Rick Rubin, I cannot thank you enough. Guiding John to open up so freely is truly a gift and then sharing those moments with us is beyond amazing. The rawness and honesty of those drug years is truly gut wrenching but leaves me only appreciating and celebrating the phoenix that is John Frusciante. Thank you again, these visits are absolute gold.
The universe wasn’t done with him yet. Knowing how messed up and close to death he was, and then seeing just how much he came back from that, to become an even better and more skilled version of himself, gives me hope that it’s never too late to turn things around and become the best version of myself too. I think his solo music especially speaks to people who have been trapped in dark times, with a sense of understanding, but also a way out.
I met him backstage at House of Blues in 97 on the ill fated Nutstalk tour...and he was in bad shape...I couldn't believe he turned things around so quickly and was back with the Chili's in late 98. When I met him..he was off Heroin (but clearly wasnt totally sober) and he just looked bad and was extremely irritable. He definitely got lucky. Most people who went as far down into addiction as he did...do not make it out alive
When he says It seemed like nobody wanted to be his friend, it makes me profoundly sad. Not just for him, but for anyone that's had that feeling before.
There are no real friends. You only have friends, because you benefit from them in one way or another. That's why nobody's friends with their arch enemy.
Same here - his solo music and his work with the RHCP have saved me thru the darkest periods... Once again (for like the _4th time!_ 🙄🤦♂️), I missed my chance to see them live just a couple nights ago and it truly devastated me! They played a epic, free benefit show in a tiny gym to 900 people with their full arena setup (I don't even know how they did it)... Every chance I get, either I have a medical emergency or a personal catastrophe and miss the show... feels like I'll never see them. Praying I get another chance soon 🙏
We got TWO incredible albums this year with the return of John. You can tell it's true that the band has been rejuvenated, and honestly, it feels like they're the best they've ever been. Got the see them in Toronto and it was easily the best concert I've seen. Long Live the Red Hot Chili Peppers!
DannyBDoe, which albums are you talking about? Unlimited love or whatever it’s called, is horrible. I’m a rhcp fan guy, but they haven’t put out a solid album since bssm.
@@mateosananto8594 they released two albums, unlimited love and dream canteen, and while nothing will ever be blood sugar, i felt stadium arcadium was their closest effort until these last 2 released this year, and while ive only heard them a couple times, there's a lot of strong funk going on which to me was what I've missed the most, but hey not every song is for everybody
@@mateosananto8594 wow you don’t like stadium Arcadium ? I’m young born in 99 so maybe I haven’t listened to the older stuff enough to appreciate it, but stadiums not bad imo lol
Man that part where he dives into the rough years is really intense. He almost sounds borderline in tears at some points, real pain. So happy he made it out and got better. One of my favorite artists and prob the most influential person for me musically. Great interview.
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
The love within John's soul and his passion to create beautiful sounding music, I am truly grateful that he has returned and I am alive today to experience the 2 joyful albums from this year. Seeing them live in Dublin earlier this year was a moment I will never forget. Love love love!
This is so insightful and sincere from John. It is incredible how he reflects on the things. The guy went to hell and back, but managed to rise above it all. Also, I couldn't imagine better person to interview John than Rick. Props to Rick for this interview.
Seriously the best interview I have ever heard. John Frusciante is probably the most real person ever and so humble and honest, its beyond words. Go to comments on any board or any RHCP video and they are filled about how the music got them through life. When John says that is his purpose and intention it speaks volumes to the character and person he is. They are still giving people this soundtrack for their life to this very day!!! 🌶❤️ forever grateful for their music and their purpose!
I remember reading an old John interview, I think for a solo album, and the interviewer asked “what made you include so many songs?” And he said something along the lines of “I didn’t wanna cut a song cause people will say how much a song means to them and even if I don’t think a song is good, who am I to take away what might help someone, even one person.”
Thanks for sharing this!! Awesome that he has used his art to inspire and connect with so many people. He has given back so much with his music and even though he knows the impact it has had on so many people, he probably doesn't realize the full extent it has had. So lucky this band is still making music 🌶🌶🌶🌶
Wow, I never have heard John being so open about all of these details of his past. When he knows the public will hear his memories of that time. Thank you so much for opening up about that period. Don't get me wrong, I find John is always very sensitive in his interviews and speaking his true feelings. But about this period, so detailed, I'd never heard. Thank you Rick Rubin, for giving John this trust and space. Just like you say you did, back in the day, when you visit John's house -although that must be really hard for you to see, you left John be in his value - as a true friend. Just like music is a true friend to all of us. I can relate to what John says. Just like Joy Division, Nirvana and Bob Marley were as a friend to John in a period, they were all friends to me too in periods of my own life. Glad that he thought about it that way, because John's music also brought me home many times. It was a true friend to me, in the moments I was by myself. Music is way better than therapy, I guess, if you love it deeply. And also it's always like a tsunami of inspiration for others, who are open to it. I began to paint, write, being a music-addict, since I was a youngster. And john's music was really the first wave that did that to me in that huge sense. Loving music made me the creative person I am today. And I always will be grateful for that, your were then and therefore still, will forever be my dear friend in sound. Your music connected to me in ways it got me fired up. And for that fact, I truly do love your creative soul and everything that came out from that. It's a really warm place to surf the waves of your creativity. Thank you for making waves -thank you for opening up.
Cant help but feel that keidis could not help but be a lil envious of how strong frusciantes connection to their audience is n how much people just love his magic. Thanku flea for bringing him bk.
