@Anna Alfieri Its been some time but I hope you’re doing well! even if you stumbled it happens and you’re no lesser for it 💕 wishing you good health both mentally and physically
@@atheisticallyyours1600 this may be the case for some people, but others actually have physical symptoms that are alleviated by continued use of whatever they are addicted to or they don't know of any other way to cope with whatever may have caused them to use it in the first place. Not everything is as simple as how you make it sound. It does help a lot if somebody is commited to not using something anymore, but not everyone can stop cold on short notice.
This segment totally educated me and my adult daughter about rampant problems in this industry. We watched this show many times and used it to "vet" potential recovery centers. Aetna sent a list of 154 in-network providers; all but three failed our litmus test. My daughter researched yelp and google reviews, even facebook reviews. It was eye-opening. I thank John Oliver from the bottom of my heart for this information. It took three months for my daughter to get a bed in a recovery center that IS a great rehab center (Montecatini in San Diego). Your rehab section kept us away from the predators.
Yes, please share your litmus test! I almost signed up for one this morning, but something kept telling me to re-watch this episode and I am so glad I did.
My son was in a Military Veterans establishment in Los Angeles. I am not sure how much they did to help him. I went to visit him there a couple of times. It was not particularly clean, rather dingy and depressing. Guess I would not expect it to be all that "cheerful" but it was so dingy, and the couch in the waiting room was literally ripped. So sad. Glad you found a good place.
Congrats on your sobriety man. Every day is another victory. It is possible but rare to get clean without going to rehab, but as someone who tried (and failed) to get clean on my own several times and then finally went to a real rehab and learned the skills, tools, and lessons about staying clean, I was finally able to stay sober. It's been 2 months shy of 8 years for me now. So congrats on your sobriety, but so many people need to truly learn how to stay clean. The failure rate for even those going to rehab is like 70%, and I imagine the failure rate for people without rehab is much, much higher. So TL;DR congrats to you and your sobriety but rehab (an actual good, accredited rehab, with actual doctors and medical personnel) can save your life. And I say that from years of experience.
Faithfully? I've been an addict more years than I've been sober and I'm afraid you lost me there. Like heroin only? Or devoted to your daily fix? Or what? Just curious not trying to upset you. Congrats on your sobriety.
I developed an Adderall addiction in college. I told my father, who used to be an alcoholic, that I should go to a rehab clinic to get clean. He said to me, "Those places are scams; talk to a drug councilor, and then go to AA or NA instead." Looking back on it, I'm glad I took his advice."
The fact that your dad or you thinks he "used to" be an alcoholic and that he recommended a "therapy" system who refuses to report their success statistics because they're so bad.... Do what you gotta do and I'm glad you're sober, but AA and NA are notoriously shit.
@@mnschoen not sure about your experience, but my grandfather just got his 40 year chip from AA. no clue about how NA works though. seems like it just might not be a good fit for everyone, but don't knock it til you try it :)
Maybe your dad should‘ve given you the advice to not take drugs in the first place. What the fuck is it with american and get addicted?? Get some grip, you losers.
"Getting sober is hard, but nothing is harder than an 8 minute phone call with another human being" 2 years clean of heroin and truer words have never been spoken
Congrats on your two years, I'm almost 90 days clean from xanax. I went "One and Done" as they say and I can say with certainty that I did this completely by myself. The Rehab I went to claimed to have evidence based treatment, but only did CBT and DBT which in most cases are not very effective. Needless to say, I pretty much got scared straight talking to the other patients who'd been in rehab multiple times and lost many friends. And that's really all it took for me.
Sarkastik Leader right? Love this man. He can make light of everything and then the next moment show you everything horrible with a situation. He is great at what he does.
ALL of my favorite artists and comedians, from the ancient ones until now, do this and do it well and originally. They are the true role models, not our alleged "leaders" and wealthy businessmen.
I guess it is too soon to rehash that old dead horse of a joke where I specify that I used to be addicted to soap but that I am clean now right? Sorry. Forget I said anything.
I can't thank you enough for making your main stories available to the public via youtube. I know Oliver claims to just be in it for the laughs, but your program with it's wonderful researchers and writers make for a shockingly good news outlet. Never stop. All these insights help people live better lives and strive for a better future.
I feel the same way about John Oliver. He's amazingly knowledgeable his deliverery can't be beat We learn so much from him, watch him constantly. Really thankful for the access to his show.
As someone who went to multiple rehabs and failed every time, I can concur...rehabs are a joke. I ultimately got clean by doing it myself, which was insanely hard and I’m lucky I didn’t die in detox, but I had no other choice. I was definitely going to die if I didn’t do something. I just hit my 3 year anniversary.
For my brother it took a SERIOUS rehab for a year or prison. You start and end sleeping with the homeless and it actually worked. Sadly they are overwhelmed and need to expand.
Alicia I just wanted to give you a hug after I read your last sentence! That is amazing, and to have done it on your own, seriously! You have my sincerest respect!
Try going to an hairdresser when you're feeling suicidal & being asked; "What you doing after this?/at the weekend?", or being asked by a taxi driver what you do for a living when you're too ill to work (bipolar & chronic pain.) Even an "How are you?" from someone you know makes you wonder where a sinkhole is when you need 1✌🏻😓 Try binaurals amigos, they help restore us to a peaceful state without human interaction😊 Much Love x
Psychkemia nah. I am a total introvert but after staying on bed for more than 5 months and not walking due to a knee injury, I’d love to talk to someone for more than 8 hours. You get lonely.
I think that this issue of addiction is the ultimate challenge. I hate drugs, cigarettes and alcohol but food is my Achilles heel. I sometimes feel like going into a rehab center but after this video I think it's not really an option anymore.
I am a recovering heroin addict, 2 years clean and sober. There is not such think as a cure in a standard sense. It is a lifetime of work. I am good today and that is what matters.
Good job man. I worked as a counselor at a rehab place and while it paid very little, it was very rewarding when I would see a former client out in the community working and living a better life. Wish the best for you.
I recently watched Bojack Horseman, and the Pastiches Centre really reminded me of this, a revolving door centre of sketchy practices not based in evidence, run by "Doctor Champ", who is not a Dr but is simply named "Doctor", and repeatedly stresses that he is not a therapist but a therapy horse held to no standards. It's excellently done.
0:16 "to drugs or alcohol" I just love how our society separates "drugs" and "alcohol" because of how socially accepted alcohol is, yet it is just as much destructive as other drugs
A beer can't kill you, a syringe of heroin can. It takes years of abuse for alcohol to kill you, not to forget it doesn't automatically lead to addiction. Those are big differences that justify alcohol and drugs being separated.
While many things about alcohol are positive in comparison to other drugs, there is one very negative thing about alcohol. It kills brain cells. A drugs addict that recovers will get his/her full use of her brain again. An alcohol addict is drinking him- or herself stupid. Your brain does not recover from the lose of brain cells.
L'impie Ever hear of alcohol poisoning? If your system isn't accustomed to alcohol, your chances of dying from it are much higher. And I've tried heroin, no immediate addiction. It didnt kill me. I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
L'impie Also, it's competely unfair to compare beer to heroin when much stronger alcohol is available. You had a better chance at a valid argument if you used everclear or moonshine in comparison to drugs.
I personally know multiple people who had a heroin addiction(Netherlands). They got a different medicine(methadone, buprenorfin) to replace heroin for a while, after that they got the care they needed to quit the medicine too(which is easier). Most of them are having a normal life, kids, work... Methadon is free in the Netherlands, addicts who want to quit can get treatment. All the treatment is free, even if you are not insured.
after that they got the care they needed to quit the medicine" This is the part I do not see ever happening here in the Us anytime soon. Healthcare for anything long term is a joke
I live in North Carolina. I had to spend 4 hours calling multiple 1-800 #'s within my insurance company. It took 4 or 5 calls to different numbers to finally get someone to talk to me who could help me (Blue Cross Blue Shield Insurance company). I was literally saying "I'm addicted to opiates and I need to find a doctor who can help me get treatment". I couldn't believe how long it took to find someone who could help me. I told them exactly what health plan I had with them and it took hours for the lady who finally helped me to give me literally 3 doctors names and phone numbers who could potentially help me that were covered under my health plan. God bless that lady and her patience for helping me. So I call those 3 numbers and one ended up being a pediatrician (obviously couldn't help me I'm in my 20's). The second number ended up not providing opioid treatment. And thank god the third number was a doctor who could help me. Bad news was that my first appointment got set for 2.5 weeks away. I could have died in that time frame. Finally, 2.5 long weeks later I went to my first appointment. $400 out of pocket (I have a $1500/annual deductible). I got a Buprenorphine medication right then and there thank God. But I had to pay $200 out of pocket every two weeks just to get another prescription until I finally hit my $1500 deductible. I only had to pay $30 a visit after that. But let me tell you, this whole process was way too difficult and expensive. I can see why people don't even try to get help because it's so difficult to find real help here in the USA from my experience.
I felt the need to make a comment about the maintenance drugs being “easier” to quit. This is untrue. I and several people I know are stuck on bupe. I am on 2-3mgs a day and am not in active addiction anymore yet I am still addicted (physically) to this drug. I ran out for 11 day earlier this year and it was hellish. Way worse than my iv heroin cold turkey attempts. Way. Worse. But.. If used “correctly” it’s very helpful. And by “correctly” I mean no more than a 30 day taper.
@@CasparSG And in Germany, you need insurance for your insurance, so that you know that you're always insured. Germans are controllfreaks with lovely Pretzels and a very fascinating harsh language.
John Oliver: The guy who talks about subjects you initially don't know or care about, but by the end realize their importance and feel bad for learning about the problems yet want to find a solution.
Waffles The Wookie nope bullshit my man. Liberals look at fucked up shit and go "damm how can we make sure people do not have to go through this crap ". Conservatives mostly go " well fuck it ain't me I'm doing fine
American society glorifies drug addicts like The Weeknd and drug-fueled clubs like fraternities and sororities, and ostracizes people as "uncool" if they don't participate in drinking and doing drugs. And then they wonder why so many addicts exist.
Most fraternities and sororities which are not based on a particular field, have at least one resident dealer, who has weed, cocaine, etc...Decades ago, while delivering pizza to a social fraternity at the University of Michigan, I accidentally walked in to their coke party....
Ian Goodman Drugs and heavy usage of them have been around a lot longer than fraternities and this culture that "glorifies drug usage". Could it be that altering your state of mind and the biologically addictive properties of these substances are inherent to the human condition and not just some problem we can collectively blame others for? Come on man. I don't know anyone past the age of 25 who thinks drug addiction is cool. I don't see know any adults who idolise alcoholics for their alcoholism. I'm sure culture has a role, but drug usage and addiction transcends cultures and time. What was the heavy use of amphetamines and opiates attributed to in the early 20th century, and why has the huge cultural backlash against the hazards of alcohol, opiates, tobacco, etc not created an equal shift away from drug usage if culture really plays such a significant role?
You know who should be treating addiction? Doctors. A team of doctors. Licensed doctors. And psychiatrists should be in there too, obviously. Rehab facilities should not just be opened by anyone, and they should be regulated. And data should be collected and analysed regularly by scientists to see the trajectory.
Yvonne Wabai Yeah harm reduction is a better and cheaper way of handling addicts. Just look at Switzerland. And Portugal also did a good job by decriminalising all drugs. This should be the focus. Not a hard-line and inefficient drug policy. th-cam.com/play/PLnRJvghVvf5ziaVkqQST4OpZ9UtsW1GwU.html
You think doctors arent just as cash hungry? If you live in the us you know doctors are mostly idiots shilling products sold to them by pharma companies.
noooo, no more regulation- don't be a fool- it's up to the client to choose what's right for them- government regulation (for the most part) doesn't end well.
If they're paying for it by themselves, then they can be free to choose what they're using. If they want to use insurance money, they should use what has proven to work. No regulation means I could be the guy that is organizing your rehab - some clueless dude from youtube whose qualification is that he watched an episode of John Oliver on how to suck insurances dry using piss.
Absolutely! My wife is a pharmacist in a facility like that. And sadly our county is the only one in Ohio, I believe it's he only one, that funds these facilities.
After my first stationary therapy (12 months) I received a call of a social worker who asked to visit me for inquiry. They did a study about how people who underwent longterm therapy were doing, to gauge the success rate. Now she visited me 22 months after therapy and I was 100% sober. 3 months later I relapsed, so in the said study I'm listed in the success group. Serious studies should be done 5 yrs after treatment, then they might actually reflect partly the reality.
Agreed. I relapsed 4 times and went to 4 inpatient rehabs and 2 outpatient rehabs before I got my shit together. Now I have over 4 years. Do you know what honestly made the difference? Well, 3 things actually. 1. I stopped going to AA and replaced it with SOS which is much less culty. 2. I started taking suboxone. 3. I stopped being wrapped up in what other people thought of me. I spent my entire life trying to be who I thought other people wanted me to be, to the detriment of my own sense of self. But even now, I'm not cured. I am abstinent from drugs and thus this condition is being managed. But I'll never stop being an addict. If I stop managing my condition, I am likely to relapse
John missed a few things btw. I wrote an article about this issue several years ago. I reblogged it on Tumblr if anyone is interested. I found mob ties for some of the owner of some of these south florida rehab organizations and uncovered a number of shady business practices to boot. My post is a bit long but impeccably researched with screenshots and everything. www.tumblr.com/blog/skepticraven
@@D_skeptic hey Dana, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm currently trying to get and stay clean & sober as well. What exactly is this "SOS" you mentioned? The extreme culty-ness of AA/NA is putting me off, so I'd love another option ..
@@chipskylark5500 P.S. I should probably add to my last comment that there are also LifeRing Secular Recovery meetings which are similar to SOS from what I've heard. And SMART Recovery Meetings are kind of like free group therapy and there is generally a licensed therapist running the group. If you feel like AA/NA isn't working for you, its probably time to try something else.
@@D_skeptic thank you so much for this information Dana, I really appreciate you going out of your way to help me out like this. Your blogpost was also extremely interesting and well researched!
This is definitely the first time I've wanted to cry over a video from last week Tonight. My mother died from addiction and she never got the help she needed.
My question was, what did he die of, if it was of something unrelated to drug use then the only reason to mention that fact is to score points with the audience.
I was surprisingly let down that they missed this punchline. My expectations were so high, and then we just moved forward faking that this was the punchline we wanted all along.
@@Dustinson This episode predates the 4 Seasons Landscaping debacle by two years. They couldn't have made a joke about it at the time. Though it's fun to imagine all of the things they could have said since we are here looking back on it.
I know this is a bit different, but as someone who was forced to go to an eating disorder rehab as a kid, they seriously need to have more regulations and standards. I wasn’t allowed to go outside for over two weeks, and I only did eventually get to go outside because I broke out the front door. They only had about a week or so’s worth of activities and exercises and the exact same materials and grainy TH-cam videos would loop over and over again. They’d often go through the same packet two days in a row. If you had any complaints whatsoever, whether it was “I don’t remember what sunlight on my skin feels like anymore” or “this is the third time we’ve watched this TH-cam video this week and it’s an hour long”, they’d ask you to go and distract yourself with a frozen orange or some silly putty. Most of your day was spent doing absolutely nothing for hours on end confined inside of a tiny living-room because they only allowed you to play board games for 60 minutes a day even if there wasn’t anything planned for 4 hours at a time. When I came back from rehab, I continued all the behaviors I had from before, except for I was even more careful to be secretive about it and my dad had given the rehab $72,000 out of my college savings which, by the way, was basically all of my college savings. This shit needs to fucking change.
