Direct Examination of Amber Heard's Witness Psychologist Dr. Dawn Hughes (Johnny Depp v Amber Heard)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2022
- During the defamation trial on Tuesday, Amber Heard's legal team called Dr. Dawn Hughes to the stand. Dr. Hughes testified on what Heard reported to her during her marriage with Johnny Depp. Dr. Hughes also stated she disagrees with the findings of Dr. Shannon Curry, the psychologist called to the stand by Depp's legal team.
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How can she even include Johnny in her assessments if he wasn’t tested by her? I don’t get it
Or was he tested by her and I missed it?
No, u didn’t miss anything, u r right
She's said she's never met with or spoken to Johnny Depp. She reached her conclusion through talking to Amber, talking to Amber's various Therapists about what Amber reported to them and looking through 'evidence' provided by Amber.
Apparently this was enough to provide her with insight into the relationship without speaking to Johnny Depp himself
Dr Hughes keeps saying “there was a time when Johnny did X”. There is NO independent evidence of any of it. Dr Hughes is only repeating what Amber told her. Dr Hughes hasn’t even spoken to Johnny to ask whether any of those stories are true.
@@deniseketo His team might bring this up to use against them later on
Exactly! She should have talked to him too but she didn't so she can't say anything about him. She is going by Amber's word only, and it's been proven, she lies!
Amber basically put Depp in hospital - and Dr Karen calls that “low level violence” … interesting
Johnny is a musician. I wonder how having his finger crushed affects his ability to play the guitar? No injury to your hands is “low level” IMO.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree oh yes true that. Good point
Yesterday she complained: "Let's not make this a memory test, I have too many cases to remember this" and today she assures "I have a very good memory." This lady has ZERO credibility. Just look at her reviews on G, 1 out of 5 stars. Ouch!!
Yes! She completely contradicted herself on her narrative, time after time, and bluntly lies with such certainty that it is even scary to watch.
No.
She said “I’m only looking at my notes because I DONT WANT IT TO BECOME A MEMORY TEST”
Referring to actual dates and years.
Because if she got the day or week wrong the other side would carry on saying she’s “lying” .. just like you lot .
You lot have Stockholm Syndrome lol
And have the nerve to say “why didn’t Amber leave”?
@@clareeastgate2753 Nice try Troll
@@clareeastgate2753 well? Why not? It’s not like she was isolated and brainwashed, her sister and friends were living right in the middle of it, but this fighting all started quite quickly, why marry if it’s already so bad? She didn’t have to marry. She didn’t have to get on planes and go anywhere if things were so bad. She clearly had plans to take advantage of this Johnny.
@@clareeastgate2753 you’re right she did say that. But I think she should have just said “I don’t recall the entire period but it was roughly 4 years” etc. like all other witnesses have done instead of having notes if that’s something that’s generally not allowed.
Wow the way she remembers details about the relationship and didn’t have to “glance at her notes for that”.
The majority of her testimony is telling stories and less about actual psychology. She has obviously taken everything at face value and has not applied much critical thinking. Also she spends more time talking about Johnny's psychology even though she's definitely never talked to him as a patient.
True!
Probably got good money for sayn all tht as well
@@summaiyarobi4915 If I'm remembering correctly, her rates are somewhere around 500/hr
@@halibie282 That was a payout from Amber's team. I be my last dollar that's not her regular rate.
Yep. Just commented the same thing. She’s only telling stories… and that’s all they are, are STORIES! Can’t wait to see cross examination
54:54 Psychologist states:
"Amber Heard used low levels of violence herself".
So punching, slapping JD etc in her 'expert opinion' is low level. This is an outrageous and disgusting way to view violence.
This statement and many other statements she has made is little more than biase.
I laughed when she said that as if it wasn't assault. This woman has built a career on creating chaos for people.
Imagine how many lives this "professional" has ruined
Someone at her governing association needs to thoroughly examine her work, and the processes and evaluations she used in assessing the principles and events in her cases. Is anyone sitting in prison because of her report findings?
The way she speaks of "events" that Amber has reported as facts and the way she's basically testifying ABOUT Johnny without even assessing him at all it's absolutely unprofessional and enraging!
She clearly said she conducted testing she even uses Johnny's phycologist test results. Your biased stop trying to infridge on peoples rights. Real time evidence matters lol Johnny admitting in the UK he lost a trial for this already
Very much..she should be arrested for all the men she's ruined.
@@chrislake6001 you should your toxic get help
Sounded more like rumors telling than facts
Right? Like lady u havent even spoke to him once. This is all alleged u cant testify this is what happened and etc... it's so unprofessional
Dr Hughes is showing everyone just how brilliant Dr Curry was. During the whole thing Heard acted upset and attempted to cry when she knew she was being watched. Disgusting.
she also was literally obsessively writing everything down that dr currey commented on her diagnosis testimony hahaha😂😂😂 this lady hughes cant even remember her own "so-called" notes lmao😂😂
Also, Dr Curry wasn't allowed to mention incidences, yet this lady is allowed to state all kinds of things that are " so called incidences??!?" ABSOLUTELY UNFAIR TRIAL FROM DAY 1 ugh
Just wondering if can a psychologist (Dr Hugh) come to conclusion who is the victim of IPV based on reports of single partner??
@@therabbithat she said "she she" since she examined AH not JD. she stated her finding on her hence "she".
