@@rylans.5365 According to what? I'm seeing BMW ranked higher than Hyundai. And Genesis is ranked below Ford. Only stupid people pay that much for inferior vehicles.
Not entirely true. My mother has bought a new Hyundai Elantra about every 3 years since 2002. In 2001 they changed the engine and transmission platform to what they use today. That first Hyundai had cooling issues with their transmissions. Since then she’s never once had a major issue with any of her Elantra’s. She’s either blessed, or they have made good cars. She has never traded in her cars with less than 250,000 miles.
@@Manc-king I have a white ford escape (2016) and those have paint trouble as well. Not to this level though. Just paint on the roof along the windshield. And a small dot on the front of the hood.
@JDMSwervo2001 yes, they both are being sued because of that. But they are not being sued over their mechanical issues. These are two of the most reliable cars on the planet. And you can bet their bottom dollar that they will make everything right because of their reputation.
@@JDMSwervo2001 A buddy of mine is going through similar thing with a GMC truck and a Subaru Outback. I wonder if a chemistry was sourced from one company for the white paint.
Oh so paying $75-80,000 for a plastic and recycled 1/2 ton pickup truck is ok then? ALL cars and trucks are overpriced and not worth half of the price on the sticker so your comment makes no sense.
@@bluejacketsfan60 What comment are you reading? Who said it's ok to pay $75 k for a truck? I have been saying for years the only way to get the prices down is for people to stop buying them, The companies making these and selling them for 5x and 10x what they are worth to people can do it because people are willing to pay it Ill sell you my house for 1.5 mill if you are willing to pay that even though it's 70 years old and only worth $60.000k at best. I just seen someone pay $450.000 for the exact same house as I have just last summer, These big companies have all the equipment and supply chain already set up and can make and sell these cars for $10k and still make a profit but if people will pay 6x that price then that's going to be the price, We know and they know these cars are junk we and they know the price should be $20 to $40k max but people are paying these prices so why would the company lower the price? have you seen anyone protesting In front of the dealers about the Price? Have you seen anyone showing price difference from 10 years ago to today for the same trucks? Have you seen anyone showing the price for a car in '' country '' vs here for the same car? No and as long as people walk in and pay there is no reason for them to lower the price, Every time I see someone with a new car It makes me angry because they are the reason for the crazy prices,
@@HappyBuffalo-ky9ni Show me as well, I won't buy it because they should be $25k max not $50k, At $50k that car will be in the junkyard before you have it paid of, I have a friend who bought a new car 4 years ago and now she is paying $600 a month plus all the repairs out of pocket because the warranty time and miles are done,
Avoid Hyundai/ Kia like the plague. Peeling paint will be your least concern. They burn oil and blow engines. People buy them because they have fancier interiors compared with similarly priced cars but they do this by cutting quality elsewhere.
My 2016 kia soul eats oil like a starved animal. Im surprised my engine hasnt blown yet too. My 2017 honda crv with over 100k miles has no issues and runs just like the day i bought it. Never buying kia/hyundai again
If you want a good car with a good interior, go with Mazda, their interiors are awesome, plus the car that is wrapped around the interior is pretty darn good too.
Here's why this is happening. The following is what many vehicle manufacturers use with some variying pretreatments. When the vehicle is in manufacturing, the body is run on a conveyor line. It first goes through a wash of either acidic or alkaline chemical. Alkaline cleaners/surfactants are superior to acidic cleaners. Then a rinse, then sometimes another wash or a rinse. Then into a pretreatment of a bonderizing chemical to make the paint or primer to stick better. So far, no problem! The next in line is a tank full of an electrofied primer material called electrocoat. It is a primer that the body is run/lowered into a large tank and this tank is electrofied whereas an operator can adjust exactly how much primer is applied "everywhere" on the body. It's a neat operation and this primer is a very good part of the pretreatment. Again, so far, so good. The next part of this pretreatment is to run the body into an oven to cure this primer "Partially". I say partially because, this primer cannot be fully cured or the topcoat/paint can "delaminate" if the primer is not cured enough or too much! This is called an intercoat adhesion issue. It is imperative for the paintline operations to insure proper voltage and curing is perfect everytime. So when it is not in specification, the hot and cold will come into play and eventually the paint will peel because the paint will not be able to stick properly to the primer, causing the delamination. This is why you're seeing what your seeing.
I heard a while back that the reason. The paint peels is because here in America when they paint the car. They have to use water-based paint for air pollution concerns. When you buy a car from overseas like maybe Japan or Korea that's built there. They can paint it with any kind of paint they want. And they don't use water-based. So the paint is much better and sticks better.
What about the hoods/truck lids? They are attached after the vehicle is E-coated. If the paint films are low, under or over baked paint, or the paint is prepped wrong. Wrong solvent added to reduce to spray , or too much or too little. Paint Robots not being cleaned properly. It could be crappy paint from the supplier. Or a raw material supplier changed the chemistry of their material & didn't inform the Paint making company of the change.
@@AWAKE_PA As disposable cars go the 80s was really where it was at. The Reliant K was great, as long as it wasn't raining. When it rained the front wheel drive torque steer felt like it would break your arm. Other race to the bottom vehicles included the Champ, Fiesta, Yugo, Rabbit, Audi 5000 Turbo, anything British and the Chevette. There was also this foolish "Cadillac" based on the Cavalier chassis. It was a blase time when carbs were going away and emissions controls were moving from analog to digital (same stupid Check Engine light).
@@derekheim8172 So true. Even the late 70's. I once had a 78 Mustang II. Looked like a Pinto or Bobcat. K-cars, Vega's, Volares, the list goes on. And what GMC almost did to the legacy of Cadillac, it's amazing it survived. There was a handful of 80's worth keeping like vettes, mustangs, camaros, firebirds. But that decade sucked.
