People really said that? Weird, this actually one of the more realistic plots. Sure, stealth boats and other parts of the film are stupid. But a coup attempt by an army general being backed by a major news corporation, is more realistic than most of the plots in the Moore films and Brosnan's other films.
Because we have seen how powerful control of the media really is. 1 million Americans died from covid and the US public is still unable to unanimously say the virus was a bad thing.
He is kind of dumb though. Why would he think that people will use newspapers more if world war 3 started instead of just still using online news sources
@@AFGuidesHD but Jonathan Price's excellent delivery really hammers the point that those who triumph on the most far fetched schemes are often considered as revolutionary thinkers while those who fail are labeled mad-men.
That's what I told my wife. I didn't finish high school and created new two technologies. One for my own business. We made money till she said she wasn't happy.now I'm starting over again. I guess my genius was lost to a stupid reason.
@@KYExtemperpeople laughed at Bond driving the BMW 7 Series with his phone. Now we are seeing it become reality, if not quite to the dramatic extent in the movie.
A smaller version of that happened in Brazil, a journalist had connections with cartels and he pretty much ordered them to do crimes so that he could boost the views of his "real crime" tv show.
The most criminally underrated Bond villain of all time...and his distance between insanity and genius quote is one of the most profound quotes in any movie. Jonathan Pryce was flawless here!
satellites have also become the new maps... cause I have never used one of those stupid big paper maps... google maps and GPS is what allows many delivery services... so I guess satellites are jobs for people getting paid less than minimum wage. satellite tv is cool. tbh when I saw this in theatres as a kid (1986) tbh... I had no idea that James Bond was making anything up at all. Austin Powers I was thinking that... maybe... maybe I would let him shag me baby. 🤪🖖
@@christophermiller3031 You don't even understand the difference between satellites and satnav receivers, a concept that the writers of this particular movie were also wrong about.
Fake media is nothing new, nor is it news to anyone who actually knows history. Only rightwing Trumptards who have no knowledge about anything until one of their loud mouthed pundits cries about it on Faux News think this is something new..
@@johndododoe1411 ...my comment was about my childish interpretation of the scene... Sooo if anything... Please refelct on why you had to empower yourself by informing me of my stupidity. Truth is bud, you don't know me at all. 👽🖖
I mean information as power is hardly new. Countries and people have been manipulating the flow of information since the dawn of time. Printing press, radio, television, and internet only made it more obvious. It’s just kinda annoying when movies state an obvious fact and people are like “WOW this movie predicted everything!” Businessmen buy magazines, the army pays off newspaper for positive coverage, hitler blasted propaganda through radio and kings persecuted intellectuals. What’s new besides an evolved form of media?
For years I've been saying Carver's plan is brilliant and ages the best out of all the Bond villains and nobody believed me. Now I think people are starting to realize how criminally underrated Tomorrow Never Dies is. Goldeneye is the last great Cold War Bond movie, Tomorrow Never Dies is Bond officially entering the modern world.
I wonder if they'll ever go back to something remotely realistic like this instead of the usual "super terrorist wants to gas every city" or something.
@@AFGuidesHD Or something like "Bond, this is your target, find him and destroy him" and it's a game of hunter vs hunted of Bond and bad guy changing positions constantly.
@@AFGuidesHD I dunno, funding terrorism (Casino Royale) or hoarding natural resources (Quantum of Solace) were pretty grounded plot devices. Then Skyfall started slowly taking us back to sci-fi, illuminati type plots until we looped back around to nanobots.
They should have added the part where it is mentioned that Carver is releasing a new software that is intentionally buggy to fore people to upgrade. It is too relevant these days.
That sort of reminds me of video game developers who lock items and features already in the game that you have to pay extra for instead of actually offering you bonus new content after the game comes out how expansion packs and dlc use to be.
It's a common factor in modern day consumer capitalism. Whereas in days gone by, things were made to last, now things are made to fail after a certain period so you have to buy a new one.
It's crazy looking back at this movie when it first came out. one of the biggest complaints I remember was how the villain was " Weak " and " Hardly a threat " to Bond in comparison to others. But in 2022? Man he looks like the biggest threat there is.
He was launching missiles to trigger a war, or at the very least armed conflict between Britain and China, and people thought he was "hardly a threat". Wow.
@@MegaVikingen I think after 006 posed both a physical and intellectual threat to Bond audiences expected more of that. In fairness Alec Trevelyan is a hard act to follow as far as Bond villains go.
@@falconeshield Elon is James Bond in this case... Comcast, Walt Disney, Charter Communications Inc, Netflix, and Paramount are the ones that own the media and hide how much influence they have on you. They just tried to start World War III 😵💫🚀Russia never fired a missile into Poland. Ukraine on the other hand did. But what did the initial news coverage say?
I guess Drax from Moonraker is kinda like Elon Musk if he was a Bond villain. But people probably think of Bond villain as cartoony sometimes, but there is legitimate good writing in some of them that makes them relatable to actual real villains with this much power.
@@RockNRollaMACooh, they should make a Bond film dealing against the abusive food company cartels, child slavery and human trafficking. "Universal Exports: On His Majesty's Secret Service" would be an appropriate film title on this thematic.
"and Twitter will provide cool objective coverage" lmao 100% on point is that line. If anyone can remember the amount of WW3 posting was going on when a single drone hit Poland. Imagine the cool and objective posts we'd get if anything like this happened/ happens.
I was actually scared since Zelensky went on an intense warmongering thread calling for Article 5 and the intervention of NATO. Soon we learned the rocket was Ukrainian. 🤦♂️ But that didn't stop US and European Senators fron retweeting and jumping the bandwagon to start WW3. This James Bond Movie is far truer than we let it out to be.
@@nickyjames1985 Not to the extent we do today. The speed at which media operates nowadays is incomparable to the past. Like in the movie, the ease of publishing manipulated truths, or blatant lies, have allowed the media to easily control public perception of events.
@@AICW "right now" bruh the China market has been an interest of the West since international trade began lol. People really do think history began in 1945. Even the modern concept of "everything is made in China" was true in 1997.
I constantly hear people talking about how ridiculous Carver's plan is in this movie and how that makes him a bad Bond villain. I would argue that first, he's a Bond villain, of course his plan is ridiculous; but aside from that, the fact that what he's doing vs. what he's gaining is so lopsided actually makes him a great, if slightly unusual Bond villain. Though exaggerated, because once again, he's a Bond villain, this is the kind of stuff real people in power do for comparatively small gains. Carver isn't even necessarily getting any richer off this plan. Really, he just wants attention. Tomorrow Never Dies is actually one of my favorite Bond movies, and Elliot Carver is a big part of why.
He is getting much richer, though. Exclusive news rights for a century in CHINA. Back then this wasn't a trend, but now Hollywood, the NBA, etc., bend over backwards just to reach the Chinese market. If anything, Carver was way ahead of his time.
Funny thing about Carver’s plan. It’s not as ridiculous as it seems once you understand how the media works. It’s honestly one of the best thought out plans one can come up with. If you control the media, you control everything else because people want to believe the media no matter how fake the news really is. Fake news become reality when it doesn’t get a proper, unbiased fact check.
If only Dalton was playing against Jonathan Pryce''s Carver then the film would be truly great. With Brosnan, the villains were always better than Brosnan's Bond.
I don't give a *DAMN* how many more James Bond movies Sean Connery or Daniel Craig starred in, or who likes them more, Pierce Brosnan is - *In My Personal Opinion* - *THE One True* James Bond 007.