Had she examined JD too, she would have mentioned "he" too, unlike Dr Hugh who did not examined JD but still gives her opinion on him.
@@habungchobing7934 you are absolutely right! Dr. said she did not diagnose JD. So, she have to say she pertaining to AH
The way she’s talking about events that apparently happened is not…appropriate. She’s a forensic psychology. Her expert testimony is her psychological evaluation. Not her judgment of events that AMBER told her happened. This is wild. She’s not a detective, she’s a psychologist.
Amber should be testifying to these events since they supposedly happened to HER. This psychologist has NO way of knowing these events happened or not. It’s literallly all hearsay.
I was thinking the same thing. Is that not all hear say??? Dr Curry even said its not their job to determine if a crime happened, just evaluate their mental state. It's not her job to tell the stories.
Johnny and co have spoken very open about “hear say” .
There is such a thing as mandatory reporting.
If you suspect a crime then you must note it.
She also didn’t use the word “crime”.
She described events.. so if the shoe fits ???!
Johnnys “psychologist” is clearly a quack .
She’s trying to get evidence out in open court and on the record through her testimony about her psychological assessment.
2:38 That's what this is for lol
There’s a strategy in letting the witness discredit herself.
She seems so angry and unreflected. She needs evaluation herself.
This lady is supposed to be a professional? She can’t even keep her emotions in check and is clearly biased
I have a Master’s Degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling and this testimony evokes many ethical concerns for me.
Why? Can you say more?
Explain why please! I’m curious
😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me about it. All of us LPCC could do an arm chair of Johnny based on his admissions but it would not be ethical or more importantly legitimate
I don't understand how this Dr. Is/was able to view her notes yet when the Plaintiff's same type of Dr. requested to reference her notes, she was denied the ability.
This lady is acting like Amber's lawyer and is acting so unprofessional, I'm surprised people actually think she's more reliable than Dr. Curry especially since half of this testimony is just her retelling storys she heard FROM AMBER.
she's speaking like a therapist/advocate for Ms Heard, rather than the objective role an expert witness is supposed to take in court...
I note that AH lawyers are taking pains to reiterate time spent with the client in order to validate the opinion but only focused on muffins and dinner at Mr Depp's House with Dr Curry. Can't wait for the cross examination
Curry is a quack and will say what ever is necessary to win
@@Juliette_4 ambers a rat. This womans got a ratty look to.
@@Juliette_4 Based on your expertise I take it.
I mean, that’s their job lol they were hired to win her case. That’s what cross examination is for
@@Juliette_4 😂😂 Right. And I'll bet you think Dr. Hughes isn't. I'll also bet that you're a paid shill.
She apparently took every word Amber said as fact and gave a diagnosis based on surveys and her feelings regarding Amber. Very unprofessional and inaccurate. Amber sitting there gloating as if this seals the deal for her. God I hope Amber is wrong and the jury sees this for what this is.
She’s the definition of unprofessional. Anytime that Johnny’s team objected, she acted unbelievably childish by rolling her eyes, sighing very loudly, and giving Johnny’s team the stink eye.
If this embarrassing excuse for a wannabe psychiatrist actually spent 29 hours or more that she claims to have spent with Amber, she should know her well enough to not have to read HER notes. Her AND Elaine clearly don’t know the difference between referring to notes or reading notes . And even though she was caught reading them a number of times and got in trouble, she still continued to do the “side eye” reading. Not only that, the amount of hearsay that she spewed was unreal.
The fact that Amber wasn’t even one of Dr. Curry’s patient and she only spent 12 hours or so with her, she remembered everything pertaining to Amber’s file.
Funniest bit was when Elaine rushed over to Dr. Hugh’s before Johnny’s team and wouldn’t hand over her file for his team to read and only handed over pages of her choosing wasn’t a massive red flag at all. Amber’s entire legal team and “witnesses” were a huge joke
She didn't even hand them to Johnny's team, she just dropped them on the ledge in front of them. She was unbelievably rude and not at all professional
I came back here and realised everything she said got back to haunt her in the cross examination. She said there was enough evidence for her to diagnose, without ever talking to Johnny about his experiences. If this is what makes an expert, we are all done for.
Lol. Precisely. Same here.
She’s no expert. She’s a joke.
What?
She spoke to the couple therapists that saw both Amber and Johnny.
where is the compelte cross examination?
I found this supposedly top tier psychologist incredibly unprofessional. How has she been called as an expert witness in over 50 trials?. She was beyond biased, very brash bordering on extreme petulance. Rolling her eyes, throwing daggers, nearly throwing her papers at Depp's attorney's and she was so incredibly hostile toward Mr Depp, even her body language was hard to watch. She should check in on how to regulate her own feeling's (anger, hostility, a grandiose sense of self and entitlement). It's like she wanted full control. If she was such a key player in her field she'd have known not to read out her notes. I am shocked.
@Tee Lynn I agree with you, thought that I had said that, it was overwhelmingly apparent and shocking. I couldn't believe she had testified in so many cases, she was so unprofessional. I totally get what you mean by 'bias'. She left me with a very bad feeling. Have a lovely day.
I hope the jury members are seeing through all this, too. It should be a law that courtroom cameras catch all instances of illegal actions during a trial and are reviewed by experts and shown to the jury at the end of testimony. In this case, Amber’s whole team are guilty!
