I work in disaster areas so I go long stretches without grid power. I use a Ryzen 5 4500U HP 15" foldable laptop where I installed 32GB of 3200MHz ram for all my work and play. My whole office setup is ran off of a 100W solar panel with a 340 watt storage battery. The laptop runs GTA V at 1080p 60fps. I have an extra 100W panel but I haven't needed it yet, after dark I have a good 4+ hours of game play
@@peppernickelly Damn great info thanks Pepper! I've been studying up on a lower wattage setup as well. Right now I'm using a laptop with a dedicated GPU but would like to use something that can run games off of
@@apfelschorle1988 Yes, and apparently it will have up to 12 RDNA 2 cores. Which if true will be 4 more cores than the Steam Deck has. Plus it's using ZEN 3 architecture. The future for SFF gaming is bright.
@@malathomas6141 the Steam Deck has 50GB/s memory bandwidth, that's going to be hard to match in normal system even with first gen DDR5. The iGPU will have more power but still be bandwidth limited, it'll probably allow higher settings at 1080P than Steam Deck though.
Cyberpunk performance is impressive as hell. I've got an i5 6300 HQ w/GTX 960M that can't do that well. It really needs 8 threads, I'm CPU limited but the GPU is still a tad faster than the integrated video. That APU would definitely be a better choice if my primary deciding factor was Cyberpunk. Integrated video has made serious gains.
Amazing being an APU enthusiast and then watching AMD APUs grow in every generation of APUs. Currently running 3400g and still planning to upgrade to 5700g. Let's see how the next gen will do.
@Nchuzi Ikachana oh I'm sorry. APU prices are too pricey at the time. So I pretty much had to move to i3-12100 + gtx 1660 super for the meantime. If you're asking for performance of the 5700g in gaming expect 720p and occasional 1080p low to mid settings depending on the game.
@@jeanfranco8272 Oof where were you shopping that a GPU/CPU combo was cheaper than $200?? The 5700g has been under $200 on Amazon and Newegg for over 6 months.
Been thinking about building a gaming PC, but picked the absolute worst time ever to do so. So going this route for now seems like my best option, and just hope gpu prices eventually come back down to earth within the next year. Thanks for the tips.
I have an R9 270 and I've been waiting years for the prices to come down lol... To buy a card that is a worthwhile upgrade I would have to spend at least $600. I've given up at this point, this APU looks like a very good solution. The card is still okay for gaming but can't run 4K very well.
@Sir Isaac Newton its just a marketing term used for CPU with an integrated graphics processor by AMD so that you don't have to buy an dedicated GPU just to run some gpu demanding application's
@Sir Isaac Newton It's a chip where the CPU and GPU are in one die(socket). Easier to manage temperature because you don't have to worry about cooling two seperate components, just the one. It also has the advantage of needing less overall power to run at optimum performance. Downside is that it relies on Dual Channel Memory(2 or 4 sticks of RAM) The higher the speed the better the GPU performance of an APU.
Exactly. The marriage of the APU and DDR5 is when we will see these take off. Then folk won't just be buying an APU to add a GPU later down the road, they'll just be happy with the APU. I'm excited for then. All the best.
It is so far away that by the time you see it the entry level will be a lot higher. APUs never catch up and are just for office use. Anything new can always retro game. Generation after generation we see the exact same thing with APUs. You're fooling yourself.
I was actually hoping there would be a video on this type of build! Great video and very timely. I'm also impressed by the quantity of content from this channel.
This is a beast of an Apu set up, I'm impressed the all core 4.6 GHz over clock stuck and that the memory ran at 4.4 GHz, good bit of kit, the GPU over clock was impressive too. I have a stock 3400g with 16gb 3200 memory with fairly tight timings, 2 m.2 nvme drives 1tb and 256 GB, in a asrock a300, time spy score 1200 , the cost when built about 580 dollars.
Heck Yeah this is why I want to build my girlfriend one a little over 600 and your golden I got extremely lucky I had purchased a corsair gs800 psu and a ASUS 1060gtx 3gb oc gpu for 100 Canadian I basically stole them :D I will not find that 50 dollar gpu again its 400 dollars on amazon and surely with a bit of research and 400 dollars id find something better locally. and my other parts cpu psu mother board ssd2 was about 600 brand new im probably missing a component im still new to building. "yes Gskill ram" how could I forget....
