The LDS Temple Endowment | Roots in Freemasonry?
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- In this video, we dive into the intriguing history of the LDS Temple Endowment ceremony and its surprising connections to Freemasonry. We'll explore the origins of the endowment ceremony as it was first introduced and examine the similarities between certain Masonic rituals and handshakes practiced during that same time.
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Temple worker here (post changes). 00:59:39 - They don't do the oil anymore in the washing...it's just water now. They also don't touch the various parts. It's all done with hands on the head and they just say all the other body parts. "I bless your eyes that you may see, I bless your ears that you may hear...I bless your loins that you may be fruitful and multiply...etc."
I was 100% touched naked all over with the oil when I first went through. ZERO forewarning or knowledge of what was happening. No informed consent.
You are correct! They have made lots of changes to the ceremony!! This video was only covering the ceremony when it was first introduced. We will be covering the changes and current ceremony in future videos! And it is great to have the perspective of a temple worker after the changes! Thank you for commenting!
@@thelastgoonie6555 It's too late. Mt female butch temple worker crossed the Rubicon and assaulted me by disturbingly touching my nipple and public hair. I was nude and that "poncho" was designed to make the wearer feel naked and vulnerable, without the requisite informed consent. That greased up crazy lady wouldn't stop when I backed away and she looked into my eyes as she rubbed my sexual organs as though she was going to assert full control over MY naked body WITHOUT MY CONSENT and she absolutely knew what she was rubbing, making little greasy circles on my skin. The temple is a repulsive place where sexual assault is normalized. Might as well be a shrine to adulterous predators, oh wait, it is the "great and spacious buildings" of Mormon lore and Fandom.
Wow spot on. But it's all too much anymore! I had my name and LD$/Auschwitz number removed ! A regular here from Holy of Holy 😅
It's still a wee drop of oil on the head in our Edmonton Alberta temple initiatory.
I was also touched all over
without forewarning. Not ok!!
Thank you guys for bringing this mess to light
You are welcome! I am glad you enjoyed the video!
@@BehindTheVeilOfficial I did! Big time! It's disturbing!!! but VERY informative. Thanks again
@@natles9880 ditto!
This is one of the issues that shattered my faith...that the so-called saving ordinance of endowment is a copied Masonic ritual
@@michaelparks5669And what rites would those be? Cause from what I understand, the jews did not perform endowments either, which would be proof against Joseph Smith.
Also, Joseph never restored anything. The Book of Abraham shows without a shadow of a doubt that Joseph was not a prophet and did not have any ability to restore anything. Nor did he have the ability to translate.
Why are you saying that this other person has blocked your comments? They have no control over anything that happens on this account! Also, the book of Abraham is a fantastic example of a mistranslation from Joseph. Actual scholars have translated the same scroll that Joseph claimed to translate, and it does not match at all.
@@michaelparks5669 I never deleted you post. TH-cam has a problem where it hides certain posts unless you hit the newest button on the comments. It happens to me all the time. What actually happened was I saw your second post, opened up the newest tab, and responded.
The teaching 'method' was lifted wholesale from the craft....however, the meanings given are considerably different. Kind of like our sacrament meeting s are very similar to other churches. Just a format....
here is the other side to the story: th-cam.com/video/7D8t67X7FC0/w-d-xo.html. rituals in terms of structure and appearance can be similar as not to make something weirder than what people already think. masonic rites are things done in fraternity devoid of the name of Christ. the temple's rituals are centered around creationism and Christ's redeeming sacrifice. let's think here... a lot of your liberal mouthpieces are masons and yet you claim masonry is as bad as you think it is
New sub here!! Thanks to MICHAEL PARKS complaining about how you are skewing the truth.. but I see truth without the smoke and mirrors!! Thank you!! 😊.. and THANK YOU MICHAEL PARKS AKA CAPTAIN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE HE'S BLIND
The GREEN & GOLD Ball every year when we were teens.. wear’n the green and subtle prepping
THATS REALLY WHAT ITS ABOUT???!?! I feel like such a bad ex Mormon sometimes lol!!