John Frusciante put into words the reason why his music and the music of the Chili Peppers is so important to so many people: through the music, he is giving us friendship. We can feel our friend, the music, hugging us when we’re lonely and just being there for us when we need it most
John answers everything I’ve ever wanted to know about that era of the band that I just didn’t have answers to as a teenager and 20s. This is a very special interview. And I’m very grateful to have been at that Boston show he mentions.
So glad to hear the discussion around ‘Soul to squeeze’ .. was always one of my favorite RHCP songs and never understood why this wasn’t part of the album
@@Matt-ig4yk It totally does... I think they should be a bit louder but on this current tour his backup Vox sound great. They are subtle sometimes you wouldn't even notice but it would feel incomplete without them
@@BennieTarrMusic his voice is hauntingly beautiful have you not heard his solo album Curtains? It's one of the saddest albums of all time. I love sad music.
Gripping…can’t wait for pt.2….couldn’t quantify in words how much John’s music has inspired me in ever aspect of my life since blood sugar came out…I was 10…you’ve been in my heart and soul all the way soul to squeeze is my saving song….but I’m must say….Eddie is an absolute masterwork in everything I love about your songwriting thank you john…thank you for making through and still being here making beautiful music that enriches all our lives
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
John has always been someone who i idolized even before i knew who he really was. I was a singer, trumpet player and studied music but heroin destroyed my path and how i saw myself. Even 30 years later i never truly looked at how the music was written. I found 20 years after being homeless i got sober and found that when i would sing, i was a 2nd alto which is the harmony which is what john always would sing. Also, just have so much understanding of his life.
I was at the Boston one, and I could tell, even for them it was a special energy there that night. I've seen a lot of RHCP concerts too, but it just seemed unique that night. It's interesting to hear him say that directly now after having seen it first hand. Him confirming it is really amazing.
I love John and the Chili Peppers. Such a phenomenal band and so much talent. It's so sad to hear about how bad into drugs John was but it's amazing how he overcame his addiction and rose to the top once again. When I heard he had rejoined RHCP back in 2019, I cried. I was missing him for years and it just felt like everything was right in the world again. RHCP just wasn't the same without him. ❤
These interviews are a goldmine. I love John and Rick. I am a guitarist and musician myself so hearing John open up about melody, harmony, and rhythym is so valuable. I have loved the Chili Peppers since Blood Sugar and that is certainly my favorite Album but I also love Californication and their melodic and poppier side. They are all masters of their craft and true soul musicians. Somehow Rick is able to get them to reach higher levels with his pragmatic outsider's perspective. I am so glad John was able to beat his demons.
This was special...as a musician it really hit me as to be open to less aggressive to more aggressive ways of playing guitar. The idea of just being a team player then a virtuoso can really help the band so much.
Such an amazing album Return of the dream canteen is, that im still trying to process it and I will in the following months and years. Probably one of the best chili's albums of all. Thank you Broken Records and Rick for putting this podcast out. It is really interesting and fun to listen to you guys talk about life and music in general. Its a blessing.
These interviews are such an incredible and unexpected gift to longtime RHCP fans. I was at the UL Chicago show and it felt special in the way he described Boston. It was my 8th RHCP show (3rd with John), and I watched every clip of the UL tour on TH-cam, and it just seemed like they were taking it up a notch that night. Every song was perfect, and the improv jams were legendary. Anthony’s mom was there too.
He just proper loves music, doesn't he? Like the love of it - as an arranger, composer, fan, player, everything - just pours out of him. Even when he couldn't feel it any more it seems that he felt defined by not being able to love it in the way he was used to. What a remarkable, brave interview.
@@BennieTarrMusic Not God's gift to me, but a regular fella with a crazy story whose love of music has been the thing that has kept him going. For the record, I love a small section of his output (solo mid 90s) and tend to like the rest (RHCP, 00s solo guitar projects, 10s hanging out with Venetian Snares stuff), but always think he's worth a look when he drops something new because it could sound like anything from XTC to Xenakis.
Excellent interview.. so intriguing listening to John open up with someone he completely trusts.. The last minute of this interview is what true friendship sounds like.
This is amazing.. super grateful to Broken Record and Rick. So cool hearing John talk about a repeatable feeling from listening to some artists. Johns music did the same thing for me which I've never felt in the same way with another artist
John is the best. from one junky to another. people say they can't believe he survived, but after being on heroin and stimulants for almost 10 years, i saw many people go through alot of the same things that John went through-abscesses, loss of weight, loss of teeth, loss of sanity, loss of hope. there's always hope to come off and get clean. the sick junky culture and train of thought is prevalent in me, and for a long time i revered John for being such a hardcore junky. i Relate alot to when he said he owned his addiction, because i was alot like that. while everybody was making excuses, i was scoring and i was shooting up. "no crying till i'm in a pine box" i would always say. John is a true inspiration, for better or worse. It's great to hear his recovery story. It really is like having to re-learn life all over again. I got 15 months myself. Also... at least that bad time produced Niandra Lades! lol great album.
Footage of their Mothers Milk era live performances always blows me away, they had an incredible energy/vibe about them. Wish some of their Pinkpop shows or others, would get an HD release sometime. The only available ones on youtube are poor quality.
They have one I know of on you tube. Live on vrbo or something. Great sound. Was i guess a radio deal or something. Played 30 min worth of great tunes . 👌 check it out.