This build alone, truly shows how Vega is showing its limits, same type scenario with intel in their 11th gen series. But once they finally added RDNA2/3D cache, it’s clearly gonna become the god of all APUs
I wouldn't use this case for an APU build, unless my intent was a dedicated GPU later. Your Chopin build shows what an APU can truly do. You don't need nay expansion slots, most ITX boards have WiFi, so build to those strengths, and make a portability-focused build that can fit in a bag. The 1650 low profile exists not because it's a good card, but because once you find the right home for it...you can do something special with it. If you're going to use an APU, make a computer that you can throw in a bag, and call it the ultimate LAN box. That's something special. A full-size case with a 240mm radiator and no GPU just feels like something...lacking.
Chopin's 150 and 200 watt psu's are too weak and will shutdown under too heavy a load with even a R5 3400G overclocked under a heavy gaming load. Been there, done that.
Hi ETA I'm on the search for a 1000-900 usd pc/laptop, so far the prebuilts are giving good price-perfomance ratio while the laptops have come with CPU and GPU combos that gives great battery life. So I wonder which should I buy a desktop prebuilt or wait to the laptops deals?
In the end it comes down to what you want, personally I don’t use my gaming laptop as much as my desktop. If you travel a lot a laptop might be the perfect option.
A desktop will offer you more upgradability. However honestly most people upgrade their whole pc and not just pieces most the time. I’m running a nitro 5 with the 4600h and 1650 gpu on a desk setup with a 1080p 144hz monitor and it plays all my games on medium/ high
@@xbigbobsagetx my friend recommended me that model it goes for 750-800 on best buy, I live in a third world country, PCs or laptops don't come as cheap as the US so I will like a device to play games 1080p on high settings.
That's awesome. Integrated graphics is really improving. I wouldn't be surprised if we can be playing games in 4k high settings soon with integrated graphics lol
I don't remenber if i never or ever leave a comment here. But all i want to do is to gave you a BIG THANK YOU !!! Love from a french fan, you help a lot. Merci
I have seen videos showing that 5700G can be assigned 16g of video memory which of course is assigned from system ram. I truly appreciate the coverage you have given the 5700G, could you possibly redo the video bench marks with the boost in video memory? The suggested system memory is 64 gig to 128 gigs of memory. I feel perhaps that this wouid be a beneficial video to do given that stand alone GPU's are still such a high price with no quick end in sight. Thank, and keep up the good work.
You dont have to with the steam deck. Ryzen 5700g has 8 vega cores and steam deck has 8 rdna 2 cores. I can imagine the difference being BIG. Also depends on clock speeds
@@DeadpoolPlayz thing is the Steam Deck APU only has 4 CPU cores and that definitely factors into performamce. It will definitely perform better but the difference probably won't be as big as you think. Still gonna be way better for the price though
@@cressothegrey4354 we've seen the steam deck running doom eternal at higher settings than this video and it was still getting higher fps In the same area he was testing at.
@@shaneduff3058 some people see this as a cheaper way of PCing and medium level gaming rather then just see it as a "gaming" machine. Obviously you don't understand the niche market for this build or the many different uses. While yes I'll admit consoles have better stats better graphics etc there's some thin the those consoles can't do. Besides once they switch the next series over to rdn2 consoles won't be better anymore. PC building right now is expensive this is an alternative that meets medium standards.
I personally cant wait for the 'theoretical' Ryzen 7 7790GX 6 core, 12 thread with 16 RDNA2 CUs running at 2200Mhz, and quad channel RAM, either DDR5 , or GDDR6(preferably DDR5 so it can be service/upgradable)
Would be interested in seeing you dual boot a distro of Linux to compare some of the performance numbers to Windows. Doom Eternal runs better under Linux, for example. Most games do not, but it would be interesting to see the difference
Did you watch the previous videos by ETA? Some of the miniPCs run PS3 at 60fps according to the reviews. If you want to be on the safe side or to upscale the PS3 games, then check out his compact SFF reviews which had built-in discrete GPUs like the GTX1650.
How possible is a test run with older games? Examples: original skyrim, grid autosport, oblivion, mass efect trilogy. That way we will see not only the power but also the compatibility of this igpu. Thanks eta
Love the build, the algorithm lead me here since this was near exactly what I’m looking to build myself. Big fan of the Ryzen APU’s for a budget build but with room to grow still. Keep up the good work 👍
NGl if you young children who want a computer this REALLY seems the way to go. Considering they're mostly going to be playing games like roblox minecraft fortnite etc. this pc will smash it. Remove the OC put it in a sff case. Your kids have got a seriously good machine perfect for what theyre going to be doing with it. And the SFF makes it a lot easier to fit in their room or downstairs in your living room.
Thank you ETA. I chose this apu thanks to you. Maybe it is not the most powerful but it made my life easier. I hope I can get a more powerful proc and gpu in the future.
