Flashback: Nokia N97 - the "iPhone killer" that helped kill Nokia instead
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- Welcome to The Flashback - the series where we capture a moment of mobile history. Today we’re taking a look at one of the best Nokia Symbian devices of the day - the Nokia N97.
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I still have this phone, I was so hyped when it was announced and bought it day one. The camera was really great for that time, felt like a great upgrade for me going from Nokia 6600 to N97!
I wonder what you owns now a days
me too
@@nikkoinutan973 is he gonna reply soon?
Surely an iPhone
@@jaivijh7947 Sorry didn't check my notifications 😅 Now I have the Xiaomi 9T Pro
I love these Flashbacks!
They always show me what I miss in today's phones:
- Expandable Storage
- Removable Battery
- Compact devices
- No Notches or Punch holes
- Headphone Jacks
And when people hasn't a phone addiction
Why would you miss a removable battery? Besides there are many compact devices out there today with headphone jacks and expandable storage eg. Samsung s10e
Removable battery is now a security vulnerability. A thief now has to open the phone to disconnect the battery, or it would keep transmitting the eSim, & Location data.
@@KB-ce5sh It's an easy reason. You don't need to keep close to a power outlet in order to be able to charge. If the phone runs out of power simply pop the back cover off and snap in a new battery. For many people battery anxiety is a very real thing, this was something you didn't have to worry about with removeable batteries.
@@nathanjuan6042 Your phone's battery will lose battery capacity after some usage. Having a removable battery doesn't shrink the capacity this much.
1. It's better for the environment
2. It makes it possible to carry a spare battery with you
3. You could eliminate charging time by simply using the full battery and charging the empty one.
4. The batteries will have a longer lifespan
5. You won't run into complications once your battery degraded.
The only thing that sank Nokia was its software.
NOKIA N series was a huge success like N72.
The reason behind Nokia loss is Stephen elope.
It was, before a more advance OS like iOS and Android came. They experimented with linux-esque OS but then they dropped it.
@@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh they had Meego OS, which is very advanced. But they retro-fitted N9 with WP7 instead.
I still have one N72 completely working but useless now.
@@Safar-dx7bw It can no longer connect to 2G/3G network?
I had this phone back in 2010 and I remember throughly enjoying the device! It of course was no iphone killer because of the resistive touchscreen and limited apps, but having a fullblown qwerty keyboard was a premium luxury back then and I loved it!
S60 was such a beast at its era compared to java based sony Ericssons, but it clearly cannot compete with iOs
Symbian Belle and Anna looked really good though.
@@MsMRkv Android and iOS copied lot from those two versions
Java based SE isn't so bad, it's still a lot better than overpriced Nokia's S40 phones
It was always better on non touch screens but it worked pretty well on my n8
@Linh Nguyen 4 and symbian is starting to deteriorate at the time this phone is released
The interview was talking about how Nokia didn’t put enough RAM in the device to run apps. At this time, all apps had to sequence off the internal memory, and the software “fix” was to move as much of the OS to the exterior memory (not the expandable memory as this was different) as possible to make room to keep applications from either crashing or having an error when trying to installing them. This is why the N97 mini existed.
When the news hit that an MS exec was steering Nokia into the Windows Mobile platform, I knew this was gonna break their neck.
Totally agree, I feel and this is just my own conspiracy theory, that Steve Palmer infiltrated nokia just to put windows mobile on the market.
Will always have a special place in my heart 💜 dad's last phone before I lost him 💜
Bought in 2009. Still have this! 😍
KILLER Title!😂👍🏻
Still having this one
Was using it back in 2010
But we gotta admit, it was waaaay more exciting before when Nokia ruled the land (Europe and Asia)
Even smartphones of the time were pretty exciting as well! Blackberry, Palm Treo, and Nokia smartphones were replacing the palm pilot and windows PDAs. Lots of experimentation with interfaces, keypads, and foldables.
People could type on T9 so quickly haha.
@@yensteel
Indeed. Now phones either look like iPhone or Samsung nowadays. Good thing they are now doing foldables to differentiate between generic, clone phones.
SOOOO true.
Much more innovation when Nokia was Nokia.
No mater what, they were BEASTS in innovation. They had phones in almost every single form factor.
Now no one is bold enough to make a phone that's not similar to the iPhone's form factor.
@@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh at least they're playing with colours a lot now.. it's fun! some way to differentiate, and much better than 2017 when everything was silver, space gray or gold
@@archismarathe1589 Yup but only a matter of months before everyone else is doing the same colors or shades.
