What Happens When TRT Goes Wrong? - Dr Peter Attia
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- Chris and Dr Peter Attia discuss the dangers of Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) in young men. What is Dr Peter Attia most concerned about with TRT use? Why is there a sudden rise in TRT use amongst young men according to Dr Peter Attia?
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Young man being 18-25?
@@NathanKlym in the context of TRT young typically means below 40
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Title should read "doctor gives balanced opinion on use/misuse of trt"
Not eye catching enough.
yeah, what an absurd video title. TRT has improved my health in so many ways and these types of sensationalist videos are the reason people look at it like its a dangerous steroid
Balanced ? The first thing he says is it’s safe then proceeds to tell all the unsafe things about it
@@NotSoLiberal misuse, not clinical use.
@@NotSoLiberal no, the FIRST THING he says is "I'm greatly concerned by it".
TRT changed my life. Used to have nothing, do nothing, depressed, low self esteem, insecure. Now I am just depressed lol. Big improvement. :D
lol
haha :) best comment ever. Good luck man ^^
Add ketanine to your regiment lol
@@benericsson5277 XD
You could have just changed your lifestyle. You are not broken.
Silly title. I’m in my 50’s and use TRT, wish I had started a decade ago, just fantastic…overall health, physique. Life changing.
Great. But what's happening beneath... In a long term
They’re talking about young men who don’t need it getting on TRT. Not someone whose natural production is declining naturally with age.
@@BaneTrogdor an all round improvement in health and a reduction in risks of chronic disease e.g. heart disease
@@BaneTrogdor this is why you get BLOOD WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH
“young men”
I’m 10yrs into TRT. Best decision ever.
My doctor is old school and avoided TRT for a long time. He recently told me that since he started prescribing TRT to his patients they all started to not need ED meds, anxiety meds, anti depressants, sleep aids, and they have better biomarkers and the net net result is he prescribes less drugs overall. And he told me he has had men+women shed tears to him saying TRT saved their marriage and changed their life.
TRT is about quality of life. But you must monitor your bloodwork forever…which ultimately is beneficial to your health because you are paying attention and your dr catches them immediately.
TRT should only be for 40+ year olds. People just want shortcuts
You will pay the piper for your hormone use eventually. Those of us who managed all the things you mentioned by sleeping well, exercising well, and eating well will pay no such piper.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 but while on trt you'll be doing the piping eh!
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 bring on the piper. I have a condition where my body produces little test. It’s provably healthier for me to be on it. And I’ve worked out, eaten only healthy foods and slept well for 20yrs. I’ve been at 10% BF forever. I’m a stud. Dont lecture me on health son Do some research on the Traverse Study instead of echoing rule of thumb
@@Walteralexander1 100% agree
I think we should be more concerned and questioning more why so many young men have low T to begin with. The fact that its not receiving more attention is borderline criminal. I have no doubt that certain industries with deep pockets and lots of lobbyists are to blame.
Agree, It's the water supplie.
Plastic containers likely play a big role. Im 42 when I was a kid any soda from the gas station came in a glass bottle. Things transitioned to plastic since its cheaper. We are seeing the effects now
Plastics, BPA, most canned food, frozen food, and processed food products are laced with soy, obesity, dryer sheets also contain xenoestrogens which absorb into your skin. Don’t look into this too hard or you’ll realize you’re being blanketed by poisons constantly.
@@2breal91interesting guess.
Started TRT this year at age 51 due to low testosterone. I was shooting loads but no orgasm, it was depressing but now I feel it again and my dwindling muscles are strengthening! Thank you doctor!
I’ve been in it 8 years, I tested low both tests before I jumped on. Never thought about weight lifting before but as soon as I got on it I started lifting weights and never stopped
I don’t think you’ve been in it. Maybe on it! 😂 cheers. 🤝
Hope it continues too help you
Do you take HCG along with the testosterone ?
Your lighting on these videos is so spot on.
jeff bezos knows alot about testosterone
Underrated.
lol
So does his wifes boyfriend!
@@letthereberight His wife definitely knows a lot about it as well.
I'll say this..... I've been diagnosed with major depression with anxiety disorder from my teen years. 51 now. 6 months ago I had my T levels checked and it was 200. 6 months later @ 0.5ml weekly (1069 now)and I've NEVER felt like "life is worth living" before! Mentally and physically now?? I love life. Even the crappy things that can happen I like too. I possibly have 20 years left to enjoy and I be damn if I'm going to let anything or anyone stand in my way
46 years old. Started trt a year ago and its been a game changer for me. Feel so much better, better workouts, better sleep, etc. No drawbacks whatsoever
@@Pawanchib1914 nope. Just testosterone
TRT changed my life. I was overweight, depressed, and tired all the time. TRT helped me lose weight, balanced my mood, and put 15 pounds of muscle on me.
