TERRIBLE TAKEOFF: Skybus BN Islander From Land's End
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- **see below, ta
(Pretty Terrible Takeoff by Skybus' BN Islander G-SSKY From Land's End whilst carrying parcels for Atlas Air, possibly a little overloaded :/)
Additionally: DHC Twin Otter G-ISSG and BN Islander G-BUBP
** As many of you have pointed out this is not actually terrible, but is in fact a reasonably well executed short field take off, so thank you for informing me :)
So please before commenting that I'm a retard, or that I have no piloting experience (which in all fairness I didn't at the time) I am aware!
Thanks
Sam
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Ah yes, the lands end tactical departure. The trick is to build speed in ground effect, then pull up and gain altitude quickly at the airfield perimeter. This minimises the risk of small arms fire from the local Cornish separatists.
😂😂 I've heard the Cornish separatists can be a rowdy bunch 😁😂✈️✈️
LOLOLOL
funniest thing on tinternet. Well done!
Absolutely correct!! However, your closing comment had me laughing like a hyienna...loved it!!!
@@SamAllisonPlanespotting especially if their pastries are threatened!! Aaahaahaa!
That was a soft-field take off. It's a technique used when departing damp, grassy or dirt runways. As soon as possible, back pressure is applied to get the nose wheel off the ground to reduce drag (from the soft ground). The aircraft is then made to become airborne as soon as is safe. Then, the pilot stops the aircraft climbing and maintains a level attitude which allows the plane to accelerate while in "ground effect". Once the aircraft has gained enough speed (kinetic energy) by flying level, the pilot can then pull the nose up and convert much of that speed to altitude (potential energy). This technique allows the plane to clear obstacles at the end of the runway despite the soft ground. This is how and why the plane climbed so rapidly at the end. Now granted, it wasn't necessary in this case but it was neither unsafe nor a terrible takeoff. Guy was probably just practicing. Perfectly acceptable. Funny thing is, he probably did that to impress YOU since he saw you filming! :)
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Thanks :) didn't realise that was an actual technique, from the ground it just looked a bit unusual 😁😀
Yes, that take off would be very valid on the coasts of Papua New Guinea, where wet and grassy airstrips weren't always mown. For example, at places like Aitape on the northern PNG coast, you'd use the propellers to mow a bit more runway as you turned around, giving yourself a slightly longer runway (ahem!) and then do a take off like this. Nice landing, btw. :)
@@SamAllisonPlanespotting Thanks for sharing, but please consider renaming the video from "Terrible Takeoff" to "Short Field Takeoff Technique" or something. Kind of unfair to the crew to call it terrible when it looks like he did a textbook example of the short field : )
Or maybe, only maybe, the pilot want to have a little fun during take off. To my shame, sometimes i do the same in the save way for fun...
Next to no wind, a hump in the runway, accelerate in ground effect, up and away! Perfect take-off!
Please change the title, it makes you look ridiculous
Looked perfect to me 👍😊
@@johnberry5339 That makes you look ridiculous.
@@kurtsvensson4362 Thank you very much kirt xx 💕
@@johnberry5339 No worries.
It wasnt a terrible takeoff, it was a controlled departure method, obtain a V1, take off into level flight then obtaina a Vr speed...
As a commercial pilot myself can you tell me what was wromg with the short field takeoff proceedure he used it looked perfect to me
Building up air speed thats all.
The extra s in sky
Didn’t see anything terrible...CLICK BAIT!
It could have been called terrible if fire was involved.
Spotters saying terrible takeoff is the equivalent of flight simmers judging.
Paolo Gianzanti I'm a flight sim'er and I've flown. See my above comment about a SFTO & CO.
All those brave men and their proud simulators.
Aye, aye, aye, flightsimmers are pilots too. We just don't get motion sickness or vertigo. 😊😂
Smooth takeoff, safely into the air.......I’ll back the pilot.
Nothing wrong with those take-offs at all. Standard procedure for short runways. Gain ground speed,then climb out. Watch the way aircraft used to sink when leaving a carrier deck years ago.
Definitely not.
