Moon plays more or less the same everytime, just other players does not punish him for mistakes the way Happy does it, left unpunished he shines. He is also very inspiration driven player, thats why some games vs Happy he just throws it, and other might be pretty competitive. Happy has different mentality he is a slayer, the guy who polishes his knife even when it was already a razor couple of years ago, he looking for weakness, he smells it, he goes for it.
Hell no he doesnt usually play this way . In this serie he did some very obvious mistakes he never does . As if he wasnt feeling motivated to win to begin with .
@@ayoub8712 I can see that people usually do mistakes against Happy that they usually don't. I think that's no coincidence, the pressure from Happy and his unmatched micro force people to play perfectly, which means taking more risks to get the perfect play and therefore more mistakes are made.
Even after a patch that buff Night Elf and heavily nerf Undead, Happy still managed to beat Moon in bo5. Will the community finally admit that Happy is simply better? Or are they still going to keep crying about balance?
@@DarkXoiX didn't lawliet beat happy like a few rounds ago? Didn't foggy only lose to happy because of his mental breakdown after almost winning starting off as 2-0? Lol. Keep crying noob, Happy is straight up on another tier than moon currently
The breaking point of this MU is the aura and the orb. As long as the NE cannot counter it, they will always lose. Orc has ensnares and Tc to lock down the UD units. Human has Stormbolt and clap. NE has nothing. Furthermore, orc and human have reliable healing while Ne has trash bears.
It took exactly 50 minutes of in-game time to finish both bo7 and the showmatch vs TeD. What the heck? I'm so frustrated to see Moon in this shape. I mean, I always root for Happy and I'm glad that he won but this didn't feel like a grandfinal at all. 😔
That was so painful to watch. The hero of my Wc3 Childhood absolutely destroyed in 45 Minutes in a BO7... still hope Moon will some day rise to the top again, since his games are the most entertaining and my opinion. But I guess he´s too old and has other priorities in his life, while happy plays 10-12 hours per Day... Still painful 😞
Well moon just didn't prepare for this one at all . Bad strategies LL played better strats vs happy . But No king rules forever . Including our legend Moon
Small error in the video description "Date: February 14th, 2022" just the wrong year :) GG rough games but awesome to see Happy not wavering after a anti Undead patch.
Skills aside, I feel like Moon didn't have the same drive that he had years ago. Losing the DH with an invul and TP was just careless and even the Huntress hall destroyed when he could've saved it if he didn't turn the wisps prematurely felt like he just wanted to get it over with. I wouldn't say he should retire, after all he made it to the finals but maybe he's not as serious as he used to be. Sad.
Ikr . He couldve took many maps if he took it seriously . After all he made it to the final with good play . And he's no way a worse player than LL and kaho vs happy
The latest patch didn't help stop Happy. Only made the rest of the UD suffer. Maybe it's easier to remove the UD from the game so that all the whiners calm down?
What’s frustrating about Moon is that he clearly has a mental hurdle against Happy. Every time they play Moon just doesn’t show. That Demon Hunter death in game 1 is inexcusable for any pro, much less in a grand final!
Dude, I don't know what's going on with moon. I don't know if it's a mental hurdle against happy, or if he's just not as inspired to play. But it can't be ladder, because if he was unmotivated, then how did he make it to the grand final. Losing his DH with an invul, a tp, and a naga w/ staff is just unexcusable. And the huntress hall loss in game 4 is just so wtf. keep the wisps on it bro. Also, NE players need to find a new hero other than naga, she's just bad against UD
Moon needs to work on his UD / Happy matchup. Other NE players are doing much better against Happy, Kaho in particular has had many close series against Happy even before the nerfs to UD
People are underrating Moon so much, it hurts. If you only read comments, without watching any games, you could think that Moon is some tier4 eternal jobber. FYI, Moon was #2 yearly total earnings in 2019 (less than 2k behind Happy), #2 in 2020 (after Infi), #2 in 2021 (after Happy, again) and only in 2022, he finally dropped out of top5 (and it was kinda inactive year for him). And now, he is destroying everyone again. Even here, it took him less than 1 hour to deal with Happy! Tremendous performance!
