Dalrymple’s first bundle of essays titled Life at the Bottom actually changed the way I look at the world. Wonderful man. Deeply humane, non dogmatic, intelligent and funny. Thanks for putting this on TH-cam.
I am an old Leftie, but Life at the Bottom made a deep impression on me. Reality is never as simple as propagandists of either side would have us believe.
Huge leftie here too but wow .... this guy's been out in the trenches and he knows that type of people and since I was quite poor growing up I was around some of those type of people too. "The knife just went in" indeed.
Being Not a leftie it is good to hear this sort of thing. There must be more that unites us than divides. Even and despite the fact there is a quasi-religious ideology to follow in all its ways.
Outstanding! He speaks exactly like the book writes, even if he's uncomfortable speaking publicly. I would probably be the only 20-something-year-old in the audience and I'd be laughing my butt off.
The final question revealed a bit of a culture clash between British and American ways of thinking. The person asking the question seemed to believe that it could be a good thing for people to take large quantities of drugs if it seemed to make them feel better. Theodore Dalrymple replied by saying he was very sceptical that it could ever be a good idea for anyone to take large amounts of drugs (unless of course they suffer from a definite condition like epilepsy for example).
Passing on responsibility onto an object like a knife that kills a person is well known from ancient Greek tragedy where it's exactly the same. It's the object that should be punished, for example an axe is guilty of killing somebody.
the title is a play o n Shakespeare King Leo i.e charge of the stars..; He states; Life too complicated for witch doctors people lack self esteem ( balance) 1 out of 7 on anti depressants all placebo effect great book!!
9:30 to 10:30 mins...... and the ready and willing nature to even proffer up "reasons and excuses" direct, by those bullies, abusers etc to their targets, is perhaps the obvious corollary.
8:50 "The knife went in." Is it a conscious device to minimize the crime, or is it that the ego can't handle the event and tries to disassociate itself?... That should be a normal reaction to causing someone's death, something a psychopathic personality perhaps wouldn't say. A serial murderer will often amplify his crimes.
It's simply the outcome of a person refusing to take responsibility for their own life and actions, and instead believing that everything that happens is always the fault of something or someone else.
@@dtd1986 Yes, refusing to take responsibility, but in the case of murder that would actually be the normal person's reaction, only a psychopath would immediately own it.
@@KidMillions He later raised the point that everybody in the room has at one point used that same tactic. His point as far as I can tell is that this tactic of avoiding responsibility is something common to all mankind. So yes, it's normal and human, but it's also dishonest and unproductive.
Why does the first speaker keep referring to Theodore Dalrymple as Anthony Danials? He introduces him as Anthony Danials and calls him 'Tony' several times.
Dr.Johnson had no idea of the basis of shyness. It most certainly isn't related to any sense of ones importance - it is present in persons who have a very sharp, sensitive sense of individual boundaries, and an uncertainty causing psychological tension as to whether we can be sure we wont tread on the boundaries of others, nor that they will trample on ours.
I like Tony enormously. But, speaking as a formerly depressed person, I find it completely plausible that Andreas Lubitz was depressed. Depression turns some sufferers into nihilists. If they have particularly unkind ex-partners, they'll regularly be told that their suicidal ideation is narcissistic, self-centred, attention-seeking and controlling. They'll be surrounded by indications that they're not taken seriously, not respected. In some dreadful cases, the solution they come to is that they're going to teach their exes and the general public to sit up and take notice of people like them. So they fly their planes into the ground or commit terrible murder suicides like Rowan Baxter's murder of Hannah Clarke, his estranged wife, and the three small children he had with her, followed of course by his suicide. Tony's derision and unwillingness to label nihilistic, despairing people who can see no end to the very dark tunnel they find themselves in is a common response, but it really isn't the most helpful response. The most obvious reasons for the Germanwings disaster - a disaster waiting to happen - were absurd ethical codes in medicine, codes that forbid practitioners to break patient confidentiality and share pretty vital information about their infectious diseases or psychological distress, and similar rules in German human resource departments.
Just wondering if the two psychologists who were paid a total of $ 81,000,000 to devise methods with which torture suspected terrorists contribute to general moral depravity or would that be better characterized as an example of the invisible hand of the free market ?
Manhattan Institute is well stocked with some of the finest ultra-conservative minds of the 13th century. They still in the 21st century do not understand income and wealth inequality. It's partly due to a Shameful Evasion. Thinking about such things gives them migraines.
Wealth inequality is produc of other forms of inequality, like competence inequality, creativity inequality, intelligence inequality, willingness to save money inequality, willingness to work inequality, and the standard solution that you hear is, let's take money from competent people and give to the incompetent ones, and the vision of wealth creation of mos people are from 18th century, always exploitation, nothing else.
he does explain somewhere b/c it sounds old fashioned and stuffy - besides i consider him a self publicist on a par with russell brand? illustrating his experiences intentionally at the expense of the less fortunate in a crude way [so no need for a pseudonym]
He began using the pseudonym many years ago to maintain his privacy and that of his patients, since he sometimes refers to specific cases. Because he became known more under the pseudonym than his own name, he has continued to use it.