@@01inarow dang, I remember them. Learned something new, for sure!
Omg! I thought that was a government ball.😂😂 I guess if you were raised in UTAH it is!!
Can someone teach Michael Parks some breathing exercises, he really out here clogging up the comments being a crazy person 😩 someone come get him please
@@michaelparks5669 Michael please seek psychiatric help sweetie, spiritual psychosis is a real thing 😅 have you got supportive friends and family? I really recommend seeing your doctor if this happens a lot.
@@michaelparks5669 I don’t have the power to delete your comments, but believe me, I wish I did 🫶🏻
@@michaelparks5669 Just because you are into huffing your own farts, doesn't mean WE want what you like.
Mike, we are going to be besties since you keep posting on all my favorite exmormon podcasts. This is your moment to feel thrilled that you have a fan.. I folded the paper and am wafting my farts your direction since that's your thing, Mike.
@@SmoreLegend I'm not sure he can be helped. He's a lonely soul because nobody wants what he's advertising. I decided somebody has to be his new best buddy even if it means sending him farts in a jar because he's literally begging for negative attention, you're welcome!!
@@michaelparks5669 What is wanted??
Its crazy to think that there are a lot of prominent families that are LDS, its crazy to think they would’ve all gone through this process some even before some of the language would’ve changed. The Romney’s, Steve Young and his family, The Marriotts, The Osmonds. I mean I can only assume they would have maybe they didn’t? As a never mormon this blows my mind lol
I might have missed it, but did you cover "Pae Lay Ale?"--the original temple Adamic language before 1990? That one's hilarious too...No translation offered for it.
We were not able to make it to Pae Lay Ale due to time constraints. But we would love to cover it in the future! Thank you for reminding me about it!
As a current member distancing myself from church beliefs, I found this video very enlightening. I knew we took things from the masons but didn't know to what extent. However, after watching hundreds of videos regarding polygamy, I don't believe anymore that Joseph practiced it but despised it. Even until 1844, he was defending himself in court against it, and excommunicating certain others for practicing it. I now feel free to believe him at his word. He has no posterity other than from Emma, and the plural wives of church leaders had much to lose if they didn't prove polygamy was from God. Their case was thrown out.
Also I believe Emma, Joseph III and Lucy Mack Smith. They all insisted that Joseph had nothing to do with it until their deaths. Brigham was a scoundrel, changing records to support his New and Everlasting Covenant of plural marriage. He likely also had Joseph killed to get him out of the way. I believe it was an inside job. A good channel to watch on polygamy is Michelle Stone's 132 Problems. A good one to learn about the inside job is Justin Griffin's Who Killed Joseph Smith's video.
Idk, what do you make of the journals of joseph smiths plural wives attesting to Joseph teaching them the secret teaching of celestial plural marriage?
Considering all the evidence, the simplest answer is joseph just was a liar and publicly distanced himself from it because he knew there would be backlash.
@@thethathen If Joseph was not a liar or pedophile, wouldn't you want to know? Everyone wants to keep throwing him under the bus, believing Brigham over him. They can't both be right. The evidence is heavy on the opposite side, as I mentioned. Brigham spent much time and effort changing church history to fit his polygamy narrative. I believe the wives were in on it, or at least did as they were told. The affidavits are problematic and came all at once years after Joseph's death when they needed to prove they had a right to the temple lot. Many of them weren't signed, and things said were proved to not be true. The judge threw out the case for insufficient evidence. Here's a really great video if you want to understand better: th-cam.com/video/F5heXE5xS5w/w-d-xo.html
The Bible mentioned there being upper chambers in Solomon's temples.
Scholars have debated what these upper chambers were used for (which also included another veil), but there is no consensus.
Now I don't claim to know either. But you have to at least allow for the possibilities of other ordinances the Bible does not mention.