@@bradharvy13 Yeah the VPRO radio performance? yeah I love that one. No I just wish there were some HD versions of there Pinkpop shows with Frusciante. I think there were 2, 1989 and 1990, they are on youtube, and recorded professionally, but they're not HD, very grainy. Also the show they recorded for there Psychedelic Sexfunk Live from Heaven VHS. That must exist somewhere, but it's not available. They seemed incredible around that time, just wish someone would release HD versions or make a Blu Ray avaliable or something :)
@@kanthakathewhite1012 yeah that's amazing, I have a dvd of it. Just wish they would release HD versions of their shows around 1989-1990. They did record some professionally, they're only available in low quality on youtube :)
I had an official VHS, Psychedelic Sexfunk Live From Heaven, back in the day that was MM-era. Dunno if that's been released digitally? I remember my dad didn't like me watching it coz he thought it'd make me gay. "A lot of flesh on show there, isn't there?", lol.
This is just brilliant. We've heard a lot about these subjects before in interviews John's done over the years but none of them have been as personal as this. So interesting when he talks about that period between Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar and how he didn't think it would be ok for him to be bringing ideas and songs that were so outside the band's usual sound. Amazing how he didn't think of himself as being very good around that time either until very recently when he's looked back. Good to know he reflects back on things now in a better light. Also, mind blown to find out John didn't think anything of harmonies before Rick turned him onto the idea! When you consider how prominent they became on By the Way especially you would never guess John had to be convinced initially. Hopefully they do manage to keep up having these long conversations as I'm sure we could all listen for hours and never get bored.
John is one of my favorite guitar player and to hear him this way is fantastic. His likes in music spot on in my head too. So cool to hear this, can’t wait for the 2nd one. Been a peppers fan for a long time. I attended a show of many but one sticks out at SUNY Albany in 89 I believe. But I herd John playing Hendrix and was outside at the time. I couldn’t get in fast enough. Unbelievable show. So glad you are well John. Your music is needed.
I’m not a massive RHCP fan but I’ve always respected John as guitar player and as a person and all of these interviews with Rick have just completely fascinated me. These 2 are just on this whole other wavelength from your typical producer/musician type people. Maybe it’s the meditation thing but they’re just so humble and soulful but yet so passionate about making music. It’s just beautiful to listen to. I could listen to 10 more installments of this
I was in the pit at the show in Boston! And what a show it was! Every member of the band was on point, but I kept finding myself watching John. That man is on another level
I'm so happy we're getting more insight into the band, especially from John. I was wondering why his energy was so low since he came back this time. It's great to actually hear it from the horse's mouth. Thanks Rick. Thanks John.
Absolutely beautiful conversation. Thank you for sharing this ! John frusciante hits my soul with his music and his words in such an inspirational manner . You guys are human treasures!
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
Funny JF mentioned the BSSM snare/kit - I had wondered about this . To me the sound of those drums in that room helped turn the recording into a living thing. BSSM is like a sonic photograph of real musical energy.
I love how John remembers his memories through music. He remembers what album he was listening to at a certain point in his life, or right where he was when the idea for a song popped into his head. That’s really fascinating
Im so glad this was produced. I loved reading the autobiographies of flea and anthony but they left me wanting more. This is exactly what ive been looking for
Good god, as I was standing outside last night, smoking a cigarette and listening to the new record I thought to myself: «dang, I really hope we get another Broken Record episode with the chili peppers, especially John, I really loved that». And here we are, prayers answered😅 Thanks for this amazing podcast! Edit: This is the best interview EVER, done, no discussion. Wow, just wow🤯
Yes i cant wait for the next part and I was going to re-listen to the old ones from UL release and then I saw this this morning and it made a good say even better
I saw them in Charlotte and I’m so happy the band looks and sounds healthy, especially John. Missed him dearly and he is truly an artist’s artist. I hope to meet him even if for just a few minutes one day.
Love to Rick for this awesome conversation and his amazing job producing the RHCP, and all my love, admiration and respect for John for all the amazing music he give us!
Reflecting back at this time of Blood Sugar, it’s amazing to me that they were telepathing a new consciousness by just going with their gut and what they were listening to. The “party” of the 80s was over, and I remember myself being more brooding, and that felt like the temperature of the times. This and Nevermind came out about the same time and that seemed to be what we were all feeling at that time around ‘91, when it felt like the 90s had really started.
BSSM and Nevermind dropped on the SAME DAY, and the world was never quite the same. Unfortunately, I was only 6 months old at the time, but I feel so incredibly fortunate to exist in an age where - despite the dark side of digital communication - it's possible to relive it at the drop of a dime. What you say here confirms all the suspicions I had about that period in time, based solely on historical observation and listening to an abundance of records in chronological order.
@@ignatiusjackson235 Yep, I can say in my world at this time, it was these, Dinosaur Jr., Smashing Pumpkins (Gish) and later that year Pavement hit the scene. Also fascinating to me, it was the British music that was more enduring for me and in contrast to the mood of American music at that time. Stone Roses, My Bloody Valentine, Lush, Ride was sultrier, softer, often more positive feeling. Totally different vibe and it seemed there were two different crowds who gravitated more towards one or the other. Gish was the outlier. It sounded British. But everything after sounded much more American indie to me. The lens I see much of the consciousness through is economics and politics. You can trace these together with the music of the times.
@@terrysowers8983 Good stuff, indeed. I agree with you about the politics of the era, too. A full dozen years of Reagan and Bush left us in pretty bad shape - let's not even get into Thatcher in the UK - and, even though Clinton turned out to be a corporate fraud, there was initially a sense of "yearning" for some sort of change, something "real" - that extended to every element of life, including music and politics. It didn't last very long, but the height of it all might have been the 1992 MTV VMA's. The backlash against the PMRC and "Satanic panic" in the '80s was pretty much in decline by the time Nirvana broke through. It seems like that wave of alternative rock coincided with a massive cultural wave of "getting back" to some semblance of "reality" after all the hairspray and synthesizers, etc.