Moon made so many mistakes in these final games, and let’s be honest it was not final game expectations at all. Put others aside he was a tier 3 player in this particular TH-cam video.
the thing with ud especially is that hero focus and getting any kills in the ud army seems almost impossible due to coils and movement speed. Dk enables Ud in a way that's just too strong... I don't think it's about small balance changes when the core of this whole race is just too strong. For example Heroes are the most important unit in the Game and too loose them is like almost always a big disadvantage ( the higher the lvl the more) and to go for hero focus against an ud army is really hard to execute especially against happy.He just perfected this race and abuses it's strength the most. And the strength is in my opinion the survivability of the whole ud army compared too any other race.( Statues, coil, movement speed) And on top of that ud has a very easy way to execute kills with coil nove and orb focus fire which makes the survivability of the opponents race army even worse and hero focus pretty easy. Happy will dominate as long as they wont change the core strength of this army or that many smaller nerfs hit ud( or buffing the other races significantly) If there was a player on the same micro and macro skill level as happy on another race ... happy would still win. 75 mana to choose if you wanna deal dmg or heal. Just imagine paladin could holy light any race for dmg and devotion aura would give movement speed. Its really hard to kill dk even though he seems more like a support hero.. he is still a strength hero so very hard to kill. I could go on and on about Ud. This is not only happys skill its the combination of the core strength of the ud army and how well Happy executes it. He couldn't do it with any other race like he does with ud . He even says it himself that ud is the strongest race and that's why he plays it. And I say this all as an Ud player... for the health of the Game. And ah yes regarding the survivability of ud army... ud heroes can stay very long in the fight and deal constant dmg while doing 1coil nova on a hero + a little focus fire and hes out of the fight and has to back up while ud heroes can push for more. And this weakens the opponent army a lot. Just imagine a Dh with a paladin... would be the same principle. And thats why triple human heroes with good lvls are soo good against ud and so feared bcs it has the same yeah maybe even a bit more power in healing, unit(hero)- focus than the ud army but it's very hard to get too these lvls and the ud units are in most cases just a better version off the human units. That's what I think about Ud and it's only my opinion though. I love Wc3 and would want it too improve. But yeah still much love to everyone who's still enjoying warcraft 3 :).
At 6:20 caster named all the builds available to NE (ffs the are like 5 or 6 viable) and yet they cheere tha ghoul build isnt viable any more.... One of 2 possible UD builds not viable cause of patch. W for Happy, L for balance and casters.
Это мое любимое уничтожение. Почти всегда в сухую. Кому-то пора на пенсию, а Кахо пусть учит другие страты и займет достойное место со своим 400апм среди топов.
Happy always plays well if not the best whereas Moon is very inconsistent. Mana burn to lvl1 full mana Naga when DK and Lich is in the range was a joke. Come on. It is so frustrating to watch him being so amateur as a fan of Moon.
What the actual bolaks. I'm not a fan of the first game... super weird behavior by Moon. Trolling ? I'm cheering for Happy always, but I hate if people are throwing games like that...
Remo and undead players are very happy. Undead domniates all game as we see top 5 players in wc3, there are 3 undead players. After game, remo still says " oh happy played and dominated the game very well." I just want to ask you Remo, " How many times Night elf is nerfed after moon dominated against all players in old times ? " 2 patches, 3 or 4 patches. Expo nerfed, talon nerfed... I already deleted wc3 from pc. Keep having fun with this garbage game. I have never seen unbalanced stuff in any game. 1 nerubian tower can defens all. Awful game, the DEAD GAME. Thanks for everything Back2Warcraft crew.
how many mistakes can Ne in general and Moon in particular make while winning? look at the game, these are completely different levels of unit control. Nerf Ne plz
@@hesoyam97320 you have nothing to do with eSports Warcraft and allow yourself to argue who should do what and how much. TH, Infi, Tgw switched to elves because they are an unbalanced race. Lawliet 200apm fights on equal terms with Lyn and Happy 450-500apm. this comment doesn't make sense
Happy think I’m best, yes he good gamer no problem, but Moon can be better than he, Moon have to change his mental because he lose versus Happy only mental position.
![WC3 - W3Champions S9 - Grand Final: [UD] Happy vs. Soin [ORC]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vW46CiqszAA/mqdefault.jpg)
![WC3 - W3Champions S9 - Grand Final: [UD] Happy vs. Soin [ORC]](/img/tr.png)
![WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Moon [NE] - LB Round 1 - TP League S2 Finals](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Igw9vEvBoks/mqdefault.jpg)
Spoiler:
I did not expect Moon to win this but seing him getting stomped so badly is pretty sad, not the finals I was hoping for
Happy is simply too strong.