I agree i got my 5600g yesterday and with the b450i motherboard i got all cores to 4.6ghz with 1.275 volts with a 240mm aio seems to be a great chip 44-49c in 1080 MMO gaming
Very nice overclocks! This setup overclocked looks like it plays phenomenal! Very nice work! I really like that you make these videos about these APUs! It shows what you can really do if you try..that 240aio sure is worth it in this scenario. Keep it up man! I have a 3080ti FE and a Zotac 3060ti and next gen APUs have me actually prettt excited especially if we can get some FAST ddr5 ram with actual decent timings..maybe a year or so after AM5 launch the ram will start to get better timings. Imagine if next gen or semi close future APUs get a bit of dedicated vram. Even if just 2-4 gigs it potentially could be a huge game changer..I’m imagining a 7800g3d with 4gigs ddr6x vram built in and 64gigs Vcache similar to the 5800x3d but an APU…OMG SOON we seriously won’t NEED a dedicated gpu for mid tier or even a little AAA gaming. I’m pretty dang stoked for the near future for PC parts in general…ddr5, AM5, pcie5.0….the list goes on and on…it’s coming friends and it will be here before we know it!! Cheers..✌🏼
Any chance to see any kind of comparison against the 5600g? A lot of other reviews I'm seeing around are saying that while the 5700g is nice enough in a vacuum, at $370 it's a bad value against the 5600g's $260 price point.
Hi...... did you get the 5600G....how smooth does it run....can you please kindly help me by giving me your feedback....with COVID lost job and all cant afford to make a mistake. Does this do well with 4K editing of short films say 2-3 mins length. And similar after effects motion graphics projects. Need to buy imdtly as its on sale now and i can save little money. Thanks.
I like that you can run games off of this without having to get a video card (unless you wanna spend the extra cash for one), because the state of video cards is just ridiculous atm. I give high praise to AMD for this.
This APU is often overlooked or despised by newbie even experienced PC Builder out there. I have 5600G but slimmer case and the good old Wraith Prism and coudn't be happier because I don't have to think about buying GPU for my office needs.
Man those APUs overclock REALLY nicely. Makin' me giddy about potentially future RDNA2 APUs. Like... Linus's experience with the unoptimized Steam Deck was basically what you were getting here, but at a 15w TDP, at least in Doom Eternal.
Been a fan forever - you were my guide when I dove into the Raspberry Pi. Now you're my gaming rig build guide. Especially this GPU-less build until prices come down. One question... any special steps I need to take to set up a new build with just the NVMe as my only drive? Totally excited to venture into the 5600g on a B550M and only the M.2 drive.
On one hand for enthusiasts it sucks that they're still using Vega graphics for what I believe is the third Ryzen APU iteration, but on the other hand there's no denying that it still is incredible performance.
As someone with a side mounted AIO that recently started with some annoying pump noise that I fixed by standing my case vertically on it's front panel. I'd stick to air cooling in the NR200. Top or front (with tubes down) mounted AIOs for me, or am air cooler if I have the room.
YESS I copped the ryzen 7 5700g bc of your post and Im waiting for the purple 200p to return to stock to buy it and you make this video as if it's meant to be 😁
Great Job my friend. For most people this could be a waste of money and effort. But I love to see what can be done with those APUs and those who push it to the limits. It´s really very impressive what they can do, but for now I think 5700G it´s a little overpriced and not the best deal. I´m looking forward to change my actual desktop rig, a Dell Optiplex 3060 sff equipped with an i5 8400 paired with the well know GT1030 from Zotac. But all of the gameplays I see there´s no HUGE difference between this GPU and the APUs Graphics. Maybe when the 7000 series come over it worth the upgrade. Meanwhile, I´ll stick with my actual build wishing a mind blowing APU to come from AMD. By the way, i´m looking for a cheap and easy to use external GPU enclosure that´s compatible with my actual rig, maybe i´ll go forward and grab a rtx 2060. This way I think that my actual i5 could live for more 1 or 2 years before DDR5 become cheaper and industry standard. What options do you recommend?
The 5700g is about on par with a GeForce 1030. APU performance is impressive for what it can only match low end discrete graphics. For the APU price points, they make sense for budget builds in this GPU starved market.
For the Witcher 3, my Ryzen 5 5500U iGPU (Significantly inferior) can run Witcher 3 at 720p30 maximum settings (Minus the Nvidia options, AA, and Motion blur). There's no way the Ryzen 7 would have to drop to 720p medium settings, unless you're greedy for the luxurious 60fps I'd expect at least 900p30 at maximum settings. Quality > Quantity
Yea, GTA5 needed some texture-filtering though. You can usually turn that up easily as well, as it barely affects performance. It kinda defeats the purpose of high-quality textures if it blurs quickly.