Wow. This only increased my interest in John; it got very real towards the end and it was fascinating and relatable when he was talking about his mental health and the "trippier" things that people go through sometimes. Absolutely captivating.
Was at the DC show (womp womp). I didn't think it was a bad effort on his part. They did have an early miscue on Dani California and also came in early on right on time. My group left very happy. Wish I could have seen Boston.
The part where Rick says that John was missing teeth and the walls were covered in blood/vomit is really intense. I’m glad John moved past that period in his life and went on to start recording and touring again
I wish i could just hang with John and just go through so many records with him. You can hear his passion for music whenever he's talking about other songs or other records. Music is just oozing out of him and it shows when he plays. I just wanna listen to record after record with him.
Thank you sooo much for this Series you started to do with John. Its so amazing hearing him talk about all of these things from the past. And that fact that you made him even talk a little bit about his darker days when he was going through his drug addiction was even more amazing since I wouldn't have expect John to talk about his experience and thoughts during that time period so openly. But then again he is getting older and maybe its a good way of resolving allot of stuff.
I love to hear the background details on their music from John. You can really tell the amount of thought he puts into creating music, and the many influences he draws upon.
I actually had to interrupt this beautiful exchange to go listen to the music. Its my (and possibly my generations) Rolling Stones. It was the perfect combination of the best sounds of the late 60's perfected through another generation that possibly remembers bass lines from the womb. I could write a book about this bandas influence in my musical, romantic, angry and spiritual life. True Men. Thanks!
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
Don't miss the rest of Rick Rubin's interviews with the Red Hot Chili Peppers here: th-cam.com/play/PLB9oRc9hOj9js8FqWdRKE86eV8ZEIfxAJ.html
Thank you!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Rick Rubin, I cannot thank you enough. Guiding John to open up so freely is truly a gift and then sharing those moments with us is beyond amazing. The rawness and honesty of those drug years is truly gut wrenching but leaves me only appreciating and celebrating the phoenix that is John Frusciante. Thank you again, these visits are absolute gold.
He is definitely pheonex; what a delight to see him soaring again!
welp….that was well said.
Amen! Well said!
Phoenix is not a good analogy.
@@musicowned 😂😂😂
The simple fact John's still alive is a miracle. Glad he's still around and making music for us to enjoy.
Destiny.
Or worse than death. He was close to loosing his arm. Imagine not being able to do your passion, that would be painful
@@unknownuser0006 He would have learned to play the guitar with his feet
The universe wasn’t done with him yet. Knowing how messed up and close to death he was, and then seeing just how much he came back from that, to become an even better and more skilled version of himself, gives me hope that it’s never too late to turn things around and become the best version of myself too. I think his solo music especially speaks to people who have been trapped in dark times, with a sense of understanding, but also a way out.
I met him backstage at House of Blues in 97 on the ill fated Nutstalk tour...and he was in bad shape...I couldn't believe he turned things around so quickly and was back with the Chili's in late 98. When I met him..he was off Heroin (but clearly wasnt totally sober) and he just looked bad and was extremely irritable. He definitely got lucky. Most people who went as far down into addiction as he did...do not make it out alive
When he says It seemed like nobody wanted to be his friend, it makes me profoundly sad. Not just for him, but for anyone that's had that feeling before.
Feel that right now
@@exotic.olive.oil.taster.1999 life is hard but there is always interesting people who will help and love you
@@exotic.olive.oil.taster.19994 months later I hope you’re in a better place. Lots of love
There are no real friends. You only have friends, because you benefit from them in one way or another. That's why nobody's friends with their arch enemy.
John is one the most beautiful souls in this world. His solo records saved my life when I was in a dark place of my own. 💖
Same here - his solo music and his work with the RHCP have saved me thru the darkest periods...
Once again (for like the _4th time!_ 🙄🤦♂️), I missed my chance to see them live just a couple nights ago and it truly devastated me! They played a epic, free benefit show in a tiny gym to 900 people with their full arena setup (I don't even know how they did it)... Every chance I get, either I have a medical emergency or a personal catastrophe and miss the show... feels like I'll never see them.
Praying I get another chance soon 🙏
me too. I also collect his solo albums on vinyl. So expensive though...
Just heard song to sing when I'm lonely
I don't know any other songs
@@quicklicks5963 Listen to When Shadows Collide with People, the whole album is a gem.
We got TWO incredible albums this year with the return of John. You can tell it's true that the band has been rejuvenated, and honestly, it feels like they're the best they've ever been. Got the see them in Toronto and it was easily the best concert I've seen. Long Live the Red Hot Chili Peppers!
I was at the Toronto show too, incredible, the whole night was such a euphoric vibe !! Happiest crowd I've ever seen leaving a show 😊
@@northerngurl6178 I don’t think he missed one note at that show!
DannyBDoe, which albums are you talking about? Unlimited love or whatever it’s called, is horrible. I’m a rhcp fan guy, but they haven’t put out a solid album since bssm.
@@mateosananto8594 they released two albums, unlimited love and dream canteen, and while nothing will ever be blood sugar, i felt stadium arcadium was their closest effort until these last 2 released this year, and while ive only heard them a couple times, there's a lot of strong funk going on which to me was what I've missed the most, but hey not every song is for everybody
@@mateosananto8594 wow you don’t like stadium Arcadium ? I’m young born in 99 so maybe I haven’t listened to the older stuff enough to appreciate it, but stadiums not bad imo lol
It is imposible not to love John Frusciante
unless you're a fan of river phoenix
@@copyrightcharacter1166 That kid made his own choices and no one was responsible for them besides him.
