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- In the early days of the space race, agency researchers in Russia and at NASA really weren't sure all what would happen to an astronaut in space. They didn't know if a human mind could handle actually seeing Earth or what would happen to the human body when exposed to long periods of weightlessness. Would their blood forget which way to pump? Would their eyeballs shift or their inner ears wig out? They sent up mice and monkeys and dogs, to see what happened, and in 1961, the Russians strapped a man to a rocket headed for orbit. Yuri Gagarin was the first person in space. The ultimate human guinea pig, he survived, becoming an international hero.
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"50 hookworms is too much, but 10 is just right" is a quote for the ages.
A new Fractured Fairy Tale. Goldilocks and the 10 Hookworms. 😊
Or surgical leeches
Snow White and the Ten Hookworms.
Sleepy Hooky
Grumpy Hooky
Gimpy Hooky
Etc.....
Salute to Marie and Pierre Curie and all the scientists who conducted these tests on themselves for the sake of science and us.
they didnt conduct tests on themselves tho they didnt know or suspect the damaging effects and so didnt test for them.
GO CURIES!! WHOOOOO!!
I played Marie Curie for a Drive-Thru History class.
Google Daniel Alcides Carrión
I'm gonna do the Attack on Titan satute.
Akansha Singh u can talk to the dead
?
I experiment on my family with food, I call it Dinner.
so you are the one -_- who discovered food poisoning
Actually the more they eat the more full of shit they become.
necessaryevil455 ba dum tss*
The WinRar!
Haha
The only reason that Pierre wasn't killed by the radiation poisoning was that he was struck by a cab in the streets of Paris.
What does getting hit by a cab have to do with surviving radiation exposure?
He spent just as much time around radioactive materials as his wife. If he hadn't been hit and killed by that cab he would have died of radiation poisoning just like her.
What kind of a statement is that
A factual one?
So, what did the cab do again?
The people who tested on themselves are beacons of altruism.That is just the most selfless thing I have heard, to you know cause pain and discomfort for the safety and health of other humans. I mean it could have been they just really wanted a Nobel Prize and recognition, but they risked their lives and that is quite something.
Altruism makes society stronger.
As it applies to physical anthropology the concept of altruism is a matter of benefitting others at cost to yourself. In closely related primates it tightens social bonds between individuals while in the kingdom Animalia at large it ensures better chances of survival for the population (which is particularly important when you have a vested genetic interest in that population's survival), and it's what's thought to have developed the intensely close socialization patterns in early human ancestors that both allowed for and required increased intelligence.
For this fact it's a matter of rational self-sacrifice rather than self-interest, but rational no less; you're doing something that may pose a risk to yourself, or it may just cost you time or energy, but which benefits the longterm survival of your genetic material. Genetically we're more predisposed to care for that long-game of inheritance when our genes have already been passed on than we are for our own individual survival. This is why it's selected for generally in evolution and why it's as honed as it is in humans particularly: without innate physical prowesses our best chance at survival would be intelligence, the close social bonds that allow its cultivation, and using that intelligence to benefit longterm survival beyond just ourselves -- altruism.
BobWidlefish I'd like to disagree if only for the fact that it's certainly a sacrifice for yourself in that you put in the investment (and potential risk, depending on circumstances) without a receiving a reward for you yourself. It's a detriment, in fact, as you sacrifice something of yours for the betterment of another with no indication that this action will be reciprocated. Strictly biologically it is by definition a loss on your account, and thus sacrifice. You incur a cost, even if it's just energy, food, or time, and reap no benefit for your actions -- which is just to say that the transaction is a one-way matter. Rather than a reciprocal exchange of goods or services it's a donation on your part: you give up something of yours and get nothing in return other than the intangible satisfaction of having aided someone or the knowledge that your population as a whole is better equipped for survival, if even only moderately. That you do good for others with no "real" (biologically real, which is to say sustenance or a returning-of-favors) return on investment for you as an individual is the core of altruism in both the physical sciences sense and the philosophical (so far as I understand it in philosophy, anyway).
Placing your own needs below the needs of the community as a whole or the needs of particulars within that community in order to maintain that whole's strength is absolutely altruism. Say you're a communal ape, and you need to eat in order to survive; so do other members within your community; you sacrifice the fruits and bushbabies you've just foraged and hunted for to a sick member of your community. This is altruistic behavior because you have no compensation for your action, which has cost you a meal.
Or, in the case of the above scientists, you've tested treatments on yourself at the very real potential cost of your own life. You incur the risk of potential death, while the benefit is for the group as a whole rather than you yourself. This, too, is absolutely altruistic behavior.
