Chapters 0:00 Prelude: A Song of Six Pence - the unfortunate story of the “girl in the pie.” 5:09 Introduction: Madison Square Garden, June 25, 1906 - The world is rocked by the murder of prominent New York architect Stanford White. 9:54 “I Am Not Crazy” - the arrest and indictment of Harry K. Thaw. 14:30 The Trial of the Century - the murder trial of Harry K. Thaw begins. 16:55 The Whole Truth - Evelyn Nesbit takes the stand and tells her story. 19:36 Benefactor - Evelyn meets Stanford White. 23:18 Tell No One - Evelyn is told to keep a secret. 26:28 The Millionaire’s Son - Pittsburgh millionaire comes into Evelyn’s life. 30:32 “Tell Me Everything” - Secrets are revealed. 34:34 Mrs. Harry K. Thaw - Evelyn marries. 37:57 MURDER - Harry Thaw takes his revenge. 42:34 Into the Fire - Evelyn is grilled on the stand by District Attorney Jerome. 50:25 Dementia Americana - Closing arguments. 54:43 DEADLOCK - The case goes to the jury. 57:33 Verdict - Harry Thaw learns his fate. 1:01:30 MADHOUSE - Harry is on the move and there a new addition comes into Evelyn’s life. 1:06:34 SANE - Harry’s status change. 1:09:45 Final Acts: “Don’t you know who I am?” - The unfortunate story of Fred Gump and the final days of a player. 1:24:09 The Eternal Question - Absolution for a chorus girl.
To my son Matt, you have proved me wrong again. Just as i think you can't get any better with your documentaries you come out with your latest. WELL, DONE son, you have made your old man proud again.
@@michelleduplooymalherbe2837 THANK YOU, Michelle. I want you to know that he has done this all on his own with no help from anyone. He never ceases to amaze me.
I have read extensively about the Thaw/ White/ Nesbit tragedy since I was in college in the '60s but this is unquestionably the best, most complete and compelling version of the story I have every found, and as a retired historian I am not easily impressed. Well done.
Amazing story and boardwalk empire closely mirrors this historical event but uses composite characters to tell the story all the way down to the way Nucky was shot on the boardwalk, only it was the grandson of the female victim that kills the person who tricked his grandmother when she was a child and sold her to the commodore who was the old fat man that raped her. Sorry for the long winded comment but this story is absolutely fascinating!
I'm only 15 minutes into this, but I'm really into this. ZERO stock unrelated photos. You've done actual research and dug up absolutely fascinating photos, sketches and drawings from the times of these occurrences. The script is excellent and riveting. The editing is spot-on. The narration is wonderful. I've been trying not to add any more subscriptions to my already-too-long list, but I must add your channel, as I must see your other work now. Kudos!
@@bigradwolf5001 Any stock photos he used are directly related to the subject of the video, for example the photo of the prison the perpetrator was held in. What I can't stand is when a creator of a video uses photos/video footage of entirely unrelated things. Such as narrating, "he was held in prison until the court date," and then showing a stock photo of some random prison somewhere that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. This video showed a photo of the actual prison, and I appreciate the effort. There are far too many creators out there that just throw random photos/video footage in there. Like for instance, "She then became pregnant with their first child," and then showing some random mother nursing some random baby. That's lazy, and far too many creators are doing it because it's quick and easy and helps them make money by allowing them to create a bunch of lazy videos very quickly. It drives me bonkers.
This is the first time I have heard this American greek tragedy. And the only need I have to hear it as you have laid out every detailed fabric & woven this story so flawlessly & completely. A brilliantly told documentary. Thank you it was fascinating to hear.
Terrific job on this doc! Great deep dive on the trajectory of their lives after the event. My grandfather was born 06’ the month White was shot, and I’ve always taken interest in the big story of the day.
‼️What I think is really sweet and that I haven't seen anyone mention is despite Evelyn's husband, Harry's, reputation as a Playboy he wasn't a terrible person. Her story made him cry and I'm sure he was genuine as he ended up killing that creep. Who knows how many girls he saved by killing him. I'm sure he knew the police would do nothing especially over someone so rich and famous. And I doubt anyone would believe Evelyn if she had come forward it would only ruin her own reputation. She only came forward to save her husband. But her husband just seems like such a good man. He truly seemed to love her and care about her. He was a good man and did it to protect her and protect her honor. That creep deserved way worse than what he got.
@@WhitneyDahlin no he wasn’t a good man! He beat Evelyn and young Fred. And he frequently went to brothels where he abused women. His money bought him out of being punished for his heinous acts
@@WhitneyDahlin Thaw was insanely jealous and competitive in all the wrong ways. ...and a pervert. "Couldn't get aroused except through abusing/torturing/beating his victims" (???)...Thaw was a sick puppy coddled by an overprotective and co-dependent mother. At least the architect White had talent and aspirations to bring beauty into the world ...however his "weakness" for young girls was literally his downfall after debauching 16 year old Evelyn Nesbit ...perhaps murder was not a fair judgement for debauching young girls ...or was it? Frankly, they both belonged in prison in an age when this sort of shady behavior was all too readily swept under the rug ...especially for men with money! It's true even today! Think how long movie producer Harvey Weinstein got away with abusing and sexually coercing young beautiful women. Sadly, it is a story as old as time. That doesn't mean we shouldn't seek justice against these abusers!!
This is phenomenal, I have done research on this subject in the past, but never expected to find such a greatly researched and presented piece. Thank you so much...you should win a TH-cam academy award.
Thank you. I had no idea! It's so SAD. I just turned 69. I was thinking about my own life as I listened. Not that there were any parallels but just memories. People are the same....
Masterful storytelling. Your voice is compelling, your pace perfect, and the visuals support the story so richly--and they show a great depth of research. So well done--kudos! New subscriber..
Wow! This is a truly spectacular documentary, Matt! Once again, hats off to you! Edit: The longer I’ve sat with this, the more astounded I’ve become. The twists and turns are perfect. I know this has already been turned into a movie, but this story is captivating and timely enough to be remade today-especially since we have the benefit of know how it all turned out. This is…wow. Truly, truly the best TH-cam has to offer and award-worthy in every way.