Her whole body language the way she holds her glasses then peers over them then flicks her hair is sooooo annoying
Funny, I thought the same thing about the one on Depp's team - smug, arrogant, obviously unprofessional and disingenuous about her methodology, and trying to characterize a person as being "bad" because she allegedly suffers from mental health problems.
She got into this probably cause she has her own deep seated issues with men. Probably has a pattern of doing this and thoroughly enjoys doing it…I’ve seen the type before.
This lady lost a lot of credibility when she said that after Johnny would leave a fight to deescalate, HE would come back and continue the fight, and Amber would know that he was going to come back and continue fighting and it wasn't going to end anything. That's absolute BS as far as what we have heard in audio recordings.
It’s really odd how Hughes is actively trying to convince the Jury of her message rather than just present her data…
👍🏾
think of it that she's there to do a nice summary of everyone else. instead of calling 10 people to the stand, they only call her
She’s nuts
She never heard his side
She is biased in my opinion
Let’s be fair now … how can Amber have two completely different diagnoses? I am siding with the testimony of DR. CURRY who didn’t have notes!
@@Nunyabzinss Johnny Depp didn't want to talk to her, he also refused to go through a psychological evaluation.
$$$$$$
It' s Crazy how the other psychologist dr. Shannon said " I can't Say anything about her personally, I Just conducted the research" etc... While dr. Hughes gave a lot of personal opinion on the case. Which I found inappropriate
she also made it clear several times that she couldn't determine what happened because she wasn't an investigator, which Dr Hughes doesn't seem to care about
How are they allowing her to speak about what Johnny did ? She is speaking like it is fact but she had zero evidence those things happened. Why aren't the lawyers objecting
And why when they do object are they over ruled? Depps attorneys have been sustained far more often over simple questions. I don’t get it
Sorry…it’s a court case.
That’s what happens.
You talk about WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
Not watch Johnny perform and lord around the court room all day long.
Must be hard to hear you have been cheering an abuser on for two weeks.
Perhaps its a strategy to let the Jury hear what a biased and joke her so called expertise is.
I agree it could be a strategy. They could use this to discredit her later in the cross-examination.
@@clareeastgate2753 Without picking sides Dr Hughes talking about something she wasn't there for and hasn't been documented by law enforcement is suspect at best.
If, as Dr Hughes says, Amber has PTSD caused by Johnny, then Amber would have had to have been “normal” BEFORE she met Johnny, which Amber clearly wasn’t!
@@truditrudi753 I’m totally supporting Johnny here, why can’t they look into her past relationships and see how abusive those were? Cuz Johnnys former relationships have already mentioned no violence, with disgust that it was even possible.
When you have an extreme score such as 0 on a malingering scale, it indicates that there could be contamination. In other words Mrs. Heard could have known she was being evaluated for malingering or fawning and responded accordingly. That's a social-desirability bias and psychometric tests are vulnerable to that more specifically in a legal context. It requires a subtle approach and maneuvers to reduce that sort of contamination which the MMPI-2 usually provides. You can't trust blindly the data of a test in a legal context, you have to weight in the motivations of the client and the possible consequences which is counterintuitive for most psychologist. Besides, this is still consistent with Mrs. Heard's behavior to either minimize or exacerbate her experiences (cleavage) which further solidify the credibility of Dr Curry's report.
I agree. Social desirability is the most error that would be found although we already said the test results would not being announced to anyone but the testee themselves.
I mean true, but that's why multiple tests exist and are administered, no? it's very difficult to lie through all of them when you don't know which tests will be administered.
No doubt by now she has studied HARD every test there is.
Watch for the projection and mimicry in Amber's responses, every answer is taken from the question in the evaluations, or is so general she could be talking about a mean girl fight in highschool.
This is pedestrian to an extreme.
Mockeries everywhere.
@@croviktorija she certainly has studied them all by now. She's nothing if not manipulative to the extreme.
She's established for the world the lengths she'll go to.
@@croviktorija Listen to the testimony given by Johnny's expert though, who evaluated Amber. And it's not difficult to lie, but if the person being tested is not familiar with the tests, it would be difficult to lie appropriately, and Johnny's expert takes that into consideration, while this 'expert' does not.
This just proves a degree is what you do with it. Just because one is “qualified” to do something does not mean they’re actually good at it…
Didn’t know that pushing, shoving and throwing objects at people were considered “minor” acts of violence 😂😂😂 Sure, it’s not beating somebody to death but that is NOT minor nonetheless
“Minor” is a perfect gaslighting adjective
I remember seeing that pic of Johnnie and Amber and those other guys and I was what happened to Johnnie's face? There was nothing in the media so I just thought it was from a movie he was doing. But clearly it was from having a door smashed in his face.
JD’s behavior is worse. Making a statement that he would kill/ burn AH is chilling & should not be taken lightly
I can remember being in a place of wishing harm upon my ex so there are differences between thinking things and sending frustrated texts back and forth. She gave him a dagger as a gift that said until death.
They both were physical. JD grabbed the wrist of a flight attendant and asked her if she knew how much pressure or force it takes to break your arm? The cause of JD’s finger laceration is debatable. AH did not intentionally slice his finger with a liquor bottle.
