How much will your collection really be worth in 20 years?
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How much will your pokemon card be worth? Most collectors are holding onto massive sealed modern collections right now and is any of it worth anything when every collector has a large collection? The most expensive and rare pokemon cards are worth it because they were less collected in their time!
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If it not worth anything in 20 years then I guess I'll open them and have fun In 20 years.
That’s where I am at too
Fresh thinking ;)
Exactly lol.
Love that mindset
I’m keeping it till i die🔥🔥🔥🔥😤
I think late SM and SWSH will last long, as its when the boom happened and many people will have nostalgia for this era since it brought so many new people in and old fans back. Scarlet and Violet sets will be the true test for if the current poke craze has legs or is fizzling.
Absolutely agree. For many kids the SWSH era is their 'Gen 1' - they're going to fondly remember all this era's cards the same way I fondly remember the Gen 3 games, or how people ~30+ remember Base Set. SM and SWSH will do exceptionally well long term.
As for ScVi, it's a win-win for a sealed collector:
People drop out of the hobby and print runs remain low because of decrease in demand? Great, there'll be less of it around in future.
Interest stays strong and another new generation gets into it the same as SM and SWSH? Also great, the hobby is even stronger in future for selling sealed product to.
This is a no lose scenario for the hobby.
just a shame the new set doesn't look appealing to me at all...hence why ive stocked up on SWSH sealed products
@@foxon172I agree and have been doing the same. To me, almost any set from SWSH makes S&V look like something that Fisher Price made lol
@MMK86 LOL, HATE most of the cards in the S&V. Which for me and my brother, is why Crown Zenith stands out so strong, that and the way better pull rates. It just feels like they took a massive step backwards to kiddy art. The thing thing is, my kids love the refined art from Crown Zenith (9 and 12), it's a good mix of mature styling while still retaining kid appeal, at least if my kids are anything to go off of.
I think Scarlet & Violet will be fine. Maybe not for us who are already entrenched in the hobby, but the games performed well enough and the Switch's popularity helps. I think SWSH in the long term will be better though.
I’ve been trying to keep stuff sealed for years I’ve put it in boxes kept it not in my home still can’t master it highly addicted on opening everything we buy huge props to the sealed collectors out there
I just recently started a sealed collection, and I agree it takes mental skill to not open it all. It all started when I bought an Espeon GX premium collection box, that I bought from my local Walmart in 2017 for $20. I wasn't into collecting Pokemon cards at the time, it was just because Espeon is one of my most favorite Pokemon. I opened it. Then years later I looked it up again out of curiosity when I became more interested in the hobby and seeing it going for $300+!! I wish I kept mine sealed!😆
I simply got lazy. Keeping them sealed was the easy part. Space on the other hand, that’s a whole different story.
@MrShaizaan123 that's a great idea ibhavent tried that in years I'll give it a shot thanks !
I agree, I started collecting again when XY ended. I feel the same way with my collection, I have kids, family, and friends who come over and we all just enjoy looking at my collection. I don't have the best, but I have enough to make it interesting and fun
I would have to respectfully disagree with your estimation in that anything prior to Sun and Moon will be starkly more valuable due to supply - because you feel everyone keeps modern sealed and the supply is higher and everyone's collections look the same.
Modern has proven to have some of the BEST artworks EVER MADE in Pokemon's history. This is the reason why modern is so popular and prices / demand are extremely high. Pokemon has currently been unable to satiate - (even with more printing) - the current demand. This is why everything is so valuable - booster boxes, singles etc. Today, I would argue many collectors prefer modern over vintage because of the highly creative and beautiful / complex textures & colors they have offered and I feel that trend of enjoying the alternate arts \trainer gallery \galarian gallery will continue as new collectors of all ages enter the hobby.
With that...as you mentioned, the hobby continues to grow. As such, kids will likely continue to enjoy the hobby as many are already involved while new kids will continue to enter. This kinda debunks your argument for everyone's collections look the same today and everyone has all the cards out there that are available. Well, NEW collectors won't have those cards because they are just starting out. Say tomorrow 2,000 collectors enter this hobby. I would imagine they are going to want to own alternate arts. Also, today - many kids are collecting and DON'T have the collection you or I may have because they can't yet afford it. Not everyone has the same cards as many are struggling to keep up with how many good cards have flooded the market with Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield.