Started TRT recently at 48. My T levels were at 100 and now over 800.
Absolutely changed my life for the better.
Any side effects? or negatives
@sidmehere2964 my red blood cells spiked, as did my estrogen
To keep the blood in check, I donate Full Blood every 3 months and take Estrogen blockers.
Other than that, everything else has been positive
That's a good level, high but not too ridiculous.
Are you going to a specialist for your TRT? Only reason I ask is mine recommended to stop estrogen blockers due to harm they can cause. Lowered dose to where I don’t need them and not much of a difference 600-900 for me. But if those blockers ever tank your estrogen you’re in for a rough ride to recovery because it takes quite awhile for your body to regulate things again.
@Clay-fk7jh yes, I'm seeing a specialist. Before taking Trt, my estrogen level was at 2 and spiked to 60 afterwards.
I’ve been on TRT for close to 20yrs. Haven’t really seen any bad side effects. Life is a lot better on it. The Traverse trials that came out recently disproved a lot of the TRT negative myths out there.
How old are you?
A lot of people report non existing libido on TRT. It would be interesting to hear how is your libido and orgasm quality on TRT.
These days "negative myths" have been replaced with "dO it Brooo I sAw iT on RogAn broooo". Both guys I knew here on Thailand on TRT (Both American in their 60s) had strokes from elevated RBC and thick blood
@@gregagregyits tru! dhea pregnenolone and hcg wil fix it
@@gregagregy I want to know that too. My brother is on trt and said he has no libido as well
I started TRT a year ago at 42 and take it as prescribed by my doctor. I clearly notice how it makes me feel. Energy, memory and thinking clearly, mood, my body feels like it did when I was 18. I have yet to notice a negative side effect.
the negative sides will say hi later in your life.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 what will they be? Just wondering?
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 wrong.
@@luxuryseaviewvillas6744 wrong
@@natepowell69 You're trying hard to convince yourself that your "shortcut" isn't going to mess with you eventually. Good luck with that, I'll say your eulogy for you 30 years before I go. I work hard, so i don't need slacker shortcuts.
6 years TRT now.
Zero regrets changed my life for the positive 100% and my labs and overall health has improved 2x fold.
I had 2 children and started at 35. Like everyone else here, it changed my life for the better.
Amen. Thought I was the only one that had two at 35. 😂
Makes three of us.. Seen results in 1 week
I'm 34 going on 35, and I'm thinking about starting trt. I've just been feeling like shit no drive, energy, a lot of muscle lost. Can any of you share your experience on Trt? It'll be gladly appreciated.
@@fiscolorado656lol I have 2 at 33😂
35. Second on the way. Strongly considering
Keto, OMAD, 100 mg test per week divided between 3 micro doses (33 Monday, 33 Wednesda, 33 Friday), weights four days a week, fasted cardio 3 days a week. Supplements....magnesium, B multi, C, turmeric, creatine, Omega 3 and D and K2. Give blood every 60 days because donating blood has so many benefits that are never talked about. Praying in the morning and evening. Meditation and hydration. Amen.
And the you get hit by a truck on your way to work one day. Lights out. Just enjoy life. We don’t need to know all the shit you take.
keep it up man, sounds amazing
@@Cptn.Smoker…. I’m not scared of death: given my life to Christ✝️
But I do still take TRT and I’m absolutely loving life!
This guy is not scared of death, he's just running his body according to the manual.
@@granthenderson696 That sounds like a load of cringe cope.
I’m 60 and started TRT a year ago and the quality of my life has improved dramatically. Energy, cognition, lean muscle mass, sleep, digestion etc all excellent.
Did you forget to mention the bad side effects
@@henrywal I’m on 125mg a week and there aren’t any.
I started prescribed TRT at 45. I'm now 52. It has changed my life. Also, my PSA has always been stable at 1.0 - 1.5.
I just turned 42, hoping to try and stay natural as long as possible, but it's nice to know I have an option if I need it. Stay strong!
Gae. Just optimize naturally.
@@JohnSmith-qx8ll if you have primary hypogonadism then nothing you can do naturally will impact your HPTA in any significant way
so when you check blood work they are checking your psa?
@@cartier13 look into tongkat ali and fadogia they are supplements proven to increase testosterone naturally.
Started at 34 after having a surgery which made me need it.
I’m 40 now, and the best advice I could give anyone is do this only under supervision of a well trained doctor. I look and feel amazing. My attitude and mindset are better than ever at 40. I love it.
What surgery.... If it's ok to ask?
I went on TRT at 46 after a hip replacement when the weight loss became unmanageable. I have MCTD so my joints are trashed. I exercise daily and stay around 10% body fat - but after 3 tests in 2 months my T was 124. Terrible- TRT has made a huge difference
Let me
Guess…. Sedentary after the surgery and taking pain meds(which of course is understandable). Of course your test was in the gutter
Steroids make a huge difference? Who woulda thunk it?