Loved this phone. 32gb was a luxury at the time, had a perfectly working nes / mega drive emulator which was great to use on the keyboard and the built in FM transmitter was a bonus. Truly a great phone, shame mine fell to bits.
This form factor should come back in a phone with Desktop mode.
Check out the planet computers astro slide..
I remember really liking this phone because it had an actual keyboard. It was only when my friend showed me his iPhone that I realised that a whole new smart phone era had begun.
Same here.
Yeah I loved the keyboard design but I realised that typing on the screen was much faster plus it had word prediction.
Excellent, fun and informative video. More of these👍
i remember going to school and watch movies with this phone in high school 😅. actually it was a great phone in it's time.
Cool series 😍, thank you will and gsmarena team.
I was in high school when that phone came out. I always wanted N97 but couldn't afford one. Now I have a Samsung s23 ultra and when I got it the excitement was less than when I saw N97 for the first time in 2008 in the shop.
great topic and enjoyable to watch through!! well done, very appreciated
i still have the N96 when N97 came out and i really wanted it at that time. but something was off about it so i didn't bought it. a few years later i jumped into the touchscreen bandwagon with the samsung galaxy note 1, and the rest is history. i still keep my N96 though but it's already broken. a very memorable phone. one of the best i ever had.
They have Maemo OS and MeeGo OS that were really capable to compete with android and ios at that time. But instead of that, they ditched everything and went with Windows Mobile.
yep. i had the N900 which was a good phone that ran maemo
Now on android no one takes Nokia phone`s seriously
@@emmanuelmamhere3718 true. they made wrong decisions and stick with it for too long. Customers already have other brand on their list.
@@keiko909 yup. To be honest the ui/animation looks better than android at that time.
I think they should have gone that route before making S60 touch, but it was already too late when they realized S60 was doomed. Can you imagine every phone today running N9's MeeGo instead of Android ? At the time Android had horrible design and responsiveness, but having Google support was key. Also, Google may had still blocked some services like they did on Windows Phone or like in some Amazon devices today.
This series sould be done more frequently
TheMrNokia literally does that and while i love gsmarena they are pretty much just copying his videos on nokia devices
This is great. + maybe videos like most sold phones of 200x - 20xx. And also another idea, least serviced/issue phones etc. Or the flagship killers like oneplus 6 and MI 9t...
I paid a lot for mine - then the camera cover scratched the lens and ruined all photos. It was fixed under warranty and I sold it going back to a 5800 XM.
I remember that being a problem.
I had my N91 back in 2006 when it was released. It has the most beautiful sound even up to this day.
Man, GSM savage with the titles
And misleading. Gsm used to be a lot more accuratr
Man this phone felt so good. The earphones were just crazy high quality for that time!
The Nokia N800 was a true iPhone killer in the shadows but they never produced enough of them and barely promoted them.
It was nothing short of amazing but meant to be a niche browsing device. From a series of N-series "internet tablets" (this was pre-iPad so it wasn't a well defined term yet) debian based linux distro called Maemo, for the N900 the biggest change was that they added phone capability but it was actually designed to be a browsing device (it had Firefox on it and was capable of rendering Flash). Which accidentally made an amazing smartphone experience!
The biggest mistake was that their next CEO never properly pursued it's follow up: the Nokia N9 with Meego, the successor of Maemo, as they decided to focus smartphone efforts on Windows Phone (and cheap entry level "Asha" smartphones on Symbian).
Best analyser, no drama no overacting only quality information and tech news
Meanwhile its false bias information. I'm going to guess this guy is one of the main reasons for the misleading bias articles on gsm lately
Awesome content guys!
I guess the only Nokia that could have competed with iPhone and Androids, before the windows phone devices was the N9. Even today it still looks so fresh, different and interesting. It's really a shame Nokia ditched Meego and went with Micro$oft...
I would've loved a proper Linux-based successor to N900.
Not really sure. When it comes to OS, I guess SailfishOS is the natural successor, and comes close to the standard of MeeGo, but not quite there. As for the hardware... Probably quite a few phones. But the whole package? Really nothing.
Liked the Flashbacks more of these please i had a Nokia N95 back in the day
Enjoyed the video. Nicely done.
Omg... I still have this in my collection, still can be used and still look like new.
Please make more of this. ❤️
I had this phone and I loved it. The keyboard was so good to use
Dunno about nokia or iphone but that OASIS t shirt is just DOPE dude!
You tell the story so well, thanks for the history lesson, although I lived through it I didn't realize it was do bad but now it's obvious
That acting of “disappointment” at the last part lol
Really appreciate the info!