I guess I have always been a rebellious Mormon with a temple recommend. I always felt my husband and I were partners. We both took the lead in whatever we were good at.
Correction: women must wear a dress with long sleeves to the wrist. This picture is not quite accurate. 😮
You are correct! They do have longer dresses and sleeves. It's just nearly impossible it find an accurate image of the actual temple clothes.
I like your guys take - this is all just SO covered - but good on you to realize Christianity is nothing like mormonism - as to babies and bath waters - remember to the the facts and logic all the way - there is indeed one true Church, the Catholic Church, according to Jesus.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!! And it is true! This topic has been covered quite a bit! We are just going through topics more or less in timeline order! But again, I am so glad you enjoyed it!
@@paulhallett1452 the Catholic church isn paying taxes or drowning pedophiles. You are wrong. Catholic priests have been molesting kids for about seventeen hundred years. Jesus insisted on drowning BEFORE molesting kids. When 1/20 priests are sexual predators AND the entire religion refuses to incarcerate criminals, they are the antiChrist.
@@paulhallett1452 Jesus never made a single claim about the Catholic church because he was dead for three hundred years 2hen the Roman Emperor took over the belief to tax the globe. It was about controlling the population of the earth and absolute greed.
The Catholic church, you must be joking 🤣
They do not remove clothing anymore. You stay in your temple clothing the whole time.
That is true! This video was only talking about what it was like when it was first introduced. We will cover the current ceremony in future episodes. But I appreciate you commenting and letting me know!!
@@jodeanmay8844 bs, the butch touched my nip with her greasy fingers as she made oil circles on my boobies and into my short curlies. Too late. They crossed the Rubicon!! THIS MEANS SCORCHED EARTH!!
You skipped over Hyram Abiff. He is the first Master Mason. Who is Hyram Abiff? The Testament/ Treatise of Solomon, are not The Book of Solomon in the Bible. When Masons refer to “The Craft” what are they referring to? The Magic…. What is that Magic? Solomonic Magic.
William Morgan’s book was not finished. It was only 116 pages. Elder David Brainard finished it. Brainard says, I took his book copied it word for word, and filled in the parts he left out. It’s a stunning book. He also talks about Morgan’s Murder. He names some of the Mormon Founders. So does Solomon Southwick in his book crazy stuff. Great episode.
I am glad you enjoyed the episode! Thank you so much for letting me know about Hyram Abiff, I did not find that during my research! I'll have to loop back around in the future and cover that!!
@@BehindTheVeilOfficial I could tell you read the Bible instead of the Testament, when you said Solomon is not involved. Be prepared tho. Reading old literature causes shelves to really break. The entire movement is about Solomon, and restoring his Temple. You will see. Read The Testament of Solomon. You may get some answers to the Abrahamic religions as well as Masonry. William Morgan calls it The Church of Masonry…. lol. Fascinating stuff.
@@TheMormonAtheist Solomon is only involved when it comes to excusing adultery. Men with thinking errors like to believe they are on par with a bronze-age king.. thinking errors is fancy for mental illness and criminal minded individuals who wants to "follow the prophet" into underaged panties.
Good info. Need to work on the audio. Female is Way louder, hard to listen, had to keep adjusting my volume
I am so sorry to hear that!! I will definitely make sure the audio is fixed in future videos
“Holy of Holies” is a special (man only) place in Ethiopian monasteries. They are Coptic Christians. I’ve toured there. Fascinating!
The initiatory is extremely conservative now. No body touching except hands are placed on your head and a blessing follows. Water is put on one spot on your forehead and a drop of oil on the crown of your head.
How much is an apartment on Kolob?
10% on the gross from the time you are eight years old to death fo us part with our money fir the Latter-day horde that is the Latter-day golden calf 😅
@@michaelparks5669 kel-oob'
Parts of SpeechNoun Masculine
K@lub Definition
cage, basket, dog cage
Google is your friend.