下佐粉ケイ Holy shit. That kind of a nightmare scenario is exactly why I hid my issues. If the alternative is forceful treatment that makes you suffer and anxious and isn't planned for your needs anyway and basically wrecks the planned future then I'd rather continue on my own. Sorry to hear you had to go through it, hope you're doing better regardless.
That is... horrifying. That should be unacceptable for a free public healthcare service, and the fact that you paid your college education's worth of money for it either breaks my heart or makes my blood boil, I can't quite tell yet.
Blake F That’s what I wanted to know! But honestly, I think the idea was that it was supposed to be that since a lot of the other clients had rubber bands they snapped against their wrists when they had urges, I guess gripping the freezing orange was supposed to be a less harmful way of hurting yourself.
John Oliver is doing a great public service with these informative, entertaining, and above all, critical looks at things that are happening. This is basically what the skeptical community is about, and what scientific skeptics around the world have been doing for a long time. John Oliver just has a far bigger platform to do it from than pretty much anybody else. And he does it so well too. There are many brilliant skeptics doing essentially investigative journalism into many scams, and trying to educate people, to immunize them against scammers, but too often they play to too small crowds, mostly comprised of people who already have a good critical outlook, and at least a decent knowledge base in the basics of critical thinking. John Oliver gets the message out to a lot of people who would likely never find the skeptical communities, or be interested enough to look into what they are about.
And sad thing is that nothing is changing or has changed. So many topics he discussed where u see how fucked up the system and the politicians are and nobody gives a fuck. It just continues...
When I watched this video two years ago I had no idea I would be losing my little brother to drug addiction a year and a half later. Man.. this video hits home today.
There's also still a big social risk to going to rehab. I had one friend not go to rehab for alcoholism (perfectly legal, of course) because she was getting a security clearance and that might have impacted her eligibility. I went to a (normal) therapist at Kaiser Permanente and was halfway through the first time patient questionnaire when I realized the questions were getting oddly specific about drug use. I brought the clipboard back up to the front and told her I just needed a regular counseling session, and her eyes got huge and she was like "OMG I'm so sorry! I'm going to have to delete your appointment and re-enter it in the system. You do NOT want addiction therapy on your record." Part of me was like "oh I'm glad I noticed," but also, wtf? If institutions view seeking help for substance abuse issues as a negative thing, stigmatizing it, they discourage people from recovering.
One of the reasons I was afraid of getting sober long after I knew it was a problem was because of the way people would view me both as an employee and a person. I live in Texas where alcoholism is damn near mandatory for citizenship, and even mentioning that I had gone to an AA meeting caused people to look at me like "What's wrong with that guy?" Then a little over a year ago, I finally had to pull the trigger and go completely clean. I'm better off for it even with having to deal with a certain amount of stand-offish people (including one person who actually told me if I can't handle alcohol and have to quit completely, that's a sign of weakness). I sucks that my social life is now basically over, but I had to make a choice, and I know I made the right one.
John Oliver and the people that work with him are real life superheroes, using powers the rest of us can barely comprehend to shine light into the darker reaches of our society. As a proud American, I call this show a National Treasure, and I hope we all become a little bit better for having it. Thanks John
It's an American show. American's wouldn't get the joke. He could have actually done a joke like that and it fell flat and was edited out. In America "taking the piss" is just a weird way to say "taking a piss". But yes, it would have been funny to some of us.
You shouldn’t be a doctor, I’m ashamed of the medical system now that you’re in it. You should know better than this. Yes changes need to be made, but everything in medicine does, and you should know better, you should be ashamed, you know why? You know damn well it’s dangerous to stop certain things without medical supervision, people can actually die.
@@patricia8254 I’m pretty sure they meant that when getting sober, the most important thing was starting by finding a doctor that was certified in addiction medicine. Not that they’re a doctor.
@@TheMaddestHatter234 Even if you go to a doctor; some people need to be monitored, which is more than they usually can at a hospital, it costs too much to just treat addiction in them, and mental hospitals are just as bad. Monitoring in certain people for more than a week is necessary, coming off a substance is shocking to the body, and uncomfortable, so rehabs serve a propuse, more regulation and over head is needed to improve them. John Oliver and his little team aren’t the best and their message has a lack of insight, as do other segments.
@@patricia8254 I feel that you may have misunderstood my point- I meant that when looking for a rehab center, the first resource one should go to is to a doctor who is board certified in addiction medicine, that doctor will know which rehab places are good and which are not. In the same way that if you were looking for a book, you'd go to a librarian. The librarian isn't the same as the book, but due to their job they can find you the right one.
Yeah, well, it would be cool if he realized that his critiques, the premises of most of his long segments, are only addressing symptoms of the primary problem infecting our culture: the capitalist economic system, its corresponding paradigms and therefore its negative impact on our values (more more more ... profits). It's convinced all of us that the only way people will be innovative is if there is competition and a monetary incentive to do so. As long as a system driven by profits is in place, people and societies will be exploited & manipulated & decimated(like with the pharmaceutical industry - WE are its longitudinal test subjects since long-term studies are not required for a new drug to be released. The drug is released onto society, immense profits are made from that drug, long-term public health impacts occur after immense profits, mass tort claims are filed and happily and handily paid off by those profits. Hey, your baby had congenital birth defects from zoloft, hey you got diabetes from atypical antipsychotics ... sorry ... but no problem judge, the 2 billion in mass tort claims is a mere 10% profits from 1 drug in our entire portfolio) so as to make as much possible. This is our culture. This is why rehabs proliferate. This is why the planet is being fucked up, etc etc etc It's time for capitalism to end, people.
My son has been 8 times. John is right. Most rehabs do not know wtf they are doing. The situation is even worst for under 18 folks. Panicked and desperate parents are easy pickings for these corrupt outfits. My ex wife was thrilled to send my son to an equine therapy bullshit place. It partly explains why she is my ex. Thank you John. Always informative, always relevant and always entertaining. You are a national treasure.
John Oliver should do a segment on Residential Treatment Centers for struggling adolescents, I’m in one and I think that people should know more about them in a light hearted way, and I think it is so important
Or look up life challenge, it's nationwide. You live there for free for a year, good donated food but...and here's a big but, you are not allowed phones,tv, books except the bible, if u go to the dentist or doctor you have a escort. Your tested weekly for nicotine also. You start at 6am with a full hour church service, then classes on the bible all day long, then another church service at 900 then 930 bedtime, oh and 5 min allowed showers at 830
I hope that John does a follow up on this. I have worked in 4 different Rehabs, and they are pretty much the same, all they care about is the insurance money.
I was a heroin addict for over 10 years. I'd tried to quit, and failed, so many times I'd given up. I knew it was going to kill me, and I didn't care anymore. My girlfriend at the time got pregnant, and the day my daughter was born I finally quit again. I've been clean over 7 years now, and I know it's only because the birth of my child, and the amazing woman I was with, that I'm still here. It is a lifetime struggle, I don't want to use again, ever, but I also know I have to be careful not to out myself in temptations way. I don't know what the answer is, how does someone get clean, I got lucky and I know it. But it is possible. You really do have to want it, and you have to reach out for help. Good luck to all those still struggling, it is worth it. It's not easy, but it's absolutely worth it.
@@wcolautti Thank you. I don't think there's anything in the world that would make me give up what I have now and go back to using, but just the fear that it's possible keeps me terrified of any opiates lol. I hope others are able to free themselves from it as well. It's the only thing id classify as pure evil, bit the allure is strong.
LWT only gets the issues right, most of the time. For example: When their segment on Opioids ran, there already had been a wave of suicides by chronic pain patients, in Washington State, who could not find another pain clinic, after the one they had been using closed. I've dealt with attitudes despite being a responsible patient for over a decade, and having broken four vertebra, due to being almost killed by a drunk driver. This is the part of the story that LWT basically ignored, and currently it is almost impossible to be treated for severe chronic pain, even if your injury causes debilitating pain, and is slowly killing you....
Ian Goodman Well be glad that you have not lost anyone dear to you. People dying by the thousands and not having anything resembling proper help is serious bud.
I love this. I am a recovering heroin addict in Canada. I've been in methadone treatment along with outpatient treatment for 7 years now, no relapses in that 7 years I have 2 daughters, happily married, successful and happy.My life is not perfect, I have systemic lupus and days can be fucking hard but I get by with the help of my methadone doctor, my therapist, constant monitoring and I don't pay for anything. I went to rehab here that my parents did pay for bc all of the government funded beds were taken and it was a 2 week wait to get one at the rehab near my parents and they didn't want to take the risk of letting me go use for another 2 weeks. They paid $8000 for 4 months of treatment. We were told from the get go that the success rate of addicts getting clean is extremely low .... as low as 10% of us. I relapsed after treatment and learned how to inject from someone I was in treatment with and we relapsed together after we finished our program. It took me another 2 years after rehab to end up in Vancouver with the very real threat of ending up homeless on hastings when I met a harm reduction doctor that suggested methadone. I haven't looked back and its taken a lot of work to be where I am. Constant therapy, dose management, you have to work up to having carries; meaning I had to go to the pharmacy every day for my dose and have clean random urine tests (I would say they test us at random once every 2 to 3 months and bc its Canada you dont need insurance). I now have a week of carries, which is the maximum allotted amount for a licensed methadone dr to prescribe for addiction, and I've had my weekly's for 5 years now meaning at the very least I see my pharmacist once a week, who knows why I'm taking methadone and is in contact with my clinic as to how they believe on a face to face basis I'm doing, which is amazing. Americans can say what they want about the Canadian system but if it wasn't for this amazing treatment I would be dead. I'm also so proud that the Alberta government where I am allocated funds to opiate addiction and was able to keep clinics open longer, hire more doctors, open 3 new clinics in my city and have 2 safe injection sites. This video was amazing and needs to be discussed so much more. All my love to anyone suffering out there.
So glad to read this. I volunteered for a school year at a Christian residential rehab facility (using the term "rehab facility" very loosely here) in Edmonton and was, frankly, very disturbed by their operation. To be blunt, what I saw was the substitution of drug addiction for fanatical religion. I have no idea what practical skills they were actually teaching the women to help them stay clean, but man, that injection of day in, day out religion cannot be healthy. I don't believe it's ethical to proselytize like that to vulnerable people, ever. I spent time volunteering on East Hastings with street ministries and came away with the same observations. I'm very grateful this country has coverage for actual evidence-based care, but I'm sad that these unqualified religious organizations are all too willing to take advantage of the shortage of bed spaces and treatment options.
I cried when he told us that the drug addiction specialist's son and the interviewee died. That caught me completely off guard. I'm breathing deep here. I lost friends myself to drug addiction and a drug-abuse related suicide and I can't listen to this without being directly touched. This was a hard episode for me.
I just got a bill from an outpatient rehab that I went to for a month or two 5 years ago, for $13,500. They billed my insurance company $1292 per test, but $420 to me. That's liquid gold.
Surprised he didn't mention the rehab in NC that was sending patients to work in nursing homes doing work they weren't qualified to do, where some were stealing meds etc, or screwing up patient care - big story, terrible. Also surprised he didn't talk about how often rehab is court mandated and people have zero choice about where they go
No kidding. When I was forced into rehab it was under threat of jail just like 90% of the rest of people there. Not necessarily because they're ready to get help, but because they had no option.
“The truth is that every addicted patient receives not as much rehab as he or she needs, but as much as he or she can afford.” - Olivier Ameisen, M.D. A man that cured himself of his alcoholism. His book called “The End of My Addiction” validates this information 100%. It is a hard book to read, but is is the most important book I have ever read.
@@bbbbbbb51 Yeah because that moralising, individualistic approach has worked so well. So well that one’s odds of dying of a substance use disorder or related condition are as high as they’ve ever been in most industrialised countries. /face palm
AA is a good place to start, if she hasn’t yet! Some AA members go to several groups to support their sobriety! Either way, it is a good idea to try out several groups to see where one feels more comfortable! You can also ask when u call up AA if they could send an experienced AA mentor to talk with her! Meanwhile, u could use help, also! ALANON, ( for families) , ACOA (Adult Children of Alcoholics) ! There are good books on the topic, also, at ur local library! The librarian can help u finding the support groups and resources! You need to recover, to heal, also, to learn how to cope with an alcoholic, do’s and don’ts! You need much support for yourself, irregardless if your Mom ever gets help!
I'm a Certified Advanced Alcohol and Drug Counselor (CAADC) in the State of Michigan, and I've got two important things to say on this: 1. Do not confuse the recovery process with the "Florida Shuffle" mentioned in the video. Relapse can be a part of recovery, but the Shuffle talked about here is more akin to the neglect given by the providers and the profiteering of the industry categorized here. Don't think that just because it takes a few times thru to get clean means that Rehabs aren't trying to help. 2. In addition to asking a doctor for a referral for inpatient, you should always try and consult agencies or professionals in the field. Usually rehabs with affiliations to larger hospital systems or agencies are best because they have accreditation standards to meet with oversight. Also, like John said, some rehabs might not be the best fit depending on how serious the patient is about getting help. Just know that even if you have the worst insurance on the planet, there is always a path to recovery is you know where to look and how to look for it.
chonchan there is Block Grant funding the Federal government gives to every state for SA treatment for just that situation. Plus with ACA mediciad plans are available that have coverage for residential treatment
chonchan as an American who isn't rich, I'm fucked regardless. However, the federally funded organization SAMHSA (Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration- www.samhsa.org 800-662-HELP) helps provide treatment options on a sliding scale basis to fellow Americans who are more fucked & also unable to get clean alone. Are there waiting lists? Yup. Is it a shitty, broken system? Resounding yes. ARE WE VOTING TO CHANGE IT? ... ... ... hello?
when I saw Belinda Carlise say " I used to do drugs" the first thing that popped in my mind was " I used to do drugs...... I still do. But I used to too." Mitch Hedburg
I am a recovering addict. Luckily I went to an awesome rehab. The process isn’t easy, you have to want it. I completed rehab in 2017 and still have weekly therapy. And I also live in a sober house in Philadelphia.
To be fair John, getting evidence/fact-based ANYTHING in this country is becoming a challenge. We seem to have developed a strained relationship with the truth and anything that isn't a sales pitch.
Kaija Schmauss Trump didn't start it. The regressive left was at it before him. Before the regressives were the neocons of the early 2000s. In the 80s and 90s it was a bipartisan effort to ban the scary new things that religious whackjobs were afraid of. I could go even further back, but I think I've made my point. Truth, logic, and sense has always been tangential to policy, not just in America but in every hall of power ever. Truth logic, and sense is just a little harder to come by today in this country than it has been in the last few decades.
As and addict of 8 years, 2 rehabs and 1 mental hospital I can truly say thank you, thank you for addressing the scam that is a “ rehab “ I started using drugs at 13 to deal with my father beating my mother and I. Luckily we got out of the situation but the scars still haunt me to this day. Luckily I found a doctor who cared about me, who put me on the right PTSD medication. Addiction is a never ending process, it eats you alive day after day. Nobody wakes up at 8 years old going “ oh I want to be a fucking drug addict “ ... people don’t understand that not everybody has a “great” up bringing. Some people need a crutch in life so they don’t go fucking crazy on you normal mother fuckers. My finally thought being, that every addict has his or her chance at starting a fresh new life, one without pain or misery, I hope for peace in all addict.
