What Can it Power? Harbor Freight Predator 2000 Generator
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I have owned mine almost six months, I am a van dweller in central Florida and have run a 5000 BTU ac all summer for a minimum of 9 hours a day and it has performed flawlessly and runs my microwave with ease... Just keep the oil changed and replace spark plug and it will run quiet clean, just don't try to power high wattage tools with a cheap extension cord.
The AC unit in my coleman is 8,000 BTU, it runs that great, but not the microwave.
I think your'e review is the number one review on harbor freight for this generator! I myself really want this one and the new 3500W inverter generator and run them with a parallel kit if need be. Or have a small one or large one as needed.
+Ryan Cox the 3500 is only $200 more, I have been looking at that also!
Maybe you should consider doing a video test too,,and post it on You Tube! Information is always nice before people spend hard-earned money on junk!
Thats what im saying i seen them power air units none stop
Excellent video! I bought a Predator 2000 at Harbor Freight this afternoon.
I was camping with my son last year in a little bigger trailer up in Oregon mountains. He has exact unit and it powered his heat at night, tv, microwave, electrical gadgets etc. You just can’t use them all at same time. Much quieter then a generator. Was running all night for heat and could barely hear it inside. They also use for job sites to power tools. I plan to buy one this year.
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I think you actually tripped the thermal overload on the microwave because you didn't run anything inside of the microwave , always at least put a cup of water . That microwave couldn't have been more than a 1000 watts
My microwave (400 watts) only runs for about 15 seconds before overload. What a piece of junk!
Just saying as an industrial systems technician, Kill-o-Watt (spelling? ) meters (about $20 on Amazon ) are God's gift to the world. If you want to know how much power a 110 volt appliance uses over a period of time, hours, days, best thing for the money ever.
I've got the wen version of this gen..512 hours. I put 1 gallon in it at 8pm....730 am still running on light load! O2 generator, fans, pc. Mine does power microwave. Also I use it daily until my solar power is up and running.
My Predator 2000 runs the microwave in my boat just fine, but so did the old Honda 1000 I used to use. It's a small MW. A better test with the saws would be to actually cut something, they do draw more amps when loaded. That being said, I really like the reset button on this unit. With the Honda 1000 you have the shut it off and restart when it overloads.
Just bought one of these today. Cant wait to use it, but only if I need it for power outage, etc. Thanks for the great video.
Keep in mind that the small/long extension cords may be limiting the units ability to run these appliances. I suggest doing a test with a 30amp power cable with a yellow adapter. The adapter can be purchased at any hardware strore.
it might help if you used a shorter extention cord and at least 12 gauge
Yeah I agree, this is a huge difference
I have a 50 feet extension on mine and it works just fine.
But, it's scientifically proven that it will OBVIOUSLY work BETTER with a higher gauge, and shorter cord. Period.
@@fishrowe420 Exactly..., basic electrical mathematics.
Answers I was looking for. Thanks a ton
Looks like 2000 watts isn't going to cut it for me, thanks for the video it was very helpful!
Turning refrigeration units does not cause them to draw more power. The refrigerator will run longer before it cycles off.
The AC will draw slightly more on high due to the higher fan speed, but that will be minor. The big draw is the compressir.
I mostly use a 12 amp electric lawnmower with the 13 amp max Predator 2000. The lawnmower is a light weight 30 lbs and easy to handle and very gasoline fuel efficient using this power source. I've also powered a small table top ice maker for the cooler ice box usage..thanks for your info
The DeWalt may run if you use a shorter extension cord.
I made a second video on this genny testing tools under load and from my tests, the extension cord did not make any difference with the Dewalt miter saw. (It still did not run directly plugged in)
Power Tool Test
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
I also tested all tools with and without a 50 ft. extension cord cutting material under load. I did not notice any difference with or without the cord.
Almost got the HF 2000 but yesterday I ended up with a Champion 2000 for $400.. I didn't expect it to run my 1350 btu air cond and it wont but it will run the rv inverter the fridge and microwave at the same time. I may end up with the HF 3500 when its on sale but most of the time it would be for home use because if I don't need AC in my rv then I don't want to move 100 LBS around and the 2000 watt sips gas. I will say the HF seems loud and that wouldn't go over well at campsites but I could be wrong about that.. Thanks for the video.
Hey bud put the esc mode on and try the chop saw again,I have the same generator and moves the miter saw with the esc mode on
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This was a good test using the extension cord. Performance should be even better with a short 12 ga. I'm glad you gave it a small handicap.
Thanks. Be helpful to know what wattage your appliances and stuff are. I assume it's a funny thousand AC, which I read pulls 500 watts, not sure about the whole startup or surge wattage thing on certain appliances. Smallest microwaves are like 700 Watts? So that should do well. Do you know what yours is. I keep adding up Watts the things I want to do period. I can't find the surge are starting Watts on a lot of things. Interesting. Really want to go with these smaller 2000 / 2200 vs the 3500. Not sure.