It is called Paint Delamination. I it is caused from Hyundai cheating and cutting out the primer coats after the sealer to save a few dollars per car. GM had an enormous Paint Delam recall back in the 80's / 90's.. As a manger of body and paint shops for GM dealers then I can tell you this problem will not go away. I can state that when the GM reps came in to inspect they just looked at cars and said, "I do not see anything"..GM initially denied every claim, as is Hyundai, all of the paint claims, then they were forced to own up and had to strip and paint cars..We were stripping and painting peelers to the tune of maybe numerous per week. Most cars that peel are white whether GM or Hyundai. Why?? There is a factual cause reason which I do not know, but, It has to do with the ultra violets penetrating the color and clear coats.
i had it worse than you..i was a tech!..lol..i hated them all over peelers!..we got like 40 hours paint time to completely strip and repaint the entire car..came in on monday and had to go on friday and the manager would give me like 5 other jobs for the week to do also..i was working around mid to late 90's..mostly grand ams, grand prix..cutlass's..roofs on the montana vans..sometimes the paint would all just blow off with a air hose, but most of the time we had to use stripper..and it was the real air craft remover stripper that you probably cant even get today..the peeler stripper in a spray can didnt work most of the time
Donald, my dad had 2 Chevy Trucks in the late 80's and early 90's. A blue 1500 and a burgundy 2500 truck, and both of them had the famous paint peeling problem.
i like how when you as a little person approach these companies and they tell you NO, but as soon as the NEWS contacts them, its "OH wait lets fix this"
As an automotive painter I see this a lot, and it's due to poor adhesion between the color and the primer/sealer. If it's happening on a vehicle that's never been repainted due to repair or whatever, it's a factory issue, and Hyundai should be recalling these vehicles. I can also say I've seen it happen on Hyundai cars as old as 2001, so it's not a limited occurrence. GM had the same issue in the 80's....
Older American here. I've got a V6 white 2010 Santa Fe, purchased it new. Had paint issues on the hood & on corners around the back hatch in 2021. Reported the issue to my dealer & they basically said, not my problem, you are out of warrantee.
It’s amazing how many people park their new cars in the driveway and keep $200 worth of garage sale crap in their garage, yeah it’s not the cause but an observation.
@ yes I disc, did you even read my comment? I noticed that the first complaint had her car backed into the driveway (a GenZ fetish?) and it always piques my curiosity as to why people do it. One neighbor in my area thought it was ridiculous that people park their cars……in their garages. She was like; what? Am I supposed to open my garage door every day? Um yeah, that’s why we have OPENERS”. So don’t read too much into comments, because it’s just an observation in this case.
I know so many people who do that and it drives me crazy. What's in the garage nothing but old boxes and garbage and you're expensive car or trucks in the driveway with the elements like hail and salt
If it's a Hyundai... Contact corporate! They covered ours even out of warranty! No conflict no argument! They just had us get 3 estimates and they took care of it. They DON"T tell you any of this, but the service techs know it, but were told NOT to tell people.
@billygildark4565 That's about right That's why I don't buy a Hyundai or Kia Did the warranty cover it I got a friend that happened to and Suresky the dealer wouldn't cover the warranty because she didn't pay for the car's maintenance at that dealership. She had her cousin who owns a shop change oil perform regular maintenance on the car with receipts and still they voided the warranty.
My 2016 elantra has 137.8k and is puring likw a kitten, .y boss has a 2012 elantra with 250k and still going. I dont see hyundai being bad brand. You're just being biased
Whats the brand got to do with it? $48,000 for any car is highway robbery. You’ve got to remember that it’s 2025 Hyundai and Kia are seriously competing against groups like BMW and Mercedes.
@@mikemiller659not anymore - they fixed that problem...... unlike an American car maker.....just like Ford when they screwed me on the Windstar cracked rear axle recall.
How is hyundai poor quality? My 2016 elantta has 138k miles. Just think alot of haters are a biased on brands, like alot of people love their chevy or words, etc. Every brand has issues. Don't act like it's one or the other or else they wouldn't be in business
@@Yinzermakesvids Its just fact. No need to take it personal. Like with anything else, quality varies by brands. Hyundai and Kia for example, are amongst the worse. There will always be a few that hold up, especially if they are well maintained. Evidence of their low quality can be easily observed. Just look at them on the road, they are quite literally falling apart. More over, values plummet at a rate far faster to other brands.
@@Yinzermakesvidsbecause it’s a low quality brand. Do you not realize that there are people who have metrics on all of the brands across thousands of vehicles?
That happened to me years ago (1990-91’ish) with my Chevrolet Corsica. Fortunately, Chevrolet accepted responsibility for the defect and repainted my vehicle! I pray Hyundai does the same!🙏🏽
Paint on my wifes 2015 Honda Fit started to peel off 5 years ago in exactly the same way. Our local dealer West City Honda and Honda Canada screwed us around until both the factory warranty and an additional paint warranty extension expired. The white pearl paint just falls off in the rain just like this ladies Hyundai. My wife loved her little car prior to this happening , I have since paid to have the roof , tailgate and all four doors and the top of the front fenders re painted at a cost of $4000 . We will never buy another Honda and advise anyone else not to as they knowingly produce an inferior product and fail to honour their warrantys.
I have a white 2015 Honda Fit also. It started peeling right when the 7-year extended warranty expired and showing no signs of stopping. I've been looking at videos to spot paint it myself to try and stop it. It keeps popping up slowly in different areas though. I see other makes with white paint peeling as well.