@@jadedandbitter Which is sorta funny but considering that EVERY device you buy from Apple needs to have iTunes to use it, the technocracy in the design is there absolutely. Though the one this is based off is Media Tyccoons such as Robert Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch. Meaning people who own the press and can manipulate it for their benefit, as compared to independent news papers and organizations
The media's already doing this for a while, unfortunately. Just read all the news articles mistranslating admiral Luo Yuan's supposed proposal of sinking 2 American aircraft carriers and killing thousands of Americans. What he actually said was that carrier-killing missiles would be a deterrence against American aircraft carriers attacking China, he didn't propose sinking American aircraft carriers at all. Arguing that China should establish a cost-effective capability of sinking aircraft carriers to act as a deterrence is a far cry from proposing to sink American aircraft carriers + killing everyone on board. But I guess the news can't tell the difference though. Plus, the news also don't mention that he's only an admiral in name, and is treated as a joke in China because of his bad ideas. He's not exactly the brightest candle in the room, but he's not the warmonger the news made him out to be.
@@peasantmob1712 Media love 'gotcha' moments. Anything that will stir people's emotions and invoke rage. Rage is the most susceptible of our emotions, it doesn't take too much to upset people these days. You just need the right angle from the media. The media long ago across the West stopped caring about facts and instead concentrated more on trying to incite people.
@@largol33t1 Actually, the character is based on Robert Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch. But even then, the idea of the villain being a media mogul isn't far out.
I don't understand how this film only has 52% it should at least be 80%. They ain't as good as Goldeneye but this and the world is not enough are brilliant Bond films (honestly Brosnan and Dalton need more praise they are amazing bonds).
because most people who ever reviewed these movies were kids or young when connery and moore had their tenure and they have nostalgy glasses for those. likewise its easy to see most 90s kids love brosnan or dalton. all these 25 movies are basically the same thing and the margin should at max be 5%. except when you want to make top 100 movies list or whatever and dont want to add 20 identical bonds to the list
@@StuntmanMike88 I still like his last one too. It has a couple of faults: 1) the theme song, and 2) a specific action scene (you probably know which one I'm referring to).
I loved him. Jonathan Pryce was a criminally underrated villain, and is, a brilliant actor. I had no idea of the significance of the fake news aspect of it until 2020.
He was a present-day commentary on douches like Rupert Murdoch (I feel weary by explaining this, but Rupert Murdoch was a going thing in 1998) and British newspaper mogul Robert Maxwell.
I love that villains have been telling Bond he's too old-fashioned and has no place in this new world for over 25 years, and he proves them wrong every single time.
Kind of reminds me of this quote from Doctor Who: "The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to primitive attack. People often overlook the obvious."
@@JacF6734 Use a fancy biometric or RFID scanner for door access. But also uses an unshielded electronic door strike which can defeated with a Butter Knife. Keep your eyes pealed, i've found these way too many times.
the new Q berates him for being small beans compared to technology, yet when Silva hacks the MI6 mainframe Bond is the only one able to catch a vital hint among the chaos on screen
Oh he would definitely be a rogue agent, because he would be a Tory. The media and far-right think tanks now control the party, but before Brexit, he would be the rogue agent working with the fringe against the established Cameron camp. And he would be an asset after the coup. He will be the king.
But often they are both and that's a common game of the Elite switch around in reality Putin no 2 / Ukraine - Azov - Mossad - ISIS - Hamas - Gaza - Rainbow Velvet Coup d'etats A war that has only one side. But the staged is set by history the big frame lie beforehand. Even silly Truss complained she was kicked out by the deep state. And she was.
"Words are the new weapons. Satellites are the new artillery." "Then why are you firing missiles from a sub?" "Okay maybe the old artillery is also the new artillery."
I dont blame Carver for revealing tons of exposition to the characters and us, the audience. It is actually genius, as Carver's emense growth of power and influence over his enemies and the world has made him so impressed of his own work, that it would be insane NOT to brag about it. This Bond movie can be excused in so many ways. It IS THAT Good.
He was based on Robert Maxwell and I like reference that M makes to Moneypenny at the end of the film. Saying how Carver is 'missing presumed drowned on a cruise on his luxury yacht in the South China sea".
@@joetamzarian1817 Yeah let's not be ambiguously cryptic, she's inside for helping to procure under age girls for prolific pedophile Jeffery epstien. 😳
I got huge Murdoch vibes at the time. Probably helps that Murdoch is so well known as a media identity and would likely be the first person that would come to mind when people saw the movie and thought who it was based on.
This was the very first Bond film I ever saw in theaters as a kid. My dad took me. I loved it. Went back and watched all the old ones. This was right around the time Goldeneye came out for N64. This film will always have a special place in my heart. Ppl like Daniel Craig and that’s fine. I don’t mind him. But Pierce Brosnan is my James Bond. He’s drifted a tank, reverse skydived into a falling plane, Slid a motorcycle one handed under helicopter rotors, destroyed an enemy plane by ejecting a guy into one from underneath, driven a boat underwater as well on an London streets with police behind him, and wind surfed an ice avalanche and explosion. He’s the man lol.
my experience and words exactly. I saw Tomorrow Never Dies in Theatres, and I got interested in all the Bond movies around the time of Goldeneye 64 thanks to my dad knowing about it. I still own all of them on VHS. and now DVD.
@@westingtyler1 hell yeah! Were you really excited waiting for “The World is Not Enough” to come out too?? I know some ppl don’t but I love that one. The score is amazing as well.
@@pab1381 I was super excited waiting for TWINE. I think it shifted away from ambient open stealth and more toward linear action, so I didn't enjoy it as much. from a design perspective, that's when I noticed they just spammed levels with armor pickups, whereeas each Goldeneye level had ONE armor pickup, a sign of good or bad balancing I think. I played pretty much all the bonds up past From Russia With Love, and I loved the grapple hook in multiplayer of Agent Under Fire, though for me nothing feels the same as GoldenEye. I've recently replayed GoldenEye, and it's NOT nostalgia. The design is acatually unique among shooters, and I have big text documents breaking everything down and plan to make my own GoldenEye style game when I can. In the meantime there's one called Agent 64 you can get a demo of for free on Steam, and it feels like a mix between GoldenEye and Perfect Dark. What did you think of Perfect Dark? I also love it and think its multiplayer is god tier, though I prefer the gritty industrial brutalist Cold War vibe of GoldenEye over the "AppleCore" slick plastic futuristic vibe of Perfect Dark.
I liked Die Another Day because it showed Bond being captured, tortured and vulnerable and then not being trusted on release. You didn't really see Bond like that, back then. Also I barely played N64 but when I did I loved Goldeneye because I found most multiplayer shooters so inaccessible and I'd end up giving up before I ever had a chance to learn but with Goldeneye it was so easy to pick up and play and I was instantly no better/worse than any of my friends.
Watching this again, I thought Goldeneye was way far in front as a better movie, but I must say, this movie has aged incredibly well and it's a lot closer than I thought. GoldenEye was personal, and this was global, but both were very good. Jonathan Pryce is incredible in every scene he's in just like Sean Bean.
Every time I watch this movie, I think of my father who used to read the Baltimore Sun everyday up until his last breathe! He also believed everything that was broadcasted on television. He was a great man - a B29 gunner during WW2 and a man who could fix anything but when it came to the news, he was nothing but one of the sheep! This movie always hit a nerve with me because even though it didn’t strike a nerve with the younger generation, some of us who were born late got the punch line!
I'm particularly interested in this phenomenon because I see my parents, completely part of the herd from anyone that tells them what they want to hear, and follow blindly (and share those news blindly). What is the age/generation that is aware of the manipulation? Will I become a victim unbeknownst to me on the future? Am I really as self-aware as I think?. Anyway, musings from the cotidiano
@@nairocamilo It starts from as soon as your able to think. Ideas are slowly spoonfed to you from birth and every year since. Everyone can and will be manipulated by what they see and experience. The only difference is if you let it. Question everything. I only recently did that and it doesn't gain me any favours with people. A lot of people assume your paranoid or worse, but I disagree. Look at the world we live in now. Is it too much of a stretch to assume that a government will orchestrate an atrocity to further their own agenda while the masses believe it unconditionally? As an infamous Austrian and his cronies once said; the battle for the mind starts in the cradle.