Nice build I have that cases with 5950x 3080ti Fe all on air , would love to see how small you can go on 5700g I got my one coming next week and 3070 Fe too want to creat the ultimate emulator machine love the channel been so helpful over the years
This thing performs almost as well as my full gaming PC (4th gen i5 OC@4GHZ + GTX970). I am trying so hard to get a GPU so I can build a new computer that it is keeping me awake at night.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe you may don't know, but intel in like 2015 had a very capable APU, which is in the name of i7 5775c, it has an iris pro integrated graphics inside which was as powerful as gtx 750ti. Intel actually pulled a good one, quite a time before amd made great apus today
Shout out to RPCS3 team for adding AMDs FidelityFX super resolution technology, the PS3 emulator just got better.
My old GPU thanks it, too.
@@xCDF-pt8kj depends on the game. Games like skate 3 won't benefit at all as you just need a powerful cpu to run that one at 60fps.
RPCS4 coming up !!
I like your funny words magic man
Integrated graphics running on solar panels is where it's gonna be at in a few years.
hey wait a minute
Good idea
Can’t wait to have also RGB light on the solar panels 😆
Better to run it using the heat generated by overclocking
I work in disaster areas so I go long stretches without grid power. I use a Ryzen 5 4500U HP 15" foldable laptop where I installed 32GB of 3200MHz ram for all my work and play. My whole office setup is ran off of a 100W solar panel with a 340 watt storage battery. The laptop runs GTA V at 1080p 60fps. I have an extra 100W panel but I haven't needed it yet, after dark I have a good 4+ hours of game play
@@peppernickelly Damn great info thanks Pepper! I've been studying up on a lower wattage setup as well. Right now I'm using a laptop with a dedicated GPU but would like to use something that can run games off of
Seeing this gets me really excited for the Steam Deck and the 6000 series.
Will the 6000 series ditch Vega for RDNA like the steam deck?
@@apfelschorle1988 Yes, and apparently it will have up to 12 RDNA 2 cores. Which if true will be 4 more cores than the Steam Deck has. Plus it's using ZEN 3 architecture. The future for SFF gaming is bright.
@@zachgamr5475 from where you have this info? There's no way they will do that. They will never get it right, with the Apu's...
The steam deck does doom eternal at 70fps 800p medium settings. That's just a peak at rdna2 apus.
@@malathomas6141 the Steam Deck has 50GB/s memory bandwidth, that's going to be hard to match in normal system even with first gen DDR5.
The iGPU will have more power but still be bandwidth limited, it'll probably allow higher settings at 1080P than Steam Deck though.
I always enjoy the cheery, upbeat, straightforward videos on this channel. Even though I really don't need this type of PC.
Cyberpunk performance is impressive as hell. I've got an i5 6300 HQ w/GTX 960M that can't do that well. It really needs 8 threads, I'm CPU limited but the GPU is still a tad faster than the integrated video.
That APU would definitely be a better choice if my primary deciding factor was Cyberpunk.
Integrated video has made serious gains.
Amazing being an APU enthusiast and then watching AMD APUs grow in every generation of APUs. Currently running 3400g and still planning to upgrade to 5700g. Let's see how the next gen will do.
2400g pro, finally updating since the 5700g is the last AM4 APU
@Nchuzi Ikachana oh I'm sorry. APU prices are too pricey at the time. So I pretty much had to move to i3-12100 + gtx 1660 super for the meantime.
If you're asking for performance of the 5700g in gaming expect 720p and occasional 1080p low to mid settings depending on the game.
@@jeanfranco8272 Oof where were you shopping that a GPU/CPU combo was cheaper than $200?? The 5700g has been under $200 on Amazon and Newegg for over 6 months.
Been thinking about building a gaming PC, but picked the absolute worst time ever to do so. So going this route for now seems like my best option, and just hope gpu prices eventually come back down to earth within the next year.
Thanks for the tips.
I have an R9 270 and I've been waiting years for the prices to come down lol... To buy a card that is a worthwhile upgrade I would have to spend at least $600. I've given up at this point, this APU looks like a very good solution. The card is still okay for gaming but can't run 4K very well.
@@juffurey how about 5600g and 5600x do they run 4k
GPU prices are crashing now.
RX 6600 can be had for less than $300 now and it’s a decent card
Prices have plunged. Enjoy the discounts!
Can't wait for the 6000 series Ryzen 7 APU it will crush all entry level GPUs with a good DDR5 kit
@Sir Isaac Newton its just a marketing term used for CPU with an integrated graphics processor by AMD so that you don't have to buy an dedicated GPU just to run some gpu demanding application's
@Sir Isaac Newton It's a chip where the CPU and GPU are in one die(socket). Easier to manage temperature because you don't have to worry about cooling two seperate components, just the one. It also has the advantage of needing less overall power to run at optimum performance.