This is 100% a factory prep issue causing adhesion issues between the top coat and the base primer coats. GM went through similar issues in 1987 when they switched from an oil based solvent paint to water based due to EPA regulations. It caused wide-spread peeling issues.
I once had a KIA paint problem..... KIA dealership corrected it and a month later the same problem arose. KIA couldn't be bothered second time around so got rid before the problem got worse.
Sounds like a dealer problem - my dad is a used car dear and has gotten engines replaced at no cost for ones he's bought at auction with a blown engine so don't tell me they don't take care of their problems.
All car paint is now water based. Sure looks pretty when first applied. Easy to clean too. Changing colors is a snap. Too bad it's not lacquer based. I miss those days.
I never understood people buying $45+ for Hyundai These are just junk cars Buy Honda Toyota you will have less issues. You’re better off buying 2000 Toyota Corolla than brand new Hyundai
This exact issue happened on my old Mercury Sable years ago. It seemed at the time that it was my specific color code which has issues adhering to the primer/base coat or whatever is underneath the paint.
Ford tried to paint vehicles without primer back in the late 1980's. Silvers/greys were the worst. They were finally forced to recall them for repainting.
When you buy some of the cheapest new cars on the market, you get what you pay for. At this point it's common knowledge how bad Hyundai vehicles are both inside and out. People, do your research before you buy a car! The handful of people who manage to get these cars to 200,000 miles or more are the exception to the rule.
ND neighbor had a 'Yota PU doing the same thing. Dealer claimed the truck had been immersed in salt water. Original wiring worked fine, but... "It has been immersed."
This was a Nissan problem for a long time as well. Same white color. Seems like the primer they used didn't bond properly to the top coat for whatever reason (maybe too smooth) so over time and moisture/ chipping etc, the paint would flake.
My mom’s 2013 Nissan Rogue has this problem, Nissan didn’t pay or offer to repaint, now she’s stuck with the car and has to save to get it repainted out of her own pocket.
I had a Mazda in the 1990's that had the same issue. After Mazda told me that they would not do anything about it, I decided that I would never own another one again. Owners should ask Hyundai to give them a reason to buy another vehicle from them.
A few years ago they did acknowledge the issue and offered a repair. Problem was that the window was so small when called to book an appointment you couldn’t get in before the cutoff.
My mother has owned a new Elantra every 3 years since 2002. She drives them until they get about 250,000 miles. With the exception of the first Elantra she’s never had anything major go wrong with them. She’s currently driving a 23 model, outside of normal wear and tear issues, she hasn’t had and big issues.
Guy living in Guadalajara, Mexico here. I started to have the same peeling paint issue on mid 2024 with three cars; 2005 Toyota Rav 4, 2014 Toyota Corolla and 2005 Nissan Pathfinder. All of them are white. None of my other cars have this issue no matter the year. It is weird this only happens to white cars though.
As an owner of a 2021 Mazda 3, with 37,500 miles, I disagreee. The pearl white paint on my Mazda is as thin as heck. I have chips all over my front bumper and hood. I cannot imagine what my paint will look like in another 3 years. The plastic in the interior is cheap and thin as well, scratching easily and causing many rattles and squeaks. The engine and transmission have been reliable so far, but build quality when it comes to body integrity is just not up to Toyota, Honda, or even Subaru levels.
Wait till it starts leaking oil and antifreeze to the point your HOA, says you can’t bring the car into the neighborhood. The dealer tells you, oh it’s not leaking enough to replace the engine under warranty.
It's nothing new here, folks. Paint chipping on white vehicles has been peeling around for decades. Chevys, Ford, etc. It's just cheap paint from the manufacturers. It's just another way to save them a buck fifty for each vehicle. 🤠
Paint has been peeling from cars for years. You can thank the automated paint sprayer the oems use and try to cover up a sorry paint job with a clear coat. 40 years ago the paint jobs on cars today would be unacceptable. We can also give a huge thanks to the EPA.
I've heard the reason the paint peels is here in America. When the car is painted or assembled here they have to use water-based paint for pollution concerns. When you get a car that's assembled and painted in Korea or Japan. They don't have to do that, so the paint works as good as it used to back in the old days.
That’s not correct. Honda and Toyota are still well built. Mazda and Nissan are close behind them in quality. Hyundai/ Kia are bottom of the barrel for quality
Listen and listen good when you run your cars to when I'm automated car washes the pressure hitting the body work is so hard it loosens the paint off from the primer.
The paint on my 2016 White Orchid Pearl Honda FIT started peeling three years after purchase. Honda sent a letter to every owner identifying the problem and extending the warranty for the paint to seven years after purchase. They did the right thing and made good on it. My entire car was completely refinished free of charge with the exception of the plastic parts which weren't affected.
This is nothing new. Pretty much every automaker has had paint peeling problems at one time or another. In 1970 Chrysler had a problem with their inviolet/plum crazy. In the late '80s, GM had a problem with their light blue, and silver. That came off in sheets. Ford had trouble at one time, with certain cars. Today, pickup trucks with painted bumpers, they don't peel but they chip like crazy.
The paint did not chemically bond to the E coating ( epoxy coating ) which means unless the whole painted surface is stripped and repainted there will be more peeling - Hyundai also has an issue with their power windows where the weak link is a plastic drum roller that usually strips out causing failure on every window.
It starts with paint peeling, then oil consumption, your car getting stolen, then a blown engine. These are the four stages of grief.
wow, hit it on the head with this one. couldnt have said it better myself.
I've had two, waiting for the third. My paint has never peeled.
@@Abandoned_Brane Were they white?
Buy a Honda 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
😂😂😂😂
That's a $48k car? Yikes. People out here paying BMW money for a Hyundai.
Hyundai is far more reliable
@@rylans.5365No the hell it is not.