Holding the nose wheel up before the plane is ready to lift off increases drag and lengthens the takeoff roll.
The only time it doesn’t is on soft fields like grass or gravel where the drag of the nose wheel and weight on the main wheels is higher than the airframe drag.
No if you want to have a short takeoff roll on a hard surface you
hold the brakes, set takeoff power, release the brakes, and do a normal rotation.
I was waiting for the terrible takeoff, it didn't happen 🤷♂️ Looks like a non-pilot comment.
Secret Sauce I was made to practice, BOTH SOFTFELD & MAX ANGLE TAKE OFF IN A C150, eons ago, As there are reasons for BOTH , CHEERS FROM NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I always found the Islander an interesting design. When I was a young pilot I flew Aero Commanders hauling parcels. I didn't see anything wrong in the T/O.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that takeoff. Lands End has a pronounced hump in the middle of the runway, so it may have appeared to you that the aircraft 'settled down' but in actual fact it was just floowing the natural curvature of the ground. Don't slag off experienced professionals who are just doing their routine jobs !
Been on those aircraft a few times. Couple of times from Lands End and once from Exeter. Every flight was perfect coming from a non expert. Had some weather over Dartmoor but handled nicely. Really enjoyed the takeoffs from Scilly Isles.
Rename the video "Short field takeoff" and cut the intro scroll on the vid. These are professional pilots doing a good job. Your title may put off a nervous flyer from using the service. Support local companies, they don't need uneducated click bait! You've already acknowledged the title is incorrect, so edit it.
Looked like good takeoff. Wish I could've been riding along.
Maybe a rotation before Red Line but the aircraft will fly when it's ready anyway. He did not pull the aircraft off the runway instead made a "fly off"
Interesting video, looks like the runway dips slightly?
I couldn't see anything "terrible" about the TO or CO, it was merely a short/soft field TO & CO, maybe as practice on the 'hard' (thus safer) or maybe to impress the photographers?
I once flew from lands end grass runway. Pilot, wife and I and a vicar in the back.To the Scillies
Early rotation, not excessive, results in only a bit more drag. Objective is to be airborne as early as possible and reduce the frictional losses in wheels. Hence, most advantageous if you have larger frictional losses in wheels (grass. water...). If not windy this technique should be ok.
Standard ‘short field’ take off. Stand on the brakes, build up the revs, hard back on the stick and let her go. A good pilot won’t climb (or retract the wheels) until he’s run out of runway. No need to thank me. 🤪
But I will anyway, thanks 👍
Gordon Welch You are right....” no need to thank you” since you are wrong about gear up after take off.
ATOMEK2025 You only retract the wheels when you’re sure you don’t need them any more. i.e. when you’ve run out of runway.
except this was more of a soft field than short field.
positive rate of climb, gear up, that’s what i was taught.
Not a 'terrible take off' at all. Having spent a few years working around Islanders, I've seen this 'fun' take off a few times, and even been on board on one occasion (just me and the pilot). I can tell you the common denominator....no passengers! Usually the Skybus Islander pilots have passengers...but I'd be willing to bet a significant amount that this guy was simply taking advantage of having no passengers, to keep low to the ground after take off, building up some speed in order to carry out an exhilerhating steep climb. Just having a little fun basically, but all within the confines of good airmanship and safety.
Ah Thanks, interesting perspective, I've only flown on one once and as far as I remember the climb with 8 or so passengers was somewhat slow 😂
This is exactly how I used to takeoff from Netherthorpe (short, sloped, often damp grass runway). Absolutely normal takeoff.
As a pilot I can’t see what was wrong with the take offs, the Islander just did a short field take off.
Nothing terrible about that take!! Just a "Click Bait!"title!!
Islander...great aircraft.
First entry in my logbook was in an Islander
I flew islanders for DORADO WINGS back in 1977
Quite an adventure
I image a similar maneuver was taught seventy or so years ago when yanking a fully loaded bomber off the ground risking a tail strike wasn't widely encouraged.
Did I miss the terrible part?
Correct technique for getting a piston pounder of a short or soft runway, well executed.
On a hard surface this technique adds distance it doesn’t subtract it.
