How Bad Is The PT-76?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2021
- There are plenty of awful tanks in War Thunder, but I didn't think the Soviet PT-76 light tank would be among them. It's got a dual axis stabilizer at 5.3, how could that be below average? Fairly easily, apparently. Suffice to say, stock APCR is not fun.
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I loved the PT 76 dearly when it was released, but after they DOUBLED the reload time it just became unplayable for me
@@petrkdn8224 9.2 sec base, which is just a bit quicker than your average panther or tiger. given that it has abysmal damage, huge silhouette and no armor I feel like this is not good enough because often your enemies can get a crew member back before you can shoot again
@@petrkdn8224 9.2 seconds.
@@petrkdn8224 It used to be, I believe, 5 seconds flat on release.
which is something gaijn fucks up consistently. Instead of pushing a tank up .3 or .7 BR and buffing its stats, they nerf it and keep/drop it by .3 or .7 and it just isn't working. They need to decompress quickly before the game dies, it is reaching a criticality point, and we are consistently getting scenarios like half the enemies that tiger 1's IS-1's and jumbos fight use HEAT or sometimes APDS. Fast moving light tanks and cars from the 1960's swarm and easily destroy tanks designed and built in the 40's, and the only thing that stops THEM are your own team's 60's vehicles-- but wait, you're at 5.3 and have no premiums, so you're not getting any of that yet. Sorry, you must suffer instead.
That still fast reload
As the entire community can attest to, ANYTHING forced to using stock APCR is trash until better shells are unlocked
M56 heheheh XD
The German M48…
The JPz got its stock 300+ mm pen APCR shell replaced with a 102mm pen HESH...
ST-A1, ST-A2...
ARL-44 at 5.7 with 90mm "obus de rupture", stock and non-upgradable ammunition, can still one-shot a 5.7 Tiger's front hull center of mass
"The suffering doesn't end there tho" Spookston, when playing War Thunder, the suffering NEVER ends
Pretty good analysis. It's perhaps one of the worst vehicles I've played stock, but not terrible once you get HEAT.
I like to uptier it a bit to 6-7 br's. It doesn't do much worse there, and it makes it more satisfying when you get a kill.
It's also alot more aesthetic.
That is, unless you get the chinese one.
If you get the chinese one you will perish.
Why?
@@samuelsocha2767 The Chinese one does not get a stabilizer, and it's so miserable to play along with all the downsides of a Soviet PT-76
@@crakepenguin144 dude really fucj that I am not using the Chinese one that’s my main ground tree on pc and I did not know that it did not have one
Another vehicle that is really bad when stock is the Comet 1. You get 130mm of pen at 5.7 and most of the times you're fighting Tiger 2s.
@@whitefoxn1 and as comon to cromwell chassis reverse gear does not exist
I enjoy playing this tank with my Russian 5.3 lineup. Just a tip: always take it out first thing in the match. If you spawn in this while planes are up you will die 100 percent of the time.
I actually quite like to use this as my AA since the turret traverse is decent quick, gotten a fair few kills with it too!!
If you have bushes, set them on top of your tank to reduce your visual profile.
Planes are usually up within a minute of the match though.
@@milosh226 a 7.62 mm machinegun is probably the worst way to AA in this game, especially when you have paper thin armor.
@@melc311 no no you don't understand. I would use the main gun
PT-76 is so fun to play when spaded, even though the reload's long you can just abuse the wehraboos thinking "MUH JAGDPANTHER FRONT PLATE IS IMPENETRABLE" and give them a nice heatfs round to rethink their strategy
IS-2 can pen it aswell
@@brumaki Lol
@@brumaki yeah but is-2 is more scary to them, they don't expect a little dingus to kill them
So hear me out but I think that for a time the front plate of the jagd was invincible. When I used to main the thing in arcade, id always (ALWAYS) brawl with it, going straight to the point and just aiming the hull at one tank, waiting for them to rico, then aiming to another while they reload, and then the cycle repeats. I recently tried it, however maybe the playerbase gained a few extra braincells or something because I get penned now. This happened when I got uptiered aswell, except facing leos and that. Can someone tell me if there was an adjustment to the jagd's front plate or is it the braincell update to the playerbase? thx.
@@stainlesssteelruler143 just braincells, I'm assuming you switched from arcade to rb?
I have fully researched the chinese PT76, just need to buy it, good thing this video got uploaded right on time.
Edit: Damn TH-cam comment section is one of the best places to get war thunder advice.