@@graveexplorations It's a great job! I watched as was looking for 'E.Nesbit' the English writer, this E.Nesbit is not the same person, but I was drawn in. Beautifully done, extremely professional..the images, the music, the editing, the narration.
THIS VIDEO IS TRULY A MASTERPIECE! I mean the facts themselves are a great platform for storytelling but your treatment and production and writing are honestly remarkable.
Excellent ! I was held captivated and spell bound to the very last word. This was better than any documentary I’ve seen by a major film production company. Thankyou for sharing your gifted talent through TH-cam, making it available to people like me.
This is absolute professional quality through and through. A remarkably accessible and engrossing retelling of a complex and twisting story with conflicting narratives. Brilliant.
After reading previous comments, I can only echo their praise. I have always heard of the story, but never felt compelled to find out more. Your presentation was amazing. I was caught up in the arch of the story from the first minute till the last. I actually feel I know the characters as they were in life. I consider this presentation as a true work of art. Thank you.
I have read everything I could get my hands on regarding Evelyn Nesbit. But this is by far the best documentary I have seen about her. I feel so bad for Evelyn. She was preyed on by everyone; White and Thaw alike. And shame on her mother for being so naive and not protecting her.
So often you see pictures of what was considered pretty girls or woman back in that time and I think not so much , but with Nesbit the opposite is true , there is one picture of her where she is absolutely Beautiful
I've seen a few things about this case as well as read a book about it. This is, by far, the best doc I've ever seen about it. Thanks for making this. Great job!!!!!!!
This is such a fantastic documentary! Your production quality is exquisite, and the way you presented Evelyn's story was wonderfully compassionate. Masterful job!
Another amazing video from you. You did this justice...so well produced. And LONG! Thank you for this. I listen to your channel on a playlist while I sleep. Not in a creepy way, though. Bahaha. Former Mortician here, btw. There's a reason I'm subscribed to ya!
A minor sidelight: A dear friend of mine was once proposed to by a first cousin of Harry K. Thaw. The name was so scandalous that he prefaced his proposal of marriage by revealing his heretofore secret familial connection to the crime-of-the-century. He said he would understand if she turned him down based on his besmirched history. She accepted. Thanks for the most detailed telling of this story I have encountered. This is great documentary filmmaking.
You said your friend was "once proposed to & accepted". did she marry this man? Being her friend you would kno him, why not just post that your friend is married his cousin? Bc there wld be records & you made this up. Sorry, I doubt your story- many people want to feel important & commenting on YT does not require proof. many also post under murder vids, saying they are friends with the murderer or the murdered. Being that Im a genealogist, 1st cousins are the same generation, so a cousin wld be near the age of Thaw, so you are saying your dear friend was born around 1895? Facts.
It is funny how in 2022, I would rather eat glass than spend one minute invested in a story about celebrities or the rich & famous. Yet, tell me a story from the 20th century or earlier; I get settled in and with coffee in hand am all ears!
Matt. You sir are amazing. When ever I watch your documentaries I honestly feel like I'm watching a Steven Spielberg documentary. Everything from start to finish is stellar. Thank you for your time and effort you so graciously put in. Looking forward to the next documentary.
The fact that she said White was the only man she ever loved is heartbreaking. A teenage girl convinced that the married man 35 years older than her was her only love while acknowledging that once she became older, he would no longer be interested in her is just...brutal. Trauma bonding can be a thing and if she had met White when she was 30, I doubt her takeaway would have been that he was the love of her life. She was definitely romanticizing a predator.
Thank you for mentioning this! I too found feeling about Stanford White to be one of the most shocking and tragic aspects of her life. What stuck in my mind the most was her saying, "When I learned to forgive him..." I couldn't conceive how there can be forgiveness for someone so depraved. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and for watching. Best.
Isn't it bizarre what the human mind can create ,in order to deal with such deep wounds. I have the feeling that he became some kind of twisted father figure to her. That he seduced her, so she believed it was her choice. ( times were different back then and older men, married young women a lot, because their parents wanted financial stability and a more settled man for their daughters, a man who isn't sowing his young oats? Completely foreign to our minds i know. But not young Evelyn's) And after he died she romanticized him as people do, when someone dies. After all they had went on fancy trips and he showed her what the life of a rich person could be. Her and her mother were quite poor beforehand. On the other hand who knows? Maybe after she forgave him for taking advantage of her, she remembered his charisma and talent. Her mother certainly liked him initially, after all. Its also possible she saw some good in his character, and that he had good in him. People are seldom all good or all bad. But my gut reaction is exactly yours. Its sad any way you look at it .
Once I started watching/listening I was hooked. Having a visual impairment which naturally makes narrative of anything that much more important & this doco had everything. So glad I found it.
You call this hard work??? I call hard work those who collect vegetables in the field for your table, those people who build buildings with their hands, give me a brake.
Do you need a car brake or what type of brake do you need? Research is difficult work or everyone could do it and do it well. I don't see your documentaries so I guess you can't do it either. Although research may not be laborious hard work... which I think is what you were trying to say... it is very time consuming and can be costly. When you are performing manual labor you do not have to pay to do it, go different places only for information, or pay for subscriptions in order to search information. But, nonetheless, give him a BREAK because he used the word "hard". You are forgiven for using the word "BRAKE" for break. 😂 @@kurupi68
🤣 we will forgive you for using the word "brake" instead of "break".... so stop giving him a hard time for using the word "hard". Research may not be hard manual labor but it is very difficult and costly. You don't have to pay to perform manual labor but in research you often have to pay subscriptions and other things to retrieve information or drive somewhere to get it, then pay for copies. It is not a picnic in the park or everyone could do it. Obviously, you do not do it so either quit complaining and listen up or move on. @@kurupi68
This is a superb documentary. Beautifully put together, great photographs and detail. The narration is wonderful. I really appreciate the follow up with the people involved after the trial. Thank you so much!!
I'm so impressed with the quality of this documentary. I've seen a few programs on Evelyn Nesbit so I didn't think I'd watch the whole video. But this is the most complete, well rounded one I've seen, so I watched every second. Please, more! Thanks so much!