@@calvinnickel9995 looks like the driver was in a hurry speed and takeoff fine ...
Goodness, who knew the entire comments section would be exclusively people who “are commercial pilots themselves”
I used to fly the islander, and would take off like that sometimes to mimic how the big jets take off. Sometimes I would land with flaps up so I get a nose up approach like the jets. Made me feel like i was handling the big ones. 😉
I remember visiting Bembridge on the IOW when I was in the scouts and going to the airport where the Islanders and Tri-landers were being built in the 1970s. Lots of them built for export as the aircraft was built for STOL in some of the worse conditions .
Not a terrible takeoff at all, a standard short field/soft field takeoff. You haul it off as soon as possible, accelerate in ground effect and then climb away when the speed is up. We do it frequently from our often soft grass field. Probably not necessary in this case, he might have done it simply to entertain the muppet with the camera.
Looked like the dude was just having fun. Enjoying his job.
Click bait. Nothing wrong with that take off.
There is hump on the runway and using the big lens makes it look odd.
Thanks for clip. The effect is accentuated due to the camera angle and the way the ground falls away at the far end. Granted it was probably nearer MTOW than the other a/c featured!
So which one was the terrible take off ?
Nothing I hate more on TH-cam of ordinary videos trying to be passed off as something unusual with stupid false titles. These two takeoffs were completely routine, smh . . .
Sorry :/ At the time of making the video I was unaware of this technique 🤪 of a soft field takeoff.
From the outside perspective it did look a bit bizarre, weather routine or not :/
@@SamAllisonPlanespotting So change the video title then.
Please rename this, nothing terrible about the take offs, except maybe your knowledge of aeronautics
Thats a perfect short field takeoff, using the ground effect to build up speed to clear obstacles etc.
Any take off that gets me safely into the air is a good one as far as I am concerned as is any landing I can walk away from..You would not want to die in a perfect take off or landing but people have unfortunately!!!
I Think the last one are DHC6 Twin Otter....😁😁😁
Oh dear, another poster who doesn't know what they're talking about. Either that or just clickbait.
also if he was full of parcels, could have had a rear weight bias of some sort, plus no passengers to scare or make barf, if he was at mtow, and had that big gradient on the runway, the aircraft my have just balanced out over the mains and the nose went up due to trim forces, and he let it ride..gradient looks pretty steep on 25 too,..Cool to see what an islander can do if pushed a little in the ground effect, at least for a few seconds till she runs out of momentum..
You know you’ve a nice camera, your footage is great and you’ll probably get just as many views for those two reasons. No need for the false title.
What he did was what us profesional pilots call the worm hole. We do this to make the ladies slightly dizzy before hitting autopilot
It looks like a soft field take off to me remaining in ground effect to get speed and then pull up. If anything, it was a well executed one.
If you ask me, it was a pretty awesome launch by some pilots born with wings.
Ridiculous to call that a terrible take off. The procedure was finessed in a way you don't understand - or was it just click bait? Either way, you do the airline and pilot an injustice!
At the time of making the video I was unaware of this technique 🤪 of a soft field takeoff and I have to agree, now with the knowledge of such a technique, it was executed well. However it still does seem bizzare to execute such a manoeuvre on a hard surfaced runway🤔? I'd be intrigued to know why that technique would be used if you know? 🙂
Ta Sam
@@SamAllisonPlanespotting As a retired pilot, I can tell you that in a twin engine aircraft, I would often remain at fairly level flight after takeoff to build air speed. This is helpful in event of an engine failure. I have flown both the Islander and Twin Otter and have bush, crop spraying, fire bombing, instructing and airline experience. From what I saw in the take off, the pilot may not have been practicing a soft field take off, but simply exercising good airmanship.
@@XRP747E Agreed. In a single engine aircraft, height is your friend. In a twin, it's speed.
@@MajorTom6 Amongst the aircraft I flew, the one where this was most critical was the Canso PBY5A. After water pick-up you were likely to be below VMC which was uncomfortable, so speed build up was essential and slow with a heavy aircraft - thus flight just above the water surface to climb speed was a standard operating procedure.