@@xmrmet"TRT, or testosterone replacement therapy, differs from anabolic steroids in the amount of testosterone used. TRT aims at treating the symptoms of low testosterone, whereas anabolic steroids contain testosterone in much higher doses to achieve bodybuilding effects quickly and easily."
the main reason your testosterone was so low is because of the starvation of micro nutritients like minerals vitamins that is needed to keep a functioning hormone level.. you didnt need trt.
@@TabletopFamilyStill an exogenous steroid.
37 - as soon as my wife is pregnant I'm jumping on TRT. Been low for 5+ years now and enough is enough.
I'm 35 and have been on TRT for 3 years. Got my gf pregnant on accident. She was off the anticonception pill for only 5 days in this time and we only had sex once during this time.
I have read all the statistics and froze my sperm to make sure I could have kids in the future. I'm not saying you could always have kids while being in TRT, but at least in my case it seems very possible.
Still froze my sperm when starting TRT just to be sure.
@@ingmar89 Having difficulty without it so not ready to jump just yet. Also don't have the spare cash to freeze the sperm. Plus, she needs to get pregnant now or never really (she's 35).
@@Cheximus then take your time with jumping on TRT.
Also just wanted to say for me personally it's a pain in the ass managing my TRT. I travel alot so sometimes I miss shots or do them a tad too early or too late which makes my HR go up or makes it more difficult to sleep. Also the pinning gets old after a while.
It's no magic pill, but it did help me be a more calm and stable person.
Also the slight increase in wanting to work out, my beard finally coming through and the shape of my body and even my head becoming more manly helped in me feeling better.
Every change on itself is small, but it does add up. Though in retrospect I might have been able to achieve the same mindset without TRT.
my test was 230ng/dl
Take it easy brother, all the best.
37 seems kinda young. I am 37 and I know I am not young anymore, but I am thinking TRT would be for late 40’s or later
take your time this will not be a magic cure for you no matter what you have read. iv been on for years and its not easy
Shouldn’t we be concerned about the growing need for TRT? What’s causing the dip in testosterone? What’s happening to our environment, our food and our lifestyles?
It’s not abnormal for people in tradition cultures to maintain muscle mass well into old age.
Does TRT allow us to ignore that we are being damaged? And if we’re not looking at the causes does it let those responsible for the damage off the hook?
I believe it’s our diet and lifestyle mostly. Most beef is grain fed, chickens eating feed instead of bugs and other more natural sources, etc. More time spent sitting or in leisure. Our body is a machine that meets the demands placed upon it. If we just sit on our phones or watching tv we don’t need very athletic peak functioning bodies. That’s my take at least. Obviously there are probably many more factors I failed to mention such as environmental toxins, etc.
good point, exactly my thinking.
It's been proven that pesticides used on our food supply wreak havoc on our endocrine systems, as well as the chemicals used in many plastics, especially those used in food storage and the like.
Porn, fake food, plastic, phthalates, our screens
This is the real question
I started TRT about a year ago at 27, my numbers were 270, 341, and 260… this was not being obese (was slightly overweight) and hitting the gym hard trying to do everything right.
I am not interested in passing on my genes, and was depressed, fatigued, etc. I’m still trying to get the dose right, but I feel WAY better. Of course I know this is a life long commitment now, but fuck if - my life has improved
How's it going?
Started at 62 years of age. Helped make me feel normal. Its not some wonder drug in doses monitored to bring one to homeostasis
TRT and Metformin for 51 year old man!!!! Made a tremendous difference in my life!!!!!
I’m 37. 2 years ago my total test levels went down to 400 then down to 300 and my free was hovering around 60. I’ve been on only 80mg a week and my total is 832 and free is 194. I clearly needed it. We kept testing my levels every 2 months for a year and my t levels never came back up naturally.
How long you’ve been on trt and how long did you stop to check your natural lvls
Hormone replacement and peptides have improved my life 💯 percent. Ive had knee surgery on each knee. I started using hormones and has helped relieve pain a lot. I rather live comfortably into my 60s than live to my 80s in pain and afraid to live life. It is worth it. Dont be afraid if you have joint pain, if you do , you know what i mean about living a "normal" life
just train your knees, look up knees over toes guy
This might be the trade off. Live well and die in your 60's. Or suffer the tribulations of aging and make it to your 70's/80's.
I was on TRT in my 20s.... i really miss trenbolone replacement therapy.
Nice
😂
I started TRT at 44. I am a Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu practitioner. I felt my energy levels and strength drop a lot. Found out my testosterone levels were at just above 200. TRT changed my life bigtime. I also take ipamorelin and cjc 1295. Life changing.
Were you on statins?