Young TrapLord23 someone who started doing drugs NOT because they're a piece of shit? You'd think people like that simply don't exist from a lot of comments.
Young TrapLord23 as a PTSD sufferer, I'd love to know what that drug is as my psychiatrist had me on everything until we both agreed my best option is not approved in the USA. But best of luck to you and peace forever.
I was prescribed 100mg of Zoloft, it helps with my flashback symptoms. I'm not saying its the perfect solution, I still experience flashbacks but not as severe with detail or how long they used to last. Everyone has different results, I used a lot of mind altering substances to " make me forget " and iv found Zoloft doesn't turn me into a "zombie" just goin through the day as other prescribed medications have in the past.
Were a rare bunch I guess, the stigma of being labeled an "addict" really stops people from seeing the bigger picture of mental health and living environments.
Maybe he got trolled with the Enumclaw Horse video Yknow, the video where a horse stuck its dick in a man and the man later died in the hostpial from.. i think its called a hemorrhage
I would advise others to always looks for a place that is run by a Clinical Psychologist and who has a dual diagnosis component (treats both drug dependency and mental health).
That is very important indeed. I would advise others to NOT use things that might land you in a state of dependency. I am a recovering butter pecan addict with a duel diagnosis of spontaneous intercourse with large breasted women. It took work but baby steps for the beginner.
Yep, it’s so important to go to people who actually know about mental health. That being said, I’ve been to an outpatient clinic for mental illness and that, like so many, was a shitshow where the psychiatrist saw me for literally five minutes one time and then prescribed me a drug that my current psychiatrist immediately took me off of.
Or not. The field of psychology as it exists today is pseudoscience, plain and simple. There's little replicability in the field and the testing methods can be so far removed from the tested hypothesis (yet still taken seriously) that without major changes or advancements, it can't and shouldn't be taken seriously. There is a real need for somebody who can cure mental health problems, but psychology as medicine is still in its leeching phase.
MrCalifornia1234 Agreed! And then get rid of the 12 steps! A.A., if you study it is a religion. Dual diagnosis is the best way to go along with c.b.t. and schema therapy.
Does America appreciate the value John Oliver brings them? It's a blessing that you guys have a person who puts out informative contents like this every week which is so helpful for the youth and the general public. To have discussions on topics that are relevent to all.
Milo, he is still on air, if Americans didn't like him, he would have been kicked to the curve like Piers Morgon. The thing is as an American I'll tell you. Americans hate hearing about politics we hear it every day how shitty how President is, how bad gun violence is, how the system is broken. Oliver comes approaches problems in a light hearted way, which is appericated due to how stressful life is in the states already.
I know that there's plenty of humans who consciously or subconsciously think that addicts are moral failures and that something like that would never happen to them or to a "good" person,I just wanna say it's not healthy to take morality for granted like that. Stuff like becoming mentally I'll or addicted etc can happen to anyone. And everyone in that position deserved empathy and help.
How true. Addiction affects all ages, all classes, all income levels, all races, all nationalities, all genders - all everyone. Indeed, the people who tend to develop the most severe addictions tend to be people at or near the top of the income distribution, since they have the most available cash to cultivate and maintain such a habit.
@I. Wynn Wynn personally, I don't think I have ever even entertained the idea of John Mulaney being an overrated, cocky, and ugly asshole. You trolling or something? :-)
I actually saw a Cliffside Malibu advertisement recently, and as someone who knows what dealing with alcoholism is like, my first reaction was, there should be a Last Week Tonight about this. Voila.
jennifer queen Don’t know about him or what being an addict might mean with regard to it, but I for one am just straight up cynical. Plus, pretty much all advertising nowadays has some element of legal-loophole-exploiting truth-shading to it.
Personally, I'm instantly suspicious of any rehab clinic that advertises. Advertising is expensive as hell. The only reason to do it is to try to attract new clients because you know you'll make more money on them than you spend on both the ads, and the cost of the treatment itself. Advertising means your goal is to make a profit, and profit, as has been demonstrated over and over again in the US, is a _toxic_ motivation for providing healthcare.
I had the same reaction to their ads.. anyone who claims to easily cure addiction is ridiculous and seems to at worst have a fundamental misunderstanding of how addiction and recovery works as it is a process which requires some level of constant vigilance and at worst is just telling patients and their families what they want to hear, promising a BS quick fix to a tragic problem that just doesn’t exist.. it takes work and honesty courage etc. if it worked that way the billions spent on it would reflect that those who have insurance get clean and are cured but the numbers and life experiences of people don’t reflect that at all.. this isn’t something you can throw money at. Don’t get me wrong I’m not disparaging families of addicts who spend their savings to try to help their loved ones... if anything thinking you are cured is a dangerous
Continued... thinking you’re cured is a dangerous mindset for most addicts IMO because it sets you up to maybe put yourself in dangerous positions like spending time with people who are still using because you feel like you have control of your addiction and get overconfident I’ve seen people say oh I can stop after one by one shot whatever because I learned these tools in rehab so I won’t get strung out again... see addiction makes you want to justify and rationalize stupid mistakes because your addiction wants to use it’s just that simple... and telling people this BS in rehab where they are so vulnerable and trying to get better and the fact that they even made it to rehab before their addiction led them to the morgue is such a crucial step... it’s harmful IMO it’s irresponsible it just sucks in short it’s wrong and shortsighted selfish and as someone that a family is trusting to save their kids or whoever’s life it’s doubly disgusting IMO. I’m not being melodramatic there look at the statistics I personally also know many many people who have died because of addiction and so the stakes really are just that high I don’t know if the cliff side Malibu douchebags realize that but dealing with addicts I think they must know and only care about the $ milking insurance... then there is the mental health industry and pharmaceutical companies... ugh 😑 privatized insurance obviously leads to the goal being the almighty dollar and not the health and well-being if your patients... I’m not saying it’s impossible to have s free market privatized healthcare system that works but might as well be seeing how things are now in the USA. That is A whole other can of worms that I don’t have time to discuss the nuances of here on TH-cam.. so cheers everyone if anyone reading this ishurting or knows someone who is be it from addiction or something else you are not alone feelings pass you are strong enough to get better if you’re willing to work for it you may not feel able to now but have some faith in whatever you feel you still can if there’s nothing you can believe in then maybe just try because you have nothing to lose anyway...you are strong enough but don’t rely on yourself alone your thinking got you to where you are today and your choices and some other stuff beyond your control like the addiction gene... ask for help and good luck to you remember you are not alone no matter how alone you may feel so many have dealt with the beast of addiction strangling them and stealing their life and dreams goals family freedom etc you can get better. Feel free to msg me if you need to talk or just someone to listen and not judge. I hope you are safe until you can get help chase a clean life like you chase a fix you know you can be determined for one so decide it’s a priority don’t worry about physical withdrawals to begin with just decide you are worth saving and don’t give up no matter how many obstacles might be in your path. You may not feel loved but you are still here despite whatever risks you took to use and you can get better. 😉 good luck 🍀👍🏻
Recovery rates for addicts going to rehab are around 30 - 33%. And that estimate is considered probably too high. At legitimate rehab centers. I have so many friends who have gone to Florida specifically for rehab and found out what John Oliver was saying the hard way.
Youre basically right, but thats only a temporary state i figure, when you look at written human history. People care about each other, countries dont. They care about their economic interest.
This is getting pretty old. So America looks dumb compared to other countries. Wow. How profound of you. America has only existed for a couple hundred years. Of course it is going through it's societal adolescence now. Countries that have existed for over a thousand years look at America as somehow different only because the atrocious events and policies of those countries are now in their distant past. They still happened, but because the current generation feels removed from those atrocities they feel like they have the right to criticize America. Basically they willfully ignore what their own ancestors did to smugly point their pious fingers at America. This is just the nature of societal maturation, of building civilizations of humans... crappy periods always precede more enlightened periods. New nations always go through a trial-and-error period because humans, in general, are dumb, superstitious, savage, paranoid, illogical, morons that don't learn from history. Take any European nation 250 years after its formation and compare it to America. It is pretty much the norm for societies to go through this. For example, Germany was founded in 962 AD. What was it like in Germany in the year 1200? Was it some bastion of beautiful enlightened harmony at that point in it's development? HARDLY. The Kingdom of Germany was basically the Christian version of ISIS during the Wendish Crusade. And lest we forget, Germany only ended the holocaust around 70 years ago. Now, who had a major role in ending the holocaust? OH YEAH: America. Germany was still under the rule of a homicidal, fascist, racist dictator less than 100 years ago. Italy, France, and other European nations had similar problems less than a century ago. Other European nations were in even worse shape (in terms of societal health) 250 years into their existence. The point is that regardless of the technological era, societal evolution goes through the same painful development. Judging America as if your nation is so awesome and pious is really just an exercise that lacks any introspection or depth.
Monk Killedababy I live in (South) Florida and *all* Floridians know Florida is fucked up.(We still have or least try to have a good and happy life though) I’m sorry people you knew were stuck in the Florida shuffle and it is sickening.
Yup, for a person fighting an addiction, losing their job is a great fear because they know they won't get another and may lead to living on the street if their family isn't willing to help or they're orphans. The stress of it could certainly make the addiction worse.
I honestly want to say ty to John Oliver for this episode. I'm going through an addiction myself right now and needed the truth about rehab. The website that Doctors are now certified to help you out is a plus. My physician doesn't even know what addiction is. That is sad. TY John.
tofolux Are you a salesman for a company that sells this? The entire thread is full of your comment, repeated and repeated and repeated. I think most of us understood the first time you wrote this!!
The Opinionist High Quality Opinions nope, do you see any links? I’m just super excited and really want to spread the word. There is a cure for addiction that works. I encourage people to learn about it themselves
I'm reporting you for commercial spam, seeing as you've posted this about a billion times under one video. If Ibogaine has any merit to it, then hopefully a doctor will recommend it to their patients and not some shady individual in a TH-cam comments section.
下佐粉ケイ Jesus Christ, I’m trying to help people! How is it spam? I simply give the name and encourage people to learn more for themselves. Because your a dick other people who might be saved are gonna get screwed. Well done.
I am in India and in a country like ours its even worse. People who run rehabs are only and only interested in milking the addict or their family for as much money as possible. As an addict (and even more important for the family of the addict) its important to understand that repeat customers and longer stays are good for their business!! Btw there are many Europeans and Americans who also come to India because they want to pay less for a stay in rehab, and I have seen many of them are taken for rides as well. Besides when you come to a completely different environment and get clean and go back to your world, you have even more difficulty coping. I personally know a couple of people who had this problem and didnt stay clean for long... edit : had no idea this comment would become so popular and would be seen by so many people. I just want to add something for anyone who is unfortunate enough to be going through addiction themselves or has a family member going through it. Different strokes work for different folks in recovery and while rehabs have no lasting benefit on the lives of a majority of addicts, there are people who DO benefit from stays in a rehab. I have seen many of those kinds of people as well who will go on to become counselors etc in the field themselves. You could be one of those people and if doctors, out patient "harm reduction" clinics etc haven't been able to help you then maybe you should give them a shot just be aware of what your getting into. Try to ascertain every little detail about where you plan to go (even more true for Indian rehabs and "spiritual healing centers" if you do come to India or are Indian like me) because a lot of them have misleading promotional websites etc that paint a completely different picture compared to the reality of the place...
This happens a lot in latin america too, they are called "informal" (obviously illegal) rehabilitation centers, only horrible stories come frome those places, yet poor people keep sending their loved ones but it's a fake hope, absolutely NONE work. If, as you say, europeans and north-americans bring their people for these, a reminder for anyone reading and considering doing that: don't believe any of these work in any kind of way.
Yes, and sadly these fraudulent institutions give a bad reputation to the legitimate counselors and clinics. I had worked in a de-add centre for a year , and many came in after they had been taken for a ride by so called 'specialists' . It becomes very important to check legitimacy.
I had a rock bottom moment and a serious conversation with my family about my drinking problem about 10 years ago. My mom looked up addiction treatment and the first question on the first call she made was about insurance. It was an out of state resort/treatment facility. I went to free AA meetings instead and stayed sober for over 6 years.
But then again, in this case, it adds to the problem where lives are technically in danger... The church they started had no danger involved... unless you count Oliver being exposed to stranger's "Seed"
On the one hand I want John to become more famous so he can spread his message but on the other hand I am genuinely worried about his personal safety. Companies and peoples as described in his videos will make sure of deleting anything and anyone who is shedding light on this huge pile of bs.
This could not be more accurate, unfortunately. I've worked in the addictions/mental health field for over 15 years and just recently decided to start my own practice. I cannot even begin to explain the atrocities I witnessed and experienced working for both the for-profit and non-profit agencies. These agencies are filled with unqualified, inexperienced, and uncredentialled staff. Not only were clients using and overdosing in these facilities, so were the staff!! And so many staff members practicing outside of their scope of practice. Not to mention, just because you have direct experience using drugs and alcohol does NOT mean you are qualified to treat this disease. When does it end?! And the general population has no clue what goes on behind closed doors in a rehab. It's no wonder the relapse rate is upwards of 70%.
Thank you for this. As an EMT in Ohio, heart of the opioid epidemic, and someone who has watched a friend cycle through rehabs until getting sober at her parents' farm (more goats than horses), and someone who worries about her own alcohol intake, I appreciate every bit of this. Many of my coworkers act like addiction is a choice and that people could get help if they wanted, but that's just something we tell ourselves to get through the day. I personally wish that I drank less than I do, and have considered some form of treatment, but the fact that I'm not a hardcore alcoholic and that all these places seem like expensive nonsense keep me away. Health care services in this country cost thousands of times more than they should, and are horribly sub-par. It's disgusting.
Diana Huntress thank you for sharing. I’m also in Ohio and lost a dear friend to an opioid overdose last year. I found him once (before he passed away) and had to call the paramedics. They behaved exactly as you described, even asking each other why they bother saving people who clearly don’t care about their lives. And I do get that point of view especially when you see the same person over and over again. Maybe you could share with your coworkers that that callousness is just another barrier to treatment. When people are in desperate need of help, it can be extremely off-putting to approach other medical professionals when they’ve already been treated like a waste of their time. It also opens the door for the kind of private rehabs in this episode to prey on them and their families under the guise of being a more “understanding/sympathetic” path to recovery.
Please read Chasing the Scream: The first and last days of the War on Drugs by J. Hari and then give it to your friend, you're welcome and keep up the good work!
Too much money on the wrong side of the issue ya know? I am sorry you have to see what you see, but I am glad you do it because it takes more courage and wit than I will ever have.