BobWidlefish + Riley Vandewater
You're both making really good arguments. Personally, I gotta go with Riley, but you both are making astoundingly good arguments for the semantics of what truly qualifies as altruism. What should be considered altruism, and what shouldn't... I know this is a one year old thread, but still! Beautifully said guys!
Altruism isn't so great. I'd rather live but most of society dies. After all, if I'm dead, I can't care if they're alive.
If hookworms really do help with asthma and seasonal allergies and you decide to infect yourself with them to help with those ailments at that point isn't it more a symbiotic relationship instead of the hookworms being parasites?
+Matthew the Earth Adept id rather try a herb ;)
+Woof Not on the right side of The Pond. Anyway, shouldn't it be THE herb ;)
In RP the "h" is pronounced, in contrary to AmE ;)
It's not considered a symbiosis because the hookworms aren't what's causing the benefit, the immune system is. The leading theory is that the branch of the immune system that responds to parasites is also the branch that's involved in autoimmune disease. That being said, a lot of it is still being actively researched.
Parasitism is a type of symbiosis anyway.
Kudos on mentioning unit 731... A LOT of people don't know about general Shiro ishiis fucked up experiments
Right
finally! someone who does not believe inhumane human testing is a thing of the past
Jan Ritter *casually running in background*
Wait, the Curies didn't discover uranium. They discovered polonium and radium.
Hmm... asthma or hook worm. Asthma or hook worm.
I'd take the asthma.
...I think i got it...
*50 HOOKWORMS*
Asthma
Well; how about hook worms with asthma? Checkmate nature!
Hookworms
What about the Egyptians? After you take out four organs, put them in a jar, and fish out the rest (besides the heart), I think you would know where everything was in there.
John Meo the Egyptians had advanced chemistry and medical knowledge but they notoriously kept it secret; only sharing it among the elite classes who practiced the sciences. When ancient Egypt began collapsing, the common peasants rebelled and many of these keepers of knowledge were killed or exiled from Egypt. The knowledge, for the most part, died out with the people who knew it, as the information was mostly passed from master to disciple verbally to safeguard the secrets. The deaths of those in the know reset medical and chemical knowledge by hundreds of years. That’s why public education for all is highly important in the modern era.
Give me some of those hookworms. Right now. About 10 of them will do.
order them online
+cold hunter YOU CAN ORDER THEM ONLINE??? TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!
+Al Su I'd love a cure for my asthma that always flairs up to epic proportions at the beginning of summer
Apart from pills, do tell me. I a on a constant pill regimen to keep my chronic urticaria in check.
I did that treatment. (Allergen injections) Took my pollen allergy from Bedridden Torture Victim to Highly Discomfortable but manageable.
Wtf he just gave smallpox to that kid? That's fucked up.
But in doing so, saved millions. lol
Jonathan Knobel it's for a greater good. Not doing that would be one of the biggest mistakes in history. The only upside would be the vaccine autism trend would never happen
Goodness gracious, people. Vaccines do *NOT* cause autism. *Period*.
***** i heard it from the local cat-woman. it must be true. i'd rather have super-malaria! or wait...
It wasn't smallpox, the puss he injected is damaged smallpox. Like regular vaccines it can't hurt the body. Vaccines are just damaged diseases injected to people to make them immune later on.
Holy shit you mentioned Unit 731- oh. oh you aren't. You're shying away, alas. Horrifying but fascinating shit there.
Lathy Loon Agreed I read alot on them for an Essay. The saying "horrified but intrigued" has never been so accurate .
I wish he had mentioned Henrietta Lacks.
you could say this video lacks hentrietta :D
The good, the bad, and the dirty
+Ginger Ruparts im glad i wasn't the only one
I love the Panic fandom
:)
Ahh yes the panic fandom
+Lauren the Potato We're everywhere... EVERYWHERE
Huh! Who would have guessed that Hippocrates spoke Latin! Live and learn.
...According to the venerable Wikipedia, the Latin phrase "primum non nocere" has been traced to a book by Thomas Innman, an English surgeon, in which Innman attributes the phrase to Thomas Sydenham, an influential English physician. Hippocrates didn't say this exact phrase (even in Greek), but did foster the concept in so many words.