This is fascinating. You're a talented storyteller. I kept listening, despite the length of the story. Stanford White's relationship with Evelyn is quite similar to one I know about, so her story affected me deeply.
I’m only 20 minutes into this.. but I HAVE to say.. you’re FANTASTIC at this.. I heard this story before, but you have brought it to life completely, not just the incredible visuals, ((OMG how did you FIND all of these! It’s literally incredible!)) But, the way you tell the story and construct the winding threads into a cohesive story without it being jumpy or disjointed. I totally understand how difficult that can be, and I have to tell you how excellent this is. I have learned more in the first 15 minutes of your video than I did in the whole retelling I first heard. It’s just excellent, and your attention to detail visually is remarkable. It never ceases to amaze me when I find a creator on YT of all places that creates these passion projects or regular dedicated videos to a topic, that are just phenomenal. Sometimes far, FAR better than anything on most tv channels too. It’s nice to know that these unbelievably talented people have a opportunity to share their creations online .. and I genuinely hope that you all get recognized and rewarded for your hard work, whatever way you wish to be. I’ll stop now, and go watch the rest of it ;) lol..
I have been hooked on your so well researched and presented documentaries since watching the Alfalfa video. This new documentary is so well worth the wait!!
Have just came across your page and this was the best documentary I’ve watched in a while! The story telling, the visuals! Brilliant. Thank you from UK
I listened to this while I was working today. Wow! I have to say that the strongest storytellers use voice and music to the point that even if your eyes were closed the picture is vivid. THAT is what you have accomplished here. Your writing shines. It really reminded me of the way the Cohen Brothers wrote their first scripts - it was that rich and dense in the storyline. Thank you.
wow. this was amazing and the poignant reflection after the part about Evelyn's funeral as you panned up from her gravestone was great. Thanks for documentary!
Magnificent! This is probably the best documentary I've watched about this event. If I was channel surfing and stumbled upon this, unless I checked I would have assumed it was made for PBS, Curiosity Stream, etc. Thank you for all the work and time you must've put into it. And, for sharing it here. I'm subscribed to watch your other works.
I thoroughly enjoyed this documentary! I always found this story fascinating. The narration was excellent and a lot of time was spent researching. Thanks and well done.
Excellent account of the Stanford White murder. Tells the story as the public heard it. Then gives us the followup information and some critical pieces of truth. A fascinating tale.
It warms my heart to see this from father to son. Everyone should be so fortunate to have a father like you. I wish I had. My grandfather was a good honorable father figure for me. Happy New year!
Marvelous. This is the best documentary I have seen. It`s makes one think that wealth cannot bring happiness. All those people`s lives were chaotic and each of them were mentally tormented. Thanks for uploading this.
Thus is hands down the best most extensive documentary I've ever seen on this case and the people involved. I thank you for your creativity and attention to detail. The photos with and video with the background noise was such a nice touch.
I've seen a few accounts of this case, yours is far superior to them all. The visuals are excellent, the details make it so vivid and the narration is perfect. Thank you!
I had a half dozen things I should have been doing rather than watch this - but it was mesmerizing! Thank you for a fascinating, in-depth look at a story of which I only knew a little.
TYVM for the amazing brillant told, true but dramatic story! I believe this was the best documentary I've seen yet & have seen many! I'm so glad i found your channel❤
This was absolutely one of the best documentaries I’ve seen! Just amazing! Thank you for putting so much work into a really sad & in my opinion, very tragic situation.
New subscriber! Love the way you add the actual photos and vintage videos to your stories! Thank you for the entertainment while I recover from surgery.
This Documentery was and is Brilliant "Brilliant" Thank you for the hard graft it must have taken to put this story together. and to see it to the very end. I shall watch it time and time again. THANK YOU!
A very remarkable retelling of the Stanford White saga. I truly felt whilst watching it I was there at that moment in time. So very well done and appreciated. Extraordinary documentary.
Wow! That was just wow and so incredible well researched. 😮Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into it. What a remarkable woman! Sadly not so much has changed with regards to victims getting blamed, shamed and are not being believed but the perpetrator(s) get away with (almost) everything.
re E.Nesbitt Sadly not so much has changed with regards to victims getting blamed, shamed and are not being believed but the perpetrator(s) get away with (almost) everything....EXACTLY Has MeToo changed all that much the way things go???????????????????????
I just watched the above and had to tell you that your voice is so soothing, it glides through the story like silk! Thanks for your excellent contributions to TH-cam!
In terms of both historical detail and social relevance, this has to be one of the most impressive documentaries on TH-cam. And, it’s a story I have never heard of before. Good job.
One of the most fascinating and compelling documentaries I've watched that I can think of. Thank you for ensuring the memory of this episode of our collective past is remembered. Visiting the graves of many of the people involved really does something to me I can't quite put to words just yet. Masterful work here!!
This was extremely well done! Wow, I watch a ton of documentaries on various subjects and yours is more engaging, well written, and produced more eloquently than a great many productions I've seen with full staff and filming crew! Exceptional work!
I am new to your channel and almost changed to a different show, thinking I had heard Miss Nesbitt's life story before. Or I thought I had! You went so far in depth with all of the characters involved! I am very impressed with your ability to make a documentary that feels like a fictional drama! As they say Life is stranger than fiction! Well done! So many wonderful pictures and tidbits made all the difference. If I could give 10 thumbs up I would!
As an old man now...I am struck by how fleeting we humans are in our youthful, attractive prime of life...those later photos of this lady could be of most any older woman...her natural beauty has left her...as it does for most all of us!..this observation of mine was recently reinforced, when a gathering of around 20 of us older folks--most of whom I had not seen since High school, over 50 years ago--found me talking to women and men who I would not have recognized, if they had walked by me on the street!
thanks for a great retelling of an old story, there was so much detail. it's easy to forget that she was a 16yr old girl supporting her family. Those old perverts stole her life. I'm glad she found some peace.
She lost her mind. We ONLY find peace in the Prince of Peace! She looked in ridiculous places for answers...(Karma). Every child born into the world should be taught John 3:16 and what it means!