@@rylans.5365 According to what? I'm seeing BMW ranked higher than Hyundai. And Genesis is ranked below Ford. Only stupid people pay that much for inferior vehicles.
And BMW is just as trash
Somethings wrong there. There’s no way that particular model car that year would cost that much money!
Why do companies/corporations have to get shamed before they do the right thing?? SMH
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Greed (another Luigi is getting ready to punish them)
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Maybe it'$ becau$e of $omething that come$ in green
Simple numbers by the bean counters.
And it is getting more difficult to shame bad corporations. They consider it a CODB.
Your main problem is that "H" on the grille doesn't mean Honda.
Funny!
@@MG-iu4ehas if Honda isn’t literally getting a lawsuit for that?
But no longer as true as it used to be. 😢
Not entirely true. My mother has bought a new Hyundai Elantra about every 3 years since 2002. In 2001 they changed the engine and transmission platform to what they use today. That first Hyundai had cooling issues with their transmissions. Since then she’s never once had a major issue with any of her Elantra’s. She’s either blessed, or they have made good cars. She has never traded in her cars with less than 250,000 miles.
Honda had the same problem in the late '00's.
Point of fact, it actually isn't a paint/material defect. The metal wasn't prepared correctly thus the paint separates from the surface.
Then why is it always white paint, and with multiple manufacturers? It’s not just Hyundai.
correct, no or little primer specifically.
Yep it’s left to long between being primed to paint being applied and the primer has hardened to much for the paint to have any grip
@@Manc-king I have a white ford escape (2016) and those have paint trouble as well. Not to this level though. Just paint on the roof along the windshield. And a small dot on the front of the hood.
Wrong. The primer was clearly still visible.
Don’t worry about the paint your engine is gonna blow up soon 💩
😂🤣
Time to switch to good old 1977 Buick Skylark with easy to rebuild engine and solid body
@@mkrp4amen. And my Buick Lacrosse paint still looks fabulous
😂
Ah yes, the lovely co$t saving measures where the valves are made out of recycled Cylon centurion costumes from the OG Battlestar Galactica.
The few dollars you saved buying a Hyundai will cost you big time over the long run.
Toyota just covered and paid for our Highlander to be repainted, with the same issue and color, with the vehicle nearly 10 years old.
Your ignorants speak well about you. Hyundai is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road today.
This isn’t just a Hyundai issue Honda is actually being sued over white paint defects
@JDMSwervo2001 yes, they both are being sued because of that. But they are not being sued over their mechanical issues. These are two of the most reliable cars on the planet. And you can bet their bottom dollar that they will make everything right because of their reputation.
@@JDMSwervo2001 A buddy of mine is going through similar thing with a GMC truck and a Subaru Outback. I wonder if a chemistry was sourced from one company for the white paint.
My Silverado skipped the peeling paint stage and went straight to rusting out. Thanks GM.👍
They should be thankful the structural integrity is still fine😊
Typical gm
Thats General Mediocrity.
Mine too
@@EBIndy Combined with Government Malaise
The bigger crime is charging $50K for a $23k car, Fake leather and plastic and recycled pop cans cars are not worth $50k
Oh so paying $75-80,000 for a plastic and recycled 1/2 ton pickup truck is ok then? ALL cars and trucks are overpriced and not worth half of the price on the sticker so your comment makes no sense.
@@bluejacketsfan60 What comment are you reading?
Who said it's ok to pay $75 k for a truck?
I have been saying for years the only way to get the prices down is for people to stop buying them,
The companies making these and selling them for 5x and 10x what they are worth to people can do it because people are willing to pay it
Ill sell you my house for 1.5 mill if you are willing to pay that even though it's 70 years old and only worth $60.000k at best.
I just seen someone pay $450.000 for the exact same house as I have just last summer,
These big companies have all the equipment and supply chain already set up and can make and sell these cars for $10k and still make a profit but if people will pay 6x that price then that's going to be the price,
We know and they know these cars are junk we and they know the price should be $20 to $40k max but people are paying these prices so why would the company lower the price?
have you seen anyone protesting In front of the dealers about the Price?
Have you seen anyone showing price difference from 10 years ago to today for the same trucks?
Have you seen anyone showing the price for a car in '' country '' vs here for the same car?
No and as long as people walk in and pay there is no reason for them to lower the price,
Every time I see someone with a new car It makes me angry because they are the reason for the crazy prices,
Yes, because a pickup truck can actually do work or tow trailers and boats @bluejacketsfan60
Please show me a top trim midsize suv you can buy brand new for less than $50k USD.
@@HappyBuffalo-ky9ni Show me as well, I won't buy it because they should be $25k max not $50k, At $50k that car will be in the junkyard before you have it paid of, I have a friend who bought a new car 4 years ago and now she is paying $600 a month plus all the repairs out of pocket because the warranty time and miles are done,
Avoid Hyundai/ Kia like the plague. Peeling paint will be your least concern. They burn oil and blow engines. People buy them because they have fancier interiors compared with similarly priced cars but they do this by cutting quality elsewhere.
Yup. My oil compsunption is insane. Can’t wait to get rid if this junk and get a Toyota .
My 2016 kia soul eats oil like a starved animal. Im surprised my engine hasnt blown yet too. My 2017 honda crv with over 100k miles has no issues and runs just like the day i bought it. Never buying kia/hyundai again
@@dennisalcordo2789 ever !! Toyota here I come .
@@MsKolo90 do it! I just bought a 2024 toyota grand highlander. At least i know ill be able to keep it for a long time
If you want a good car with a good interior, go with Mazda, their interiors are awesome, plus the car that is wrapped around the interior is pretty darn good too.