@@michaelparks5669 Hebrew קרב qereb, qarob “near, interior, heart,” as in theophoric Hebrew קרוב Qarob “The-Near-One” (Psalm 119:151 ∥
@@michaelparks5669 ah... I see... and what is the center of the universe? Do I need to be wearing special underwear to know the location?
@@michaelparks5669 your claims don't match with any Bible references because there us no such think as "Kolob" in the new (iron age mythology) or old (bronze age mythology) testaments of the Bible and Kolob and your rendition "k'lob" is not a word or term in Hebrew, Mike. Try again, but this time you have to sell me on an idea that can't be easily dispelled with a simple internet search.. which brings me to my point; the internet is the demise of Mormon mythology. It is interesting to witness the fall of religious institutions by science and facts. It is similar to the fall of Rome, but with tapiers!!
@behindthevail what’s up with comments? They are being instantly deleted?
I have no idea!! I have not deleted a single comment from my side!!
@@BehindTheVeilOfficial weird. Maybe check your comment settings.
I have, nothing is being held for review and everyone's comments are showing up on my end. I have seen several of your comments where you have said the same thing and I assume you did that since it appeared that your comments were being deleted. I may have to reach out to TH-cam about this one.
Joseph Smith didn’t do this. It all came from Brigham Young and his cohorts.
I respectfully disagree, several of the quotes we used in the video specifically mention Joseph Smith taking part in this ceremony. We found this in Oliver Cowdery's sketch book and Heber C Kimball's journal. Also even if it did come from later prophets you still got to admit the ceremony is very weird and almost identical to Masonry when it was initially introduced.
Why don’t you think JS started this? The temples were started by JS. JS said the endowment “was from heaven and would never change”. They did endowments and even second anointing for most members before leaving to UT
@@TheSaintelias Temple endowments weren't performed at all in the Kirkland Chapel. JS was given a deadline by God to complete the Nauvoo Temple before more would be revealed to him concerning this. He didn't make the deadline and in fact was murdered by the polygamists before it was completed, as such didn't receive the further knowledge. Brigham Young and other polygamists leaders kinda finished the Nauvoo temple and started doing the masonic ordinances there before going west but they changed the "New and Everlasting Covenant" to mean polygamy instead of the true meaning. When they went west about 40% of the members went with them, but the majority stayed behind. See 132 problems videos by Michelle Brady Stone; WKJS by Justin Griffin; videos by Rob Fotheringham; Whitney Hornings book. These are excellent sources for the research that has been done from the Joseph Smith Papers and others to get to the truth.
@@brickmasonrosey I have seen Michele stones videos. Her like many others think JS didn’t do polygamy. I order to do that you have to ignore all the journals and statements of women involved. Also, land deeds, and the statements in the expositor. Either way, if one believes it all started with Brigham then it still leads to the church being a made up bullshit doctrine. God either started a religion and couldn’t keep it going or it fell away after JS. It’s still fun to discuss the falicy of Mormonism.
@@brickmasonrosey J.S, instituted and practised the new and everlasting covenant. He had 20 plus plural wives some as young as 14, in fact, according to church history, Emma was sealed to him after 20 other women, making her lucky number 21
Dang, Michael is mad you keep deleting his posts
He really is. The funny part is I haven't touched his comments. But he can think whatever he wants
I have answered almost everything in this comment in another one of your comments. Also, I never said there was an endowment in Masonry, I said the LDS endowment was inspired by Masonry rituals at the time. Also, most of your questions in this comment have already been addressed in a different one of your many comments.
@@michaelparks5669 DID SOMEBODY POOP IN YOUR PUNCHBOWL, CAPTAIN ALL CAPS??
@@michaelparks5669
@@michaelparks5669 you are demanding negative attention.. again.
watch the catch?
No they just touch your head now. They don't touch you other places.
That is true! This video was only talking about what it was like when it was first introduced. We will cover the current ceremony in future episodes. But I appreciate you commenting and letting me know!!