@@steveconatser9968 I think there's also a UK law concerning doctors advertising or something like that, so I'd assume he didn't take up the pseudonym in order to hide his identity. In an early conflict with a local government they sought him out for reprimand and knew his real name, but there happened to be another Dr. Anthony Daniels in the same town, lol.
This guy knows nothing about psychology. Dude doesn’t even reference CBT which is the leading therapy in the modern era and wave of psychology. Psychoanalysis is mostly speculation and theory why are you basing a book off of two psychology books you’ve read in an airport? Get out of here until u understand the field better. Go back to biology or whatever ur doctorate is in. Smh Reference: I have a M.S. in Pscyhology
Just for your info, he has referenced CBT in other presentations. CBT has been codified in recent years, but is a very old practice. ‘There is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so’ ( with apologies to Shakespeare). It is useful, but is limited in the disorders where it seems to work well, which are commonly ‘the worried well’. It is popular because it is bureaucratically seen as cheap, and translates to being able (in certain jurisdictions)to be delivered by anyone.
Dalrymple’s first bundle of essays titled Life at the Bottom actually changed the way I look at the world. Wonderful man. Deeply humane, non dogmatic, intelligent and funny. Thanks for putting this on TH-cam.
don't you think his humor makes his stories so much more real?
and he writes so well.
I am an old Leftie, but Life at the Bottom made a deep impression on me.
Reality is never as simple as propagandists of either side would have us believe.
Huge leftie here too but wow .... this guy's been out in the trenches and he knows that type of people and since I was quite poor growing up I was around some of those type of people too. "The knife just went in" indeed.
Being Not a leftie it is good to hear this sort of thing. There must be more that unites us than divides. Even and despite the fact there is a quasi-religious ideology to follow in all its ways.
I guess Orwell was a leftie but not afraid to show the nihilism and the lack of aspirations of the underclass.
Outstanding! He speaks exactly like the book writes, even if he's uncomfortable speaking publicly. I would probably be the only 20-something-year-old in the audience and I'd be laughing my butt off.
Hillary Crosson if you’re reading these, well done. Resource your mind with the great authors of every stripe; we learn much from them
I recently turned 30 and just discovered this amazing man, found out that he has been caught smuggling books to Romania
Outstanding talk, thank you very much. I commend your efforts in helping to enhance Understanding of HUMANITY.
He and Johnson have a brilliant definition of self consciousness/bashfulness.
The final question revealed a bit of a culture clash between British and American ways of thinking. The person asking the question seemed to believe that it could be a good thing for people to take large quantities of drugs if it seemed to make them feel better. Theodore Dalrymple replied by saying he was very sceptical that it could ever be a good idea for anyone to take large amounts of drugs (unless of course they suffer from a definite condition like epilepsy for example).
Passing on responsibility onto an object like a knife that kills a person is well known from ancient Greek tragedy where it's exactly the same. It's the object that should be punished, for example an axe is guilty of killing somebody.
talk starts at 4:00
Funny start almost immediately afterwards, around 05:00. He’s very.
“We are subjects to ourselves”
admirable evasions how psychology undermines morality Theodore Dalrymple
the title is a play o n Shakespeare King Leo i.e charge of the stars..;
He states;
Life too complicated for witch doctors
people lack self esteem ( balance)
1 out of 7 on anti depressants
all placebo effect
great book!!
9:30 to 10:30 mins...... and the ready and willing nature to even proffer up "reasons and excuses" direct, by those bullies, abusers etc to their targets, is perhaps the obvious corollary.
Oddly, like criminals, journalists use the passive voice when they want to obscure the agency of some horror.
8:50 "The knife went in." Is it a conscious device to minimize the crime, or is it that the ego can't handle the event and tries to disassociate itself?... That should be a normal reaction to causing someone's death, something a psychopathic personality perhaps wouldn't say. A serial murderer will often amplify his crimes.
I think its the influence of a creative writing class
It's simply the outcome of a person refusing to take responsibility for their own life and actions, and instead believing that everything that happens is always the fault of something or someone else.
@@dtd1986 Yes, refusing to take responsibility, but in the case of murder that would actually be the normal person's reaction, only a psychopath would immediately own it.
@@KidMillions He later raised the point that everybody in the room has at one point used that same tactic. His point as far as I can tell is that this tactic of avoiding responsibility is something common to all mankind. So yes, it's normal and human, but it's also dishonest and unproductive.
Why does the first speaker keep referring to Theodore Dalrymple as Anthony Danials? He introduces him as Anthony Danials and calls him 'Tony' several times.