The chinese one don't have a stabilizer and smoothbore
If you really want to play it play the russian one
Man, forget that thing, its an early model without any stab, you're better off with that chaffee, or use one of those t 34 85s, as a "pseudo" light tank
skip it. totally sucks. the type 63 is a very good replacement
Lol same
The M18 is a very good teir 3 light tank
Thanks for reminding me of my PT-76 grind experience, absolutely horrible until I got heat-fs.
I usually use PT-76 only during operation SUFFER to do the assists task. There Is almost zero chance to one shot enemy tanks, but it can do atleast minor damage to modules.
Use HEAT-FS, I easly one shot tigers with that
@@vanja2565 No, you don't.
@@melc311 well, tell that to tigers i fucked up with it
@@vanja2565 you can kill a tiger with anything if you camp for 15 minutes and catch one offguard and get a lucky hit on the ammo rack. doesn't change the fact that the pt76 is a bad tank for 5.3 with too many cons.
@@melc311 I agree about the pt-76, however most of my kills were head on
-Long reload
-Default round that suck
Yep i still remember those days trying to unlock the HEAT round,pure pain.
I believe at some point they buffed its reload. I always remembered it being around 10 seconds but now it's 7.6 with a full reload expert crew, not the best but certainly not too bad either.
you think russian version is bad? try I chinese one, lacks stabilizer worse turret rotation and fuel tanks on back does not help either
the chinese pt may not have a stabilizer but the tank itself is very stable while moving so it doesnt matter that much and its turret actually rotates much faster than the russian version
The turret is faster on the chinese model, stop spreading misinformation
@@Nightmare_52 *STABLE*
You mean *SLOW*
rather be slow than completely incapable of firing on the move
@@xender166 ye try comparing it without crew and with same modifications so its fair and then tell me about the result
We had it nicknamed "PTSD - 76"
We have named it pippa
Once I got to the heat I had a ton of fun lobbing shots at sniping tigers. The dispersion is awful but the sheer salt you gather is great.
Plus, if anyone whines that it's OP the lobby usually comes together to shit on them.
The PT-76 is honestly (and oddly) one of my favorite light tanks to play for the reasons you mentioned. Good mobility, good gun stability and a decent HEAT-FS round all at BR 5.3. Sure the stock grind was abysmal at first with the APCR but when I adjusted my tactics (and expectations) even that wasn't the worst stock grind in a game I've ever experienced. Never really used the APHE rounds because looking at their performance on paper made me nauseous. You did forget one of the *major* upsides the HEAT-FS has- Hullbreaking Hellcats. Even with it's stupidly long reload for a light tank with a 76mm gun because of that mechanic and good positioning I've stopped entire flanks of early-game M18 spam.
I dont know what tank are you playing but the Pt76B has really bad mobility for a tank that has paper thin armor and the HEATFS has bad post pen (if it doesn't get absorbed by some optic in the first place)
I really like this tank too
Gaijin’s lack of interest in fixing APCR after all these years pretty much sums up how they treated War Thunder….
Can the engine handle it?
Maybe not?
or maybe its too much going on
Which leads to crashes
Who the hell knows when they dont tell us anything
You know what sums up their treatment? Those ducking bomber cockpits. After all these years, they haven’t properly modelled a single one of them. Yet event-only planes get fully modelled ones... as long as they are fighters or attack craft.
@@azmanabdula yes it can. apcr spall is similar to ap spall.
@@noveled_1
The point is the Engine might not be able to do it properly
@@azmanabdula thats what im saying, its evident that if the engine can handle AP spall, it can handle doing practically the same spall for APCR. gaijin tells us when the engine limits them, like what happened with the Turm III and the fact that they couldn't implement 3 axis stabilization for it because of the engine. However, spalling can be totally handled by the Dagor Engine,
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Wow I fu**** love the music you choose. So good man
Nice use of music from Prodeus! Love the sound track from that game
I had immense fun playing in the Chinese PT-76, whereas the Russian one, even with HEAT-FS, I struggle a lot. I think the Chinese one, being faster makes it better. The loss of the Stabs, means little with it too, the gun handling is amazing, you can generally get a lot of kills while moving, because the gun doesn't move around too much.
Spookston, I noticed your speech is much slower, controlled, and easier to understand now! Awesome job, your videos are becoming much more enjoyable for me!
the subnautica music was a good touch nice video man
I like the PT-76B very much, though stock experience is fatal for the brain. APCR is not good for the only shell you can use after you get the tank
You are lucky you started playing it after its buffs. I spaded it when it had 11ish second reload stock and overpressure wasnt added to the game yet. I recently revisited it myself and its ability to oneshot m18s and m36s was definitely a highlight for sure.