I was very impressed with this documentary. For a while I assumed this was a professionally produced documentary you had simply found and posted here. I watch documentaries very regularly as it's one of my favorite genres so to find one so well done by one person is very impressive. I certainly hope you are involved in creating such films professionally in some way. It would be a shame if you aren't making a living from this ability. You have gained a subscriber... enthusiastically
Absolutely fantastic, Matt, beautifully assembled and narrated. The wealth of assets you brought to this is amazing. I can't wait to see what subjects you undertake next.
Great documentary! I had never heard of this before and was listening while at work last night and was glued to the cellphone. Then on my way home I listened to it while driving and then finished it up after returning home and eating breakfast. What an incredible story as well as an incredible video! You do some great work, I have to tell you. I know how much time and research and editing goes into something like this so I applaud you! THANK YOU for all your hard work in sharing this incredible story with us. Stay warm and safe.
This was excellent and must have taken a lot of work to put together. I’ve seen several documentaries on Evelyn Nesbit, but yours is the most thorough and discusses the life of Harry Thaw ( and his mommy)
This was brilliant. I wonder if it weren't for EL Doctorow's Ragtime, if Evelyn Nesbit's name would be lost to history? Thank you for this thorough re-telling of her often tragic story. She deserved better.
Wow this was absolutely INCREDIBLE!!!! I have no clue who made this documentary but it was absolutely outstanding. Amazing! Thank you. This was fascinating and I enjoyed every single second of it. Will definitely be checking out more docs because of this!!!!
Once again you brought it up a notch. I get so impatient for your next video and it was a while this time. And I thought to myself oh this next one’s gonna be great if it’s taking you that long it’s gonna be great, and it was well worth the wait. Your delivery is what draws me in. And you always leave us with something to ponder. Thank you for your time spent to educate us while entertaining at the same time. ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you, Kathi! I so appreciate your kind words and especially your patience during the long spells between videos. And even though it takes me far longer than I wish it would, I feel I owe it to all of my loyal viewers to give the very best I am capable of. Wishing you all the very best!
This is a well-produced and thorough documentary. I only ever remember hearing about the swing. I love how you looked at all angles and shared the aftermath.
Chapters
0:00 Prelude: A Song of Six Pence - the unfortunate story of the “girl in the pie.”
5:09 Introduction: Madison Square Garden, June 25, 1906 - The world is rocked by the murder of prominent New York architect Stanford White.
9:54 “I Am Not Crazy” - the arrest and indictment of Harry K. Thaw.
14:30 The Trial of the Century - the murder trial of Harry K. Thaw begins.
16:55 The Whole Truth - Evelyn Nesbit takes the stand and tells her story.
19:36 Benefactor - Evelyn meets Stanford White.
23:18 Tell No One - Evelyn is told to keep a secret.
26:28 The Millionaire’s Son - Pittsburgh millionaire comes into Evelyn’s life.
30:32 “Tell Me Everything” - Secrets are revealed.
34:34 Mrs. Harry K. Thaw - Evelyn marries.
37:57 MURDER - Harry Thaw takes his revenge.
42:34 Into the Fire - Evelyn is grilled on the stand by District Attorney Jerome.
50:25 Dementia Americana - Closing arguments.
54:43 DEADLOCK - The case goes to the jury.
57:33 Verdict - Harry Thaw learns his fate.
1:01:30 MADHOUSE - Harry is on the move and there a new addition comes into Evelyn’s life.
1:06:34 SANE - Harry’s status change.
1:09:45 Final Acts: “Don’t you know who I am?” - The unfortunate story of Fred Gump and the final days of a player.
1:24:09 The Eternal Question - Absolution for a chorus girl.
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To my son Matt, you have proved me wrong again. Just as i think you can't get any better with your documentaries you come out with your latest. WELL, DONE son, you have made your old man proud again.
Thanks, pop! Be careful not to set the bar too high, or I might just walk under it one of these times! 🤣
Awwwww 🙌
You have reason to be VERY VERY proud of your son. This video is excellent and the research phenomenal!! Very well done
@@michelleduplooymalherbe2837 THANK YOU, Michelle. I want you to know that he has done this all on his own with no help from anyone. He never ceases to amaze me.
@@pmcguinness3041 It is all his doing
This was by far one of the best laid out historical stories I have ever seen-and I have seen a LOT.
I completely agree!
Agreed!!! Beautiful
I have read extensively about the Thaw/ White/ Nesbit tragedy since I was in college in the '60s but this is unquestionably the best, most complete and compelling version of the story I have every found, and as a retired historian I am not easily impressed. Well done.
well thats a great complement, coming from an elder & not just any elder but a retired historian, you cant get any better then that 🙌🙌🙌🙌💯
Path of the Soul.
@@anarchist2381 Yes, it was a nice compliment. :)
Amazing story and boardwalk empire closely mirrors this historical event but uses composite characters to tell the story all the way down to the way Nucky was shot on the boardwalk, only it was the grandson of the female victim that kills the person who tricked his grandmother when she was a child and sold her to the commodore who was the old fat man that raped her. Sorry for the long winded comment but this story is absolutely fascinating!
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I'm only 15 minutes into this, but I'm really into this. ZERO stock unrelated photos. You've done actual research and dug up absolutely fascinating photos, sketches and drawings from the times of these occurrences. The script is excellent and riveting. The editing is spot-on. The narration is wonderful. I've been trying not to add any more subscriptions to my already-too-long list, but I must add your channel, as I must see your other work now. Kudos!
Well said, I feel the same way about this fascinating true story, a masterpiece.
Thinking of Jeffrey Epstein and his visitors. Nothing has changed except now media covering for Epstein.
I agree with the above statement. This is hard work that was extremely well done. I'll even say that youtube does not deserve it.
What do you mean by "ZERO stock unrelated photos"?