Rehabs scare me, I locked myself in a room for a couple months and it was like that scene from trainspotting. It's been almost a year, I don't know what the answer is it's been a huge battle and the sad part was getting sober was off of suboxone which is a "rehab" drug in itself. It can be helpful but if anyone is considering suboxone it is a very long withdrawal and the doctors that give it always say "You will be on this for life" which in my mind is bullshit because that's another form of addiction. I can't stress enough that addicts and people that care for addicts Cold Turkey withdrawals can and will kill people especially with Alcohol and Benzos like Xanax, even in rare Cases Opiate withdrawals. If you are caring for an addict, or are one yourself really try to step your doses down with the help of friends / therapy / support groups to get to the point where you want to be. It doesn't happen in months, or years but take it slow and avoid rehabs at all costs. And remember the problems you ran away from by taking the drugs are the ones that will still be there when you are sober getting rid of those problems is the hardest part about sobriety and if you don't then relapse is likely.
Addiction is messy and complicated. The brain, fearing withdrawal, would come up with anything to get a fix. When it has to make a choice, there is no moral ground, no fear of consequences; the list of priorities is simple: get high, then everything else. It takes time and lots of patience and dedication to solve this complicated twisted issue. So yes, it is life and death, not some losers to suck out money from. It could have been anyone of us in their position, which should increase our empathy for them, and really try to help them. Worst part - won’t always work, but we should keep trying.
Savva Lakichevich Perhaps the, term, "addiction" is too broad. It's more of an obsessive-compulsive disorder. Perhaps if our government continues deficit war spending, we'll never understand how our economy keeps throwing swafts of ASMR like google playstore and facebook (and TH-cam) as distractions from reasonable understanding. That's right, I'm calling, "addiction" a myth. It would take a college education and then some, to prove me wrong.
The term addiction isn't too broad. addiction is a loss of control over time, place and quantity. It can be for anything food, sex, drugs. As long as you are unable to control the time, place and quantity you are addicted
I'm glad I live in Europe. It may not be perfect (nothing really is) but at the very least things don't seem to be as maniacally profit-driven as in the US. this is indeed fucking crazy
João Pedro Tomás same, in Portugal we decriminalized drugs and instead of punishment we help them with state funded rehab and therapy. Wish the US would put it's people before corporate entities but to the average citizen money/free market is more important than human life and compassion.
To the both of you, thanks for compassion. So many die from easily treated diseases, may be why they use drugs. To escape the hopelessness of for profit driven system. I have attended so many funerals of overdose victims, too many.
I wonder exactly if they really think it through about money. Because in Portugal, our programs allowed heroine usage to drop from 21% to 0.2% since decriminalisation and needle exchange programs started. That means that we have a boatload of productive citizens that started working, paying taxes, instead of robbing or begging on the street. In terms of money spent by state, it dropped, it lot, because of what was saved by not having these people committing crimes, being arrested, court expenses, vandalism damage, etc, etc. But in terms of money recovered and put into circulation, I think that quality of life and respect for the individual can be paired with economical success, for everyone's benefit. It just takes a little while longer.
Soraya Imperial Good old USA, land of the free with highest prison population. Those in charge(and church)have not figured out crime rate is related to poverty and drug use. They have enough money for gated property and/or private security. Another reason so many citizens carry guns☹
If I were clinically depressed and resorting to extreme drugs and alcohol, I'm not sure I'd want to stay at a place called ... CLIFFSIDE - Malibu or no Malibu.
I wish there were a show like this in India! So many critical issues so easily influenced and manipulated by a few individuals. The truth the absolute truth is the best.
As someone who’s been to 12+ rehabs (not including detoxes sober houses or hospitalizations) and is now 7+ years clean from heroin after a decade long battle of ups and downs and am aware that it’s still something I have to be continually mindful of, gratitude and other things as well as medicine assisted treatment which is far more backed by science and the growing understanding of dependency and addiction and recovery. I’ve been to rehabs that were horrible and I’ve been to the very rehab that started equine therapy in Utah, I’ve been in rehabs with famous people in the Caribbean, I’ve been to rehab with prisoners at the Salvation Army and other free programs and others that are very high end and expensive, thankfully Insurance covered much of it, and thankfully I’ have my life and am so grateful to have been clean and gotten out of using junk right when the fentanyl thing was starting and it was getting into places it shouldn’t. So many people I once knew are no longer living because of their addictions or alcoholism or cross addictions, and I’ve learned a lot about the industry of recovery and rehabs than I’d like and this was very enlightening. We must fight for the rights and liberty of those struggling with addiction and to create better regulations and safeguards for humans, their health care and mental wellness.
I started having serious migraine headaches while in the Navy. They tried for 4 years to find a cause or cure, with no luck. They ended up just prescribing me Vicodin to take as needed. Huge mistake. Took just a couple of months until I was addicted. I was in San Diego so when I ran out of pills too early to refill, I hopped across the border and bought a few hundred more. A lady friend of mine came back from Tucson with some cocaine one weekend. I started doing coke with her every Friday night, and pills the rest of the week. Navy finally medically discharged me, handed me a check for $45k and sent me off to the VA. Since I had moved too far from San Diego to jump the border, they kindly would take my order by phone and FedEx me a bag of pills for $1,200 at a time. I also increased my coke use to 5-6 nights a week. I blew that entire $45k check in less than a year. I had met a girl online, we fell in love and she moved in the day I ran out of coke and pills. She helped me get clean but it was one of the worst experiences ever. For 2 whole months I did nothing but vomit, sweat, and sometimes shit myself on a futon in the living room, all while shaking like I was freezing to death. I dropped from almost 300lbs to 173lbs in the first 6 months of leaving the Navy. I refused to sleep with her until I was over the withdrawals. I know in my heart that if she hadn't shown up, I would be dead right now. It's kinda ironic now that while I've never touched coke since, the few times I've attempted to take a narcotic painkiller, my body immediately and violent begins to vomit it back up.
This woman sounds like a saint. I am glad she helped you survive and you managed to stick it out during this horrible sounding time of your life. Congrats on getting clean!!
Thank you so much for this. I worked in treatment for over 10 years and had to eventually leave out of disgust for how exploitive and corrupt it has become. Getting sober does not cost $30 - 100k.
3:13 this quote hit me really hard... about a month ago I lost my uncle in south Florida. He moved there to help with his drug addiction but it became worse, starting doing crack , stealing from stores, he even got thrown out of a car at one point by someone else on drugs. He was never actually able to get treatment and just ended up dying in his 50s.
Congrats! I also think it's probably at least a better sign that your facility was pretty honest about it than if they claimed 80% of the people that came in were cured.
Was wondering if that's one he's recommended. Maybe they've been taken over by a new group? He's only started sending them there recently, hasn't he? Strange..
Dr. Phil is a quack. I once admired him until I checked sources about things he said. He's not honest, misleads and misinforms people. Sad, but true. He wasn't like this when his show first started but has devolved.
A close friend of mine, and brother to one of my best friends died from opiate abuse a few years ago. I've been struggling with a drinking problem, but after going to an AMAZING detox center in Massachusetts, and working with an in-home daily recovery team, it's really made all the difference. It's important to do research and find what will be right for you. The best part about most of the legit places, is that if you think they aren't helping, or are making you worse, you're free to leave, no questions asked.
I’m a heroin addict who would very much like to be clean, but in my experience and the experience of many people I’ve known, the hardest part is finding the time to properly deal with it. Life doesn’t stand still while you sort your shit out, I’m flat broke, and in order for me to fully withdrawal alone would take 3 weeks. If I didn’t work for three weeks, I’d starve. I always tell my girlfriend “it seems like neither of us ever get a break”. This seems to me to be the biggest obstacle in any addicts beginning recovery, and I really don’t know what to do about it.
If you have no money you can get emergency SNAP (food stamps) benefits on short notice in the USA although exact rules vary state to state. I know it's not that simple that that's an amazing answer but. If it's life or death there are things one can do.
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Addiction is hard. Getting clean is hard. Staying clean is hard... getting help should be easy. Never a truer word spoken. Thank you Mr Oliver
Detox is tough. 30+ days in rehab is tougher. Staying clean is the toughest part.
@Anna Alfieri What's an ED if I may ask?
@@atheisticallyyours1600 girl go to hell lmao
@Anna Alfieri Its been some time but I hope you’re doing well! even if you stumbled it happens and you’re no lesser for it 💕 wishing you good health both mentally and physically
@@atheisticallyyours1600 this may be the case for some people, but others actually have physical symptoms that are alleviated by continued use of whatever they are addicted to or they don't know of any other way to cope with whatever may have caused them to use it in the first place. Not everything is as simple as how you make it sound. It does help a lot if somebody is commited to not using something anymore, but not everyone can stop cold on short notice.
This segment totally educated me and my adult daughter about rampant problems in this industry. We watched this show many times and used it to "vet" potential recovery centers. Aetna sent a list of 154 in-network providers; all but three failed our litmus test. My daughter researched yelp and google reviews, even facebook reviews. It was eye-opening. I thank John Oliver from the bottom of my heart for this information. It took three months for my daughter to get a bed in a recovery center that IS a great rehab center (Montecatini in San Diego). Your rehab section kept us away from the predators.
Do you mind sharing the litmus test qualifications that you used? I’m interested in doing this!!
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Yes, please share your litmus test! I almost signed up for one this morning, but something kept telling me to re-watch this episode and I am so glad I did.
I hope your daughter is doing better now
My son was in a Military Veterans establishment in Los Angeles. I am not sure how much they did to help him. I went to visit him there a couple of times. It was not particularly clean, rather dingy and depressing. Guess I would not expect it to be all that "cheerful" but it was so dingy, and the couch in the waiting room was literally ripped. So sad. Glad you found a good place.
I was on meth for 8 yrs, heroin for 6 yrs and I just passed my 500th day being TOTALLY CLEAN last week!
... and I did it WITH NO REHAB!
Congrats on your sobriety, man!
Congrats on your sobriety man. Every day is another victory. It is possible but rare to get clean without going to rehab, but as someone who tried (and failed) to get clean on my own several times and then finally went to a real rehab and learned the skills, tools, and lessons about staying clean, I was finally able to stay sober. It's been 2 months shy of 8 years for me now.
So congrats on your sobriety, but so many people need to truly learn how to stay clean. The failure rate for even those going to rehab is like 70%, and I imagine the failure rate for people without rehab is much, much higher.
So TL;DR congrats to you and your sobriety but rehab (an actual good, accredited rehab, with actual doctors and medical personnel) can save your life. And I say that from years of experience.
Faithfully? I've been an addict more years than I've been sober and I'm afraid you lost me there. Like heroin only? Or devoted to your daily fix? Or what? Just curious not trying to upset you. Congrats on your sobriety.
@@Deimoclese I think they meant "regularly" as in heavy usage
It's been a year and I hope you passed your 872th day. If you did congratulations
I developed an Adderall addiction in college. I told my father, who used to be an alcoholic, that I should go to a rehab clinic to get clean. He said to me, "Those places are scams; talk to a drug councilor, and then go to AA or NA instead." Looking back on it, I'm glad I took his advice."
The fact that your dad or you thinks he "used to" be an alcoholic and that he recommended a "therapy" system who refuses to report their success statistics because they're so bad....
Do what you gotta do and I'm glad you're sober, but AA and NA are notoriously shit.
AA and NA are scams too.
Where you at 2 years later? Asking from an addict.
@@mnschoen not sure about your experience, but my grandfather just got his 40 year chip from AA. no clue about how NA works though. seems like it just might not be a good fit for everyone, but don't knock it til you try it :)
Maybe your dad should‘ve given you the advice to not take drugs in the first place.
What the fuck is it with american and get addicted?? Get some grip, you losers.
"Getting sober is hard, but nothing is harder than an 8 minute phone call with another human being"
2 years clean of heroin and truer words have never been spoken
Good on you ☺️👍.
Me too! And yeah the phone... I have to make a doctor appointment but I would have to talk to someone to make the appointment so....
Congrats on your two years, I'm almost 90 days clean from xanax. I went "One and Done" as they say and I can say with certainty that I did this completely by myself. The Rehab I went to claimed to have evidence based treatment, but only did CBT and DBT which in most cases are not very effective. Needless to say, I pretty much got scared straight talking to the other patients who'd been in rehab multiple times and lost many friends. And that's really all it took for me.
Congratulations! 😁
I'm sure the withdrawal was harder.
As funny as this show is, John Oliver will ALWAYS show the harsh reality of the world that we live in. I love this dude
Sarkastik Leader right? Love this man. He can make light of everything and then the next moment show you everything horrible with a situation. He is great at what he does.
Or rather the harsh reality of the US some people are unfortunate enough to live in...
wesleysull true. That’s like that with any source of news.
ALL of my favorite artists and comedians, from the ancient ones until now, do this and do it well and originally. They are the true role models, not our alleged "leaders" and wealthy businessmen.
I guess it is too soon to rehash that old dead horse of a joke where I specify that I used to be addicted to soap but that I am clean now right? Sorry. Forget I said anything.
I can't thank you enough for making your main stories available to the public via youtube. I know Oliver claims to just be in it for the laughs, but your program with it's wonderful researchers and writers make for a shockingly good news outlet. Never stop. All these insights help people live better lives and strive for a better future.
I feel the same way about John Oliver. He's amazingly knowledgeable his deliverery can't be beat We learn so much from him, watch him constantly. Really thankful for the access to his show.
As someone who went to multiple rehabs and failed every time, I can concur...rehabs are a joke. I ultimately got clean by doing it myself, which was insanely hard and I’m lucky I didn’t die in detox, but I had no other choice. I was definitely going to die if I didn’t do something. I just hit my 3 year anniversary.
Congratulations. That is a wonderful milestone! I’m sorry you did it yourself, but I’m so glad you did it. Much love and respect to you. ❤️
Congrats on doing so! It takes a huge amount of courage to change and do it with help. I cannot imagine what it would meant do it by yourself.
Congratulations on your 3 years! 💯🙏
For my brother it took a SERIOUS rehab for a year or prison. You start and end sleeping with the homeless and it actually worked. Sadly they are overwhelmed and need to expand.
Alicia I just wanted to give you a hug after I read your last sentence! That is amazing, and to have done it on your own, seriously! You have my sincerest respect!
"Nothing is harder than an eight minute phone call with another human being."
As an introvert, truer words have never been spoken.
It truly is the realest nightmare there is
Aw, crap. This statement resonated with me more than I wanted it to.
Try going to an hairdresser when you're feeling suicidal & being asked; "What you doing after this?/at the weekend?", or being asked by a taxi driver what you do for a living when you're too ill to work (bipolar & chronic pain.) Even an "How are you?" from someone you know makes you wonder where a sinkhole is when you need 1✌🏻😓
Try binaurals amigos, they help restore us to a peaceful state without human interaction😊
Much Love x
Psychkemia agreed
Psychkemia nah. I am a total introvert but after staying on bed for more than 5 months and not walking due to a knee injury, I’d love to talk to someone for more than 8 hours. You get lonely.
As a professional in this field, I’m giving this a standing ovation
I think that this issue of addiction is the ultimate challenge. I hate drugs, cigarettes and alcohol but food is my Achilles heel. I sometimes feel like going into a rehab center but after this video I think it's not really an option anymore.
@@ricardomurillo5205 You can send the money to me, it'll be about as effective. Also, I need money.
@@bigron8896 Probably even more efective because you won't waste my time;-)
Aeyhuaska cures 99.5% addiction cases with a single treatment.
@@unitedspacepirates9075 About as effective as Equine therapy!
I am a recovering heroin addict, 2 years clean and sober. There is not such think as a cure in a standard sense. It is a lifetime of work. I am good today and that is what matters.
