This went off the deep end so fast I got whiplash. The second Tyler opened his mouth I knew this was going to be just like the flat earthers. This man casually disregarded the entirety of the historical academic community because they aren’t his people.
28:57 Mattis, you're amazing, but I think maybe it's time you give Thornbury a mute switch for your mic or you add a time out option you hit yourself to cool off. You like to feed the trolls. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
My ears are bleeding from this. I really appreciate what you guys do and enjoy your videos and the work you do. Dont let grifters lime this bring you down to his level. Side note the amount of respect i gained for Thornbury for stepping in, not just as a cohost but as a friend in this video, was immense. The quiet little "Stop." He gives Aiden speaks volumes to his character.
Jesus, what an absolute child. Whatever shadow of a point this guy could have had is immediately lost by all the aimless yelling. We are definitely not witnessing the next Hbomberguy.
Malding (verb) -- a combination of the words “mad” and “balding"; refers to a person who gets extremely heated and irritated about something to the point where they could metaphorically lose their hair/pull out their hair/go bald. citation: wikiHow, Janice Tieperman. “Malding: Internet Slang Meaning, Usage & Origins.” wikiHow, February 14, 2024)
as a man in my 30's...... Tyler's an embarrassment even knowing what that word is. He's the worst kind of human who thinks because he has a Bachelors degree he's an academic. His life is trying to get famous with a "gotcha."
Said it before and I’ll say it again, you can’t argue with liars or idiots. This guy knew he’d get a reaction and was clearly there for that reason only , clout chasing for his own content. He’s so great I can’t find this guys live stream ,anywhere....
In my native language we have something we call hersketeknikk. Kinda dirty ways to dominant others/ debates .Talking over the other, belittling and laughing at the opponent's arguments.....
Like even if lore lodge 100% plagiarized something, which i don't believe, this guy did the absolute worst job displaying that. All i could gather is that it was in the summary.
I bet this guy is gonna keep doing videos like this because that’s the only way he’ll be relevant by doing petty drama with other TH-camrs I’ve seen a lot of people do this and you may get a lot of views in the beginning but they all end the same way what a sad life
When you have no argument and just want drama you don’t watch even a 1/3 of the video your criticizing, you constantly interrupt, throw insults like a child, you won’t let anyone talk, and just don’t understand fundamental reality💀
Giga ego showing "did i win" bro if you're going to challenge someone over plagiarism conduct yourself like an adult. Disregarding someone else off rip from 10 minutes of footage makes you look like a joke. Virtue signaling does not make you a single ounce more correct than the party you attempt to accuse, leave religion out of any type of arguement that does not relate to the topic whatsoever.
Okay so here are my issues with this guy. 1.) Chicago Style is a VALID and ESTABLISHED writing style. 2.) he keeps taking whatever you say out of context (ex; when you mention 17 bucks, he takes it as you are rich which you say you’re not) 3.) he won’t stop yelling and his yelling made me want to leave the video for actual trauma reasons but I stayed so Aidan might get something out of my viewership, and also to prove a point. 4.) the guy’s incessant mentioning of verses from the Bible is very outlandish and has nothing to do with the conversation. 5.) his laughing makes him look and sound delusional and narcissistic. 6.) him not finishing the video because of some small plagiarism critique (that CLEARLY wasn’t true) just goes to show he thinks he is always right and will never hear anyone’s story. 7.) lastly, his switch between watching the video for 10 minutes, 11 minutes, and 15 minutes was annoying. It’s like he can’t keep his story straight which makes me think he didn’t even watch any of it. Anyway. I wanted to say my piece. I’m sorry for what he was doing and I really hope it won’t ruin your week. I’ll keep watching your videos because I trust the content. Thank you for all the work you do because I really appreciate learning about things I’ve never heard before.