I owned Nokia N97 Mini back then.
Loved its keyboard opening, slide it and it opens up a different world!
Can you cover Blackberry and Palm as well? Was really excited about the Palm Pre back in the day. The Sony Ericsson P800 to P1 were such cool phones as well.
5:58 that's what really killed Nokia. If they partnered with Android instead of windows, things might be a lil different today.
If they would have just finished and released their linux os (Maemo or Meego) things would be different. Android was not good till around 2011, before that it was less stable than Symbian.
@@matthewmers4247 exactly. Meego was better than ios and Android of that time. They should've just gone with developing it more.
Youre right
@Amiel Spencer Borejon That's true, Windows Phone had iPhone responsiveness (maybe due to its simple UI and initially high hw requirements ) and was miles ahead of Android. Even lower end WP Phones like the 620 or 520 were so fast, a mid range android of the time couldn't keep, android worked just acceptable on high end phones.
@Amiel Spencer Borejon Maybe it arrived too late, I think Windows Phone was introduced two or three years after android and iOS and devs were not interested due a lower market share, then I'm not sure, I really liked the platform but after Lumia 920 I had to go to iOS (as android was still lagging at the time )
Like the Oasis T-shirt 👏
I had a 5800 XpressMusic and love it, specially the touch keyboard. Seams odd, but with T9 enabled it was awesome to write really fast..and the resistive touch was very good to, nowadays it would suck, but when it launched most websites did not have a mobile version..the stylus made easy work of that.
The only big issue with it was the apparent lack of build quality, it felt cheap.
Yes true, i used to connect my 5800 with TV using 3 pin wire.
These series are what keeps me from dying ...
Had it, loved it.
Absolutely always loved symbian.
Had A LOT of nokias, loved the pureview cameras. Stil got 10 pureviews layin around.
Nice vid 👌🏻
There is something unique in the narrator's manner of speech. I like it.
Thanks Bruh! I liked the review!
Anybody remember the trojan horse Stephen Elop?? 🤣🤣
"N97 had FM receiver....."
What about the FM transmitter?! That was pretty cool in car on those times!!
As an Oasis fan, I was immediately suprised when I saw Will wearing an Oasis t-shirt. It wasn't something I would've expected, especially as he's American 😂 well done!
You and I are gonna Live Forever 💖🎸😭
This and the Nokia N8 hold a really special place in my heart.
I had this one . It was great . Taught me so well
Great video! Just one thing I personally disagree with; I had the N97 Mini, and that physical keyboard was a joy to type on. It was way faster and more accurate than even on today's best smartphones (currently I have Galaxy S21).
exactly i had the same experience with xperia pro slider androids...
i miss that physical qwerty keybpard so much....
never had a typo back then.. now? i write like an asshole even after 3-4 years having almost the same iphone model😅
Yeah, took me years to not miss the keyboard after switching to Android. Now that you mentioned, I stll miss it.
Love the T-shirt! 💪
Ditching GPU hardware acceleration on the S60v5 phones was a complete mistake for Nokia. The N95 had it, and allowed all those cool apps and 3D stuff. This was the time where Apple was impressing with the hardware abilities of their phones, and Nokia just said "nah" on the N97.
Not just GPU if you look at n95 SOC it was supperior in every way imaginable.... first it was with n96 where they used cpu without gou and no floating point... Nokia was downgradinf their phones... I was nokia fan but even then I couldnt understand what the execs were thinking... ngage had demos for phones with GPU acceleration and then at the full release they were all killed... even phones like n95 were never trully used to the full potential... n95 is way more powerfull than n97... Nokia just went insane
Generally, Nokia's choices during that period were baffling to say the least: From the decision to use a resistive screen and a weak-sauce SoC without 3D acceleration in their flagship N97 to the decision to choose SymbianOS (of all OSes) as the go-to OS against iOS. And then when they finally got the memo that SymbianOS had to be put to pasture, they chose... Windows Phone. Meanwhile, a Nokia N900 and its more-than-capable OS was probably sitting on the CEOs desk since 2009 (assuming they didn't want to jump into Android). Amazing.
Fortunately I still have this nostalgic phone
I loveddd this phone when I had it. Especially the fm receiver which was always a lifesaver whenever there was no aux available.
I remember when the n95 came out everybody was hyped
In many ways, the ultimate Nokia, the ultimate phone, and some kind of culmination of the crazy 1998-2007 decade.
Yes I remember.
yeah i wear one everyday
I have it and my father used it till this winter. What a great phone it is!