@@craigcrawford6749 no never
@@JAYMUAYTHAI what was your diet like? I"m 63 and my T is still over 800. I eat tons of eggs and lots of meat, but I lift very heavy, always have.
@@craigcrawford6749 I eat about 6 eggs a day. I eat steak daily along with grassfed Greek yogurt raw kefir and a little fruit. My T is 1100 and I also lift very heavy about 4 days a week along with lots of cardio training with Muay Thai.
@@JAYMUAYTHAI sounds like you are in great shape. I start my day, every day, with either eggs or chicken breast. Can't get enough
I was 31 and had to go on TRT due to my pitutary no longer sending enough LH/FSH signals to naturally create testosterone.
I tried diet, clomid (gave me Migraines), went on HCG ( preserve fertility) and a small dosage of Testosterone and it worked wonders. Had a few side effects at the start but after 4months everything balanced out. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
did you kept fertility with hcg while on trt? have checked sperm tests recently? thnx man
Did you sleep well and stop drinking? 31 is really young to have Testosterone issues
@@Walteralexander1 no, it isn't. Hypogonadism is not age related.
@@natepowell69 again, that’s EXTREMELY rare. You just can’t accept most people are soft
@@Walteralexander1 I don't drink and slept well.
Starting TRT at 32 was the best decision Ive ever made in my life and I maintain total t levels 30 percent above the absurdly low ranges
Where were your levels pre trt?
@@beauwille2294 300-400 ng/dl
Total T isn't important. Free T is.
@@RhetoricalMuse And damn TRT gives you crazy free T for a given total T level.
@@RhetoricalMuse ye thats also higher than the reference range, but also 99 percent of tests for free t are very inaccurate and the accurate ones are too new and there is not enough reference data of patients on TRT with them
I broke my neck in an accident in 2009 and was on pain killers and other drugs for years and years, and those drugs dropped my T levels to 126mg/l. I could barely function in daily life, I had panic attacks and numerous health problems .
My Dr started me on the gel and it did nothing so I switched to injections and it was like a miracle . The fog lifted, feel great, no panic attacks, libido raging, cholesterol and blood work is great and Im almost 56 , so children arent an issue. I will never stop TRT .
My doctor gave me the choice of gel or injections, so I chose the gel. Even though it has a poor absorption reputation, I need to test it for myself, before I go to the extreme. Unfortunately, they don't offer the cream, as hospital like to push the gel. BTW, those panic attacks can be brutal.
How much is trt monthly?
I have feeling like crap for years and getting worse. I finally had my Testosterone tested. I’m 42, 185lbs. In good shape. My T level was at 85. Well no wonder I feel like hell.
Isn't testosterone related to social status?
When I was 42 mine was 132 and I felt the same. After 18 months of treatment it's 1300. I felt better immediately after teh first 2 sessions so this whole run has been a real embracement and love of life. It's like being a labrador, every day is amazing and fun.
That was my story. 45 yo and felt like crap. My T level was 85. Been on it for three months and I can tell a big difference.
@@johnmaurer3097
1300? That seems ridiculously high
@@2CuteToShoot69 it's not ridiculously high at all, my clinic aims to get guys to 1500.
I started last week , M 41 . Already feeling better, 2 weeks didn’t missed a training day , already noticed my belly fat going down , and looking much better, strength going up like I would not never expect.
That’s great you’re feeling it so quickly. It typically takes 6 weeks or so to feel noticeable benefits.
@@djquick Started 4 weeks ago with TT@ 320 and Free @ 59. I felt very noticeable mental improvements on week 1. I'm looking forward to week 6 and beyond.
In 2015 i was rehabbing a double tibia pleateau fracture with 10 screws an 2 plates. I tell kid @ gym , " I'm doing 5 mg for maintenance of Avavar every other day ."
Kid laughs , " 5 mg ... I'm using 1 gram a Week of Testosterone, does that even do anything !" .. yes it did and he was using about 66 times more than me and i was 44 he was 23 ... Mess with hormones when you are young and you won't be able to benefit as much when your older ...
Be good to yourselves ❤
Just want to say that I 100 percent agree with what Dr. Attia says at 10 minutes in the video. I was on clomiphene for several months. it brought my testosterone up to about 800 which was impressive, but it lowered my libido and my mood seemed to always be down. I went off it and feel much better.
41 yo. Discussing TRT with my doc in a couple days. Been super tired for months, no sex drive, crappy sleep, workout recovery takes a long time, thinning hair among other stuff.
Hoping trt is the right move for me.
Good luck mate
@@DUBLL100Not if trt gives him energy to exercise , after which he will be tired, and sleep like a log.
When I was young and in my prime, I used to do it all the time, but now that I am old and gray, I only do it twice a day! With TRT and Tadalafil, along with good diet and exercise.