The thing to remember about supply of modern is that specific cards like those popular Alt arts are NOT plentiful. They are extremely rare. I would also argue that many are even more rarer than some of the cards out of the oldest sets.
I believe there should not be a line in the sand between modern and vintage. New and old collectors will collect what they want and these behaviors are difficult to predict. I enjoy both modern and vintage offering and feel it's limiting to suggest that vintage will carry a little more value over modern. Kids growing up today are immersed in modern, not what you collected 20 years ago. Modern artworks are way more interesting in many cases and though perhaps more supply exists to a degree.. that's only because more collectors have entered the hobby and collecting sealed product is now a thing. Not everyone who collects sealed will open it. The future for investing in modern looks as bright as it does for vintage if not brighter on a card by card basis..
people who collected the originals as kids are entering their 30s now, wait till they are 40-45 with more disposable income and free time
Buy Trick or Trade packs and give them out on Halloween so we can get the next generation hooked.
I think the number of people that say they will hold on to the swsh stuff for 20 years is drastically higher than the number of people that actually will. This stuff is easy to rip into, and I think a lot of it will get opened.
"Every one of people's collections look exactly the same" Proceeds to show pictures of random collections 100,000 times more impressive and just as valuable as mine.
I just collect what I like. And seeing a sealed collection is aesthetically pleasing. Hopefully one day be able to own more vintage booster boxes
Despite the fact that they're printing more cards now than ever, I think this past year is gonna be one of the best years in terms of products holding good value. Like look at the 2019 sets, despite being only 4 years old they're all way more expensive than the other sets around them, and that's because they're just so good and people love opening and collecting them. I think the same thing is absolutely gonna be true for the trainer gallery sets
What about psa 10 packs?
Yeah I'm Hella stoked to be a Pokemon Card Collector.
I am one of many that wishes I still had my old cards but it is what it is!
Yep me too 😊
I figure that if you can get your hands on a few alternate arts, you’ll be in good shape… unless you just happen to luck out, they are incredibly hard to come by. Fast forward a few years… it’s going to be near impossible to get one without a huge premium.
These modern chase cards are incredible, I feel like they will hold up big time.
I fix this by going for super rare stuff these days. The eeveelution premium boxes were not printed that much and each store got two each every restock. Unlike other boxes that would get like 20-40 boxes. I think they are a great purchase every time you find them in the wild💯💯
I wish i started collecting a little earlier. I remember thinking about collecting back in sun moon era but never pulled the trigger and thought that it wouldnt go anywhere. When some psa 10 cards that were $50 were considered expensive and now theyre worth up to $1000 or even more.
I collect because I enjoy the cards, but I’ll never get hundreds of dollars of value out of any card regardless of how rare it is. I feel like a lot of people conflate actual value with price. Prices that are driven up by investors and collectors trying to profit. My rule for my collection is that I should be happy with my purchase even if it becomes worthless some day.
The problem is 90% of these collections get sold for a wedding, debt, hard times, don’t want them anymore all the time.
Lol wtf. 90% ?
My guess is SWSH may do better than SM or even some XY sets in the long term since this era will become nostalgia for all the kids who started getting into Pokemon during the pandemic. Collectors love to go for nostalgia, not to mention there has been a recent abundance of absolutely gorgeous full art cards
You should do a walk through of your whole sealed collection
I'm a simple man, I see shiny cards I get dopamine. The value of them is just the cherry on top.
I personally enjoy the ex cards from 15 years ago way more than the current cards. Sure, there are some cool pieces, but I enjoy the old ex cards the most. That's the "nostalgic" factor everyone is talking about tho (I think).
Honestly been shocked at how cheap some of the gen 3-gen 4 cards are. As someone who collects vintage and modern, I’ve been loading up on vintage cards lately because sellers are struggling to find buyers.
