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I love this story. I learned club swinging from my gymnastics coach in 1968. We were an all-girl group of 6 club swingers. Today I own a 1lb. pair of clubs and I remember most of the routines. Utube helps with the rest!
Unfortunately there is only one known piece of sword swinging footage, and it is of the most basic exercises. Hopefully something better will turn up in the future!
Really good video. However in your description you list Victoria's surname as Seddon, the same as in the newspaper clippings but in the photo, it's spelt, Sedden. Which spelling is correct?
Hi Tom, thanks for your kind comments. On the topic of her name, you know as much as I! It is spelled differently depending on the particular source. Because most of the news items use the Seddon spelling I have chosen to go with that one, but it's always possible they were wrong and the photo has the correct version. In either case, they are variations on the same original surname: "The name Sedden is of Anglo-Saxon origin and came from when a family lived in Seddon found in south-west Lancashire." (ancestry)
Also, there's no backstrap on the handle of the sabres in the first photo, so not standard pattern British military swords; this was a rarely seen "French" option, only available on private-purchase officers swords, so there's a good chance these were custom ordered/made specifically for swinging. A perfectly matched pair of no-backstrap "French" handled sabres would have to be a custom job, and wouldn't have been cheap! A company like Wilkinson could put together any combination of guard, handle and blade depending on their catalogue; the guard isn't the "gothic" three-bar, so could indeed be the Scroll hilt from the P1857, or maybe the Honeysuckle from the Cavalry Officers (can't see it properly), but you couldn't make any assumptions about the weight or balance of the blade from that.
Awesome, thank you for letting me know! I've often wondered if these sabers used for swinging were "specialized" or modified for the purpose, and this suggests that they indeed were.
It’s described around eight minutes into our video below on contests. They would be hand-fed food and drink, and shaven, while swinging. To relieve themselves they would go behind a curtain, but I’ve not yet read an account of how they were assisted in this last endeavor while swinging! th-cam.com/video/ksF4R4TEF2M/w-d-xo.html
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What a great concept for a channel. Looking forward to stories of all the great lifters.
@@eztvlight1202 thank you! 🙏 More to come!
Thank you for making a female athlete come alive again and not be forgotten in history. She sounds amazing and her name Victoria suits her title.
Very good point! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I love this story.
I learned club swinging from my gymnastics coach in 1968. We were an all-girl group of 6 club swingers.
Today I own a 1lb. pair of clubs and I remember most of the routines. Utube helps with the rest!
Long Live the Queen of Clubs, Victoria Seddon!
Excellent video Ben, really enjoyed watching it.
Thank you Paul!
WOW!!!!SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!❤
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent and informative. Thank you for putting a face back on her and her accomplishments.
Thank you for the kind words! :)
Nice find! Kuddos to the pianist as well!
Yes, their endurance was amazing!
Wow. Amazing athlete, I'd love to see some footage of the sword swinging aswell
Unfortunately there is only one known piece of sword swinging footage, and it is of the most basic exercises. Hopefully something better will turn up in the future!
So very interesting!
Thanks for the video!
I greatly enjoy your content!
This is truly becoming one of my favorite channels. Thank you for such wonderful presentations on physical culture history!
Many thanks for your very kind words! More videos are on the way! :)
Great video!
Thank you most kindly!!
Wonderful video Ben!! Just came across this
Awesome, thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!!
Amazing achievement, wow.
Thank you for this forgotten piece of history.
I'm impressed! Good video too. I'm enjoying these documentaries.
Thanks, so glad you are enjoying them!
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure! :)
Incredible
Thanks 🙏!!!
Amazing find :)
Thanks!
Amazing
Thank you! :)
45 hours, wow.
I can't even imagine!
Interesting
Really good video. However in your description you list Victoria's surname as Seddon, the same as in the newspaper clippings but in the photo, it's spelt, Sedden. Which spelling is correct?
Hi Tom, thanks for your kind comments. On the topic of her name, you know as much as I! It is spelled differently depending on the particular source. Because most of the news items use the Seddon spelling I have chosen to go with that one, but it's always possible they were wrong and the photo has the correct version. In either case, they are variations on the same original surname: "The name Sedden is of Anglo-Saxon origin and came from when a family lived in Seddon found in south-west Lancashire." (ancestry)
Victoria is amazing! And I would love to see who could beat her 45hours today!
I doubt there is anyone who could beat her today! :)
No video games, no public T.V. shows or internet...People were more creative with there time back then
Small quibble, P1857 is for Royal Engineers officers, not infantry. They look picquet weight.
Will look into it, thanks!
Also, there's no backstrap on the handle of the sabres in the first photo, so not standard pattern British military swords; this was a rarely seen "French" option, only available on private-purchase officers swords, so there's a good chance these were custom ordered/made specifically for swinging.
A perfectly matched pair of no-backstrap "French" handled sabres would have to be a custom job, and wouldn't have been cheap!
A company like Wilkinson could put together any combination of guard, handle and blade depending on their catalogue; the guard isn't the "gothic" three-bar, so could indeed be the Scroll hilt from the P1857, or maybe the Honeysuckle from the Cavalry Officers (can't see it properly), but you couldn't make any assumptions about the weight or balance of the blade from that.
Awesome, thank you for letting me know! I've often wondered if these sabers used for swinging were "specialized" or modified for the purpose, and this suggests that they indeed were.
How did she relieve herself?
Not sure…
How did these athletes swing clubs constantly without bathroom or hydration breaks?
It’s described around eight minutes into our video below on contests. They would be hand-fed food and drink, and shaven, while swinging. To relieve themselves they would go behind a curtain, but I’ve not yet read an account of how they were assisted in this last endeavor while swinging! th-cam.com/video/ksF4R4TEF2M/w-d-xo.html
@@PhysicalCultureHistorians Thanks for the info. Sounds awkward, lol.
Excellent work! Love those fat clubs!
How do they managed body fluids for such long time?
Attendants fed them drink as they swung!
I wonder if Victoria was of mixed parentage. That might speak to why she was determine the loser to the blond teen.
Yes, it’s very interesting to think about!
Sounds like crooked judges to me