@@nairocamilo I think especially soldiers are extra susceptible to believing anything they hear from the media, it could be a carry-over from military conditioning. Especially American military and police condition absolute obedience, and this might very well extend to the news since they usually present themselves as "trusted state media" which could be interpreted as "the voice of the government".
@@nairocamilo The problem is that so many people THINK they're cynical and insightful when they're not. See: every conspiracy theorist who mocks you for "trusting the MSM" while blindly trusting whatever the latest QAnon babble happens to be.
The thing is, one needs to be careful when recognising how manipulated the news can be, that we don't fall prey to the other side of the coin. There are people that seek to 'empower' those that realise how manipulated the news can get and then proceed to manipulate them, for their own devious ends and some don't even realise that they are still being manipulated but just by different sources. Consume all news but use your common sense to work out what's real and be careful not to fall into a trap of either blindly following traditional news or blindly believing everything that isn't traditional news.
Funny people used to call him the most cartoonish of all the bonds with the wackiest of gadgets. But he was always the most Stone Cold killer of all the bonds. Watching and commit cold-blooded murder in this movie when he killed the Hitman was brutal as hell. And in so many movies you see him just pulled the trigger with an ice cold look that the other Bond simply don't succeed with.
Before the Craig era, TND was my favourite Bond film hands down. The music alone is magnificent when you think is was Arnold’s first gig. Brosnan’s into the role, the villain is slimy but his plan plausible for once and the action is awesome. The opening scene is tremendous as is the car park chase.
@@MrNicoJac I think I do yeah. Casino Royale blew me away. QoS was edited by a madman but is a guilty pleasure. Skyfall is great, Spectre okay and NTTD has great moments. When I try and watch Brosnan now some of it hasn’t aged well at all, certainly not in Die Another Day. He’ll always have a place as I grew up watching his tenture over and over and over and maybe there’s recency bias, but Craig’s era steals it.
@@theblackwhisper What blew you away about Casino Royale? I really didn't like it - so maybe seeing it through your eyes can open mine to what I'm missing, haha :) (I think I just really missed Brosnan - to me, he was the perfect balance between sarcasm, toughness, and smart solutions - oh, and the best/most-advanced gadgets of course)
@@MrNicoJac I honestly went in with low expectations. I loved DAD at the time and I’d seen all this stuff about the new guy and was just like he’s nowhere near as suave as Brosnan. But from that cold opening showing how Bond gets his double 00 shot in black & white, the You Know My Name song (I was already a Chris Cornell fan) and that construction site chase, I was hooked. The rest was just gravy. Eva Green makes for a stunning Bond girl, their chemistry is great, the dialogue is witty and plays with what we know (“shaken or stirred?” “do I look like I give a damn”) the plot much like TND is grounded in reality, the score by Arnold is off the charts (listen to African Rundown, Blunt Instrument and Vesper from the score) and the action just never lets up. Craig’s Bond was raw, unapologetic and from that point on I loved his portrayal. Pierce was a victim of the 90s where his Bond never evolved but Craig’s was able to during his five films. CR is not just my favourite Bond film, it’s probably my favourite of all time.
I remember thinking this plot was ridiculous at the time but here we are. 😭 Can’t say there are too many movies that actually age BETTER than the time they were released.
Eliot Carver is my favorite bond villain. I think Jonathan Pryce knew exactly how to play him. He's just campy enough that he comes off as eccentric and not ridiculous and given his plan and his profession he would be on the eccentric side.
I always liked Tomorrow Never Dies as my favorite Brosnan era film. Even more than Goldeneye. I found its villain to be a nice twisted callback to the Dastardly Bad Guys of Bond Past. Throw in one of the most kickass Bond Girls in the entire series, some classic action, such as the motorcycle tandem chase... great Bond one liners, and a plot that doesnt take itself as seriously as Die Another Day or The World is not Enough.
Die Another Day was not taken seriously at all, what are you talking about? An ice fortress that melts from a satellite? Bond surfing on a tidal wave? The movie was a joke. Goldeneye, The World is Not Enough, and Tomorrow Never Dies is the Brosnan trilogy, "Die Another Day" doesn't even exist as far as I'm concerned.
I would say he’s the personification of all mainstream media outlets nowadays. They are all for headlines and getting “the first” out. They thrive on controversy and strife to stay relevant.
@@frostfang7670 Liberal mainstream media serves the status quo, right wing mainstream media is actually insane, evil in some cases. Like yeah CNN can do bullshit journalism but atleast they're not slowing turning their viewers into active terrorists against gay and Trans people
There are media barons in the real world who have pulled similar schemes and succeeded. Wasn't there such an incident where an American ship was felled, and the press whipped up a war - and years later it was discovered the ship sank due to technical failings?
Yes, the USS Maddox. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a complete framing at the time. The war in question was the Vietnam War. What an absolute dusgrace.
Tomorrow Never Dies was the first Bond film I saw, and I loved it as a kid! Instant favourite. I always thought I was looking at it through rose-tinted lenses as I got a little older. But now that I'm an adult, I realize that it really is a great movie. Yes, it has problems, but Carver is probably one of the most realistic Bond villains in his goals. His methods are outlandish, but not wholly unrealistic too.
This movie was made in the shadow of the Hong Kong Handover in 1997, perhaps not plausible but the UK and China having some tension between them was quite current for the movie at the time and it's playing in on that ripped-from-the-headlines reality.
This is why Tomorrow Never Dies is one of my favourite Bond films. As fictional as it is at times, you could imagine someone like Murdoch doing something like this.
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 I know, I was being sarcastic. I think he actually owns Sky News and The Sun too. But the OP is acting like Murdoch is the only bad guy in town when in fact he is a tiny percentage of the media propaganda
This might be my favorite Bond movie. This movie was far more clever than people would have given it credit for, and the story is far more relevant now than it was back then.
As loudmouthed as Ted Turner, as megalomaniac as Rupert Murdoch. Elliot Carver wasn't just a Bond villain, he was the villain who could be rightly described as "the biggest threat to world peace even in real life".
My stepfather always particularly enjoyed this one, I think he's always felt that newspapers spread a degree of fear and disinformation and now I know what he's talking about.
Has always been my favourite Bond film. The RC BMW chase scene was great, along with the opening scene with the jets. I also really liked that the villain had a real personality and real motivations and wasn’t just a complete lunatic that wanted to blow up the word for no reason
I had always said that Goldeneye was my favorite, but the more I think about it, the stronger this one stacks up. Pryce is a pitch perfect Bond villain, the cold open is flawless, and Michelle Yeoh makes everything she touches better.
I was a teenager at the time. Just starting to be able to grasp these concepts. I appreciate this villainous plan far more now. Sadly the real world has even more decrepit plans.
The real theme song for Tomorrow Never Dies is 'Surrender' by K D Lang. Its lyrics are spot on for this villian and the media in general. The song was swapped at the last minute for the boring Sheryl Crow theme at the start, so it plays during the end credits instead and the entire film score is written around it. You should check it out!
If there is a blue Context box under the video, then you know that those who think that they own you are worried that you might start thinking for yourself.
The media's already doing this for a while, unfortunately. Just read all the news articles mistranslating admiral Luo Yuan's supposed proposal of sinking 2 American aircraft carriers and killing thousands of Americans. What he actually said was that carrier-killing missiles would be a deterrence against American aircraft carriers attacking China, he didn't propose sinking American aircraft carriers at all. Arguing that China should establish a cost-effective capability of sinking American aircraft carriers to act as a deterrence in a hypothetical scenario of America declaring war.... is a far cry from arguing to outright attack American aircraft carriers + killing everyone on board in real life during a time when there is no war. But I guess the news can't tell the difference though. Plus, the news also don't mention that he's only an admiral in name, and is treated as a joke in China because of his bad ideas.