@@bigradwolf5001 Any stock photos he used are directly related to the subject of the video, for example the photo of the prison the perpetrator was held in. What I can't stand is when a creator of a video uses photos/video footage of entirely unrelated things. Such as narrating, "he was held in prison until the court date," and then showing a stock photo of some random prison somewhere that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. This video showed a photo of the actual prison, and I appreciate the effort. There are far too many creators out there that just throw random photos/video footage in there. Like for instance, "She then became pregnant with their first child," and then showing some random mother nursing some random baby. That's lazy, and far too many creators are doing it because it's quick and easy and helps them make money by allowing them to create a bunch of lazy videos very quickly. It drives me bonkers.
This is the first time I have heard this American greek tragedy. And the only need I have to hear it as you have laid out every detailed fabric & woven this story so flawlessly & completely. A brilliantly told documentary. Thank you it was fascinating to hear.
Terrific job on this doc! Great deep dive on the trajectory of their lives after the event. My grandfather was born 06’ the month White was shot, and I’ve always taken interest in the big story of the day.
Please, do more of these longer in-depth stories! I loved every minute of this.
So glad you liked it!
‼️What I think is really sweet and that I haven't seen anyone mention is despite Evelyn's husband, Harry's, reputation as a Playboy he wasn't a terrible person. Her story made him cry and I'm sure he was genuine as he ended up killing that creep. Who knows how many girls he saved by killing him. I'm sure he knew the police would do nothing especially over someone so rich and famous. And I doubt anyone would believe Evelyn if she had come forward it would only ruin her own reputation. She only came forward to save her husband. But her husband just seems like such a good man. He truly seemed to love her and care about her. He was a good man and did it to protect her and protect her honor. That creep deserved way worse than what he got.
@@WhitneyDahlin no he wasn’t a good man! He beat Evelyn and young Fred. And he frequently went to brothels where he abused women. His money bought him out of being punished for his heinous acts
@@nicolaxoxo1 damn that throws my whole romantic theory out the window 😭😭
@@WhitneyDahlin Thaw was insanely jealous and competitive in all the wrong ways. ...and a pervert. "Couldn't get aroused except through abusing/torturing/beating his victims" (???)...Thaw was a sick puppy coddled by an overprotective and co-dependent mother. At least the architect White had talent and aspirations to bring beauty into the world ...however his "weakness" for young girls was literally his downfall after debauching 16 year old Evelyn Nesbit ...perhaps murder was not a fair judgement for debauching young girls ...or was it? Frankly, they both belonged in prison in an age when this sort of shady behavior was all too readily swept under the rug ...especially for men with money! It's true even today! Think how long movie producer Harvey Weinstein got away with abusing and sexually coercing young beautiful women. Sadly, it is a story as old as time. That doesn't mean we shouldn't seek justice against these abusers!!
This is phenomenal, I have done research on this subject in the past, but never expected to find such a greatly researched and presented piece. Thank you so much...you should win a TH-cam academy award.
Wow, thank you! I am so glad you enjoyed the video. I truly appreciate your kind comments.
i would like to know who the photos of the subsequent scandals shown at the end of the doc are
@@johnstivaly1170 I didn't recognize all, but some were Mary Minter, Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, Leopold and Loeb & Rudolph Valentino.
@@lanbar5 thanks the only one i recognized was Valentino
@@graveexplorations Just discovered your channel. Subscribed. I love videos like this. I’ve never heard this story.
Thank you. I had no idea! It's so SAD. I just turned 69. I was thinking about my own life as I listened. Not that there were any parallels but just memories. People are the same....
Masterful storytelling. Your voice is compelling, your pace perfect, and the visuals support the story so richly--and they show a great depth of research. So well done--kudos! New subscriber..
Yes it was riveting - my goodness what a story!! Superbly presented and retold
Wow! This is a truly spectacular documentary, Matt! Once again, hats off to you!
Edit: The longer I’ve sat with this, the more astounded I’ve become. The twists and turns are perfect. I know this has already been turned into a movie, but this story is captivating and timely enough to be remade today-especially since we have the benefit of know how it all turned out. This is…wow. Truly, truly the best TH-cam has to offer and award-worthy in every way.
You are too kind! 😊 I can't thank you enough for your encouragement!
I've only seen her mentioned along with other notorious women around the time. I didn't know there was so much more to this story.
What’s the name of the movie made about this?
I think it’s time for another one! We don’t make enough big historical dramas, imo.
@@graveexplorations It's a great job! I watched as was looking for 'E.Nesbit' the English writer, this E.Nesbit is not the same person, but I was drawn in.
Beautifully done, extremely professional..the images, the music, the editing, the narration.
OHMYGOSH. ! This is an absolute Docu Drama. Still only part way through and your research is phenomenal. Five stars for sure.
Thank so much! I hope you enjoyed it!
What an absolutely lovely, narrative voice, permeating an enduring feeling of compassion. Thanks for this masterful telling of her story
THIS VIDEO IS TRULY A MASTERPIECE! I mean the facts themselves are a great platform for storytelling but your treatment and production and writing are honestly remarkable.
Excellent ! I was held captivated and spell bound to the very last word.
This was better than any documentary I’ve seen by a major film production company.
Thankyou for sharing your gifted talent through TH-cam, making it available to people like me.
This is absolute professional quality through and through. A remarkably accessible and engrossing retelling of a complex and twisting story with conflicting narratives. Brilliant.
Can't thank you enough for watching and your very kind words. Glad you enjoyed it!
Puts to shame some of the other similar attempts of cemetery storytelling!
After reading previous comments, I can only echo their praise. I have always heard of the story, but never felt compelled to find out more. Your presentation was amazing. I was caught up in the arch of the story from the first minute till the last. I actually feel I know the characters as they were in life. I consider this presentation as a true work of art. Thank you.
I have read everything I could get my hands on regarding Evelyn Nesbit. But this is by far the best documentary I have seen about her. I feel so bad for Evelyn. She was preyed on by everyone; White and Thaw alike. And shame on her mother for being so naive and not protecting her.
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So often you see pictures of what was considered pretty girls or woman back in that time and I think not so much , but with Nesbit the opposite is true , there is one picture of her where she is absolutely Beautiful
I've seen a few things about this case as well as read a book about it. This is, by far, the best doc I've ever seen about it. Thanks for making this. Great job!!!!!!!
