@@kevinforget549 bah. Let ammoseek be your friend. It'll help bring the costs down real quick. Not with powder right now, but for the rest of it for sure.
"I'm gonna take em and stick em in my toaster" oh so he means he has a special oven or something like tha- *proceeds to stick powdered bullets in a toaster oven* niiiiiceee
Reloading is kind of tricky, not everyone would agree. It is a “hobby that feeds a hobby that creates a hobby” and others don’t see that way... anyway, great info...
I agree. I started reloading .44 rem mag because I was in NO WAY going to pay a buck a round for pistol ammo. I don't cast lead because I got a 3 year old crumb cruncher and a 10 year old running around, and I keep old brass and dead primers the F away from the kids, but melting lead at home sounds a little poisonous
Some of you dont realize that hand loading ammo is therapeutic. I dont reload for the savings nearly as much as for the zen if you will. It's relaxing.
I couldn't possibly agree more. I began in my teens for the cost effectiveness. However, it didn't take very long for me to realize the stress reducing qualities in the repetitive motions. Moreover, I began to learn that I can receive far better ballistics after significant research.
Agreed. Many of my loads come out to the same price as factory ammo, but ALL of my rifles shoot 1 MOA or less (all of my bolt guns are 1/2 MOA or less) instead of averaging 2-3 MOA with factory garbage. And only half a dozen of my 32 rifles have nice aftermarket barrels.
lmao. imagine if a soldier on the battlefield shouted "im reloading!" and proceeded to get out of cover and scour the battlefield for empty brass casings and scrap lead, then he pulled out his tactical oven and smelted the lead, then proceeded to pull out his tactical reloading equipment and spent several hours refining his new rounds, then he slowly loaded his new bullets into all of his magazines while listening to audiobooks, thne when he was done he loaded the magazine and continued with the battle
For some reason, that made me laugh a lot harder than it should have. I can just visualize that--a firefight slowly grinding to a halt as soldiers on both sides start scouring the battlefield for scrap lead and brass casings, whilst giving each other dirty looks as they wait for their lead to melt. Perhaps that's how World War V will be fought, once we get past the sticks and stones used for WWIV.
@@Schwarzvogel1 Sorry to cut your water off, but back in the early frontier days often enough when a man goes hunting he would butcher once he's make a kill shot. Then look for the bullet there carcass , after finding it they save it for remelting once they had enough to melt. Of course were talk about the Black Powder days. But the same principals can be applied to some of toady's standards if'n you can handle cutting out a bullet from someone you've just took out because of the war from with in our own country. If not it is time to re- unite the country as a whole. May God Bless America, because if'n he don't all is DOOMED. And that includes you too.
I like to think the sides found peace threw trade negotiations from the "this bucket of 7.62 brass for your half bucket of 5.56 and a coffee can of lead"
This is absolutely incredible, huge respect to anyone who’s this self sufficient. I’m looking to get into hand loading my ammo but I def do not have time for all this
Thankfully, you can purchase premanufactured projectiles! I’m tempted to start putting together a casting set up though, because you can also get lead from tire shops in the form of tire weights. Tire shops have to pay to get rid of it, so you can often get it for free! You can also skip the powder coating if you use copper gas checks (I believe). Little bit of cost (3¢ a piece?), but saves a lot of time. And could possibly be cheaper than the powder coating equipment.
Batches, I do 1000 cases a day. Then you can reload 200 at a time. It only has to be trimmed the first time, swagging as well. Get a progressive press and 200 only takes an hour
People who think this is all to time consuming need to just buy ammo. All of the steps involved in this process is part of the fun of the hobby, yes it does take some time, but those of us who enjoy the entite process dont mind taking the time to custom build our ammo. Ots kinda like some people enjoy getting wet and taking the time to hand wash their car and other just drive through an automatic wash, either way is fine and its simply a preference between one or the other.
It makes me laugh when I see the comments about "wasting your time." I'd say you're doing a good job "investing" your time when you're able to save that much money.
Wondering why you are watching a reloading video if you don't find it to be a fascinating hobby? And if you do find it to be a fascinating hobby then I wonder if you feel that hobbies should be cost effective to be worthwhile? If you are doing something that is cost effective and worthwhile is that not considered just work that you happen to enjoy? And if you are doing work that you happen to enjoy is it not out of the question to do a hobby that you derive pleasure from but saves you money from the cost of another related hobby that is a dead bang loser as far as cost goes? This isn't necessarily pointed at you but just making a general statement that hobbies don't have to make financial sense to be enjoyed and frequently if not generally do not meet that criteria. Just sayin, No hate here. Do as you please. I like to reload and I spend a small fortune doing it. So what?
Wow this is crazy man , you’re a super inspirational person , to see you do this gives people the hope to go out and do it themselves, this is one of the most valuable learning experiences I’ve ever had on TH-cam without a doubt
Hey guys. I had to re-upload this video because When I was editing I forgot to include the step of resizing the powder coated bullets which is very important. Thanks for watching!
also think he could have earned what he saved by flipping burgers, but he prolly enjoy this and in the zombie apocalypse theese preppers hope is comming, the ammo store is most likely closed.
Don't be this guy, if you're going to melt down lead wear a good respirator, and when handling wear gloves. Lead poisoning is a slow killer it takes years, but doing stuff like this is super bad for you so use protection.
@@thedobc it's your health not mine, but I used to know a lot of good lead painters back in the day who never wore a respirator. Used to, being the keywords in that sentence.
@@thedobc Not really, glass blowers working with crystal glass can easily get lead poisoning by inhaling it. Glass is much hotter than what it takes to melt lead, though
Watch Tiborasaurus Rex and Gunblue490. Both have very good reloading videos for beginners. It doesn't seem that difficult after watching them. This guy is not a beginner, and it doesn't have to be this complex.
If you can can follow a recipe exactly then you can reload, sure there is a cost to entry into it. It allows me to hand tailor an ultra match load for my specific rifle/handgun, while saving me quite a bit of money depending on the caliber. I do not take it to this gentleman's degree in all fairness. Watching videos and listening to the pros and cons of reloaders about equipment can save you money in the beginning as well, good luck.
@@jhphoto100 yea since this video I have bought a press and some other tools deburring, scale. My setup is not the most efficient process but I enjoy it. It’s fun adjusting loads and seeing the difference in ballistics. And as of now I still have both eyes,both hands, my nose, and all 10 fingers.
most people are comparing this ammo to just walmart stuff but doing this lets him make ammo that shoots good in his guns and doesnt have to pay for match ammo if he matches it himself.
In case ya'll wanted to know, his HEBREW TATTOO reads "Yeshuah" (Jesus). Hebrew is read from right to left, so it reads here YSUA. That little apostrophe-looking letter at the beginning, is the "Y" sound is called a Yod in Hebrew. The second letter that looks like a "W" is actually an S sound. The third letter is a Vav, and makes an "O" sound (but can make other sounds as well). The final letter is the Ayin, which makes the "Ah" sound in this instance. Since Hebrew is an ancient language trying to make do in a modern world, the spelling and pronunciation can vary. Regardless, gotta give this guy credit for going to this extreme to make his own rounds!
