Deserved? Well, if she HIT routines consistently she’d have had a lot more. Vault 2008- would have likely been bronze if she hadn’t gone early. Beam 2008- completely botched- and missed- an entire element which was hugely costly. Floor 2008… I don’t think she’d have medaled anyway as she hadn’t scored higher than the first three throughput the games, but one never knows. The reality is, the athletes with the most medals are the ones who most consistently perform at peak.
@@saragrant9749 Agreed. Her BB EF routine in Athens was pretty good but her wobble after the back flip 1/1 really cost her a medal. After this she won a few medals at the Euros in 2005 but her performances at WCs in 2005 were not strong enough to medal. Then in 2006 and onwards under the new COP her routines (and vaults) were generally not difficult enough, especially on UB. Her beam set was competitive but she had too many small errors at crucial moments, including in the Beijing EF. Overall, she just wasn't able to adjust to the new COP.
@@poshboindeed- and she’s certainly not the first I saw that had that situation. It’s a shame because she was a fantastic gymnast, full of elegance and ability but just not with enough consistency to garner those coveted medals. Her bars I always felt were a case of just not being entirely comfortable and “at one” with the apparatus. Many a gymnast I’ve seen over the years had one event- usually bars or beam- that challenged them and for Anna it was definitely bars. Some certainly could be contributed to her coaching. Those three world/Olympic medals were well earned though, along with the European ones. I do wonder if she is now coaching- she certainly would make an excellent one.
I feel like she should've gotten bronze. Even tho her difficulty was brought down by the missed connection, she made up for it do a switch ring leap instead of just a switch split leap so it didn't bring her difficulty down really.
@@Greatgownsbeautifulgownss I’m aware she did, but in that system connection was still factored into the overall score. A broken connection, whether it altered start value or not was still costly. Eremia had no such break and that’s why she won bronze and not Anna. Sad, but reality.
Naw. The top 3 routines were all excellent. You can't rewatch Eremia's routine and seriously say this should have beaten it. This was great, but the top 3 were too good.
The story of Anna Pavlova is a story about 4th place...UNDESERVED 4th PLACE! I can't say much about her 4th place finish here, if only she didn't miss her second connection. BUT, she didn't deserve 4th in the All-Around here! Her vault was underscored and the 3rd place gymnast, I forget her name but I believe she was from China and I remember she was overscored! AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HER 4TH PLACE FINISH IN THE BEAM FINALS IN BEIJING IN '08!!!! Yes, she missed her first back handstand, BUT SHE DIDNT NEED IT! Cheng Fei was RIDICULOUSLY overscored (Actually, the entire Olympics the Chinese were overscored on beam! Specifically Cheng Fei in the BB finals and the Chinese during the team final). She had way too many LARGE balance checks to receive and execution OVER 9.0! She received a 9.150 execution which is absolutly ridiculous! She CLEARY had a worse performance than her qualification routine and yet OUTSCORED her qualification routine! Some judges in the BB finals gave her a 9.3 execution....WHAT!?!??!?! INSANE!!! Even Cheng Fei HERSELF was surprised by her score! You could hear her say "Whoa!" when it was shown! Criminal! The fact that Anna Pavlova went her career with only 2 Olympic bronze medals is nuts!
I wish Anna had won the bronze, but I rewatched Eremia's routine and thought it was a great routine and cleaner than Anna's. She had a little hesitation, which probably cost her the bronze. Overall, that beam final was neck in neck. Even though I prefer Catalina Ponor to Carly Patterson, it must have been a difficult for the judge to decide the gold medalist. It must be the same for Anna vs Alexandria.
It was definitely the downside of the 10 scoring system. She had a 10 value- until the hesitation. It was just enough to lower it to a 9.9 which made the difference. In a later code she might have still had enough start value.
I think her switch ring instead of the intended switch leap brought back her SV at 10.00 and made up for the broken connection but cost her in execution. But I could be wrong, I'm not familiar with the 2001-2005 CoP, easily my most hated one ever.
She was scored based on PERFORMANCE. Here, a hesitation that broke connection and incurred a deduction cost her. In 2008, a completely missed element cost her- among other things. You don’t win medals when others hit cleaner, simple fact.
@@TheMajesticice01 you can believe that delusion all you want. Anna did NOT perform a medal worthy routine and her score reflected just that- period, no further discussion.
A front aerial on the beam seems like the scariest thing ever because it's blind and so much is relying on that one foot to land. i'm surprised noone ever misses it. When I was a gymnast us guys would dare each other to try beam stuff and the most we did was standing back flips.
@@Albuddy1867the full twisting back handspring was supposed to be connected into the two layouts. She was a little off and had to gather herself back- just a very quick hesitation, but it was enough.
