THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST BY TELLING EVERYONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER VIDEOS TO DO IT CORRECTLY IT SHOWS EVEN THE BEST LIKE YOURSELF Is willing to say you watch other people's videos at times WE ALL APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO THANK YOU MY FRIEND
This needle bearing is a known issue of going bad in 2005-2023 4WD Tacomas that have been lifted or install larger aftermarket rims and tires that change the angle of the CV axle into the differential. Probably 4Runners too that use the same front differential. My 07 Tacoma is all original and that bearing lasted 460,000 miles before making that noise, replaced it with the same ECGS bushing. At 544,000 miles now, still quiet. Easier to shove a typical plastic shopping bag into the hole before placing the removal tool inside. Great video, thanks
Tacomas and 4runners on the same year are prone to needle bearing issues. My 2024 4runner with only 8500 miles has a humming noise with vibration on the floor around 40-50mph. Toyota has a TSB 0075-23 available online. Made an appointment to fix the issue next week. In the future, I'll be upgrading to ECGS Clamp bushing for permanent fix. Great video!!
Yes sir, on that plastic bag tip! Lost a nut on the back end of the custom removal tool. When removing mine. Cost me extra time. Having to flush it out of my Spyder gears. Removing the drain plug was the biggest headache.
Im still not quite sure whats really happenning here as far as im concern he says thrs a hum but i cant hear mine but front body shakes at 40 mph. And why is he not using the same part to replace it or is it because toyota says so or what? Will this be a concern if i keep driving it?
Thanks for sharing this; I don’t own a Toyota nor have I experienced this issue on another vehicle but it’s enjoyable to see great mechanics do quality work like this.
I recently determined that my 2016 Tundra has this same issue and ordered the bearing replacement kit from East Coast. I'm waiting for a less rainy day to crawl around my driveway. Thanks for the video!
Great video I just retired six months ago but i still miss the challenges I always found them rewarding. Thank goodness I got into it 40 + years ago I always believed if you take care of the customer they will always take care of you.
What a coincidence b/c I'm hearing and feeling that same vibration noise under the floorboard while driving 50+ mph. I just crawled underneath the truck and put my hand on the CV axle on driver's side and could feel a lot of play at the diff. I know exactly what to do now. Thanks for sharing this!
Hey Sheerwood, enjoy watching your diagnostic videos here in Australia, very interesting info. Just a little tip I learnt many years ago on installing oil seals with a rubber coating on the outside. I always lubricate the outside of the seal prior to installing, this prevents the rubber from picking up on the metal bore of the housing as it goes in. Even notice many service manuals also say to do this, found it makes installation a breeze. Has worked for me over many years of machine maintenance. Once the seal is in place the rubber squeezes out the oil to form a tight seal to the housing. Wishing you all happy new year, Cheers
I like to Dremel with a wire wire wheel to remove rust and clean up the hole if needed. A few rubs on the ID of the hole and edge with fine sand paper help to clean the rusty edge . I would also warm the casing to get the seal to slip in easier, I use silicone to lube the OD of the seal and help seal it in.
Thank you for this video. First off, I'd like to say that it's always a pleasure watching real old-fashioned mechanics actually diagnose a problem themselves rather than rely on a computer to tell them what to do! Also, I bought a brand new 2022 Taco (TRD Off Road) with the "factory" TRD 2-inch lift (installed at the dealer). I had this humming noise the day I drove it home from the shop. Had it in and out of the dealer for probably 6 months with them working directly with the Toyota engineers to try to figure out what was causing this. After replacing the front differential TWICE, I still have that rhythmic humming. I got so tired of taking it into the shop, that I decided to just live with it. Now I can take this video to the service manager and show him what this problem is so they can finally fix it! Thank you, guys.
Yep I did this bearing swap years ago with no issues to date on my 2008 Tacoma. The issue becomes more notable when you put a lift on your vehicle and the East Coast Gear Supply Bushing is the go-to fix for that. The bearing swap and replacement is pretty simple, just stuff a blue shop towel behind there and be sure to remove it once the bushing is installed. (At least that's how I did it.) 👍
I have a 21 Tacoma I bought new. Had this vibration at 50 mph with zero load on the motor since new. Carried it to the dealer and told the service manager exactly how to drive the truck to feel the vibration. I knew there answer to it would be “they all do this” or “we couldn’t get it to go it”. #2 was the winner. I looked at the service ticket and none of what I told the service manager was written on it. Dealers……a license to steal.
I haven't come up on that vibration problem on any of the Toyota tacomas that I have worked on with four-wheel drive yet! This is like this talk text message that haven't come across a problem like this yet is gold!