Next I’m going to call my boss with my Lee 1 to 1 telephone and inform him I don’t have enough hours in the week to work there any longer. Really though, I enjoyed the video. Lots of knowledge you got man. Thumbs up.
its actually pretty common now. Even with guys who dont shoot a lot, i know guys who probably shoot less than a few hundred rounds per year that still handload
Impressive, I did basically the same thing with a few less steps (pistol) when I was shooting a lot in college. You should definitely treat yourself to a lee loadmaster progressive press (or any progressive press for that matter). Get a round per handle pull, vs one every 4-5 pulls. Keep up the good work!
What you do here is very nice. However on you cost analysis you are not counting your time and effort and according to this video it is a lot! On a per round basis I estimate you invest about 30-40 seconds (not counting sorting of brass)
This is more than a hobby at this point. It's a full time job...and the amount of equipment required to get to this point is pretty daunting. I doubt anyone who shoots less than 20,000 rounds a year would find this even remotely worthwhile.
I would surmise that the enjoyment of the time making the rounds is a hobby. The hobby pays for the time. One doesn't say he lost 20 bucks because they mowed their own lawn.
Absolutely awesome that you do all of this by yourself. Im sure this took quite a bit of time/research and trial and error to figure everything out. But in Germany we have a saying: "Selbst ist der Mann", which roughly translates to: Real men are self-reliant.
Love this vid man, probably one of my favorite on affordable reloading. The only thing I would recomend is wearing a propper mask when dealing with sifting for or smelting lead. You don’t want any more of that stuff in your blood then the absolute unavoidable...
I made that same point above. Compare the time spent reloading and the cost savings to available options making money. Measure where you're gaining value. For some, reloading. For others, buying. The one benefit though of reloading is dependency. You don't have to rely on stock. If shit hits the fan, you're set. Until there's a national ammo registry (I imagine i'll see that within my lifetime) I have zero need to reload.
Chad Emig ...part of the point is that if shf and in time of trouble you can't buy everything, so make or reuse as much as feasible...and certain things you can barter with or for...
Excellent Work, LOTS of work. Very good information, I appreciate all the information, I am slowing working my way to load .223/5.56 and .308, been loading .38/.357 and 9mm for years, just started to load 40S&W. This is really good information. Keep up the good work.
Nice video, but it useless in Russia. I can ovn any type of ammo, but rifle cartriges reloading forbidden in Russia. Ironically tulammo primers made in neighbour town.
@B S wow that realy sounds stupid. I mean, if you only can buy 50 rounds per year, why are you even allowed? This makes no sense. Make it legal or not, but something like this is just stupid
@B S Reading your comments from other parts of the world just makes me appreciate living in the USA even more! I don't know what you guys hear about living in the USA, but I can tell you it is awesome! I live in Texas and owning guns here is just normal. Just yesterday, my son and I spent the day shooting on our own gun range. What is life without freedom? If you love shooting and owning guns, move here as fast as you can! We will welcome you with open arms and share our guns and ammo too.
pure awesomeness. i too am in the same boat of high volume shooting vs stockpiling. i have my reloads down in the teens: $0.15-.20. love the sound effects! good stuff
It prevents leading in the barrel like Signal Jones said. It also acts as a lubricant. Old school lead loads needed a wax mix to put in lube grooved bullets for lubrication as it went down the barrel and to prevent gas cutting of the lead bullets. It allows you to run bullet projectiles at higher speeds and pressures approaching copper jacketed projectiles depending on the round.
Some people watch TV when the are bored. Other people engage in their hobbies when they are bored. Everybody has down time. It just depends on how you want to spend it.
luvdady If you have never cultivated a hobby I recommend you put that down on your "bucket list". It is one of the great enjoyments of life! It is EXTREMELY enjoyable to learn about something you know very little about through experiencing it directly. Then through proper cultivation of that ENJOYMENT you become GOOD at it. You then develop friendships through it with others of like mind set. It pays off in many ways for an enjoyable life. Having firearms is different from reloading firearms for target shooting and competition shooting. I hope that you change your outlook on life and learn to someday appreciate a man pouring his heart and time into his enjoyments rather than summarizing the time spent on an expense sheet as “hours you could have spent doing something else”.
To everyone saying this isn't worth the time and they would rather buy ammo, please send me your spent brass. I am glad that most do not think it's worth it more lead and brass for me and guys like me. Also everyone keeps saying $1000's in equipment, keep thinking that, as I said more lead and brass for me. But if you may be interested in reloading that press is around $120, dies $40, powder charge $38, lee pot $69, casting mold $40, scales $20, powder $20, primers $30, basically everything to load .223 for less than $400 total. Far from thousands.... I do a few things different though I do buy lead from the scrapyard a lot easier than sifting I am lazy there.
You are a patient man who enjoys what he does! You have a machine shop in your garage, cool beans. Great video, keep doing what you're doing big guy and thanks for sharing!!!!
I used to think reloading wasn't worth it but now that you have too do a background check to buy bullets in California every time, I think I'm going too start doing reloads.👍
RuggedSportsmen In July of 2019 you will have to do background checks to by ammo in California. Nice to know you know the laws in your state. You are a fucking idiot.
Only 1 min. into the first video of yours i've seen, and let me say, these are great! The sound effects when your picking up brass makes this cannel an Instasub
Skip Tindle yeah he recognizes that, he looks at it as a hobby, kind of like how I may look at baseball as a hobby. So it works well for him:) me myself, I would probably just collect the brass not the lead lol
Why does everyone keep talking about the cost of time? Do you keep track of how much money you could be making when you're doing whatever hobby you do?
Hey man, long time fan. I remember watching these videos years ago when you first released them. I’m not into reloading but there’s something so satisfying about these videos. I came back to watch them all again.
Awesome video. Love the process. Don't think I'll be able to get into this hobby as soon as I thought though. Everything from the equipment costs to the amount of space required to even store all that stuff seems crazy. Don't think the wife would be too thrilled about me turning the garage into a bullet factory lol
so all that time is ?? what days , weeks FREE really ..whats the cost of the gear , electric , powder coat , tumbler , trimmer, dies , swagger [ dillion is top $$ ] ..so 1000 primers are $ 30 = .03 cents powder per lb is $ 35 .. that's 280 rounds at 25 grains = .13 cents per round SO we are up to .16 cents per round .. should I go on ..