Downside is that it relies on Dual Channel Memory(2 or 4 sticks of RAM) The higher the speed the better the GPU performance of an APU.
Exactly. The marriage of the APU and DDR5 is when we will see these take off. Then folk won't just be buying an APU to add a GPU later down the road, they'll just be happy with the APU. I'm excited for then.
All the best.
It is so far away that by the time you see it the entry level will be a lot higher.
APUs never catch up and are just for office use. Anything new can always retro game.
Generation after generation we see the exact same thing with APUs. You're fooling yourself.
DDR5 is gonna bring a nice increase in performance for sure, even if we had DDR5 with Vega.
I was actually hoping there would be a video on this type of build! Great video and very timely. I'm also impressed by the quantity of content from this channel.
The new RDNA2 APUs are absolute monsters. Looking foward to those.
This build is incredible! I’m slowly coming around to RGB like this.
This is a beast of an Apu set up, I'm impressed the all core 4.6 GHz over clock stuck and that the memory ran at 4.4 GHz, good bit of kit, the GPU over clock was impressive too.
I have a stock 3400g with 16gb 3200 memory with fairly tight timings, 2 m.2 nvme drives 1tb and 256 GB, in a asrock a300, time spy score 1200 , the cost when built about 580 dollars.
Heck Yeah this is why I want to build my girlfriend one a little over 600 and your golden
I got extremely lucky I had purchased a corsair gs800 psu and a ASUS 1060gtx 3gb oc gpu for 100 Canadian I basically stole them :D
I will not find that 50 dollar gpu again its 400 dollars on amazon and surely with a bit of research and 400 dollars id find something better locally.
and my other parts cpu psu mother board ssd2 was about 600 brand new im probably missing a component im still new to building.
"yes Gskill ram" how could I forget....
This build alone, truly shows how Vega is showing its limits, same type scenario with intel in their 11th gen series. But once they finally added RDNA2/3D cache, it’s clearly gonna become the god of all APUs
and DDR5
APU AKBAR
@@wikwayer amin
The steam deck rdna2 is gonna be great
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe True, but still not enough power to last longer when playing AAA games properly
The next APU's with RDNA 2 onboard and DDR5 memory are going to be amazing!
But sadly not in 2021/2022 cuz DDR5 is going to be really expensive and it's memory timings (CL) will s*ck at the start at least
I can't wait for the 7000-Series APUs. They will be absolute monsters in emulation and medium graphical quality gaming.
I wouldn't use this case for an APU build, unless my intent was a dedicated GPU later. Your Chopin build shows what an APU can truly do. You don't need nay expansion slots, most ITX boards have WiFi, so build to those strengths, and make a portability-focused build that can fit in a bag.
The 1650 low profile exists not because it's a good card, but because once you find the right home for it...you can do something special with it. If you're going to use an APU, make a computer that you can throw in a bag, and call it the ultimate LAN box. That's something special. A full-size case with a 240mm radiator and no GPU just feels like something...lacking.
Chopin's 150 and 200 watt psu's are too weak and will shutdown under too heavy a load with even a R5 3400G overclocked under a heavy gaming load. Been there, done that.
Hi ETA I'm on the search for a 1000-900 usd pc/laptop, so far the prebuilts are giving good price-perfomance ratio while the laptops have come with CPU and GPU combos that gives great battery life. So I wonder which should I buy a desktop prebuilt or wait to the laptops deals?
In the end it comes down to what you want, personally I don’t use my gaming laptop as much as my desktop. If you travel a lot a laptop might be the perfect option.
@@ETAPRIME thank you for replying
You can upgrade a desktop down the line, which is great, but you can also carry a laptop around anywhere so that's a bonus
A desktop will offer you more upgradability. However honestly most people upgrade their whole pc and not just pieces most the time. I’m running a nitro 5 with the 4600h and 1650 gpu on a desk setup with a 1080p 144hz monitor and it plays all my games on medium/ high
@@xbigbobsagetx my friend recommended me that model it goes for 750-800 on best buy, I live in a third world country, PCs or laptops don't come as cheap as the US so I will like a device to play games 1080p on high settings.