I believe East Coast Gear Supply makes that kit! Those guys are awesome. I sent them by Toyota rear diff that I blew up and they replaced the gears and bearings for under a grand with a 5 year warranty!! Because I sent them my diff instead of buying a complete one off the shelf the turn around was like a week and a half with shipping! Can’t say enough about them! Everyone else wanted double. Same gear brand etc. If ya ever need differentials check em out! Super nice fold as well! Cheers
Awesome... my 4runner will need this some day. I'm almost certain of it. Great to see a better filmed vid with some good explanations. Great stuff guys ! and happy New Year too. Keep up the great work.
Trick I learned at a car manufacturer. If you have a harmonic check to see which “order” it is. IE twice crank speed, 3x, 1/2.. Then go to the components that rotate at those speeds.
Right. And when you have a beating noise, it means you have two frequencies that are almost identical. Examples are a tread pattern that repeats fours times around a tire beating against a 4.10 axle with driveshaft unbalance. Or an alternator running at 3x crank rpm beating against a 6 cylinder firing order.
Good job guys as always and very educationa. I love the videos as I am also a garage owner here in scotland and have lernd a good few tips from you guys. Keep up the good work .
Gentalmen great find. I wrote into before, I am a retired truck mechanic but can't help myself from staying up on tools and problem fixes. If you don't mind, can you give me the info on the vibration sensor and software that I can look up and research. That a really cool device. Second question, I take it you read something about this issue? Maybe in a OEM TSB or maybe trade journal? Great find guys. Damn I wish they had some of those really neat tools when I was still working. Great channel guys, you guys make me proud there are still technicians that really care and want to do quality work. Thank you John
East Coast Gear is where I bought the bushing and bearing puller. It cost me something like $65 a few years ago. It took me about 2 hrs to do the repair at home.
You guys are the best! Yours is my go to channel on how to do things right without all the shortcuts and halfway attitudes. Love the honesty, knowledge and get it done right attitude. Your employees should be pinching themselves that they are under your wing learning the best habits and skills . Happy New Year!
Very interested in your use of scopes. I was weary at first, mostly because I don't understand them, but after watching your other videos, and now this one I am onboard...!
This is a great video! I really enjoyed it. You treat your techs great, like the important people they are! I don't know if I could have a doggy at work though. I would spent all my time giving it ear rubs and butt scratches.
Sticking the bushing in Dry Ice while you were removing the other items out would work also. Done that plenty of times with bushings and a heat gun on the housing. Not on trucks, aircraft, but same concept. It’s all the same.
I did this repair almost 200k miles ago on my 2010 and can confirm: Zero issues since the bushing was installed. The CV shaft had to be replaced because it was chewed to bits.
New to tacomas but my 15 has a vibration right around 40 mph. I thought it may be the tires since they were worn pretty good. After new tires it’s still there. I’m going to check this out to see if it’s the same issue I’m having. Love the channel!
Didnt know Cobra Kai Terry Silver was an auto technician now…. Seriously though, I really enjoy the channel and professional way the vehicles are meticulously diagnosed
As soon as you said "whooom, whooom, whooom" I knew it was a needle bearing. Had that with my 4Runner. Thought it was my tires til my techs put it on the lift and found the play in the CV axle.
Looks like a good fix, I’ll keep this in mind. Thanks! It’s hind sight now and it looked like it went in pretty easy, but putting the bushing in the freezer for a while would probably have made it even easier. 👍👍🇺🇸
I am not a mechanic but I changed out the bushing on my son’s 2018 forerunner and it worked great they have a kit that they sold with all the tools to remove the existing and install the new solve the vibration problem thanks for the video
A lot of the problems I've seen on these is induced by larger tires and lift kits. Everyone likes to lift their daily drivers, but it can and often does have consequences. Even the larger tires many go to causes the transmission to not use high gear and the differential gearing needs to be changed to stop the lugging. Of course besides normal wear and tear. Nice work.
A Known problem with Tacomas and 4Runners. Upon installing larger tires or a lift kit, many people will install a differential drop kit to keep the geometry consistent to stock.
I normally freeze all bushings and bearing before pressing them in. Seened easy on this one, but freezing forr several hours or overnight can be helpful.
@ When cold metal meets warm metal it pulls moisture from the air. After you install the sleeve it’s not likely you could get a shop towel into those tight tolerances and dry it off.
@@Notfiveo0you can wipe off any ice crystals before installing it. Any other moisture is minimal condensation, which occurs normally during use of the vehicle. The gear oil is engineered to deal with condensation, and it will evaporate later when getting up to temperature.
God bless you on doing white epoxy floor. We just did ours in April as demanded by our senior guy….. my lord it looks terrible although could be because we don’t have a floor cleaning machine.