Wow Mattis... I give you credit for trying to have a conversation with this douchecanoe Methinks Tyler just wanted to make this political. I'm probably not someone who would agree about everything political with you, at all, but I respect your work and attention to detail And the Killdozer vid really changed my entire perspective about that incident Keep up the good work my man
Me too... And I'm definitely not claiming this asshole, hell, I never even heard of Tyler before This is why I freaking ignore politics now, douchebags like Tyler
I remember when Aidan argued with woody on PKA. When you're right about something and someone is being a c word it's an easy way to let someone get to you. "He's on sabbatical right now so I wouldn't" bro I love you, but that sounded so bad. I would just hang up on this asshole and disregard his existence
this might come as a shock to tyler but does he realize he can read things about the killdozer and come to his own conclusions or does he even know what it means to research things and think for yourself???? instead of accusing someone of plagarism how about GO LOOK THE INFORMATION UP for himself
Ooof. I couldn’t watch the whole thing because the secondhand embarrassment from that guy’s behavior was crippling. People who act like that during debates might actually be the most annoying people alive 😬 At this point y’all coulda plagiarized the entire video and I’d still side with you over him just because of his behavior 😭😭
I don't think this guy understands the difference between an academic paper and a youtube video. You guys do more research and acknowledge your sources more than 99% of videos on youtube.
He's a total strawman. Had he continued to conduct himself by way of his intro I may have peeped his channel. But he became so unhinged I'm going to avoid this guy like the plague.
Yo... wtf. What happened? Who is that guy? Lol. What's wrong with this guy? Seriously, I would've thought this was an out of season gag or something. I almost can't believe this. Bruh
Isn't the way to get someone to admit they were wrong is by "buttering them up" and not promptly jumping in their face and accusing the other person? I guess its not how it goes anymore. Edit: I wasn't saying you guys were wrong, I'm just saying that it was a yelling match from the start and there wasn't any build up.
“It’s becoming increasingly clear that you didn’t research anything.” “It’s becoming clear that I did!!!” Says the guy who admitted to only watching the first 11 minutes of a 77 minute documentary lol
No idea what he's on about TLL cited the articles / material throughout. It's a historical piece, for a historical youtube channel. Not a news channel or a news article restating other work or copying word for word. Seems like Tyler made a simple category error and got upset, which is fine, but it doesn't help that he is so god damn insufferable in this video
Btw the guy they debated here is a weirdo who has to contextualize everything in left wing politics and is a complete clout goblin. Also this guy will try to troll and harass you now, he will probably have his discord jannies harass every thing you post
Bud, you’ve got absolutely no idea how law enforcement or criminal investigations work. Have you received a phone call from an international detective agency telling you they were impressed with you work? No? Then shut the fuck up, because I have.
@@theaidanmattis one detective giveing you an ata boy is not the same as years of training. I never said you wouldn't make a good detective if you went through the training. I said you currently don't have the training required to be a good detective right now in my opinion
@@theaidanmattis you don't know that. You have no idea what degrees I may hold or what people I may talk to. For all you know my brother could be an FBI investigator or my parents could be judges.
Man, I am gonna be really disappointed when Lore Lodge gets sued and taken down for copyright. Whether or not this Tyler guy is right, his accusations are gonna stick. Shame, I liked you guys. Just goes to show, that Chicago we historians learned in college was absolutely useless.
@@theaidanmattisAiden, the content form doesn’t matter. You have to cite your sources or you are STEALING. You graduated college, your professor would be ashamed.
@@giannireece9595buddy, no one is gonna want to listen to the points you make if you keep making them in the most insufferable way possible. If they really did plagiarism here, discuss it with them maturely and come with solid points, a full understanding of the material they produced, and a willingness to actually engage. Very few personality types actually irritate me, but people who talk down and be nasty to others who are making an effort to meaningfully engage with them definitely makes the list. Your attitude invalidates your points by making your character out to be one impossible to align with. Please rethink this approach.
Yeah. Totally got wrecked by the guy screaming "YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR RESEARCH! YOU DIDN'T DO THE WORK!" yet didn't even watch the video he's criticizing. RIGHT.
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I love the irony of a guy who didn’t watch most of the very video he’s debating uttering the phrase “You don’t know how to do research.”
This went off the deep end so fast I got whiplash. The second Tyler opened his mouth I knew this was going to be just like the flat earthers. This man casually disregarded the entirety of the historical academic community because they aren’t his people.
This is Tyler. Tyler is a tool. Don't be like Tyler.