+floofytown I was anstonished too :)
I was thinking the same thing and looking trough the comments for a comment like this one :)
please hank , we want "English subtitles" , as english is not my mother tongue and i can't catch all of the words ...... greetings from egypt
sameh elmserey do you mean Arabic subtitles
If you hit captions on the setting for the video you can select "English" which will be the subtitles, for future reference captions and subtitles are the same thing, since a Subtitle can be a secondary title for a movie/book etc. Although maybe since you're from Egypt, and YT has started lacking in quality, TH-cam doesn't have the English captions? Which would be strange but it it's YT
Sassy The Sasquatch I wish I could "love" your comment
Purple Toast he can read English but he has some trouble listening English.
Semeh,
I use CC also whenever it is available.
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4. Click on Auto-translate for language menu in alphabetical order.
5. Click on the language of your choice.
why do animals and some insects seem to clean their wounds? Wild animals and insects don't have bandages or other aid things like more "city" animals (because some wild animals live close to humans and we are able to care for them) and us humans. So...why do they do it? How does it help them? And, can licking our own wounds help heal us?
helps a little, I guess, but it's way less effective than the way we clean our wounds.
Lady Lucario My guess is no, you should not lick your own wounds. There is more bacteria in the human mouth than in a public toilet bowl, so smearing an open wound with bacteria probably isn't a good idea.
Lady Lucario thanks for the reply from your DVR sender immediately notify me
In saliva there is natural anesthetic. So ...
There's another video that talks about this very subject ... I think it's from Vsauce.
You should do a video on Henrietta Lax and how they stole cells from her for experimentation.
Isabelle Pavlik Lacks, but yeah, that would be an interesting video.
I would like to mention that Jenner learned about inoculation from one of his slaves. This was a common practice in his native region of Africa. Africa actually had a uniquely diverse knowledge of medicine until colonialism came in a severed the oral traditions. Thankfully, archaeologists are piecing together what we can learn from these cultures.
Think I rather suffer allergies than have even one hook worm in my gut.
as long as I don't exhibit the symptoms of the hookworms and other wise not know of their existence. I'd be down with it. and as long as it actually helped me with my inability to go outside for extended periods.
Brobuscus115 I agree
Given what they said about fifty being too many, I assume ten was not enough to cause significant symptoms.
they’re treatable tho... and allergies aren’t even on the same plane as asthma. also, asthma is for life, hookworms aren’t.
Dang... hearing about those people who tested things on themselves for the greater good... They're nuts but I sure respect them. X_x
Absolute badasses.
I'm surprised that the Stanford Prison Experiment wasn't mentioned. That was a go-to in ethics training because on the surface it seems harmless. It's a good example of why it's important to be thoughtful with any human experiment.
Hank is an amazing narrator.
How come if an average person states that he doesn't care that someone died he gets called "mentally ill", yet when corporate heads do it people come say "corporations are people, mate."?
I thought this would be more psychological experimentation, like the milgram experiment, but this was good too. I really like the psychology based stuff Hank, hopefully see more in the future?
9:34 You probably meant polonium and radium, uranium had been discovered about a hundred years before Marie and Pierre's research.
It was a test on radiation treatment, not the discoveriestvog periodic table elements.
love this one. greatest i could remember. the ones you've been uploading recently have been little nuggets of trivia
Man what an amazing vid. If i had any money i would certainly send some to you! I love you're fast paced assumption that we're GETTING all that you're laying out for us because it keeps the information flowing as most of us have jobs... Plz keep up the good work and keep getting smarter FOR us, and pass it on.
The Japanese of the Unit 751 got off scott free though, in exchange for their data.
TheEngineGal unit 731 you mean?
I'm glad something else noticed that glaring omission as well.
Does anybody know how to perform the bombchu-backflip-hover glitch in Majora's Mask?
wat? go search it up or something.
Don't mind me, just making sure this doesn't get relevant to the main question.
Hey buddy wrong video or else you just alienated a ton of people by making a joke that shot well over all of our heads. I think it funny regardless, however xD
Darticus the Great It wasn't a joke, I was really desperate to know how to perform a bombchu-backflip-hover glitch at the time!
Josef Schwardt
But this video has nothing to do about Majora's mask whatsoever, to my knowledge, so what you said seems extremely out of place xD.
I said I thought it was a joke because it was just so out of place that the randomness made it funny.
Hippocrates was Ancient Greek. Why was that quote in Latin?
That's like quoting a famous Chinese person in Japanese and then translating it in English. Derp.
Latin is the language of science. Pretty much any scientific discovery or law is named in Latin.
Greece was part of the Roman Empire at the time. Latin was the language of Rome. Simple as that.
It's a quote by a Greek, in Greek, in Greece. Therefore, it should be in Greek. End of story.