It probably would run the microwave if you slipped the converter breaker off. Charging the trailer battery and micro at same time was too much for it.
That generator is rated at 1600 watts continuous and 2000 watts surge, so figuring current output at 110V (P = EI, or I = P/E, or, by substitution I = 1600/110 then I = 14.5 Amperes (P in watts, I in amperes and E in volts)) which is roughly equivalent to a standard home 15 amp circuit. It should be able to run anything that will run plugged into a home or shop 15 amp outlet.
Hey Richard, I am thinking of this generator to SEPARATELY run a small office refrigerator and microwave oven in case of a power outage (yes, I'm in California). I am surprised that his test with microwave oven FAILED. I thought those microwave ovens were 1000-1100 watts. By Ohms Law, You state that the Predator 2000 should be able to run the microwave oven?
@@robertng9330 Yes, it should .... but real world conditions could make a great difference in delivered power .... like the length and size of the extension cord(s). Also, there are surge currents at start up, especially, that will also figure in, and the condition of the circuit breaker which also sometimes is calibrated below average or max to guarantee protection of the generator. Waveform is another consideration, as the switching supplies may distort the AC waveform depending on design, load and quality factors. I have not run that particular generator but have run tests on my Honda ES-6500 that I use for ham radio field day and it will vary greatly with different equipment of similar types and the power supplies each of them use. One way to find out is to insert a good quality wattmeter in the generator output line and more precisely measure the output current with that. An ammeter could also be used, along with an accurate AC voltmeter, to calculate the power output via Ohms law. You,re interested in the power at the output of the generator to see what it's actually putting out when the breaker trips since the length (resistance) of the output power line to the appliance will also suck up some power, as well as the distance from the generator to the appliance. I always try to put my generator as far away from the radio shack as I can to cut down on generator noise. Many folks will use small diameter (higher gauge) extension cords to connect things up and that's not good ... the smaller the gauge, the larger the wire (10 gauge is larger than 14 gauge, for example). Note that some generators use fuses, usually slow blow, that can take a reasonable duration of surge current without blowing ... some circuit breakers work in a similar fashion, but some do not and will pop at with relatively short term surges. Continued breaking of circuit breakers can also weaken them and inhibit their effectiveness and should be replaced. I've also found that most published ratings on low-end consumer generators are somewhat optimistic and, in practice, fall short of them, more or less, but often vary all over the place depending on quality of design, components and build. Also, my example calculations of 110V should probably be at 117 or 120 since that's more like the real normal voltage although the principle is the same and the law (Ohms) is inviolate and absolute. :-)
@@robertng9330 Check into an inverter Microwave... doesn't have peaks and valleys, has flat line power usage. They supposedly work great with solar gens and gas gens.
@@rjugelthank you for this detailed explanation, it’s not every day we get to learn from an expert on their topic.
Starting draw of loads is as a rule one and a half times of rated amps, amps times volts equal watts (Ohms law), all of these "tests" could be predicted by using it (Ohms law). Next, using a small gauge conductor 50 foot power cord de-rates the output as well by causing higher loads, doing do induces "line drop", actual loads being read by the generator may be as high as +50% over a shorter, larger gauge conductor cord or even better, no cord. plug loads directly to generator, not only are the cords hard on the generator but the tool or appliance as well.
MerlinxPV Not to be pedantic, but that's Watt's Law you're thinking of. Ohm's Law defines the relationship between resistance, electromotive force (voltage), and current (amperage).
Awesome! Thanks for the video. I'm looking for it to power two 1000 watt flood lights for fishing. Thanks and Tight Lines and Full Limits To Ya. 🎣
Hi there, really the air compressor was running at all capacity? Filled the 6 gal tank and 150 psi? It is true I’ll buy one of these. Wait for your answer. Thnx
Thank you for the video I was pretty sure the tools wouldn’t run as a matter fact several years ago at a large generator that ended up frying my tile saw it thanks for the video buddy take care
Happy you enjoyed!
if you shut down the ac, it should power the microwave. you need at leastn of 3k watts, which is about equal to a 30 amp rv. 2k is pushing it
Thanks for this video I have been wondering if it would run an AC so I'm going to go buy it now for my enclosed trailer that we take camping and motor biking
During a power outage my 2000 w generator runs refrigerator, Internet, iPad, and fans. Hopefully it can handle a Keurig or hot plate if one is the only device powered.
For microwave, turn off all breakers except microwave while running it. Works fine.
Lowering the power level of the microwave to about 50% works. Food takes a bit longer to cook but it won't cut out
great video thanks for doing the leg-work for me
Hi, thank you very much for the review.