LOL! Please allow me to enlighten you. Fuel, powder coat, and case lube cost are minuscule per round but I'll do the math for you. I can produce about 300 pounds of lead alloy ingots from one propane bottle which cost me $15 to refill at walmart. 300 pounds of lead equals 38,181 fifty-five grain bullets which equals $.00039 per round in fuel cost. The powder coat cost $6 per pound at Harbor Freight. I have powder coated about 4000 bullets so far and have used maybe half of it. So that's conservatively about $.00075 per round. The case lube is made from 99% isopropyl alcohol and liquid lanolin which I bought on Amazon for $18. It will probably last me the rest of my life. I'm not sure how to calculate the per round cost of that and the electricity but I can assure you they are even cheaper. Next you mention the cost of the gear. I would refer you to this video I made on the subject. th-cam.com/video/SvEfWmHpQcE/w-d-xo.html Then you mentioned the value of my time. I don't watch TV. I reload and do other productive things for enjoyment. I would ask how much is your TV time worth? Less than my reloading time I'm guessing. Your prices on powder and primers are not my prices and your recipe is not my recipe. BTW, I'm funding my powder and primer cost the same way I funded my reloading equipment so actually I have ZERO out of pocket expense per round. Have a great day!
your reading to much into this , I reload also for the last 40 years ,rain days . winter stuck in house etc .. ya well worth it but at some point your time does come into play on cost, melting lead and skimming , digging lead out of berms , etc .. that must be accounted for and the cost of the start up press, gear , dies , melting pot .. that said how does the lead / hardened ? tin / wheel weights / ratio ..with the powder coat do at 3200 fps on the barrel [ leading ], and say 200 yards groups, ??
have you ever used gas checks to keep the barrel from leading at the fps . a 223 should run .. 55 gr around 3200 fps . or are you running slower .. I tried 303 Britt lead and when stepped up it broke apart above 1800fps
If you shoot enough this will pay for itself. It is also fun and a hobby. You don't do it in one day. You do a little at a time, in steps in batches. You can produce an amazing amount of ammo quickly. Cost of gear? Small, $500 to $1000. Now think about it. $0.40 a round verses $0,10. Shoot a 1000 rounds that is $300. Shoot that year after year... I reload 9mm but buy my bullets, copper plated... it cost me about $0.15 a round... or $7.50 per 50. The real secret is independence, a source of ammo. I have 1000's of bullets, primers and pounds of power... I have over 1000 rounds of 9 mm but 2000 in supplies. Is ammo gets scarce I can make it. I have lots of brass. If needed I could make bullets.
The only thing better then reloading your own bullets is doing it cheap. I am with you on this I haven’t bought ammo in years . Powder and primers is all free lead free brass and a little work makes me smile ..👍🦦
Chris Kristopherson For the grand majority of us, our time is worth nothing. If you are not actively doing something that brings you income, then your time isn't worth jack. This argument always makes me laugh. If he was doing this INSTEAD of working a job, then yes it costs him work time and therefore money. But since he is using his leisure time...well, you can make the connection
That is a bit short sighted. Do you understand opportunity costs? The amount of time this guy wastes far outweighs any monetary savings. This should be making you laugh! I can always make more money, I can not make more time. Everyone has just 24 hours a day, it seems you don't value yours much
Opportunity Cost is the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen. hmmm... So you tell me what this ammo is costing him!
It seems like it takes you several hours to make some rounds...if you value your time, and factor in the time invested, its definitely not .10 cents a round
Reloading Is a hobby for most so well I agree time is a consideration the benefits of reloading are more then just the cost. If you can reload while doing something else you enjoy like for me audiobooks or talking on the radio(ham) The net time is free. Reloading can also be therapeutic. My uncle has long since passed away but people still talk about his reloads. There is something to be said about self reliance and making something with you own hands. I know he enjoyed the process and took pride in the result.
That all depends. Lets say you can so something (like a hobby job) that pays $10 per hour. Using 40 cents per round for example, you could buy 100 rounds for 4 hours work. Can you collect the brass, dig the lead, melt the lead, make the bullets, coat the bullets, clean the cases, lube the cases, load the rounds, etc for 100 rounds in less than or equal to 4 hours? If not you'd be just as well off to work the hobby job and buy your ammo from a pure economic point of view.
DSCKy For the people that feel reloading is work and similar to a job, then reloading is not for you. Many reloaders like myself find it interesting, enjoyable, and relaxing to reload. You also learn a lot about ammunition, how it's made properly, how it functions, what to look out for with bad or defective ammo, etc... And probably the biggest benefit of reloading is you are able to make much higher quality rounds then your basic bulk ammo, so in your calculations, you should use the price of buying match grade ammo instead of bulk price ammo as your money factor.
I applaud your diligence to this. But..... The equipment, labor, etc makes this process more costly than simply buying the rounds. At least for most. There is no way a person could manufacturer rounds at the cost that ammo manufacturers do. Only by discounting labor, equipment, etc is this even remotely possible. Still, you deserve some huge props for all the work you do to enjoy your hobby.
abrahamhdz Not sure what you're talking about. If you want to mine lead, take apart batteries, smelt lead, etc please fell free to do so. But facts don't really care about your feelings. And neither does reality. Or maybe you're advocating going to the range & digging up lead. as well as the other dangerous stuff done in this vid. Oh well. Sadly there are few that have common sense or know how to use it if they had it.
It's not Americant he's not saying you can't do this he's merely pointing out the downside. Most shooters don't reload. Also most accidents that occur in shooting come from homemade rounds that are double charged or simply pushing ballistics. This guy is clearly doing an excellent job and if he's saving money then great for him. I personally wish I had the time to do this. I will reload hunting ammo but i can't sit their and do 250 rounds of .223 or 9mm
Zaes666 He is raining on the other guy's parade. He may be polite about it but that is still what he is doing. If you or he don't enjoy the hobby enough to do this then that is fine. Different strokes for different folks.
abrahamhdz I do reload... if you read my post I said I wish I had the time to reload more than just my hunting ammo and match ammo.I am too busy to reload my .223/9mm practice ammo. I spend that free time at the range practicing.
Well, if he made just over minimum wage and worked he would end up ahead just buying the rounds anyways. The only time its worth reloading for me is for my 6.5 creedmoor where the load is critical... loading some out of balance soft lead nonesnse with powder coat is such a terrible waste of time and resources. The rouds will either have to travel slow as dirt or be so deformed your might as well be shooting straight up in the air
bobwatters simple, i can reload cheaper then budget ammo but get a higher quality round. putting a price on time is irrelevant. how much money do you spend watching TV? Sleeping? None obviously so why would reloading be any different if you enjoy it?
Vernon Ziebell unless your reloading hand cast, harvested lead - or an extreme speciality round that's almost never commercially produced - I'd be more than surprised if you could possibly reload cheaper than budget ammo Assuming the extremely unlikely scenario you can reload for less than places purchasing bullets, primers, cases, and powder 70% under retail by the millions - making minimum wage and purchasing the rounds would put you ahead unless you had a seriously commercial grade reloading setup and tens or hundreds of thousands to invest to purchase at that economy of scale Don't be delusional. I'm a serious reloader, but not an idiot. The cost of reloads haven't been less than factory ammo for over a decade in most cases. I don't count money spent sleeping because I don't sleep when i could be at work. I do count reloading, brewing, etc because I do it when I could b working. Only an idiot or so,embody that enjoyed reloading for reloading (or didn't value their time at all) would say it's a smart choice or cheaper than buying
Let me address some of the comments about hidden cost. First, to address the cost of equipment I'll refer you to the video linked below. The cost per round for electricity, propane, and powder coat is minuscule. I don't know how to calculate it exactly but I'd estimate it's probably less than $.001 per round. I can calculate the cost of propane per round. It cost me $15 to fill my tank. With one tank I can produce 300 lbs. of lead ingots. 300 lbs. of lead equals 38,181 bullets at 55 gr. each. That's $.0004 per round in propane cost. A pound of powder coat cost $6. I've cast over 5000 bullets with it so far and I don't think I've even used half of it. I have no idea what the electricity cost to run my toaster, tumbler, and oven are. Even if you could convince me that my per round expense was $.01 more it would still be well worth it to me. As for the cost of my time. I'd say my time is worth about as much as the time others spend watching TV. I cut mine off. th-cam.com/video/SvEfWmHpQcE/w-d-xo.html
Anyone who says well doesn’t the equipment cost blah blah blah? Well it’s a one time cost it’s not like he has to buy new machines every time. It doesn’t pay for itself right always but with time it will. It’s also a hobby of his it’s something he enjoys doing so why not? He’s not saying everyone has to do this he’s only showing you how he does it and how much each round costs. It’s not for everyone like any hobby it’s gonna take some of your time.
what about time commitment? i mean, the skill is certainly useful but seems like it'd be WAY cheaper to just pick up an extra shift (depending on your hourly).
