Beethoven Symphonies Ranked Part II: The Political

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  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Whichever symphony Beethoven composed, the boy can dance. What a genius!

  • @Tylervrooman
    @Tylervrooman ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The 2nd movement of the 9th is what made me want to be a composer. Then the 1st movement became my favorite movement of the 9th.

    • @crichardson1893
      @crichardson1893 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’d be lying if I said I was any different… 5 years of composition later, it remains my favorite movement of my enduring favorite symphony

    • @prototypeo1404
      @prototypeo1404 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For me it were the piano sonatas, especially the masterpieces No. 1, 8, 21, 23, 31, 32...
      Btw, shameless plug: might any of you fellas want to give my amateur nusic a listen?

    • @gayninja9996
      @gayninja9996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@prototypeo1404 If you're still up to it, I would love to!

  • @Keithustus
    @Keithustus ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Prince, what you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am of myself. There are and will be thousands of princes. There is only one Beethoven."

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was a record of an afternoon where the Empress and her ladies-in-waiting were strolling around Vienna, and encountered Beethoven, doubtless brooding over dark, dramatic musical themes, coming up the street toward her. He did not slacken his pace or alter his course, forcing Her Imperial Majesty to change course to avoid a collision. :D

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've come to the conclusion that my favorite Beethoven Symphony is the next one I will listen to.
    I listen to a different one as I take walks in a forest near my town.
    It's fitting that I listen to a deaf composer that loved nature in a forest of complete silence.
    There are no insects, no birds. Poisoned by industrial man.
    Beethoven was an angry man?
    If he came back today, he would tell us in his music.

    • @LuigiRBG
      @LuigiRBG ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I absolutely Agreed with you, I love walking with Beethoven just like we all should

    • @johkkarkalis8860
      @johkkarkalis8860 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An intelligent approach, Lawrence Taylor.
      Walking in the woods or in a metro park, listening to the 6th, is as close to Eden as one can get.
      As a naive kid I largely ignored the even numbered symphonies in favor of the odd numbered ones until I grew up.
      By the way, my favorite Mahler symphony is the one I happen to be listening to at the time .
      I find no fault in that logic.

  • @aarontaylor8574
    @aarontaylor8574 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No. 7 is also my favorite - the second movement is incredible! I read that it is the most performed Beethoven symphony in the world.

    • @countluke2334
      @countluke2334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which, if true, is really saying something. I love it, too, but I'd argue the 5th is more iconic and more well known. It's probably the one piece of classical music even people who don't know anything about it know. And perhaps that's even the reason others are performed more often - 5th is seens as "too common" or like the "pop song" among classical music.

  • @SillyWillyFan47
    @SillyWillyFan47 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Agreed. Those five symphonies. But the picture painting Burbling Brook Andante of No.6 is just sublime.

  • @katrinat.3032
    @katrinat.3032 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please give us more videos like this. Did you know Benjamin Franklin who helped write the declaration of independence (for USA). Benjamin Franklin traveled to France multiple times during and after the American Revolution and was instrumental in pushing the French Revolution forward. And really all during this time LV Beethoven was alive and creating his fantastic music!!

  • @Davy.de.la.chakra
    @Davy.de.la.chakra ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His 7th is a work of God, and I say that as an agnostic. I believe Beethoven wrote it under the influence of opium.
    The final movement of his 5th is a series of possible codas - you could end a symphony like this, or like this, or like this, ..., but here's how I'm going to end it! And he goes on to blow us away with 90 seconds of genius.

  • @GettingItDone
    @GettingItDone ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THIS is how all videos on classical music should be done. KUDOS!

  • @py8554
    @py8554 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very happy to see No.7 top the list. It is my most favourite symphony of Beethoven too.

    • @kavinravichandran649
      @kavinravichandran649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the one symphony where every movement by itself is a masterpiece on its own. However I would switch the 5th symphony with the Eroica in its place. The scherzo of the Eroica should be rated higher on the basis of the horn trio itself.

  • @GlaceonStudios
    @GlaceonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the implication that the 5th symphony is a sequel to the 3rd... and maybe the 7th a sequel to the 5th.
    I wonder if the 9th continues that theme?

  • @Tolstoy111
    @Tolstoy111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Eroica was not written with Napoleon in mind. He got the idea of calling it Bonaparte when it was close to finished. He wanted to use it as an entree in a move to France. Changed his mind after the Emperor thing.

  • @tobyhuang6318
    @tobyhuang6318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:40 is actually the reintroduction of the theme within the 4th movement not the link between 3rd and 4th.

  • @PristineCXV
    @PristineCXV ปีที่แล้ว +11

    my favorite symphony was actually ranked #1. I guess im objectively right 🤷

  • @LuigiRBG
    @LuigiRBG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this video amigo, i will keep listening to Beethoven forever

  • @stevenak115
    @stevenak115 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's people I've met in music servers that have thought Beethoven isn't good at symphony/orchestra composing and can't write melodies but to them I say his symphonies are among some of the best in the entire symphonic genre! It had to be hard to judge these in the end. And while I personally don't see the 7th as the best. We all have opinions and that's what keeps the music going.

    • @gayninja9996
      @gayninja9996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who are these people, and where are their ears?