This is such a fantastic documentary! Your production quality is exquisite, and the way you presented Evelyn's story was wonderfully compassionate. Masterful job!
One of the best documentaries I have ever seen. Emotionally moving and thought provoking. Well done my man.
Another amazing video from you. You did this justice...so well produced. And LONG!
Thank you for this. I listen to your channel on a playlist while I sleep. Not in a creepy way, though. Bahaha.
Former Mortician here, btw. There's a reason I'm subscribed to ya!
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your kind words and support!
A minor sidelight: A dear friend of mine was once proposed to by a first cousin of Harry K. Thaw. The name was so scandalous that he prefaced his proposal of marriage by revealing his heretofore secret familial connection to the crime-of-the-century. He said he would understand if she turned him down based on his besmirched history.
She accepted.
Thanks for the most detailed telling of this story I have encountered. This is great documentary filmmaking.
Thank you for sharing your friend's story! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
Ha, ha...great little anecdote that she accepted despite the notoriety of the case.
So how is/was their marriage ?
Why wouldn’t she?
You said your friend was "once proposed to & accepted". did she marry this man? Being her friend you would kno him, why not just post that your friend is married his cousin? Bc there wld be records & you made this up. Sorry, I doubt your story- many people want to feel important & commenting on YT does not require proof. many also post under murder vids, saying they are friends with the murderer or the murdered. Being that Im a genealogist, 1st cousins are the same generation, so a cousin wld be near the age of Thaw, so you are saying your dear friend was born around 1895? Facts.
This came up after watching another video. I was sucked in and enjoyed the story. Well done documentary.
I’m two years late but I got to tell you this is outstanding work. Well done ❤
It is funny how in 2022, I would rather eat glass than spend one minute invested in a story about celebrities or the rich & famous. Yet, tell me a story from the 20th century or earlier; I get settled in and with coffee in hand am all ears!
I agree! We are a couple old souls. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Gossip gossip gossip. The tale of lizzie Borden and Jack the ripper are true crime stories too
I know right? Refuse to read People Magazine but here I am.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agreed. Here I am in 2024 watching the same story as you did in 2022!! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THESE!! YOU DID A GREAT JOB SIR!!!
I agree but I think its because stuff like that didn't happen a lot back then Now it's an everyday thing
Matt. You sir are amazing. When ever I watch your documentaries I honestly feel like I'm watching a Steven Spielberg documentary. Everything from start to finish is stellar. Thank you for your time and effort you so graciously put in. Looking forward to the next documentary.
Thank you so much for the very high praise. I'm so glad you enjoy my work!
The fact that she said White was the only man she ever loved is heartbreaking. A teenage girl convinced that the married man 35 years older than her was her only love while acknowledging that once she became older, he would no longer be interested in her is just...brutal. Trauma bonding can be a thing and if she had met White when she was 30, I doubt her takeaway would have been that he was the love of her life. She was definitely romanticizing a predator.
Thank you for mentioning this! I too found feeling about Stanford White to be one of the most shocking and tragic aspects of her life. What stuck in my mind the most was her saying, "When I learned to forgive him..." I couldn't conceive how there can be forgiveness for someone so depraved. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and for watching. Best.
She was definitely a victim of grooming. Poor woman
@@TrangPakbaby Her mother was the main groomer
Yep. Her mother was a child trafficker
Isn't it bizarre what the human mind can create ,in order to deal with such deep wounds. I have the feeling that he became some kind of twisted father figure to her. That he seduced her, so she believed it was her choice. ( times were different back then and older men, married young women a lot, because their parents wanted financial stability and a more settled man for their daughters, a man who isn't sowing his young oats? Completely foreign to our minds i know. But not young Evelyn's) And after he died she romanticized him as people do, when someone dies. After all they had went on fancy trips and he showed her what the life of a rich person could be. Her and her mother were quite poor beforehand.
On the other hand who knows? Maybe after she forgave him for taking advantage of her, she remembered his charisma and talent. Her mother certainly liked him initially, after all. Its also possible she saw some good in his character, and that he had good in him. People are seldom all good or all bad.
But my gut reaction is exactly yours. Its sad any way you look at it .
Once I started
watching/listening I was hooked.
Having a visual impairment which naturally makes narrative of anything that much more important & this doco had everything.
So glad I found it.
I love how you told us what happened to all the players in this tragic tale. Thanks for your hard work
You call this hard work??? I call hard work those who collect vegetables in the field for your table, those people who build buildings with their hands, give me a brake.
@@kurupi68wtf. If you think it's easy, go put together a documentary on your own and see how difficult it is.
Do you need a car brake or what type of brake do you need?
Research is difficult work or everyone could do it and do it well. I don't see your documentaries so I guess you can't do it either.
Although research may not be laborious hard work... which I think is what you were trying to say... it is very time consuming and can be costly. When you are performing manual labor you do not have to pay to do it, go different places only for information, or pay for subscriptions in order to search information.
But, nonetheless, give him a BREAK because he used the word "hard".
You are forgiven for using the word "BRAKE" for break. 😂 @@kurupi68
🤣 we will forgive you for using the word "brake" instead of "break".... so stop giving him a hard time for using the word "hard". Research may not be hard manual labor but it is very difficult and costly. You don't have to pay to perform manual labor but in research you often have to pay subscriptions and other things to retrieve information or drive somewhere to get it, then pay for copies.
It is not a picnic in the park or everyone could do it. Obviously, you do not do it so either quit complaining and listen up or move on. @@kurupi68
This is a superb documentary. Beautifully put together, great photographs and detail. The narration is wonderful. I really appreciate the follow up with the people involved after the trial. Thank you so much!!
OUTSTANDING!!!!!! I’ve watched several videos about this but there has been NOTHING that compares to this. I absolutely LOVED every second
I truly can't thank you enough for your very kind words! I am so glad you enjoyed the video!
I’ve seen several on this topic as well and this one may be the definitive one.