@@BehindTheVeilOfficial ya I was just trying to answer the question if in the washing and anointing they changed things. So yes they did. I went through in 2006 they changed more things since then. I haven't been for a few years now but I have heard they changed covenanting to your husband now it's to the new and everlasting covenant not to your husband. And harkening to the counsel of God.
@@corinnefowler4095 The butch touched my "other places" so it's too late to take it back. They don't believe in boundaries.
@@corinnefowler4095 that's why the Bishop will ignore wives begging fir help against their cheating husbands because unless he admitted it happened, it didn't.
Oh c'mon. This is all symbolic not meant to be literal.
It doesn't matter if Joseph copied Masonic rituals or found them written on the back of a cereal box.
He was the prophet and president of the church and the Lord's annointed servant.
He had been given the sealing powers of heaven and had every right and full authority to implement the revelations of God anyway inspiration would lead him.
Cool story. I'll stick with scripture thank you very much
@@thethathen So said the Pharisee
@@jamesbaldwin7676 lol no that's what Christ said. He condemned the pharasees for adding non-scriptural traditions
@@thethathen The Pharisees also rejected Jesus based upon their scripture. You reject revelation today, in favor of what was written 2,000 years ago. I freely admit to being a "TBM" but you qualify as a TBP (lol).
@@jamesbaldwin7676 cool, so we are both pharasees in different ways then. That doesn't change the fact joseph clearly faked the book of Abraham, and thus is clearly a false prophet.
First of all, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Okay, what exactly did I get wrong in this video? I will make corrections as needed
@@shireecox122 second of all, I don't care about what you believe.
@@BehindTheVeilOfficial You got it right since you struck a nerve and playing it like AC/DC Thunderstruck!!
Brigham young introduced the endowment
I respectfully disagree. If you read Oliver Cowdery’s journal he says Joseph introduced it. Even the Church's official site says he introduced it. Brigham Young may have added stuff (like the oath of vengeance) but Joseph introduced it. "Joseph Smith later introduced a temple ordinance he also called an endowment" www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/endowment-of-power?lang=eng
Brigham Young and Heber C Kimball wrote the endowment down in Saint George Utah
Then why does the website say Joseph introduced it? And even if it was written down later, that doesn't mean Joseph didn't introduce it.
I don’t get how one cult can call out another cult. There is no evidence of a “god”. Sorry, folks, but we are animals, and a sorry species.🙂
Boohoo sounds like some disgruntled people. So funny
None of this is secret, as it’s all online. But I hope there is forgiveness to you apostates in the next life not for revealing things, but for mocking the Lord.
@@danielcamino3759 it was horseshit since it's nefarious inception, Danny-boy.
@@danielcamino3759 the first step in leaving the Mormon church is viewing exmormon podcasts! Congratulations 👏 you took the first step!!
How is comparing ceremonies mocking the Lord? Also, you are correct. These are all found online! We never said that they weren't. We said that these were hidden from others at the time the endowment was put into place. Now they are on the internet. And we don't need forgiveness from Mormon God. We're good without that
We don't mock the LORD.
Joseph. actually dismissed the LORD and refined HIm , have you read the King Follet Discourse by Joseph Smith?
Compare it to
Isaiah 43.10,11
Isaiah 44.6-8
Isaiah 45.5,
Isaiah 9.6
John1.1-3
John 1.14
Phillipians2.6-11
John8.58
Revelation 22 .13
John.4.24
John 20.28
Romans 1. 21-23
Joseph wanted to be a god , so he diminished God and redefined
God as a god so he could evolve into one. He was a sorcerer, and an Occultist. He lied . The leaders know and lie about the history as well. 😞
Come back to the Biblical Historical Jesus the Christ who truly has the power to Save!!✝️🙏❤️🔥
@@danielcamino3759 one month and still nobody likes your post. Good job!!
The temple cermony is for instruction purposes and that's it. It's liturgy meant to teach. And anyone who thinks it comes from masonry has clue about history. 😂