@@copyrightcharacter1166 wrong, I love them both!
@@copyrightcharacter1166 😂😂 this guy gets it
@@DweeD1516 So, a friend gives you a spiked drink and you die, is that your responsibility?
Man that part where he dives into the rough years is really intense. He almost sounds borderline in tears at some points, real pain. So happy he made it out and got better. One of my favorite artists and prob the most influential person for me musically. Great interview.
Soul to Squeeze is an absolute masterpiece, and interesting to hear why it didn't make the cut.
This is helping me emotionally and mentally in a difficult time. Sitting here with my guitar passively playing makes me feel so at peace. Thank you
I feel you. I don't play in bands anymore but the comfort in sitting alone and playing guitar never fades
Dude, yes!!!!
There's so much great musical history with John. I could listen to these guys talk forever. Great stuff Rick!
John definitely is one of the ones that “make you feel better”
He’ll make you feel fabulous
Something out there
Where love is your only friend and
We are the ones
That will make you feel better
John is beautiful in every way, can't wait for the next part. Good to hear him so engaged and chatty with Rick.
Chatty John is inspiring AF
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
The love within John's soul and his passion to create beautiful sounding music, I am truly grateful that he has returned and I am alive today to experience the 2 joyful albums from this year. Seeing them live in Dublin earlier this year was a moment I will never forget. Love love love!
Dude…today is like a massive dopamine dump bridging my childhood to adulthood.
Rick and John -thanks for all you live to do
This is so insightful and sincere from John. It is incredible how he reflects on the things. The guy went to hell and back, but managed to rise above it all. Also, I couldn't imagine better person to interview John than Rick. Props to Rick for this interview.
Yes,he's one of the few that has made it out alive.never really thought about that
Absolutely loved this conversation. Very genuine and soulful. So glad to have new John material!
Seriously the best interview I have ever heard. John Frusciante is probably the most real person ever and so humble and honest, its beyond words. Go to comments on any board or any RHCP video and they are filled about how the music got them through life. When John says that is his purpose and intention it speaks volumes to the character and person he is. They are still giving people this soundtrack for their life to this very day!!! 🌶❤️ forever grateful for their music and their purpose!
I remember reading an old John interview, I think for a solo album, and the interviewer asked “what made you include so many songs?” And he said something along the lines of “I didn’t wanna cut a song cause people will say how much a song means to them and even if I don’t think a song is good, who am I to take away what might help someone, even one person.”
Thanks for sharing this!! Awesome that he has used his art to inspire and connect with so many people. He has given back so much with his music and even though he knows the impact it has had on so many people, he probably doesn't realize the full extent it has had. So lucky this band is still making music 🌶🌶🌶🌶
"Humble" is not a word that applies to this egomaniac.
So absolutely grateful to have these guys back with John. Cannot wait to dig into canteen tonight.
Wow, I never have heard John being so open about all of these details of his past. When he knows the public will hear his memories of that time. Thank you so much for opening up about that period. Don't get me wrong, I find John is always very sensitive in his interviews and speaking his true feelings. But about this period, so detailed, I'd never heard. Thank you Rick Rubin, for giving John this trust and space. Just like you say you did, back in the day, when you visit John's house -although that must be really hard for you to see, you left John be in his value - as a true friend. Just like music is a true friend to all of us. I can relate to what John says. Just like Joy Division, Nirvana and Bob Marley were as a friend to John in a period, they were all friends to me too in periods of my own life. Glad that he thought about it that way, because John's music also brought me home many times. It was a true friend to me, in the moments I was by myself. Music is way better than therapy, I guess, if you love it deeply. And also it's always like a tsunami of inspiration for others, who are open to it. I began to paint, write, being a music-addict, since I was a youngster. And john's music was really the first wave that did that to me in that huge sense. Loving music made me the creative person I am today. And I always will be grateful for that, your were then and therefore still, will forever be my dear friend in sound. Your music connected to me in ways it got me fired up. And for that fact, I truly do love your creative soul and everything that came out from that. It's a really warm place to surf the waves of your creativity. Thank you for making waves -thank you for opening up.
Boring heroin guy...
i’ve been waiting for like 20 years for this conversation to happen. thx John and Rick!
Thank you Rick and Broken Record Podcast for this invaluable interview! We love you John and Rick!
Cant help but feel that keidis could not help but be a lil envious of how strong frusciantes connection to their audience is n how much people just love his magic. Thanku flea for bringing him bk.
John Frusciante put into words the reason why his music and the music of the Chili Peppers is so important to so many people: through the music, he is giving us friendship. We can feel our friend, the music, hugging us when we’re lonely and just being there for us when we need it most
Rick is the perfect person to interview John! He just knows how to put people at ease and let them open up. Thanks for sharing this with us!
This is everything I ever wanted in an interview
John answers everything I’ve ever wanted to know about that era of the band that I just didn’t have answers to as a teenager and 20s. This is a very special interview. And I’m very grateful to have been at that Boston show he mentions.
Oh part 2 yay!!!! I can't wait to see frusciante with the band next year when they come to Australia ❤
So glad to hear the discussion around ‘Soul to squeeze’ .. was always one of my favorite RHCP songs and never understood why this wasn’t part of the album
Shoutout to Rick for giving John the courage to do harmony vocals. He has some of the coolest harmony vocal parts
And yet it's never ever really worked live
@@Matt-ig4yk It totally does... I think they should be a bit louder but on this current tour his backup Vox sound great. They are subtle sometimes you wouldn't even notice but it would feel incomplete without them
He pushes the envelope by singing in a monotone and calling it "harmony".