Heads up. If you do this job yourself, I think the ECGS bushing does have an inside / outside edge specified. Also, a little RTV silicone on the outside of the new seal is a good idea. I didn’t use RTV and got a leak a few hundred miles later. I tore it all apart again, added a tiny amount of RTV, and it has been good since. PS - The vibration on my 2020 4Runner at 65mph improved. Probably 80% better.
Had a 2024 Camry need a front wheel bearing replaced. Took it off the car and had some coworkers spin it by hand. They looked at each other and then at me because there was no play. Put it back on the car, put a pry bar up to it and you could hear a rasping noise coming from the bearing. At 40-50mph you’d hear the same noise you were talking about in this video
Needle bearing in the diff. Happened to my old 07 Tacoma I used to have. Started noticing it around 100k miles. I actually never fixed it. It never got any worse. Traded the truck in for a Tundra when it had 127k miles.
Both of our 2022 4Runners have this issue. They replaced my differential under warranty and it didn’t fix it obviously. Now I have a steering wheel shake they can’t figure out and gave up on. My hum gets worse in winter. Thanks Toyota…
Hell ya. My 2005 has been doing that and the mechanic didn’t know why,said it could be many things,time for a new mechanic. Anyway thanks now I can fix it
This is needed for all Tacomas, 4Runners, FJ Cruisers & Tundra’s that gets a lift. We replace once they decide to do a lift. The best way to do this repair is shove rages inside. Super easy repair.
i suspected the tires by the way, I had huming noise but was around 60 Miles on 17 rav4 turned out to be the tires the whole time. thanks for the video
I've done quite a few of these over the last 9 years or so. It is a common problem with these trucks, especially if they have a lift in them. My personal truck which sees woods abuse, was on 35s for the last 6 years and now is on 37s hasn't had a problem since I did the ECGS bushing 85k miles ago. I personally hang the caliper, take out the tie rod end, and remove the 2 19mm bolts that connect the spindle and lower ball joint so I can swing the spindle out the way to have more room to work. I normally take a smaller plastic bag and stuff it into the differential beyond the needle bearing and leave it until after installing the bushing. My removal tool, like the one in your vid, needs some persuasion to go all the way in behind the needle bearing, which sometimes causes to back shoulder of the bearing to break off, hence using the plastic bag to block the hole. ECGS used to just send out the smallest diameter adapter and the handle piece from a harbor freight race and seal driver set as the install tool for the bushing itself. Almost looks like the seal install tool you got is the biggest one in the kit. www.harborfreight.com/bearing-race-and-seal-driver-set-10-piece-63261.html
I tried to do this swap but the bushing would not go in. The bushing really seems to big to hammer in. Its crazy that East Coast Gear Supply makes the tolerance so tight after all the needle bearing went in with out any trouble at all. Do you have any tips on how to make the bushing go in? I heard you can freeze it , I am skeptical that would make much difference. Now I am stuck with a damaged bushing. The good thing is the bearing went back in without any problem and is working good. I found my 4Runners issue was bad SPC UCR bushings. I would love to hear your opinion on how to get this thing installed since you have done quite a few already. Thanks
@@iQuantium Yes , normally the first thing I do is put the bushing in the freezer. Thermal expansion and contraction happen at a lot faster of a rate than most might think. Is it possible they sent you a bushing that had a mushroomed end? I have yet to have one not go in, but some definitely go in a lot easier than others. You also really need to make sure the bushing is straight and square to the hole since it is a press fit. If you use the driver kit I linked above, the smallest adapter fits for the bushing, then I use a mini sledge sideways to start. You can be less accurate with your hits while focusing on getting the bushing to start to go in properly.
This is the same problem the old S10 and gmc Jimmy’s had but it would get worse while at constant speed and hitting a slight bump. I’ve done many of them and they always came in after another shop unloaded the parts cannon on them
I check this bearing every time I’m under the front end of my 09. I can’t believe how much play is there was even at 30K and at 176K it’s not that different. But I have stock wheels. There’s a ball bearing on the other (long) side of the dif seems like a bad decision by Toyota to go cheap on this side. Great video, gives me confidence I can do this if and when the time comes.
Another way to tell the bearing is bad is that the axle shaft that goes into that bearing has excessive play. Also get the puller and installer . That will save you time and money as I originally did not and had to chisel and grind the old bearing out. And tried to use a socket to install the new one and damaged it.
I have replaced three of those. The first one came with the special removal tool. Then after that. I just got the bushing and new seal. Cured them all! I put a plastic bag stuffed in so the tool wouldn't fall out. Pure genius to make such a simple tool that works that easily! One of the Tacomas was mine that I did. Could have taken to dealer under warranty, but I preferred to do it myself. As I had it lifted, and didn't want to deal with them trying to say that's what caused it. When they know it's a problem. Did I see part of the rubber peal up at the 11 o'clock and 3 o'clock position when you installed it?