Making fun of the judge, belittling people, yet she’s been used to testify over 50 times. Bias and argumentative. This is worrying coming from a so called specialist
45:18 Man I love Elaine's defense to hearsay "I don't agree" to judge replying "I know you don't ;-)"
Clearly on the side of the defendant. Dr. Hughes seems to roll her eyes and is annoyed when the plaintiff's attorneys object to her responses. She comes across as biased and not impartial.
exactly bro
Considering she spent like 4 hrs listig her affiliations, how dare anyone object to anything she says 😆
Ah looks high
Amber is soooo traumatised by Johnny and sooo triggered with PTSD in his presence that all the time in court she sits facing Johnny while he sits straight and never even glances at her.
She’s pointing in the general direction of the witness stand. Depp is facing directly the witness stand, no need to turn towards Heard.
She is so passive aggressive about not reading directly from her notes. And it is funny how Depp's lawyer seems to keep objecting to it, probably an attempt to rile her up.
It’s crazy how she threw everything on Johnny without coming to the realization she’s been lied too herself😂😂😂😂😂😂
Was soo hoping they would scan the gallery and zoom in on reactions from Dr. Curry
Unfortunately any credibility she had as a witness went out the window when she rolled her eyes and made that gesture as the judge asked them to approach. Even I know you never disrespect the judge.
Can I get the time stamp for this please
@@sara-fw9rz 17:17
Extremely rude, combative and disrespectful 🤷♀️
Love this portrait of Amber Teard as a victim under JD's control and subject to an imbalance in the power dynamic. Meanwhile, she's recording all their convos, goading him, and then running away giggling when she gets a rise out of him. Sorry, that's not someone suffering in a power imbalance or under someone else's control. That's a master manipulator trying to wreak havoc. Dr. Curry FOR THE WIN.
If AH is supposedly so afraid for her life, why would she say demeaning things to Johnny and hit him, and throw things at him? I was in an abusive relationship, and I would NEVER have done those things for fear of what he would do to me!
Apparently, some victims of DV argue back.
Why would she also buy him a huge Bowie knife as a gift that has “till death” engraved on it
Every relationship is different.
Because some people try to stand up to them.
Judges, Lawyers, Jurors & people are learning a lot from this trial. Thanks JD
This woman has hurt our community, but luckily Shannon saved our profession!
😢as well as dr curry
@@msfdoz7505 you goof that's literally what he's saying 🤦🏼♂️🤣
“I just don’t want this to be a memory test” uhhh 🤔 HUH?! Isn’t a testimony completely based on what you remember? Jeez, and that’s from someone that’s been an expert witness 50 times? 🤡🤡
Well now we know why so many men get their lives ruined by stuff like this when someone like her has been a witness in over 50 trials.
As a feminist, this woman enrages me. It is not feminism to falsely impugn men. I agree that this type of exposition has likely been very damaging to many men.
@@username.not.known2473 I really admire and respect women like you. Feminism is not about belittling, disrespecting and demeaning men. It is about advocating for equal rights for women, some which were accorded to men but not to women in the past. It is to change the backward way of perceiving women. It was never about putting down the other gender as a way to obtain equality.
Sadly, there’s very little people nowadays that understand the true spirit of feminism. Cheers to you and have a very good day.
@@alexquest6217 she sounds more what I like what I like to call, an old world feminist. Not modern day feminism, that is all man hating.
@Alex. Feminism is different to male sexism. Men seek to repress and dominate women. Feminism, on the other hand, does not seek to repress and dominate men. Women only seek equity. To enjoy the same opportunity, treatment, privileges and rights, that men enjoy not MORE than. That does not mean we want to be given advantages, special treatment or privileges over and above those that men don't already enjoy. We want to be seen as more than just a girlfriend, a partner, a wife, a mother, a grandmother. As the one who stays home, raises the children, looks after the home, cares for the elderly, supports her husband in his career so he can exclusively advance. We want the opportunity to be able to choose our options, decide our life trajectory just like a man does. We don't want to live being dependant on a man. We want Independence, just as a man has. Men don't question the status quo because they benefit from it and don't experience any disadvantage or discrimination. Men's experience of society is free from repression and dominance. Men dont struggle for equity because they have always been favoured. They have no experience. Especially the subtle treatment women receive, like micro aggressions and suggestions that give rise to feelings of guilt and shame. "If you're out working, who will be looking after the kids?" sort of talk. Well, hang on. It takes two to make a child. Why is it that the women must be the one to give up her career and raise that child? Why doesn't the husband automatically think "I'm a dad now. I need to quit my job to raise him/her"? Because society has put that subtle psychological pressure on women and when we don't follow the pattern we get covert messages from our partner, our family, friends and employer that make us feel guilty.
@@Chicharrera. sadly a lot of feminists don’t understand what feminism actually is. Lots of man haters out there. AH thought she could get away with her lies, and be believed, because she is a woman. 🤮
Is Hughes allowed to read notes? Were the attorneys given copies of the same notes?
This woman is not professional. She is not being objective and it’s disgusting as someone who has worked in mental health.
There's something fishy about the notes! watch you tuber Popcorn Planet and observe what he says about "These Notes"
This women is making Dr. Curry look good I don't believe her.
it’s honestly quite disgusting how Dr Hughes blatantly disrespects a doctor who is another woman in her own field. towards the beginning she didn’t even refer to Dr Curry as “Dr” but as “Mrs.” it’s clear she’s there with a motive to discredit Dr Curry’s findings rather than just provide her own. what is the point for any psychologist to discredit another doctor? that’s literally the lawyers job based on how they ask or what questions they do ask, not for the psychologist to attack another psychologist.
i’m just saying if i was Dr Curry, i’d be seeing Ms Hughes in the parking lot
Exactly!!!!