I dream of the day when he retires. This is when these tournament begin to be exciting again.
Both players playing as random race, heroes and units. And TeD making his own cup and loses to the challenger was a very stunning.
Moon plays more or less the same everytime, just other players does not punish him for mistakes the way Happy does it, left unpunished he shines. He is also very inspiration driven player, thats why some games vs Happy he just throws it, and other might be pretty competitive. Happy has different mentality he is a slayer, the guy who polishes his knife even when it was already a razor couple of years ago, he looking for weakness, he smells it, he goes for it.
You said everything
Yes
Hell no he doesnt usually play this way . In this serie he did some very obvious mistakes he never does . As if he wasnt feeling motivated to win to begin with .
@@ayoub8712 I can see that people usually do mistakes against Happy that they usually don't. I think that's no coincidence, the pressure from Happy and his unmatched micro force people to play perfectly, which means taking more risks to get the perfect play and therefore more mistakes are made.
Even after a patch that buff Night Elf and heavily nerf Undead, Happy still managed to beat Moon in bo5. Will the community finally admit that Happy is simply better? Or are they still going to keep crying about balance?
UD is still unwinable as night elf. A player with the same level of skill as Happy, would still lose with NE against him.
@@DarkXoiX didn't lawliet beat happy like a few rounds ago? Didn't foggy only lose to happy because of his mental breakdown after almost winning starting off as 2-0? Lol. Keep crying noob, Happy is straight up on another tier than moon currently
*bo7
The breaking point of this MU is the aura and the orb. As long as the NE cannot counter it, they will always lose. Orc has ensnares and Tc to lock down the UD units. Human has Stormbolt and clap. NE has nothing. Furthermore, orc and human have reliable healing while Ne has trash bears.
I guess that answers the question: they choose crying.
It took exactly 50 minutes of in-game time to finish both bo7 and the showmatch vs TeD. What the heck? I'm so frustrated to see Moon in this shape. I mean, I always root for Happy and I'm glad that he won but this didn't feel like a grandfinal at all. 😔
Happy undead units follows him even if he plays another race
That was so painful to watch. The hero of my Wc3 Childhood absolutely destroyed in 45 Minutes in a BO7... still hope Moon will some day rise to the top again, since his games are the most entertaining and my opinion. But I guess he´s too old and has other priorities in his life, while happy plays 10-12 hours per Day... Still painful 😞
Hype! Got my two best buddies next to me (Dominican cigar and JW black) and awesome games!
Well moon just didn't prepare for this one at all . Bad strategies LL played better strats vs happy .
But No king rules forever . Including our legend Moon
What is the background music called, that starts around 00:07:37? Don't remember it from the original game...
My all time favorites player: Grubby, Moon, Happy. They are from the far far away planet.
Small error in the video description "Date: February 14th, 2022" just the wrong year :) GG rough games but awesome to see Happy not wavering after a anti Undead patch.
Skills aside, I feel like Moon didn't have the same drive that he had years ago. Losing the DH with an invul and TP was just careless and even the Huntress hall destroyed when he could've saved it if he didn't turn the wisps prematurely felt like he just wanted to get it over with. I wouldn't say he should retire, after all he made it to the finals but maybe he's not as serious as he used to be. Sad.
Ikr . He couldve took many maps if he took it seriously . After all he made it to the final with good play . And he's no way a worse player than LL and kaho vs happy
He’s mentally beaten by Happy, Moon often plays well below his best in their games.
The latest patch didn't help stop Happy. Only made the rest of the UD suffer. Maybe it's easier to remove the UD from the game so that all the whiners calm down?
UD op in recent patches as far as I'm aware so I wouldn't really say whiners when its legit. They were probably nerfed for a reason...
The moon is not stable😄
Well, I have a quick question.
Why didn’t 120 take part in this cup?
(I wanted to Watch 120'S play.)
I can say only one thing: a nice BO7 speedrun.
That is one of the fastest bo7.
What’s frustrating about Moon is that he clearly has a mental hurdle against Happy. Every time they play Moon just doesn’t show.