Here's why this is happening. The following is what many vehicle manufacturers use with some variying pretreatments. When the vehicle is in manufacturing, the body is run on a conveyor line. It first goes through a wash of either acidic or alkaline chemical. Alkaline cleaners/surfactants are superior to acidic cleaners. Then a rinse, then sometimes another wash or a rinse. Then into a pretreatment of a bonderizing chemical to make the paint or primer to stick better. So far, no problem! The next in line is a tank full of an electrofied primer material called electrocoat. It is a primer that the body is run/lowered into a large tank and this tank is electrofied whereas an operator can adjust exactly how much primer is applied "everywhere" on the body. It's a neat operation and this primer is a very good part of the pretreatment. Again, so far, so good. The next part of this pretreatment is to run the body into an oven to cure this primer "Partially". I say partially because, this primer cannot be fully cured or the topcoat/paint can "delaminate" if the primer is not cured enough or too much! This is called an intercoat adhesion issue. It is imperative for the paintline operations to insure proper voltage and curing is perfect everytime. So when it is not in specification, the hot and cold will come into play and eventually the paint will peel because the paint will not be able to stick properly to the primer, causing the delamination. This is why you're seeing what your seeing.
I heard a while back that the reason. The paint peels is because here in America when they paint the car. They have to use water-based paint for air pollution concerns. When you buy a car from overseas like maybe Japan or Korea that's built there. They can paint it with any kind of paint they want. And they don't use water-based. So the paint is much better and sticks better.
What about the hoods/truck lids? They are attached after the vehicle is E-coated. If the paint films are low, under or over baked paint, or the paint is prepped wrong. Wrong solvent added to reduce to spray , or too much or too little. Paint Robots not being cleaned properly. It could be crappy paint from the supplier. Or a raw material supplier changed the chemistry of their material & didn't inform the Paint making company of the change.
This is what happens if you don’t pay your paint subscription monthly fee.
48k for a Hyundai? Girl bye 👋🏾 😂
Facts that’s wild that’s a used Range Rover lol
She aint lying people paying that everyday
That's a lot of money for a car that's as disposable after use as a Bic lighter. My 2019 Bullitt Mustang was 43K brand new.
@@AWAKE_PA As disposable cars go the 80s was really where it was at. The Reliant K was great, as long as it wasn't raining. When it rained the front wheel drive torque steer felt like it would break your arm. Other race to the bottom vehicles included the Champ, Fiesta, Yugo, Rabbit, Audi 5000 Turbo, anything British and the Chevette. There was also this foolish "Cadillac" based on the Cavalier chassis. It was a blase time when carbs were going away and emissions controls were moving from analog to digital (same stupid Check Engine light).
@@derekheim8172 So true. Even the late 70's. I once had a 78 Mustang II. Looked like a Pinto or Bobcat. K-cars, Vega's, Volares, the list goes on. And what GMC almost did to the legacy of Cadillac, it's amazing it survived. There was a handful of 80's worth keeping like vettes, mustangs, camaros, firebirds. But that decade sucked.
Even a $500 Maaco paint job is better than that.
If you don't mind getting paint on the weather stripping, muffler, tires, lights, windows etc 😆
Ut oh better get maaco 🤣🤣
That's a lot of money for a car that's as disposable after use as a Bic lighter.
True after 100k it is a crapshoot with many modern junk.
At least the BIC can get you high! 😂
Bic is way better
@@valiantone395 Agree. They work every time and you get your money's worth out of them. Can't say the same for a 48k car that's scrap in 5 years.
You know these people didn't do the slightest bit of research before buying a car because they bought a Hyundai.
They buy these cars cause they look cool, not because they have substance like a Mazda.
Do most women do adequate research on vehicles like that? No. They buy it bc it’s cute or bc someone they know usually another woman has the car
Your 100% right😉
@@mercuryredstone2235
Mazda is like Mitsubishi
Both made in Japan so you have some good quality but nowhere near a Toyota or Honda
@@CarloRossi-o2n Scotty Kilmer might disagree.
It is called Paint Delamination. I it is caused from Hyundai cheating and cutting out the primer coats after the sealer to save a few dollars per car. GM had an enormous Paint Delam recall back in the 80's / 90's.. As a manger of body and paint shops for GM dealers then I can tell you this problem will not go away.
I can state that when the GM reps came in to inspect they just looked at cars and said, "I do not see anything"..GM initially denied every claim, as is Hyundai, all of the paint claims, then they were forced to own up and had to strip and paint cars..We were stripping and painting peelers to the tune of maybe numerous per week.
Most cars that peel are white whether GM or Hyundai. Why?? There is a factual cause reason which I do not know, but, It has to do with the ultra violets penetrating the color and clear coats.
Let me guess, the infamous Lumina right?
Wasn't some of the problems back in the late 80's, early 90's because of EPA regulations?
i had it worse than you..i was a tech!..lol..i hated them all over peelers!..we got like 40 hours paint time to completely strip and repaint the entire car..came in on monday and had to go on friday and the manager would give me like 5 other jobs for the week to do also..i was working around mid to late 90's..mostly grand ams, grand prix..cutlass's..roofs on the montana vans..sometimes the paint would all just blow off with a air hose, but most of the time we had to use stripper..and it was the real air craft remover stripper that you probably cant even get today..the peeler stripper in a spray can didnt work most of the time
@@DG-oq8hj yes
Donald, my dad had 2 Chevy Trucks in the late 80's and early 90's. A blue 1500 and a burgundy 2500 truck, and both of them had the famous paint peeling problem.
Toyota had this issue, but they covered the repair and extended the warranty to 14 years.
Also, white.
@@UmmYeahOk it seems to be common with white automotive paints, i remember white chevy vans had a similar issue.