Burhan the Somali
Yeah, that's true, but the upperclass Romans learned it as more of a literary language as opposed to their everyday language. Of course, some people used it just as some people in the US speak Spanish on a normal day.
Jesse Schlothauer Hippocrates lived around 400 B.C. Greece was not a part of the roman empire at the time.
I respect everyone who suffered for science.
the more videos i watch the more i learn and the more i love this channel;
They didn't mention... thousands of years of Chinese medicine/acupuncture... was tested on thousands of live subjects to develope.
Don't make us wait! Skip to the ugly!
The Latin word "vacca" would actually be pronounced "wacca" (the V sound doesn't exist in original Latin).
Love Z Orange so it's vvacca? (Brought to you by Eridan)
firepiplup no. can you read?
Vacca Flocka
Destina Stallworth r/wooosh
pac-man vaccines.
I use CC also whenever it is available.
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5. Click on the language of your choice.
awesome thanks again good morning have a great weekend and I will be able too see new post God bless you and your family
I swear this dude gets his eyebrows done.
For human testing people should be volunteer
They do
"I wonder if this will hurt me..." *injects himself with (insert deadly substance here)*
One correction, Jenner injecting smallpox into his subjects arms was actually the medically accepted practice of Inoculation - most natural smallpox infections start in the lung, but in India they discovered that by deliberately infecting people so the infection started in their arm they usually experienced far less severe symptions, and a greatly reduced death rate. Since this left them immune to future smallpox infection it was widely adopted and spread across the world over time.
+BrendanKOD So the first man to vaccinate someone used the agreed standard of vaccinating someone?
This is a really powerful video. A lot of important information. Thanks for sharing.
weren't polonium and radium discovered by the Curies, not Uranium?
Yes, you're right. Hank's pronunciation of Latin is sadly horrible as well - "c" in "nocere" is not pronounced as "k" but as "ts"
Also 'Vacca' is pronounced 'Wacca' classically.
But diet can cause ulcers, I developed an ulcer from too much aspirin, I get migraines and I love spicy food, so I developed a 9cm hole in my stomach that had to be stitched up. I legally died and had to be brought back to life, I needed 14 blood transfusions because my stomach was bleeding faster than they could put the blood in me. It was terrible.
apparently spicy food cant cause ulcers
health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/digestive/spicy-food-ulcers.htm
do u have any sources that say it does?
Sorry you had to go through that
Feel better
Don't know if it was the spicy food, but the acid in the aspirin sure did because I didn't have the the bacteria that causes it they did a culture so it was either the spicy food or to much acid from the aspirin
*****
Maybe your hand slipped when you tried swallowing swords. That would have done it as well. However, they also should have noticed the terrible gash running down your esophagus...
Traditional NSAIDs (nosteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) including aspirin, are known to be a risk factor for developing gastric ulcers. By lowering your prostaglandins levels, you will have less bicarbonates (HCO3-), gastric mucus and your gastric flow will be slower. Because, HCO3- and gastric mucus neutralize the gastric acid on your gastric mucus, having less of those substance won't prevent the acid from damaging your gastric mucus which will lead to your ulcer. (It's more of a secondary effet from the drug than your diet)
Akin Turhan well that happens for not being vegan, seriusly, if you wanna live well stop eating cáncer .
two words...Captain America
One word: Delusional.
Oh my gosh.
I've been binge watching the Sci show all day and this is the first time I'd seen this guy featured in a video from so far back.
Daym!
It's like he's gone through a second puberty since this 2013 vido.
From cute and nerdy
To HELLA HOT and nerdy.
And on another note.
I love the Sci show and all its information it's given me.
This channel peaks my curiosity and builds upon the world I thought I already knew. You guys do an excellent job with your presentations while keeping thing prosessional, fun and entertaining. Thank you all for your hard work and dedication..
Hank is delightful.
I watch this kind of stuff in my free time
BrightKnightMC So?
6:20 I thought he was gonna say "Human testicles" lol
He's right. And it's people like him that the world needs because plenty of people are ignoring the warnings and somehow humanity will magically flourish despite the destruction we've caused
Thanks man, I appreciate all you do for us.
I've been wondering how much pressure humans can stand? I mean... what happens in high pressures?
Or maybe really low pressure as well?
Silver Sparks Well in low pressure the water in your body will start to boil and you suffocate. But I've never heard what happens in high pressure...
He Ka high pressure I'm pretty sure nitrogen levels are too high or something. when a diver at deep depths comes up too fast the gas bubbles expand because of changing pressures and it screws up your body. that is just war i recall from chemistry class a year ago.
they're brainz explode
I could be wrong, but I think you sufficate because can't move your chest.