@@nicxlis cash me outside
@I don't think you are smart it’s weird how she states everything as facts though. As if she were in the room, I don’t think that’s very professional. She should know the drill by now
@I don't think you are smart DR. HUGHES ? IS THAT YOU ?
This Dr. Hughes was so unprofessional and judgmental without basis. She only reviewed the medical notes in favor of the conclusion that she wanted to go for and completely ignored the other medical notes that were contradictory to the conclusion that she wanted to draw. She should be stripped off her license and thrown into jail for testifying untruthfully.
Agreed
Are you high or just have terrible judge?
I second this
Well said and I agree
Are there any malpractice regulations for psychologists? Professional incompetence? It's not possible to have these inconsistencies coming from supposedly 2 highly specialised professionals.
Yes, anyone can file a claim to the national board and to the state authorities who issues the Dr licenses, and if she is licensed under NYC, a claim of professional misconduct can be filed in NYC as well. And you can request to be anonymous. After the claims are filed each agency will investigate the Dr. They will request all her patients notes, any documents, they will do a drug test, and a designated agent will physically be present to observe her work during appointed time. Then they will evaluate and decide if to suspend her license , charge her with penalties and fines, and/or charge her with a criminal charge, depending on what they find.
So I really hope she lost her license forever!!!
I like how she claimed Amber was avoidant and scared because she knew Johnny coming back would mean a fight coming back, when we've got them both on recording stating that the roles were reversed. I wonder if this lady heard that or is just spouting out what Heard wants her to.
This is frustrating why can Amber's team object everything and say everything is hearsay but Johnny's team can't object to anything when basically everything she is saying is all hearsay.
THey're letting her dig her own grave.
@@kienmaple I really hope so
One team doesn't want too much of the truth to get out;
The other has evidence.
It's a clever tactic. They let her go on and on and just discredit her during cross-examination.
If JD's team keep objecting, it will come across to the jury that Dr Hughes' testimony is damning since they're fighting so hard to object to everything she's saying. Instead, they ask the Judge to approach the bench multiple times to subtly signal to the jury that there's something wrong with this expert witness. In the end, JD's lawyers also got the upper hand since they asked for a copy of her "post it notes" and questioned her about it further on cross.
I just love that she talks like Amber telling these people whatever makes it true or fact. At least we see AGAIN that Amber WAS violent. Where is Dr. Anderson that saw bruises? Considering no one saw bruises, only makeup I'd love to see the person who saw bruises physically.
Did she just reverse all the stories we heard from Johnny?
What about any makeup artists of hers? I'd assume if these bruises existed that person would have seen them. (Along with many many other people)
Bla, Bla, Bla iam actually getting sick of this! Its just a joke even for johnny! Can we just get real to the facts and finish this case!!!!
Amber Heard is the true Gone Girl. She practically copied Amy Dunne's behaviour entirely.
@@WalkerColors YES!
4:29 the way Johnny turns to directly face Amber’s lawyer after she gets the psychologist’s name wrong🤣
EDIT: and again at 10:25
I have such second hand embarrassment for Elaine here, but also she looks likes she is falling apart trying to represent this client
I do NOT understand how this supposed psychologist is talking about JD like she was present during these accusations Amber made. I mean she talks about them like she was hovering over their bodies every second. I hope the jury sees through this witnesses’ BS. She is storytelling and is SO AGGRESSIVE when speaking in regards to JD
Dr. Curry really motivated me to continue my degree in psychology with her objectivity and fact based approach on evidence. However, Dr Hughes makes me question that now with how she is presenting her diagnosis with incidents told by Amber and not test results in which a forensic psychologist is supposed to do, she is presenting more like a therapist/detective as if she were there in first person. If she were Amber's therapist this would have been more relevant than an objective analysis. Overall I'm still a student but Dr Hughs makes me question where psychology is going to and how it will perceived in the future.
It needs people like Dr. Curry and maybe some day you to change what Dr. Hughes was presenting. So please go on.
The world needs more professional professionals in psychology. My own psychologist is the most wonderful, supportive, encouraging woman who turned around my entire view on psychotherapy. Mental health care is slowly dragging itself out of the dark ages, but there is still a lot of work to be done getting past the kind of gross biases that Dr. Hughes was hired for.
Please continue with your path, you have two perfect examples here to look at, which do you want to be. As a graduate of psychology myself, I am disgusted with how Dr. Hughes is presenting herself and representing clinical forensics psychology, and clinical psychology everywhere. She was literally testifying for Amber instead of just explaining and interpreting tests and results. She can offer professional opinion but not facts that she’s not witness to. Absolutely horrible testimony. Now today she assesses their relationship without talking to both parties, which she needs to admit is incomplete because she never even spoke to Johnny. Keep going! Be an objective professional.
That you can see the difference between these two psychologists. Means someone like you is needed in the field.
Tbh she was probably payed on the low to answer & make heard look like a victim
The problem is that.... sometimes the person who was raised around violence, becomes violent. Or they become like Johnny. Also, ones you have been caught using nail polish to fake an injury once, you will never be believed again.