Honestly I never expect a tank at stock to be good until I get majority of the modifications
I like PT-76. It's a good support tank for 5.7 line up.
@Pommy Pie Eh it heavily depends imo
@Pommy Pie What other soviet
yeah, if you really need a tank for scouting only in 5.3
@Pommy Pie well, the heat shell might kill some light tanks, but ovar all, no thx
and the motility is much worse than any other light tank in 5.3
Imo the pt 76 is a good first spawn tank because it has a stab and once finally spaded it is one the best soviet tanks at 5.3 and even to 6.7 (sorry for the horrible typing and shit im not good with mobile)
Saw you in this the other day and figured you were making a video in it
PT-76B is absolutely fantastic, i loved mine. Its so fun just bonking king tigers because their turrets are shokingly awful.
I even liked the Chinese PT-76, altough the lack of stabilizer was noticeable
Congratulations, you have one of the few youtube channels that can keep my cat interested through the whole video.
Always appreciate it when people use subnautica music in the background
I've never seen (or don't remember) a Spookston's video where he explodes so much. Also, the kill assists show instead of the kills had me loling xD
What could've been your kill count , becomes your kill assist count on this tank.
I saw you in my game using the PT-76, I was star struck. You ended up kicking our ass lmao
I’m surprised, the Pt-76 is one of my most played tanks and I love it, still a great video talking about another view on it.
Personally I enjoy it solely thanks to its meme potential. I also really love that stab, it’s so helpful on a vehicle that is so lovably garbage.
The PT-76B is actually my favorite tank in the Russian tech tree, I understand the APCR grind is bad but it's amazing to play with HEAT-FS on, maybe because wehraboos think that i cant do shit to them even on the move, overall fun tank actually (when u have HEAT-FS) and helped me through grinding SL.
Spook giving me flashbacks back to my time grinding 5.3 USSR and getting an up tier every game
One of the few tanks I didn't put in a lineup in the Soviet tree, it's so hard to spade when you already have to spade the IS-2 when every round magnetically tracks to your barrel and the T34 85, which is just another medium like the Sherman and Centurion.
Long barreled tanks get barrel shot spamed so fucking much trust me I play kingtigers
@@giovanniscarano2027 I play UK, USA, USSR and Germany (Too much free time) and have gotten to the long barrel tiers on all of them (6.0-7.3, 5.3-7.3, 4.3-7.0, 5.3-6.7) and can say all of them suffer from it, but the worse by far is the T32, its put at a 7.3 with 120mm of angles armour, good for 6.7 but below average for 7.3, with a gun that, while only abit bigger than most mediums, has a muzzle brake wider than a mauses front armour.
Thx for the vid I'm currently researching it right now and I wanted to know what it was like before I got it.
2 days ago I purchased the PT-76B and when I saw that stock ammo was APCR I thought it would be interesting and okay. But as I had played and lost a lot, and went broke, I cried myself to sleep that day and when I research the BK I was happy as all hell. But it cost me a lot and a lot of time.
I think that PT fills a very useful role as a support vehicle. When upgraded it has good mobility so it's useful of caping objectives. You can help your team (and earn assists) by scouting. The heat round may not be a guaranteed one-shot but it's amazing for disabling and challenging heavy German tanks that are often invincible from the front when using APHE
I love vibin to abandon ship in the background
This thing is good spookston
I really like the PT-76B, it's one of my favorite light tank in the game, sure the grind to HEAT-FS is a pain in the ass, but once it's done you can be extremely deadly. Plus scouting hability, pretty good mobility, amphibious capability, smoke screen, cold War era stabilizer, this thing is great.
Forgot to mention the abysmal reload which gaijin nerfed back when HEAT-FS was basically stock
So it was hit twice with the nerf bat at once by losing stock HEAT as well as getting like 4 more seconds for a reload
For the note, it has more internal space than the AML-90, a smaller gun and lighter shells
Yet the reload is slower for absolutely no reason
this is 100% accurate, like 75% of the time is assists but playing support as a PT is actually a lot of fun especially with a squad, but even alone it still works really well. Great vid, loving the series!
I remember just a week ago when I apcr grinded the t92 and m56. APHE is a blessing
as always, your music choice is fantastic, now if you excuse me, I have to bite the urge to reinstall and start down the Soviet line again.