That's awesome. Integrated graphics is really improving. I wouldn't be surprised if we can be playing games in 4k high settings soon with integrated graphics lol
You can though
4k60 on apu
@abdul rahman ps5 and xbox series x
@@Rick-kb Fuckin' lol
@@Rick-kb I think they mean low power Apus that run at 10-15w tdp
I don't remenber if i never or ever leave a comment here. But all i want to do is to gave you a BIG THANK YOU !!! Love from a french fan, you help a lot. Merci
I have seen videos showing that 5700G can be assigned 16g of video memory which of course is assigned from system ram. I truly appreciate the coverage you have given the 5700G, could you possibly redo the video bench marks with the boost in video memory? The suggested system memory is 64 gig to 128 gigs of memory. I feel perhaps that this wouid be a beneficial video to do given that stand alone GPU's are still such a high price with no quick end in sight. Thank, and keep up the good work.
Been waiting for this! 😎🔥🔥 Imagine with RDNA2....
You dont have to with the steam deck. Ryzen 5700g has 8 vega cores and steam deck has 8 rdna 2 cores. I can imagine the difference being BIG. Also depends on clock speeds
@@DeadpoolPlayz thing is the Steam Deck APU only has 4 CPU cores and that definitely factors into performamce. It will definitely perform better but the difference probably won't be as big as you think.
Still gonna be way better for the price though
@@cressothegrey4354 we've seen the steam deck running doom eternal at higher settings than this video and it was still getting higher fps In the same area he was testing at.
freesync is golden for APUs, you get smooth framerate as long as you are above 30fps, being the minimum framerate to fix tearing
Fyi cost analysis for this setup no monitor or PSU (I have a PSU) it's about $1000 on Amazon for all the parts.
And alternative version (Cheaper one)?
Just get ps5 or xbox job done👍
@@shaneduff3058 yea and those can run windows or Linux? And do basic word processing etc
@@antscape why spend one thousand just to surf the Web,an do pc s**t. 250or 300 be enough for that, then ps5orxbox for gaming. Job done👍
@@shaneduff3058 some people see this as a cheaper way of PCing and medium level gaming rather then just see it as a "gaming" machine. Obviously you don't understand the niche market for this build or the many different uses. While yes I'll admit consoles have better stats better graphics etc there's some thin the those consoles can't do. Besides once they switch the next series over to rdn2 consoles won't be better anymore. PC building right now is expensive this is an alternative that meets medium standards.
I personally cant wait for the 'theoretical' Ryzen 7 7790GX 6 core, 12 thread with 16 RDNA2 CUs running at 2200Mhz, and quad channel RAM, either DDR5 , or GDDR6(preferably DDR5 so it can be service/upgradable)
Thanks so much for this build. Even in Indonesia these parts are easy to find.
Would be interested in seeing you dual boot a distro of Linux to compare some of the performance numbers to Windows. Doom Eternal runs better under Linux, for example. Most games do not, but it would be interesting to see the difference
@@oswaldocerdan AMD has better performance on linux
Can't wait to see how this thing emulates. I may build one
This is overkill just for emulation. There are cheaper options to emulate upto PS3, check out his previous miniPC reviews.
Did you watch the previous videos by ETA? Some of the miniPCs run PS3 at 60fps according to the reviews.
If you want to be on the safe side or to upscale the PS3 games, then check out his compact SFF reviews which had built-in discrete GPUs like the GTX1650.
How possible is a test run with older games? Examples: original skyrim, grid autosport, oblivion, mass efect trilogy. That way we will see not only the power but also the compatibility of this igpu. Thanks eta
It's a x86 based CPU and architecture so willl not have any problem running Windows and Windows games.
"Real world gaming" 🤣 I really like all your videos even though I never play games your construction and testing is to be admired.
I absolutely LOVE your channel. This is EXACTLY what I was curious about. Please keep up the great work! Your channel is amazing!
Love the build, the algorithm lead me here since this was near exactly what I’m looking to build myself. Big fan of the Ryzen APU’s for a budget build but with room to grow still. Keep up the good work 👍
Ooh another Nr200p pc Build
I really like that case, love nr200p builds
NGl if you young children who want a computer this REALLY seems the way to go. Considering they're mostly going to be playing games like roblox minecraft fortnite etc. this pc will smash it. Remove the OC put it in a sff case. Your kids have got a seriously good machine perfect for what theyre going to be doing with it. And the SFF makes it a lot easier to fit in their room or downstairs in your living room.
Thank you ETA. I chose this apu thanks to you. Maybe it is not the most powerful but it made my life easier. I hope I can get a more powerful proc and gpu in the future.
I can't wait for the 5700G to drop to the recommended prices and I will replace my 3200G with it. Thanks for the great video.