I’m having this issue with my 4Runner. The same issues your describing, coasting 40MPH and the vibration with that sound. Have a 2023 4Runner that’s stock everything. I bring it in the dealership & of course they can’t “replicate” it after driving 2 miles he says.
Common issue with the 2005 and up, we have 2001 Tacoma never given us a problem 240k now, not sure they make a bushing kit for 1997-2004 front differentials think the front differentials are different than the 2005 and up, I did replace the passenger side differential seal as it was leaking, had some vibration issues with ours, I ended up replaced the rack & pinon bushings and that seams to have calmed the front end down quit a bit, rack bushings make the truck feel new again. Like your shop, anyone that uses Wix filters I can see in the background knows what they are doing..... Just looked up the bushing and they in fact make a kit for the 7.5" front differentials for earlier Tacoma T100 and 4Runners, seams like it's problem with lifted trucks more so on ones that have more than 2.5" lifts, apparently the CV joint can put extra strain on that needle bearing if you don't use a differential drop kit to keep CV axle length more shallow. They also use a needle bearing on the passenger side of the differential, but believe the difference in out put on that aside of the differential makes loading more resistant do to physical design make load carrying stronger, I dont recall if there is a specific left or right with front CV's but I believe the drivers side is shorter than the passenger side which would make the drivers side more prone to loading characteristics due shorter shaft length ...
I live in the twin cities area of Minnesota and there's no road in the area where I could even test this. All the roads are subjected to frost heaving having bumps every 50-ft or so.
If you lift your truck like I did you need to correct the geometry back to stock on the cv-axles and rear panhard bar on these Toyotas .. mine is lifted 5 inches on 35 inch Mickey Thompson tires runs like new with 300k miles .. I got a front differential drop kit from toytec to make the axles straight in the front and a eimkeith panhard bar correction for the rear ..
I would have wire-brushed the loose rust and dirt off the outer surface of the opening to prevent grit from falling into the opening while banging the bearing and seal in... 'Cleanliness' is a huge part of proper maintenance...
THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST
BY TELLING EVERYONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER VIDEOS TO DO IT CORRECTLY
IT SHOWS EVEN THE BEST LIKE YOURSELF
Is willing to say you watch other people's videos at times
WE ALL APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO THANK YOU MY FRIEND
Yep, that s true professional. Doesn’t act like he was born with everything
This needle bearing is a known issue of going bad in 2005-2023 4WD Tacomas that have been lifted or install larger aftermarket rims and tires that change the angle of the CV axle into the differential. Probably 4Runners too that use the same front differential. My 07 Tacoma is all original and that bearing lasted 460,000 miles before making that noise, replaced it with the same ECGS bushing. At 544,000 miles now, still quiet. Easier to shove a typical plastic shopping bag into the hole before placing the removal tool inside. Great video, thanks
Bro nice!!! Got your money out of that truck. Mine is going strong but rotting away due to road salt in my area. Got it used like that.
Tacomas and 4runners on the same year are prone to needle bearing issues. My 2024 4runner with only 8500 miles has a humming noise with vibration on the floor around 40-50mph. Toyota has a TSB 0075-23 available online. Made an appointment to fix the issue next week. In the future, I'll be upgrading to ECGS Clamp bushing for permanent fix. Great video!!
Yes sir, on that plastic bag tip!
Lost a nut on the back end of the custom removal tool. When removing mine. Cost me extra time. Having to flush it out of my Spyder gears. Removing the drain plug was the biggest headache.
Im still not quite sure whats really happenning here as far as im concern he says thrs a hum but i cant hear mine but front body shakes at 40 mph. And why is he not using the same part to replace it or is it because toyota says so or what? Will this be a concern if i keep driving it?
@juliosdiy3206 take a look at your front axle carrier bearing if the body of the truck is shaking 🫨
This is great to assist all owners. Keep it up.
My 2013 Venza has this issue.. between 40 and 50 mph. Thanks for the video!
Your videos are 2 thumbs up!!! I’ve been a mechanic for over 50 years. I always learn something for you.
Thanks for sharing this; I don’t own a Toyota nor have I experienced this issue on another vehicle but it’s enjoyable to see great mechanics do quality work like this.
I recently determined that my 2016 Tundra has this same issue and ordered the bearing replacement kit from East Coast. I'm waiting for a less rainy day to crawl around my driveway.
Thanks for the video!