Reloading is a hobby in itself. You are spending quality me time doing something that you like to do. Of course if you hate reloading and love your work, then just buying the ammo would make sense.
xjyrki never said it wasn't a hobby. never said anything condescending. just asked a legitimate question. i'm sure it's a relaxing pass time, but that was not the video's thesis. you need not act like that.
"Hey, what are you cooking?"
"Bullets, honey, lots of them"
lots of them...2000 years to get a hundred rounds...
Suddenly 30¢ a round doesn't sound expensive...lol
20¢ if you buy Tula/Wolf.
Lol
@@Snadzies tulammo? It cost 7-8 rubbles ($0,1-0,11) in Russia
Nick Fotopoulos this guy takes reloading your own ammo to the extreme
Gary Winthorp I personally haven’t had any trouble feeding wolf through my bushmaster
watching in 2020 like: "ahhhh the good ol days".
in 2023 it looks like ancient history. primers alone cost close to 10 cents. powder even more.
@@kevinforget549 bah. Let ammoseek be your friend. It'll help bring the costs down real quick. Not with powder right now, but for the rest of it for sure.
"I'm gonna take em and stick em in my toaster"
oh so he means he has a special oven or something like tha-
*proceeds to stick powdered bullets in a toaster oven*
niiiiiceee
Buster Premium Productions he cookin up some hot Cheetos
I thought literally the exact same thing lol
Yeah me too.. thought process was the same exact way lol
Some very tasty Cheetos. *gulps sounds good*
Reloading is kind of tricky, not everyone would agree. It is a “hobby that feeds a hobby that creates a hobby” and others don’t see that way... anyway, great info...
MIKE MIKE a job could be a hobby if its fun to you honestly anything is better than just doing nothing
I agree. I started reloading .44 rem mag because I was in NO WAY going to pay a buck a round for pistol ammo. I don't cast lead because I got a 3 year old crumb cruncher and a 10 year old running around, and I keep old brass and dead primers the F away from the kids, but melting lead at home sounds a little poisonous
Had a hobby once. Then I got married. Now I have "love".
MIKE MIKE so true. I got into it cause I like tinkering and I like to save money. Lol joke was on me I just found more ways to spend my money. 🤪
What’s the third hobby? I got that reloading feeds shooting but what does that create?
Some of you dont realize that hand loading ammo is therapeutic. I dont reload for the savings nearly as much as for the zen if you will. It's relaxing.
Lies you do it for the accuracy gains lol
I couldn't possibly agree more. I began in my teens for the cost effectiveness. However, it didn't take very long for me to realize the stress reducing qualities in the repetitive motions. Moreover, I began to learn that I can receive far better ballistics after significant research.
I agree... It is really relaxing and the added bonus of increased accuracy is a plus!
Agreed. Many of my loads come out to the same price as factory ammo, but ALL of my rifles shoot 1 MOA or less (all of my bolt guns are 1/2 MOA or less) instead of averaging 2-3 MOA with factory garbage. And only half a dozen of my 32 rifles have nice aftermarket barrels.
Reading your comment was a blessing. Thank you
People are such gun snobs , I enjoy reloading and I liked your teaching us how your doing it . good job
Amen
If we ever get to the point were we are in a post apocalyptic society, this man is going to be rich lol
depends how much powder and primers he has saved up. If production of those cease to exist we will all be without ammo eventually.
Love the Mario effects when picking up brass haha
lmao. imagine if a soldier on the battlefield shouted "im reloading!" and proceeded to get out of cover and scour the battlefield for empty brass casings and scrap lead, then he pulled out his tactical oven and smelted the lead, then proceeded to pull out his tactical reloading equipment and spent several hours refining his new rounds, then he slowly loaded his new bullets into all of his magazines while listening to audiobooks, thne when he was done he loaded the magazine and continued with the battle
For some reason, that made me laugh a lot harder than it should have. I can just visualize that--a firefight slowly grinding to a halt as soldiers on both sides start scouring the battlefield for scrap lead and brass casings, whilst giving each other dirty looks as they wait for their lead to melt.
Perhaps that's how World War V will be fought, once we get past the sticks and stones used for WWIV.
@@Schwarzvogel1 Sorry to cut your water off, but back in the early frontier days often enough when a man goes hunting he would butcher once he's make a kill shot. Then look for the bullet there carcass , after finding it they save it for remelting once they had enough to melt. Of course were talk about the Black Powder days. But the same principals can be applied to some of toady's standards if'n you can handle cutting out a bullet from someone you've just took out because of the war from with in our own country. If not it is time to re- unite the country as a whole.
May God Bless America, because if'n he don't all is DOOMED. And that includes you too.
Chad Myron Gaines-Normington that's exactly what revolutionary and civil war soldiers did.
I like to think the sides found peace threw trade negotiations from the "this bucket of 7.62 brass for your half bucket of 5.56 and a coffee can of lead"
@@elvispresley2542 there weren't bullets in the civil war only muskets
All i saw was freedom being made. :D
s14duma thats a stupid statement...
Murica
Jolyn Nathan Your statement is a stupid statement for stating a statement to be a stupid statement
Cyka Blyat Why do you think so?
A Cow only muricans
This is absolutely incredible, huge respect to anyone who’s this self sufficient. I’m looking to get into hand loading my ammo but I def do not have time for all this
Thankfully, you can purchase premanufactured projectiles! I’m tempted to start putting together a casting set up though, because you can also get lead from tire shops in the form of tire weights. Tire shops have to pay to get rid of it, so you can often get it for free! You can also skip the powder coating if you use copper gas checks (I believe). Little bit of cost (3¢ a piece?), but saves a lot of time. And could possibly be cheaper than the powder coating equipment.
You don't use gas checks???
Batches, I do 1000 cases a day. Then you can reload 200 at a time. It only has to be trimmed the first time, swagging as well. Get a progressive press and 200 only takes an hour
@@eric78704you don’t have too, leading isn’t an issue, accuracy suffers a bit though. I only gas check for accuracy loads
When off the shelf ammo disappears this guy will be king!
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@@dylanmartin6394 it's always good to learn how to do this. I don't but I'd prefer to know it and not need it rather than need it and not know it.
This guy is now king.
😧
Your enthusiasm and dedication is unbridled.
I’m a reloader and it’s good to see how others do it. Thanks for sharing. God bless.