One of the issues with owning a Toyota
Chevy Express same thing after about 15 years. white ceramic-like sheets peeling off
Ford had same problem in mid 80's using Ditzler primer having no UV protection on
some pickups. Mine was recalled with a free paint job.
i like how when you as a little person approach these companies and they tell you NO, but as soon as the NEWS contacts them, its "OH wait lets fix this"
As an automotive painter I see this a lot, and it's due to poor adhesion between the color and the primer/sealer. If it's happening on a vehicle that's never been repainted due to repair or whatever, it's a factory issue, and Hyundai should be recalling these vehicles. I can also say I've seen it happen on Hyundai cars as old as 2001, so it's not a limited occurrence. GM had the same issue in the 80's....
Yep, when the GM Van Nuys plant switched from oil based solvent to water based in 1987 to comply with EPA regulations.
Cost of saving the planet, only use water based paint.
Older American here. I've got a V6 white 2010 Santa Fe, purchased it new. Had paint issues on the hood & on corners around the back hatch in 2021. Reported the issue to my dealer & they basically said, not my problem, you are out of warrantee.
It’s amazing how many people park their new cars in the driveway and keep $200 worth of garage sale crap in their garage, yeah it’s not the cause but an observation.
did you even watch the video?🤔
@ yes I disc, did you even read my comment? I noticed that the first complaint had her car backed into the driveway (a GenZ fetish?) and it always piques my curiosity as to why people do it. One neighbor in my area thought it was ridiculous that people park their cars……in their garages. She was like; what? Am I supposed to open my garage door every day? Um yeah, that’s why we have OPENERS”. So don’t read too much into comments, because it’s just an observation in this case.
I know so many people who do that and it drives me crazy.
What's in the garage nothing but old boxes and garbage and you're expensive car or trucks in the driveway with the elements like hail and salt
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT is the ANSWER!!
Not the first manufacturer that’s had paint flaking off. Boils down to water based paints and primers.
Obviously wrong, else everyone else with water based products would have the same issue.
Forty years after the switch to water based automotive paints it is hard to believe that excuse any more.
@ I see peeling paint on cars almost every day. Water based paint is far from perfect.
Aren't Hyundai/Kia the cars that are easily stolen?
In "certain" neighborhoods, yeah.
On certain models,yes. Didn't install a basic interlock system most cars have had for decades.
Some insurance companies won't insure that brand of vehicle.
They had a recall for that. I had mine done, it took about 45 minutes.
If it's a Hyundai... Contact corporate! They covered ours even out of warranty! No conflict no argument! They just had us get 3 estimates and they took care of it. They DON"T tell you any of this, but the service techs know it, but were told NOT to tell people.
I wouldn't worry about the paint..
The engine is going to blow soon
💯, it happened to my co workers sonata hybrid, car only had 93,000 miles 😂
My grandmas sonata made it to 70,000 miles until a rod went outside the block.
@billygildark4565
That's about right
That's why I don't buy a Hyundai or Kia
Did the warranty cover it
I got a friend that happened to and Suresky the dealer wouldn't cover the warranty because she didn't pay for the car's maintenance at that dealership.
She had her cousin who owns a shop change oil perform regular maintenance on the car with receipts and still they voided the warranty.
My 2016 elantra has 137.8k and is puring likw a kitten, .y boss has a 2012 elantra with 250k and still going. I dont see hyundai being bad brand. You're just being biased
Naw. It's better than any Ford or Chevy.
Who is more ignorant ? HYUNDAI, or those who plunk their money down on this crap.
$48,000 for a Hyundai? Are you people slow?
That was my reaction! Try about 22k tops, and even then I wouldn’t want one.
Whats the brand got to do with it? $48,000 for any car is highway robbery. You’ve got to remember that it’s 2025 Hyundai and Kia are seriously competing against groups like BMW and Mercedes.
it cost that much because gov shat on the dollar, and gave you the invoice for it
Psssst Tariffs soon...
@@Blargaldalien u realize many of them are made in USA...
At least it hasn’t caught on fire yet
...yet... 😂😂😂
Or stolen
It's not a Tesla.
"That's perfectly normal."- Chevy Van owner
There is a large class action lawsuit for this exact same issue against Hyundai in Australia
When they say it's not a defect, it actually is a defect. Bad paint and poor-quality control.
Strange, it seems when the EPA gets involved in everything including the chemicals we can't use in things like... paint... weird things happen
The change from Oil to Water based was due to the VOC out-gassing during the curing processes.
Exactly. The government gets involved in way too many things. Also why chrome plating is so expensive.
I passed on Hyundai/Kia years ago when I saw how cheaply they’re made.
Simply can not understand the fascination with this brand.
Why not a class action lawsuit?
Should be...Only way to stand up anymore is in court ...
Water based auto paint is a problem across the board not just foreign pieces of crap .
I mean it's a Hyundai, they aren't known for quality.
some models will start by inserting the USB end of a thumb drive into the ignition key Opening
@@mikemiller659not anymore - they fixed that problem...... unlike an American car maker.....just like Ford when they screwed me on the Windstar cracked rear axle recall.
Imaging buying a poor quality vehicle to begin with..... Then being surprised when the vehicle falls apart.
How is hyundai poor quality? My 2016 elantta has 138k miles. Just think alot of haters are a biased on brands, like alot of people love their chevy or words, etc. Every brand has issues. Don't act like it's one or the other or else they wouldn't be in business
@@Yinzermakesvids
Its just fact. No need to take it personal.
Like with anything else, quality varies by brands.
Hyundai and Kia for example, are amongst the worse. There will always be a few that hold up, especially if they are well maintained.