Dude is literally Klaus Schwab. We used to think villains with plots like this were hokey and childish, but that's only because we assumed the public at large was smarter than they truly are. After the last couple years since 2020, if one thing has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be true, it's that not only is this bond villain believable, but there are dozens of him scattered around the globe, enacting this plan regularly, and with precision in order to convince people the world around them is different from what it actually is.
BAHAHAHA You think the bond villain is Klaus Schwab. The fact you know what he looks like and his name already makes that wrong. The real villains in the world are Faceless.
@@bud389 Very much soo, the public had no clue who he was until he got caught too many times. He did his work in the shadows for decades. Seems like you forgot the facts of that case.
It's incredible how well this film and it's main villain have aged. Elliot Carver seemed ridiculous when I first saw this movie; now, after having seen how corrupt our mainstream media is, how deluded and egotistical they can be, it all makes sense.
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People in 1997: pfft this is unrealistic
People in 2022: you seen that documentary tomorrow never dies?
This comment deserves more up votes.
1898 calling...they say it's always been this way.
@@dclark142002it was even referenced in the film
People really said that? Weird, this actually one of the more realistic plots. Sure, stealth boats and other parts of the film are stupid. But a coup attempt by an army general being backed by a major news corporation, is more realistic than most of the plots in the Moore films and Brosnan's other films.
New Corporation never does it wants a monopoly
Who’d have thought that 25 years after everyone was calling this the most ridiculous bond film plot wise,it would be the most plausible...
Because we have seen how powerful control of the media really is. 1 million Americans died from covid and the US public is still unable to unanimously say the virus was a bad thing.
I always said that Carver is the evil version of Rupert Murdoch.
@@wmlau69 or Soros or Bezos or Xi or hundreds of others callous "world leaders"
@@wmlau69 so just Rupert Murdoch then
Were people really criticising it? It always seemed grounded in reality to me
The media manipulated us into thinking this was the most ridiculous Bond villain.
get a life
The CCP manipulated us into thinking this was ridiculous 😊
He is kind of dumb though. Why would he think that people will use newspapers more if world war 3 started instead of just still using online news sources
You provide the movie, I’ll provide the review.
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"The distance between genius and insanity is measured only by success."
Dang that's deep! Indeed one of the most underrated Bond Villain
It's a fairly common saying to be honest.
@@AFGuidesHD but Jonathan Price's excellent delivery really hammers the point that those who triumph on the most far fetched schemes are often considered as revolutionary thinkers while those who fail are labeled mad-men.
That's what I told my wife. I didn't finish high school and created new two technologies. One for my own business. We made money till she said she wasn't happy.now I'm starting over again. I guess my genius was lost to a stupid reason.
Brilliant. Just brillant like Churchill's quote:
"History is Written by Victors"
Only rings true to a media spin man or politician, someone whose concept of truth lies only in public opinion by the most vocal numbers
1997: "Starting a war for ratings? Pfffft that's insane!"
2022: "Starting a war for ratings and clicks? Yup, sounds plausible."
Yeah, this movie was ahead of its time. And its one of my favorite Bond films.
@@KYExtemperpeople laughed at Bond driving the BMW 7 Series with his phone. Now we are seeing it become reality, if not quite to the dramatic extent in the movie.
2003 comes first to mind.
@@thedoctor007dfw Yeah that Scene was cool :) With the Phone remote control.
A smaller version of that happened in Brazil, a journalist had connections with cartels and he pretty much ordered them to do crimes so that he could boost the views of his "real crime" tv show.
The most criminally underrated Bond villain of all time...and his distance between insanity and genius quote is one of the most profound quotes in any movie. Jonathan Pryce was flawless here!
Yeah he was a really solid villain and I always liked Pierce Brosnan as James Bond too 🤷
These clips make him seem way more cartoony than he is in the film.
A bit like Mark Zuckerberg, just a little disconnected with the normal people in some wacky way.
The entire movie is criminally underrated.
@@danielchae1452 Totally agree. I get some strange looks, when I say that "Tomorrow never dies" is my favorite Bond Movie of the Brosnan Ara.
"Words the new weapons, satellites the new artillery." How prophetic this scene became 😳
satellites have also become the new maps... cause I have never used one of those stupid big paper maps... google maps and GPS is what allows many delivery services... so I guess satellites are jobs for people getting paid less than minimum wage. satellite tv is cool.
tbh when I saw this in theatres as a kid (1986) tbh... I had no idea that James Bond was making anything up at all. Austin Powers I was thinking that... maybe... maybe I would let him shag me baby. 🤪🖖
@@christophermiller3031 You don't even understand the difference between satellites and satnav receivers, a concept that the writers of this particular movie were also wrong about.
Fake media is nothing new, nor is it news to anyone who actually knows history. Only rightwing Trumptards who have no knowledge about anything until one of their loud mouthed pundits cries about it on Faux News think this is something new..
@@johndododoe1411 ...my comment was about my childish interpretation of the scene... Sooo if anything...
Please refelct on why you had to empower yourself by informing me of my stupidity.
Truth is bud, you don't know me at all. 👽🖖
I mean information as power is hardly new. Countries and people have been manipulating the flow of information since the dawn of time. Printing press, radio, television, and internet only made it more obvious. It’s just kinda annoying when movies state an obvious fact and people are like “WOW this movie predicted everything!”
Businessmen buy magazines, the army pays off newspaper for positive coverage, hitler blasted propaganda through radio and kings persecuted intellectuals. What’s new besides an evolved form of media?
"Satellites the new artillery"
James Bond writers: save that for another day
The previous movie already featured a satellite capable of an orbital strike. EMP only but still.
“Save that for another day….”
“Die Another Day, that is”
*Mega Laser Satellite introduces itself*
@@mro4ts457 Die Another Day is the best James Bond movie CMV
Could have sworn they already did that in Diamonds Are Forever.
@@TonkarzOfSolSystem
Honestly one of my favorite bond movies despite the popular hate towards it🤷♂️
For years I've been saying Carver's plan is brilliant and ages the best out of all the Bond villains and nobody believed me. Now I think people are starting to realize how criminally underrated Tomorrow Never Dies is.
Goldeneye is the last great Cold War Bond movie, Tomorrow Never Dies is Bond officially entering the modern world.
Yes i could not have said it better
I wonder if they'll ever go back to something remotely realistic like this instead of the usual "super terrorist wants to gas every city" or something.
@@AFGuidesHD Or something like "Bond, this is your target, find him and destroy him" and it's a game of hunter vs hunted of Bond and bad guy changing positions constantly.
they did in Casino Royale@@AFGuidesHD
@@AFGuidesHD I dunno, funding terrorism (Casino Royale) or hoarding natural resources (Quantum of Solace) were pretty grounded plot devices. Then Skyfall started slowly taking us back to sci-fi, illuminati type plots until we looped back around to nanobots.
“The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.” Now that’s a villain line!
and the key point is if he was successful he would be the hero, not the villain.
@@AFGuidesHD Very true. All the best villains are the heroes of their own story.
Gman level quote of my 😵💫
It's good dialogue
I'm almost sure that literally is something Dr No says in the book
They should have added the part where it is mentioned that Carver is releasing a new software that is intentionally buggy to fore people to upgrade. It is too relevant these days.
Agreed. My bad.
Windows 11 is free! Please update now.
:(
IIRC it has been already relevant by that time, they did not add that line for nothing.