People who think this is all to time consuming need to just buy ammo.
All of the steps involved in this process is part of the fun of the hobby, yes it does take some time, but those of us who enjoy the entite process dont mind taking the time to custom build our ammo.
Ots kinda like some people enjoy getting wet and taking the time to hand wash their car and other just drive through an automatic wash, either way is fine and its simply a preference between one or the other.
I remember when I used to be able to buy 1000 of 7.62 x 39 for under a hundred bucks.....
but we all know who made that change... hahahahaha
Dam you just dated yourself......old
First 1k 7.62x39 in a fifty Cal can at a local pawn shop, $75 ... That was also in the late 90"s
Imagine:
* *BING* *
Oh boy, my bullets are ready!
* BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG *
atleast he's recycling?
Not recycling, reusing.
@@acefromwithin2079 reusing brass, recycled lead
The definition of “reloading” make almost everything from scratch
It makes me laugh when I see the comments about "wasting your time." I'd say you're doing a good job "investing" your time when you're able to save that much money.
sure its cheap after the initial $2000 in parts to get going
gooseontheloose12 An old guy at a shooting range told me one time 'Its not about shooting cheaper, Its so you can shoot more. Thats all' Lol.
sergeantbigmac yep correct I personally save all my store bought ammo and just practice with reloads don't need expensive ammo to shoot paper.
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The fact that you think it costs $2000 to do this shows your overwhelming ignorance.
Wondering why you are watching a reloading video if you don't find it to be a fascinating hobby? And if you do find it to be a fascinating hobby then I wonder if you feel that hobbies should be cost effective to be worthwhile? If you are doing something that is cost effective and worthwhile is that not considered just work that you happen to enjoy? And if you are doing work that you happen to enjoy is it not out of the question to do a hobby that you derive
pleasure from but saves you money from the cost of another related hobby that is a dead bang loser as far as cost goes? This isn't necessarily pointed at you but just making a general statement that hobbies don't have to make financial sense to be enjoyed and frequently if not generally do not meet that criteria. Just sayin, No hate here. Do as you please. I like to reload and I spend a small fortune doing it. So what?
Wow this is crazy man , you’re a super inspirational person , to see you do this gives people the hope to go out and do it themselves, this is one of the most valuable learning experiences I’ve ever had on TH-cam without a doubt
Super interesting, GREAT video and editing man
lmfao of all people to see here. Whats up man
Hey guys. I had to re-upload this video because When I was editing I forgot to include the step of resizing the powder coated bullets which is very important. Thanks for watching!
i have a question. do u use a gas check on your bullets?
No. Not necessary with a powder coated bullet.
oh ok awesome
CountryBoyPrepper why u powder coat
To prevent lead buildup in the barrel. Alternatively, he could use gas checks or copper plating.
Great job! You really have a passion for guns and reloading. You embrace the spirit of America. Keep up the good work with the young ones!
I’m really no expert or anything, but would it be way cheaper to just buy new ammo? I mean, all the tools, machines and your time isn’t cheap.
agreed haha
vonbrigð i after a while it becomes cheaper money wise.
vonbrigð i its cheaper in the long run
and in place of searching the shotbullets he could have worked
also think he could have earned what he saved by flipping burgers, but he prolly enjoy this and in the zombie apocalypse theese preppers hope is comming, the ammo store is most likely closed.
Don't be this guy, if you're going to melt down lead wear a good respirator, and when handling wear gloves. Lead poisoning is a slow killer it takes years, but doing stuff like this is super bad for you so use protection.
I was thinking the same thing. All that lead can't be good for you
Also, don't use gloves when handling rotary power tools.
You really have to ingest lead to have issues. Casting doesn't usually cause enough vapor, and just wash your hands before eating or smoking...
@@thedobc it's your health not mine, but I used to know a lot of good lead painters back in the day who never wore a respirator. Used to, being the keywords in that sentence.
@@thedobc Not really, glass blowers working with crystal glass can easily get lead poisoning by inhaling it. Glass is much hotter than what it takes to melt lead, though
I’m just beginning to research reloading. Seems overwhelming. So much equipment so many steps.
Watch Tiborasaurus Rex and Gunblue490. Both have very good reloading videos for beginners. It doesn't seem that difficult after watching them. This guy is not a beginner, and it doesn't have to be this complex.
If you can can follow a recipe exactly then you can reload, sure there is a cost to entry into it. It allows me to hand tailor an ultra match load for my specific rifle/handgun, while saving me quite a bit of money depending on the caliber. I do not take it to this gentleman's degree in all fairness. Watching videos and listening to the pros and cons of reloaders about equipment can save you money in the beginning as well, good luck.
It does not have to be this complicated.
@@me2bfc thanks man, your right.
@@jhphoto100 yea since this video I have bought a press and some other tools deburring, scale. My setup is not the most efficient process but I enjoy it. It’s fun adjusting loads and seeing the difference in ballistics. And as of now I still have both eyes,both hands, my nose, and all 10 fingers.
My hat is off to you brother that was time consuming. But I'm glad to see your boys slinging some lead!
most people are comparing this ammo to just walmart stuff but doing this lets him make ammo that shoots good in his guns and doesnt have to pay for match ammo if he matches it himself.
If a zombie apocalypse happens im finding you first
CJ lol ammo won't be a problem when you don't have to pay for it
Gunner Peterson what about if you run out of ammo???
Adam 23 how dare you speak like that
pyromanenadolf you know. Solar panels are a thing. You don't have to rely on power plants for power.
Dayam CJ you's a busta! Grove Street!
big up for the "arcade sound" when colleting brass :D
In case ya'll wanted to know, his HEBREW TATTOO reads "Yeshuah" (Jesus). Hebrew is read from right to left, so it reads here YSUA. That little apostrophe-looking letter at the beginning, is the "Y" sound is called a Yod in Hebrew. The second letter that looks like a "W" is actually an S sound. The third letter is a Vav, and makes an "O" sound (but can make other sounds as well). The final letter is the Ayin, which makes the "Ah" sound in this instance. Since Hebrew is an ancient language trying to make do in a modern world, the spelling and pronunciation can vary. Regardless, gotta give this guy credit for going to this extreme to make his own rounds!
No one asked, this is reloading. Don't bring religion into every God damn thing.
Love the video.
@@nullvid It’s freedom of speech. So get use to it!
@@nullvid why even comment just move on
@Shane Powell End Israel altogether
Did I just hear youtuber say he likes to listen to audiobooks without advertising audible. Amazing
Next I’m going to call my boss with my Lee 1 to 1 telephone and inform him I don’t have enough hours in the week to work there any longer.
Really though, I enjoyed the video. Lots of knowledge you got man. Thumbs up.
the lost art of hand loading
its actually pretty common now. Even with guys who dont shoot a lot, i know guys who probably shoot less than a few hundred rounds per year that still handload
i'll stick with my fmj 556 at 17cents per round
bren masl where do you get them for that price? The cheapest I've found is Wolf Polyformance steel case ammo for 22 cents per bullet
That's some cheap ass'd ammo !
majorsmackdown n
Steel case?
CTM ATV What's wrong with steel cased ammo? It runs just as well as brass and, in my opinion, the cases are prettier.