28:57 Mattis, you're amazing, but I think maybe it's time you give Thornbury a mute switch for your mic or you add a time out option you hit yourself to cool off.
You like to feed the trolls.
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
My ears are bleeding from this. I really appreciate what you guys do and enjoy your videos and the work you do. Dont let grifters lime this bring you down to his level. Side note the amount of respect i gained for Thornbury for stepping in, not just as a cohost but as a friend in this video, was immense. The quiet little "Stop." He gives Aiden speaks volumes to his character.
that guy was so annoying. he doesn’t seem interested in having a civil conversation, but he sure loves the sound of his own voice.
Jesus, what an absolute child. Whatever shadow of a point this guy could have had is immediately lost by all the aimless yelling. We are definitely not witnessing the next Hbomberguy.
Malding (verb) -- a combination of the words “mad” and “balding"; refers to a person who gets extremely heated and irritated about something to the point where they could metaphorically lose their hair/pull out their hair/go bald.
citation: wikiHow, Janice Tieperman. “Malding: Internet Slang Meaning, Usage & Origins.” wikiHow, February 14, 2024)
as a man in my 30's...... Tyler's an embarrassment even knowing what that word is. He's the worst kind of human who thinks because he has a Bachelors degree he's an academic. His life is trying to get famous with a "gotcha."
Said it before and I’ll say it again, you can’t argue with liars or idiots. This guy knew he’d get a reaction and was clearly there for that reason only , clout chasing for his own content. He’s so great I can’t find this guys live stream ,anywhere....
“You sound like David Koresh” JESUS CHRIST that was hysterical
I scream-laughed. I haven't done that since high school.
@@CleoHarperReturns oh my god I loved it when Aidan said that. I DIED DEAD
I don’t know who Tyler is, but this was extremely embarrassing for him 💀
YellingGuy's constant insecure laughing is so cringe
In my native language we have something we call hersketeknikk. Kinda dirty ways to dominant others/ debates .Talking over the other, belittling and laughing at the opponent's arguments.....
Like even if lore lodge 100% plagiarized something, which i don't believe, this guy did the absolute worst job displaying that. All i could gather is that it was in the summary.
absolute worst is apparently still good enough to make a sources section appear in the killdozer vid description lmao
This guy reminds me of the flat earthers with how he talks over others
I bet this guy is gonna keep doing videos like this because that’s the only way he’ll be relevant by doing petty drama with other TH-camrs I’ve seen a lot of people do this and you may get a lot of views in the beginning but they all end the same way what a sad life
So this Tyler guy....I hope you made his career, because I'm pretty sure he's incapable of making one by himself. This guy is insufferable.
When you have no argument and just want drama you don’t watch even a 1/3 of the video your criticizing, you constantly interrupt, throw insults like a child, you won’t let anyone talk, and just don’t understand fundamental reality💀
Giga ego showing "did i win" bro if you're going to challenge someone over plagiarism conduct yourself like an adult. Disregarding someone else off rip from 10 minutes of footage makes you look like a joke. Virtue signaling does not make you a single ounce more correct than the party you attempt to accuse, leave religion out of any type of arguement that does not relate to the topic whatsoever.
SO agree
Okay so here are my issues with this guy.
1.) Chicago Style is a VALID and ESTABLISHED writing style.
2.) he keeps taking whatever you say out of context (ex; when you mention 17 bucks, he takes it as you are rich which you say you’re not)
3.) he won’t stop yelling and his yelling made me want to leave the video for actual trauma reasons but I stayed so Aidan might get something out of my viewership, and also to prove a point.
4.) the guy’s incessant mentioning of verses from the Bible is very outlandish and has nothing to do with the conversation.
5.) his laughing makes him look and sound delusional and narcissistic.
6.) him not finishing the video because of some small plagiarism critique (that CLEARLY wasn’t true) just goes to show he thinks he is always right and will never hear anyone’s story.
7.) lastly, his switch between watching the video for 10 minutes, 11 minutes, and 15 minutes was annoying. It’s like he can’t keep his story straight which makes me think he didn’t even watch any of it.