That sort of reminds me of video game developers who lock items and features already in the game that you have to pay extra for instead of actually offering you bonus new content after the game comes out how expansion packs and dlc use to be.
It's a common factor in modern day consumer capitalism. Whereas in days gone by, things were made to last, now things are made to fail after a certain period so you have to buy a new one.
It's crazy looking back at this movie when it first came out. one of the biggest complaints I remember was how the villain was " Weak " and " Hardly a threat " to Bond in comparison to others. But in 2022? Man he looks like the biggest threat there is.
He's Mordock and Elon combined these days.
He was launching missiles to trigger a war, or at the very least armed conflict between Britain and China, and people thought he was "hardly a threat". Wow.
@@MegaVikingen I think after 006 posed both a physical and intellectual threat to Bond audiences expected more of that. In fairness Alec Trevelyan is a hard act to follow as far as Bond villains go.
@@falconeshield
Wow, i didn’t know that Elon controls media and TV
@@falconeshield Elon is James Bond in this case... Comcast, Walt Disney, Charter Communications Inc, Netflix, and Paramount are the ones that own the media and hide how much influence they have on you. They just tried to start World War III 😵💫🚀Russia never fired a missile into Poland. Ukraine on the other hand did. But what did the initial news coverage say?
Ironically he's the most realistic bond villain
This and much of Mathieu Almaric villain in Quantum of Solace is queasily realistic given much of Nestle and Coca-Cola's practices in Many countries
Sanchez from Licensed to Kill was far more "grounded".
I guess Drax from Moonraker is kinda like Elon Musk if he was a Bond villain. But people probably think of Bond villain as cartoony sometimes, but there is legitimate good writing in some of them that makes them relatable to actual real villains with this much power.
It’s Rupert Murdoch
@@RockNRollaMACooh, they should make a Bond film dealing against the abusive food company cartels, child slavery and human trafficking.
"Universal Exports: On His Majesty's Secret Service" would be an appropriate film title on this thematic.
"and Twitter will provide cool objective coverage"
lmao 100% on point is that line. If anyone can remember the amount of WW3 posting was going on when a single drone hit Poland. Imagine the cool and objective posts we'd get if anything like this happened/ happens.
I was actually scared since Zelensky went on an intense warmongering thread calling for Article 5 and the intervention of NATO. Soon we learned the rocket was Ukrainian. 🤦♂️
But that didn't stop US and European Senators fron retweeting and jumping the bandwagon to start WW3. This James Bond Movie is far truer than we let it out to be.
Based AFGuidesHD
Wait, you are here as well? Recently? You-Tube recommendation algorithm is kinda sus.
@@tommykaung5882 to be fair, i think FilmSpeak's Tomorrow Never Dies review sparked reinterest in the movie
@@pilotmanpaul Zelensky is a clown who dances in women's clothing and high heels.
This movie was actually 20 years ahead of its time.
Media manipulation has been around since language
It was exactly of its time. This was a contemporary problem as much as today.
@@VideoAmericanStyle It is far more of a problem today.
@@nickyjames1985 Not to the extent we do today. The speed at which media operates nowadays is incomparable to the past. Like in the movie, the ease of publishing manipulated truths, or blatant lies, have allowed the media to easily control public perception of events.
@@nickyjames1985 Not on this level, this is the information age, there is no time when it is more relevant.
At the time, this movie was decent. Having watched it recently, aged RIDICULOUSLY well. It’s unreal.
Murdock happened.
@@falconeshield Sure did. And now others...
Yeah, the China plot in this movie is literally happening right now with how desperate so many Western companies are to get into their markets.
@@AICW "right now" bruh the China market has been an interest of the West since international trade began lol. People really do think history began in 1945. Even the modern concept of "everything is made in China" was true in 1997.
@@AFGuidesHD Its only become more true since then
I constantly hear people talking about how ridiculous Carver's plan is in this movie and how that makes him a bad Bond villain.
I would argue that first, he's a Bond villain, of course his plan is ridiculous; but aside from that, the fact that what he's doing vs. what he's gaining is so lopsided actually makes him a great, if slightly unusual Bond villain.
Though exaggerated, because once again, he's a Bond villain, this is the kind of stuff real people in power do for comparatively small gains. Carver isn't even necessarily getting any richer off this plan. Really, he just wants attention.
Tomorrow Never Dies is actually one of my favorite Bond movies, and Elliot Carver is a big part of why.
He is getting much richer, though. Exclusive news rights for a century in CHINA. Back then this wasn't a trend, but now Hollywood, the NBA, etc., bend over backwards just to reach the Chinese market. If anything, Carver was way ahead of his time.
Funny thing about Carver’s plan. It’s not as ridiculous as it seems once you understand how the media works. It’s honestly one of the best thought out plans one can come up with. If you control the media, you control everything else because people want to believe the media no matter how fake the news really is. Fake news become reality when it doesn’t get a proper, unbiased fact check.
If only Dalton was playing against Jonathan Pryce''s Carver then the film would be truly great. With Brosnan, the villains were always better than Brosnan's Bond.
To be honest, his plan is actually one of the *most* realistic Bond villain plans in a way.
I don't give a *DAMN* how many more James Bond movies Sean Connery or Daniel Craig starred in, or who likes them more, Pierce Brosnan is - *In My Personal Opinion* - *THE One True* James Bond 007.
That movie has matured like a good wine. It was considered insane and unrealistic at its time, but in fact it was ahead of its time.
And in my humble opinion, has the best Bond Girl of all time.
It's crazy that this came out in 1997. Elliot Carver looks less like a Bond villain and more like any mediocre startup CEO.
Many CEO in the real world are villans!
His clothes are clearly modeled on Steve Jobs.
Fr deadass looks like Steve Jobs
@@jadedandbitter Which is sorta funny but considering that EVERY device you buy from Apple needs to have iTunes to use it, the technocracy in the design is there absolutely. Though the one this is based off is Media Tyccoons such as Robert Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch. Meaning people who own the press and can manipulate it for their benefit, as compared to independent news papers and organizations
@@peternehemiah1606 yep, just like Skyfall villain is based off Julian Assange
"I like the last one, it's not even mine", - "The Empire will Strike Back
Gotta love a Star Wars reference in there
Bragging about how he fooled other media to run with his false facts in the direction he wants.
@@johndododoe1411 indeed
Even of the Falklands War. There was a cover with HMS Hermies titled "The Empire Strikes Back".
"...and you become the new Supreme Allied Commander" was such a fun line when Jonathan Pryce played exactly that in Red Alert 3.
That line is extremely on the nose that to me this was intentional
@@melingdiab6613 Nope, this movie came out in 1997, the game came out at least a decade after, if not more.
@@Gustav_Kuriga yes I know, there is no reason why you had to tell me that
I wonder if they used Jonathan Price for the role just because of that line.
Ha nice one! However the first came in my mind was his part in GI Joe.
I thought this Bond villan was ridiculous at the time but as I get older he just seems more and more plausible.
The media's already doing this for a while, unfortunately. Just read all the news articles mistranslating admiral Luo Yuan's supposed proposal of sinking 2 American aircraft carriers and killing thousands of Americans. What he actually said was that carrier-killing missiles would be a deterrence against American aircraft carriers attacking China, he didn't propose sinking American aircraft carriers at all. Arguing that China should establish a cost-effective capability of sinking aircraft carriers to act as a deterrence is a far cry from proposing to sink American aircraft carriers + killing everyone on board. But I guess the news can't tell the difference though. Plus, the news also don't mention that he's only an admiral in name, and is treated as a joke in China because of his bad ideas. He's not exactly the brightest candle in the room, but he's not the warmonger the news made him out to be.