TulAmmo primers - from Russia with love))
Impressive, I did basically the same thing with a few less steps (pistol) when I was shooting a lot in college.
You should definitely treat yourself to a lee loadmaster progressive press (or any progressive press for that matter). Get a round per handle pull, vs one every 4-5 pulls.
Keep up the good work!
What you do here is very nice. However on you cost analysis you are not counting your time and effort and according to this video it is a lot! On a per round basis I estimate you invest about 30-40 seconds (not counting sorting of brass)
solracotos based on your time estimate, if he values his time around $30/hr that's ~35 cents a round
Plus all the power he uses. Having the owen run for 2 hours is not cheap either.
Precisely !
Wyr
God bless
This is more than a hobby at this point. It's a full time job...and the amount of equipment required to get to this point is pretty daunting. I doubt anyone who shoots less than 20,000 rounds a year would find this even remotely worthwhile.
I would surmise that the enjoyment of the time making the rounds is a hobby. The hobby pays for the time. One doesn't say he lost 20 bucks because they mowed their own lawn.
Absolutely awesome that you do all of this by yourself. Im sure this took quite a bit of time/research and trial and error to figure everything out. But in Germany we have a saying: "Selbst ist der Mann", which roughly translates to: Real men are self-reliant.
Love this vid man, probably one of my favorite on affordable reloading. The only thing I would recomend is wearing a propper mask when dealing with sifting for or smelting lead. You don’t want any more of that stuff in your blood then the absolute unavoidable...
“It’s restricting his oxygen!”
as a hobby it makes sense but if I work 8 hours of overtime a month I can just by ammo outright
I made that same point above. Compare the time spent reloading and the cost savings to available options making money. Measure where you're gaining value. For some, reloading. For others, buying.
The one benefit though of reloading is dependency. You don't have to rely on stock. If shit hits the fan, you're set. Until there's a national ammo registry (I imagine i'll see that within my lifetime) I have zero need to reload.
It sounds good in theory. you could buy it, but you couldn't shoot very much. there are many factory loads that are now about $2 a round
Shit hits the fan and you will still run out of primer and powder at some point.
Chad Emig ...part of the point is that if shf and in time of trouble you can't buy everything, so make or reuse as much as feasible...and certain things you can barter with or for...
You can store 50,000 primers and a few pounds of powder fairly easily compared to 50,000 rounds of ammo.
Very well done cbp!
Unfortunatley, I don't have the time to do this fun shit!
Find some time. Nothing is more stress releasing then building ammo and shooting it.
There is no excuse for not having fun no matter what job you have or how old you are
best post!
SAVAGE308SNIPER true news too I don’t know how justify spending my time on it when i could just buy ready ones
could you make a video showing youre ammo stockpile??
Excellent Work, LOTS of work. Very good information, I appreciate all the information, I am slowing working my way to load .223/5.56 and .308, been loading .38/.357 and 9mm for years, just started to load 40S&W. This is really good information. Keep up the good work.
If the shit hits the fan, he’ll be one of the richest men in world, he’s basically printing currency.
Nice video, but it useless in Russia.
I can ovn any type of ammo, but rifle cartriges reloading forbidden in Russia.
Ironically tulammo primers made in neighbour town.
already allowed from this week.
Understandable. Hope it gets better товарищ (I speak a basic amount of russki)
@B S wow that realy sounds stupid. I mean, if you only can buy 50 rounds per year, why are you even allowed? This makes no sense. Make it legal or not, but something like this is just stupid
@B S Reading your comments from other parts of the world just makes me appreciate living in the USA even more! I don't know what you guys hear about living in the USA, but I can tell you it is awesome! I live in Texas and owning guns here is just normal. Just yesterday, my son and I spent the day shooting on our own gun range. What is life without freedom? If you love shooting and owning guns, move here as fast as you can! We will welcome you with open arms and share our guns and ammo too.
Great content brother. This seems like something I should do when I hang up my combat boots. Thanks for sharing
pure awesomeness. i too am in the same boat of high volume shooting vs stockpiling. i have my reloads down in the teens: $0.15-.20.
love the sound effects! good stuff
Thanks!
I'm not a gun expert, what exactly is the purpose of powder coating a bullet? Is it just to protect the barrel from lead sticking behind?
QuaDECH I can tell you how to strip any rifle or how any firearm works but I ain't got a damn clue
its to prevent lead fouling. super sonic unjacketed lead bullets will surface melt and foul up the barrel.
It prevents leading in the barrel like Signal Jones said. It also acts as a lubricant. Old school lead loads needed a wax mix to put in lube grooved bullets for lubrication as it went down the barrel and to prevent gas cutting of the lead bullets. It allows you to run bullet projectiles at higher speeds and pressures approaching copper jacketed projectiles depending on the round.
Mik Wri Nope. The temps are true but lead causes waaaay more friction-thus heating the bullet more than is its plastic coated.
Kudos for trading your brass findings with local reloaders. It not only provides greater efficiency also builds community.
OUTSTANDING>>>> to all the people speaking to the time invested, Id rather run the press than watch the agenda pipeline any day of the week.
when a jew finds about melting shit
Holy cow. Talk about time consuming. Yikes
Bob P Yeah, hand-loading rifle ammunition is a bear.
Some people watch TV when the are bored. Other people engage in their hobbies when they are bored. Everybody has down time. It just depends on how you want to spend it.
Bob P it's like extreme couponers I spend 90 hours a week clipping coupons and I save $250. what's your time worth
luvdady If you have never cultivated a hobby I recommend you put that down on your "bucket list". It is one of the great enjoyments of life! It is EXTREMELY enjoyable to learn about something you know very little about through experiencing it directly. Then through proper cultivation of that ENJOYMENT you become GOOD at it. You then develop friendships through it with others of like mind set. It pays off in many ways for an enjoyable life. Having firearms is different from reloading firearms for target shooting and competition shooting. I hope that you change your outlook on life and learn to someday appreciate a man pouring his heart and time into his enjoyments rather than summarizing the time spent on an expense sheet as “hours you could have spent doing something else”.
abrahamhdz this is my hobby here responding to people who spend $5 of there life saving a nickel.
Your knowledge for the process and patience is impressive. I personally don’t think I’d have the patience for all that.
I really like this recipe.
Needs a little more Salt
Now 10¢ is just the primer 😂
That would be awesome to learn how to do. Seems really calming.
To everyone saying this isn't worth the time and they would rather buy ammo, please send me your spent brass. I am glad that most do not think it's worth it more lead and brass for me and guys like me. Also everyone keeps saying $1000's in equipment, keep thinking that, as I said more lead and brass for me. But if you may be interested in reloading that press is around $120, dies $40, powder charge $38, lee pot $69, casting mold $40, scales $20, powder $20, primers $30, basically everything to load .223 for less than $400 total. Far from thousands.... I do a few things different though I do buy lead from the scrapyard a lot easier than sifting I am lazy there.
But his labor is priceless so just shipping.
So this Lee company make some gun stuff I think he said lol
You are a patient man who enjoys what he does! You have a machine shop in your garage, cool beans. Great video, keep doing what you're doing big guy and thanks for sharing!!!!