Great video I just retired six months ago but i still miss the challenges I always found them rewarding. Thank goodness I got into it 40 + years ago I always believed if you take care of the customer they will always take care of you.
What a coincidence b/c I'm hearing and feeling that same vibration noise under the floorboard while driving 50+ mph. I just crawled underneath the truck and put my hand on the CV axle on driver's side and could feel a lot of play at the diff. I know exactly what to do now. Thanks for sharing this!
Hey Sheerwood, enjoy watching your diagnostic videos here in Australia, very interesting info.
Just a little tip I learnt many years ago on installing oil seals with a rubber coating on the outside.
I always lubricate the outside of the seal prior to installing, this prevents the rubber from picking up on the metal bore of the housing as it goes in.
Even notice many service manuals also say to do this, found it makes installation a breeze. Has worked for me over many years of machine maintenance.
Once the seal is in place the rubber squeezes out the oil to form a tight seal to the housing.
Wishing you all happy new year,
Cheers
I like to Dremel with a wire wire wheel to remove rust and clean up the hole if needed. A few rubs on the ID of the hole and edge with fine sand paper help to clean the rusty edge . I would also warm the casing to get the seal to slip in easier, I use silicone to lube the OD of the seal and help seal it in.
Thank you for this video. First off, I'd like to say that it's always a pleasure watching real old-fashioned mechanics actually diagnose a problem themselves rather than rely on a computer to tell them what to do! Also, I bought a brand new 2022 Taco (TRD Off Road) with the "factory" TRD 2-inch lift (installed at the dealer). I had this humming noise the day I drove it home from the shop. Had it in and out of the dealer for probably 6 months with them working directly with the Toyota engineers to try to figure out what was causing this. After replacing the front differential TWICE, I still have that rhythmic humming. I got so tired of taking it into the shop, that I decided to just live with it. Now I can take this video to the service manager and show him what this problem is so they can finally fix it! Thank you, guys.
Yep I did this bearing swap years ago with no issues to date on my 2008 Tacoma. The issue becomes more notable when you put a lift on your vehicle and the East Coast Gear Supply Bushing is the go-to fix for that. The bearing swap and replacement is pretty simple, just stuff a blue shop towel behind there and be sure to remove it once the bushing is installed. (At least that's how I did it.) 👍
I have a 21 Tacoma I bought new. Had this vibration at 50 mph with zero load on the motor since new. Carried it to the dealer and told the service manager exactly how to drive the truck to feel the vibration. I knew there answer to it would be “they all do this” or “we couldn’t get it to go it”. #2 was the winner. I looked at the service ticket and none of what I told the service manager was written on it. Dealers……a license to steal.
I haven't come up on that vibration problem on any of the Toyota tacomas that I have worked on with four-wheel drive yet! This is like this talk text message that haven't come across a problem like this yet is gold!
I take that back I probably did come across the Toyota Tacoma four-wheel drive that had a vibration but probably thought it was an axel
I believe East Coast Gear Supply makes that kit! Those guys are awesome. I sent them by Toyota rear diff that I blew up and they replaced the gears and bearings for under a grand with a 5 year warranty!! Because I sent them my diff instead of buying a complete one off the shelf the turn around was like a week and a half with shipping! Can’t say enough about them! Everyone else wanted double. Same gear brand etc. If ya ever need differentials check em out! Super nice fold as well! Cheers
Tack weld a stiff wire on the inside plate. There is room for it to stick out toward you and not interfere with the rest of the tool and process!
Mike
Awesome... my 4runner will need this some day. I'm almost certain of it. Great to see a better filmed vid with some good explanations. Great stuff guys ! and happy New Year too. Keep up the great work.
"it's not going in like in the video". That is what all of us fixing our cars in our garage say.
The most true thing I’ve ever heard
We’ve all been there 😂
I wouldn’t have suspected the bearing to have been the issue as there was no noticeable wear. Good solution & great video. 👍
Great job. Love your vids. You and Eric O really do a nice job showing and sharing
You guys are real pro, enjoying watch the video verymuch.Thankyou!
I had the same issue with my 3rd gen 4Runner. Needle bearings were shot, and this bushing from ECGS totally fixed it
I'm from the UK, and I enjoy watching your videos
I'm going to do that exact repair/upgrade on my 2016 4Runner, eventually. 87k Miles so far and no problems. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the detailed video/audio. Watch and do goes a long way in training. Great diagnosis and fix.
Incredible work done
Nice repair guys, the tool to remove and install was very nice.😊
You guys are great! Honest, scrupulous, caring.
Yes I am from South Africa and I learned a lot from you and pass your videos on to five other mechanic's
Trick I learned at a car manufacturer.
If you have a harmonic check to see which “order” it is.