Medical history has been barbaric to say the least ..
Well there you go. Don't want allergies any more? Eat some hookworms.
Passs
Interestingly enough, he wasn't far off... but apparently hookworms aren't necessary.
Recent studies have shown that allergies are the body's response to "too much hygiene" in recent years and not enough bacteria within our bodies. This is why use of antibiotics in young children is now starting to be very strongly deterred. I actually have a cousin who developed allergies to animals due to exposure to strong antibiotics to deal with I think pneumonia. Anyway, these autoimmune responses that are making people very ill are being reduced, treated, and the severities lessened in trials introducing the bodies to more healthy bacteria.
In addition to this, they've found that the recent influx of peanut and nut allergies may be connected to the fact that people AREN'T eating peanuts when they are younger because parents are scared about the effects. In Germany, their peanut allergies are actually statistically EXTREMELY low in comparison to everywhere else in the world and it is thought to be linked to a particular peanut buttery snack that toddlers are fed as often as Graham Crackers here in the US.
Yeah! Definitely learned sthg new here :D
You know human experimentation doesnt make me sick, but rather facinates me.
This may be the channel's best video.
Why did I watch this while eating..,
Maximum Ride...0_o
moral of the story: don't get thrown in jail unless you want to be a test subject
What a completely ignorant comment. Hundreds of people are exonerated every year that did absolutely nothing wrong. Our entire justice system is for profit. The poor can be arrested and held for YEARS without even being convicted. Look it up. Many people are in prison for smoking weed or tax evasion or other nonviolent crimes. Does one bad decision negate your entire humanity and your human rights? Seriously wtf
The Curies are two of my favorite historical figure. Pioneers of science, and doing anything for the exploration of their fields.
Always interesting, thank you.
not defending the atrocities that the Nazi's did, but their experimentation did bring about break throughs in medicine. such as the discovery that identical twin's bodies cannot distinguish the twins as foreign, brought a break through that eventually led to the first successful organ transplants.
Or intramedullary nailing. Once a torture technique. Now a method to repair broken bones.
I am on a medication not approved by the FDA, all because I want a cure for my condition. Aka I'm a walking talking lab rat, I report side effects and good news is that the medication works I'm doing better. Still scary in a way though.
What is your condition.
+Sir Apple I have pulmonary hypertension
You good now?
It’s been a year I’m just asking
Neo2266
okay this is scary
Jesus Christ
Jesus I was only asking
1972 Tuskegee Experiment & Unit 731!?. . . oh god humans have a long long long way to go before we are ever considered respectable beings on this damn planet. .. the fuck is wrong with humans. . yea i get it . . you need test subjects to make things better for the future. . but damn there are better ways of doing it, rather than doing it for sick pleasure of seeing others in pain and not stopping the process once you see its hurting the subject or without sneaking/tricking your "test subjects" into doing it. . .
It's more like 'some people are evil, and are clever enough to use research as an excuse." Given that, I'd not be surprised it it's always a problem.
yet i bet you want those same humans to control every aspect of the evil economy right?
Finally someone with a conscience.
Dolphins are also sadistic, are they too not respectable?
If Dolphins are doing things of this scale for pure pleasure without remorse. . then Yes. .they are not respectable beings also
Can’t wait for thanksgiving this will be a good conversation starter
I absolutely love this channel!
Sometimes I wonder where we would be now if religion never existed and we actually had the opportunity to expand our scientific knowledge and learn more without boundaries. I mean, religion restricted, and still restricts, our ability to understand the universe, and everything in it.
How does religion restrict our ability to understand the universe? And also, how does religion restrict scientific knowledge of any kind?
During the dark ages, you know, the period of hundreds of years where believing that the Earth revolved around the sun was means for execution. Not only that, but religion has prevented people from being able to understand science for thousands of years. Nowadays humans can differ in opinion with less severe consequences, but again, back then you could have been executed for believing in science, not religion.
Those were very dark ages every one can agree. But we have to understand that science (in regards to the universe) was a new idea and people weren't exactly smart or logical thinkers and tended to act irrationally when their beliefs were being tested. They would have reacted the same way they did to science as they would have if a whole other religious idea was presented before them. Point is, you really can't bash religion more than you can bash people's ignorance for the delay of science.
When you say, "Earth revolved around the sun was means for execution", you're cutting to the chase too quickly and it makes it sound irrational. First, when I think of sacrifices like that, I think of the Mayans and how they would sacrifice people during a solar eclipse, which was ages before the telescope was even invented. The time gap between the two makes for a weak argument.