This was a fascinating story and you have done a great job researching and editing. Thank you for your hard work in creating this fabulous piece! ❤
I'm so impressed with the quality of this documentary. I've seen a few programs on Evelyn Nesbit so I didn't think I'd watch the whole video. But this is the most complete, well rounded one I've seen, so I watched every second. Please, more! Thanks so much!
This is fascinating. You're a talented storyteller. I kept listening, despite the length of the story. Stanford White's relationship with Evelyn is quite similar to one I know about, so her story affected me deeply.
I’m only 20 minutes into this.. but I HAVE to say.. you’re FANTASTIC at this..
I heard this story before, but you have brought it to life completely, not just the incredible visuals, ((OMG how did you FIND all of these! It’s literally incredible!))
But, the way you tell the story and construct the winding threads into a cohesive story without it being jumpy or disjointed.
I totally understand how difficult that can be, and I have to tell you how excellent this is.
I have learned more in the first 15 minutes of your video than I did in the whole retelling I first heard. It’s just excellent, and your attention to detail visually is remarkable.
It never ceases to amaze me when I find a creator on YT of all places that creates these passion projects or regular dedicated videos to a topic, that are just phenomenal. Sometimes far, FAR better than anything on most tv channels too. It’s nice to know that these unbelievably talented people have a opportunity to share their creations online .. and I genuinely hope that you all get recognized and rewarded for your hard work, whatever way you wish to be.
I’ll stop now, and go watch the rest of it ;) lol..
Thanks so much for sharing your kind words!
You, sir, are a natural born story teller! I appreciate your research and professional video. Well done!!
I can't thank you enough for your very kind words. So glad you enjoyed it!
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I have been hooked on your so well researched and presented documentaries since watching the Alfalfa video. This new documentary is so well worth the wait!!
Thanks so much, I truly appreciate your very kind words!
Have just came across your page and this was the best documentary I’ve watched in a while! The story telling, the visuals! Brilliant. Thank you from UK
I listened to this while I was working today. Wow! I have to say that the strongest storytellers use voice and music to the point that even if your eyes were closed the picture is vivid. THAT is what you have accomplished here. Your writing shines. It really reminded me of the way the Cohen Brothers wrote their first scripts - it was that rich and dense in the storyline. Thank you.
wow.
this was amazing and the poignant reflection after the part about Evelyn's funeral as you panned up from her gravestone was great.
Thanks for documentary!
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching to the end!
for sure :)
Magnificent! This is probably the best documentary I've watched about this event. If I was channel surfing and stumbled upon this, unless I checked I would have assumed it was made for PBS, Curiosity Stream, etc. Thank you for all the work and time you must've put into it. And, for sharing it here. I'm subscribed to watch your other works.
I thoroughly enjoyed this documentary! I always found this story fascinating. The narration was excellent and a lot of time was spent researching. Thanks and well done.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent account of the Stanford White murder. Tells the story as the public heard it. Then gives us the followup information and some critical pieces of truth. A fascinating tale.
It warms my heart to see this from father to son. Everyone should be so fortunate to have a father like you. I wish I had. My grandfather was a good honorable father figure for me. Happy New year!
Marvelous.
This is the best documentary I have seen.
It`s makes one think that wealth cannot bring happiness.
All those people`s lives were chaotic and each of them were mentally tormented.
Thanks for uploading this.
This was superb! So in-depth. What a fascinating case. I wish more You Tubers would do videos of this length x
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching to the end 😊
Some are improving.
The best
Watched it all. Wonderful work you did. There is much to see within on the human condition that affects us all.
Thank you for sticking through to the end! I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Thus is hands down the best most extensive documentary I've ever seen on this case and the people involved. I thank you for your creativity and attention to detail. The photos with and video with the background noise was such a nice touch.
This video made me lose track of time. That's when you know it's good. Thanks for making it. I read about her a awhile ago. Now I want to read more.
I know this story well and you’ve done a totally masterful documentary on it. Hats off!
I've seen a few accounts of this case, yours is far superior to them all. The visuals are excellent, the details make it so vivid and the narration is perfect. Thank you!
So glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
I had a half dozen things I should have been doing rather than watch this - but it was mesmerizing! Thank you for a fascinating, in-depth look at a story of which I only knew a little.
TYVM for the amazing brillant told, true but dramatic story! I believe this was the best documentary I've seen yet & have seen many! I'm so glad i found your channel❤
W0W, this was so interesting I could not stop watching. You have a way of telling the story that's captivating.
A fascinating story, well told.
This was absolutely one of the best documentaries I’ve seen! Just amazing! Thank you for putting so much work into a really sad & in my opinion, very tragic situation.
This was an incredibly well crafted exemplary example of a documentary. I commend you on all the work you put into this.
New subscriber! Love the way you add the actual photos and vintage videos to your stories! Thank you for the entertainment while I recover from surgery.
This Documentery was and is Brilliant "Brilliant" Thank you for the hard graft it must have taken to put this story together. and to see it to the very end. I shall watch it time and time again. THANK YOU!
A very remarkable retelling of the Stanford White saga. I truly felt whilst watching it I was there at that moment in time. So very well done and appreciated. Extraordinary documentary.
Wow! That was just wow and so incredible well researched. 😮Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into it. What a remarkable woman!
Sadly not so much has changed with regards to victims getting blamed, shamed and are not being believed but the perpetrator(s) get away with (almost) everything.
re E.Nesbitt
Sadly not so much has changed with regards to victims getting blamed, shamed and are not being believed but the perpetrator(s) get away with (almost) everything....EXACTLY
Has MeToo changed all that much the way things go???????????????????????
Brilliant as always. Thank you so much for this fascinating and historic story. Brilliant. xx Teresa 🇦🇺❤
Thank you so much!
I just watched the above and had to tell you that your voice is so soothing, it glides through the story like silk! Thanks for your excellent contributions to TH-cam!
Your kind words mean the world to me, thanks so much!
@@graveexplorations You are most welcome!
This piece was very well done!!! You are a gifted story teller!
I've read Miss Nesbitts's story many times, but this was the most comprehensive and spiritually generous.
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Yes! "spiritually generous.' That was the exact phrase I was searching for, and you are right.