I think one of the main things that makes it worth using is that you can easily pen the overwhelming amounts of panthers, jagdpanthers, jumbo's etc.
spokestone: the PT-76 is okay bu.."
video: *subnautica sounds*
the jp4-5 used to have stock apcr, but it was terrible so they thought it would be a good idea to remove the apcr and replace it with nothing so now all it has stock is 90mm hesh with cant pen anything except really light tanks, so now its even worse
I actually played several games with you as you were using the PT-76. I was hoping to see myself in your video but alas it was not meant to be. 😁 Of course, I didn't follow you around though so I guess it wasn't likely. I don't have the PT but it seems like on paper it should be good but I have not heard good things about it. If you don't have a ton of success with it, I am sure it would be hell for a middle of the road player such as myself.
"Sometimes you get one shots, sometimes it takes four rounds"
Oh yeah, War Thunder in a Nutshell
I didn’t know what APCR was and thought “they makes it sound like its really overpowered” *montage with badass music and dying complimation”
0:57 For a few seconds, that Tiger player got to live the Wehraboo dream, feeling invincible behind his KRUPPSTEEL!
I've been on the stock grind for this thing and I'm glad its not just me that thought it was garbage. Can't wait to get the Heat
Spookston not killing anything that dares to exist? How is that possible?
It is very fun to use it's one of my favorite vehicles in mid BR
ah, you use epic thunder as well, a man of culture
Uninstalled WT a couple months ago, and here Spooks is, making me want to hit that install button again B(
I remember when I first got the tank, how amazing I thought it would be, since it was the the earliest tank to get HEATFS at the time (unsure if that's still true). Boy was I quickly proven wrong.
Subnaughtica music in the background. Nice.
It's just a preview of the 906 for me. It's pretty good when used right, but as you once said. "Sometimes you die where there's nothing you could've done about it"
APCR beats your expectations up and makes them flee while teaching you to move better to always get flank or go in from behind, and then you unlock the cHEAT-FS
1:55 You KNOW this guy immediately stopped playing for the day after something like that.
When i got this tank, in the first few months i got it it was my first place tank or vehicle in all of my playtime. it was first place up until i got the bmp-1, which it was taken by the bmp. i love the pt-76
PT-76 players:
Don't fuck with me, I will cry.
Chinese PT-76 is an experimental tank (just like the WZ-121 aka Type 62), it is a program where they are trying out their own technology to counter the BMP-1, the tank isnt made for combat, but it can do damage if it is suddenly in war.
One of my favourite tanks actually, I enjoy it even with it's downsides
Honestly, it's a fun vehicle. It also got a guy (Tiger2h, pennetrated the front of the turret) to rage at me, which was hillarious, around the time it was first introduced.
I remember reading Vietnam war veterans accounts of dealing with pt76s in Vietnam swamps...apperantly law rockets had a tendency to bounce so badly that a hunter killer team bounced something like 8 out of 18 laws they had with them
i really like this tank, i still use it. its the only tank with a stabilizer until 8.3 where you get the t-55. the stock grind was abysmally bad however as with any tank with APCR stock.
mad respect to you for spading that... thing...
As a player who heavily relies on the PT-76B (to the point that I main it in my 5.3 lineup), I agree with the "cool garbage" statement. It's main issue (in my opinion) is the 10 sec stock reload (76mm), putting it behind the Panther (75mm), the Tiger (88mm), and even the Tiger II (88mm). It really could use a reduction of 1-1.5 seconds, which would put it on par with the avarage reload.
Another problem (as said in the video) is the stock grind. The APCR and APHE are effectively useless, and mobility is below avarage for a light tank. The HEAT-FS is better, until you're up against a Tiger II, which is when you gotta flank (using your "mobility").
It's armor is basically a *light* light tank, 10-15mm is only useful against APHE (they sometimes just act like AP due to their fuse).
The stabilizer is a welcome (and useful) advantage for the tank, the NVD is mostly useless. The engine generated smoke screen is a must-use if you want to escape any situation alive. The amphibious ability (as usual) doesn't really change anything.
Overall, I've found that your best bet is to act as a "second turret" for the closest heavy/well armored medium you can find, scouting and shooting anything you see, helping them repair, and capping points. And *always* make sure that you have at least one or two allied tanks infront of you. And by scouting, you also also get a quick plane for yourself (maybe even a glorious Pe-8 with FAAB-5000)
For assist missions i usually play British tanks, those less lethal APDS will do critical damage and not kill the tanks especially if you intentionally (or not) miss the ammo racks, the Comet is a good choice for example
This thing is honestly fun with the anti-meta lineup that you can make at 5.3-6.3. PT76, the tank destroyer that's basically a gun on tracks with a super slow turret turn rate and basically 0 armor, plus an IS-2. Of course the AA of that br range is fun in combination as well, iirc it has good gun pen and a slow rare of fire but when you get air kills with it, it's very satisfying.