It's a mixed bag of people who want to profit and people who want to add to their collection.
This is the best time to hoover up the cheap vintage bro, this stuff WILL spike again, probably several times over the next 20 years. Absolute no brainer picking up vintage rn.
I think the panic selling hasn't even begun yet, vintage stuff is going to continue crashing throughout the rest of the year at least.
Cause they don’t look that good Imo
cheap vintage doesnt mean good vintage.
I think the biggest problem with modern sets holding value long term is the pull rates. You can open a wotc era box for example and have about 12 guaranteed holos so people will buy into breaks knowing there's a 1 in 3 chance of pulling one of the best cards. With sword and shield era boxes you can open an entire box and get literally nothing so I don't see people buying into breaks in the future for these sets when you dont have very good odds of getting a good card.
and yet the craze is as insane as ever. My take is this frustration is exactly why the sets will maintain value. Pokemon have conditioned the fans.
Ya talking about evolving skies?
That's the exact reason it will hold value.... there is probably more first edition charizards in existence than moonbreons that will EVER be pulled. Granted the first edition Charizards were used as napkins but still lol.
@@Detigers1990 singles will hold value but boosters and sets won’t.
@@mneri84 doubtful everything will go dry eventually. Depends on how long people can hold on for. Some people plan to hold for 10-15-20 years but they won’t for one reason or another and stuff will be opened.
Mistake I made 20 years ago was not collecting them to bad I didn’t buy a couple boxes of legendary treasure or skyridge and hold onto them
I make a point to give away as many cards as I can to kids. Like a drug dealer, hook em young.
Hahahaha
Same. We hand out Pokémon packs with candy at Halloween and the kids are always thrilled. Modern is still red hot. Our stores are always empty. A restock barely last a couple days. My lgs is also out of booster boxes.
2 things that used to get you laughed at, if you were over the age of 12, were anime and pokemon. It's awesome that both have become mainstream!
I agree, but with certain sets, they might actually end up being more rare than some of the earlier WOTC/D&P/B&W etc. for instance let’s take Team up for example, only one limited wave and it was before the boom in 2019/2020 when demand was lower. Even though ppl love this set, This set is extremely overlooked and underrated for its rarity. Just take a quick look at what’s available on the market for ETB’s and BB’s, you literally can count it on your hands, because there just wasn’t much product to begin with. This was printed way less than base unlimited, jungle unlimited & fossil. Also huge cards in this set that compete price wise with some of the top cards from previous eras, like latias latios alt art, gengar & mim alt art etc. everyone talks about Evolving and moonbreon, but team up was printed way way less, and the top card Latias/latios alt art in a PSA 10 is more expensive than a PSA 10 Moonbreon by hundreds of dollars right now (most recent eBay sale is $1,225). This set was only printed once, never reprinted and never will be. This is a huge sleeper set and I would definitely take a strong position in this over ES personally for the longer term investment/collectibility
Rarity means nothing if there's no demand. People are highly nostalgic for WOTC. Not saying there won't be any nostalgia for SM in the future but it's not even close to what OG pokemon sets bring.
Looking back at this it’s amazing how wrong people were about Evolving Skies.
Yes, the supply abundant right now. But as you point out, the SWSH era has so many great cards. When kids today grow up to have their own income, they’re going to want a piece of it. Demand will go back up
also youtubers will want to buy sealed for their content too so no worries about your collections to sell later down the road lol.
Wish I would have collected all the Pokémon cards from 20 years ago. Never know when the market will go up or down.
I agree 100% at the 6min mark. Modern is beautiful, and it's where the nostalgia is going to be many years from now
ive always said aslong as kids are in the hobby and not priced out of it then the hobby will have a future. this is why things like scalpers scare me so much. when kids cant find product for less than double the retail then they will quickly move onto something else and we will be in trouble in the future if that happens.
My daughter is 6 years old and really likes pokemon- so for Christmas I bought a crown zenith case with 6 tins. We are gonna have a blast going through it together. I bought her an ultra pro binder to safely keep all the great cards we may find...however, long term-If they are valuable, great. If not, my daughter and I had a great time together
What a great video topic, but sadly not much value or analysis in the discussion you've offered.