Been on TRT for 5 years; age 51. HUGE difference; and she likes it too. Prescribed and I only do 175 q 2 weeks.
The testing doctors do to determine testosterone levels is dubious. They tend to test a person one time . Testosterone levels fluctuate through out the day. Doctors don't take an average--just one test. The industry is not surprisingly booming.
Right, and also typically don’t even test free testosterone, only total. Ridiculous
If you get your test levels checked in a real medical setting and not a trt clinic you will always have them checked in the morning which is when your levels are the highest.
Yep. Saliva testing is preferable but rarely offered, and you definitely get different results depending on the time of day.
It truly doesn’t matter what time of day it’s checked, what matters is it being checked at least twice and the time of the day being consistent each time. There are studies out there showing there is no benefit to early in the day testosterone level tests. Not gonna bother searching for it I’ve already read em, google is your friend.
Why should people get their testosterone checked in the early morning when levels are the highest? Are people supposed to be okay with clinically low testosterone throughout the day just because it was not clinically low in the morning when levels are higher?
When the production quality is too good
I never used testosterone, or any other supplement, until I was 53. My T level was 535 even at 53 years old, but I was tired, didn't sleep well, wasn't seeing any gains in the gym and had difficulty losing belly fat. I started at 100 mg twice a week. Level jumped to over 1500. Dropped it to 60 mg twice a week. Level was still in the 1300's. I am now using 40 mg twice a week. Trying to keep my levels around 800-1000.
Sounds like a viable plan, as long as you feel good, and remain symptom free.
Wow. Your set looks stunning! 5yo me would dream of this lol
I’v been on TRT now for 8 years. No crazy dosing. T levels 800 to 1100. I love it! There are going to be risks of not taking it too, if you truly needed it in the first place. Mine is under the “care” of a nurse practitioner. I do advocate for men over 40 to have their levels checked and symptoms discussed. TRT, along with good nutrition, sleep and exercise can lead to optimal health as we age. I’m 52 and I look and feel great, and a very good quality of life!
TRT wrecked my cholesterol and my kidneys after 11 months. BP 140/90 so I had to stop. Been off for 5 months and feeling great. Somehow my natural testosterone rebounded to the low 500 (before TRT I was at 320)
yea, a lot of people will have the blood pressure reaction. The kidney issues I havent read about
@@airgunningyup your kidneys get messed up with high blood pressure and their filtration goes down.
Absolutely! There are 18 y.o. guys at my gym on 'TRT' running 250mg of Test E per week! Some of the are on 400mg per week for years...
TRT changed my life for the better!
Many just jump to TRT replacement. cut out bad habits first. start eating right, exercising, sleep, get off social medial and avoid crap food before taking chemicals.
The clinics that prescribe it put a hefty bounty on referrals. The biggest pusher of TRT I ever met kept bugging me to go to his clinic and get tested. I refused because I didn't see the reason. He's locked up now for shaking a baby.
I think that’s kind of a chicken and egg statement. Logically it sounds good, but personally speaking, it wasn’t happening. My energy level, mental clarity, mental health were all way too impacted before taking it that I’d have never hit a point of being “ready” to take it. Doing any gym work was not going to happen. Eating right was not going to happen.
13 weeks in. My weight is only down by 8 pounds, but my body composition has greatly changed (4 belt sizes down). Mental clarity is high, energy level is high, working out on a RP Hypertrophy 3x/week whole body is giving me great “newbie” gains.
Really, if someone has the mental clarity, energy level, and ability to get off of the bad habits without taking TRT, they probably should take a close look on if they really need it to begin with.
Given the negative attitudes to TRT in the NHS the headline is a little misleading - He obviously has no issue with TRT itself when properly managed.
Yes, a stupid click-baity headline, but what can you expect?
Yes. Agree. Probably to grab peeps attention
It's coz Chris wants to sell his garbage supplements now😂
@@Cheximus How many people will do it right and how many have the knowledge of Attia to avoid the risks??? 5% maximum
200 mg test a week, get psa levels checked yearly, blood pressure 110/60, 39 years old.
Loving it. Been enhanced for 5 years
Nice BP, best early indicator which people ignore
@@shallowkalthanks. I do bjj and a lot of cardio
How do you keep your BP that low
Mine was 260 at 35. The doctor told me that’s just above normal for my age. My one chesticle was lactading lol. Years later I found out about Panday Group. I got my prescription and my body feels way better for it. 🇨🇦
Started at 51. Nothing but good. Close friend was suffering from all the symptoms of depression. He started TRT and all of his symptoms vanished. Completely changed his life. Both of us are eating clean and exercising regularly to maximize the benefits. I’m 60 now and at 11% body fat.
IMO all men who are suffering symptoms of depression should have their T checked. My bet is many are mistakenly put on SSRI’s when in fact the problem is low T/higher than normal estrogen.