@@XRP747E That sounds like an awesome job! Enjoy your retirement. I'm a retired pilot too......some days I miss it, some days I don't :-)
That was a pretty cool takeoff military stile, they must be having fun, I dont know what you mean by terrible
Great Pilots' Great Flying! ✈
It was a ground effect take off. Stay low then climb at speed...not terrible
What engines, Detroit diesels??
Pilot with parcels having a bit of fun 😁😉
Just moving the parcels further back to reach his coffee flask.
Perfect soft-field departure. Nothing wrong at all with that !
Thank you. I would be happy to have flown on these flights.
Was there a chance the Islander was at its maximum weight? Must have been a fun take off but as everyone said there was nothing wrong with it. That Twin Otter looked ‘cute’ but sounded powerful.
That's not terrible. It's a pretty normal take off for this aircraft.
Rusty takeoff but a butter landing.
Looks like practicing a Short/Soft Field take off, using ground effect, and then pulling up when speed is built. Nothing wrong with it.
Nothing wrong with reducing induced drag in ground effect lol. Possible check flight and the pilot had to perform/demonstrate soft field takeoff technique to the check pilot.
What was so terrible about it Sam? We’re curious to know what your opinion is.
Perfect take off with a clickbait video title.
Short runway?
I"m assuming this is the airfield at St Just, the only time I went by air from mainland to St Marys was in April 2001 and I"m thinking there was no hard runway and only grass, am i wrong, does anybody know please or is my old brain playing tricks with my memory, thank you
Hi, you're correct I think, I flew from here in 2006 and it was just grass at the time, it's since had 2 of the runways paved 😎
Great take off, you should try it!
Sam, what qualifies YOU to criticise the take-off?
Just had to see the kind of plane that they used in the James Bond Film..........
I was feeling glad for a se ond we can't go this year reading the title. Got to loose weight for the pre flight weigh in anyway... They will ha e to put me on the ferry cargo lol.
What??? Excellent soft field take off!
Excellent landing.
At least they had their official airline pilot uniforms!
Imagine that. Reason may be that they actually wanted a paycheck.
Islander .the loudest plane I've flown in.
Same, they make a fair noise 😂😂
Try a Trislander :) I flown on one twice and frankly, both rides were a hoot.
There is nothing "TERRIBLE"! Perfect take off's and perfect landing. Dear Spotter: look and learn, and do not talk about things you are not familiar with.
What was terrible about that? Perfectly executed take off. Given the load and craft......
Looks like a normal short field takeoff to me.
A normal departure procedure.
Might be the pilot on that Islander who jokingly sits at the back of the plane reading a newspaper without the stripes on his white shirt. The unbeknown passengers board the plane sitting waiting for the pilot to show up, the pilot in disguise as a passenger crumples the newspaper up then checks his watch when the passengers turn round to see what the fuss as he gives the I'm fed up waiting sigh, gets up walks passing the passengers up to the cockpit, sits on the pilot's seat, starts the engines then taxis, takes off as the petrified white knuckle passengers sit in shock. 🤣
Is nobody going to comment about that landing though? Butter!
Sounds like the water pumps in my fish tank
The only thing that is terrible is your understanding of take offs ....
Another spotter who should spend more time playing with his pole.
As a pilot, that was a beautiful takeoff. Terrible title though.
“Terrible” is your knowledge of aviation !!! Get lost !!!
The first plane looked like it was made in art class.
Clearly this guy is practising a soft field take off.
Change title to scaredy cat pilot sees a mouse on the runway and pulls up hard to get away from it.
I was going to comment; but I can't match the brilliance of many of the other comments lodged here!
the terrible in the title is the only terrible.
Apparently, whoever said these takeoffs were terrible, does not know anything about flying.
What was that all about ?
Looks to me like he was purposely gaining ground speed for a very positive climb.
How was it a bad take off ?
Twin Otters were not made to look graceful on take off and landing.
Where was this terrible take off? All seems complete normal.
Is this just click bait? Nothing wrong that I can see
Where are the terrible takeoffs?
Take off is hilarious lol
normal takeoff..where is the problem..? couldnt see it...