Use newegg and you get use QuadPay. Much better than waiting for a new product to drop in price.
wow, going cheap on an APU that is around 5x-10x cheaper then buying discrete
Great performance. Ty for the video!
i wish APU gets cheaper since Graphic card getting expensive as inferno
As GPU price goes up, APU price will go up as well because people don't have a choice. Companies are going to milk you for every cent they can
I agree i got my 5600g yesterday and with the b450i motherboard i got all cores to 4.6ghz with 1.275 volts with a 240mm aio seems to be a great chip 44-49c in 1080 MMO gaming
World's best intro man thank you
I hate how overly dramatic everyone is today nice job on the build man
Great video, I did the test on 5800U Aero 13 and noticed RPCS3 is working great on Ryzen 5000 series
Very nice overclocks! This setup overclocked looks like it plays phenomenal! Very nice work! I really like that you make these videos about these APUs! It shows what you can really do if you try..that 240aio sure is worth it in this scenario. Keep it up man! I have a 3080ti FE and a Zotac 3060ti and next gen APUs have me actually prettt excited especially if we can get some FAST ddr5 ram with actual decent timings..maybe a year or so after AM5 launch the ram will start to get better timings. Imagine if next gen or semi close future APUs get a bit of dedicated vram. Even if just 2-4 gigs it potentially could be a huge game changer..I’m imagining a 7800g3d with 4gigs ddr6x vram built in and 64gigs Vcache similar to the 5800x3d but an APU…OMG SOON we seriously won’t NEED a dedicated gpu for mid tier or even a little AAA gaming. I’m pretty dang stoked for the near future for PC parts in general…ddr5, AM5, pcie5.0….the list goes on and on…it’s coming friends and it will be here before we know it!! Cheers..✌🏼
Any chance to see any kind of comparison against the 5600g? A lot of other reviews I'm seeing around are saying that while the 5700g is nice enough in a vacuum, at $370 it's a bad value against the 5600g's $260 price point.
Agreed, not a huge difference in gaming. Just get the 5600G.
The 5700G was hardly any faster in gaming so I picked up the 5600G and saved $100.
Pls tell me. Is 5600g worth it. For video editing and gaming??
Hi...... did you get the 5600G....how smooth does it run....can you please kindly help me by giving me your feedback....with COVID lost job and all cant afford to make a mistake. Does this do well with 4K editing of short films say 2-3 mins length. And similar after effects motion graphics projects. Need to buy imdtly as its on sale now and i can save little money. Thanks.
I'm literally using this CPU in my build with this exact thought in mind
I'd love to see either a 5750G-XT 3D V-Cache refresh. Or what the new 6000 series Navi 2 APU's can do. With or without the ddr5.
Dude i love your intro, its kind of soothing...
Damn dude, this is a killer build!
I like that you can run games off of this without having to get a video card (unless you wanna spend the extra cash for one), because the state of video cards is just ridiculous atm. I give high praise to AMD for this.
cant wait to see rdna 2 apus with ddr5. overclocked desktop variant is going to be fantastic.
It will be on 🔥
That's a really clean build. Turned out nice.
The NR200 case just got better since they come with more color now instead of just black and white.
This APU is often overlooked or despised by newbie even experienced PC Builder out there.
I have 5600G but slimmer case and the good old Wraith Prism and coudn't be happier because I don't have to think about buying GPU for my office needs.
Man those APUs overclock REALLY nicely. Makin' me giddy about potentially future RDNA2 APUs. Like... Linus's experience with the unoptimized Steam Deck was basically what you were getting here, but at a 15w TDP, at least in Doom Eternal.
finally my fav channel doing nr200 build.
I would like to see bench marks from other systems compared on screen at the same time. You could also put it in the description
Hell yeah, thats a very reasonable stop gap solution for folks that are stuck without a gpu or just want badass emulation.
Really love all your videos!! Love all your builds!
Wonder how this PC would perform today as AMD chips tend to get better with age due to driver updates
Mmm I wonder I need to find vid 🤔
hopefully ryzen 7000 series will also have an apu line-up
Been a fan forever - you were my guide when I dove into the Raspberry Pi. Now you're my gaming rig build guide. Especially this GPU-less build until prices come down.
One question... any special steps I need to take to set up a new build with just the NVMe as my only drive? Totally excited to venture into the 5600g on a B550M and only the M.2 drive.
And this is still on the vega graphics. i'm super excited for potential APUs with RDNA, i think those will be insane.
In case anoyone was wondering, it is actually prounced fort-za. I looked it up and the devs tweeted the correct pronounciation.
great vid ETA, hope you do a FSR benchmark on certain games with the 5700g vs 3400g...
On one hand for enthusiasts it sucks that they're still using Vega graphics for what I believe is the third Ryzen APU iteration, but on the other hand there's no denying that it still is incredible performance.
please do Ryzen APU with Asrock X300 Minidesk
Am I the only one who thought of that song, Caramell Dansen, when the RGB showed on the side view? 4:06
I was just looking at that same case yesterday, in black.