Still have it lol
I had one of these, good camera and memory.
Great Video.
This was my first phone. The slide keyboard and camera were amazing
I miss this phone. The way it slid up was so cool. All the kids in my class would always ask me about it.
Hey I finally see you guys on youtube
I always end up on your site
I was a fan Symbian OS and the OVI 🥺
i owned this then upgraded to n900 afterwards. those were the days. love qwerty keyboards
I have 2 N900's still lying around somewhere. I wrote and compiled my first C program on the N900. It's a phone I'll never forget.
Good review
LOVE THE SHIRT! GONNA LIVE FOREVER!!!
One of my favorite phones of all times
I had it for 1.5 year . Back in the days
This was my first smartphone and my first mobile phone also. I used it for 4 years and changed it for the Galaxy S4 that I am still using today!
I almost forgot that I used to own N96 (the predecessor) back then. It was huge upgrade from N73 in terms of camera and display as well. Good ol days
Oohhh this is a good series
I loved N97 even bought it's successor the E7.
I would still use the E7 if it has latest processor and Android. The sliding Keyboard was just out of this world.
I stil sometimes take it out of drawer and pop the keyboard up and down and pretend to use it.
we got the same shirt Will! 🔥🔥🔥
This still is my most frustrating phone I ever owned. I was super hyped to get it, but once that screen touch function failed it was all downhill. Used to cry when touch didn't work, which was about 70% of the time. Was glad to get rid of it.
Thanks for the memories. Haha
I remember watching ads for this phone and thinking what ballers the people that owned these were. In my country it was crazy for anyone to purchase a phone as expensive as this one was.
Honestly I was never excited by an I phone. But the Nokia N series, boy! Although the software was basically the same for all Nokia devices at the time, but the quirky and mostly unique hardware design lent each device a unique character. Unfortunately the only N series devices I could own were the N73 Music Edition and the last model in the series, the N8. Have wonderful memories with both the devices. But I still regret not being able to own the N95. And also the 808 Pureview. Even though that wasn't technically a N series, but it was the virtual successor to the N8.
N8 ... N95... Loved these
I still have a working N97, E7 and a Lumia 1020 too. Although sadly they aren't the main phones I'm using right now.
Please do N93 , amazing phone back in 2006 for me , great camera for that time , and flex effect off the charts.
Make that Lumia phone review. I had one back in the day 😌
Totally cool. This is a brilliant idea showing off old pre smartphone or just pred 2010 phones. Cause these days all phones are the same = big screen, big battery, ips or oled, and Android all the same.
woow amazing king old is gold
i still have the nokia N80, E71, E90, and another one that gripped just like this phone, the N86. the good old times..
Before the Microsoft - Nokia partnership, Nokia created the successor of the Symbian OS, the MeeGo OS (was Linux based). Sadly the partnership killed the MeeGo OS for the sake of the Windows OS (which ended in a disaster for Nokia Mobile).
Fellow Oasis fan!!!! Live ferever, mate
My first 3G phone was NOKIA N70. I bought it second hand from my friend. That time N70 is superb phone
Absolutely loved my Nokia E61.
Meego was way ahead of its time Stephen Elop is the reason for Nokia’s fall not N97,remember N97 had a better sibling with linux based OS Maemo like android and iOS which was later updated and dubbed Meego, that OS had gestures and always on display when android phones had capacitive touch keys and iphone had homebutton,although yes the gesture crown and os crown from back then goes to palm android,ios and many other platform just stole everything from them even the recent most magsafe on iphone 12 lol
The last fantastic Nokia phone i had ( and have ) was E6, i miss those days!
Nokia from Giant to Ant
and the Nokia CEO still said, "We did nothing wrong."
@Mithrandir Android outperformed
@Mithrandir even back then, Nokia was still market leader untill 2012 followed by Samsung, and Android brands are still ahead of Apple.
@Mithrandir yes
@Mithrandir apple make the best phones back in the day
I love this channel 💗
I used to. But the bias misleading things like this that they have related lately are kind of putting me off
Can't forget my Nokia 6600 went hell from me, left from a washer, fell in a pail of water, and was thrown during my worst/moody days. Still, it's working. My nonna gave me N97. After years both of them are still working.
The lag and sluggish of this phone is astonishing
Wooo nostalgic phone and old friend🤩😍🥰☺😚
Imagine a weapon to use against your opponent that exploded on your face when you fired i0.
Yoo, that nokia camera is sick!
I had a Nokia N82. Loved that phone
my first phone back in 2012
it was a gameboy machine at the time, physical keyboard is sweet