William Olsen look into IBOGAINE for addiction. I can personally vouch it works. Good luck
Proud of you
So glad you're off that stuff. Good job and keep it up, man!
Thank you guys appreciate it.
Good job man. I worked as a counselor at a rehab place and while it paid very little, it was very rewarding when I would see a former client out in the community working and living a better life. Wish the best for you.
I recently watched Bojack Horseman, and the Pastiches Centre really reminded me of this, a revolving door centre of sketchy practices not based in evidence, run by "Doctor Champ", who is not a Dr but is simply named "Doctor", and repeatedly stresses that he is not a therapist but a therapy horse held to no standards. It's excellently done.
wow this is exactly what i thought of! the creators of that show really thought everything through
bojack is relatable to all of those struggling or in recovery, this real asf
Same here! It really was a very powerful show, especially Bojack’s treatment and recovery arc.
0:16 "to drugs or alcohol" I just love how our society separates "drugs" and "alcohol" because of how socially accepted alcohol is, yet it is just as much destructive as other drugs
Andrew Zhoe the term drugs is predominantly used for illegal drugs
A beer can't kill you, a syringe of heroin can.
It takes years of abuse for alcohol to kill you, not to forget it doesn't automatically lead to addiction. Those are big differences that justify alcohol and drugs being separated.
While many things about alcohol are positive in comparison to other drugs, there is one very negative thing about alcohol. It kills brain cells. A drugs addict that recovers will get his/her full use of her brain again. An alcohol addict is drinking him- or herself stupid. Your brain does not recover from the lose of brain cells.
L'impie Ever hear of alcohol poisoning? If your system isn't accustomed to alcohol, your chances of dying from it are much higher. And I've tried heroin, no immediate addiction. It didnt kill me.
I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
L'impie Also, it's competely unfair to compare beer to heroin when much stronger alcohol is available. You had a better chance at a valid argument if you used everclear or moonshine in comparison to drugs.
this guy and his writers do such a good job, week after week, it's amazing.
I personally know multiple people who had a heroin addiction(Netherlands). They got a different medicine(methadone, buprenorfin) to replace heroin for a while, after that they got the care they needed to quit the medicine too(which is easier). Most of them are having a normal life, kids, work...
Methadon is free in the Netherlands, addicts who want to quit can get treatment. All the treatment is free, even if you are not insured.
after that they got the care they needed to quit the medicine" This is the part I do not see ever happening here in the Us anytime soon. Healthcare for anything long term is a joke
As a citizen of The Netherlands, it's pretty much impossible to be uninsured.
I live in North Carolina. I had to spend 4 hours calling multiple 1-800 #'s within my insurance company. It took 4 or 5 calls to different numbers to finally get someone to talk to me who could help me (Blue Cross Blue Shield Insurance company). I was literally saying "I'm addicted to opiates and I need to find a doctor who can help me get treatment". I couldn't believe how long it took to find someone who could help me. I told them exactly what health plan I had with them and it took hours for the lady who finally helped me to give me literally 3 doctors names and phone numbers who could potentially help me that were covered under my health plan. God bless that lady and her patience for helping me. So I call those 3 numbers and one ended up being a pediatrician (obviously couldn't help me I'm in my 20's). The second number ended up not providing opioid treatment. And thank god the third number was a doctor who could help me. Bad news was that my first appointment got set for 2.5 weeks away. I could have died in that time frame. Finally, 2.5 long weeks later I went to my first appointment. $400 out of pocket (I have a $1500/annual deductible). I got a Buprenorphine medication right then and there thank God. But I had to pay $200 out of pocket every two weeks just to get another prescription until I finally hit my $1500 deductible. I only had to pay $30 a visit after that. But let me tell you, this whole process was way too difficult and expensive. I can see why people don't even try to get help because it's so difficult to find real help here in the USA from my experience.
I felt the need to make a comment about the maintenance drugs being “easier” to quit. This is untrue.
I and several people I know are stuck on bupe. I am on 2-3mgs a day and am not in active addiction anymore yet I am still addicted (physically) to this drug. I ran out for 11 day earlier this year and it was hellish. Way worse than my iv heroin cold turkey attempts. Way. Worse.
But.. If used “correctly” it’s very helpful. And by “correctly” I mean no more than a 30 day taper.
@@CasparSG And in Germany, you need insurance for your insurance, so that you know that you're always insured.
Germans are controllfreaks with lovely Pretzels and a very fascinating harsh language.
As an addict who feels he's losing to this struggle, this is so goddamn terrifying. Thank you John Oliver. May others be saved.
don't give up and don't fight alone. people care if you live or die
Yo how you doing man?
Take it one day at a time. You’re not alone.
I hope you’re doing better these days. There is always hope, even if it doesn’t seem so.
Hey babe, I know it's hard. We're out here and we care. Hope you're safe
John Oliver: The guy who talks about subjects you initially don't know or care about, but by the end realize their importance and feel bad for learning about the problems yet want to find a solution.
Jesse Torres that “feeling bad” part is what makes you a decent person.
SJ is also what makes you a left winger. Being able to empathize
Alex Cuellar Empathy is a non political thing. Want a hug?
And the fact you've never helped any of these issues makes you a lazy a-hole. (I am too, just calling a spade a spade)
Waffles The Wookie nope bullshit my man. Liberals look at fucked up shit and go "damm how can we make sure people do not have to go through this crap ".
Conservatives mostly go " well fuck it ain't me I'm doing fine
Thank you for this, John! My cousin’s son died from an overdose in 2009 and his Mom will forever have a hole in her heart!
Debbie Gross was she shot?
American society glorifies drug addicts like The Weeknd and drug-fueled clubs like fraternities and sororities, and ostracizes people as "uncool" if they don't participate in drinking and doing drugs. And then they wonder why so many addicts exist.
Most fraternities and sororities which are not based on a particular field, have at least one resident dealer, who has weed, cocaine, etc...Decades ago, while delivering pizza to a social fraternity at the University of Michigan, I accidentally walked in to their coke party....
Ian Goodman Drugs and heavy usage of them have been around a lot longer than fraternities and this culture that "glorifies drug usage". Could it be that altering your state of mind and the biologically addictive properties of these substances are inherent to the human condition and not just some problem we can collectively blame others for? Come on man. I don't know anyone past the age of 25 who thinks drug addiction is cool. I don't see know any adults who idolise alcoholics for their alcoholism. I'm sure culture has a role, but drug usage and addiction transcends cultures and time. What was the heavy use of amphetamines and opiates attributed to in the early 20th century, and why has the huge cultural backlash against the hazards of alcohol, opiates, tobacco, etc not created an equal shift away from drug usage if culture really plays such a significant role?
+Ian Goodman Exactly. I wouldn't say it makes me uncool. I just don't want to end up brain dead.
You know who should be treating addiction? Doctors. A team of doctors. Licensed doctors. And psychiatrists should be in there too, obviously. Rehab facilities should not just be opened by anyone, and they should be regulated. And data should be collected and analysed regularly by scientists to see the trajectory.
Yvonne Wabai Yeah harm reduction is a better and cheaper way of handling addicts. Just look at Switzerland.
And Portugal also did a good job by decriminalising all drugs. This should be the focus. Not a hard-line and inefficient drug policy.
th-cam.com/play/PLnRJvghVvf5ziaVkqQST4OpZ9UtsW1GwU.html
You think doctors arent just as cash hungry? If you live in the us you know doctors are mostly idiots shilling products sold to them by pharma companies.
noooo, no more regulation- don't be a fool- it's up to the client to choose what's right for them- government regulation (for the most part) doesn't end well.
If they're paying for it by themselves, then they can be free to choose what they're using. If they want to use insurance money, they should use what has proven to work.
No regulation means I could be the guy that is organizing your rehab - some clueless dude from youtube whose qualification is that he watched an episode of John Oliver on how to suck insurances dry using piss.
Absolutely! My wife is a pharmacist in a facility like that. And sadly our county is the only one in Ohio, I believe it's he only one, that funds these facilities.
After my first stationary therapy (12 months) I received a call of a social worker who asked to visit me for inquiry. They did a study about how people who underwent longterm therapy were doing, to gauge the success rate. Now she visited me 22 months after therapy and I was 100% sober. 3 months later I relapsed, so in the said study I'm listed in the success group. Serious studies should be done 5 yrs after treatment, then they might actually reflect partly the reality.
Claiming you're cured is a HUGE red flag about that rehab's credibility
Agreed. I relapsed 4 times and went to 4 inpatient rehabs and 2 outpatient rehabs before I got my shit together. Now I have over 4 years. Do you know what honestly made the difference? Well, 3 things actually. 1. I stopped going to AA and replaced it with SOS which is much less culty. 2. I started taking suboxone. 3. I stopped being wrapped up in what other people thought of me. I spent my entire life trying to be who I thought other people wanted me to be, to the detriment of my own sense of self.
But even now, I'm not cured. I am abstinent from drugs and thus this condition is being managed. But I'll never stop being an addict. If I stop managing my condition, I am likely to relapse
John missed a few things btw. I wrote an article about this issue several years ago. I reblogged it on Tumblr if anyone is interested. I found mob ties for some of the owner of some of these south florida rehab organizations and uncovered a number of shady business practices to boot. My post is a bit long but impeccably researched with screenshots and everything. www.tumblr.com/blog/skepticraven
@@D_skeptic hey Dana, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm currently trying to get and stay clean & sober as well. What exactly is this "SOS" you mentioned? The extreme culty-ness of AA/NA is putting me off, so I'd love another option ..
@@chipskylark5500
P.S. I should probably add to my last comment that there are also LifeRing Secular Recovery meetings which are similar to SOS from what I've heard. And SMART Recovery Meetings are kind of like free group therapy and there is generally a licensed therapist running the group. If you feel like AA/NA isn't working for you, its probably time to try something else.
@@D_skeptic thank you so much for this information Dana, I really appreciate you going out of your way to help me out like this. Your blogpost was also extremely interesting and well researched!
This is definitely the first time I've wanted to cry over a video from last week Tonight. My mother died from addiction and she never got the help she needed.
Devil Sephiroth I am very sorry for your loss. My heart hurts for you.
Susie, I hope they catch your heart before anybody else gets harmed.
My condolences to you. So tragic.
Donny Rickles Jr. That was so funny- like, holy shit, i am slapping my knee right now.
Devil Sephiroth, my heart goes out to you. Sending up a quick prayer for you to have comfort.
I was really sad to hear that the funny horse guy died....... I laughed so hard the way he said "man i don't even like horses".
Dude me too I felt like I was watching Infinity War again.
RIP Horse Guy. He seemed so real and down to Earth..... :(
That hit me in the heart when he said that. R.I.P funny horse guy.
Aww that's sad. I haven't gotten to that portion yet. That's awful.
My question was, what did he die of, if it was of something unrelated to drug use then the only reason to mention that fact is to score points with the audience.
"Tons of life changing things happen at the Four Seasons..."
Hotel or Landscaping?
Well for the one dye-sweating vampire who shall remain nameless, it's the latter.
I was surprisingly let down that they missed this punchline.
My expectations were so high, and then we just moved forward faking that this was the punchline we wanted all along.
@@Dustinson
This episode is from 2018, the Four Seasons Landscaping incident wasn't until the 2020 election
@@Dustinson This episode predates the 4 Seasons Landscaping debacle by two years. They couldn't have made a joke about it at the time. Though it's fun to imagine all of the things they could have said since we are here looking back on it.
Which one has weird black dyes?
I know this is a bit different, but as someone who was forced to go to an eating disorder rehab as a kid, they seriously need to have more regulations and standards.
I wasn’t allowed to go outside for over two weeks, and I only did eventually get to go outside because I broke out the front door. They only had about a week or so’s worth of activities and exercises and the exact same materials and grainy TH-cam videos would loop over and over again. They’d often go through the same packet two days in a row. If you had any complaints whatsoever, whether it was “I don’t remember what sunlight on my skin feels like anymore” or “this is the third time we’ve watched this TH-cam video this week and it’s an hour long”, they’d ask you to go and distract yourself with a frozen orange or some silly putty. Most of your day was spent doing absolutely nothing for hours on end confined inside of a tiny living-room because they only allowed you to play board games for 60 minutes a day even if there wasn’t anything planned for 4 hours at a time. When I came back from rehab, I continued all the behaviors I had from before, except for I was even more careful to be secretive about it and my dad had given the rehab $72,000 out of my college savings which, by the way, was basically all of my college savings.
This shit needs to fucking change.
下佐粉ケイ Holy shit. That kind of a nightmare scenario is exactly why I hid my issues. If the alternative is forceful treatment that makes you suffer and anxious and isn't planned for your needs anyway and basically wrecks the planned future then I'd rather continue on my own.
Sorry to hear you had to go through it, hope you're doing better regardless.
What are you supposed to do with a frozen orange?
That is... horrifying. That should be unacceptable for a free public healthcare service, and the fact that you paid your college education's worth of money for it either breaks my heart or makes my blood boil, I can't quite tell yet.
Blake F it’s supposed to soothe you, help you focus on the cold instead of any emotion
Blake F That’s what I wanted to know! But honestly, I think the idea was that it was supposed to be that since a lot of the other clients had rubber bands they snapped against their wrists when they had urges, I guess gripping the freezing orange was supposed to be a less harmful way of hurting yourself.
So in a truly fitting piece of American Irony, our rehab system needs to be rehabilitated.
Rehabception
Technically that’s coincidence, not irony, but yeah haha
John Oliver is doing a great public service with these informative, entertaining, and above all, critical looks at things that are happening. This is basically what the skeptical community is about, and what scientific skeptics around the world have been doing for a long time. John Oliver just has a far bigger platform to do it from than pretty much anybody else. And he does it so well too.
There are many brilliant skeptics doing essentially investigative journalism into many scams, and trying to educate people, to immunize them against scammers, but too often they play to too small crowds, mostly comprised of people who already have a good critical outlook, and at least a decent knowledge base in the basics of critical thinking. John Oliver gets the message out to a lot of people who would likely never find the skeptical communities, or be interested enough to look into what they are about.
And sad thing is that nothing is changing or has changed. So many topics he discussed where u see how fucked up the system and the politicians are and nobody gives a fuck. It just continues...
When I watched this video two years ago I had no idea I would be losing my little brother to drug addiction a year and a half later. Man.. this video hits home today.
♥️
There's also still a big social risk to going to rehab. I had one friend not go to rehab for alcoholism (perfectly legal, of course) because she was getting a security clearance and that might have impacted her eligibility. I went to a (normal) therapist at Kaiser Permanente and was halfway through the first time patient questionnaire when I realized the questions were getting oddly specific about drug use. I brought the clipboard back up to the front and told her I just needed a regular counseling session, and her eyes got huge and she was like "OMG I'm so sorry! I'm going to have to delete your appointment and re-enter it in the system. You do NOT want addiction therapy on your record." Part of me was like "oh I'm glad I noticed," but also, wtf? If institutions view seeking help for substance abuse issues as a negative thing, stigmatizing it, they discourage people from recovering.
wow, that is eye opening
One of the reasons I was afraid of getting sober long after I knew it was a problem was because of the way people would view me both as an employee and a person. I live in Texas where alcoholism is damn near mandatory for citizenship, and even mentioning that I had gone to an AA meeting caused people to look at me like "What's wrong with that guy?" Then a little over a year ago, I finally had to pull the trigger and go completely clean. I'm better off for it even with having to deal with a certain amount of stand-offish people (including one person who actually told me if I can't handle alcohol and have to quit completely, that's a sign of weakness). I sucks that my social life is now basically over, but I had to make a choice, and I know I made the right one.