"Impressive. Most impressive..."
- Darth Vader
I used to think reloading wasn't worth it but now that you have too do a background check to buy bullets in California every time, I think I'm going too start doing reloads.👍
Bingo!
This is not a law in California. I live in Socal
RuggedSportsmen In July of 2019 you will have to do background checks to by ammo in California. Nice to know you know the laws in your state. You are a fucking idiot.
Never get tired of your videos popping up. I actually miss the reloading and casting videos
Incredible Video Man.. well done
What speed are you pushing those bullets with just powder Coating? If you don't chrono, how many grains of powder?
2550 fps with 22.3 gr. out of a 16 inch barrel.
The Reloader Dude what kind of grouping are you getting? I like the whole idea especially if it is reasonable grouping at 1/200 yards.
Exactly what I expected for
Someone who leaves the lens cap on during the intro
I like how he just inserts a lot of stock sound effects
Hey fellow kids
Only 1 min. into the first video of yours i've seen, and let me say, these are great! The sound effects when your picking up brass makes this cannel an Instasub
This guy currently owns a gold mine.
When it's all said and done it has to take at least a minute a round for all the steps.
Good video, but its costing you way over .10 a round if you figure the power cost and time. But hell if you like doing it so what :)
Skip Tindle yeah he recognizes that, he looks at it as a hobby, kind of like how I may look at baseball as a hobby. So it works well for him:) me myself, I would probably just collect the brass not the lead lol
Skip Tindle he does this for enjoyment the same way you watch tv. it doesn't cost him time
Why does everyone keep talking about the cost of time? Do you keep track of how much money you could be making when you're doing whatever hobby you do?
Great advice, and can tell you're a good guy the way you were explaining things to the youngin.
$0.10 per round, $5000 worth of equipment, $10,000 worth of time.
Looks cool but if rather buy ammo
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Yeah, and one hour watching of TV costs me $50 ... and man! How much is my sleep worth!
An American "factory bullshit" killed a quarter billion people in the 20th century alone. I think it works fine for the purpose.
Braindead commie spotted.
not really lol
god bless the American way
Hey man, long time fan. I remember watching these videos years ago when you first released them. I’m not into reloading but there’s something so satisfying about these videos. I came back to watch them all again.
I saw you haven’t posted a video in a couple years. Hope you’re doing well man.
That seems like alot of equipment to buy
Skinnyjams equipment that lasts generations, which you can buy second hand for a decent price and that everyone you know can use at anytime
If 500 Bucks Is To Much For You Then Yeah It's Expensive
Brilliant! Teach us your way of reloading .308! (if you ever do that sort of thing)
Same exact process, just different components.
For .308 annealing the cases is a must or they will crack. Recommend discarding the brass after three cycles.
Awesome video. Love the process. Don't think I'll be able to get into this hobby as soon as I thought though. Everything from the equipment costs to the amount of space required to even store all that stuff seems crazy. Don't think the wife would be too thrilled about me turning the garage into a bullet factory lol
I wish we were friends.
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so all that time is ?? what days , weeks FREE really ..whats the cost of the gear , electric , powder coat , tumbler , trimmer, dies , swagger [ dillion is top $$ ] ..so 1000 primers are $ 30 = .03 cents powder per lb is $ 35 .. that's 280 rounds at 25 grains = .13 cents per round SO we are up to .16 cents per round .. should I go on ..
LOL! Please allow me to enlighten you. Fuel, powder coat, and case lube cost are minuscule per round but I'll do the math for you. I can produce about 300 pounds of lead alloy ingots from one propane bottle which cost me $15 to refill at walmart. 300 pounds of lead equals 38,181 fifty-five grain bullets which equals $.00039 per round in fuel cost. The powder coat cost $6 per pound at Harbor Freight. I have powder coated about 4000 bullets so far and have used maybe half of it. So that's conservatively about $.00075 per round. The case lube is made from 99% isopropyl alcohol and liquid lanolin which I bought on Amazon for $18. It will probably last me the rest of my life. I'm not sure how to calculate the per round cost of that and the electricity but I can assure you they are even cheaper. Next you mention the cost of the gear. I would refer you to this video I made on the subject. th-cam.com/video/SvEfWmHpQcE/w-d-xo.html Then you mentioned the value of my time. I don't watch TV. I reload and do other productive things for enjoyment. I would ask how much is your TV time worth? Less than my reloading time I'm guessing. Your prices on powder and primers are not my prices and your recipe is not my recipe. BTW, I'm funding my powder and primer cost the same way I funded my reloading equipment so actually I have ZERO out of pocket expense per round. Have a great day!
your reading to much into this , I reload also for the last 40 years ,rain days . winter stuck in house etc .. ya well worth it but at some point your time does come into play on cost, melting lead and skimming , digging lead out of berms , etc .. that must be accounted for and the cost of the start up press, gear , dies , melting pot .. that said how does the lead / hardened ? tin / wheel weights / ratio ..with the powder coat do at 3200 fps on the barrel [ leading ], and say 200 yards groups, ??
I don't watch TV either. Completely useless time vampire it is.
have you ever used gas checks to keep the barrel from leading at the fps . a 223 should run .. 55 gr around 3200 fps . or are you running slower .. I tried 303 Britt lead and when stepped up it broke apart above 1800fps
If you shoot enough this will pay for itself. It is also fun and a hobby. You don't do it in one day. You do a little at a time, in steps in batches. You can produce an amazing amount of ammo quickly. Cost of gear? Small, $500 to $1000. Now think about it. $0.40 a round verses $0,10. Shoot a 1000 rounds that is $300. Shoot that year after year... I reload 9mm but buy my bullets, copper plated... it cost me about $0.15 a round... or $7.50 per 50. The real secret is independence, a source of ammo. I have 1000's of bullets, primers and pounds of power... I have over 1000 rounds of 9 mm but 2000 in supplies. Is ammo gets scarce I can make it. I have lots of brass. If needed I could make bullets.
The only thing better then reloading your own bullets is doing it cheap. I am with you on this I haven’t bought ammo in years . Powder and primers is all free lead free brass and a little work makes me smile ..👍🦦
nice I like the vid you did some good editing
you got my sub
Thanks!
Those Mario pickup sound effects got me. I'm sold C:
What is your time worth? Seems like these bullets may cost you more than 10 cents...
yeah he could just spend that time watch youtube!! i am sure that will pay off some day.
Unless he is skipping work then its worth nothing. Well, it might be worth a few reruns on tv. Thats about it.
Chris Kristopherson For the grand majority of us, our time is worth nothing. If you are not actively doing something that brings you income, then your time isn't worth jack. This argument always makes me laugh. If he was doing this INSTEAD of working a job, then yes it costs him work time and therefore money. But since he is using his leisure time...well, you can make the connection
That is a bit short sighted. Do you understand opportunity costs? The amount of time this guy wastes far outweighs any monetary savings. This should be making you laugh! I can always make more money, I can not make more time. Everyone has just 24 hours a day, it seems you don't value yours much
Opportunity Cost is the loss of potential gain from other alternatives when one alternative is chosen. hmmm... So you tell me what this ammo is costing him!
anything worth doing takes time and effort. thanks for the video
It seems like it takes you several hours to make some rounds...if you value your time, and factor in the time invested, its definitely not .10 cents a round
Unless you enjoy it. Eg. time spent playing a video game is free because I enjoy it, I don't say it costs me $10 per hour of time spent playing.