Got the most out of the APU and compact PC. Very nice build 👍
Awesome! Thanks!
As someone with a side mounted AIO that recently started with some annoying pump noise that I fixed by standing my case vertically on it's front panel. I'd stick to air cooling in the NR200.
Top or front (with tubes down) mounted AIOs for me, or am air cooler if I have the room.
Nice video, Nice build
Am really liking the case you used.
YESS I copped the ryzen 7 5700g bc of your post and Im waiting for the purple 200p to return to stock to buy it and you make this video as if it's meant to be 😁
Do overclocking tutorials for this apu. Thanks
Great upload! Love these apus! My 650ti boost is about the same performance (or better) when it comes to "scraping by with what you have".
Great Job my friend. For most people this could be a waste of money and effort. But I love to see what can be done with those APUs and those who push it to the limits. It´s really very impressive what they can do, but for now I think 5700G it´s a little overpriced and not the best deal.
I´m looking forward to change my actual desktop rig, a Dell Optiplex 3060 sff equipped with an i5 8400 paired with the well know GT1030 from Zotac. But all of the gameplays I see there´s no HUGE difference between this GPU and the APUs Graphics. Maybe when the 7000 series come over it worth the upgrade. Meanwhile, I´ll stick with my actual build wishing a mind blowing APU to come from AMD.
By the way, i´m looking for a cheap and easy to use external GPU enclosure that´s compatible with my actual rig, maybe i´ll go forward and grab a rtx 2060. This way I think that my actual i5 could live for more 1 or 2 years before DDR5 become cheaper and industry standard. What options do you recommend?
It'd be really interesting to see the integrated GPU compared with some low tier video cards in these same tests.
The 5700g is about on par with a GeForce 1030. APU performance is impressive for what it can only match low end discrete graphics. For the APU price points, they make sense for budget builds in this GPU starved market.
@@bradg2078 or a rx 550
@@bradg2078 So a little worse then my 1060gtx 3gb damn and card prices stupid its 400 bucks on amazon so happy to have paid 50 Canadian.
@@growingtogether35 a gt 1030 is a fuckload weaker than 1060
Nice build!
I have the id cooling zoomflaw 240mm aio and it performed flawlessly
Its astonishing how far inbuilt graphics have come.
You should do an overclocking guide for this build.
they have the NR200 in purple now, but its sold out everywhere. it looks neat for a niece build
I ordered the parts to put together a mini-ITX 5700g build. I'm going to use that In Win case you used in a previous build.
Well done man thanks a lot
first person ive seen to use skate 3 as a benchmark
If i wait one more gen, we may get an amazing emu build
Maybe. 2 gens for sure.
Check his previous videos, we already had miniPCs emulating PS3 smoothly which you can buy now.
That's a solid APU and system. If recommend this as a gaming build until GPUs are back to normal.
Sleek build, have you tested this on Premier Pro? Do you think it could handle 4k render?
I hope to see some Destiny 2 benchmarks someday!
Thank you so much for this video
For the Witcher 3, my Ryzen 5 5500U iGPU (Significantly inferior) can run Witcher 3 at 720p30 maximum settings (Minus the Nvidia options, AA, and Motion blur). There's no way the Ryzen 7 would have to drop to 720p medium settings, unless you're greedy for the luxurious 60fps
I'd expect at least 900p30 at maximum settings. Quality > Quantity
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Yea, GTA5 needed some texture-filtering though. You can usually turn that up easily as well, as it barely affects performance.
It kinda defeats the purpose of high-quality textures if it blurs quickly.
Thumbnail looks amazing
Yooo,no lie, before even seeing this build, i picked up the id cooling auraflow x 240 evo, and an r5 5600g
Awesome build
Nice build I have that cases with 5950x 3080ti Fe all on air , would love to see how small you can go on 5700g I got my one coming next week and 3070 Fe too want to creat the ultimate emulator machine love the channel been so helpful over the years
That Cyberpunk 2077 was looking very good especially with NO GRAPHICS CARD!! Amazing!
Technically the "graphics card" is built into the chipset so yes there is one, just not an external physical graphics card.
im really impressed
This thing performs almost as well as my full gaming PC (4th gen i5 OC@4GHZ + GTX970). I am trying so hard to get a GPU so I can build a new computer that it is keeping me awake at night.
My 1070 leaves this thing in the dirt but still very very good for an APU. I remember 3 years ago when apus were trash
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe you may don't know, but intel in like 2015 had a very capable APU, which is in the name of i7 5775c, it has an iris pro integrated graphics inside which was as powerful as gtx 750ti. Intel actually pulled a good one, quite a time before amd made great apus today