Anyway. I wanted to say my piece. I’m sorry for what he was doing and I really hope it won’t ruin your week. I’ll keep watching your videos because I trust the content. Thank you for all the work you do because I really appreciate learning about things I’ve never heard before.
"You paid me to be here"
,Aiden T gave him 5$ 😮. If he thinks that was payment for the debate he doesn't think much of himself😅
Lmao I can't even find his channel that's how no name he is.
I suspect that someone didn't take their meds
I suspect he took someone else's meds.
Wow Mattis... I give you credit for trying to have a conversation with this douchecanoe
Methinks Tyler just wanted to make this political.
I'm probably not someone who would agree about everything political with you, at all, but I respect your work and attention to detail
And the Killdozer vid really changed my entire perspective about that incident
Keep up the good work my man
This right here is what I was thinking. And I didn't just like it for your use of "douchecanoe." That is my new favorite word.
@@CleoHarperReturns lol... The canoe is when the bag just isn't big enough for the level of douchiness being shown
@@GeorgefromBrooklyn 😆🛶
For a journalist, he didn't do a lot of journalistic work to prepare for this stream....
I bet That's why he's has a podcast no one watches or has heard of.this dude Has the same energy as a cod lobby trash talker.
I was really ready to hear him out until 9:13 when he says "what is that and who cares that it exists"
Bro cant go one sentence without a f-bomb.
He just said he doesn't gives a shit then what is his problem? Then thinks he is going to look cool? What a weirdo
I am NOT a conservative. I am more like left-of-center. We do not claim this man.
Hey! Same here! 👍🏽
And no, we do not claim this sad clown
Me too... And I'm definitely not claiming this asshole, hell, I never even heard of Tyler before
This is why I freaking ignore politics now, douchebags like Tyler
Oh my gosh.... can't stand this my ears are bleeding. Can't stand the "uh uh uh I'm so smug he he he" attitude
I remember when Aidan argued with woody on PKA. When you're right about something and someone is being a c word it's an easy way to let someone get to you.
"He's on sabbatical right now so I wouldn't" bro I love you, but that sounded so bad. I would just hang up on this asshole and disregard his existence
this might come as a shock to tyler but does he realize he can read things about the killdozer and come to his own conclusions or does he even know what it means to research things and think for yourself???? instead of accusing someone of plagarism how about GO LOOK THE INFORMATION UP for himself
This guy went to school and doesn't understand what Chicago citations are?
Seems like a guy with "one year" as a youtuber trying for some airtime.
This guy is a giant clown Holy cow
This guy's channel will go nowhere.
Ooof. I couldn’t watch the whole thing because the secondhand embarrassment from that guy’s behavior was crippling. People who act like that during debates might actually be the most annoying people alive 😬
At this point y’all coulda plagiarized the entire video and I’d still side with you over him just because of his behavior 😭😭
truly a hard watch. Love the vids, keep fighting the good fight. (Sorry I couldn't be there for the live)
I don't think this guy understands the difference between an academic paper and a youtube video. You guys do more research and acknowledge your sources more than 99% of videos on youtube.
Tyler has never felt the touch of a woman
Unfortunately for his wife, he has.
@gensoustudio4703 only by his word that he is married but I don't believe him. Anyone with a mouth like that a true woman or man wouldn't touch him.😅
@@kathrinedressal he is a very weird guy for sure. But anyone can get a partner. Maybe his wife is low self esteem or bad as him. You never know.
This guy really thought he was smart enough to talk to you.😆
7 minutes into the VOD and all the swearing is making me doubtful of this guy already
This guy wants to be HBomberguy sooo bad
Jfc he really does sound exactly like the flat earthers
This guy is acting like anytime anyone says anything you have to cite a source
"You're going to have egg all over your smarmy little face."👀That's one of my all-time favorite adverbs.💪
This Tyler dude was truly insufferable holy geez
You should've asked him how he would feel if he didn't eat breakfast that morning.
This dude is tyler right? Is beyond childish feel sorry for his wife
She must have it rough in private, but now there's the added public humiliation.