"Not only that, but religion has prevented people from being able to understand science for thousands of years." You're saying the same thing you did from the first comment.
"Nowadays humans can differ in opinion with less severe consequences" I honestly think it is worse now that it ever was because of all the hate in the Middle East with the Muslims.
" back then you could have been executed for believing in science, not religion" Not necessarily execution, you would be banned from the church as a punishment though.
We shouldn't forget the difference between religion and manipulation. Religion collectively itself has a message, "Do good". Manipulation, of course, manipulates that message to, "Do good, even though it hurts others." That's a very brief explanation that may be hard to really get the grasp of.
Also, I'm not attacking you personally, just your argument and I encourage you to do the same to my argument. Your comment brought a topic that I thought would be interesting to discuss/debate and come to a logical conclusion.
MoMan711 I agree that I was being to direct with the argument, that I cut to the chase too quickly. Thanks by the way for not being a twat like other people when it comes to these conversations. I do agree that I was a bit redundant with the topics that I brought up in the second comment, in relation to the first comment. And I do agree with most of your argument. I just really do wonder what the world would be like. You have to agree with me when I say that millions of people have been killed because of religion. I'm not saying that religion in entirely bad, but i'm not saying that it is entirely good, I just would like to know if we'd be a lot more advanced if we didn't have religion as a burden we had to carry around.
MoMan711 well one example and probably not the only one, is scientific research on embryonic stem cells. for christians it was not ok to manipulate an embryon (even if it's not conscious).
I wanted to hear about Mengler's experiments on twins.
It's Mengele. And the e at the end is not silent.
he stiched them together and shit
Damn science, you scary.
misslaniepie19 I’m so used to seeing anime girl profile pictures that I almost thought that Meowth was one of those.
Watching this for our doctoral research ethics class. I was so excited when it was Hank Green!
What a great video, excellent.
2222 comments, and im here to break it.
I think a lot of this boils down to how we view prison. Prison should not be a punishment, rather a rehabilitation. Yes, the prisoner has done something wrong. The job of the prison is to find out why they did it and help them to correct the problem. I know this idea is very confusing to a lot of people and will make many angry. My thinking is that if we're not trying to rehabilitate these people, why don't we just kill them on the spot? It costs a lot of money to house prisoners, so why wouldn't we be trying to keep them from coming back in the first place?
Kate B well, if when prisons arent meant for rehabilitate will you people shut up about human experimentation... i guess the answer is no so that ends the argument...
Kyle Hudsons I'm very confused by this statement
Not that I don't want the US to focus on more rehabilitation, but the idea is of punishment as a means of deterrence. Killing someone wouldn't suffice since -- and I love this example from one of QualiaSoup's videos -- if someone caught you littering, why wouldn't you escalate to murder to have a chance of avoiding being caught? You're definitely dead if you don't.
I agree. We should kill a lot more prisoners.
2 words: Tuskegee experiment... if u don't know what that is, u NEED to read up on it. Altho I luv the US, hell, human beings in general, I'm constantly humbled by the atrocities we are capable of, either in the recent past or presently.... the only way to stop horrible things from happening is to be involved & aware of what is going on in the world! & take a stand when necessary!
Dear God.....this is absolutely horrific....ughhhh.......Why? Why?
Hmm... I'd heard that the cowpox guy got permission from volunteers to do his experiments.
nah they had no idea he gave the kids cowpox and smallpox and some only smallpox
wow, what immoral animals are we with all that testing -.- Damn!
Curies then again, really brave! We should appreciate their sacrifice.
Here's to the Latin kids that cringed at the pronunciation of "v"
Chloe Burns w* wink wink
Elibrius Project *vink vink
lol that always annoyed me !
The stuff that Dr Mengele (aka Dr Death) for the Nazis is beyond messed up. I don't know much about the Japanese stuff but I do know that if you ended up in one of their prison camps...well, there wouldn't be much of you left and I'll leave it at that.
Mat Donaldson there was no actual proof that Mengele did all of those "messed up" acts though, it's all anecdotes.
He definitely did experimentation, but where is the proof it was inhumane?
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Give inmates on death row a choice... Die right away, or be opted for human experimentation... comfort... food... they get to stay alive a little longer...but they will just be experimented on...
And you do know that about 1/3 of the people on death row are innocent, right?
You do know that's a complete guess of a statistic right? It holds no truth what so ever if it was true those inmates would have been set free, but they are proven guilty and unless evidence arises to say otherwise they are still guilty. So what's your point?