IE twice crank speed, 3x, 1/2..
Then go to the components that rotate at those speeds.
Right. And when you have a beating noise, it means you have two frequencies that are almost identical. Examples are a tread pattern that repeats fours times around a tire beating against a 4.10 axle with driveshaft unbalance. Or an alternator running at 3x crank rpm beating against a 6 cylinder firing order.
What a great idea for the parts manufacturer to include specialized removal/install items.
Good job guys as always and very educationa. I love the videos as I am also a garage owner here in scotland and have lernd a good few tips from you guys. Keep up the good work .
Gentalmen great find. I wrote into before, I am a retired truck mechanic but can't help myself from staying up on tools and problem fixes.
If you don't mind, can you give me the info on the vibration sensor and software that I can look up and research. That a really cool device.
Second question, I take it you read something about this issue? Maybe in a OEM TSB or maybe trade journal?
Great find guys. Damn I wish they had some of those really neat tools when I was still working.
Great channel guys, you guys make me proud there are still technicians that really care and want to do quality work.
Thank you
John
Those vibration sensors are so cool
My 2016 is doing this now at 300k kilometers. Now I know why so thanks for that!
East Coast Gear is where I bought the bushing and bearing puller. It cost me something like $65 a few years ago. It took me about 2 hrs to do the repair at home.
You guys are the best! Yours is my go to channel on how to do things right without all the shortcuts and halfway attitudes. Love the honesty, knowledge and get it done right attitude. Your employees should be pinching themselves that they are under your wing learning the best habits and skills . Happy New Year!
We appreciate you, and Happy New Year!
have felt this in my 2017 Tundra since i drove it off the lot. mechanic couldn’t figure it out. hopefully this will fix it. thanks so much!
Mine does it at 25 /30ish mph . I can fix this . Thanks for a great video . Stay blessed .
That is awesome they included the appropriate tools to complete the repair.
F the haters. We like your videos MSH. Happy New Year.
We do this repair at our shop it is a great fix so glad ECGS came out with the parts we have not seen any failures after the repair.
I like it when a job goes right!!! Great job guys!!
Had this too with a small lift. ECGS bushing totally fixed it and wasn’t too painful to install at home 👍🏼
Very interested in your use of scopes. I was weary at first, mostly because I don't understand them, but after watching your other videos, and now this one I am onboard...!
Love ur delivery.. think ur great 😊😊😊
This is a great video! I really enjoyed it. You treat your techs great, like the important people they are! I don't know if I could have a doggy at work though. I would spent all my time giving it ear rubs and butt scratches.
Sticking the bushing in Dry Ice while you were removing the other items out would work also. Done that plenty of times with bushings and a heat gun on the housing. Not on trucks, aircraft, but same concept. It’s all the same.
The new studio bay looks great!
That was a nice piece of work, good job!
I did this repair almost 200k miles ago on my 2010 and can confirm: Zero issues since the bushing was installed. The CV shaft had to be replaced because it was chewed to bits.
New to tacomas but my 15 has a vibration right around 40 mph. I thought it may be the tires since they were worn pretty good. After new tires it’s still there. I’m going to check this out to see if it’s the same issue I’m having.
Love the channel!
Didnt know Cobra Kai Terry Silver was an auto technician now…. Seriously though, I really enjoy the channel and professional way the vehicles are meticulously diagnosed
Great diagnostic 💪🏽
As soon as you said "whooom, whooom, whooom" I knew it was a needle bearing. Had that with my 4Runner. Thought it was my tires til my techs put it on the lift and found the play in the CV axle.
Looks like a good fix, I’ll keep this in mind. Thanks! It’s hind sight now and it looked like it went in pretty easy, but putting the bushing in the freezer for a while would probably have made it even easier. 👍👍🇺🇸
Amazing diagnostics
I am not a mechanic but I changed out the bushing on my son’s 2018 forerunner and it worked great they have a kit that they sold with all the tools to remove the existing and install the new solve the vibration problem thanks for the video
Just installed the ECGS bushing in my 2015 4Runner the other week. I was getting a lot of play with the CV axle.
At least they acknowledged the problems. And designed a revision kit . That's awesome you found the noise!
The kit is aftermarket I believe.
Happy New Year to you and your family. Looking forward to another year of great lessons and case studies!
Very informative Mr. Thank you
A lot of the problems I've seen on these is induced by larger tires and lift kits. Everyone likes to lift their daily drivers, but it can and often does have consequences. Even the larger tires many go to causes the transmission to not use high gear and the differential gearing needs to be changed to stop the lugging.
Of course besides normal wear and tear.
Nice work.
A Known problem with Tacomas and 4Runners. Upon installing larger tires or a lift kit, many people will install a differential drop kit to keep the geometry consistent to stock.