That Demon Hunter death in game 1 is inexcusable for any pro, much less in a grand final!
Yes bro, i too think, when he game with Happy Moon can’t take game his hand
I shook my head so hard on that single mistake
@@4bafiafzil999 Yeah that's when I stopped watching
Obviously NE need nerf
Because weak players like Moon shouldn't play in the finals
Moon is a legend
Jesus, only Happy has the power to make Moon look like some ladder peasant.
Yeah, and UD.
2 weeks ago Lyn destroyed moon as well. Moon is incosistent and does not deliver the necessary performance for the highest level.
Dude, I don't know what's going on with moon. I don't know if it's a mental hurdle against happy, or if he's just not as inspired to play. But it can't be ladder, because if he was unmotivated, then how did he make it to the grand final. Losing his DH with an invul, a tp, and a naga w/ staff is just unexcusable. And the huntress hall loss in game 4 is just so wtf. keep the wisps on it bro.
Also, NE players need to find a new hero other than naga, she's just bad against UD
Moon needs to work on his UD / Happy matchup. Other NE players are doing much better against Happy, Kaho in particular has had many close series against Happy even before the nerfs to UD
Wait. Why didn’t Moon make a single bird? I remembered when he massed birds he cracked the Happy code.
Birds? You mean like pigeons?
@@georgigeshov8048 😅😅
39:59, was an amazing dramatic effect. lmao
Neo says "oy-yoy-yoy-yoy" in such a Russian way! Did Happy teach you?😅
Happy IMPERATOR!!! 💪🏻👏🏻
People are underrating Moon so much, it hurts. If you only read comments, without watching any games, you could think that Moon is some tier4 eternal jobber.
FYI, Moon was #2 yearly total earnings in 2019 (less than 2k behind Happy), #2 in 2020 (after Infi), #2 in 2021 (after Happy, again) and only in 2022, he finally dropped out of top5 (and it was kinda inactive year for him).
And now, he is destroying everyone again. Even here, it took him less than 1 hour to deal with Happy! Tremendous performance!
@@L30B055 my joke fell flat, I see...
Moon made so many mistakes in these final games, and let’s be honest it was not final game expectations at all. Put others aside he was a tier 3 player in this particular TH-cam video.
the thing with ud especially is that hero focus and getting any kills in the ud army seems almost impossible due to coils and movement speed. Dk enables Ud in a way that's just too strong... I don't think it's about small balance changes when the core of this whole race is just too strong. For example Heroes are the most important unit in the Game and too loose them is like almost always a big disadvantage ( the higher the lvl the more) and to go for hero focus against an ud army is really hard to execute especially against happy.He just perfected this race and abuses it's strength the most. And the strength is in my opinion the survivability of the whole ud army compared too any other race.( Statues, coil, movement speed) And on top of that ud has a very easy way to execute kills with coil nove and orb focus fire which makes the survivability of the opponents race army even worse and hero focus pretty easy. Happy will dominate as long as they wont change the core strength of this army or that many smaller nerfs hit ud( or buffing the other races significantly) If there was a player on the same micro and macro skill level as happy on another race ... happy would still win. 75 mana to choose if you wanna deal dmg or heal. Just imagine paladin could holy light any race for dmg and devotion aura would give movement speed. Its really hard to kill dk even though he seems more like a support hero.. he is still a strength hero so very hard to kill. I could go on and on about Ud. This is not only happys skill its the combination of the core strength of the ud army and how well Happy executes it. He couldn't do it with any other race like he does with ud . He even says it himself that ud is the strongest race and that's why he plays it. And I say this all as an Ud player... for the health of the Game. And ah yes regarding the survivability of ud army... ud heroes can stay very long in the fight and deal constant dmg while doing 1coil nova on a hero + a little focus fire and hes out of the fight and has to back up while ud heroes can push for more. And this weakens the opponent army a lot. Just imagine a Dh with a paladin... would be the same principle. And thats why triple human heroes with good lvls are soo good against ud and so feared bcs it has the same yeah maybe even a bit more power in healing, unit(hero)- focus than the ud army but it's very hard to get too these lvls and the ud units are in most cases just a better version off the human units. That's what I think about Ud and it's only my opinion though. I love Wc3 and would want it too improve. But yeah still much love to everyone who's still enjoying warcraft 3 :).