The fact is, _most_ people don't have the patience to invest in sealed products for decades, they will sell after only a few years when there's a small uptick. The real money is made when you only sell off a small percentage if you need to, but keep the majority for much longer.
Yeah he said nothing basically " just have fun " ... lol
I believe that a good percentage of collectors will eventually open up the sealed product and very little people will actually hold onto sealed product for the long haul. Leavings prices to indefinitely rise.
You are not the only one thinking that…everyone holding the sealed product believes the same as you 💯
I usually don't keep any sealed stuff but now I have 4 Evolving Skies ETB's, 3 Brilliant Stars and 2 Fusion Strike. I will also get 4 Crown Zeith ETB's and keep them sealed :)
Would you be willing to sell an evolving Skies ETB?
Two factors to consider: 1) supply will go lower because they will not be manufactured and people will open sealed products. 2) when the current age kids are old enough to have incomes there will be another boom for nostalgia sake imo.
I think specifically around Tag Team will be the cutoff, I don't remember seeing too much 2017/2018 packs during covid though might just be me.
Positive message. Just enjoy the hobby and experience. If you try to think of everything as monetary values with the intention of increasing, it adds undue stress and expectations to something that is just incredibly fun in and of itself!
For me I don't like collecting sealed product I like collecting the card its self and opening the product, as for UPC collections or ETBs I open and use the packs and take the promos and then I'll use the Opened premium feeling box as display since it has a premium sturdy feel worth keeping same with tins, I open them but keep the left over tins as they still hold collector value and display value to some degree sometimes even used as storage.
As with Many normal collection boxes I buy for the promo cards inside, and leave the box in good to decent conditon which I leave The promos and Jumbos In the box for display, and open the packs to Maybe pull a chase card or pokemon I like to add to my Binder, but at some point I may eventually pull those promos and sleeve them to add to my binder and maybe get a jumbo card binder or leave them in their original box for pure display as I have no where else to put them.
And yes I like collecting Holo Rares, most people seem to throw those aside for whatever reason they still look cool especially paired with a cool art work.
I was becoming afraid that I was the only one who liked to collect rare Holos / Holo rares. I am so glad that someone else appreciates them as well! I always sleeve my rare Holos / Holo rares and treat them with the same level of respect as my other “hits”.
My favourite pattern is the Cosmos pattern. After that would be the Holofoil pattern used for the Delta Species cards, although that makes me sound quite old. I thought that the Tinsel pattern (Black & White TCG Series rare Holo pattern) was fine. I unfortunately could never quite properly appreciate the Sheen pattern (XY TCG Series rare Holo pattern). Although I did not grow up with the Starlight pattern, I truly began to appreciate it after XY Evolutions (XY12). The Sun & Moon TCG rare Holo pattern I liked better than the Sheen pattern of the XY Series. And at first I was not fond of the Holo rare pattern of the Sword & Shield TCG Series, although I have now begun to like it. (The name was changed from “rare Holo” to “Holo rare” after SM12, correct?)
As for promotional cards, I think that the Crosshatch pattern is cool, although I do not own any myself. I am not that fond of the Cracked Ice pattern. The Pixel pattern is fine.
What is/are your favourite pattern/patterns?
But yes, I completely agree with you that rare Holos / Holo rares are oft discarded. I wish that people would not forsake them so.
It was great to know that there are other rare Holo / Holo rare enthusiasts! Thank you so much for your comment. Please have a pleasant day.
(Sorry, I now begin to realise that the majority of the comment pertained to other topics, and that only the very last sentence related to rare Holos / Holo rares. I have a bad habit of fixating on an interest and typing with such excitement, and then editing it for forty-five minutes or so because I am afraid of judgement / social ostracisation. Please forgive me.)
@@williamvest1379 I like some Holo Patterns from older sets, but I also like Sword and Shield holos which are a majority of what I own.