Did you make all these tests while the generator was at ECONOMY mode, or REGULAR?
Thanks again,
Moses
I was hoping to see a skillsaw under heavy load , still informative 👍🏻
I had a little camper once, but everyone complained so I traded it for a 34 footer, I wish I still had the little one.
You should include relevant information like how many watts each appliance is listed at. So if I can find a lower wattage microwave it might run that.
This is the shower room only, vanity is outside the door
3000k watts will run a 30 amp rv comfortably without having to shut things off to run something else. also use a shorter 10 guage power cord. 16guage is too thin and it wil make a huge difference.
What was that microwave rated at? I feel like it should have been able.
I just changed the recoil assembly on mine because my cord broke and suddenly its overloading with only a 650 W Black Decker coffee maker. It was handling it just fine before. What would cause it to suddenly start overloading on such low wattage? Really strange. Currently it still runs fine with my laptop and phone on it.
I think a direct plug in from the power tools to the generator would work, except the miter saw though, that has a 15 amp motor.
Will the saws keep running if you start putting a load on them? Rip a 2x4??
If you use a thicker Gage extension cord it will probably run all your tools.
I tried direct hookup on my follow up video and all results were the same. Click below:
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
Perfect video, I should definitely gets the 3500 then, thAnk you
I'm a newb with RVd and generator stuff....what is plugged into the power cable just before the generator??
That's for an RV
So I have an AC that the overload Light Blinks for about 15Seconds But never stops producing power so is this SAFE?
get the 3500 the extra juice is nice
BELIEVE I READ THE BIGGER ONE IS EVEN quieter.
My 2000 generator turns off after 30 minutes with the AC and refer running 🤔😳.. you need to let it run more time to make sure it works
If I'm running a 5000watt AC and the genny runs out of gas, will it cause sny damage to the AC or the genny?
I understand you shouldn't run a microwave without something in to cook. I'm surprise that the generator wouldn't handle it, could also be your cord either not big enough gauge and/or too long. I just looked again, yep, your cord gauge is too small...you need a shorter and maybe a 10 or 12 gauge.
My thoughts exactly!!
I have a 120-volt on a carpet extractor portable do you think it will work on that
my exact questions answered. I got the same size travel trailer will be boondockin this spring due to the covid.
You are using an unnecessarily long extension cord. You could do more with a shorter cord, and one with larger guage wires.
There is a part two of this video without any extension cords.
What is the rated watts for the microwave? Most only use about 1000-1100 watts. Any chance something else was running in the background like a battery charger? Its pretty typical for HF to exaggerate the wattage of their electrical generators. I have a 2500 watt HF inverter that can't even operate a small skill saw. The saw is about 1200 watts.
How many watts or btu is that AC? Pretty good
Doe the red light flash when you first start yours?
What type of adapter you used to plug in your rv ??????
Does it have a 30 amp outlet to plug in the RV or is it just two 110 plugs
How many watts is your microwave
Wished I had see your video last week before blowing 499.95 on this pile. No worries it is going back this weekend.
I’m surprise it even power what it did with that 100 foot 16 gauge extension cord
No extension cords plug straight into generator it will run saws
,I found out that a 12 CUP regular coffee maker t pulls a lot of electricity,so ? will it make the coffee?
I seen them power portable air units lights etc
so, I'm curious... would most inverter generators with the same specs run the same way? in other words, does it really matter on the brand if the running watts are the same?
+Eddie Regory I'm not certain, but I would imagine so. The only difference would be the sound of the generator.
This is a direct competitor to the name brand Honda generator of similar capacity that have excellent reviews, however, they'll cost you several hundred dollars more.
Do you think I will power a electric pressure washer
Thanks for this. I was going to buy this version to run my microwave in my toy hauler.
👍 I'm happy this video helped and thanks for watching!
@@LandbergTileTV I am thinking of this generator to SEPARATELY run a small office refrigerator and microwave oven. I am surprised that it did not run your microwave. I thought those microwave ovens were 1000-1100 watts. Isn't this generator rated at 1600 watts "running". Please confirm before I make the purchase.
@@robertng9330 that's what I was wondering. Course he doesn't say the wattage on it. I see the smallest microwaves being like 700 Watts I believe. That should be fine... Assuming start-up wattage, which I'm not seeing or knowing much about a lot of these things, isn't too much higher.
Might have powered the microwave if you had a larger and shorter extension cord to much power loss
You have a cap load of voltage drop using that skinny/long extension cord.