At 6:20 caster named all the builds available to NE (ffs the are like 5 or 6 viable) and yet they cheere tha ghoul build isnt viable any more.... One of 2 possible UD builds not viable cause of patch. W for Happy, L for balance and casters.
Checking the in-game time, somehow a Bo7 is shorter than some Bo3s in this tourney.
Why is he versing Ted at the end?
Because this is Ted Cup.
@@Guillidan What does it mean? The winner of each match plays against a person named Ted?
@@Rugarus Bingo
But yet you still can vote for Moon as the GOAT, but can't vote for Happy, right b2w, huh?
@@L30B055 True. But speaking of b2w - I don't understand why do they do it? This just doesn't make any sense...
@@zukunftverstehen they voting for the second place, it's obvious
Why does NE vs. UD always feel like an uphill battle for the NE?
it's an uphill battle vs happy. balance isn't the issue here.
Happy speed running again.....
♥ Grand Final ... HaHa :D
♥ HAPPY #TOP LEGEND 1 ♥
Мой любимый файт....💪👊🤛✊Happy vs Moon
Это мое любимое уничтожение. Почти всегда в сухую. Кому-то пора на пенсию, а Кахо пусть учит другие страты и займет достойное место со своим 400апм среди топов.
@@Mikall322 да он просто мало играет,хепи задрот лютый…
Nice feed after game...
I think moon is a paid actor 😂
Best HEPPY!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy always plays well if not the best whereas Moon is very inconsistent.
Mana burn to lvl1 full mana Naga when DK and Lich is in the range was a joke.
Come on. It is so frustrating to watch him being so amateur as a fan of Moon.
What a disappointing final ...
ATR is so much better then melee wc3 >_>
Moon hands slow now. 600/700 gold in early game making nothing and not expanding
I feel like Moon is kinda like Tom Brady at this point, and I mean that in the most respectful way.
I mean he got to the final didn't he?
@@jensclarberg6419 lol fair point! :D
WTF was the last game
Disastrous game for Moon
Nerf immolation
Lmfao nerf immolation? Nerd UNDEAD again lmaoooo
@@MaxTheDev-f6t this is the way
Raise CD of coil of 1 sec please
cry koreans. 4-0
Easy win 😎
Happy monster 💪🏻
In the bin XD
Level 1 unholy aura still faster the. DH with boots? Makes no sense
I mean he is riding a horse hahaha
boots gives more speed than aura lvl 1. 50/320 = +15.625% ms to dh.
Spoiler.
Uhh, looked like Moon's energy-motivation moonwell was all dried up...
What the actual bolaks.
I'm not a fan of the first game... super weird behavior by Moon. Trolling ? I'm cheering for Happy always, but I hate if people are throwing games like that...
2 out of 4 games are really bad. But other 2 were thrown off too easily
gg
Oh god this grand final is SO BAD AND DISAPPOINTING
the video length spoils it again... anyway I don't think Happy played well but Moon definitlely played badly
Remo and undead players are very happy. Undead domniates all game as we see top 5 players in wc3, there are 3 undead players. After game, remo still says " oh happy played and dominated the game very well." I just want to ask you Remo, " How many times Night elf is nerfed after moon dominated against all players in old times ? " 2 patches, 3 or 4 patches. Expo nerfed, talon nerfed... I already deleted wc3 from pc. Keep having fun with this garbage game. I have never seen unbalanced stuff in any game. 1 nerubian tower can defens all. Awful game, the DEAD GAME. Thanks for everything Back2Warcraft crew.
Troll bait, see you again in next video with different account perhaps
More cry
how many mistakes can Ne in general and Moon in particular make while winning? look at the game, these are completely different levels of unit control. Nerf Ne plz
@@Mikall322 NE always must make 10 times more effort than undeads.
@@hesoyam97320 you have nothing to do with eSports Warcraft and allow yourself to argue who should do what and how much. TH, Infi, Tgw switched to elves because they are an unbalanced race. Lawliet 200apm fights on equal terms with Lyn and Happy 450-500apm. this comment doesn't make sense
Happy think I’m best, yes he good gamer no problem, but Moon can be better than he, Moon have to change his mental because he lose versus Happy only mental position.
Demon hunter first doesnt work against Happy only noobs. Stoo playing demon first
Bo7 in one hour pff not worthy to watch
week shi* Moon