Oh my goodness I noticed my serotonin and dopamine levels improve IMMEDIATELY after starting T. I suffered for years from anxiety & panic attacks and now they're gone
It's interesting. My free T is the bottom of the range. Yet no depression.
Started TRT at 31 had a level of 6nmol and felt like shit permanently, worked out 6 days a week and ate clean but no change. TRT has now upped my levels to 29nmol and i feel like a new man. Want to preface that my symptoms only started once i had Covid and suffered for years before getting my bloodwork done.
54 now…started physiological doses with a urologist around age 47. Best thing I ever did. Keeps my peak under 1000 though. Average around 600
I just stopped TRT. Im 55 and it had too many negative side effects and potential risks. But if you like blood clots, high blood pressure, hypertension, an out of control sex drive. Go for it.
Yea, my BP went sky high. Not fun
@@John-sx1sb what really sucked is my Dr never once said it could have been from the TRT.
@ChannelEleven59 Mine actually said it would improve my BP, not increase it. I don't want to get into conspiracy theories here, but I did get the novavax, and I noticed my BP went up after that. Like waaaay up, but it also went way down after I came off TRT. The verdict is up in the air. Was it TRT, Vax, or a combo effect?? 🤔
@@John-sx1sb Increased BP is a known, documented possible side effect when doing TRT. So I dont think there is any conspiracy theory involved in this. I think that as with most treatments or medicines it depends on the individual.
But yes it could have been your vax. Im very leery of any covid vaccines when it comes to side effects and overall safety and effectiveness.
@ChannelEleven59 Just to ease my curiosity, I've been considering jumping back on a low dose...
That Jurassic Park background, damn!
Here is something that virtually no one ever mentions; once you get on the TRT train you are never getting off, especially if you are a middle-aged man. You will effectively and very possibly permanently destroy your body's ability to produce testosterone on its own. If there is ever a situation that prevents you from getting your treatment, you will be completely an utterly fucked. If you think your mood and physical sense of being was bad before, it will be 10 times worse should this ever happen. And it could happen, think of COVID, think of the current climate of the world. Nothing is guaranteed. If you do not need to be on TRT and 90% of the people taking it do not need to be on it, don't take it.
Can we talk about the background? IS this green screen?
UE5 volume
No, check out his "Behind the Scenes" (BTS) video about this.
No it’s a dinosaur skeleton
All that effort just for me to listen to it on Audio
I'm 33 with post finasteride syndrome, My dr didn't warn me of any potential dangers which is why I had no choice but to turn to TRT and in Australia you have to turn to the black market for supply which as stated in this video brings on its own set of risks that id much rather avoid.
Decreased testosterone with age is something that is natural and way God intended. We should start focusing on other things as we age, not sexual drive, and trying to turn back the clock. Taking testosterone will result in testes not producing it anymore and can result in increased prostate size and other side effects that might show up a lot later. Once you start, you might not be able to ever get off it, which creates dependency on it. This happened to me and even though I've have low testosterone my whole life, I prefer to not take any as I did in the past, since my energy level is fine and I can still do whatever I want. Sex drive is lower, but that's ok, since it's part of aging. I feel TRT is over prescribed and might not be the best thing for everyone to take, even at younger ages.
Doesn't sound like you're married or in a relationship.
I've been running 200mg of test cyp for the last 5 years non stop I have zero side affects absolutely nothing blood pressure is perfect I feel amazing I'm 45 I work out 5 or 6 times a week 30to45 min of cardio 5 days a week
Body builder who take many times more dose levels than those on TRT are walking proof that medically supervised physiological TRT plans are safe in my mind. I get pharmaceutical grade test and get a doctor visit every three months. Best thing I ever done for my health. I came off my blood pressure meds because of it. Started at 45 after testing my T levels around 120. So that is the most important part of this video.
34 years old still feel 18, played sports all my life... However if things change and I notice any significant declines or am diagnosed with lower end testosterone, I won't hesitate to use TRT in the future.
I am 62 and still feel 18 and still play a lot of sports - judo, boxing, surfing, skateboarding..... It's not a foregone conclusion that you will ever need it.
@@TakeItToTheGround at 62 you cant feel 18 lol stop lying
@@0zone_X-u9x No you are right. Not many 18 years old could keep up with me.....
I'm 65 and on trt. Prior to age 63 my testosterone was good but had been declining. In my earlier years my libido and testosterone was great. Any young guys going on exogenous testosterone are definitely damaging themselves. Parts of their dofies are literally shut off and imo that will effect other parts of their health. Exercise and diet should be all you need when younger.
45> is the age most poeple with symptoms need to look into it. Even, then taking care of other aspects like sleep and diet are the first approach.