I can't recall the vehicle names and uninstalled the game, sorry for anyone trying to decipher which vehicles I'm referring to.
Gotta love the Subnautica music :D
APCR is like "fuck that spot in particular. But not too hard, someone might get hurt"
I remember when it was first added. They were still experimenting with adding cold war tanks at the time, and goddamn was it terrifying to come up against it. That was a long time ago, though. Maybe it got rebalanced over and over again over the course of 4 years and that's how we got this.
But have you tried Chinese PT-76...? It same as Russian but without stab at same BR
Just thought about that. I was like "Wait, it has a stab?! But the last time I played, its gun wiggles alo... Oh, I was playing the chinese..."
China be like the tree for people that doesn't to spend as much time on grinding but want to get early access to majority of the good stuff of US and Soviet , which also doesn't perform just as good
I wonder when the first aircraft video is coming out for this series?
Playing this thing with stock ammo was pain, but once I got the HEAT rounds it turned into a glass canon.
Good video, but how about you do the stock MI4-AV next. I heard it's a really bad helicopter and I wanna see if it really is or not.
I remember the grind with this thing...
Dear lord, the travesty. But once APHE and after that, HEAT-FS is unlocked, its fairly decent.
I think it also has night vision, but you never end up in night games around that tier/br.
The Heat-FS basically pens everything around that BR and even 1.0 up. It's still 'good' in 6.3 as well, so uptiering is no problem.
I'd say that I didn't have much issues when I was playing it. I did actually use it in a higher BR lineup and it positively surprised me, even stock, although I wouldn't recommend it as the best light tank for 7.7 uptiers
I love this bean. I like me a floating Soviet tracked vehicle.
I love facing these things, one of the few tanks for america at that br that you can pen anywhere
God it's been years since I spaded this thing, I forgot it started with those shells. I actually researched new shells before Parts or FPE
I’ve just started the stock grind on the German bulldog and I found the stock apcr pretty decent to my surprise
Honestly the m48 stock grind was worse for me. at least with this tank you can grind it with scouting.
Once you get the Heat fs, its a great ambusher. you can use the stabilizer to hide behind cover, and peak out to shoot oblivious enemies.
Also i even bring it up to uptiers up to 7.3 and it works great even up there.
The best use I've found for it was to hull break M18s during events when players would rush caps with them, the last time I played it was when I was grinding for BT-7A F-32 so idk if the HEAT round is capable of over pressuring the M18 crews with the new system.
It should be able to overpressure , unless the HEATFS has explosive filler as little as T-34-57's.
I'm going to admit that the PT-76 has been and still is one of my favorite soviet light tanks. I even regularly bring it all the way up to my 6.7 lineup. It's also just a really nice looking tank.
5.3 with HEAT-FS out of a dual stabilized cannon is amazing. It just suffers from stock syndrome, which all tanks have to some extent
Ik this is a really late comment and will probably get buried, but thanks Spookston. I just got the PT76 and was wondering how well it does. This will help get past stock a little bit lol
Irl the "aphe" was actually an armor piercing incendiary round which should nuke the inside of anything it pens. That's why the pen is so low for it. Also gajiggle could add the HISTORICALLY ACCURATE pen for the heat which is around 280mm
I thoroughly enjoy the PT-76 its by far one of my most favorite tanks in WT. the only issue I had with it, is being revenge bombed by the people I kill
If you shoot a Sherman and it doesn't blow up, you know you're shooting marshmallows.
One of the best scout vehicles in the game
So the PT is bad for being a Light tank with NVD that can't frontally one shot heavy tanks without it's HEATFS?
The problem is that it also can't get flanks.
it's sort of infuriating for your HEATFS to frontally pen a panther in the hull and then kill some insignificant crewman since you missed the one you were aiming for by 3 cm
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Unless you're fighting against Tunnel Vision Günther.
@@igoryst3049 to be fair, that happens to pretty much every tank.
I seriously think its great, keeps up with other tanks, great stabilizer, great pen, shells wont detonate in you (most of the time)
The biggest down sides to be are the painful APCR grind and the poor post pen effects of the actually good round, and the arguably kind of slow reload time.
Once you spade it and get the crew upgraded I would say its one of Russia's better rank IV's that can hold its own against rank V's.
Biggest plus (for me atleast) is that it absolutely thrashes any light tank you come across, so if you are decent at guessing ranges it makes sniping fast tanks pretty easy
On a separate note they seemed to fix the British L26 round it actually kills now, instead of the weak hamster coughing on ammo it was before
"Sometimes you get one-shots, sometimes it takes four rounds." I kinda feel that's just how War Thunder do.