@@peasantmob1712 Media love 'gotcha' moments. Anything that will stir people's emotions and invoke rage. Rage is the most susceptible of our emotions, it doesn't take too much to upset people these days. You just need the right angle from the media. The media long ago across the West stopped caring about facts and instead concentrated more on trying to incite people.
@Maud'dib nice username reference to dune.
His company today would be called CNN...
@@largol33t1 Actually, the character is based on Robert Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch. But even then, the idea of the villain being a media mogul isn't far out.
“The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.” That quote has always stuck with me.
Why this quote make me remember Elon Musk?
Another quote by Carver that should have been included in the video is “there’s no news like bad news”
I don't understand how this film only has 52% it should at least be 80%.
They ain't as good as Goldeneye but this and the world is not enough are brilliant Bond films (honestly Brosnan and Dalton need more praise they are amazing bonds).
Agreed. For some reson people just dislike Brosnan. Except for his last one, I think his Bond movies are amongst the better ones.
Honestly, I place this movie over Goldeneye (although I see how others could do the reverse.) Brosnan was a great Bond, Dalton as well.
because most people who ever reviewed these movies were kids or young when connery and moore had their tenure and they have nostalgy glasses for those. likewise its easy to see most 90s kids love brosnan or dalton. all these 25 movies are basically the same thing and the margin should at max be 5%. except when you want to make top 100 movies list or whatever and dont want to add 20 identical bonds to the list
Probably too realistic.
@@StuntmanMike88 I still like his last one too. It has a couple of faults: 1) the theme song, and 2) a specific action scene (you probably know which one I'm referring to).
He was so ahead of his time all these years he remained underrated in the public eye. A true worthy villain.
You do get that the reason you got that story is, that propaganda is very, very, very old...
@@miriamweller812 Good point
I loved him. Jonathan Pryce was a criminally underrated villain, and is, a brilliant actor. I had no idea of the significance of the fake news aspect of it until 2020.
He was a present-day commentary on douches like Rupert Murdoch (I feel weary by explaining this, but Rupert Murdoch was a going thing in 1998) and British newspaper mogul Robert Maxwell.
No he wasnt, words and propaganda have been used since the first world wars to start them.
I love that villains have been telling Bond he's too old-fashioned and has no place in this new world for over 25 years, and he proves them wrong every single time.
this really comes to fruition in Skyfall where Bond is old and the villian is a cyber terrorist and Bond still kills him in the end
Kind of reminds me of this quote from Doctor Who:
"The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to primitive attack. People often overlook the obvious."
@@JacF6734 Use a fancy biometric or RFID scanner for door access. But also uses an unshielded electronic door strike which can defeated with a Butter Knife. Keep your eyes pealed, i've found these way too many times.
the new Q berates him for being small beans compared to technology, yet when Silva hacks the MI6 mainframe Bond is the only one able to catch a vital hint among the chaos on screen
@@JohnLutherable Its called bad writing.
The only unrealistic part about this is that Elliot would be a rogue agent instead of a british asset.
Oh he would definitely be a rogue agent, because he would be a Tory. The media and far-right think tanks now control the party, but before Brexit, he would be the rogue agent working with the fringe against the established Cameron camp. And he would be an asset after the coup. He will be the king.
He is a rogue agent, I think his patriotism is sarcastic.
@@dd11111that's what kitos is saying. in real life, he wouldn't be a rogue agent, he'd be a british asset.
But often they are both and that's a common game of the Elite switch around in reality Putin no 2 / Ukraine - Azov - Mossad - ISIS - Hamas - Gaza - Rainbow Velvet Coup d'etats A war that has only one side. But the staged is set by history the big frame lie beforehand. Even silly Truss complained she was kicked out by the deep state. And she was.
"Words are the new weapons. Satellites are the new artillery."
"Then why are you firing missiles from a sub?"
"Okay maybe the old artillery is also the new artillery."
I dont blame Carver for revealing tons of exposition to the characters and us, the audience. It is actually genius, as Carver's emense growth of power and influence over his enemies and the world has made him so impressed of his own work, that it would be insane NOT to brag about it. This Bond movie can be excused in so many ways. It IS THAT Good.
He was based on Robert Maxwell and I like reference that M makes to Moneypenny at the end of the film. Saying how Carver is 'missing presumed drowned on a cruise on his luxury yacht in the South China sea".
His daughter Ghislaine has been in the news recently...
There are elements of Murdock too
@@joetamzarian1817 Yeah let's not be ambiguously cryptic, she's inside for helping to procure under age girls for prolific pedophile Jeffery epstien. 😳
Mossad agent robert maxwell.......
I got huge Murdoch vibes at the time.
Probably helps that Murdoch is so well known as a media identity and would likely be the first person that would come to mind when people saw the movie and thought who it was based on.
This has aged like fine Cognac. 25 Year Vintage an exclusive.
This one's worth a re-watch given the events of the past few years.
This was the very first Bond film I ever saw in theaters as a kid. My dad took me. I loved it. Went back and watched all the old ones. This was right around the time Goldeneye came out for N64. This film will always have a special place in my heart. Ppl like Daniel Craig and that’s fine. I don’t mind him. But Pierce Brosnan is my James Bond. He’s drifted a tank, reverse skydived into a falling plane, Slid a motorcycle one handed under helicopter rotors, destroyed an enemy plane by ejecting a guy into one from underneath, driven a boat underwater as well on an London streets with police behind him, and wind surfed an ice avalanche and explosion. He’s the man lol.
my experience and words exactly. I saw Tomorrow Never Dies in Theatres, and I got interested in all the Bond movies around the time of Goldeneye 64 thanks to my dad knowing about it. I still own all of them on VHS. and now DVD.
@@westingtyler1 hell yeah! Were you really excited waiting for “The World is Not Enough” to come out too?? I know some ppl don’t but I love that one. The score is amazing as well.
@@pab1381 I was super excited waiting for TWINE. I think it shifted away from ambient open stealth and more toward linear action, so I didn't enjoy it as much. from a design perspective, that's when I noticed they just spammed levels with armor pickups, whereeas each Goldeneye level had ONE armor pickup, a sign of good or bad balancing I think. I played pretty much all the bonds up past From Russia With Love, and I loved the grapple hook in multiplayer of Agent Under Fire, though for me nothing feels the same as GoldenEye. I've recently replayed GoldenEye, and it's NOT nostalgia. The design is acatually unique among shooters, and I have big text documents breaking everything down and plan to make my own GoldenEye style game when I can. In the meantime there's one called Agent 64 you can get a demo of for free on Steam, and it feels like a mix between GoldenEye and Perfect Dark. What did you think of Perfect Dark? I also love it and think its multiplayer is god tier, though I prefer the gritty industrial brutalist Cold War vibe of GoldenEye over the "AppleCore" slick plastic futuristic vibe of Perfect Dark.
I agree my two favorite Bonds were played by Bronson and Dalton!!
I liked Die Another Day because it showed Bond being captured, tortured and vulnerable and then not being trusted on release. You didn't really see Bond like that, back then.
Also I barely played N64 but when I did I loved Goldeneye because I found most multiplayer shooters so inaccessible and I'd end up giving up before I ever had a chance to learn but with Goldeneye it was so easy to pick up and play and I was instantly no better/worse than any of my friends.
Watching this again, I thought Goldeneye was way far in front as a better movie, but I must say, this movie has aged incredibly well and it's a lot closer than I thought. GoldenEye was personal, and this was global, but both were very good. Jonathan Pryce is incredible in every scene he's in just like Sean Bean.
So futuristic and ahead of times, especially that line The distance between insanity and genius can only be measured by success.
You forgot to write genius.
@@hansolo235 thank you
Not really futuristic. Media bias has always been a thing.
"The difference between insanity and genius is measured only by success." That's a good quote.