@@BennieTarrMusic his voice is hauntingly beautiful have you not heard his solo album Curtains? It's one of the saddest albums of all time. I love sad music.
Sure
Gripping…can’t wait for pt.2….couldn’t quantify in words how much John’s music has inspired me in ever aspect of my life since blood sugar came out…I was 10…you’ve been in my heart and soul all the way soul to squeeze is my saving song….but I’m must say….Eddie is an absolute masterwork in everything I love about your songwriting thank you john…thank you for making through and still being here making beautiful music that enriches all our lives
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
"I feel like I'm just getting warmed up." ❤️
John has always been someone who i idolized even before i knew who he really was. I was a singer, trumpet player and studied music but heroin destroyed my path and how i saw myself. Even 30 years later i never truly looked at how the music was written. I found 20 years after being homeless i got sober and found that when i would sing, i was a 2nd alto which is the harmony which is what john always would sing. Also, just have so much understanding of his life.
So nice to see John say Boston was one of the best nights on the tour. I was there it was beautiful.
14:46
Awesome!!!! Part one was so inciteful, nice to hear John Talk in so much depth.
And so comfortable too!!!
* insightful
I was at the Boston one, and I could tell, even for them it was a special energy there that night. I've seen a lot of RHCP concerts too, but it just seemed unique that night. It's interesting to hear him say that directly now after having seen it first hand. Him confirming it is really amazing.
I love John and the Chili Peppers. Such a phenomenal band and so much talent. It's so sad to hear about how bad into drugs John was but it's amazing how he overcame his addiction and rose to the top once again. When I heard he had rejoined RHCP back in 2019, I cried. I was missing him for years and it just felt like everything was right in the world again. RHCP just wasn't the same without him. ❤
These interviews are a goldmine. I love John and Rick. I am a guitarist and musician myself so hearing John open up about melody, harmony, and rhythym is so valuable. I have loved the Chili Peppers since Blood Sugar and that is certainly my favorite Album but I also love Californication and their melodic and poppier side. They are all masters of their craft and true soul musicians. Somehow Rick is able to get them to reach higher levels with his pragmatic outsider's perspective. I am so glad John was able to beat his demons.
incredible insight, you can tell how comfortable John is with Rick. Looking forward to the next part!
This was special...as a musician it really hit me as to be open to less aggressive to more aggressive ways of playing guitar. The idea of just being a team player then a virtuoso can really help the band so much.
Such an amazing album Return of the dream canteen is, that im still trying to process it and I will in the following months and years. Probably one of the best chili's albums of all. Thank you Broken Records and Rick for putting this podcast out. It is really interesting and fun to listen to you guys talk about life and music in general. Its a blessing.
These interviews are such an incredible and unexpected gift to longtime RHCP fans.
I was at the UL Chicago show and it felt special in the way he described Boston. It was my 8th RHCP show (3rd with John), and I watched every clip of the UL tour on TH-cam, and it just seemed like they were taking it up a notch that night. Every song was perfect, and the improv jams were legendary. Anthony’s mom was there too.
He just proper loves music, doesn't he? Like the love of it - as an arranger, composer, fan, player, everything - just pours out of him. Even when he couldn't feel it any more it seems that he felt defined by not being able to love it in the way he was used to. What a remarkable, brave interview.
He's not god's gift to music. The Frusciante-worship is really irritating.
@@BennieTarrMusic Not God's gift to me, but a regular fella with a crazy story whose love of music has been the thing that has kept him going. For the record, I love a small section of his output (solo mid 90s) and tend to like the rest (RHCP, 00s solo guitar projects, 10s hanging out with Venetian Snares stuff), but always think he's worth a look when he drops something new because it could sound like anything from XTC to Xenakis.
John plays his guitar with amazing feeling, so gifted and talented-the best!
Yes, please do another one!!🙏🙏
This is the most I’ve ever heard John open up in conversation. Very special💚
Excellent interview.. so intriguing listening to John open up with someone he completely trusts..
The last minute of this interview is what true friendship sounds like.
Enthralling conversation.
Being a professional musician myself & an unapologetic fan boy of both these guys, this is pure gold.
Thanks fellas.. x
I could listen to Rick and John talk all day long... such great chemistry
This is amazing.. super grateful to Broken Record and Rick. So cool hearing John talk about a repeatable feeling from listening to some artists. Johns music did the same thing for me which I've never felt in the same way with another artist
This is going to be the most sacred musician series that artists will look at for generations to come
John is the best. from one junky to another. people say they can't believe he survived, but after being on heroin and stimulants for almost 10 years, i saw many people go through alot of the same things that John went through-abscesses, loss of weight, loss of teeth, loss of sanity, loss of hope. there's always hope to come off and get clean. the sick junky culture and train of thought is prevalent in me, and for a long time i revered John for being such a hardcore junky. i Relate alot to when he said he owned his addiction, because i was alot like that. while everybody was making excuses, i was scoring and i was shooting up. "no crying till i'm in a pine box" i would always say. John is a true inspiration, for better or worse. It's great to hear his recovery story. It really is like having to re-learn life all over again. I got 15 months myself. Also... at least that bad time produced Niandra Lades! lol great album.