Yes, but I don't think the cap load voltage drop will make much of a difference with the trailer appliances running simultaneously and tested numerous tools without the extension cord on this updated video! (The compound miter saw still did not run)
(Power Tool Test! Harbor Freight Predator 2000 Inverter Generator)
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
Loud man ! Only thing I see wrong with it
Yup! Very loud under a lot of load!👊
Nice high-def video I'm actually getting dizzy from it lol
What gauge extension cord was you using a 12 gauge extension cord it going to be pushing it when it comes to power tools I find that using a 10 gauge extension cord works much better when delivering power to power tools from the generator
I believe it was a 12 g extension cord. I tested that 12 inch compound miter saw hooked directly up to the generator and it still did not power/run. You can watch that video here.
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
We have used the th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
what do you use your compressor for? Does that thing run a nail gun or a paint sprayer or something?
Yes, this can run a compressor and paint sprayer. You should check out the Dewalt Power station, it runs those also. 👊
Yo - just turning the device on does NOT mean UNDER LOAD it can handle the "work" all you're doing is testing the sine wave output to meet the inrush and NO-Load condition of the AC motor - get it?!~
Will this run a waffle maker at 1100 watts for 4 hours? Furthermore, in addition to that a heat lamp at 500 watts? Totaling 1600 watts which is the running max of this generator. Thanks in advance
Highly doubtful it will run that kind of load continuously. You will be better off with a much larger generator.
Will it run the ac and frig at the same time?
+LizzyBee AnAddedTouch no, this only runs the 8000 bcu ac unit or the fridge separately. It does not run them simultaneously. I bought a Furman 3100 inverter generator and will test it after I break it in and post a video on those test results soon!
I used a large extension cord and I tried to use my hand drill Black & Decker..
Hi. What about the heater in your travel trailer? I also have a small tt Rpod. I bought the Predator to run the heater on the Rpod. Will it work?
That's a great question, I'm not quite sure...
I have two of them with a paralell kit
Sweet! Great little machine. 👊
Your long extension cord is acting like a huge resistor you need a lower gauge size for appliances that need those amps
I thought the same thing so I made an update video: th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
Landberg Tile TV I saw the vid, awesome job on the test thank you I’m thinking of getting either one of these or the wen 2350
Starting and running those saws with no load on them doesn't mean that genny will power them. Try cutting some wood or tile and watch that genny shut down immediately. I'm not saying it's not a good generator. It's just not intended for those applications.
You are wrong my friend. Below is my update tool test video and the genny runs every tool other than the Dewalt 12 inch miter saw.
Predator 2000 Power Tool Test:
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
How about a 5hp shop vac
Yes, will power that for sure.
Funny how much Lowder it is on video. In person it's so much quieter
Why not try reading the spec on the items before testing, this should give an idea, and then you can go ahead and see if it is out of max spec or any use spec.
and did you put saws under a load, never seen it in video and that will make a difference
also what size was micro
I don't know was size/wattage the microwave is. I'll check and update you on that.
Update video with saws under load, hope this helps. Also, I can't find the specs on the microwave...
th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
How long do these generators last for? With proper break in and what have you...
I've had mine for 7 years, just now experiencing a problem, runs for 6 hours and shuts off. Trying to find out what's wrong now. I'm thinking there may be a hose in the fuel tank loose, not sure yet.
What adapter did you use for the trailer to plug in to the generator
Just a standard adapter to fit the trailer plug. Amazon, $4.00
Is it the standard 15amp to 30 volt adapter? The front of the generator says 13 max.
Boggle down lol 😆
will it run a full size fridge and 55 inch led tv with directv
No - it might run a Hitachi Magic Wand vibrator though.
hah! Wish it would..
@@Avalanche2 🤣😅🤣
What size generator do I need to run a ninja blender ? Making smoothies (to sell) on the street 😋 ?
How much is a patriot generator cost
Did it power ac and refrigerator together or you did individual tests?
Wish he would of answered this questions.
2 tools together please
Great!
How many btu is the ac ?
Better get seveal generators if u want to use those appliances simultaneously lol
Great video..
however.. sad how companies make money from generators that can't power microwave ovens ... ?!?
If you had to gauge...how many running watts will this run...
Most of these 2000 watt gennys have running watts around 1600 watts, or a little over 13 amps available. Not bad. Be sure to do a proper break-in before you load it up like this, though. Usually they say not to exceed 1/2 the rated watts during the break-in period. Good advice.
Just because the saw come on doesn't mean it will power it. Cutting material will load the electric motor and draw way more watts/amps.
I did more testing on it here: th-cam.com/video/kVAn7Nlsftk/w-d-xo.html
@@LandbergTileTV I'm not gonna argue it's a decent generator bro. But I'm just saying free speed on a saw is totally different than throwing that same saw into raw green oak. It's gonna load hard. Plus. Depends on saw teeth sharpness also. That's all I meant.
Could mean the difference between a "any saw" drawing 10-25 amps. That's alot.
It goes into overload after 10min of running