I missed the nail polish incident. When was this?
@@user-jy3zl2vp4b in Johnny’s testimony he brought up an incident where he and amber butted heads after he held her arms while trying stop her from punching him and after the “headbutt” she left, then came back with a “bloody tissue” accusing him of breaking her nose, which turned out to be red nail polish, not blood
The way she's narrating these events sounds more like a friend recounting events she herself witnessed. Seems like she should be saying allegedly before giving her account on most of this.
why allegedly? she reviewed the documents and testimonies among everything else that was given to the court and jury and she's there to count everything into consideration and give her expert opinion. dunno, she sounds to me like she's just explaining her findings to the jury (granted, I'm only 40min into her testimony atm). that's basically the only part of the trial when anyone's allowed NOT to say allegedly 🤣🤣
@@croviktorija She told stories as if she was there based on what was shared with her. Point blank and simple - she was not there - and therefore cannot tell childhood accounts and stories about Amber's and Johnny's relationship, that may be true or untrue, as if she lived the experience too. She was not there in a personal capacity as a personal witness. She was there in a professional/expert capacity to give factual testimony as to findings she could attest to. It was all hearsay --- she is not an expert on past events or Amber's life story simply because she was NOT present --- thus the reason her storytelling should have led with allegedly or per Ms. Heard (if that's the softer approach you're looking for) 😂🤣
@@VeelovesChrist but that's kind of the thing when you're a forensic psychologist, you get tons and tons of data in various forms from ALL sides and you make a medical conclusion and present your findings. If you listen to her introduction again, the first 5 min of it, it will tell you why she is allowed to say everything without the word "allegedly" and without being physically present :) and if that is not enough for you, think about this: surely if she HAD to say "allegedly", no doubt Johnny's lawyers would jump at the opportunity with objections. In fact, they were overruled in every "hearsay" objection they made, no? Is no one rationally thinking about this stuff? I mean common people xD It makes me sad I can't watch the full cross examination anywhere, because I DO want to hear both sides :c
@@croviktorija Agree to disagree. It's hearsay regardless of how you spin it because she heard it from elsewhere. What she described would have been best presented by Amber herself. Now, I was actually being quasi funny in my use of "allegedly." Sorry you ran with it. Either way, she was too emotionally vested in her sharing of accounts she was not present for. She's selling a story under oath that she does not know to be true. Yes, it's to the best of her knowledge but it's not fact. But I'm fine with agreeing to disagree so we're good. 😁
@@croviktorija in the first 5 minutes she admit that all of her data is in the form of from amber only other than their relationship councilor. at that point amber was already manipulating him. hello
I feel like I need to refresh MY recollection with Dr. Curry to see how a professional acts. Doesn't this lady do this for a living? Why does she seem unfamiliar with the way the court works?
"Don't do any outside research," but you know she will be bee-lining straight to her notes
My favourite line: point to where you think it's not. 1:03:39
Show me you got paid to be bias without showing me you got paid to be bias.
Lol
The fact that she has to use notes where Dr. Curry did not is so telling.
Why wasn’t there a cross examination of this person she was horrendous !
She told she told she told... HEARSAY!
If I were Dr Hugh's colleague or boss, I'd be VERY concerned about any evaluations she's made resulting in any convictions. I would suggest they be reviewed by a real professional. I am dumbfounded by her lack of professionism. DUMBFOUNDED!
She's more the town gossip.
Watching doctor Curry was like : wow such a professional well knowledged doctor . But this doctor, the way she kept looking at her notes , nuh . justice for Johnny 💜
I'm on Johnny's side in terms that she lied about him. But both psychologists are obviously educated. And both are definitely mouthpieces. Just why is everyone so easy to insult the witnesses of the opposite side they're on - without an ounce of objectivity. Team Johnny team Amber.. makes people sounding like sheep sad hypocrites. And I repeat I don't believe Johhny was physicallu abusive - Amber definitely was. But people here on YT sound like such hypocritical sheep when they ridicule AH's witness while praising JD's witnesses - even ghough both are doing the same thing - basically paid mouthpieces for each side - and these are licensed psychologists who are supposedly there to give their true diagnosis. BOTH psychologists are saying exactly what their clients want them to and their one sided version of things
@@ICA509 But at least Dr.Curry took the time to meet with and observe Amber, get her side of the story. She used an impartial programme that Amber answered questions on and had a first hand review and analysis of Amber her behaviours and mannerisms.
This Dr didn't meet with Johnny Depp and is basing her conclusion on what Amber has been telling people, no evidence or facts to back up what she is saying other than what Amber says.
Dr Curry can at least compare the information she has been given by BOTH parties.
It is also pretty funny Amber's Lawyers keep calling her Dr.Curry then correcting themselves; that is their witness they are miss naming
@@ICA509 You are over-generalizing. You are basically making an assumption that both experts in this case manipulated the results of their findings in favour of the party that hired them. The reality behind expert testimony is that one side almost always has a much harder road to get to their desired narrative than the other. How would you know whether Amber Heard would have been diagnosed with BDP by 99/100 doctors that did an examination of her, using the same tests that Dr. Curry did?