Glad to hear you got better. Niandra is a wonderful record I agree
Nice work on getting clean brother
Footage of their Mothers Milk era live performances always blows me away, they had an incredible energy/vibe about them. Wish some of their Pinkpop shows or others, would get an HD release sometime. The only available ones on youtube are poor quality.
They have one I know of on you tube.
Live on vrbo or something.
Great sound. Was i guess a radio deal or something.
Played 30 min worth of great tunes . 👌 check it out.
Live at Slane Castle 🏰
@@bradharvy13 Yeah the VPRO radio performance? yeah I love that one. No I just wish there were some HD versions of there Pinkpop shows with Frusciante. I think there were 2, 1989 and 1990, they are on youtube, and recorded professionally, but they're not HD, very grainy. Also the show they recorded for there Psychedelic Sexfunk Live from Heaven VHS. That must exist somewhere, but it's not available. They seemed incredible around that time, just wish someone would release HD versions or make a Blu Ray avaliable or something :)
@@kanthakathewhite1012 yeah that's amazing, I have a dvd of it. Just wish they would release HD versions of their shows around 1989-1990. They did record some professionally, they're only available in low quality on youtube :)
I had an official VHS, Psychedelic Sexfunk Live From Heaven, back in the day that was MM-era. Dunno if that's been released digitally? I remember my dad didn't like me watching it coz he thought it'd make me gay. "A lot of flesh on show there, isn't there?", lol.
Yessssss, I’ve been waiting on this ❤
This is just brilliant. We've heard a lot about these subjects before in interviews John's done over the years but none of them have been as personal as this. So interesting when he talks about that period between Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar and how he didn't think it would be ok for him to be bringing ideas and songs that were so outside the band's usual sound. Amazing how he didn't think of himself as being very good around that time either until very recently when he's looked back. Good to know he reflects back on things now in a better light. Also, mind blown to find out John didn't think anything of harmonies before Rick turned him onto the idea! When you consider how prominent they became on By the Way especially you would never guess John had to be convinced initially. Hopefully they do manage to keep up having these long conversations as I'm sure we could all listen for hours and never get bored.
Boring heroin guy.
This is the holy grail. Everything i wanted to know and hear about John, has been exposed here by Rick. Can’t wait for the 2nd part!
What a beautiful conversation. Thank you John, Thank you Rick and God Bless you both.
I always have ears for John's self-assessment on the band as well as his own playing... a real prodigy (all of these years later...)
Two absolute legends. I’m out for words
John is one of my favorite guitar player and to hear him this way is fantastic. His likes in music spot on in my head too. So cool to hear this, can’t wait for the 2nd one. Been a peppers fan for a long time. I attended a show of many but one sticks out at SUNY Albany in 89 I believe. But I herd John playing Hendrix and was outside at the time. I couldn’t get in fast enough. Unbelievable show. So glad you are well John. Your music is needed.
I’m not a massive RHCP fan but I’ve always respected John as guitar player and as a person and all of these interviews with Rick have just completely fascinated me. These 2 are just on this whole other wavelength from your typical producer/musician type people. Maybe it’s the meditation thing but they’re just so humble and soulful but yet so passionate about making music. It’s just beautiful to listen to. I could listen to 10 more installments of this
He used his parents money to have Slovak killed and make it look like an overdose.
I was in the pit at the show in Boston! And what a show it was! Every member of the band was on point, but I kept finding myself watching John. That man is on another level
I'm so happy we're getting more insight into the band, especially from John. I was wondering why his energy was so low since he came back this time. It's great to actually hear it from the horse's mouth. Thanks Rick. Thanks John.
That guy is an egomaniac.
@@BennieTarrMusic He's a rock star.
Dear god please do a dozen more of these with John... such fascinating conversation! I love this band and it's members more and more each day
We need at least 10 more of these with John.
He's putting out a ten record set of himself farting into a microphone, and you will worship it.
Absolutely beautiful conversation.
Thank you for sharing this ! John frusciante hits my soul with his music and his words in such an inspirational manner . You guys are human treasures!
Wow, what an interview.
So amazing to hear John go so deep into his story.
Thank you for your art!
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
Funny JF mentioned the BSSM snare/kit - I had wondered about this . To me the sound of those drums in that room helped turn the recording into a living thing. BSSM is like a sonic photograph of real musical energy.
I love how John remembers his memories through music. He remembers what album he was listening to at a certain point in his life, or right where he was when the idea for a song popped into his head. That’s really fascinating
Im so glad this was produced. I loved reading the autobiographies of flea and anthony but they left me wanting more. This is exactly what ive been looking for
Good god, as I was standing outside last night, smoking a cigarette and listening to the new record I thought to myself: «dang, I really hope we get another Broken Record episode with the chili peppers, especially John, I really loved that». And here we are, prayers answered😅 Thanks for this amazing podcast!
Edit: This is the best interview EVER, done, no discussion. Wow, just wow🤯
how's the new stuff? Haven't had a single bit of it yet
@@vladrileynavilys it’s pretty damn good👌👌
@@vladrileynavilys very experimental
Yes i cant wait for the next part and I was going to re-listen to the old ones from UL release and then I saw this this morning and it made a good say even better
I agree, I was almost excited about this interview as I was for the new album ❤
The interview I've been waiting for 🤍
Such a beautiful conversation 💜 thank you Rick and thank you John for opening up like this 💟
Everytime I hear John, It reminds me how fuckin special he is. I've been idolizing this dude since 1992, he is such a g, so real and honest.
damn, this is gold but i wish this was video format. love john and youre a great interviewer.
thank u for this
THE best John Frusciante interview
The shared transparency about John’s struggles are a revelation.