Felt punched in the gut when he said they guy who didn’t like horses died 😣😣
John Oliver and the people that work with him are real life superheroes, using powers the rest of us can barely comprehend to shine light into the darker reaches of our society. As a proud American, I call this show a National Treasure, and I hope we all become a little bit better for having it. Thanks John
spot on!!
straightforward, truthful ,and refreshing
"And the tragedy is his son died... and remember the funny guy who hated horses? He died too..." gave me chills.
I am so disappointed that John never called out excessive urine testing as LITERALLY TAKING THE PISS
Lol! True, true!
Missed opportunity right there.
So true the treatment center I went to I had to do them 3 times a week and the tests alone where tens of thousands of dollars on my bill.
spooky mollz WHAT?! HOW MUCH?
It's an American show. American's wouldn't get the joke. He could have actually done a joke like that and it fell flat and was edited out. In America "taking the piss" is just a weird way to say "taking a piss". But yes, it would have been funny to some of us.
Yes!!! A doctor who is board certified in addictions medicine!!! That starting point saved my life. I passed 3 years in January. Spot on indeed!
You shouldn’t be a doctor, I’m ashamed of the medical system now that you’re in it. You should know better than this. Yes changes need to be made, but everything in medicine does, and you should know better, you should be ashamed, you know why?
You know damn well it’s dangerous to stop certain things without medical supervision, people can actually die.
@@patricia8254 I’m pretty sure they meant that when getting sober, the most important thing was starting by finding a doctor that was certified in addiction medicine. Not that they’re a doctor.
@@TheMaddestHatter234 Even if you go to a doctor; some people need to be monitored, which is more than they usually can at a hospital, it costs too much to just treat addiction in them, and mental hospitals are just as bad.
Monitoring in certain people for more than a week is necessary, coming off a substance is shocking to the body, and uncomfortable, so rehabs serve a propuse, more regulation and over head is needed to improve them.
John Oliver and his little team aren’t the best and their message has a lack of insight, as do other segments.
@@patricia8254 I feel that you may have misunderstood my point- I meant that when looking for a rehab center, the first resource one should go to is to a doctor who is board certified in addiction medicine, that doctor will know which rehab places are good and which are not. In the same way that if you were looking for a book, you'd go to a librarian. The librarian isn't the same as the book, but due to their job they can find you the right one.
The thing which makes Oliver's show instantly likeable for me is the way he addresses critical issues with such a biting wit!
Thanks John, now please stop making fake accounts to comment your own videos.
Aditya - absolutely! And he is not only joking about things, he is working with them, like when he did the interview with not-Assange 😁
I can not get enough of his quick, snarky, wit. Love him.
Not only that, but after he's done complaining he always poses or describes a solution in the end.
Yeah, well, it would be cool if he realized that his critiques, the premises of most of his long segments, are only addressing symptoms of the primary problem infecting our culture: the capitalist economic system, its corresponding paradigms and therefore its negative impact on our values (more more more ... profits).
It's convinced all of us that the only way people will be innovative is if there is competition and a monetary incentive to do so. As long as a system driven by profits is in place, people and societies will be exploited & manipulated & decimated(like with the pharmaceutical industry - WE are its longitudinal test subjects since long-term studies are not required for a new drug to be released. The drug is released onto society, immense profits are made from that drug, long-term public health impacts occur after immense profits, mass tort claims are filed and happily and handily paid off by those profits. Hey, your baby had congenital birth defects from zoloft, hey you got diabetes from atypical antipsychotics ... sorry ... but no problem judge, the 2 billion in mass tort claims is a mere 10% profits from 1 drug in our entire portfolio) so as to make as much possible.
This is our culture. This is why rehabs proliferate. This is why the planet is being fucked up, etc etc etc
It's time for capitalism to end, people.
My son has been 8 times. John is right. Most rehabs do not know wtf they are doing. The situation is even worst for under 18 folks. Panicked and desperate parents are easy pickings for these corrupt outfits. My ex wife was thrilled to send my son to an equine therapy bullshit place. It partly explains why she is my ex. Thank you John. Always informative, always relevant and always entertaining. You are a national treasure.
💙 all love to you brother. I hope things are going well.
"Inadvertent wilderness therapy" - as a search and rescue volunteer, I'm stealing that.
John Oliver should do a segment on Residential Treatment Centers for struggling adolescents, I’m in one and I think that people should know more about them in a light hearted way, and I think it is so important
Or look up life challenge, it's nationwide. You live there for free for a year, good donated food but...and here's a big but, you are not allowed phones,tv, books except the bible, if u go to the dentist or doctor you have a escort. Your tested weekly for nicotine also. You start at 6am with a full hour church service, then classes on the bible all day long, then another church service at 900 then 930 bedtime, oh and 5 min allowed showers at 830
I hope that John does a follow up on this. I have worked in 4 different Rehabs, and they are pretty much the same, all they care about is the insurance money.
I was a heroin addict for over 10 years. I'd tried to quit, and failed, so many times I'd given up. I knew it was going to kill me, and I didn't care anymore.
My girlfriend at the time got pregnant, and the day my daughter was born I finally quit again. I've been clean over 7 years now, and I know it's only because the birth of my child, and the amazing woman I was with, that I'm still here. It is a lifetime struggle, I don't want to use again, ever, but I also know I have to be careful not to out myself in temptations way. I don't know what the answer is, how does someone get clean, I got lucky and I know it. But it is possible. You really do have to want it, and you have to reach out for help. Good luck to all those still struggling, it is worth it. It's not easy, but it's absolutely worth it.
Congrats and keep moving forward. Its not easy - I know.
@@wcolautti Thank you. I don't think there's anything in the world that would make me give up what I have now and go back to using, but just the fear that it's possible keeps me terrified of any opiates lol. I hope others are able to free themselves from it as well. It's the only thing id classify as pure evil, bit the allure is strong.
@@altusshow7574it’s big of you to know your struggle and do what you can to keep fighting for your loved ones 💙
We all owe this man. Thank you John and the staff of LWT for bringing serious issues to the table.
Also, he's going to be Zazu in Jon Favreau's Lion King. That will be amazing.
Addiction is a self-inflicted problem. Hardly what I'd call a "serious issue".
LWT only gets the issues right, most of the time. For example:
When their segment on Opioids ran, there already had been a wave of suicides by chronic pain patients, in Washington State, who could not find another pain clinic, after the one they had been using closed.
I've dealt with attitudes despite being a responsible patient for over a decade, and having broken four vertebra, due to being almost killed by a drunk driver. This is the part of the story that LWT basically ignored, and currently it is almost impossible to be treated for severe chronic pain, even if your injury causes debilitating pain, and is slowly killing you....
Ian Goodman Well be glad that you have not lost anyone dear to you. People dying by the thousands and not having anything resembling proper help is serious bud.
I love this. I am a recovering heroin addict in Canada. I've been in methadone treatment along with outpatient treatment for 7 years now, no relapses in that 7 years I have 2 daughters, happily married, successful and happy.My life is not perfect, I have systemic lupus and days can be fucking hard but I get by with the help of my methadone doctor, my therapist, constant monitoring and I don't pay for anything. I went to rehab here that my parents did pay for bc all of the government funded beds were taken and it was a 2 week wait to get one at the rehab near my parents and they didn't want to take the risk of letting me go use for another 2 weeks. They paid $8000 for 4 months of treatment. We were told from the get go that the success rate of addicts getting clean is extremely low .... as low as 10% of us. I relapsed after treatment and learned how to inject from someone I was in treatment with and we relapsed together after we finished our program. It took me another 2 years after rehab to end up in Vancouver with the very real threat of ending up homeless on hastings when I met a harm reduction doctor that suggested methadone. I haven't looked back and its taken a lot of work to be where I am. Constant therapy, dose management, you have to work up to having carries; meaning I had to go to the pharmacy every day for my dose and have clean random urine tests (I would say they test us at random once every 2 to 3 months and bc its Canada you dont need insurance). I now have a week of carries, which is the maximum allotted amount for a licensed methadone dr to prescribe for addiction, and I've had my weekly's for 5 years now meaning at the very least I see my pharmacist once a week, who knows why I'm taking methadone and is in contact with my clinic as to how they believe on a face to face basis I'm doing, which is amazing. Americans can say what they want about the Canadian system but if it wasn't for this amazing treatment I would be dead. I'm also so proud that the Alberta government where I am allocated funds to opiate addiction and was able to keep clinics open longer, hire more doctors, open 3 new clinics in my city and have 2 safe injection sites. This video was amazing and needs to be discussed so much more. All my love to anyone suffering out there.
So glad to read this. I volunteered for a school year at a Christian residential rehab facility (using the term "rehab facility" very loosely here) in Edmonton and was, frankly, very disturbed by their operation. To be blunt, what I saw was the substitution of drug addiction for fanatical religion. I have no idea what practical skills they were actually teaching the women to help them stay clean, but man, that injection of day in, day out religion cannot be healthy. I don't believe it's ethical to proselytize like that to vulnerable people, ever. I spent time volunteering on East Hastings with street ministries and came away with the same observations. I'm very grateful this country has coverage for actual evidence-based care, but I'm sad that these unqualified religious organizations are all too willing to take advantage of the shortage of bed spaces and treatment options.
I cried when he told us that the drug addiction specialist's son and the interviewee died. That caught me completely off guard. I'm breathing deep here. I lost friends myself to drug addiction and a drug-abuse related suicide and I can't listen to this without being directly touched. This was a hard episode for me.
Not surprising; addiction is trick to treat. It is sad.
me too. that made it hit.
@@ingriddubbel8468
Or: they were miserable and the drugs helped them.
I just got a bill from an outpatient rehab that I went to for a month or two 5 years ago, for $13,500. They billed my insurance company $1292 per test, but $420 to me. That's liquid gold.
Surprised he didn't mention the rehab in NC that was sending patients to work in nursing homes doing work they weren't qualified to do, where some were stealing meds etc, or screwing up patient care - big story, terrible. Also surprised he didn't talk about how often rehab is court mandated and people have zero choice about where they go
Emily Rachel Gilley you come here by way of Ars Technica?
No kidding. When I was forced into rehab it was under threat of jail just like 90% of the rest of people there. Not necessarily because they're ready to get help, but because they had no option.
Seriously? That happened in NC? Man everyday I learn something bad about this state
He didn't mention it because he was only focusing on Florida.
I didn't even think of court mandated rehab,
"And for sense of just how bad things can be, look at Florida". A very re-usable quote.
Feakos I agree with this...
Flordia man strongly disagrees with you.
Uncannily accurate and perfectly describing so many different scenarios that come out of the "Wang of America."
Pretty much universally applicable, really.
“The truth is that every addicted patient receives not as much rehab as he or she needs, but as much as he or she can afford.”
- Olivier Ameisen, M.D.
A man that cured himself of his alcoholism.
His book called “The End of My Addiction” validates this information 100%. It is a hard book to read, but is is the most important book I have ever read.
My mom’s been to rehab twice for alcohol and she still a notorious drunk I wish they could help her better
That's not how it works. Sobriety is always a personal decision. You can lead a lamb to water, but you can't make it drink my man.
@@bbbbbbb51 Yeah because that moralising, individualistic approach has worked so well. So well that one’s odds of dying of a substance use disorder or related condition are as high as they’ve ever been in most industrialised countries.
/face palm
@@bbbbbbb51 Disease and illness are not 'decisions', you donk.
AA is a good place to start, if she hasn’t yet! Some AA members go to several groups to support their sobriety!
Either way, it is a good idea to try out several groups to see where one feels more comfortable!
You can also ask when u call up AA if they could send an experienced AA mentor to talk with her!
Meanwhile, u could use help, also! ALANON, ( for families) , ACOA (Adult Children of Alcoholics) !
There are good books on the topic, also, at ur local library! The librarian can help u finding the support groups and resources!
You need to recover, to heal, also, to learn how to cope with an alcoholic, do’s and don’ts! You need much support for yourself, irregardless if your Mom ever gets help!
I'm a Certified Advanced Alcohol and Drug Counselor (CAADC) in the State of Michigan, and I've got two important things to say on this:
1. Do not confuse the recovery process with the "Florida Shuffle" mentioned in the video. Relapse can be a part of recovery, but the Shuffle talked about here is more akin to the neglect given by the providers and the profiteering of the industry categorized here. Don't think that just because it takes a few times thru to get clean means that Rehabs aren't trying to help.
2. In addition to asking a doctor for a referral for inpatient, you should always try and consult agencies or professionals in the field. Usually rehabs with affiliations to larger hospital systems or agencies are best because they have accreditation standards to meet with oversight. Also, like John said, some rehabs might not be the best fit depending on how serious the patient is about getting help.
Just know that even if you have the worst insurance on the planet, there is always a path to recovery is you know where to look and how to look for it.
But if you have no insurance your fucked. Cool. Great system.
chonchan there is Block Grant funding the Federal government gives to every state for SA treatment for just that situation. Plus with ACA mediciad plans are available that have coverage for residential treatment
chonchan Actually the best rehab I know of doesn't charge patients or insurance.
I was at a shitty rehab on the east side of Detroit and got some of the best help.
chonchan as an American who isn't rich, I'm fucked regardless. However, the federally funded organization SAMHSA (Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration- www.samhsa.org 800-662-HELP) helps provide treatment options on a sliding scale basis to fellow Americans who are more fucked & also unable to get clean alone. Are there waiting lists? Yup. Is it a shitty, broken system? Resounding yes. ARE WE VOTING TO CHANGE IT? ... ... ... hello?
Nothing better to start Monday morning with than 20 minutes that will make me laugh, depressed and angry at everything.
when I saw Belinda Carlise say " I used to do drugs" the first thing that popped in my mind was
" I used to do drugs...... I still do.
But I used to too."
Mitch Hedburg
Sad that Mitch also overdosed :(
I love Mitch. He'll be missed
ME TOO!!!! I bet that ad is what he was referencing.
I am a recovering addict. Luckily I went to an awesome rehab. The process isn’t easy, you have to want it. I completed rehab in 2017 and still have weekly therapy. And I also live in a sober house in Philadelphia.
To be fair John, getting evidence/fact-based ANYTHING in this country is becoming a challenge. We seem to have developed a strained relationship with the truth and anything that isn't a sales pitch.
Cae Watson wow...you make a good point:/
Considering "evidence-based" is on the list of banned budget words at the CDC, not surprised.
Bingo. Anything can become a money-shitter for a dedicated scam artist.
And we can thank the Trump administration for that. But that's what happens when we let a known con-artist and narcissist run the country.
Kaija Schmauss
Trump didn't start it. The regressive left was at it before him. Before the regressives were the neocons of the early 2000s. In the 80s and 90s it was a bipartisan effort to ban the scary new things that religious whackjobs were afraid of. I could go even further back, but I think I've made my point. Truth, logic, and sense has always been tangential to policy, not just in America but in every hall of power ever. Truth logic, and sense is just a little harder to come by today in this country than it has been in the last few decades.