I own a Axew Holo from McDonalds 2012 a friend gave me and a Metagross Holo rare from a 2009 Set i have that has a Crystal like Holo Pattern.
As for Delta Species I have the Celebrations Gardevoir I bought the other day as a single along side a bunch of other Gardevor Mega EX Cards as I don't want to spend the money to open those packs as it's much more worth it to buy the straight up card I want from Sun and Moon or XY Era.
I also like like other Holo patterns from EX Cards that are really old like early 2000s or Cards from like Neo Genesis with the sparkly stary type patterns, I also like current Radiant Card patterns despite them being textured patterns that display on the whole card and not just the image
Like there's a Luigia Holo from way back when i wouldn't mind having.
But I'm only a recent Card collector starting in Sword and Shield I used to not appreciate Pokémon when I was a kid and was never into it until now as my friend got me into it last year.
I guess it was just the Anime I was really only exposed to and it didn't interest me if I was Introduced to the actual games, I probably would have been into it.
@@williamvest1379 I mean If Holos were worth money back then in the early to mid 2000s, who's to say they can't be with today's cards later down the road, I mean if you think about it with how often people just throw them aside they actually might become worth something Years and years later.
Nostalgia and art is the reason why Pokemon survived, scarcity and demand is the reason why pokemon succeeded.
Commons Jake W
Other than the nostalgia value of the base set stuff, I don’t personally know how the 4 gold cards in Crown Zenith could be topped art-wise… by far the most stunning cards ever made imo
I don't see the point in a sealed collection personally. I open everything I get because I'm in it for the cards, and I love my ETB collection, all opened, too. I do appreciate people that do this though! It's nice to be able to buy older stuff to open. 😊
What's going on everyone. Hope we all are having a wonderful day.
As long as your stuff quadruples in value in 20 years (Doubling every 10) it meets the Wall Street gauge of a good Return on Investment (ROI).
So with this most recent Gamestop sale as long as those Morpeko V box Crown Zenith packs are worth about $12 each in 20 years then it will have been a good purchase.
Most people won’t hold on to their collections that long. I know a ton of people who started “collecting” sealed product during the Pokémon boom since 2020. The majority have already sold them off or opened them. They wanted to be “a collector” or “investor” but they just weren’t.
we dont keep anything sealed, open it all and have fun!! Get some HUGE hits? Grade em and display them. My collection consists of about 25-30 heavy hitters in nice magnetic "slabs" and atm 10 graded cards. Hopefully get more of the BIG cards graded this year when i get more $$
I don’t know.. all my sealed booster boxes in acrylic cases look prettyyy good. Boxes rarely go down so I’m not losing a dollar
@@Likethat3245 are u going to sell or just hold them lol?
I come from sports cards but really enjoy the idea of collecting Pokémon wax. I don’t get the itch to rip it because I know very little so I’m holding boxes for the 10-20 year range. I have a pretty cool collection so far
All I hope for from my sealed collection is that it appreciates about 5-10% per year to slightly do better than my other investments
So I went through the comic book and sports card hype as a kid in the 90s, with the illusion of that it will go up in value. Little did I know that they mass produced the crap out of those during those times. What I learned from that was I, personally, should only be collecting the stuff I like, and not purchase for only investment reasons. I just got into Pokemon cards recently to collect but with the focus on just only buying singles of the Pokemon that I want/like. I'll buy a pack or two randomly every now and again as well just for the thrill. If the value goes up in 20 years, I'm happy, if it doesn't I'm still happy.
Dude you’re so right, I used to get laughed at now people are like oooo 👀👀👀
I agree with you Jake. The newer cards are looking much better. I'm excited.
As someone who started collecting right around 2 years ago (like most modern collectors, started during the pandemic peak), my view is that it's pointless to attempt to collect vintage stuff, especially in terms of sealed products, simply because those products have reached their peak of value. They are just super expensive and they will hardly become any more expensive in future. It is worth just "start over" and buy modern products for cheap and let them become vintage down the line. All of this assuming that the goal of starting a collection is to create some sort of "savings investment" to re-convert in cash after a few years, which is what I am essentially doing, and I think many do too. One day I will resell my stuff, and although I will be happy to get some money out of it, I will also be sad because I like my collection and it will be tough to separate from it.