Good find on that vibration issue. I was wondering if that was a Toyota OEM TSB fix kit or an aftermarket kit from some other company?
I normally freeze all bushings and bearing before pressing them in. Seened easy on this one, but freezing forr several hours or overnight can be helpful.
What about residual moisture when you do that?
@@Notfiveo0 You have a shop towel don't you.The amount of moisture would only be a few drops and that's not hurting anything.
@ When cold metal meets warm metal it pulls moisture from the air. After you install the sleeve it’s not likely you could get a shop towel into those tight tolerances and dry it off.
@@Notfiveo0you can wipe off any ice crystals before installing it. Any other moisture is minimal condensation, which occurs normally during use of the vehicle. The gear oil is engineered to deal with condensation, and it will evaporate later when getting up to temperature.
God bless you on doing white epoxy floor. We just did ours in April as demanded by our senior guy….. my lord it looks terrible although could be because we don’t have a floor cleaning machine.
I am not a fan of needle bearings. Bushings are the way to go.
Good job guys!
Nice work and nifty kit you found there!
Heads up. If you do this job yourself, I think the ECGS bushing does have an inside / outside edge specified. Also, a little RTV silicone on the outside of the new seal is a good idea. I didn’t use RTV and got a leak a few hundred miles later. I tore it all apart again, added a tiny amount of RTV, and it has been good since.
PS - The vibration on my 2020 4Runner at 65mph improved. Probably 80% better.
Had a 2024 Camry need a front wheel bearing replaced. Took it off the car and had some coworkers spin it by hand. They looked at each other and then at me because there was no play. Put it back on the car, put a pry bar up to it and you could hear a rasping noise coming from the bearing. At 40-50mph you’d hear the same noise you were talking about in this video
My 1 year old Prius also had bearing failure.
2024? Why wouldn't you take it to the dealer for repair?
@@dontrend5956I do believe….. he might work at the dealership as a tech, unless I’m reading it wrong
I knew that was going to be the problem at the start. I had the same problem on my Tundra.
Needle bearing in the diff. Happened to my old 07 Tacoma I used to have. Started noticing it around 100k miles. I actually never fixed it. It never got any worse. Traded the truck in for a Tundra when it had 127k miles.
What a great video and fix for the Toyota's. If I ever come across this I will know what the issue is and how to fix it. Terrific!
Both of our 2022 4Runners have this issue. They replaced my differential under warranty and it didn’t fix it obviously. Now I have a steering wheel shake they can’t figure out and gave up on. My hum gets worse in winter. Thanks Toyota…
Did this exact same mod about six years ago. The ECGS bushing is the fix for this!
Hell ya. My 2005 has been doing that and the mechanic didn’t know why,said it could be many things,time for a new mechanic.
Anyway thanks now I can fix it
Good video thank you for the honest work
Performed the same repair on my 2008 4WD Sequoia
This is needed for all Tacomas, 4Runners, FJ Cruisers & Tundra’s that gets a lift. We replace once they decide to do a lift. The best way to do this repair is shove rages inside. Super easy repair.
i suspected the tires by the way, I had huming noise but was around 60 Miles on 17 rav4 turned out to be the tires the whole time.
thanks for the video
I've done quite a few of these over the last 9 years or so. It is a common problem with these trucks, especially if they have a lift in them. My personal truck which sees woods abuse, was on 35s for the last 6 years and now is on 37s hasn't had a problem since I did the ECGS bushing 85k miles ago. I personally hang the caliper, take out the tie rod end, and remove the 2 19mm bolts that connect the spindle and lower ball joint so I can swing the spindle out the way to have more room to work. I normally take a smaller plastic bag and stuff it into the differential beyond the needle bearing and leave it until after installing the bushing. My removal tool, like the one in your vid, needs some persuasion to go all the way in behind the needle bearing, which sometimes causes to back shoulder of the bearing to break off, hence using the plastic bag to block the hole. ECGS used to just send out the smallest diameter adapter and the handle piece from a harbor freight race and seal driver set as the install tool for the bushing itself. Almost looks like the seal install tool you got is the biggest one in the kit. www.harborfreight.com/bearing-race-and-seal-driver-set-10-piece-63261.html
I tried to do this swap but the bushing would not go in. The bushing really seems to big to hammer in. Its crazy that East Coast Gear Supply makes the tolerance so tight after all the needle bearing went in with out any trouble at all. Do you have any tips on how to make the bushing go in? I heard you can freeze it , I am skeptical that would make much difference. Now I am stuck with a damaged bushing. The good thing is the bearing went back in without any problem and is working good. I found my 4Runners issue was bad SPC UCR bushings. I would love to hear your opinion on how to get this thing installed since you have done quite a few already. Thanks
@@iQuantium Yes , normally the first thing I do is put the bushing in the freezer. Thermal expansion and contraction happen at a lot faster of a rate than most might think. Is it possible they sent you a bushing that had a mushroomed end? I have yet to have one not go in, but some definitely go in a lot easier than others. You also really need to make sure the bushing is straight and square to the hole since it is a press fit. If you use the driver kit I linked above, the smallest adapter fits for the bushing, then I use a mini sledge sideways to start. You can be less accurate with your hits while focusing on getting the bushing to start to go in properly.