Yet another magnificent documentary, Matt! I can't even comprehend the amount of effort that goes into producing these, it's really impressive.
Thanks so much for the very kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
In terms of both historical detail and social relevance, this has to be one of the most impressive documentaries on TH-cam.
And, it’s a story I have never heard of before.
Good job.
I truly appreciate your kind words! So glad you enjoyed the video!
I don't know why this gem showed up on my feed, but I am thoroughly impressed and compelled! Brilliant!
One of the most fascinating and compelling documentaries I've watched that I can think of. Thank you for ensuring the memory of this episode of our collective past is remembered. Visiting the graves of many of the people involved really does something to me I can't quite put to words just yet. Masterful work here!!
Absolutely outstanding historical journey with brilliant visuals and impressive narration.
Thank you! 👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Many thanks!
That was REALLY well done. So fascinating up until the very end. Thank you
This was extremely well done! Wow, I watch a ton of documentaries on various subjects and yours is more engaging, well written, and produced more eloquently than a great many productions I've seen with full staff and filming crew! Exceptional work!
This is by far the best true crime video I've seen in years. Thank you.
One of the best YT docs I’ve encountered. It also tells a history of NYC that is rarely brought up these days. Excellent job!
I had never heard of these people and appreciate this well done documentary. Totally engaging.
I am new to your channel and almost changed to a different show, thinking I had heard Miss Nesbitt's life story before. Or I thought I had! You went so far in depth with all of the characters involved! I am very impressed with your ability to make a documentary that feels like a fictional drama! As they say Life is stranger than fiction! Well done! So many wonderful pictures and tidbits made all the difference. If I could give 10 thumbs up I would!
Thanks so much! I truly appreciate your very kind words!
As an old man now...I am struck by how fleeting we humans are in our youthful, attractive prime of life...those later photos of this lady could be of most any older woman...her natural beauty has left her...as it does for most all of us!..this observation of mine was recently reinforced, when a gathering of around 20 of us older folks--most of whom I had not seen since High school, over 50 years ago--found me talking to women and men who I would not have recognized, if they had walked by me on the street!
thanks for a great retelling of an old story, there was so much detail. it's easy to forget that she was a 16yr old girl supporting her family.
Those old perverts stole her life. I'm glad she found some peace.
"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Proverbs 22:6!
Her mother was a pervert like the rest.
She lost her mind. We ONLY find peace in the Prince of Peace! She looked in ridiculous places for answers...(Karma).
Every child born into the world should be taught John 3:16 and what it means!
Excellent documentary ! Subscribed
I’m lost for words. This story just popped up in a queue and I took an interest. It’s an amazing story. Thank you. I’ve subscribed. So pleased. Tom.
This was fantastic! The depth into truth and the humanity shown through each perspective was so satisfying. Thank you for the story.
Thank you, so glad you enjoyed the video!
I was very impressed with this documentary. For a while I assumed this was a professionally produced documentary you had simply found and posted here. I watch documentaries very regularly as it's one of my favorite genres so to find one so well done by one person is very impressive. I certainly hope you are involved in creating such films professionally in some way. It would be a shame if you aren't making a living from this ability. You have gained a subscriber... enthusiastically
Me as well.
I am humbled by your very kind and supportive words. I can't thank you enough!
Absolutely fantastic, Matt, beautifully assembled and narrated. The wealth of assets you brought to this is amazing. I can't wait to see what subjects you undertake next.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much!
By far the best account I have ever heard about the hullaballoo concerning Ms. Nesbit! GREAT storytelling!!
Absolutely a gem! YT’s algorithm gave me a gift when it suggested your channel tonight. Outstanding work that’s worthy of PBS. Kudos to you good sir.
Such a fascinating story and so sad! I had never even heard of this before! Thank you! Am now excitedly subscribed!
Great documentary! I had never heard of this before and was listening while at work last night and was glued to the cellphone. Then on my way home I listened to it while driving and then finished it up after returning home and eating breakfast. What an incredible story as well as an incredible video! You do some great work, I have to tell you. I know how much time and research and editing goes into something like this so I applaud you! THANK YOU for all your hard work in sharing this incredible story with us. Stay warm and safe.
This was excellent and must have taken a lot of work to put together. I’ve seen several documentaries on Evelyn Nesbit, but yours is the most thorough and discusses the life of Harry Thaw ( and his mommy)
This was brilliant. I wonder if it weren't for EL Doctorow's Ragtime, if Evelyn Nesbit's name would be lost to history? Thank you for this thorough re-telling of her often tragic story. She deserved better.
Excellent documentary, I could not pull myself away from it. 😉👍
Wow this was absolutely INCREDIBLE!!!! I have no clue who made this documentary but it was absolutely outstanding. Amazing! Thank you. This was fascinating and I enjoyed every single second of it. Will definitely be checking out more docs because of this!!!!
Wow! So much work put into this documentary! Well Done!! More like this, please!!
this was the best documentary ive ever watched about this story... Bravo on your hard work.
Truly, I can't thank you enough for your kind words. So glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliant research and storytelling. It really pleases me to know that, out there, there are still good journalists and researchers. Congratulations!
Lovely and well made documentary! Thank you!
Brilliant work, fully production quality and so well narrated and structured. Quality content - top notch, thanks so much for putting this together.
Once again you brought it up a notch. I get so impatient for your next video and it was a while this time. And I thought to myself oh this next one’s gonna be great if it’s taking you that long it’s gonna be great, and it was well worth the wait. Your delivery is what draws me in. And you always leave us with something to ponder. Thank you for your time spent to educate us while entertaining at the same time. ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you, Kathi! I so appreciate your kind words and especially your patience during the long spells between videos. And even though it takes me far longer than I wish it would, I feel I owe it to all of my loyal viewers to give the very best I am capable of. Wishing you all the very best!
This channel is getting better and better. One of the few favourites I watch as soon as I see them posted. Thanks for all your hard work!
I cannot thank you enough for your kind words. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
This really was a fascinating documentary! Thank you !
This is a well-produced and thorough documentary. I only ever remember hearing about the swing. I love how you looked at all angles and shared the aftermath.