Just as an FYI: my TRT clinic stopped being able to prescribe HCG, so they switched to Tamoxifen/Nolvadex which is very similar to clomid, take take to prevent ball shrinkage. After being on Nolvadex for months/year+ I noticed my libido was always low. I assumed it was a test dose issue, and it took a long time to realize it was the Nolvadex. So now I have to buy hcg from black market in order to prevent ball shrinkage due to being on TRT for years now
hCG improves libido and load size. You saying you’re forced to take it doesn’t make sense because it’s a performance enhancer.
Testasterone levels vary throughout the day. My understanding is even changing your posture can affect it. If i had to get on it i probably would. I think most people have bad sleep, bad diets, are overstressed, are sedentary. It can be raised naturally through diet, exercise and circumstances. Womens hormones are alot more predictable than mens, ours vary based on our environment. I would probably get on it if i had to but i wonder how many mens testasterone would be higher if their lifestyle was more balanced
The posture thing was shown to be a big bogus. That whole area of social science is going down the drain at the moment for methodological errors
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 gotcha good to know. That makes sense actually
I’ve been taking 200mg test a week for a year now. I’m 30 and I didn’t need it. I’m not using a doctor and I’m taking ugl test E eod, 25mg dhea on the AM and 10mg Pregnenolone before bed. I feel way better on it. I’m sick less, feel happier, more energetic and more stable mentally. Bad sleep or nights out don’t wreck me like they used to and I don’t want kids. It’s my body and I’ll do with it as I please.👍🏼
You are running a low dose steroid cycle
At 55, I started TRT this past April. Two words: GAME. CHANGER. Had my labs done in May, and all is good. I can’t say enough. If done properly, labs are checked, and diet is on point, you will definitely see the results in a good way.
Start trt in your late 30s early 40s just a touch up not mental levels just so you dont feel depressed and feel a it more youthful. Dont see anything wrong with that
Absolutely loving the comments on here. Keep it up men. Tell your story. As a 42yr male whos tried sleep supplements, vitamin D/Zinc/Magnesium/multi vitamin supps ect for over a year. Only to find their effects were useless for healthy test increases.
When my test was low naturally, i was lathagic, always tired, always sore, strength was terrible, mood swings, erection problems, weight gain, battling depression and suicidal thoughts at least twice a year......
Then i started TRT... and i got my life back. Become motivated in life, interacted with my kids more, got more done around the house, strength gains, cleaner moods and havent had a bout of depression since.
Best thing i did.. my test was at 3 - 8 nmol/L. Ironically i got the highest result when i didnt have any regular supps (vit D/zinc ect) in my system.
Did it make your heart race when you first got on it?
@@josephbanker3829 Not that i noticed. I am in shape and at a good weight. 3 months after, all my follow up tests were spot on with where my doctor wanted me to be.
Did u have a bad experience?
@dalekelly4384 my heart was fluttering pretty good, he said could have just been anxiety. I see the Dr again tomorrow.
@@josephbanker3829 sorry to hear man. Weird? Hows your sugar and caffeine intake?
@@josephbanker3829hey mate, a friend of mine on trt had the same reaction a few times. talked to his doc and he said it was comum. He didn’t feel it more than a few times. so you shouldn’t worry “i think”. but if you are anyways… talk to you doctor, dont wait ;)
Looking forward to the this one and just from this clip the back drop and edit is outstanding
I’m 43. Noticed a deep dive in sexual drive and energy. Had blood test done and showed my testosterone level was 212. I started TRT about 6 months ago and it has literally changed my life.
The title should be changed a bit just because again there are so many factors that come into play when you have a statement like that one. First and foremost he talks about knowing the difference between super physiological and therapeutic doses…. That right there is a difference between testosterone REPLACEMENT therapy and steroids pretty much in layman’s terms.. as far as fertility you can take HG if you plan on having kids. when it comes to your prostate or any other potential problems that can arise from TRT you do bloodwork every 3 to 6 months to make sure everything is in check. Getting your testosterone to at least above average best if it’s actually optimal is one of the best things you can do especially if you take bloodwork and have low testosterone. if a young guy is trying to go onto TRT and he already has pretty good levels of testosterone in his body around the range of 700 to 1200 then they really won’t see any difference with anything to be honest. and then he talks about how people are trying to get it online and it could be harmful to do that…. Well the point is not to get it online in the black market or whatever is to get it through a Doctor Who closely watches your blood work……. so in conclusion I’m trying to find out what is SO DANGEROUS about TRT if used properly which it actually is for the majority of people who actually need to take it. anything that is super physiological can’t even be called TRT because TRT stands for testosterone REPLACEMENT therapy. If you’re taking more than the normal amount than you are not really replacing testosterone in your body are you? I understand Chris wants to get the clicks…. Thank God for voice to text! Have a nice day everybody!
Nailed it. Anyone talking about TRT for physical performance reasons alone, isn't talking about TRT, they're talking about cruise dose PEDs.