Remember to buy that man a magnet.
This is the same problem the old S10 and gmc Jimmy’s had but it would get worse while at constant speed and hitting a slight bump.
I’ve done many of them and they always came in after another shop unloaded the parts cannon on them
Thanks for doing this video. Will help in the future. I hope!
I check this bearing every time I’m under the front end of my 09. I can’t believe how much play is there was even at 30K and at 176K it’s not that different. But I have stock wheels. There’s a ball bearing on the other (long) side of the dif seems like a bad decision by Toyota to go cheap on this side. Great video, gives me confidence I can do this if and when the time comes.
Good job 👍🏼 !
Tink sighting at 16:15 ! 😀 🐶
Another way to tell the bearing is bad is that the axle shaft that goes into that bearing has excessive play. Also get the puller and installer . That will save you time and money as I originally did not and had to chisel and grind the old bearing out. And tried to use a socket to install the new one and damaged it.
Sometimes keeping things standard an[d not modifying is the best stance
I have replaced three of those. The first one came with the special removal tool. Then after that. I just got the bushing and new seal. Cured them all! I put a plastic bag stuffed in so the tool wouldn't fall out. Pure genius to make such a simple tool that works that easily! One of the Tacomas was mine that I did. Could have taken to dealer under warranty, but I preferred to do it myself. As I had it lifted, and didn't want to deal with them trying to say that's what caused it. When they know it's a problem.
Did I see part of the rubber peal up at the 11 o'clock and 3 o'clock position when you installed it?
Fantastic video. Thank you guys.
I’m having this issue with my 4Runner. The same issues your describing, coasting 40MPH and the vibration with that sound. Have a 2023 4Runner that’s stock everything. I bring it in the dealership & of course they can’t “replicate” it after driving 2 miles he says.
I did this same project to my 2000 4Runner.
Common issue with the 2005 and up, we have 2001 Tacoma never given us a problem 240k now, not sure they make a bushing kit for 1997-2004 front differentials think the front differentials are different than the 2005 and up, I did replace the passenger side differential seal as it was leaking, had some vibration issues with ours, I ended up replaced the rack & pinon bushings and that seams to have calmed the front end down quit a bit, rack bushings make the truck feel new again. Like your shop, anyone that uses Wix filters I can see in the background knows what they are doing..... Just looked up the bushing and they in fact make a kit for the 7.5" front differentials for earlier Tacoma T100 and 4Runners, seams like it's problem with lifted trucks more so on ones that have more than 2.5" lifts, apparently the CV joint can put extra strain on that needle bearing if you don't use a differential drop kit to keep CV axle length more shallow. They also use a needle bearing on the passenger side of the differential, but believe the difference in out put on that aside of the differential makes loading more resistant do to physical design make load carrying stronger, I dont recall if there is a specific left or right with front CV's but I believe the drivers side is shorter than the passenger side which would make the drivers side more prone to loading characteristics due shorter shaft length ...
i have a 2020 tundra at the shop right now with the exact same issue. waiting on a complete differential (under warranty still)
great fix guys!
I live in the twin cities area of Minnesota and there's no road in the area where I could even test this. All the roads are subjected to frost heaving having bumps every 50-ft or so.
If you lift your truck like I did you need to correct the geometry back to stock on the cv-axles and rear panhard bar on these Toyotas .. mine is lifted 5 inches on 35 inch Mickey Thompson tires runs like new with 300k miles .. I got a front differential drop kit from toytec to make the axles straight in the front and a eimkeith panhard bar correction for the rear ..
From what I could see, I believe that the handle for the bushing driver screws off so it can be screwed onto the seal driver.
I would have wire-brushed the loose rust and dirt off the outer surface of the opening to prevent grit from falling into the opening while banging the bearing and seal in...
'Cleanliness' is a huge part of proper maintenance...
Ahh yes the ol needle bearing. Clamshell bushing is the only way. EAST COAST GEAR SUPPLY for those you wanting to get one
After lifting my 05 with ome coils I had this but knew about it from the Tacoma forums. ECGS for the win.