RIP guy who didn't liked horses
I was so upset when Oliver said he died, I missed the next three things he said and had to pause the vid
Yeah he seemed like a straight up cool dude.
Watch the one on opioids, just as fuckt... - Dialysis if you got the time...
Most people I know who use opioids are funny in a straight up kind of way, just don't trust them with your money.
j mace - what is the name of the documentary
As and addict of 8 years, 2 rehabs and 1 mental hospital I can truly say thank you, thank you for addressing the scam that is a “ rehab “ I started using drugs at 13 to deal with my father beating my mother and I. Luckily we got out of the situation but the scars still haunt me to this day. Luckily I found a doctor who cared about me, who put me on the right PTSD medication. Addiction is a never ending process, it eats you alive day after day. Nobody wakes up at 8 years old going “ oh I want to be a fucking drug addict “ ... people don’t understand that not everybody has a “great” up bringing. Some people need a crutch in life so they don’t go fucking crazy on you normal mother fuckers. My finally thought being, that every addict has his or her chance at starting a fresh new life, one without pain or misery, I hope for peace in all addict.
Young TrapLord23 someone who started doing drugs NOT because they're a piece of shit? You'd think people like that simply don't exist from a lot of comments.
Young TrapLord23 I wish you nothing but peace and happiness, and hope things get better for you soon.
Young TrapLord23 as a PTSD sufferer, I'd love to know what that drug is as my psychiatrist had me on everything until we both agreed my best option is not approved in the USA.
But best of luck to you and peace forever.
I was prescribed 100mg of Zoloft, it helps with my flashback symptoms. I'm not saying its the perfect solution, I still experience flashbacks but not as severe with detail or how long they used to last. Everyone has different results, I used a lot of mind altering substances to " make me forget " and iv found Zoloft doesn't turn me into a "zombie" just goin through the day as other prescribed medications have in the past.
Were a rare bunch I guess, the stigma of being labeled an "addict" really stops people from seeing the bigger picture of mental health and living environments.
John Oliver seems to have a complicated relationship with horses
John Oliver 🤝 Richard Hammond
Hating horses for no apparent reason
@@andrewhailstorm4081 see his vid on gurbanguly burnimukhammadov. The horse relationship changes.
@@zaidzehn The enemy to lovers story the world didn't ask for, and really doesn't need.
Maybe he got trolled with the Enumclaw Horse video
Yknow, the video where a horse stuck its dick in a man and the man later died in the hostpial from.. i think its called a hemorrhage
@@zaidzehn ... If he were a horse. But, to be fair, that's how they make new horses.
R.I.P. Horse Hating Guy.
We had so much in common.
King of Roses, i like horses ... Except when they shit 🤣
rewer so you never like horses?
I would advise others to always looks for a place that is run by a Clinical Psychologist and who has a dual diagnosis component (treats both drug dependency and mental health).
That is very important indeed. I would advise others to NOT use things that might land you in a state of dependency. I am a recovering butter pecan addict with a duel diagnosis of spontaneous intercourse with large breasted women. It took work but baby steps for the beginner.
That’s literally the best way. Best response I’ve read so far.
Yep, it’s so important to go to people who actually know about mental health. That being said, I’ve been to an outpatient clinic for mental illness and that, like so many, was a shitshow where the psychiatrist saw me for literally five minutes one time and then prescribed me a drug that my current psychiatrist immediately took me off of.
Or not. The field of psychology as it exists today is pseudoscience, plain and simple. There's little replicability in the field and the testing methods can be so far removed from the tested hypothesis (yet still taken seriously) that without major changes or advancements, it can't and shouldn't be taken seriously. There is a real need for somebody who can cure mental health problems, but psychology as medicine is still in its leeching phase.
MrCalifornia1234 Agreed! And then get rid of the 12 steps! A.A., if you study it is a religion. Dual diagnosis is the best way to go along with c.b.t. and schema therapy.
Does America appreciate the value John Oliver brings them? It's a blessing that you guys have a person who puts out informative contents like this every week which is so helpful for the youth and the general public. To have discussions on topics that are relevent to all.
Tell that to the idiots who come on here and say that he's a slave to corporate overlords because he criticized Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign.
Not just America. We even started to discuss about John Oliver episodes in english classes (germany)
Milo, he is still on air, if Americans didn't like him, he would have been kicked to the curve like Piers Morgon. The thing is as an American I'll tell you. Americans hate hearing about politics we hear it every day how shitty how President is, how bad gun violence is, how the system is broken. Oliver comes approaches problems in a light hearted way, which is appericated due to how stressful life is in the states already.
I know that there's plenty of humans who consciously or subconsciously think that addicts are moral failures and that something like that would never happen to them or to a "good" person,I just wanna say it's not healthy to take morality for granted like that. Stuff like becoming mentally I'll or addicted etc can happen to anyone. And everyone in that position deserved empathy and help.
How true. Addiction affects all ages, all classes, all income levels, all races, all nationalities, all genders - all everyone. Indeed, the people who tend to develop the most severe addictions tend to be people at or near the top of the income distribution, since they have the most available cash to cultivate and maintain such a habit.
Usually, I´m annoyed by all the rules and guidelines we have in Germany but when I hear things like this, I´m happy that we have them 🙈
@C.S.R. B.
No, she said the grass is brown and smelly on your side of the fence.
D E U T S C H L A N D
@C.S.R. B. oi mister, I do not approve you calling us Nazis :p
I also do not approve calling the Germans Nazis.
Especially considering there are more self-proclaimed Nazis in the US than in Germany.
@@apieceoftapeva2558 oof, you roasted em good
"What's the doctor-to-horse ratio in there" has severe John Mulaney energy
@I. Wynn Wynn I seriously can't stand the dude
Space Dragon I was thinking the exactly that
I was seriously about to comment that.
It just makes me think about the rehab arc in Bojack horseman
@I. Wynn Wynn personally, I don't think I have ever even entertained the idea of John Mulaney being an overrated, cocky, and ugly asshole. You trolling or something? :-)
I actually saw a Cliffside Malibu advertisement recently, and as someone who knows what dealing with alcoholism is like, my first reaction was, there should be a Last Week Tonight about this. Voila.
Awsamazing Eden what about the ad made you say that? What about your experience with alcoholism set off a red flag for you that others may not catch?
jennifer queen Don’t know about him or what being an addict might mean with regard to it, but I for one am just straight up cynical. Plus, pretty much all advertising nowadays has some element of legal-loophole-exploiting truth-shading to it.
Personally, I'm instantly suspicious of any rehab clinic that advertises. Advertising is expensive as hell. The only reason to do it is to try to attract new clients because you know you'll make more money on them than you spend on both the ads, and the cost of the treatment itself. Advertising means your goal is to make a profit, and profit, as has been demonstrated over and over again in the US, is a _toxic_ motivation for providing healthcare.
I had the same reaction to their ads.. anyone who claims to easily cure addiction is ridiculous and seems to at worst have a fundamental misunderstanding of how addiction and recovery works as it is a process which requires some level of constant vigilance and at worst is just telling patients and their families what they want to hear, promising a BS quick fix to a tragic problem that just doesn’t exist.. it takes work and honesty courage etc. if it worked that way the billions spent on it would reflect that those who have insurance get clean and are cured but the numbers and life experiences of people don’t reflect that at all.. this isn’t something you can throw money at. Don’t get me wrong I’m not disparaging families of addicts who spend their savings to try to help their loved ones... if anything thinking you are cured is a dangerous
Continued... thinking you’re cured is a dangerous mindset for most addicts IMO because it sets you up to maybe put yourself in dangerous positions like spending time with people who are still using because you feel like you have control of your addiction and get overconfident I’ve seen people say oh I can stop after one by one shot whatever because I learned these tools in rehab so I won’t get strung out again... see addiction makes you want to justify and rationalize stupid mistakes because your addiction wants to use it’s just that simple... and telling people this BS in rehab where they are so vulnerable and trying to get better and the fact that they even made it to rehab before their addiction led them to the morgue is such a crucial step... it’s harmful IMO it’s irresponsible it just sucks in short it’s wrong and shortsighted selfish and as someone that a family is trusting to save their kids or whoever’s life it’s doubly disgusting IMO. I’m not being melodramatic there look at the statistics I personally also know many many people who have died because of addiction and so the stakes really are just that high I don’t know if the cliff side Malibu douchebags realize that but dealing with addicts I think they must know and only care about the $ milking insurance... then there is the mental health industry and pharmaceutical companies... ugh 😑 privatized insurance obviously leads to the goal being the almighty dollar and not the health and well-being if your patients... I’m not saying it’s impossible to have s free market privatized healthcare system that works but might as well be seeing how things are now in the USA. That is A whole other can of worms that I don’t have time to discuss the nuances of here on TH-cam.. so cheers everyone if anyone reading this ishurting or knows someone who is be it from addiction or something else you are not alone feelings pass you are strong enough to get better if you’re willing to work for it you may not feel able to now but have some faith in whatever you feel you still can if there’s nothing you can believe in then maybe just try because you have nothing to lose anyway...you are strong enough but don’t rely on yourself alone your thinking got you to where you are today and your choices and some other stuff beyond your control like the addiction gene... ask for help and good luck to you remember you are not alone no matter how alone you may feel so many have dealt with the beast of addiction strangling them and stealing their life and dreams goals family freedom etc you can get better. Feel free to msg me if you need to talk or just someone to listen and not judge. I hope you are safe until you can get help chase a clean life like you chase a fix you know you can be determined for one so decide it’s a priority don’t worry about physical withdrawals to begin with just decide you are worth saving and don’t give up no matter how many obstacles might be in your path. You may not feel loved but you are still here despite whatever risks you took to use and you can get better. 😉 good luck 🍀👍🏻
Recovery rates for addicts going to rehab are around 30 - 33%. And that estimate is considered probably too high. At legitimate rehab centers. I have so many friends who have gone to Florida specifically for rehab and found out what John Oliver was saying the hard way.
Thumbs up for acknowledging the excruciating experience of talking to people on the phone.
DeAndre Enrico that could be a whole episode on it's own
Making profit from the misery of people - it's distinctly American!
Its pretty much distinctly human.
Aqua Marine No it’s not. People in other countries actually care about each other.
Youre basically right, but thats only a temporary state i figure, when you look at written human history. People care about each other, countries dont. They care about their economic interest.
Aqua Marine I heard the argument that: an individual can show compassion but a corporation can't.
This is getting pretty old. So America looks dumb compared to other countries. Wow. How profound of you.
America has only existed for a couple hundred years. Of course it is going through it's societal adolescence now. Countries that have existed for over a thousand years look at America as somehow different only because the atrocious events and policies of those countries are now in their distant past. They still happened, but because the current generation feels removed from those atrocities they feel like they have the right to criticize America. Basically they willfully ignore what their own ancestors did to smugly point their pious fingers at America.
This is just the nature of societal maturation, of building civilizations of humans... crappy periods always precede more enlightened periods. New nations always go through a trial-and-error period because humans, in general, are dumb, superstitious, savage, paranoid, illogical, morons that don't learn from history.
Take any European nation 250 years after its formation and compare it to America. It is pretty much the norm for societies to go through this. For example, Germany was founded in 962 AD. What was it like in Germany in the year 1200? Was it some bastion of beautiful enlightened harmony at that point in it's development? HARDLY. The Kingdom of Germany was basically the Christian version of ISIS during the Wendish Crusade. And lest we forget, Germany only ended the holocaust around 70 years ago.
Now, who had a major role in ending the holocaust? OH YEAH: America. Germany was still under the rule of a homicidal, fascist, racist dictator less than 100 years ago. Italy, France, and other European nations had similar problems less than a century ago.
Other European nations were in even worse shape (in terms of societal health) 250 years into their existence. The point is that regardless of the technological era, societal evolution goes through the same painful development. Judging America as if your nation is so awesome and pious is really just an exercise that lacks any introspection or depth.
This is scary accurate. I went to rehab is south Florida. This is sickening. So many people I knew were stuck in that shuffle, until they died.
Monk Killedababy I live in (South) Florida and *all* Floridians know Florida is fucked up.(We still have or least try to have a good and happy life though) I’m sorry people you knew were stuck in the Florida shuffle and it is sickening.
I’m so sorry.
"YOUR TOMORROW MAY NEVER COME." Is so predatory.
I expected John to open a Rehab center at the end of the program.
Nikola Kanchev He’s done weirder.
Right on ... Best medicine is laughter ... 10 yrs sober this month ...
Congrats man. Keep it up brother
congrats!!! just hit 1 year sober last month :-)
That's wonderful! Congrats to all with even one day of sobriety under their belt.
Yay
Congratulations you got this bro
People also lie about their drug use because they fear they can be forced into treatment (up ending their lives) if they tell the truth.
Amos Heart not to mention legal consequences
Yup, for a person fighting an addiction, losing their job is a great fear because they know they won't get another and may lead to living on the street if their family isn't willing to help or they're orphans. The stress of it could certainly make the addiction worse.
Yes, plenty of things happen at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
😂😂😂
I honestly want to say ty to John Oliver for this episode. I'm going through an addiction myself right now and needed the truth about rehab. The website that Doctors are now certified to help you out is a plus. My physician doesn't even know what addiction is. That is sad. TY John.
Michael Cappello look into IBOGAINE for addiction. I can personally vouch it works. Good luck
tofolux Are you a salesman for a company that sells this? The entire thread is full of your comment, repeated and repeated and repeated. I think most of us understood the first time you wrote this!!
The Opinionist High Quality Opinions nope, do you see any links? I’m just super excited and really want to spread the word. There is a cure for addiction that works. I encourage people to learn about it themselves
I'm reporting you for commercial spam, seeing as you've posted this about a billion times under one video. If Ibogaine has any merit to it, then hopefully a doctor will recommend it to their patients and not some shady individual in a TH-cam comments section.
下佐粉ケイ Jesus Christ, I’m trying to help people! How is it spam? I simply give the name and encourage people to learn more for themselves. Because your a dick other people who might be saved are gonna get screwed. Well done.
I am in India and in a country like ours its even worse. People who run rehabs are only and only interested in milking the addict or their family for as much money as possible. As an addict (and even more important for the family of the addict) its important to understand that repeat customers and longer stays are good for their business!!
Btw there are many Europeans and Americans who also come to India because they want to pay less for a stay in rehab, and I have seen many of them are taken for rides as well. Besides when you come to a completely different environment and get clean and go back to your world, you have even more difficulty coping. I personally know a couple of people who had this problem and didnt stay clean for long...
edit : had no idea this comment would become so popular and would be seen by so many people. I just want to add something for anyone who is unfortunate enough to be going through addiction themselves or has a family member going through it. Different strokes work for different folks in recovery and while rehabs have no lasting benefit on the lives of a majority of addicts, there are people who DO benefit from stays in a rehab.
I have seen many of those kinds of people as well who will go on to become counselors etc in the field themselves. You could be one of those people and if doctors, out patient "harm reduction" clinics etc haven't been able to help you then maybe you should give them a shot just be aware of what your getting into. Try to ascertain every little detail about where you plan to go (even more true for Indian rehabs and "spiritual healing centers" if you do come to India or are Indian like me) because a lot of them have misleading promotional websites etc that paint a completely different picture compared to the reality of the place...
natty_the_great foreigners are like mushrooms. Feed them shit and keep them in dark.