She was NOT robbed. Why does everyone always think their fav was robbed. At this point in the competition every iittle hobble and bobble counts. Aggression counts. Her SV counts. She was not robbed. While I love her gymnastics she just was not ON her game here and others were. Doesn't mean they are better gymnasts. Means they were better at THIS competition. ..which just happened to be the Olympics
I so agree with this. And even I'm a huge fan of her. Great repetoire of skills but in that scoring system, any little mistake took you out the picture even though your routine was more difficult than the rest .
I wouldn’t necessarily say that entirely. Your ladies still have plenty of difficulty, it’s just that sometimes consistency is the tough part- just like it can be for any gymnast. When they do hit they are fantastic.
They are part of the artistic side of the sport. Instead of having to use derogatory and childish terms like “pansy” how about you go watch a bunch of men wresting- that seems more your- very much- uncouth style.
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gosh I love her Onodi. exquisite
Anna Pavlova is freaking good on beam too.. Really a great talent
I get intensely furious when I remember that she only has 3 world and olympic medals, when she deserved many many more
Deserved? Well, if she HIT routines consistently she’d have had a lot more. Vault 2008- would have likely been bronze if she hadn’t gone early. Beam 2008- completely botched- and missed- an entire element which was hugely costly. Floor 2008… I don’t think she’d have medaled anyway as she hadn’t scored higher than the first three throughput the games, but one never knows. The reality is, the athletes with the most medals are the ones who most consistently perform at peak.
@@saragrant9749 Agreed. Her BB EF routine in Athens was pretty good but her wobble after the back flip 1/1 really cost her a medal. After this she won a few medals at the Euros in 2005 but her performances at WCs in 2005 were not strong enough to medal. Then in 2006 and onwards under the new COP her routines (and vaults) were generally not difficult enough, especially on UB. Her beam set was competitive but she had too many small errors at crucial moments, including in the Beijing EF. Overall, she just wasn't able to adjust to the new COP.
@@poshboindeed- and she’s certainly not the first I saw that had that situation. It’s a shame because she was a fantastic gymnast, full of elegance and ability but just not with enough consistency to garner those coveted medals. Her bars I always felt were a case of just not being entirely comfortable and “at one” with the apparatus. Many a gymnast I’ve seen over the years had one event- usually bars or beam- that challenged them and for Anna it was definitely bars. Some certainly could be contributed to her coaching. Those three world/Olympic medals were well earned though, along with the European ones. I do wonder if she is now coaching- she certainly would make an excellent one.
And only one individual medal 😢
@@thesovgcat least she had that one. There are many who have gone to three or even four games- with nothing to show for it.
that is the most beautiful beam routine I have ever seen... So clean and sure-footed. So confident. Bravo, Ms. Pavlova.
There is no word to describe how much I love this girl.
BEAUTIFUL Onodi. She just dives right into it.
Amazing triple twist.
I feel like she should've gotten bronze. Even tho her difficulty was brought down by the missed connection, she made up for it do a switch ring leap instead of just a switch split leap so it didn't bring her difficulty down really.
Hesitation still cost a bit too much- not just broken connectors but considered an error. That’s all it took with that 10 system.
@@saragrant9749she still got a 10.0 SV!
@@Greatgownsbeautifulgownss I’m aware she did, but in that system connection was still factored into the overall score. A broken connection, whether it altered start value or not was still costly. Eremia had no such break and that’s why she won bronze and not Anna. Sad, but reality.
Naw. The top 3 routines were all excellent. You can't rewatch Eremia's routine and seriously say this should have beaten it. This was great, but the top 3 were too good.
@@DouglasJefferson-tp9kp it’s ultimately subjective. I like Anna’s skill selection and elegance better.
Nem a própria Henrietta tinha um Onodi tão impressionante e lindo como quando Anna fazia, sensacional e linda demais 👏🏽
She always had Gorgeoussss gymnastics
The story of Anna Pavlova is a story about 4th place...UNDESERVED 4th PLACE! I can't say much about her 4th place finish here, if only she didn't miss her second connection. BUT, she didn't deserve 4th in the All-Around here! Her vault was underscored and the 3rd place gymnast, I forget her name but I believe she was from China and I remember she was overscored! AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HER 4TH PLACE FINISH IN THE BEAM FINALS IN BEIJING IN '08!!!! Yes, she missed her first back handstand, BUT SHE DIDNT NEED IT! Cheng Fei was RIDICULOUSLY overscored (Actually, the entire Olympics the Chinese were overscored on beam! Specifically Cheng Fei in the BB finals and the Chinese during the team final). She had way too many LARGE balance checks to receive and execution OVER 9.0! She received a 9.150 execution which is absolutly ridiculous! She CLEARY had a worse performance than her qualification routine and yet OUTSCORED her qualification routine! Some judges in the BB finals gave her a 9.3 execution....WHAT!?!??!?! INSANE!!! Even Cheng Fei HERSELF was surprised by her score! You could hear her say "Whoa!" when it was shown! Criminal! The fact that Anna Pavlova went her career with only 2 Olympic bronze medals is nuts!