Theodore Dalrymple is a pen name. His real name is Anthony Daniels.
Dr.Johnson had no idea of the basis of shyness. It most certainly isn't related to any sense of ones importance - it is present in persons who have a very sharp, sensitive sense of individual boundaries, and an uncertainty causing psychological tension as to whether we can be sure we wont tread on the boundaries of others, nor that they will trample on ours.
Anyone recognise the questioner's voice at 28:32? JBP!
Don't think so.
Big nope.
41:00 the doctor- ' theres nothing wrong with you b/c i can't cure you '
Stefan Zweig meets P G Wodehouse.
Actually 9:00mins onwards..... 🤔🤗
I like Tony enormously. But, speaking as a formerly depressed person, I find it completely plausible that Andreas Lubitz was depressed. Depression turns some sufferers into nihilists. If they have particularly unkind ex-partners, they'll regularly be told that their suicidal ideation is narcissistic, self-centred, attention-seeking and controlling. They'll be surrounded by indications that they're not taken seriously, not respected. In some dreadful cases, the solution they come to is that they're going to teach their exes and the general public to sit up and take notice of people like them. So they fly their planes into the ground or commit terrible murder suicides like Rowan Baxter's murder of Hannah Clarke, his estranged wife, and the three small children he had with her, followed of course by his suicide.
Tony's derision and unwillingness to label nihilistic, despairing people who can see no end to the very dark tunnel they find themselves in is a common response, but it really isn't the most helpful response.
The most obvious reasons for the Germanwings disaster - a disaster waiting to happen - were absurd ethical codes in medicine, codes that forbid practitioners to break patient confidentiality and share pretty vital information about their infectious diseases or psychological distress, and similar rules in German human resource departments.
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Just wondering if the two psychologists who were paid a total of $ 81,000,000 to devise methods with which torture suspected terrorists contribute to general moral depravity or would that be better characterized as an example of the invisible hand of the free market ?
They were paid by the goverment not the market
Manhattan Institute is well stocked with some of the finest ultra-conservative minds of the 13th century. They still in the 21st century do not understand income and wealth inequality.
It's partly due to a Shameful Evasion. Thinking about such things gives them migraines.
and deliberately so
Nor do you.
Wealth inequality is produc of other forms of inequality, like competence inequality, creativity inequality, intelligence inequality, willingness to save money inequality, willingness to work inequality, and the standard solution that you hear is, let's take money from competent people and give to the incompetent ones, and the vision of wealth creation of mos people are from 18th century, always exploitation, nothing else.
Anthony Daniels/Theodore Dalrymple...what's the point of using a pseudonym, if you don't make the slightest effort to keep your true identity secret?
he does explain somewhere b/c it sounds old fashioned and stuffy - besides i consider him a self publicist on a par with russell brand? illustrating his experiences intentionally at the expense of the less fortunate in a crude way [so no need for a pseudonym]
He began using the pseudonym many years ago to maintain his privacy and that of his patients, since he sometimes refers to specific cases. Because he became known more under the pseudonym than his own name, he has continued to use it.
@@steveconatser9968 I think there's also a UK law concerning doctors advertising or something like that, so I'd assume he didn't take up the pseudonym in order to hide his identity. In an early conflict with a local government they sought him out for reprimand and knew his real name, but there happened to be another Dr. Anthony Daniels in the same town, lol.
A little too jokey and flippant for me--
the title is more interesting than the speech.
It's very (A) British understatement (B) a coping mechanism, gallows humor.
perhaps.@@Bytheirfruitsshall
This guy knows nothing about psychology. Dude doesn’t even reference CBT which is the leading therapy in the modern era and wave of psychology. Psychoanalysis is mostly speculation and theory why are you basing a book off of two psychology books you’ve read in an airport?
Get out of here until u understand the field better. Go back to biology or whatever ur doctorate is in. Smh
Reference: I have a M.S. in Pscyhology
I guess you didn't read his book, which is what he is talking about. But it is clear that you missed his point and misunderstood what he said.
He was a consultant psychiatrist you plum
Just for your info, he has referenced CBT in other presentations.
CBT has been codified in recent years, but is a very old practice. ‘There is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so’ ( with apologies to Shakespeare). It is useful, but is limited in the disorders where it seems to work well, which are commonly ‘the worried well’. It is popular because it is bureaucratically seen as cheap, and translates to being able (in certain jurisdictions)to be delivered by anyone.
The Cannon
I'm not sure it's necessary to bring Cock and Ball Torture into the discussion but I agree that it would add to the discussion
Boring right-wing pundit
+Dublin House No doubt you think so because he doesn't reduce the analysis to a convenient narrative, easily understood by childish leftist minds.
+Dublin House Whether you're left or right leaning, Dalrymple is anything but boring.
Nick W Brilliantly put.
Irish prig.