I'll have to give you the link to a few documentaries on this subject... My point is that the judicial system is incredibly flawed! A lot of people are on death row for crimes that they aren't entirely guilty of without a doubt. Logically, those who get executed should do so because they did an atrocious crime, not because they're poor and/or minority, and happened to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time. I agree with you, but only to the extent of those guilty without a doubt
Link away, I've probably seen them... I am a documentary buff so I always enjoy things like that.
regardless though, I never said if the judgement of the death penalty is good or bad, I never once said my views on our justice system, and I didn't say if I believed death row inmates are guilty or not guilty... Call this harsh, but fact is fact they are on death row. How they got there, and what the judgement was on their case is irrelevant to me.
All I am simply stating is give death row inmates a choice... Die... or give your body up for experimentation while living comfortably... that's it.
As far as flaws go... yes our justice system is flawed, but I have yet to see a justice system that isn't... every justice system is flawed... But our structure of justice based on the US constitution and its laws have been widely copied around the world, our constitution in particular ,which the ideas in the constitution were borrowed from greeks, set in motion around the world fairness and equality.. All modern European countries adapted their own versions of our system, and even the World Court located in Netherlands uses our method of laws and regulations... There is no denying that... now am I saying US constitution and its laws are perfect... no, but the true idea behind those systems is a virtue and a standing example to the rest of the world... in other words... its flawed... but its a pretty damn good system regardless.
TipTheScales27
Who cares? Guilty or innocent that person will be used to better the rest of humanity. I would be happy dying if it betterd the life of everyone to come. That's a good death and we are all going to die anyways.
Isnt experimenting on non-human animals just as much controversial? They are also sentient beings
They are. It is a complex argument though.
At least, at my Universities, we didn't experiment on animals.
Some are, some aren't. Most definitions would not consider, for example, an ant, to be a sentient being. Indeed, there is no legal regulation on "cruelty" against ants. You can burn them, drown them, microwave them, poison them, dump acid on them, irradiate them, etc, with no penalty. By comparison, doing that to a dog or cat could get you put in Jail. Doing that to another human WILL get you life in prison or the death penalty.
Peter Smythe
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But you have to experiment on *something*... :P Without experimentation, where would you get the results to suggest things? :P It's really a necessary evil...and at least it means not experimenting on our own kind. (which is a huge taboo lol)
Oh, humans make so many bad things, like being cruel to other humans, being cruel to non-human animals, destroying environment, being bigots and assholes etc., that I actually start to think that the best future is future without people. If humans just stop reproducing one day and go extinct. All problems will be solved
The ones who expirimented on themselves really did earn the nobel prize.
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Primum non nocere doesn't mean "first do no harm." It means "Be harmed not first." For it to mean what you said it did, it would have to be primum nullum damnun fac. Primum non nocere might mean what you said in Catholic Latin, but not in the Latin the Ancient Romans used. Either the Catholic Church flat out lied, changed what the source really said to make the Church's Latin seem correct, or some random person lied. Please check your sources though and learn good Latin.
Fried Keenan That's not quite right.
You've changed it into the future passive 'be harmed' as in will be harmed.
Though the alternative you have does literally mean 'first do no harm'.
Nocere is the present infinitive of noceo.So Nocere would be 'to harm'.
Primum is the adverb of primus, so means 'firstly' or just first (primus being the number 1)
non negates a verb, noun or phrase, so it can be used here to mean not 'to harm firstly'
So in literal terms, the phrase Primum non nocere could be 'to not harm firstly' or 'firstly, to not harm'
The point I guess I'm trying to make is that literal Latin translations are always very clumsy and rigid, so most people would phrase it in more flowing English, hence the 'first do no harm', which is essentially the same as the literal translation.
There are many ways to say the same thing in Latin, as there are many words that mean the same thing such as Damnum and Nocere meaning harm.
+Fried Keenan ...That's because the ancient Romans didn't actually say this. The furthest back we can trace the Latin phrase is to a book by an English surgeon published in 1860, attributing the phrase to Thomas Sydenham who lived in the 17th century. Latin has been used and abused by scholars, scientists, and Catholics for hundreds of years, and as dead languages go, it's the most animate of them all. We've been stringing up its corpse like a marionette since the Middle Ages. It being only a written, lately technical, language since the 9th century, and seeing as languages change gradually even when spoken vernacularly, it follows that the original spoken grammar of Old or Classical Latin has fallen out of Modern Latin almost entirely, to the extent to which intelligibility is preserved, anyway. Of course an English-speaking 17th century Englishman is not going to construct a phrase in a dead language with the correct ancient conversational syntax, especially when it's not necessary to do so. Written modern Latin is a very different language than Old Latin and has its own grammatical paradigms...and anyway, the meaning is clear enough.