The best expert witnesses are ones that appear unbiased, competent, trustworthy and credible. In cases where the evidence overwhelmingly points in one party's favour, it is clearly easier to appoint an honest and credible witness that presents the facts objectively. The reason why most people believe Dr. Curry's testimony, is because the only thing she did was present the findings of the objective tests she conducted on Heard. She explained the code types that Amber fell under, and compared Amber to other patients with similar results. In contrast, Dr. Hughes was very blatantly biased, as she ignored multiple pieces of evidence that were prejudicial to Amber's side, and deliberately chose to not conduct the most well-researched study that Curry relied upon to form her diagnosis of BPD.
To most people, this juxtaposition indicates that, at least in this case, Dr. Curry did not need to manipulate the facts or her narrative to come to the conclusion that Amber exhibited those volatile traits. In comparison, Dr. Hughes appeared to jump through numerous hoops to construct a narrative that favoured Amber.
@@mads4927 THIS. AMEN.
Oh if this lady only knew the evidence that was coming to prove her testimony as bias and bs! Love it! 🤣🤣🤣
24:58 “a high degree of serious violence perpetrated by Mr Depp, there was violence more on the mild level perpetrated my Miss Heard…”
She is the one who openly admitted to physical acts of violence towards Johnny and took the tip of his finger off, which could have led to a possible amputation. It’s still totally inconclusive whether he even did anymore than grabbing her by the shoulders and moving her out of his way. This testimony is shocking
No one else has been allowed to “consult their notes”while in court so why is this Hughes woman allowed???
Check the attitude on this woman too lol
You can feel her bias, and see it. Her body language, and I am no expert, and the way she looks at Johnny Depp's lawyers and Johnny Depp each time his lawyers rightfully object to her ridiculous testimony.
"Point to where you say it's not." 🤣😂🤣
"everything she's done is justified" - paid actor.
“Everything Johnny has done is a lie”
Sound familiar?
It’s all the star struck idiots out there.
Don’t be one of them .
The reporting is so biased how can one comment on couple behaviour on the basis of just one person reporting it
Notice when whoever is speaking is trying to manipulate the jury, they face the jury instead of the person asking them questions? I noticed that.
She should be dismissed as a witness since she's heard so many other witness depositions. Also, did these other witnesses give permission to be evaluated, doesn't appear so. She making fishermen's about the witnesses and Johnny. So WRONG on so many levels!!
She's making judgments ......
She's using hearsay from Amber to evaluate Johnny. VERY UNPROFESSIONAL!!!
@@therabbithat That would be fine if that is what happened, you miss the chunk in the middle where she told stories like she was physically there?
Shame on Depp's team not calling hearsay.
@@Segphalt depps team should have called out hearsay and bias so many times but instead they are calling her out on in in the cross today.
@@Segphalt it could be that depp's team is letting them go on to find major contradictions to call out later like when depp's lawyer talked about every problem and contradiction on tge stand which was a denial of heard's dismissal request. While heard's team interrupts countless times to keep the contradictions from happening cause she has so much evidence against her.
Expert witnesses have more leeway
Let's take a moment and think, wouldn't amber being amber who will use anything to make herself a victim, just yell back in one single recording "I DIDNT NOT HIT YOU, NOT LIKE YOU WERE HITTING ME AND DOING HORRIBLE THINGS TO ME" lol 🤣🤭
This dr looks angry all the time. She is painting AH as a angel. AH never did anything wrong. It is disgusting. This so called dr looks creepy. How can she be so qualified. Judging johnny without ever speak to him. It is appalling.
yeah, creepy eyes, total psycho eyes!! yuck. these devils have no shame.
@@h3arty for real,she needs arrested..
It’s the Botox 😂
Amber‘s eye make up! She has shadowed under her eyes to make her look weak and worried! For women this is a gotcha moment! We know what she did and what she’s trying to portray!
This "expert" is very unlikeable: her appearance, her facial expression of disgust, her arrogance and I haven't got to the cross-examination. She is giving a narrative of what happened based only on the defendant's side of the story, without having witnessed any of what she is narrating. But you never know, the jurors may buy it, oh well..
She comes across as untrustworthy because of her clearly manipulative words, manner of speaking and air of superiority and dominance, which triggers a thought and feeling that she
(a) needs to resort to that behavior for some reason
(b) is trying to distract from something the audience better not notice
(c) is manipulative in general
(d) there is a malignant intention
Except for people who are easily impressed / intimidated / already feel inherently inferior (I hope as few people as possible), this was a weak expert to bring front in AH’s defense
She was afraid to go home, but requested to live in Johnny apartments, and use his car. She seems just fine to be around him in court.
Didn't he want her to go to the hotel so he could detox in peace and she wanted to stay but he got her to go, and paid for it all including her friends. Now it's bc she was scared???
Her friends stayed in his homes .. for free !!!
When the professor allows a cheat sheet and the student brings the entire text book! 🥴
Johnny’s reaction to her asking to read her notes is just hilarious
I'm AMAZED at Heards acting talents she displayed to this psychiatrist! I really didn't think Heard had any talent, but she won over her psychiatrist, for sure. You know Johnny has been very subdued throughout, but his stare down of that woman speaks volumes. I wonder how many of those millions were paid to her for her testimony.
This was a very sad day for forensics psychologists. Compared with Dr. Curry's testimony, you can hear by her intonation and word choice that this is purely personal, whereas Dr. Curry was 100% professional.
Dr. Curry is such a class act, they should make a movie about her for all the girls to get a great role model.