Holy hell this guy is a nutcase
He's a total strawman. Had he continued to conduct himself by way of his intro I may have peeped his channel. But he became so unhinged I'm going to avoid this guy like the plague.
Yo... wtf. What happened? Who is that guy? Lol. What's wrong with this guy? Seriously, I would've thought this was an out of season gag or something. I almost can't believe this. Bruh
Isn't the way to get someone to admit they were wrong is by "buttering them up" and not promptly jumping in their face and accusing the other person? I guess its not how it goes anymore.
Edit: I wasn't saying you guys were wrong, I'm just saying that it was a yelling match from the start and there wasn't any build up.
I could tell during the intro this dude is angry
I haven’t even started but what in the hell is this lmao
“It’s becoming increasingly clear that you didn’t research anything.” “It’s becoming clear that I did!!!” Says the guy who admitted to only watching the first 11 minutes of a 77 minute documentary lol
No idea what he's on about
TLL cited the articles / material throughout.
It's a historical piece, for a historical youtube channel. Not a news channel or a news article restating other work or copying word for word.
Seems like Tyler made a simple category error and got upset, which is fine, but it doesn't help that he is so god damn insufferable in this video
Btw the guy they debated here is a weirdo who has to contextualize everything in left wing politics and is a complete clout goblin. Also this guy will try to troll and harass you now, he will probably have his discord jannies harass every thing you post
I'm left-of-center. We do not claim this idiot. He's one of those far people. Far on either side is not good.
Quick question! On a scale of one to potato how stupid is Tyler?
This is….confusing at best
That's because Tyler is clearly on meth.
Is this guy the professor of TH-cam? lol He thinks he has a show on CNN or is running a liberal arts college.
Let me guess, Tyler is Maga. When wrong he talks over people, and has nothing to back up his argumenta.
T dose not help the current state of journalist
"get over your ego" from the man who thinks he knows more than trained forensic teams
Bud, you’ve got absolutely no idea how law enforcement or criminal investigations work.
Have you received a phone call from an international detective agency telling you they were impressed with you work? No? Then shut the fuck up, because I have.
@@theaidanmattis one detective giveing you an ata boy is not the same as years of training. I never said you wouldn't make a good detective if you went through the training. I said you currently don't have the training required to be a good detective right now in my opinion
@@theaidanmattis you don't know that. You have no idea what degrees I may hold or what people I may talk to. For all you know my brother could be an FBI investigator or my parents could be judges.
@@em0rabbit798 they aren't.
@@theaidanmattis they are. Ok your turn try something with more nostalgia though like "I'm rubber your glue" the nuh uh is kinda boring.
Most likable leftist on the internet
bruh
Man, I am gonna be really disappointed when Lore Lodge gets sued and taken down for copyright. Whether or not this Tyler guy is right, his accusations are gonna stick. Shame, I liked you guys. Just goes to show, that Chicago we historians learned in college was absolutely useless.
Thanks for the laugh! 😂
I do think it’s really funny that he was arguing so hard on the plagiarism point only to be wrong entirely due to the fact that it’s a video.
@@theaidanmattisAiden, the content form doesn’t matter. You have to cite your sources or you are STEALING. You graduated college, your professor would be ashamed.
@@giannireece9595Tyler. What was that white substance under your left nostril?
@@giannireece9595buddy, no one is gonna want to listen to the points you make if you keep making them in the most insufferable way possible.
If they really did plagiarism here, discuss it with them maturely and come with solid points, a full understanding of the material they produced, and a willingness to actually engage. Very few personality types actually irritate me, but people who talk down and be nasty to others who are making an effort to meaningfully engage with them definitely makes the list. Your attitude invalidates your points by making your character out to be one impossible to align with. Please rethink this approach.
aidan got rekt
Jonge was zum fick, biste aweng deppert?
As you do when fleas jump on you.
Yeah. Totally got wrecked by the guy screaming "YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR RESEARCH! YOU DIDN'T DO THE WORK!" yet didn't even watch the video he's criticizing.
RIGHT.
And by the idiot who, as a journalist, doesn't realize there's different styles of citations that are widely accepted.
@@Hyst3ricalCha0s I mean Aiden literally just stole other people’s content