Every time I watch this movie, I think of my father who used to read the Baltimore Sun everyday up until his last breathe! He also believed everything that was broadcasted on television. He was a great man - a B29 gunner during WW2 and a man who could fix anything but when it came to the news, he was nothing but one of the sheep! This movie always hit a nerve with me because even though it didn’t strike a nerve with the younger generation, some of us who were born late got the punch line!
I'm particularly interested in this phenomenon because I see my parents, completely part of the herd from anyone that tells them what they want to hear, and follow blindly (and share those news blindly).
What is the age/generation that is aware of the manipulation? Will I become a victim unbeknownst to me on the future? Am I really as self-aware as I think?.
Anyway, musings from the cotidiano
@@nairocamilo It starts from as soon as your able to think. Ideas are slowly spoonfed to you from birth and every year since. Everyone can and will be manipulated by what they see and experience. The only difference is if you let it. Question everything.
I only recently did that and it doesn't gain me any favours with people. A lot of people assume your paranoid or worse, but I disagree. Look at the world we live in now. Is it too much of a stretch to assume that a government will orchestrate an atrocity to further their own agenda while the masses believe it unconditionally?
As an infamous Austrian and his cronies once said; the battle for the mind starts in the cradle.
@@nairocamilo I think especially soldiers are extra susceptible to believing anything they hear from the media, it could be a carry-over from military conditioning. Especially American military and police condition absolute obedience, and this might very well extend to the news since they usually present themselves as "trusted state media" which could be interpreted as "the voice of the government".
@@nairocamilo The problem is that so many people THINK they're cynical and insightful when they're not. See: every conspiracy theorist who mocks you for "trusting the MSM" while blindly trusting whatever the latest QAnon babble happens to be.
The thing is, one needs to be careful when recognising how manipulated the news can be, that we don't fall prey to the other side of the coin.
There are people that seek to 'empower' those that realise how manipulated the news can get and then proceed to manipulate them, for their own devious ends and some don't even realise that they are still being manipulated but just by different sources.
Consume all news but use your common sense to work out what's real and be careful not to fall into a trap of either blindly following traditional news or blindly believing everything that isn't traditional news.
Villains that aged A LITTLE too well
“The distance between genius and insanity is measured only by success.”
Now THAT is a quote I’d agree with
Well one can still personally succeed and ruin everything else at the same time, so they're still insane.
Price normally plays a slightly bumbling character so it’s great seeing him play a solid confident villain.
He was very captivating in his role as a religious leader in Game of Thrones, as well - though he's in one of the worst seasons.
"and you become the new allied supreme commander" Cue Red Alert 3 intro. He got to live his dream!
A villain ahead of his time, and one of the best Bond Girls ever. Tomorrow Never Dies truly deserves some new appreciation.
Funny people used to call him the most cartoonish of all the bonds with the wackiest of gadgets. But he was always the most Stone Cold killer of all the bonds. Watching and commit cold-blooded murder in this movie when he killed the Hitman was brutal as hell. And in so many movies you see him just pulled the trigger with an ice cold look that the other Bond simply don't succeed with.
Hahaha love Bond's corny lines. "Sorry Elliot, I uh...tuned out there for a minute." *smirk
I remember this documentary.
Before the Craig era, TND was my favourite Bond film hands down. The music alone is magnificent when you think is was Arnold’s first gig. Brosnan’s into the role, the villain is slimy but his plan plausible for once and the action is awesome. The opening scene is tremendous as is the car park chase.
You liked Craig more than Brosnan?? 👀
@@MrNicoJac I think I do yeah. Casino Royale blew me away. QoS was edited by a madman but is a guilty pleasure. Skyfall is great, Spectre okay and NTTD has great moments. When I try and watch Brosnan now some of it hasn’t aged well at all, certainly not in Die Another Day. He’ll always have a place as I grew up watching his tenture over and over and over and maybe there’s recency bias, but Craig’s era steals it.
@@theblackwhisper
What blew you away about Casino Royale?
I really didn't like it - so maybe seeing it through your eyes can open mine to what I'm missing, haha :)
(I think I just really missed Brosnan - to me, he was the perfect balance between sarcasm, toughness, and smart solutions - oh, and the best/most-advanced gadgets of course)
@@MrNicoJac I honestly went in with low expectations. I loved DAD at the time and I’d seen all this stuff about the new guy and was just like he’s nowhere near as suave as Brosnan. But from that cold opening showing how Bond gets his double 00 shot in black & white, the You Know My Name song (I was already a Chris Cornell fan) and that construction site chase, I was hooked. The rest was just gravy. Eva Green makes for a stunning Bond girl, their chemistry is great, the dialogue is witty and plays with what we know (“shaken or stirred?” “do I look like I give a damn”) the plot much like TND is grounded in reality, the score by Arnold is off the charts (listen to African Rundown, Blunt Instrument and Vesper from the score) and the action just never lets up. Craig’s Bond was raw, unapologetic and from that point on I loved his portrayal. Pierce was a victim of the 90s where his Bond never evolved but Craig’s was able to during his five films. CR is not just my favourite Bond film, it’s probably my favourite of all time.
@@MrNicoJac Probably one of the best trailers made. I forgot to mention that torture scene and how Bond interacts with M. It’s just gold.
I remember thinking this plot was ridiculous at the time but here we are. 😭
Can’t say there are too many movies that actually age BETTER than the time they were released.
Media bias has always been around.
@@right_hand_power7960 *_"Media bias has always been around."_* The bias has gotten worse over time. Liberal media is especially guilty of this.
Tomorrow never dies and Metal Gear Solid 2 the most prophetic material ever.
Eliot Carver is my favorite bond villain. I think Jonathan Pryce knew exactly how to play him. He's just campy enough that he comes off as eccentric and not ridiculous and given his plan and his profession he would be on the eccentric side.
I love how has that air of pathetic desperation, like he's begging for everyone's attention at all times.
Holy crap the accuracy. It's like watching Idiocracy ten years later
This is like a real-life documentary on the media 😂
Certainly the ones owned by a single media mogul like Murdoch.
Media aren't corrupt enough in the film. :I
I always liked Tomorrow Never Dies as my favorite Brosnan era film. Even more than Goldeneye. I found its villain to be a nice twisted callback to the Dastardly Bad Guys of Bond Past. Throw in one of the most kickass Bond Girls in the entire series, some classic action, such as the motorcycle tandem chase... great Bond one liners, and a plot that doesnt take itself as seriously as Die Another Day or The World is not Enough.
Die Another Day was more of a dumb Saturday morning cartoon than a Bond movie
Die Another Day was not taken seriously at all, what are you talking about? An ice fortress that melts from a satellite? Bond surfing on a tidal wave? The movie was a joke. Goldeneye, The World is Not Enough, and Tomorrow Never Dies is the Brosnan trilogy, "Die Another Day" doesn't even exist as far as I'm concerned.
@@bud389 I meant that it acted serious, but utterly failed.
"The distance between insanity and genius, is measured only by success".
Wow
Rupert Murdoch personified. The most accurate real life Bond villain ever
I would say he’s the personification of all mainstream media outlets nowadays. They are all for headlines and getting “the first” out. They thrive on controversy and strife to stay relevant.
@@frostfang7670 Liberal mainstream media serves the status quo, right wing mainstream media is actually insane, evil in some cases. Like yeah CNN can do bullshit journalism but atleast they're not slowing turning their viewers into active terrorists against gay and Trans people
The irony of this comment is unlike I have ever seen.
There are media barons in the real world who have pulled similar schemes and succeeded. Wasn't there such an incident where an American ship was felled, and the press whipped up a war - and years later it was discovered the ship sank due to technical failings?
Yes, the USS Maddox. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a complete framing at the time. The war in question was the Vietnam War. What an absolute dusgrace.