I disagree with you. This one is talking on behalf of all the previous therapist. While the other one talked only for her own examination
100% correct, Dr. Huge is a fraud and an embarrassment to the field. She's just using Amber and Johnny's fame to further her own personal agenda, while Dr. Curry just inspired a whole generation.
She's absolutely disgusting..im appalled..This shows what money can do to frame someone with so called experts..sickening
Stop calling this lady a doctor. She’s not a doctor!!
Doesn’t she (unfortunately) had a PhD or a PsyD?
Elaine continuing to call Hughes “dr. Curry” is just all of us ALSO wishing it was Dr. Curry lmaooo
Elaine gives me second hand embarrassment every time she speaks
I don't believe it...a violent person attacks any of their companions, it wasn't the case with Ryder and Paradis...I still believe that Amber is lying.
No one really knows Johhny as a violent or angry person, but certain people can bring that out. Clearly Amber brings confusion, chaos and emotional destruction out in him. She is lying, she planned this out from the beginning for status, fame and money. If he was really beating her, why marry? Why not leave and report it from the get go? All of her recordings and setups prove that.
Dr. Curry said that typically someone's Therapist will accept what their patient is telling them at face value (assume what the patient reports as true), Dr. Hughes says at the beginning that Amber isn't her patient and that she's not providing therapy she's doing a forensic analysis. This is not the same thing that Dr. Curry was talking about, IMO the lawyers are attempting to mischaracterize what Dr. Curry was talking about.
Almost as if she had previously watched this case to determine what Dr. Curry had stated so that she could destroy her credibility.
"Dr. Curry" is not board certified and lied several times.
@@Juliette_4 when?
@@Juliette_4 she’s a psychologist, not a psychiatrist (who are medical doctors, vs. holding a PsyD or PhD). psychologists have to be licensed but not board certified
Indeed, support for the client in therapy is the focus of therapy. A personality diagnosis is not assessed unless the client asks, or there was some severe event that requires it, or a legal requirement. A good therapist will usually be able to know what traits and behaviors their client exhibits and will guide them through the appropriate therapy programs, such as CBT, DBT, Alcohol and Addiction, and several other science based (neurological, genetic, biological) therapies. By all accounts, JD participated and engaged in his own personal therapy in a meaningful and sincere way as best he could, even prior to his relationship with AH. That ticks off a lot of boxes (eliminating) certain personality trait in relation to a success rate in treatment. You don't want to be going through therapy and find yourself in an insecure attachment with another's insecure traits. It's going to reactivate, and degrade your progress, and in some cases; your issues may be easily exploited - and some people WILL most definitely exploit them.....say like someone with cluster B traits, say Histrionic.
She cites the Mfast test....my question to her would be whether she heeded caution using this test with someone who potentially displays cluster B traits, say like....Histrionic.... And the heed to really explore and followup, interview others (friend, foe, workers, colleagues etc,) to get a clear background. Cluster B often are not interested in treatment, and more often, even in treatment, will never acknowledge they have a problem. And are very good manipulators of the process itself.
The MMPI-2 is far superior to a PAI TO START WITH, throw in badly performed MFast with PAI, and you have shiet!
wait so she literally sitting in a courtroom parroting Amber's own testimony to the court? like not even stuff she said during the relationship or anything. what is the point of this
JD's lawyers barely objected - They let her go on and on knowing they will demolish her on cross.
So let me get this straight: by reading what Amber has reported to other people and to this doctor themselves she considers Amber credible? Her only source is Amber herself.
I always new that standards were far higher in Europe than in the USA and this proves it. Not only is this person licenced to practice she's been doing this for many years. Incredulous. Court rooms and jury's been taken in by this bloody nonsense.
disgusting and embarrassing.
I also love you how she took off her glasses to read her notes she constantly looks at them as she speaks
I wish her lawyers had asked about scoring a 0 on the malingering test, because that is a clear sign someone is actually malingerong, there should not be a 0... she clearly knew that she was being tested for that, and given this lady's unprofessional behavior I wouldn't be surprised if she first announced now I am going to give you a test to see if you're faking....
My mother was very abusive because of her bipolar and borderline personality disorder. She saw many of therapist over 20 plus years before she got those 2 diagnosis. This woman is acting more like a actress than a doctor.
So let's review; Dr Curry: sticks to facts, says her results show evidence of behavior consistent with BPD and malingering, remains actually objective yet informative. Explains clearly how she arrived at her conclusions using data proven by evidence and body language. Hughes: presents speculation and narration padded by psychobabble founded in incomplete data collection, poorly disguised bias, and unprofessional behavior. Guess which one takes her job seriously and which one is more concerned with clout and money
Wrong!
Its scary to see some of these opinions. Hopefully none of these AH haters ever sits on a jury. Terrible.
@@Juliette_4 wrong. We aren't Amber Heard haters, we are liar haters and hate people who portray themselves as DV survivors when real survivors would never act the way she has this whole time.
@@coralleedixon9251 irrational justification. Believe what you want.
Dr. Curry also stated that she does not use the term 'malingering'.
57:46 When Dr. Hughes corroborates that Johnny handles emotional stress by leaving the room 😂
I have a curious question. Why is Johnny and his lawyers smirking every time Dr. Hughes needs to "refresh her memory"? I'm missing the joke lol
Because it’s a joke that she needs to do that. She should have refreshed her memory before she testified and been able to speak with confidence on what happened