The sets keep getting better but there are risks also in that. When everything is special, actually nothing is special. This has been huge problem in Magic the Gathering in recent years.
Pokémon aren’t complete slobs and so greedy they make stupid decisions like hasbro - they manage their print runs better to keep demand and value solid
@@rodolfomedina5196 True, and hopefully also in the future.
It's part of history man. In 20 years the price will be much more up maybe millions like rear artworks ...
I think sealed product has a decent change of good growth through the years. People will pay for that nostalgia. However, I do remain a bit skeptical about cards that were printed to the moon. The Junk Wax era of Baseball taught me that in the early 90's when I was a kid. Everyone thought those cards would be valuable today and they're simply not.
To be fair baseball in general is falling off while Pokemon has a tendency to renew itself every generation
If you see pokemon card boxes or packs as a future investment, then by all means invest, but pokemon cards are meant to provide joy and nostalgia...just have fun and collect the cards you like and want to keep in your collection and that's it
I have a pretty crazy sealed collection been collecting last 3 years and im still buying. I told my fiancé that in 40-50 years if they are not worth anything then at my funeral I was the most craziest pack opening party!!
There'll be 1 million people all trying to sell each other the same stuff and it wont work
Leaves the gains to the rest of us then 💪
Well, I didn’t expect it to have value 20 years ago… so if it doesn’t have value in another 20, at least I would have had fun with it and introduced my kids to collecting. I already made some profit out of it so all good. Opening sealed products has always been a bad experience for me unfortunately. So I just collect singles I enjoy now.
Pokemon as a whole not just the cards has not and probable never will be as big as it was from 98-01 (Gen 1 is still the best selling game). Back then it was treated as a fad. Adult collectors really didn't exist like in baseball cards because as it would be embarrassing and the kids never took care of their cards. Now jump 20-25 years later these 90s kids (myself included) are looking to relive their childhood and want to buy the old cards which are very limited (and the youtube FOMO). Supply will be high this time around even if there is a demands 20+ years from now (I do not think there will be as much) Starting with Pokemon go in 2016 and how popular the switch is and pokemon sells on there the franchise has been given a second chance. I lived through the first crash in popularity in the early 00's and I do feel like the franchise as a whole is on verge of second crash but it wont be as severe. Even with the most expensive cards you would have been better off investing in stocks then pokemon cards.
TLDR: do NOT think of this as an investment. Collect what you like , you can afford, and what makes you happy.
Im on the Crown Zenith train for long term SWSH sealed collection. Alot of pokemon that people like all packed into one set along with the GG hits for more fruitful yield. I think its the Hidden fates of SWSH since Shining Fates fell flat with not a big full art shiny vault of pokemon that people even like. Crown Zenith GGs are basically a crazy Vault. Evolving skies will climb but i think it will cap off due to everyone having PTSD from how horrible the pull rates are lol.
Modern is doing better than vintage. More people into that market and the returns on a lot of it is insane. Vintage has its own fan base and that’s good and modern you can spend $5 and hit a card with beautiful artwork and worth a couple hundred dollars. People will have nostalgia from the Covid modern era
In 20 years time, alot of those people that have sealed boxes would probably have sold or opened them. Leaving less product available.
While I agree with what you’re saying, and I’m guilty of the same, I think you might be overestimating 2 things. 1) the number of people that collect sealed product and, 2) the number of people that can keep sealed product. I’m in quite a few FB groups for Pokémon and MTG, and there’s a lot of people that will actually help our sealed collections grow in value. And that’s because they can’t hold sealed product, because they want to rip packs, more than they want sealed product. They just can’t stop themselves from opening it. So, the amount of sealed product out there is still going down.
Jake nice video man, love it! I'm going to stop collecting the new set that will be coming out because i just love the older cards and SM & SWSH had the old generations cards which kind of gave nostalgia. Will be focusing on the older cards before it is too late when price rises for those cards. lets see, will be very challenging!
