays in this game. You can't react to a play anymore.
You get your combo, you win. Your opponent shuts you down, he wins.
It's much more akin to gambling at the higher levels of play.
Which is what Konami wants to propagate.
it's not just old old returning players, even veterans of the game in 2007-2012 will have a very hard time adjusting to the stupid game mechanics like xyz exceeds where every archtype has 3 or more special exceed summon cards unique to the deck that you have to understand. Plus every archtype has it's own spells and effect monsters to read up on or else you won't fully understand what is happening. Draw 5 on turn 1 now not 6... Enjoy watching your opponent play solitaire with their hand and extra deck.
I quit because it's no longer the game I love. It's horrible like magic the gathering now.
"Enjoy watching your opponent play solitaire with their hand and extra deck.
"
I dunno why but I fucking love that. It is like Solitaire now that I think about it, with spam summoning with pendulums and effect monsters to bring out almost a full field of stacked up XYZ and Synchro cards.
Chazz vc lol magic gathering I hate those players dude
XYZ format was the easiest to get into for me honestly, they were the least archetype specific cards that were flexible to summon. Synchros just ruined everything.
Chazz vc Drawing five if you went first was to balance the game you dipshit.
Also the closest you'll get to solitaire in Yugioh is Exodia decks
Only FTK versions of Exodia.Regular 'Fight until you get all 5 pieces' isn't a solitaire.
I went through 4 boxes of Cross Souls for Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit. I refuse to paid $80 for one card. I'll say this though, I do miss playing the "Yata Lock" deck growing up #freeYata #freeStratos
I bought one pack and got it in that one pack
Nick Simpson Congrats
TheClimaxHD Exactly
+jonathan verna But in the end how much did you pay for all the boxes?
Dugtrio?
I truly loved this video I’m getting back into yu-gi-oh I loved the game as a kid and I truly appreciate the honesty brought to me, and a lot of other players, by you guys about the game and how it has advanced. Now if you excuse me I have to take a look at my decks now and re-do them lol.
How many mint legacy of blue eyes cards exist?
Probably a lot, that deck only came out a few years ago.
I came to this video because I quit playing like five years ago and you guys just act like anyone who quit was just a scrub so I learned zero helpful tips so thanks for nothing!
thetowelbringer This isn't meant to be a video on tips , this is a video to tell you all the shit you'll have to understand before you start playing again
Agree, this video is super abrasive and not helpful
Fin You're not missing much tbh. I don't play, but I do enjoy watching Yugitubers lol
Well it clearly changes alot whith the timespan and the Knowledge you left. Within 5 years i guess only linksummon is new? But many of the Points still stands, the pricetags for your Cards are probably lower, your deck is very likely overshadowed by newer strategies.... So i think this post is an Little too salty.
Ist yust an Little depressing you might even translate it to "do not start playing again and start with an slower progressing tcg" but what they tell you here is not wrong.
_>Your old cards aren't worth anything_
Muh first edition solemn judgment, though. Ebay says ~$50.
Ahegao A Dark Magician Tin goes for around $200. for a bunch of old cards that aren't supposed to be worth anything, they're sure worth something. Alot of people are seeking the older packs and tins. Stupid people paying high amounts of money for cards that aren't worth anything, right? 😂
jceyx _
There's quite a difference between what you're saying and what the video is saying. People will pay a lot of money for unopened tins or packs or boxes because they're unopened, not because of whatever cards are in the set. Collectors will never, ever open that Dark Magician tin because that would ruin its collector's value.
That said, the video wasn't 100% clear on its statement either. People won't pay much for your old cards that aren't in print anymore, UNLESS they have been protected and kept in mint condition or as close to mint condition as possible. The problem is that most people probably kept their cards from that era in a shoebox or a low-end binder, degrading their quality and making them worth little to nothing for collectors.
I still have a blue-eyes lying around who looks pretty good to me.
@@theoryoftheinnocent why can't more people be like you...
The beginning of the video is unsettling. :s
+SebTsch Haha what do you mean?
***** I feel like I am being stared at O_O
You guys are very wrong I over killed by 9300 life points a fluff all deck with my combo deck
you must be in a wierd place in your life, but I saw that too I laughed out loud thou,them eyes was for them yugioh ladies how few they are....lol
If you’re so “aware” of the tone you’re taking why even upload the video? The title made it seem like you were encouraging people and we’re gonna give helpful insight...
NEW SUMMONING lmao i left yugioh wayyyy back in the day when synchros came out just got back into the game with a shaddoll dino deck, love the videos keep it up
I use some new cards, but mostly old cards still. No link summons, jo snycro, only 1 fusion for the Stein deck and 1 xyz for my warrior deck. I also have chain burn, noble knight, and spellcaster. Mostly 3 of everything besides some 2s and obviously some limited cards. So your saying mirror force, cylinder, and more run of the mill traps and spells arent worth using now?
idc what anyone says in my opinion from time that I played before all this new shit Jinzo was the best card/my favorite
Andrew Decker he's actually good for side board
Paul Hensley now adays yea I don't doubt it, but when I played he was a staple and Everyone ran Jinzo, this was before archetypes and all these new mechanics back when u just played a deck of good cards
I was just getting used to xyz when freaking pendulums came
ughhh yugioh doesnt even seem fun anymore
It is, you just have to find people who are interested in playing it the way you want to.
so... when you say "your ________ deck won't work now", you mean the deck I grab off my shelf nd had in middle school (Junior High)? I'm sorta looking into getting back into dueling (mostly because I'm watching the OG series and I'm feeling nostalgic and I'm looking around the internet for Spellcaster/Dark Magician centred decks to use/build off of. Would buying a bunch of cards for a decent deck I found on a message board (at least to start off) be a bad way to ease my way back in?
Havent played since 2011, is black luster soldier EOTB a deck theme that could work in 2017, or did they ban him again.