Reloading Is a hobby for most so well I agree time is a consideration the benefits of reloading are more then just the cost. If you can reload while doing something else you enjoy like for me audiobooks or talking on the radio(ham) The net time is free. Reloading can also be therapeutic. My uncle has long since passed away but people still talk about his reloads. There is something to be said about self reliance and making something with you own hands. I know he enjoyed the process and took pride in the result.
I'm a full-time student; my time has no value.
That all depends. Lets say you can so something (like a hobby job) that pays $10 per hour. Using 40 cents per round for example, you could buy 100 rounds for 4 hours work. Can you collect the brass, dig the lead, melt the lead, make the bullets, coat the bullets, clean the cases, lube the cases, load the rounds, etc for 100 rounds in less than or equal to 4 hours? If not you'd be just as well off to work the hobby job and buy your ammo from a pure economic point of view.
DSCKy For the people that feel reloading is work and similar to a job, then reloading is not for you. Many reloaders like myself find it interesting, enjoyable, and relaxing to reload. You also learn a lot about ammunition, how it's made properly, how it functions, what to look out for with bad or defective ammo, etc... And probably the biggest benefit of reloading is you are able to make much higher quality rounds then your basic bulk ammo, so in your calculations, you should use the price of buying match grade ammo instead of bulk price ammo as your money factor.
I applaud your diligence to this. But..... The equipment, labor, etc makes this process more costly than simply buying the rounds. At least for most. There is no way a person could manufacturer rounds at the cost that ammo manufacturers do. Only by discounting labor, equipment, etc is this even remotely possible.
Still, you deserve some huge props for all the work you do to enjoy your hobby.
Somebody has always got to chime in on how to be a Ameri-can't instead of an Ameri-can...
abrahamhdz Not sure what you're talking about. If you want to mine lead, take apart batteries, smelt lead, etc please fell free to do so. But facts don't really care about your feelings. And neither does reality.
Or maybe you're advocating going to the range & digging up lead. as well as the other dangerous stuff done in this vid.
Oh well. Sadly there are few that have common sense or know how to use it if they had it.
It's not Americant he's not saying you can't do this he's merely pointing out the downside. Most shooters don't reload. Also most accidents that occur in shooting come from homemade rounds that are double charged or simply pushing ballistics. This guy is clearly doing an excellent job and if he's saving money then great for him. I personally wish I had the time to do this. I will reload hunting ammo but i can't sit their and do 250 rounds of .223 or 9mm
Zaes666 He is raining on the other guy's parade. He may be polite about it but that is still what he is doing. If you or he don't enjoy the hobby enough to do this then that is fine. Different strokes for different folks.
abrahamhdz I do reload... if you read my post I said I wish I had the time to reload more than just my hunting ammo and match ammo.I am too busy to reload my .223/9mm practice ammo. I spend that free time at the range practicing.
great video bud, looks like a very relaxing process. thanks for taking the time to video and share for us
whos this Lee guy and why do you have so many of his tools???
res1492 I think lee is his husbands name.
Check out leeprecision.com.
res1492 your kidding right?
But isn't all the propane/fuel very expensive?
Well, if he made just over minimum wage and worked he would end up ahead just buying the rounds anyways. The only time its worth reloading for me is for my 6.5 creedmoor where the load is critical... loading some out of balance soft lead nonesnse with powder coat is such a terrible waste of time and resources. The rouds will either have to travel slow as dirt or be so deformed your might as well be shooting straight up in the air
bobwatters simple, i can reload cheaper then budget ammo but get a higher quality round. putting a price on time is irrelevant. how much money do you spend watching TV? Sleeping? None obviously so why would reloading be any different if you enjoy it?
Vernon Ziebell unless your reloading hand cast, harvested lead - or an extreme speciality round that's almost never commercially produced - I'd be more than surprised if you could possibly reload cheaper than budget ammo
Assuming the extremely unlikely scenario you can reload for less than places purchasing bullets, primers, cases, and powder 70% under retail by the millions - making minimum wage and purchasing the rounds would put you ahead unless you had a seriously commercial grade reloading setup and tens or hundreds of thousands to invest to purchase at that economy of scale
Don't be delusional. I'm a serious reloader, but not an idiot. The cost of reloads haven't been less than factory ammo for over a decade in most cases. I don't count money spent sleeping because I don't sleep when i could be at work. I do count reloading, brewing, etc because I do it when I could b working. Only an idiot or so,embody that enjoyed reloading for reloading (or didn't value their time at all) would say it's a smart choice or cheaper than buying
Let me address some of the comments about hidden cost. First, to address the cost of equipment I'll refer you to the video linked below. The cost per round for electricity, propane, and powder coat is minuscule. I don't know how to calculate it exactly but I'd estimate it's probably less than $.001 per round. I can calculate the cost of propane per round. It cost me $15 to fill my tank. With one tank I can produce 300 lbs. of lead ingots. 300 lbs. of lead equals 38,181 bullets at 55 gr. each. That's $.0004 per round in propane cost. A pound of powder coat cost $6. I've cast over 5000 bullets with it so far and I don't think I've even used half of it. I have no idea what the electricity cost to run my toaster, tumbler, and oven are. Even if you could convince me that my per round expense was $.01 more it would still be well worth it to me. As for the cost of my time. I'd say my time is worth about as much as the time others spend watching TV. I cut mine off.
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Holy shit!!! This is one of the manliest videos on TH-cam!!
it 11 30 at night and i dont know why im watching this i live in canada and we dont have guns
Big Mack hate to be you man
Yeah, Canada has pretty decent gun laws, not America good, but you can still have some dang fun guns
Anyone who says well doesn’t the equipment cost blah blah blah? Well it’s a one time cost it’s not like he has to buy new machines every time. It doesn’t pay for itself right always but with time it will. It’s also a hobby of his it’s something he enjoys doing so why not? He’s not saying everyone has to do this he’s only showing you how he does it and how much each round costs. It’s not for everyone like any hobby it’s gonna take some of your time.
Semper Fi he probably shoots more than you tho
Got a like from me just for the sound effects when picking up the brass. You made my day.
Thought that were lipsticks man. 😃
ray hanes so true
what about time commitment? i mean, the skill is certainly useful but seems like it'd be WAY cheaper to just pick up an extra shift (depending on your hourly).
Reloading is a hobby in itself. You are spending quality me time doing something that you like to do. Of course if you hate reloading and love your work, then just buying the ammo would make sense.
That still factors into cost.
So you don't get it. That's OK. There is an article on the Wikipedia explaining what a hobby is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby
xjyrki never said it wasn't a hobby. never said anything condescending. just asked a legitimate question. i'm sure it's a relaxing pass time, but that was not the video's thesis. you need not act like that.
I was replying to Daniel Mz, who wrote "That still factors into cost."
Your an outstanding human being, i wish i had your resourcefulness and your patience.
Seems a lot of fun - but takes plenty of time.