Hi Jake thank you for the video. I was wondering if you could continue to talk about budget spending and continue the $100 monthly collecting video's? Or just give advice on a $1,200- $2,000 a year limit for collecting especially with the upcoming increase with MSRP on new products please. 🙏❤
i started collecting during swsh lost origin... so i'm a fairly new collector... and there's some sun & moon products i want but it's either non-existent or too expensive :(
i predict the 2004 and onward sets will be the next hot vintage products as people from that generation get older and gain the income to collect the cards from their childhood just like the people from the decade prior
I have a good feeling that the market will fluctuate over time as it has normally done. During dips we could see cards and some sealed products fall in value from loss of popularity before rising again when popularity returns.
That's the most basic opinion anybody has ever given
@@MRkriegs because that's exactly what happens. Nobody actually knows what's going up and what's going down and when that will actually occur. It's the best anyone can do is make a guess.
Those pics of the display cabinets with sealed product look basically like mine 😂😂 got my graded cards on top shelf, and then booster boxes and etbs and other sealed product below. And can’t forget a couple plushies.
I remember seeing peoples collections during 2020-21 and it feels good to have something I created myself!
Sealed product and charizards are pretty solid guaranteed. Most sets wont last unsealed
This is like wartching a video from 2016. "Everyone is collecting now and newer sets won't be as valueable" is something everyone says. People tens to forget that people aren't as stubborn as they would like to be or that people sometimes have difficulties with their finances and therefore have to sell their collection
Nice video Jake. I think it's really important to enjoy and like what you collect. We don't know the future, but if you enjoy your collection that's all that matters. Cheers!
I mean everyrhing will go up in value if they never print them again and if the hobby is thriving
I disagree with that statement you made @8:29 that most people don't think they are sitting on a gold mine. Because, I believe it is the opposite. Everyone thinks they have a gold mine and are building their retirement or something. I agree with your message.... that it's not really the case. I think that modern Pokemon is so overprinted, that some day people are going to start trying to cash in on their collection and the market is going to be flooded with junk. Way too many hoarders in the hobby and way too much in print now.
Yup I feel they over printed yeah like I sold everything cause I feel this is gonna happen like ultra rare that were kinda hard pull I see everywhere 😂🤣 and cheap so I got outta hobby I don't want be stuck with stuff later that family will probably just throw out honestly only people making money is Pokemon they turn paper to cash 😂
I'm sorry Jake... everybody does not have a sealed collection. Sealed product collecting is not what the average collector does. Maybe 30- 35% of people have sealed collections but it is nowhere near EVERYBODY like you claim. Just want to put in that little correction. Out of the circle of 20 people around me who collect... 1 of us has at least 1 sealed item. The other 19 of us don't even have 1 sealed item. That's 5% of the collectors I know as an example.
That's fair!
I have like 14 etb sealed and i have over 1000 pokemom cards
It's my collection. I don't care how much it'll be worth in 2040, I ain't going to sell it ever :D
My small investments on the other hand... Like VMAX Climax, got a few boxes of that, a modern set printed to oblivion that everybody invested in. And yet the only thing I'm thinking right now is that I should have bought more of it when I could find it at around 60 haha.
Pokemon collectors will only increase in numbers, but sports collectors/collections are going to take a hit at the same time, IMO. There has not only been a decline in viewership of sports, but there is a decline in participation as well. On the reverse side, Pokemon's popularity is increasing, and even sports collectors are getting their feet wet in the hobby. I wouldn't be surprised if over the long-term Pokemon didn't also overtake Magic. At some point, the price of cards for sports and Magic get so high, it prices out the vast majority of collectors. Pokemon is still much more accessible than both sports and Magic cards.
I’ve been saying this for months and no one’s wants to talk about it for fear of making it become a reality..could Pokemon be baseball cards from the 90s?? Everyone thought these baseball cards are gonna be worth loads of money and now 30 years later you can fine sealed baseball wax all over the place at yard sales for a few dollars..makes me think I should sell all my modern cards before they dip from the next newest and best thing to be released….