What is considered more harmful long term? Ssri, Adderall or Trt?
Back in my bodybuilding days clomid was probably one of the most miserable compounds I ever used. I was a total emotional mess and my case want an isolated one…….many bodybuilders used to joke about crying while watching the notebook on clomid 😂
Shit you could watch Saving Private Ryan and start crying while on clomid. Lol
Hello Dr Attia,
As someone who’s been considering finasteride as a treatment to hair loss, what other and better alternative would you recommend?
i’m on TRT and I feel freakin awesome
How long till you noticed a difference? I just recently started a few weeks ago still very tired
Due to an opiod addiction (dont judge as you don't know my story) and other meds from treating a painful chronic condition I had two readings of undetectable levels. Imagine my shock. I had zero libido and erectile dysfunction. After 5 months I'm up inyo the mid range of my age so that is a good thing. Our marital bedroom life has resumed and psychological distress eased.
Peter Attia tomorrow...hellz yeah!!
As long as you use something and don't feel the side effect you'll never say it's bad to use that. Just going on fast frequently to get it back naturally. Moral of the fact is human nature prefers spend a lot of money on something than suffer to do the free work needed to sustain his life. But when it comes to train at the gym they do it religiously, but don't afford that amount of effort to do it with others stuff. Why? Because they love what is pleasing to their flesh. People don't like fasting but prefer eating and go on a calorie deficit which is fine too. They chose what they are attracted to.
Peter Attia is our MVP 🇨🇦
Where do most of the great Canadians live? 🇺🇸
Not sure that testosterone "would feed prostate cancer" (3:10). Morgenthaler is the doc to talk to about this. Attia's numbers for total testosterone, 800-900 ng/dl, is fairly conservative. He doesn't take patients over 1,000 ng/dl. I think Dr. Rouzier would have something to say about this.
I'm on medical trt because the brain cancer I had basically destroyed my pituitary gland and it took me years to get it but trans kids and other people just using trt to use it get it so quick and easy
Started trt 8 years ago and struggled to control estrogen side effects and hematocrit. Seems like I’m in the minority here but mixed results. Better energy and overall drive but the other sides makes me wonder if it’s worth it
Never thought id see a podcast in the movie 300 quality
I was at 200ng/dl from 15-22 and now on trt at 23 best decision ever
It's absolutely insane how normalized TRT is... it's like don't bother trying to actually fix your lifestyle, your habits, anything that might be lowering your Test levels.. just hop on TRT. I work with perfectly normal dudes in their late 20s early 30s on TRT and they just act like it's taking vitamins. Some guys certainly need it, but it's definitely not most.
Its just test brah
What a shocker, people manipulating their hormones see immediate benefits. No one seems to think about the fact that they’re still gonna need hormone replacement in 20 years. Your body shouldn’t be falling in your 30’s, 40’s or 50’s.
Most people lead very unhealthy lives and think taking something can help but in the end it's just a bandaid
Changed my life I’m healthier now at 40 than I’ve been in over a decade! I’m leaner my cholesterol and ldl dropped dramatically all my markers are perfect now with the added benefit of having more angry and drive. Sleep is better gym is better intimate life is on 🔥.
Damn, I’m impressed. I didn’t know Chris had the kind of pull with Disney that they would let him film in the volume. :)
There’s nothing impressive about Disney, unless you’re into kids!
@@sqwk2559 agreed. I was just joking about Where this interview was staged.
Trying to get on prescribed TRT is very stressful in itself. I tested between 350 and 640 on a few occasions. Tried to get my PCP on board due to symptoms as well as an online TRT clinic. Due to my numbers, I was too high and you have to jump through so many hoops. For anyone with depression, those hoops feel like mountains. Obviously one wants to be at least 800 so I was forced to go my own route. So sad that we can’t make our own medical choices.
I have the same numbers. How are you feeling now? Was it the right decision? I already have the vials here. But still hesitating.
People taking illicit gear and super physiological doses know the risks. We are not our brothers keepers
Love your vids/podcasts Chris, but this could have been better titled. It was a balanced opinion on the correct use and misuse of TRT.
As a 50 year old with a total T before TRT of 180 after multiple tests and severe symptomatology it drives me insane that young men are trying to cheat their way into hypertrophy with TRT because those of us that truly need it struggle as there are frequent shortages.
I couldn't get prescribed TRT until i transitioned to a woman and decided i was a man again. They gave me as much as i wanted
Started a year ago well after I turned 38.
My levels were just below 200 and I felt like garbage. Had a hard time losing weight, making gym gains, etc.
I let my Dr. administer it, blood work every 3 months, levels hover around 800ish. I feel great.
"Permanent loss of libido would be bad"... why exactly? Just as likely to be quite freeing you could argue.