Pavlova would’ve taken bronze in beam if she HAD NOT MISSED AN ENTIRE ELEMENT!! That’s more costly than the bobbles by Cheng unfortunately.
@@saragrant9749 I don’t disagree, necessarily. It would be interesting to see the results, however, if the Olympics weren’t held in China.
@@patrickkim92 perhaps. I just hope they don’t come back all of a sudden and discover another age discrepancy… that would just be a travesty.
Love the stag ring leap. Absolutely stunning!
Her coach should have petitioned the judges to up her scores!
The reality was, she had that one hesitation- and in the 10 system that’s all it took. The medal winners were just simply smoother.
Wow, she is so amazing.
a real beauty,
I wish Anna had won the bronze, but I rewatched Eremia's routine and thought it was a great routine and cleaner than Anna's. She had a little hesitation, which probably cost her the bronze. Overall, that beam final was neck in neck. Even though I prefer Catalina Ponor to Carly Patterson, it must have been a difficult for the judge to decide the gold medalist. It must be the same for Anna vs Alexandria.
It was definitely the downside of the 10 scoring system. She had a 10 value- until the hesitation. It was just enough to lower it to a 9.9 which made the difference. In a later code she might have still had enough start value.
I think her switch ring instead of the intended switch leap brought back her SV at 10.00 and made up for the broken connection but cost her in execution. But I could be wrong, I'm not familiar with the 2001-2005 CoP, easily my most hated one ever.
She’s everything 🌸🌸🌸🌸
4th. But many think she deserved the bronze over Eremia
Difference being, Eremina didn’t have a hesitation that broke a connection. In that system it was costly.
Very unique program so good performaned❤
She's brilliant!
yeah how the fuck didn't she medal.... She was always underscored.
She was scored based on PERFORMANCE. Here, a hesitation that broke connection and incurred a deduction cost her. In 2008, a completely missed element cost her- among other things. You don’t win medals when others hit cleaner, simple fact.
@@saragrant9749not Cheng Fei! Anna was ROBBED in Beijing
@@TheMajesticice01 you can believe that delusion all you want. Anna did NOT perform a medal worthy routine and her score reflected just that- period, no further discussion.
Pavlova was the best female gymnast at these Games.
Uh… no. Those who WON were the best at those games. Anna was great, but far from the best.
Hermosa Anita siento que la suerte no estuvo de su lado, aparte hermosa 😍😍😍
Stunning gymnast!
Did anyone else notice the little ballet entrechat @ 1:33?
1:45 ohhh good
VERY underscore....!
Broken connection hurt her score
A front aerial on the beam seems like the scariest thing ever because it's blind and so much is relying on that one foot to land. i'm surprised noone ever misses it. When I was a gymnast us guys would dare each other to try beam stuff and the most we did was standing back flips.
It takes a great deal of practice for it to become second nature- as all gymnastics moves do. You eventually just do it without thinking.
I LOOOOOVE Anna but she was not robbed. She missed a connection and got deducted. And that brought her score down
Which one?
@@Albuddy1867the full twisting back handspring was supposed to be connected into the two layouts. She was a little off and had to gather herself back- just a very quick hesitation, but it was enough.
💞👑💞
She was NOT robbed. Why does everyone always think their fav was robbed. At this point in the competition every iittle hobble and bobble counts. Aggression counts. Her SV counts. She was not robbed. While I love her gymnastics she just was not ON her game here and others were. Doesn't mean they are better gymnasts. Means they were better at THIS competition. ..which just happened to be the Olympics
I so agree with this. And even I'm a huge fan of her. Great repetoire of skills but in that scoring system, any little mistake took you out the picture even though your routine was more difficult than the rest .
She was robbed BIG time!!!
@@minion0777 in your mind only, which doesn’t count.
@@annapavfan4680she was given a 10.0 SV
Why did she check the spring board...she didn't even use it to mount?
Andrea Jimenez She didn't check the spring board -- she moved it out of the way. Yes, I realize I'm four years late :)
Раньше наши девочки так шикарно на бревне выступали ...и не только, мне кажется с годами сложность возрастает, а у нас наоборот 😑
I wouldn’t necessarily say that entirely. Your ladies still have plenty of difficulty, it’s just that sometimes consistency is the tough part- just like it can be for any gymnast. When they do hit they are fantastic.
1- Pavlova. 2- Ponor.3- Eremia.
jose moreno 1 pavlova 2 tied Ponor Patterson.
NOT EVEN A MEDAL!? C'mon...
Broken connection hurt- it lowered her SV.
I am wondering the same.
Can someone please explain something? Why does s
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I must be uncouth. I find all those pansy arm movements to be very distracting.
They are part of the artistic side of the sport. Instead of having to use derogatory and childish terms like “pansy” how about you go watch a bunch of men wresting- that seems more your- very much- uncouth style.