Bro I did I honestly feel they over printed like I see ultra rare hyper rare everywhere going for 50 % "market value" whatever that means I just don't want get stuck with bunch cards later hundreds of people trying to sell didn't make my money back of course but enjoyed the hobby moving on tho ❤
Pokémon will be forever. Lots of people have grown up with it. In 20 year we have even more money to collect the exclusive ones!
Its the TH-cam Pokémon collectors starter set!!! Everyone is collecting based off TH-cam recommendations. That's why everyone collection looks the same. Most of the channels talk about the same thing.
You just said it ,it’s in a collection so it not being sold so it’s worth more 😂🎉
Once again you are correct. The questions about collecting are important
I honestly prefer a future where prices aren’t insanely high and I can buy singles to complete my collection. Sealed items I feel will always gain value since people always love opening vintage/retro things. And Pokémon media is still really high in demand
I love looking at the outside of a booster box 🤩🤩looks so beautiful on a shelf 🥴🥴
The money in my wallet from selling sealed booster boxes for hundreds in future is going to look even better
Only "investment" i made was buying 10 ETBs for CZ seems impossible for it to do badly long term.. (last yellow border set, Last SWSH set, Sick pulls, Holiday set so no booster box market)
What's your opinion on the UPC ? I opened one to send the metal cards in for grading , should I open another one I have to the cards graded with another CGC and keep my third on sealed ?
There are so many people in the space now, just because you are in the hardcore area of it and see many with sealed and chase cards. But there are tons of people who still need all these items, me included. I dont think we will see prices like the vintage sealed, but 3-5 times MSRP, I dont think thats a stretch by any means.
We also have to consider the fact that once the pokemon company stopped printing SWSH era sets... This is when the sealed "stock" in the world will be finite for SWSH... As long as there are people wanting them, this finite "stock" will continue to diminish, thus increasing value... but of course, we are guessing if this massive amount of "stock" can satisfy the unknown demand of current fans enjoying breaking packs... And who knows whether this demand will go to new fans as well... These are the unknown factors that will determine its future value...
I just collect special items like UPC or the Evee Hereos Gym Box and the Stamp japanease box. Do you think these go up more ?
The more exclusive an item is, the better it'll do long term. You're on the right path 👍
I think you'll do just fine with those
The rule of thumb is, as soon as it’s not on the shelf at box retailers the price doubles.
I don't think everyone will hold forever. It's an itch to scratch, so if the set is popular (not crimson invasion) it will go the way of xy evolution and other expensive modern sets. Hopefully Japanese promos really catch on. Low pop
I never really considered the value of my collection. If managed to aquire one of every NA standard release garchomp and Cynthia cards. Some of them costed pennies while other a "bit" more. I love them all the same. Who knows what they will be worth in 20 years.
I got a Pokémon box , it says fossil on it. Is it valuable?
I really disagree. I think the end of SwSh sets are going to be worth a lot of money in 10yrs. Yes there's more product yes there's more collectors but there's also more demand and that to will grow will everything. Because the art has reached a new peak so to will these sets. And historically that's what happens.
I get that. It's hard for me to predict modern because the next 10 sets could be amazing and completely overshadow SWSH era.
I believe you are vastly overestimating how many people actually hoard sealed products vs the amount of small time collectors
20 yeras is a life time. i came to that conclusion today. from 30 to 50 it better be worth something. i
I think it would be cool to bring back reverse holo shinies like they did with the platinum era. for some reason that era screams nostalgia to me. That or maybe a Neo 2 set bringing back a gen 2 set
Not gonna collect much for SV set, but will still show my support. Im kinda burn out and wanna try other hobbies. But will keep my pokemon collection for long term.
WE have those ETBs and booster boxes now! any new collectors or investors in the coming years wont have that inventory and will want it, and the more past sets that get opened the better for the sealed collector in terms of potential future sales, another booster box opened is another booster box out of circulation and hopefully they wont be reprinted once the silver borders take over, that my way of thinking anyway ;)
That's if we all have a future given what the WEF keep pushing...