Evidence of their low quality can be easily observed. Just look at them on the road, they are quite literally falling apart. More over, values plummet at a rate far faster to other brands.
@@Yinzermakesvidsbecause it’s a low quality brand. Do you not realize that there are people who have metrics on all of the brands across thousands of vehicles?
@@Yinzermakesvids Because the reliability ratings say so.
That happened to me years ago (1990-91’ish) with my Chevrolet Corsica. Fortunately, Chevrolet accepted responsibility for the defect and repainted my vehicle! I pray Hyundai does the same!🙏🏽
I remember the Chevy Corsica having that paint peeling issue. You think after all these years these manufacturers would have figured that out by now
Every GM product in the 90’s had paint issues.
Paint on my wifes 2015 Honda Fit started to peel off 5 years ago in exactly the same way. Our local dealer West City Honda and Honda Canada screwed us around until both the factory warranty and an additional paint warranty extension expired. The white pearl paint just falls off in the rain just like this ladies Hyundai. My wife loved her little car prior to this happening , I have since paid to have the roof , tailgate and all four doors and the top of the front fenders re painted at a cost of $4000 . We will never buy another Honda and advise anyone else not to as they knowingly produce an inferior product and fail to honour their warrantys.
Honda have weak automatic transmissions too.
I have a white 2015 Honda Fit also. It started peeling right when the 7-year extended warranty expired and showing no signs of stopping. I've been looking at videos to spot paint it myself to try and stop it. It keeps popping up slowly in different areas though. I see other makes with white paint peeling as well.
Unfortunately paint isn't what it used to be. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT PROTECT US, now go away
Something about white paint, Honda had recall for white paint too.
And older Chevy and fords lol too. White just comes off in sheets on them all!
I seen Toyotas and Nissans with this issue too
White vehicles look like appliances to me on most models. Very few look good in white.
You can thank the epa for their mandate for the garbage water based paints.
But not all car makers have this problem so I would blame Hyundai first.
This is 100% a factory prep issue causing adhesion issues between the top coat and the base primer coats. GM went through similar issues in 1987 when they switched from an oil based solvent paint to water based due to EPA regulations. It caused wide-spread peeling issues.
I have a nine year old white vehicle with 115,000 miles no problem with the paint or anything else, it was made in Japan.
Hyundai reputation now = ZERO.
Thank you for reporting on this. Shame on Hyundai
I had a G80 Genesis as a rental recently. Same issue starting to form on the front bumper. Silver paint.
I have a Kia and had no issue getting my door repainted after I rubbed the clear coat off and blamed a defect.
These people must be complete pushovers
I once had a KIA paint problem.....
KIA dealership corrected it and a month later the same problem arose. KIA couldn't be bothered second time around so got rid before the problem got worse.
I refuse to buy Hyundai/Kia. Lie and deny any issues.
The engine in my Kia Optima is a ticking time bomb. Do you think they care?
My 05 sonata was a pleasure
@@JonDoe-cg4mr Yeah I've heard those 4th gens aren't bad, Hyundai/Kia started having more problems in 2010s I think
All Hyundai and Kia are problems knocking at your door .
Sounds like a dealer problem - my dad is a used car dear and has gotten engines replaced at no cost for ones he's bought at auction with a blown engine so don't tell me they don't take care of their problems.
If you bought a Hyundai in at least the last 3/4 years, that's on you. I dont even buy a flashlight without reading reviews!
Same here.... I read up on and ask about beers that I'm gonna consume....so far no paint peeling on the cans. Quality has been consistent.
Newer cars are using water based paints. Could that be the issue?
Water based clear coat and paint.
All car paint is now water based. Sure looks pretty when first applied. Easy to clean too. Changing colors is a snap. Too bad it's not lacquer based. I miss those days.
I never understood people buying $45+ for Hyundai
These are just junk cars
Buy Honda Toyota you will have less issues. You’re better off buying 2000 Toyota Corolla than brand new Hyundai
This exact issue happened on my old Mercury Sable years ago. It seemed at the time that it was my specific color code which has issues adhering to the primer/base coat or whatever is underneath the paint.
Ford tried to paint vehicles without primer back in the late 1980's. Silvers/greys were the worst. They were finally forced to recall them for repainting.
When you buy some of the cheapest new cars on the market, you get what you pay for. At this point it's common knowledge how bad Hyundai vehicles are both inside and out. People, do your research before you buy a car! The handful of people who manage to get these cars to 200,000 miles or more are the exception to the rule.
My Mom had this happen with her brand new Pontiac GrandAm in 1990. There were several blue Grand AMs around town with peeling paint.
called a throw a way
what ever happened to companies building quality products? This is SO annoying
Talk to the EPA. Water based paint is more safer for the green tree environment or something LOL
Gm had the same problem using crap primer. This has occurred many times over the years by several manufacturers.
wow this problem is still happening ? had an 07 sonata that started pealing after 4-5 years ...
foreign junk , buy American the job you save may be your own
02 WHITE Chevy Express, same
This is what happens when you "save a little bit of money" on buying a hyundai.
you buy a cheap, korean car.
what do you expect?
even a ten year old toyota is a better bet.
Chevy had this same problems on its 90's truck. I'm betting it's the same exact problem
Yes, into 2002 as well . . my WHITE Chevy Express van
ND neighbor had a 'Yota PU doing the same thing. Dealer claimed the truck had been immersed in salt water. Original wiring worked fine, but... "It has been immersed."
Remember Dodge Neons from 1995.
Also the exploding Pinto gas tanks. The crapola mixed metals of the Vega. Engineers lol idiots.
Glad I saw This, No Palisade for us.
The tactic is to build just barely to get past warranty before issues become noticeable.
The problem is pervasive. It's called corporate greed.