    • @LudwolfBeethozart1485
      @LudwolfBeethozart1485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beethoven 's just too grandiose and avant-guarde for certain (a lot of) people. They are so shocked that they try to refuse that music like this was really composed, so they adopt a psychological mechanism of self-defense to legitimate their trauma of entering an unexplored dimension of sound that their mind is not capable to really grasp.

  • @Bwv1046
    @Bwv1046 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Eroica symphony is my very favorite music piece

  • @baileydicus7716
    @baileydicus7716 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool list! Fun fact: Beethoven 7 was the first symphony i ever played in! So fitting its no. 1 on here!

  • @countluke2334
    @countluke2334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always cry when listening to the 7th's 2nd movement.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get choked up at the transition to and the start of the 4th movement of the 5th symphony, because for the last few years it's sounded to me like a sound track for the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. I even based my Easter sermon last year around that musical picture. :)

  • @lolsup9817
    @lolsup9817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now Beethovens piano sonatas ranked!

  • @eduescas1444
    @eduescas1444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The ninth adagio is at leats a 9.5, this is why is top 4 despite being the best symphony of all time

  • @-DSet
    @-DSet ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please don't use the dancin baby again

  • @matthewwilson3305
    @matthewwilson3305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When asked why the 7th symphony was so much better received than the 8th, Beethoven replied, "because the 8th is better."

  • @charlesshephard2764
    @charlesshephard2764 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! So chuffed the 7th has now been _scientifically_ proven to be the best of Ludwig Van's symphonies. From now on, I can tell anyone who tells me, "Well, it's all rather subjective, you know" to "shut the front door."
    PS: Symphony 3's position is correct according to your scoring, but its on-screen total (average) is not. Should be 9.375, not 9.00.

  • @tmoh8830
    @tmoh8830 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the fun video and the knowledge.

  • @williamgowing2199
    @williamgowing2199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By averaging the movements surely the 5th and 3rd symphonies are equal 2nd as they have they should have the same average?

  • @SimonParker-hv6uu
    @SimonParker-hv6uu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very hard to rank them, but putting the 7th at the top is not unreasonable

  • @bruceweaver1518
    @bruceweaver1518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well your list is interesting, but I disagree with your numbering. Here is my list as to which is greatest #1) to the least greatest #10). I do not mean by this that the last ranked is the worst; far from it! All of the Nine Symphonies of Beethoven are the cornerstones of Symphonic music and ambiguous creativity in all of them. With that said, here is my list:
    1.) Symphony # 9. The Choral
    2.) Symphony # 6. The Pastoral
    3.) Symphony # 5
    4.) Symphony # 7
    5,) Symphony # 3. The Eroica
    6.) Egmont Overture (Substitute for Symphony #10)
    7.) Symphony # 2
    8.) Symphony # 8
    9..) Symphony # 4
    10.) Symphony # 1
    6.)

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still the most compelling inspiring music ever written to me.

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't really think 5th is political in any way. It's more like victories over personal barriers and adversities.

  • @countluke2334
    @countluke2334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odd numbered Beethoven Symphonies, but even numbered Star Trek films come first in rankings.

  • @DeflatingAtheism
    @DeflatingAtheism ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unpopular opinion: The introduction to the first movement of the 7th Symphony tests my patience in a way no other Beethoven does.

    • @kavinravichandran649
      @kavinravichandran649 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 7th symphony is my favorite Beethoven symphony and I have to agree with you, its those lengthy rising scales..

  • @mikepanick9362
    @mikepanick9362 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Second movement of the 9th. ⭐️💥🌟✨🔥⭐️

  • @djjoeykmusic
    @djjoeykmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video
    Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @martineyles
    @martineyles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm about to play the 3rd symphony with I think a 4th local amateur orchestra, making it easily the most popular piece among such groups.

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your fav 5 is my fav 5 as well.
    9, 5, 6, 3, 7

  • @NewsInAction
    @NewsInAction ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You get the feeling that Beethoven wouldn't like his works competing against one another in a ranking video, great video though.

  • @mrbucket1571
    @mrbucket1571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should rank mozarts operas that would be cool

    • @enjoyclassicalmusic6006
      @enjoyclassicalmusic6006  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good idea, but would require some work...check back in a few months...

    • @mrbucket1571
      @mrbucket1571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@enjoyclassicalmusic6006 awesome! Love the videos btw you’re quickly becoming my favourite one of my youtubers

  • @PattyDung
    @PattyDung ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% agree. #7 = #1 !

  • @JJJRRRJJJ
    @JJJRRRJJJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7 is actually one of my least favorite. Especially the finale. Not my favorite.

  • @DerpDerp3001
    @DerpDerp3001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rank Mozart’s symphonies next.

    • @PattyDung
      @PattyDung ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Top three: 39! 39! 39!

    • @enjoyclassicalmusic6006
      @enjoyclassicalmusic6006  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tempting, but will require some listening....so not next, but maybe in a few months

  • @py8554
    @py8554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every symphony in this video is odd numbered.

  • @davidwoods8181
    @davidwoods8181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree! Number 7 is so dann good

  • @roscodabosco81
    @roscodabosco81 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have "1798" in the video as you say "1789". 1798 was the Irish revolution of the United Irishmen. In fairness it was inspired by the French, but still less successful..... We do have tricolour I suppose. 🇮🇪