This happens a lot in latin america too, they are called "informal" (obviously illegal) rehabilitation centers, only horrible stories come frome those places, yet poor people keep sending their loved ones but it's a fake hope, absolutely NONE work.
If, as you say, europeans and north-americans bring their people for these, a reminder for anyone reading and considering doing that: don't believe any of these work in any kind of way.
You don't need a second chance if you don't screw up to begin with.
Yes, and sadly these fraudulent institutions give a bad reputation to the legitimate counselors and clinics. I had worked in a de-add centre for a year , and many came in after they had been taken for a ride by so called 'specialists' . It becomes very important to check legitimacy.
BILGILI KANAL Have you seen them beautiful Indian babes my friend? Didn't think as much lol
I ate a strip of acid, contemplated on my life for 16 hours. Next day made an appointment for detox. Over 2 years sober from alcohol now. Thanks LSD.
LSD actually breaks the addiction mechanism in the human brain.
yeah, i have seen some news headlines that LSD can break addiction.
I've seen this happen for opiod addiction. Lsd is magical. Everyone should try it at least once.
Shrooms has a higher cure rate for most addictions. Aya (DMT) is better for heroin.
if you need any first hand accounts lmk
I had a rock bottom moment and a serious conversation with my family about my drinking problem about 10 years ago. My mom looked up addiction treatment and the first question on the first call she made was about insurance. It was an out of state resort/treatment facility. I went to free AA meetings instead and stayed sober for over 6 years.
You really hit home and shine light on all the things no one wants to talk about
Stay golden
Was anyone else expecting John to open his own rehab center at the end of this episode?
I don't know. Why don't you ask his 5 Wax Presidents?
Praise Be! (He could do it no questions asked in Florida...)
T4silly maybe they can staff it
Was totally expecting that. Hoping they were going to do that. Lol xD
But then again, in this case, it adds to the problem where lives are technically in danger... The church they started had no danger involved... unless you count Oliver being exposed to stranger's "Seed"
The depravity of this country's medical system is deplorable beyond both words and comprehension.
the depravity of people is still worse.
@@JohnnyBot71 No it's not
I completely concur with your assessment of this complex and egregious subject. But also, calm down Merriam Webster.
@@mattjamison484 He didnt even use big words. I guess to conservatives words like "both" and "and" might be too big...
@@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow What?
On the one hand I want John to become more famous so he can spread his message but on the other hand I am genuinely worried about his personal safety. Companies and peoples as described in his videos will make sure of deleting anything and anyone who is shedding light on this huge pile of bs.
This could not be more accurate, unfortunately. I've worked in the addictions/mental health field for over 15 years and just recently decided to start my own practice. I cannot even begin to explain the atrocities I witnessed and experienced working for both the for-profit and non-profit agencies. These agencies are filled with unqualified, inexperienced, and uncredentialled staff. Not only were clients using and overdosing in these facilities, so were the staff!! And so many staff members practicing outside of their scope of practice. Not to mention, just because you have direct experience using drugs and alcohol does NOT mean you are qualified to treat this disease. When does it end?! And the general population has no clue what goes on behind closed doors in a rehab. It's no wonder the relapse rate is upwards of 70%.
This dude is the best late night personality. No... question...
conan
I love conan. But I gotta give it to JO
because he gives meaningful information to the public. this is why they got an emmy award
Gregory Lombana yes but he’s weekly and recorded. Conan is live and nightly. Not hating on JO. But Conan is the goat
I can respect that
John Oliver: The hero the world needs.
Albe Van Hanoy but not the hero we deserve
This guy should run for president. I know he doesnt want to but he would really build the skeleton to epic solutions in his term.
Wasn’t born in America he could go for congress senate or House but not presidency
Very true. I forgot about that. I only recalled him saying he didnt want that job and who could blame him
I learn a lot from his show every time. Thank you John Oliver.
Thank you for this. As an EMT in Ohio, heart of the opioid epidemic, and someone who has watched a friend cycle through rehabs until getting sober at her parents' farm (more goats than horses), and someone who worries about her own alcohol intake, I appreciate every bit of this. Many of my coworkers act like addiction is a choice and that people could get help if they wanted, but that's just something we tell ourselves to get through the day. I personally wish that I drank less than I do, and have considered some form of treatment, but the fact that I'm not a hardcore alcoholic and that all these places seem like expensive nonsense keep me away. Health care services in this country cost thousands of times more than they should, and are horribly sub-par. It's disgusting.
Diana Huntress thank you for sharing. I’m also in Ohio and lost a dear friend to an opioid overdose last year. I found him once (before he passed away) and had to call the paramedics. They behaved exactly as you described, even asking each other why they bother saving people who clearly don’t care about their lives. And I do get that point of view especially when you see the same person over and over again.
Maybe you could share with your coworkers that that callousness is just another barrier to treatment. When people are in desperate need of help, it can be extremely off-putting to approach other medical professionals when they’ve already been treated like a waste of their time.
It also opens the door for the kind of private rehabs in this episode to prey on them and their families under the guise of being a more “understanding/sympathetic” path to recovery.
Please read Chasing the Scream: The first and last days of the War on Drugs by J. Hari and then give it to your friend, you're welcome and keep up the good work!
Too much money on the wrong side of the issue ya know? I am sorry you have to see what you see, but I am glad you do it because it takes more courage and wit than I will ever have.
Rehabs scare me, I locked myself in a room for a couple months and it was like that scene from trainspotting. It's been almost a year, I don't know what the answer is it's been a huge battle and the sad part was getting sober was off of suboxone which is a "rehab" drug in itself. It can be helpful but if anyone is considering suboxone it is a very long withdrawal and the doctors that give it always say "You will be on this for life" which in my mind is bullshit because that's another form of addiction. I can't stress enough that addicts and people that care for addicts Cold Turkey withdrawals can and will kill people especially with Alcohol and Benzos like Xanax, even in rare Cases Opiate withdrawals. If you are caring for an addict, or are one yourself really try to step your doses down with the help of friends / therapy / support groups to get to the point where you want to be. It doesn't happen in months, or years but take it slow and avoid rehabs at all costs. And remember the problems you ran away from by taking the drugs are the ones that will still be there when you are sober getting rid of those problems is the hardest part about sobriety and if you don't then relapse is likely.
Diana Huntress more people should know about Resilience and Adverse Childhood Experiences ( ACEs )
Addiction is messy and complicated. The brain, fearing withdrawal, would come up with anything to get a fix. When it has to make a choice, there is no moral ground, no fear of consequences; the list of priorities is simple: get high, then everything else. It takes time and lots of patience and dedication to solve this complicated twisted issue. So yes, it is life and death, not some losers to suck out money from. It could have been anyone of us in their position, which should increase our empathy for them, and really try to help them. Worst part - won’t always work, but we should keep trying.
Savva Lakichevich ..You typed all of that to basically say nothing.
Savva Lakichevich Perhaps the, term, "addiction" is too broad. It's more of an obsessive-compulsive disorder. Perhaps if our government continues deficit war spending, we'll never understand how our economy keeps throwing swafts of ASMR like google playstore and facebook (and TH-cam) as distractions from reasonable understanding.
That's right, I'm calling, "addiction" a myth. It would take a college education and then some, to prove me wrong.
The term addiction isn't too broad. addiction is a loss of control over time, place and quantity. It can be for anything food, sex, drugs. As long as you are unable to control the time, place and quantity you are addicted
Mian Faizan Solid reply. May I ask, how is that different from an ocd?
Ash Wolf Then it depends on the strength of the compulsion. How do you make someone aware of their compulsion and the effects of the consequences?
I'm glad I live in Europe. It may not be perfect (nothing really is) but at the very least things don't seem to be as maniacally profit-driven as in the US. this is indeed fucking crazy
João Pedro Tomás same, in Portugal we decriminalized drugs and instead of punishment we help them with state funded rehab and therapy. Wish the US would put it's people before corporate entities but to the average citizen money/free market is more important than human life and compassion.
To the both of you, thanks for compassion. So many die from easily treated diseases, may be why they use drugs. To escape the hopelessness of for profit driven system. I have attended so many funerals of overdose victims, too many.
Christina Cope that's really unfortunate. I wonder when all of this will actually matter to the average American.
I wonder exactly if they really think it through about money. Because in Portugal, our programs allowed heroine usage to drop from 21% to 0.2% since decriminalisation and needle exchange programs started. That means that we have a boatload of productive citizens that started working, paying taxes, instead of robbing or begging on the street. In terms of money spent by state, it dropped, it lot, because of what was saved by not having these people committing crimes, being arrested, court expenses, vandalism damage, etc, etc. But in terms of money recovered and put into circulation, I think that quality of life and respect for the individual can be paired with economical success, for everyone's benefit. It just takes a little while longer.
Soraya Imperial Good old USA, land of the free with highest prison population. Those in charge(and church)have not figured out crime rate is related to poverty and drug use. They have enough money for gated property and/or private security. Another reason so many citizens carry guns☹
I am an Alum to the 3 major rehabs in my area and still struggle. Love you John.
You are never actually cured of addiction...you just learn how to manage it everyday
Not true.
@@HES9 TRUE
@@HES9 ok boomer
👏👏 friend of Bill 👏👏💯
Yes. Saying you are cured of addiction is like saying you have learned to live without air.
If I were clinically depressed and resorting to extreme drugs and alcohol, I'm not sure I'd want to stay at a place called ... CLIFFSIDE - Malibu or no Malibu.
How convenient
You know, setting aside the possible connotations that may make some people upset and whatnot, that's actually a very good point. 🤔🤔
You're right. Just shows how much that guy cared. It's just about money for him.
I wish there were a show like this in India! So many critical issues so easily influenced and manipulated by a few individuals. The truth the absolute truth is the best.
Abhishek Jain There should be a show like this in every country I think 😊
Theres On Air with AIB
Can't just forget Satyamev Jayate
As someone who’s been to 12+ rehabs (not including detoxes sober houses or hospitalizations) and is now 7+ years clean from heroin after a decade long battle of ups and downs and am aware that it’s still something I have to be continually mindful of, gratitude and other things as well as medicine assisted treatment which is far more backed by science and the growing understanding of dependency and addiction and recovery. I’ve been to rehabs that were horrible and I’ve been to the very rehab that started equine therapy in Utah, I’ve been in rehabs with famous people in the Caribbean, I’ve been to rehab with prisoners at the Salvation Army and other free programs and others that are very high end and expensive, thankfully Insurance covered much of it, and thankfully I’ have my life and am so grateful to have been clean and gotten out of using junk right when the fentanyl thing was starting and it was getting into places it shouldn’t. So many people I once knew are no longer living because of their addictions or alcoholism or cross addictions, and I’ve learned a lot about the industry of recovery and rehabs than I’d like and this was very enlightening. We must fight for the rights and liberty of those struggling with addiction and to create better regulations and safeguards for humans, their health care and mental wellness.
I started having serious migraine headaches while in the Navy. They tried for 4 years to find a cause or cure, with no luck. They ended up just prescribing me Vicodin to take as needed. Huge mistake. Took just a couple of months until I was addicted. I was in San Diego so when I ran out of pills too early to refill, I hopped across the border and bought a few hundred more. A lady friend of mine came back from Tucson with some cocaine one weekend. I started doing coke with her every Friday night, and pills the rest of the week. Navy finally medically discharged me, handed me a check for $45k and sent me off to the VA. Since I had moved too far from San Diego to jump the border, they kindly would take my order by phone and FedEx me a bag of pills for $1,200 at a time. I also increased my coke use to 5-6 nights a week. I blew that entire $45k check in less than a year. I had met a girl online, we fell in love and she moved in the day I ran out of coke and pills. She helped me get clean but it was one of the worst experiences ever. For 2 whole months I did nothing but vomit, sweat, and sometimes shit myself on a futon in the living room, all while shaking like I was freezing to death. I dropped from almost 300lbs to 173lbs in the first 6 months of leaving the Navy. I refused to sleep with her until I was over the withdrawals. I know in my heart that if she hadn't shown up, I would be dead right now. It's kinda ironic now that while I've never touched coke since, the few times I've attempted to take a narcotic painkiller, my body immediately and violent begins to vomit it back up.
Coradon how did you thank her?
Thank you for your service and I'm happy that you are clean.
This woman sounds like a saint. I am glad she helped you survive and you managed to stick it out during this horrible sounding time of your life. Congrats on getting clean!!
I empathize with your struggle. However, how in the world were you in the military and weighing in around 300 pounds?
@@spacekadebt1641 It was muscle weight and not fat weight. Big difference
I'm from Florida, and I approved this message
You can get rich by starting a body bag business
Thank you so much for this. I worked in treatment for over 10 years and had to eventually leave out of disgust for how exploitive and corrupt it has become. Getting sober does not cost $30 - 100k.
3:13 this quote hit me really hard... about a month ago I lost my uncle in south Florida. He moved there to help with his drug addiction but it became worse, starting doing crack , stealing from stores, he even got thrown out of a car at one point by someone else on drugs. He was never actually able to get treatment and just ended up dying in his 50s.
I went to rehab last year, and mine told us that 1 in 10 of us would stay sober. Maybe I picked a good one. BTW, I am that one.
Hell yeah! Good job :) How are you doing now? Btw no shame if you relapsed
Yay! Proud of you
Congrats!
Congrats! I also think it's probably at least a better sign that your facility was pretty honest about it than if they claimed 80% of the people that came in were cured.
Congrats, hope you stay that way!
I'm afraid to acknowledge that Dr. Phil has repeatedly endorsed Cliffside Malibu and sent his patients there, some as young as 15
Was wondering if that's one he's recommended. Maybe they've been taken over by a new group? He's only started sending them there recently, hasn't he? Strange..
Oh, what a shock!
Can't say I'm that suprised reading this 😒😒.
Dr Phil involved with a rehab con job? Oh, please say it isn’t so.
Dr. Phil is a quack. I once admired him until I checked sources about things he said. He's not honest, misleads and misinforms people. Sad, but true.
He wasn't like this when his show first started but has devolved.
A close friend of mine, and brother to one of my best friends died from opiate abuse a few years ago. I've been struggling with a drinking problem, but after going to an AMAZING detox center in Massachusetts, and working with an in-home daily recovery team, it's really made all the difference. It's important to do research and find what will be right for you. The best part about most of the legit places, is that if you think they aren't helping, or are making you worse, you're free to leave, no questions asked.
The detox place was called Recovery Centers of America Westminster.
Massachusetts has some of the best health care in the world. McLean Hospital is the #1 mental hospital in the world.
I’m a heroin addict who would very much like to be clean, but in my experience and the experience of many people I’ve known, the hardest part is finding the time to properly deal with it. Life doesn’t stand still while you sort your shit out, I’m flat broke, and in order for me to fully withdrawal alone would take 3 weeks. If I didn’t work for three weeks, I’d starve. I always tell my girlfriend “it seems like neither of us ever get a break”. This seems to me to be the biggest obstacle in any addicts beginning recovery, and I really don’t know what to do about it.
If you have no money you can get emergency SNAP (food stamps) benefits on short notice in the USA although exact rules vary state to state. I know it's not that simple that that's an amazing answer but. If it's life or death there are things one can do.
A lot of employers have EAPs, which will help you get treatment if you self-report before you get caught. That includes employment protection.