I love John, this discussion was so natural and made me feel so good, can’t wait for part 3
He's putting out a ten record set of himself farting into a microphone and you will worship it.... :-p
Rick is the artist whisperer! Welcome back to the band John! Loved the mile high show.
I saw them in Charlotte and I’m so happy the band looks and sounds healthy, especially John. Missed him dearly and he is truly an artist’s artist. I hope to meet him even if for just a few minutes one day.
Love to Rick for this awesome conversation and his amazing job producing the RHCP, and all my love, admiration and respect for John for all the amazing music he give us!
I live here now! Two of my favourite people not only together but realising the spirit that focus brings. Amazing and thanks for the tunes
This might be the greatest interview I’ve ever heard… I don’t know who’s better with their words. Bravo gents 👏
Reflecting back at this time of Blood Sugar, it’s amazing to me that they were telepathing a new consciousness by just going with their gut and what they were listening to. The “party” of the 80s was over, and I remember myself being more brooding, and that felt like the temperature of the times. This and Nevermind came out about the same time and that seemed to be what we were all feeling at that time around ‘91, when it felt like the 90s had really started.
BSSM and Nevermind dropped on the SAME DAY, and the world was never quite the same. Unfortunately, I was only 6 months old at the time, but I feel so incredibly fortunate to exist in an age where - despite the dark side of digital communication - it's possible to relive it at the drop of a dime. What you say here confirms all the suspicions I had about that period in time, based solely on historical observation and listening to an abundance of records in chronological order.
@@ignatiusjackson235 Yep, I can say in my world at this time, it was these, Dinosaur Jr., Smashing Pumpkins (Gish) and later that year Pavement hit the scene. Also fascinating to me, it was the British music that was more enduring for me and in contrast to the mood of American music at that time. Stone Roses, My Bloody Valentine, Lush, Ride was sultrier, softer, often more positive feeling. Totally different vibe and it seemed there were two different crowds who gravitated more towards one or the other. Gish was the outlier. It sounded British. But everything after sounded much more American indie to me. The lens I see much of the consciousness through is economics and politics. You can trace these together with the music of the times.
@@terrysowers8983 Good stuff, indeed. I agree with you about the politics of the era, too. A full dozen years of Reagan and Bush left us in pretty bad shape - let's not even get into Thatcher in the UK - and, even though Clinton turned out to be a corporate fraud, there was initially a sense of "yearning" for some sort of change, something "real" - that extended to every element of life, including music and politics. It didn't last very long, but the height of it all might have been the 1992 MTV VMA's. The backlash against the PMRC and "Satanic panic" in the '80s was pretty much in decline by the time Nirvana broke through. It seems like that wave of alternative rock coincided with a massive cultural wave of "getting back" to some semblance of "reality" after all the hairspray and synthesizers, etc.
Great conversation! I could listen to Rick and John talk about music all day.
Wow. This only increased my interest in John; it got very real towards the end and it was fascinating and relatable when he was talking about his mental health and the "trippier" things that people go through sometimes. Absolutely captivating.
I was at the Boston show. Can confirm he was feeling it
Was at the DC show (womp womp). I didn't think it was a bad effort on his part. They did have an early miscue on Dani California and also came in early on right on time. My group left very happy. Wish I could have seen Boston.
I was at DC as well and could tell he wasn’t into it… still a great show (I’m guessing the group hug was an effort to boost his spirits).
@@kellygrahamtamai6504 I guess whatever he was feeling and the Dani California botch was irritating
@@patramplin6017I too was at Fenway and it was incredible
The part where Rick says that John was missing teeth and the walls were covered in blood/vomit is really intense. I’m glad John moved past that period in his life and went on to start recording and touring again
Me too🙏🙏🙏🥹🥹
And John said he is just warming up and looking towards next year 😊
I wish i could just hang with John and just go through so many records with him. You can hear his passion for music whenever he's talking about other songs or other records. Music is just oozing out of him and it shows when he plays. I just wanna listen to record after record with him.
Same
Yeah, boring hipster heroin music...
This was a really wonderful listen. Looking forward to future talk(s) between these two, really hope they can get to it.
Thank you sooo much for this Series you started to do with John. Its so amazing hearing him talk about all of these things from the past. And that fact that you made him even talk a little bit about his darker days when he was going through his drug addiction was even more amazing since I wouldn't have expect John to talk about his experience and thoughts during that time period so openly. But then again he is getting older and maybe its a good way of resolving allot of stuff.
All four of these are some of the best interviews ever ❤️
I love to hear the background details on their music from John. You can really tell the amount of thought he puts into creating music, and the many influences he draws upon.
I actually had to interrupt this beautiful exchange to go listen to the music. Its my (and possibly my generations) Rolling Stones. It was the perfect combination of the best sounds of the late 60's perfected through another generation that possibly remembers bass lines from the womb. I could write a book about this bandas influence in my musical, romantic, angry and spiritual life. True Men. Thanks!
1:14:06 "the guitar God guy".....John Frusciante! Great interview! Learned a lot.
Absolute gem for live long fan of John
Thank you for pushing through that DC show. A night I will never forget
Soooo interesting. Ibe been waiting for 20 years for such a real in depth talk with JF.
I love him hes amazing
Jesus Christ, the Hollywood celebrity worship is sickening. He would be homeless if he wasn't famous. This is what happens when people get their asses kissed nonstop from a very young age.
"I enjoy practicing all the time. That's the main thing I do.. is just practice". John Frusciante
By far one of the best things I've ever listened to in these series. What a journey.