This was a Nissan problem for a long time as well. Same white color.
Seems like the primer they used didn't bond properly to the top coat for whatever reason (maybe too smooth) so over time and moisture/ chipping etc, the paint would flake.
My mom’s 2013 Nissan Rogue has this problem, Nissan didn’t pay or offer to repaint, now she’s stuck with the car and has to save to get it repainted out of her own pocket.
I had a Mazda in the 1990's that had the same issue. After Mazda told me that they would not do anything about it, I decided that I would never own another one again.
Owners should ask Hyundai to give them a reason to buy another vehicle from them.
It is a big problem and it has to do with the adhesion from the metal. Toyota took care of their customers with this same issue.
But the primer layer covering the metal is just fine so how is it a metal problem?
@ its the adhesion to the e coat. Its not bonding.
What do you expect it a Hyundai/Kia. They are junk throw away vehicles.
A few years ago they did acknowledge the issue and offered a repair. Problem was that the window was so small when called to book an appointment you couldn’t get in before the cutoff.
* * Laughs in Ford Crown Vic * *
Lol I've had a crown vic and peeling paint is a common issue esp on p71
We do not "believe" 🤦🏽
Kia/Hyundai/Genesis is horrendous. They’ve been bad since the 1980’s Hyundai Excel.
Chevy had the same problem with their white paint in the mid to late '90s. They claimed it was owner negligence.
Its a Hyundai. 😮
Stop buying Hyundai and kias. They're garbage. Use that money instead for a 3-5 year old certified used Toyota
My mother has owned a new Elantra every 3 years since 2002. She drives them until they get about 250,000 miles. With the exception of the first Elantra she’s never had anything major go wrong with them. She’s currently driving a 23 model, outside of normal wear and tear issues, she hasn’t had and big issues.
250,000 miles in 3 years? This woman keeps the road hot.
Guy living in Guadalajara, Mexico here. I started to have the same peeling paint issue on mid 2024 with three cars; 2005 Toyota Rav 4, 2014 Toyota Corolla and 2005 Nissan Pathfinder. All of them are white. None of my other cars have this issue no matter the year. It is weird this only happens to white cars though.
Mazda is the new Toyota for Quality
As an owner of a 2021 Mazda 3, with 37,500 miles, I disagreee. The pearl white paint on my Mazda is as thin as heck. I have chips all over my front bumper and hood. I cannot imagine what my paint will look like in another 3 years. The plastic in the interior is cheap and thin as well, scratching easily and causing many rattles and squeaks. The engine and transmission have been reliable so far, but build quality when it comes to body integrity is just not up to Toyota, Honda, or even Subaru levels.
Wait till it starts leaking oil and antifreeze to the point your HOA, says you can’t bring the car into the neighborhood. The dealer tells you, oh it’s not leaking enough to replace the engine under warranty.
We have a 2016 mdx pearl white. Paint peeled off the roof
It's nothing new here, folks. Paint chipping on white vehicles has been peeling around for decades. Chevys, Ford, etc. It's just cheap paint from the manufacturers.
It's just another way to save them a buck fifty for each vehicle. 🤠
Paint has been peeling from cars for years. You can thank the automated paint sprayer the oems use and try to cover up a sorry paint job with a clear coat. 40 years ago the paint jobs on cars today would be unacceptable. We can also give a huge thanks to the EPA.
Same issue with white Toyotas in Australia. Now subject to a class action.
It's garbage water-based paint. Mandated by the EPA none the less.
Found the low information maga. If things the cause why isn’t it affecting every vehicle?
I've heard the reason the paint peels is here in America. When the car is painted or assembled here they have to use water-based paint for pollution concerns. When you get a car that's assembled and painted in Korea or Japan. They don't have to do that, so the paint works as good as it used to back in the old days.
Let’s get real all cars are junk.
That’s not correct. Honda and Toyota are still well built. Mazda and Nissan are close behind them in quality. Hyundai/ Kia are bottom of the barrel for quality
@@calvinwalker4654Nissan is definitely behind Mazda tho
@@calvinwalker4654 +1 for Mazda, I haven't had a single issue with mine in 10 years of owning it - and its fun af to drive.
@@FearMongeringSellstell that to my 250k miles rogue, never been repaired.
@@calvinwalker4654 Did Nissan ever fix their crappy transmission problems?
Listen and listen good when you run your cars to when I'm automated car washes the pressure hitting the body work is so hard it loosens the paint off from the primer.
Chevy/GMC had a problem with this about 20 years ago
The paint on my 2016 White Orchid Pearl Honda FIT started peeling three years after purchase. Honda sent a letter to every owner identifying the problem and extending the warranty for the paint to seven years after purchase. They did the right thing and made good on it. My entire car was completely refinished free of charge with the exception of the plastic parts which weren't affected.
Any white GM owner from 1993-2006 knows their pain.
Looks like every white chevy express van ever 😂
Learned my lesson with GM lemons in 1984.
@@johnball8758 it was 1982 for me, i gave up on GM.
@@johnball8758 yea Dextron antifreeze wrecking havoc on engine gaskets
This is nothing new. Pretty much every automaker has had paint peeling problems at one time or another. In 1970 Chrysler had a problem with their inviolet/plum crazy. In the late '80s, GM had a problem with their light blue, and silver. That came off in sheets. Ford had trouble at one time, with certain cars. Today, pickup trucks with painted bumpers, they don't peel but they chip like crazy.
Buy junk - Get junk
The paint did not chemically bond to the E coating ( epoxy coating ) which means unless the whole painted surface is stripped and repainted there will be more peeling - Hyundai also has an issue with their power windows where the weak link is a plastic drum roller that usually strips out causing failure on every window.