Tomorrow Never Dies was the first Bond film I saw, and I loved it as a kid! Instant favourite. I always thought I was looking at it through rose-tinted lenses as I got a little older. But now that I'm an adult, I realize that it really is a great movie. Yes, it has problems, but Carver is probably one of the most realistic Bond villains in his goals. His methods are outlandish, but not wholly unrealistic too.
Jonathan Pryce never performs any role less than 110%, no matter what it is. Outstanding actor.
This aged WONDERFULLY
The only unrealistic part in this is that the UK would dare declare war on China.
Yeah apparently most countries are not suicidal! But then again expecting realistic politics from a James Bond movie is like asking the sun to explode
Yeah, plus unrealistic things about James bond movies are that UK actively contributed alot in cold war.
This movie was made in the shadow of the Hong Kong Handover in 1997, perhaps not plausible but the UK and China having some tension between them was quite current for the movie at the time and it's playing in on that ripped-from-the-headlines reality.
In the 90s china was no where near the military powerhouse it is today
Chine was a paper tiger then and it's a paper tiger now.
It's eerie how quickly this fiction became a reality! This film was released in 1997 now 26 years later the dystopian warning has come true!
“You really are quite insane” I absolutely love that line, it’s just classic Brosnan bond.
the fact that youtube felt the need to put a "context" banner on this vid, says a lot about TH-cam
How dare we talk about things the "elites" openly admit on their official websites that they want.
'The Empire will strike back.' lol, at least they knew how to write headlines.
This film was way ahead of its time, despite being released at the end of the last century.
This is why Tomorrow Never Dies is one of my favourite Bond films. As fictional as it is at times, you could imagine someone like Murdoch doing something like this.
Wow, I had no idea Murdoch owns ABC , MSNBC , CNN, BBC, NBC, CBS, PBS and Fox?
@@davyboy9397
He only owns Fox,
@@AureliusLaurentius1099 I know, I was being sarcastic. I think he actually owns Sky News and The Sun too. But the OP is acting like Murdoch is the only bad guy in town when in fact he is a tiny percentage of the media propaganda
All news networks do this, and have had bias through their history.
The distance between a film story and reality is measured with time.
What's funny is this is longer fictional, it's now reality
This might be my favorite Bond movie. This movie was far more clever than people would have given it credit for, and the story is far more relevant now than it was back then.
As loudmouthed as Ted Turner, as megalomaniac as Rupert Murdoch.
Elliot Carver wasn't just a Bond villain, he was the villain who could be rightly described as "the biggest threat to world peace even in real life".
The biggest problem with this movie can be explained in two words: stealth boat.
Why? They exist.
this movie tried to tell you something, in the 90s
Glad I wasn't the only one who kept coming back to this scene in relation to today's media.
"The Empire WILL Strike Back"
"I like the last one. It isn't even mine"
I see what they did there
This guy is the physical embodiment of Facebook
Ofc my original comment gets hidden lol. Censorship
My stepfather always particularly enjoyed this one, I think he's always felt that newspapers spread a degree of fear and disinformation and now I know what he's talking about.
If you mix Joseph Goebbels, Robert Maxwell, Rupert Murdoch and Mark Zuckerberg in a blinder you get Elliot Carver.
This film is good but ages even better each day.
Has always been my favourite Bond film. The RC BMW chase scene was great, along with the opening scene with the jets. I also really liked that the villain had a real personality and real motivations and wasn’t just a complete lunatic that wanted to blow up the word for no reason
💯-the list of things going for it keep stacking up the longer you think about it; I even wore out the soundtrack CD on road trips
I had always said that Goldeneye was my favorite, but the more I think about it, the stronger this one stacks up. Pryce is a pitch perfect Bond villain, the cold open is flawless, and Michelle Yeoh makes everything she touches better.
I always enjoyed this movie a lot when I was younger, but this kind of stuff flew over my head. Now it's arguably my favorite part
I was a teenager at the time. Just starting to be able to grasp these concepts. I appreciate this villainous plan far more now. Sadly the real world has even more decrepit plans.
How cool it would've been if Dr fate will be this young again in the future movies but Mr brosnan aged like a perfectly
The real theme song for Tomorrow Never Dies is 'Surrender' by K D Lang. Its lyrics are spot on for this villian and the media in general. The song was swapped at the last minute for the boring Sheryl Crow theme at the start, so it plays during the end credits instead and the entire film score is written around it. You should check it out!
Crow's song is great euat are you on about
If there is a blue Context box under the video, then you know that those who think that they own you are worried that you might start thinking for yourself.
If we were to reboot the movie today, the villains would be the journalists and TH-camrs who cultivate fake news.
"The difference between genius and insanity is measured only by success."
Holy shit, I never thought I'd see a Bond villain be this based
"There in lies your problem Mr. Bond. You failed to appreciate sarcasms."
This was a film poking fun at but also warning us of FOX NEWS which was at the time gaining traction. Elliot Carver is Rupert Murdoch.
Oh how wrong you been. It’s a depiction of all media how we can be deceived the new war is not militarily it is information
Elliot Carver is basically CNN.
Tomorrow Never Dies and License To Kill are the most underrated Bond films. Carver is one of my favorite 007 villains.
Michelle Yeoh was quite the action actress in this movie. I loved her character; confident and capable.
The media's already doing this for a while, unfortunately. Just read all the news articles mistranslating admiral Luo Yuan's supposed proposal of sinking 2 American aircraft carriers and killing thousands of Americans. What he actually said was that carrier-killing missiles would be a deterrence against American aircraft carriers attacking China, he didn't propose sinking American aircraft carriers at all. Arguing that China should establish a cost-effective capability of sinking American aircraft carriers to act as a deterrence in a hypothetical scenario of America declaring war.... is a far cry from arguing to outright attack American aircraft carriers + killing everyone on board in real life during a time when there is no war. But I guess the news can't tell the difference though. Plus, the news also don't mention that he's only an admiral in name, and is treated as a joke in China because of his bad ideas.
Elliot wasn’t wrong…
Never thought Stave Jobs role a Bond villain before, the man truly have a particular life.
he was also the first man to die of Ligma
@@DeanorThe13th , that is because the treatment gave him AIDS . He should have just stuck to conventional medicine.
@@DeanorThe13thwhat's a man?
"The Empire Will Strike Back"
Looks like one of his employees must've been a massive Star Wars fan.
Michelle Yeoh and that motorcycle sequence is iconic. This film has always been great. And the villain is one of the absolute scariest. 💙
Dude is literally Klaus Schwab.
We used to think villains with plots like this were hokey and childish, but that's only because we assumed the public at large was smarter than they truly are. After the last couple years since 2020, if one thing has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be true, it's that not only is this bond villain believable, but there are dozens of him scattered around the globe, enacting this plan regularly, and with precision in order to convince people the world around them is different from what it actually is.
BAHAHAHA You think the bond villain is Klaus Schwab. The fact you know what he looks like and his name already makes that wrong. The real villains in the world are Faceless.
@@Neojhun the real villains are faceless huh? Just like epstein was?
@@bud389 Very much soo, the public had no clue who he was until he got caught too many times. He did his work in the shadows for decades. Seems like you forgot the facts of that case.
@@Neojhun yea, except they did know who he was, he just wasn't widely known. Trump talked about him openly decades ago. Try again.
@@bud389 Trump talked about him openly decades ago, sure as a friend he was networking with. Kind of weird omission.
When I saw this as a kid it was instantly one of my favourites as it just felt so plausible
It's incredible how well this film and it's main villain have aged. Elliot Carver seemed ridiculous when I first saw this movie; now, after having seen how corrupt our mainstream media is, how deluded and egotistical they can be, it all makes sense.
The “ context “ badge on this video is hilarious and shows exactly how ridiculous they are.
God, we're living in a Bond film.