+Fried Keenan Also I'm not sure why you're somehow blaming Hank, of all people, and _the Catholic Church_ for some reason, for the bad grammar of this phrase. As if Hank wrote the phrase for this video, and then somehow went back in time so the Church (or "some random person"?) could alter it in a fit of calculated historiplasty. Geez, _nobody lied._ You sound like you're wearing a tinfoil hat. None of these entities had anything to do with this. For one, the Catholics weren't the only ones using Latin for most of post-spoken-Latin modern history... and Hank didn't have anything to do with this commonly-repeated axiom, OR how it's grammatically constructed. It's not even an ancient phrase. Check YOUR sources.
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I love sci show but sometimes you guys are too euro centric :(
That's because america never discovered anything.
I wasnt even thinking about America, ya know theres more to the world than just europe and America.
No there isn't
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Idiotic statement.
I think human experimentation is more ethical than mice experimentation. If we are developing a drug for humans, humans should suffer for it, not mice. Mice never offered consent to be tortured for a human drug. Also, human experimentation is far more efficient. Sometimes drugs that work on mice, don't work on humans. So, why not test on humans right away?
***** Stop saying "as science tells us". Science makes no such claim. Cite one scientific study to makes such a claim.
Humans are much more important than mice :P
We should totally approve testing on murderers and rapist just saying
Nope truly won't be. They will be servicing a great deed for the rest of humanity rather than being a stain.
What I do know and anyone would know is doing nothing is a dead end. Even if the only thing we ever learn is one thing it will be eternally more useful than someone sitting in a prison.
He stripped someone of theres. Its better than wasting money and time that could go to research to cure and heal or feed people. Instead youd rather have a prison full of killers fucking each other.
Daniel Sandoval
You know, much of "civilized" society has rid of the idea of "eye for an eye" punishments for a long time. There is a such thing as ethical treatment, no matter how severe the punishment. In a way, we already punish those who hurt others by imprisoning them, that's hurt enough. But to risk the lives and well being of other people, thus adding onto their punishment for something they've already paid the price for?
We should just just ship prisoners off to thier own island again. That way in 200 years time we can all go there because the work ethic is better.
This was amazing information!
Full respect to those doctors experimenting on themselves. Wow.
its a very sensitive subject, but I suggest experimenting on inmates with life sentences or inmates who never adjust back into society and keep commiting crimes... dunno, am just saying
I don't agree, firstly it has been notified that many inmates that were previously convicted of heinous crimes were found to be innocent. They found out the the forensic evidence was flawed and modern forensics and technology used in the crime analysis proved that they were innocent. Now, just imagine these inmates being wrongly accused and then being taken against their will for medical research that could internally,psychological or even externally hurt them and in some cases even kill them. This is not even touching the ethical and moral side of this type of research not to mention the human rights.
No mention of MK Ultra? Hank confirmed for working for the Jews.
Stanford and Milgram both had informed consent of test subjects. Nobody was physically hurt in either.
Many of the subjects in MK Ultra were lied to if they were told anything at all (no consent or consent under false pretenses). Some died and one became the Unabomber.
***** With his name, his comment makes perfect sense.
Shawn Stephenson - The participants in the Stanford Prison Experiment consented to what they thought would happen; they didn't consent to what actually happened. I don't think anyone really expected the student "guards" to be forcing the student "prisoners" to dress in drag and do push-ups just because they had the authority.
Participants in the Milgram experiment were also lied to. The entire point of the experiment was to make them think they were hurting and possibly killing another human being, and then have a man in a lab coat tell them to keep going, anyway.
Nobody was "physically" hurt, no, but that doesn't make them seem much more ethical.
Like, just because MK Ultra was worse doesn't mean that sitting down in a lab and training a baby to be deathly afraid of white, fluffy things in an exploration of conditioning isn't also a bad thing to do.
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I agree to all of that. And isn't just the terrible truth that, even though some of these experiments have had lasting negative effects on those involved, we are thankful for the information gained from them?
Shawn Stephenson - I wouldn't call the truth terrible.
I'd call it fortunate. At least something good came out of all of it.
We could learn a lot with less strict human experimentation laws. Just sayin'.
you life could also be very bad
dog god You would still need the persons consent and they'd need to know what you're doing, but if you have that you should be able to do any thing.